Re: [MBZ] The Supersucker
It depends on what you have lying around your shop/garage. Roll of screen wire wouldn't be unusual for a do-it-yourselfer. The roofing valley might be less common although some of us have that also. Saplings are usually free. Of course, if you didn't have a plastic bucket on hand, you would have to buy one from Home Depot; price: $5.00. I think the metal cans were about $10.00, so that would be considerably more. Gerry - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] This sounds like it would cost way more than $2. Maybe $3 or4. --R archer wrote: During the hurricane season last year Home Depot sold old fashioned five gallon steel buckets with a fixed screw capped spout and a center cap. They may still sell them. I doubt they would collapse using a vacuum cleaner. The one I bought had a leak which I had to solder, but all may not leak. If you live near woods you might find a green sapling branch or trunk you can bend enough to stick down in the bucket. Once inside you can put wire ties around it so it will retain its circumference. Or a cheap ten foot or longer plumbers snake like Home Depot sells could be wound inside it and secured with wire ties. Either the snake or the sapling, positioned in the middle of the plastic bucket, might keep it from collapsing. Another solution might be to buy a roll of roofing valley and let it unroll inside the plastic bucket. It might be a good idea to drape several wire ties around the edge of the bucket before turning the roll of valley loose. Then you can tie them tight to keep the slick, oily valley from trying to roll back up. A couple of layers of screen wire tied over the inlet hose should reduce splashing. Stick a small piece of metal tubing the same o.d. as the hoses i.d. in the end of the inlet hose, loosely wrap the screen wire over the end of the hose, and clamp it on tight over the metal tubing with a hose clamp. Good luck, Gerry Archer '83 300D and 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/458 - Release Date: 9/27/2006
Re: [MBZ] The Supersucker
On Sep 30, 2006, at 8:16 AM, Lee Einer wrote: I made a supersucker using my 6 horsepower shop vac. It supersucked. Not in a nice way. The plastic buckets tended to buckle and collapse, which also caused the lid to bend, warp and split. The contorted bucket tended to splash the waste oil back up towards the vacuum nozzle, resulting in a bunch of the oil being sucked into the shop vac. I went through three buckets in the process of changing my oil, as well as making a complete mess. So, any advice on how to keep the buckets from collapsing? I am thinking about putting one bucket inside the other for added structural strength. A source for more durable buckets would also be welcomed. Lee - During the hurricane season last year Home Depot sold old fashioned five gallon steel buckets with a fixed screw capped spout and a center cap. They may still sell them. I doubt they would collapse using a vacuum cleaner. The one I bought had a leak which I had to solder, but all may not leak. If you live near woods you might find a green sapling branch or trunk you can bend enough to stick down in the bucket. Once inside you can put wire ties around it so it will retain its circumference. Or a cheap ten foot or longer plumbers snake like Home Depot sells could be wound inside it and secured with wire ties. Either the snake or the sapling, positioned in the middle of the plastic bucket, might keep it from collapsing. Another solution might be to buy a roll of roofing valley and let it unroll inside the plastic bucket. It might be a good idea to drape several wire ties around the edge of the bucket before turning the roll of valley loose. Then you can tie them tight to keep the slick, oily valley from trying to roll back up. A couple of layers of screen wire tied over the inlet hose should reduce splashing. Stick a small piece of metal tubing the same o.d. as the hoses i.d. in the end of the inlet hose, loosely wrap the screen wire over the end of the hose, and clamp it on tight over the metal tubing with a hose clamp. Good luck, Gerry Archer '83 300D and 240D
Re: [MBZ] The Supersucker
Lee Einer wrote: So, any advice on how to keep the buckets from collapsing? I think you're pulling a harder vacuum than is really necessary. You might create a controllable leak somehow to bleed in some air. A 6 hp shop vac is pretty powerful. It doesn't take nearly as much suction as you'd imagine. The commercial, hand-pumped Topsider I have uses a steel 5-gallon gasoline can, the domed kind. The dome makes it very strong as long as you don't lean on it while vacuum is applied (which risks causing the dome to snap through.)
Re: [MBZ] The Supersucker
This sounds like it would cost way more than $2. Maybe $3 or4. --R archer wrote: During the hurricane season last year Home Depot sold old fashioned five gallon steel buckets with a fixed screw capped spout and a center cap. They may still sell them. I doubt they would collapse using a vacuum cleaner. The one I bought had a leak which I had to solder, but all may not leak. If you live near woods you might find a green sapling branch or trunk you can bend enough to stick down in the bucket. Once inside you can put wire ties around it so it will retain its circumference. Or a cheap ten foot or longer plumbers snake like Home Depot sells could be wound inside it and secured with wire ties. Either the snake or the sapling, positioned in the middle of the plastic bucket, might keep it from collapsing. Another solution might be to buy a roll of roofing valley and let it unroll inside the plastic bucket. It might be a good idea to drape several wire ties around the edge of the bucket before turning the roll of valley loose. Then you can tie them tight to keep the slick, oily valley from trying to roll back up. A couple of layers of screen wire tied over the inlet hose should reduce splashing. Stick a small piece of metal tubing the same o.d. as the hoses i.d. in the end of the inlet hose, loosely wrap the screen wire over the end of the hose, and clamp it on tight over the metal tubing with a hose clamp. Good luck, Gerry Archer '83 300D and 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Supersucker
Lee, use a smaller vacuum so the pull is less and doesn't suck the bucket in. DWS Lee Einer wrote: I made a supersucker using my 6 horsepower shop vac. It supersucked. Not in a nice way. The plastic buckets tended to buckle and collapse, which also caused the lid to bend, warp and split. The contorted bucket tended to splash the waste oil back up towards the vacuum nozzle, resulting in a bunch of the oil being sucked into the shop vac. I went through three buckets in the process of changing my oil, as well as making a complete mess. So, any advice on how to keep the buckets from collapsing? I am thinking about putting one bucket inside the other for added structural strength. A source for more durable buckets would also be welcomed. Lee ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Supersucker
I haven't done it yet, but I only have easy access to empty detergent buckets, and they aren't very strong. I'm planning to make a cross brace out of small PVC pipe and a cross or X fitting to wedge near the center inside the bucket, hoping that it will provide enough support to keep the sides from collapsing. After reading about your top breaking, perhaps a vertical tube to support the top is in order as well. Remember, I have not tried this yet --- So, any advice on how to keep the buckets from collapsing? I am thinking about putting one bucket inside the other for added structural strength. A source for more durable buckets would also be welcomed. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] The Supersucker
Get an old helium tank or propane tank (but be very careful with the propane tank -- residual vapors, fill it with water if you go drilling on it) and use that for your reservoir. I use both my big shop vac and a smaller one, they both pull enough that the oil can be sucked out in one beer. I use a plastic gas can, it gets sucked up but no oil leaves it. A visual indication of the sucker at work. --R Lee Einer wrote: I made a supersucker using my 6 horsepower shop vac. It supersucked. Not in a nice way. The plastic buckets tended to buckle and collapse, which also caused the lid to bend, warp and split. The contorted bucket tended to splash the waste oil back up towards the vacuum nozzle, resulting in a bunch of the oil being sucked into the shop vac. I went through three buckets in the process of changing my oil, as well as making a complete mess. So, any advice on how to keep the buckets from collapsing? I am thinking about putting one bucket inside the other for added structural strength. A source for more durable buckets would also be welcomed. Lee ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Supersucker
There is a doohickee for sanding sheet rock at the local big box hardware shop. Supposed to be a dustless thing. Uses a 5 gallon bucket and smaller diameter vacuum cleaner hose to a perforated handle you clamp the sanding screen on. Hook the one hose to the sander block, the other hose goes to your vacuum. Many adapters for if you use large shop vac or house vac. ANYWAY, the shop vac side has a coupling with an adjustable neck throttle. Open it more to reduce the amount of suck, shut down for more suck. Makes a hellacious noise. It does keep the hoses and bucket from collapsing in. Maybe you need to make a coupling with a hole drilled in large enough to back down the vacuum. On Sep 30, 2006, at 8:16 AM, Lee Einer wrote: I made a supersucker using my 6 horsepower shop vac. It supersucked. Not in a nice way. The plastic buckets tended to buckle and collapse, which also caused the lid to bend, warp and split. The contorted bucket tended to splash the waste oil back up towards the vacuum nozzle, resulting in a bunch of the oil being sucked into the shop vac. I went through three buckets in the process of changing my oil, as well as making a complete mess. So, any advice on how to keep the buckets from collapsing? I am thinking about putting one bucket inside the other for added structural strength. A source for more durable buckets would also be welcomed. Lee ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
