Re: [MBZ] Tiny Houses
B.O.A.T. Bring Out Another Thousand. Boat living isn't a move to the economy side of the world. All the comforts of a small apartment, with all the maintenance of a large estate house, with special pricing for all the boat parts because they are boat and special. Add dock fees, shore power fees, sewer connection fees, [all at premium price], then add haul out and dry dock fees to scrape the hull, refurbish the [insert anything on the boat the dry dock folks find that needs fixed while it's out of the water] and you could live in a large estate with a circle drive and servants for less. Then, with a boat, where do you park your car? Work on your car/s? Bad weather? Winter? All that boat needs protection. Storm? Hope you have insurance that covers acts of God. If you really love the water and boats, cost and inconvenience is no object. If you don't have that level of intensity for the life, or lose it while owning a boat, it becomes inconvenient. Very inconvenient. Purus the boats for sale ads and you will find many fine boats for sale by owner that are living testimony of that syndrome. BTDT, cured. If it floats, rent it. Grant... On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 10:40 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A bit different but similar. I watched a youtube video a couple of nights back of a guy who lived in a 27 foot sailboat in the Ala Wai harbour in Honolulu for 15 years before he retired and went cruising. He wanted a 40 foot boat but felt he could not afford it. He was convinced to buy the smaller boat and learned to live with it. He ultimately married and the 2 of them live on the boat. They have subsequently cruised it to San Francisco and to Alaska, and probably other places but those are ones I recall. They talk about how they had to adapt to having very few possessions etc. I found it interesting. I love boats but have not plans to sail the oceans of the world. I wouldn't mind living on a boat in Honolulu but I might never leave the dock. RB I have a shyster friend who lived on a boat in Tampa for years. It may have been 15. I never ventured to that part of the world while he was there. Went to FL on a biz trip , and went to dizzyworld when it was fresh, and saw enough desert and old people, that I never wanted to go back. I often wanted to live on a boat in my years in HI. The high real estate prices were killer. But living on a boat at Ali Wai kinda defeats the purpose. THat is high rent all the way. I just wanted somewhere I could tie up the boat without it being bashed on rocks. I could not afford a boat because all my money went for rent. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Tiny Houses
A big hole in the water you pour money into. We lived on Lake Michigan when we were in Wisconsin. The town had a nice marina where lots of FIBs kept their boats, along with a few locals. The season was roughly April to October. Great Lakes Marine, a local boating place in nearby Cedarburg, kept a crane on the docks two months out of the year to put in and lift out the boats, after which they would be transported to their yard via lowboy trailer for storage. Some neighbors had boats in the marina. One couple told us they spent many thousands of dollars a year with the upkeep, slip fees, repairs, storage, etc. Ironically, the wife would get violently seasick whenever they went out, so she would have to stay below the whole time. They rarely left the slip. The boat was like a summer cottage where they went for the weekend, to socialize with their fellow boaters. From the horror stories I used to hear from the marine generator people, I’m not sure which is worse - RVs or boats. At least you could use your RV year round… One thing I often heard from the marine guys was that sailboaters were the worst, as since the wind was free, they thought everything else should be, too. Merry Christmas everyone. May you be safe, you and your families well, and your garages be full (of MBs, of course!) Dan On Dec 25, 2014, at 11:05 AM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: B.O.A.T. Bring Out Another Thousand. Boat living isn't a move to the economy side of the world. All the comforts of a small apartment, with all the maintenance of a large estate house, with special pricing for all the boat parts because they are boat and special. Add dock fees, shore power fees, sewer connection fees, [all at premium price], then add haul out and dry dock fees to scrape the hull, refurbish the [insert anything on the boat the dry dock folks find that needs fixed while it's out of the water] and you could live in a large estate with a circle drive and servants for less. Then, with a boat, where do you park your car? Work on your car/s? Bad weather? Winter? All that boat needs protection. Storm? Hope you have insurance that covers acts of God. If you really love the water and boats, cost and inconvenience is no object. If you don't have that level of intensity for the life, or lose it while owning a boat, it becomes inconvenient. Very inconvenient. Purus the boats for sale ads and you will find many fine boats for sale by owner that are living testimony of that syndrome. BTDT, cured. If it floats, rent it. Grant... On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 10:40 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A bit different but similar. I watched a youtube video a couple of nights back of a guy who lived in a 27 foot sailboat in the Ala Wai harbour in Honolulu for 15 years before he retired and went cruising. He wanted a 40 foot boat but felt he could not afford it. He was convinced to buy the smaller boat and learned to live with it. He ultimately married and the 2 of them live on the boat. They have subsequently cruised it to San Francisco and to Alaska, and probably other places but those are ones I recall. They talk about how they had to adapt to having very few possessions etc. I found it interesting. I love boats but have not plans to sail the oceans of the world. I wouldn't mind living on a boat in Honolulu but I might never leave the dock. RB I have a shyster friend who lived on a boat in Tampa for years. It may have been 15. I never ventured to that part of the world while he was there. Went to FL on a biz trip , and went to dizzyworld when it was fresh, and saw enough desert and old people, that I never wanted to go back. I often wanted to live on a boat in my years in HI. The high real estate prices were killer. But living on a boat at Ali Wai kinda defeats the purpose. THat is high rent all the way. I just wanted somewhere I could tie up the boat without it being bashed on rocks. I could not afford a boat because all my money went for rent. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over
Re: [MBZ] Tiny Houses
And if you buy a good piece of real estate it will appreciate in value and resist recessions and real estate market crashes. I have never bought a piece of property that is worth less than I payed. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 25, 2014, at 11:05 AM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: B.O.A.T. Bring Out Another Thousand. Boat living isn't a move to the economy side of the world. All the comforts of a small apartment, with all the maintenance of a large estate house, with special pricing for all the boat parts because they are boat and special. Add dock fees, shore power fees, sewer connection fees, [all at premium price], then add haul out and dry dock fees to scrape the hull, refurbish the [insert anything on the boat the dry dock folks find that needs fixed while it's out of the water] and you could live in a large estate with a circle drive and servants for less. Then, with a boat, where do you park your car? Work on your car/s? Bad weather? Winter? All that boat needs protection. Storm? Hope you have insurance that covers acts of God. If you really love the water and boats, cost and inconvenience is no object. If you don't have that level of intensity for the life, or lose it while owning a boat, it becomes inconvenient. Very inconvenient. Purus the boats for sale ads and you will find many fine boats for sale by owner that are living testimony of that syndrome. BTDT, cured. If it floats, rent it. Grant... On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 10:40 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A bit different but similar. I watched a youtube video a couple of nights back of a guy who lived in a 27 foot sailboat in the Ala Wai harbour in Honolulu for 15 years before he retired and went cruising. He wanted a 40 foot boat but felt he could not afford it. He was convinced to buy the smaller boat and learned to live with it. He ultimately married and the 2 of them live on the boat. They have subsequently cruised it to San Francisco and to Alaska, and probably other places but those are ones I recall. They talk about how they had to adapt to having very few possessions etc. I found it interesting. I love boats but have not plans to sail the oceans of the world. I wouldn't mind living on a boat in Honolulu but I might never leave the dock. RB I have a shyster friend who lived on a boat in Tampa for years. It may have been 15. I never ventured to that part of the world while he was there. Went to FL on a biz trip , and went to dizzyworld when it was fresh, and saw enough desert and old people, that I never wanted to go back. I often wanted to live on a boat in my years in HI. The high real estate prices were killer. But living on a boat at Ali Wai kinda defeats the purpose. THat is high rent all the way. I just wanted somewhere I could tie up the boat without it being bashed on rocks. I could not afford a boat because all my money went for rent. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Tiny Houses
A bit different but similar. I watched a youtube video a couple of nights back of a guy who lived in a 27 foot sailboat in the Ala Wai harbour in Honolulu for 15 years before he retired and went cruising. He wanted a 40 foot boat but felt he could not afford it. He was convinced to buy the smaller boat and learned to live with it. He ultimately married and the 2 of them live on the boat. They have subsequently cruised it to San Francisco and to Alaska, and probably other places but those are ones I recall. They talk about how they had to adapt to having very few possessions etc. I found it interesting. I love boats but have not plans to sail the oceans of the world. I wouldn't mind living on a boat in Honolulu but I might never leave the dock. RB On 23/12/2014 6:51 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Nope but I've watched some of the tiny house stuff on YouTube. I'm interested but it requires a certain lifestyle. I could move to camp and live in 504sqft, our first apartment was only like 650, but life at camp is very different from life at home. -Curt From: Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties Has anyone watched - Tiny House Nation ? I see it is showing at hulu but have not watched it. People living in really small - i.e. 207 s.f. - space. Anyone? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Tiny Houses
A bit different but similar. I watched a youtube video a couple of nights back of a guy who lived in a 27 foot sailboat in the Ala Wai harbour in Honolulu for 15 years before he retired and went cruising. He wanted a 40 foot boat but felt he could not afford it. He was convinced to buy the smaller boat and learned to live with it. He ultimately married and the 2 of them live on the boat. They have subsequently cruised it to San Francisco and to Alaska, and probably other places but those are ones I recall. They talk about how they had to adapt to having very few possessions etc. I found it interesting. I love boats but have not plans to sail the oceans of the world. I wouldn't mind living on a boat in Honolulu but I might never leave the dock. RB I have a shyster friend who lived on a boat in Tampa for years. It may have been 15. I never ventured to that part of the world while he was there. Went to FL on a biz trip , and went to dizzyworld when it was fresh, and saw enough desert and old people, that I never wanted to go back. I often wanted to live on a boat in my years in HI. The high real estate prices were killer. But living on a boat at Ali Wai kinda defeats the purpose. THat is high rent all the way. I just wanted somewhere I could tie up the boat without it being bashed on rocks. I could not afford a boat because all my money went for rent. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
