Re: [MBZ] Uh oh, no start 240D
rumor has it that Curt wrote: The problem is about an hour after coming back from that ride we were going out again and Hammie wouldn't start. I could he a click other than the key and nothing happened. If this is an automatic, the very first thing to do is to check neutral safety switch. Make sure you're not trying to start in in gear, then try both Park and Neutral, then wiggle the shifter lever in both positions. I would also turn on some light (interior, headlight - something you can see from the drivers seat) and then turn the key to start. If the light dims out, your battery is dead. If not, continue with the trouble shooting process. Also, the older starters sometimes need a good hammer thump on the solonoid. A rubber mallet (also known as a Dr. Booth lug wrench enhancer) works quite well. I've also use pipes, firewood, a monkey wrench, and a 2x6. *grin* Changing the starter is too much work to do if it isn't really necessary Philip, lazy mechanic
Re: [MBZ] Uh oh, no start 240D
I personally love that I can open hood on most Mercedes and jumper the starter of fender. I have done this numerous times because of bad safety switches, ign switch, and just being lazy and not wanting to reach through window of car to start engine. I have also used the hammer/wood on starter numerous times myself. Once on my 300SD my wife called me because the car would not start, she said key would not turn to start position. Figured it was bad ign. switch, so I went to pick it up. So before I jumper the starter I got in the car, put the car in park and started it up. I got a few chuckles out of that one. I worked at an automotive shop for a few years in college and was amazed at how many cars stalled on the road and were towed in for no-starts because owner never put car in neutral or park. Oh heck lets tell another story. While me and my wife were dating she shows up one Sunday at my place and says her Honda is smoking real bad. So I ask her what she did to the car, she said Well my dad added some oil to it. Yeap he did, he noticed it leaked a little on his driveway so he added 2-3 quarts of oil. I drained the extra oil out the car magically stopped smoking. Ok one more. I was on the highway one day and stopped for some fuel. There were three older women in a suburban there at gas station who were about 200 miles from home and the thing would not start. So I asked if I could help and they said sure. Sure enough the starter would not engage. I asked if they had enough gas to get home and they said they did, so I put car in park with e-brake on, crawled under car and bypassed starter solenoid with pocket knife. The beast started and they when on home. Note that if you love your pocket knife, don't do this unless it is an emergency. The high current arc really burns a hole in the knife. Regards, Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fmiser Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 2:28 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Uh oh, no start 240D rumor has it that Curt wrote: The problem is about an hour after coming back from that ride we were going out again and Hammie wouldn't start. I could he a click other than the key and nothing happened. If this is an automatic, the very first thing to do is to check neutral safety switch. Make sure you're not trying to start in in gear, then try both Park and Neutral, then wiggle the shifter lever in both positions. I would also turn on some light (interior, headlight - something you can see from the drivers seat) and then turn the key to start. If the light dims out, your battery is dead. If not, continue with the trouble shooting process. Also, the older starters sometimes need a good hammer thump on the solonoid. A rubber mallet (also known as a Dr. Booth lug wrench enhancer) works quite well. I've also use pipes, firewood, a monkey wrench, and a 2x6. *grin* Changing the starter is too much work to do if it isn't really necessary Philip, lazy mechanic ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Uh oh, no start 240D
Its a manual and Sunday morning it fired right up. Put an order in to Rusty online last night. -Curt '83 240D Hammie 244kmi Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 01:27:38 -0500 From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Uh oh, no start 240D To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII rumor has it that Curt wrote: The problem is about an hour after coming back from that ride we were going out again and Hammie wouldn't start. I could he a click other than the key and nothing happened. If this is an automatic, the very first thing to do is to check neutral safety switch. Make sure you're not trying to start in in gear, then try both Park and Neutral, then wiggle the shifter lever in both positions. I would also turn on some light (interior, headlight - something you can see from the drivers seat) and then turn the key to start. If the light dims out, your battery is dead. If not, continue with the trouble shooting process. Also, the older starters sometimes need a good hammer thump on the solonoid. A rubber mallet (also known as a Dr. Booth lug wrench enhancer) works quite well. I've also use pipes, firewood, a monkey wrench, and a 2x6. *grin* Changing the starter is too much work to do if it isn't really necessary Philip, lazy mechanic __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] Uh oh, no start 240D
Its a manual and Sunday morning it fired right up. Put an order in to Rusty online last night. -Curt '83 240D Hammie 244km Did Mercedes ever use a clutch pedal starter safety switch? Russ H.
Re: [MBZ] Uh oh, no start 240D
Starter on a 240D can be done easily from the top. I watched my brother-in-law do it three times in one month on my '77 240D. [Do NOT buy the replacement starter from ORiley's! -- get it from Rusty!!!] On 9/10/05, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So today I put 3 cans of diesel purge in Hammie's tank to finally prove to myself he needed injectors. I know I know, but I really didn't have time to run them through properly and I still had 5 cans from the time I ordered 2 cans and WorldPac accidentally shipped 2 cases. The diesel purge experiement proved my hypothesis, the engine is much smoother and less smokey after even a short ride. The problem is about an hour after coming back from that ride we were going out again and Hammie wouldn't start. I could he a click other than the key and nothing happened. I presume theres a relay between the keyswitch and the starter solenoid? About a week ago I had an instance where I turned the key and there was maybe a 1/2 second delay before the engine cranked but it did crank. I'll try starting again tomorrow. If it starts cold but not hot thats pretty conclusively the starter solenoid right? Replace the starter. This is pretty easy on a 240D I'd guess. Figure on needing to put it up on stands? I did the starter on my '96 Dodge Dakota a couple years ago, but its alot easier to get at that starter from underneith. -Curt '83 240D Hammie 244kmi __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
