Re: [MBZ] Testing apple times
Peter, Thanks for the tips, in honor of earth day I shall spend some time today trying to clean my R220. Dan, Laser printers are dammed hard on DVDs. One of the reasons I got the R220 is because it'll print DVDs. It also works really well with Linux. I want to downsize my desk removing one of the large, obsolete workstations, and move the printer elsewhere. I'm thinking about a raspberry pi as dedicated printer and scanner machine. Maybe build all 3 into a dedicated case in the basement. -Curt Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 07:36:46 -0400 From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Testing apple times Message-ID: 46aec30f-f86d-4b6d-8f89-dfe8400a6...@penoff.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii A better suggestion: get a laser printer. Higher upfront costs, but a lot easier and cheaper to use, IMHO. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing apple times
Point well taken. Have you considered using labels as opposed to printing directly on DVDs? Or how about using the LightScribe stuff? I abandoned ink jets years ago out of concerns over waste and costs. It hasn't created a problem for me yet, but I also don't print stuff in color or print pictures. It's actually cheaper to send pictures to Walgreens and pick them up an hour later. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 21, 2014, at 10:18 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Peter, Thanks for the tips, in honor of earth day I shall spend some time today trying to clean my R220. Dan, Laser printers are dammed hard on DVDs. One of the reasons I got the R220 is because it'll print DVDs. It also works really well with Linux. I want to downsize my desk removing one of the large, obsolete workstations, and move the printer elsewhere. I'm thinking about a raspberry pi as dedicated printer and scanner machine. Maybe build all 3 into a dedicated case in the basement. -Curt Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 07:36:46 -0400 From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Testing apple times Message-ID: 46aec30f-f86d-4b6d-8f89-dfe8400a6...@penoff.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii A better suggestion: get a laser printer. Higher upfront costs, but a lot easier and cheaper to use, IMHO. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing apple times
Dan wrote: It's actually cheaper to send pictures to Walgreens and pick them up an hour later. Cheaper - sure. But that isn't the only measure just like Mercedes parts shouldn't be chosen by price alone. For example, what if you want the print to actually look like what you edited? It's bad enough trying to color calibrate your own printer, but it's pretty much impossible to calibrate to an outsourced printer like one (of many?) at a Walgreens as you have no control over which printer they use or how it could be changing over time. There are some printing services that publish their printer calibrations - but these are few and far between, and certainly not price competitive with Walgreens! If you cared as much for you photo prints as you do you car detailing, you'd never suggest such an thing! *smiles* -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing apple times
Costco used to have calibrations available, and I would be surprised if their prices are not competitive. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Fmiser Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 12:19 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Testing apple times Dan wrote: It's actually cheaper to send pictures to Walgreens and pick them up an hour later. Cheaper - sure. But that isn't the only measure just like Mercedes parts shouldn't be chosen by price alone. For example, what if you want the print to actually look like what you edited? It's bad enough trying to color calibrate your own printer, but it's pretty much impossible to calibrate to an outsourced printer like one (of many?) at a Walgreens as you have no control over which printer they use or how it could be changing over time. There are some printing services that publish their printer calibrations - but these are few and far between, and certainly not price competitive with Walgreens! If you cared as much for you photo prints as you do you car detailing, you'd never suggest such an thing! *smiles* -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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DVDs spin so fast there are loads of cases where the labels spin right off and gum up the insides of a DVD player. If they were only for me I'd do it but not for anything I'd sell. Besides they look cheezy and nearly double my cost for the DVDs I put out. Your cost argument doesn't stand up at this point. Besides which when I went to clean my printer today and discovered I didn't have a full set of new ink I ordered new on Amazon for $6. Epson wants $80 for the same set. I've been using aftermarket ink for 5 or 6 years now, I could buy probably 4 printers on the savings. Although the print software gives dire warnings everytime I put in aftermarket ink its never seemed to matter. The printer quit after I didn't use it for a few months. -Curt Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 10:28:33 -0400 From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Testing apple times Message-ID: a3c4e733-d9cb-4b94-9439-8b8bb4c3d...@penoff.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Point well taken. Have you considered using labels as opposed to printing directly on DVDs? Or how about using the LightScribe stuff? I abandoned ink jets years ago out of concerns over waste and costs. It hasn't created a problem for me yet, but I also don't print stuff in color or print pictures. It's actually cheaper to send pictures to Walgreens and pick them up an hour later. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Sorry I wasn't more specific. If I want something other than vacation snaps quality, the color corrected image file goes to a professional lab. I have a house fll of professionally printed photos, all of them taken form the over 5000 frames of medium format film I've shot over the years. Dan On Apr 21, 2014, at 3:18 PM, Fmiser wrote: Dan wrote: It's actually cheaper to send pictures to Walgreens and pick them up an hour later. Cheaper - sure. But that isn't the only measure just like Mercedes parts shouldn't be chosen by price alone. For example, what if you want the print to actually look like what you edited? It's bad enough trying to color calibrate your own printer, but it's pretty much impossible to calibrate to an outsourced printer like one (of many?) at a Walgreens as you have no control over which printer they use or how it could be changing over time. There are some printing services that publish their printer calibrations - but these are few and far between, and certainly not price competitive with Walgreens! If you cared as much for you photo prints as you do you car detailing, you'd never suggest such an thing! *smiles* -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing apple times
A better suggestion: get a laser printer. Higher upfront costs, but a lot easier and cheaper to use, IMHO. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 20, 2014, at 12:32 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Here are some tips for cleaning Epson printer heads (I've done more than a few, just finished up reviving an old R800 head for use in an R2880). First, the dye inks do NOT dry out in the printer. They become very viscous, but do not dry. Pigment inks do indeed dry down, but are readily resuspended. Second, cleaning cycles are only good for removing air, they will NOT fix plugs, and paradoxically, make things worse by applying a vacuum to the whole head. When the head is moved off the seal, gumming ink results in a vacuum still inside, and air is sucked up from the bottom, preventing the ink from being fired. Third, the clogs from sitting unused are almost always ink collecting on the bottom of the head and plugging the nozzles. You can suck in through the print head forever, and if you don't remove the collected grunge it will not print. It DOES drip ink all over, but the droplets will not fire onto the paper. To clean one in this condition: Install cartridges filled with ink -- aftermarkets with third party ink is a best choice, you may use quite a bit and Epson cartridges are expensive for cleaning. If you want, once you get it cleared out you can switch back. Turn the printer on and press the ink cartridge button. Once the carriage parks in the cartridge replacement station, unplug the printer WITHOUT turning it off. This leaves the carriage free to move by hand. Fold a paper towel to fit in the channel the printhead travels in over the paper. It needs to be thick enough to actually touch the prinheatd but thin enough to push the printhead over. Saturate the paper towel with Windex or other spray glass cleaner. I'm not sure I would use 409, it might be too strong. Lay the towel in the channel and wipe the printhead over it. Likely it will instantly turn black with gummy ink. Remove the towel and replace with a fresh one, adjusting thickness as necessary to gently wipe the bottom of the printhead until you get obvious traces of the correct ink colors. Get a spray bottle of windex or other glass cleaner and carefully fill the sponge and seal of the cartridge cappping station. Use a dry paper towel to blot up the dissolved ink until the station is mostly clean. Wipe down the rubber seal, make sure it is not gummy with dried ink. Fill the sponge in the capping station with Windex and push the carriage over it. Briefly plug the printer in until the carriage drops onto the seal and unplug it again. You don't want the pump to suck the Windex out, you want to soak the bottom of the head. Leave it at least a couple hours. Overnight is better. Next day plug the printer in and turn it on. It should do a quick cleaning cycle. Print a nozzle check. If you are really lucky, you will get at least most of the nozzles firing. Ignore the fact that the ink colors are likely wrong, you have been mixing the ink with cleaner and it will wick up into the nozzle chambers randomly. If you have a decent number of clear nozzles, print a purge page (marruttusa.com has a selection). By the end of the page, you should be able to tell if you have decent ink flow or not. Drips of ink onto the page means you have Windex in the nozzles, it causes ink to leak. This is not a big issue a this point. Print another nozzle check. Should be better. If not, do a clean cycle but unplug the printer when the wiper blade is up -- it's beside the capping station, watch for the printer to flip it up to wipe the printhead. Crap built up on the wiper simply plugs the nozzles by wiping gummy dried ink into them, hardly a way to clear them. Wipe it down with windex, make sure it's quite clean. Plug it back in and do one clean cycle, then print a nozzle check. With some luck, a dye printer will be working pretty well by now. Pigment printers require more work, usually. If a couple cycles of soaking and printing purge pages doesn't do the trick, you will have to find some syringes and plastic tubing that will fit over the spikes the cartridges connect to on the printhead. push the ink button and unplug the printer when the carriage is free. Remove the cartridges, and fold up a dry paper towel to fit under the printhead. Heat some windex in the microwave -- you can add some glycerin if you have it to raise the viscocity, it helps later -- and fill a syringe with the hot windex and attach some tubing to allow you to connect to the spike. Push the tubing over the spike for whatever color isn't working right, and move the carriage over the dry paper towel. GENTLY press on the syringe plunger to force hot windex through the printhead. If it won't move under gentle
Re: [MBZ] Testing apple times
You wouldn't make that suggestion if you compared color photographs printed on the two machines. You will be very frustrated if you use an Epson photo printer for plain text, though. It will look perfect, but the ink is expensive and you will have trouble with the color when you do print photographs. For plain text, I recommend a laser or Cannon/HP printer with pigment black ink. Less expensive and less maintenance. Nothing beats one of the Epson printers for photographs though, especially the Claria II dye printers on glossy paper. Not maintenance free though. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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A better suggestion: get a laser printer. That's how we ended up with the Phaser printer. So far, so good. All our BW printing is on HP laser printers. It's the color that is problematic. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing apple times
I had a Minolta color laser printer that did a good job, but color laser is not ideal for photos. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 20, 2014, at 8:44 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: A better suggestion: get a laser printer. That's how we ended up with the Phaser printer. So far, so good. All our BW printing is on HP laser printers. It's the color that is problematic. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing apple times
Hmm, I wonder if I can clean the print head on my Epson that way. I've been buying aftermarket ink off Amazon and after sitting a year or so it now refuses to print some of the colors. I ran so many cleaning cycles it ran out the cartridges and I got fed up. There are times when it'd be nice to have a working printer... -Curt Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2014 11:46:59 +0930 From: Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Testing apple times Message-ID: 5351dc9b.6010...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Ha ha +1 for that one. Wonder how they feel about me buying a screen for an iphoney off ebay Speaking of printers, the other day I had job that involved taking a load of stuff to the rubbish dump. In amongst all the crap was a HP printer, which looked OK so I took it home. Fired it up and all the lights where on but the paper was not feeding properly, so I pulled it apart and some kid must dropped a safety pin in there. Right O now the paper was feeding properly but nothing was being printed, hmmn me thinks, the cartridges must have dried out, a quick search indicates that standing them in hot water may clean em out. So I give that a whirl and sure enough we have printing but it's still not 100% but I am just keeping it as a spare for now. Hendrik who hates to throw stuff out unless it is totally beyond any use whatsoever ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing apple times
Here are some tips for cleaning Epson printer heads (I've done more than a few, just finished up reviving an old R800 head for use in an R2880). First, the dye inks do NOT dry out in the printer. They become very viscous, but do not dry. Pigment inks do indeed dry down, but are readily resuspended. Second, cleaning cycles are only good for removing air, they will NOT fix plugs, and paradoxically, make things worse by applying a vacuum to the whole head. When the head is moved off the seal, gumming ink results in a vacuum still inside, and air is sucked up from the bottom, preventing the ink from being fired. Third, the clogs from sitting unused are almost always ink collecting on the bottom of the head and plugging the nozzles. You can suck in through the print head forever, and if you don't remove the collected grunge it will not print. It DOES drip ink all over, but the droplets will not fire onto the paper. To clean one in this condition: Install cartridges filled with ink -- aftermarkets with third party ink is a best choice, you may use quite a bit and Epson cartridges are expensive for cleaning. If you want, once you get it cleared out you can switch back. Turn the printer on and press the ink cartridge button. Once the carriage parks in the cartridge replacement station, unplug the printer WITHOUT turning it off. This leaves the carriage free to move by hand. Fold a paper towel to fit in the channel the printhead travels in over the paper. It needs to be thick enough to actually touch the prinheatd but thin enough to push the printhead over. Saturate the paper towel with Windex or other spray glass cleaner. I'm not sure I would use 409, it might be too strong. Lay the towel in the channel and wipe the printhead over it. Likely it will instantly turn black with gummy ink. Remove the towel and replace with a fresh one, adjusting thickness as necessary to gently wipe the bottom of the printhead until you get obvious traces of the correct ink colors. Get a spray bottle of windex or other glass cleaner and carefully fill the sponge and seal of the cartridge cappping station. Use a dry paper towel to blot up the dissolved ink until the station is mostly clean. Wipe down the rubber seal, make sure it is not gummy with dried ink. Fill the sponge in the capping station with Windex and push the carriage over it. Briefly plug the printer in until the carriage drops onto the seal and unplug it again. You don't want the pump to suck the Windex out, you want to soak the bottom of the head. Leave it at least a couple hours. Overnight is better. Next day plug the printer in and turn it on. It should do a quick cleaning cycle. Print a nozzle check. If you are really lucky, you will get at least most of the nozzles firing. Ignore the fact that the ink colors are likely wrong, you have been mixing the ink with cleaner and it will wick up into the nozzle chambers randomly. If you have a decent number of clear nozzles, print a purge page (marruttusa.com has a selection). By the end of the page, you should be able to tell if you have decent ink flow or not. Drips of ink onto the page means you have Windex in the nozzles, it causes ink to leak. This is not a big issue a this point. Print another nozzle check. Should be better. If not, do a clean cycle but unplug the printer when the wiper blade is up -- it's beside the capping station, watch for the printer to flip it up to wipe the printhead. Crap built up on the wiper simply plugs the nozzles by wiping gummy dried ink into them, hardly a way to clear them. Wipe it down with windex, make sure it's quite clean. Plug it back in and do one clean cycle, then print a nozzle check. With some luck, a dye printer will be working pretty well by now. Pigment printers require more work, usually. If a couple cycles of soaking and printing purge pages doesn't do the trick, you will have to find some syringes and plastic tubing that will fit over the spikes the cartridges connect to on the printhead. push the ink button and unplug the printer when the carriage is free. Remove the cartridges, and fold up a dry paper towel to fit under the printhead. Heat some windex in the microwave -- you can add some glycerin if you have it to raise the viscocity, it helps later -- and fill a syringe with the hot windex and attach some tubing to allow you to connect to the spike. Push the tubing over the spike for whatever color isn't working right, and move the carriage over the dry paper towel. GENTLY press on the syringe plunger to force hot windex through the printhead. If it won't move under gentle pressure, pull back on the syringe to suck the gummy ink up out of the printhead. Don't pull too hard, you don't want to blow any seals. You may have to repeat the pull, release, press, release, pull, etc
Re: [MBZ] Testing apple times
Ha ha +1 for that one. Wonder how they feel about me buying a screen for an iphoney off ebay Speaking of printers, the other day I had job that involved taking a load of stuff to the rubbish dump. In amongst all the crap was a HP printer, which looked OK so I took it home. Fired it up and all the lights where on but the paper was not feeding properly, so I pulled it apart and some kid must dropped a safety pin in there. Right O now the paper was feeding properly but nothing was being printed, hmmn me thinks, the cartridges must have dried out, a quick search indicates that standing them in hot water may clean em out. So I give that a whirl and sure enough we have printing but it's still not 100% but I am just keeping it as a spare for now. Hendrik who hates to throw stuff out unless it is totally beyond any use whatsoever On 19/04/14 09:19, OK Don wrote: If you didn't buy it at the apple store, you are supposed to use it. :-) On Friday, April 18, 2014, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Hey speaking of Apple, how to I find a compatible printer driver for a Canon Pixma MP 780? The computer does NOT recognixe this when I connect it to my IMac. :(( ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
