Re: [MBZ] engine search
As far as I know, all the 917 turbo short blocks were the same with the exception of something on the flywheel of the 85 model. You could probably verify this using the online parts site. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of G Mann Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 7:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] engine search What physical difference is there between the sedan short block [crank, rods, pistons, block, cam chain drive/Injection pump drive] and the TD short block ? Other than the drive for leveling pump on the head aren't the bottom end of the engines the same? Assuming the head from your thrown rod engine can be returned to service, seems to me, using the short block [lower end] from a sedan version would widen the field quite a lot to find a serviceable engine. On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 1:51 PM, G. M. Brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: Re: My search for a 617.952 engine (not CA version) for my '85 300TD Anyone on our list have any experience(s) with Accurate Auto Parts in Monroe, LA? Note: I've realized one thing which may be making this search a problem, other than bein' on the lookout for the sleazeball scammers out there, if I've got my facts correct M-B imported the 300TD Turbodiesel in '84 '85 to the USA and, according to the Nitske book, the production numbers for '84 were 4,739 and for '85 were 3,713 and I don't think all these were imported to the USA. so there probably aren't many examples available. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] engine search
Make that 617 turbo short blocks As far as I know, all the 917 turbo short blocks were the same with the exception of something on the flywheel of the 85 model. You could probably verify this using the online parts site. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of G Mann Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 7:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] engine search What physical difference is there between the sedan short block [crank, rods, pistons, block, cam chain drive/Injection pump drive] and the TD short block ? Other than the drive for leveling pump on the head aren't the bottom end of the engines the same? Assuming the head from your thrown rod engine can be returned to service, seems to me, using the short block [lower end] from a sedan version would widen the field quite a lot to find a serviceable engine. On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 1:51 PM, G. M. Brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: Re: My search for a 617.952 engine (not CA version) for my '85 300TD Anyone on our list have any experience(s) with Accurate Auto Parts in Monroe, LA? Note: I've realized one thing which may be making this search a problem, other than bein' on the lookout for the sleazeball scammers out there, if I've got my facts correct M-B imported the 300TD Turbodiesel in '84 '85 to the USA and, according to the Nitske book, the production numbers for '84 were 4,739 and for '85 were 3,713 and I don't think all these were imported to the USA. so there probably aren't many examples available. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] engine search
The centering bore in the end of the crankshaft is larger in the '85 to match the larger centering nub in the torque converter, IIRC. On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Make that 617 turbo short blocks As far as I know, all the 917 turbo short blocks were the same with the exception of something on the flywheel of the 85 model. You could probably verify this using the online parts site. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of G Mann Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 7:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] engine search What physical difference is there between the sedan short block [crank, rods, pistons, block, cam chain drive/Injection pump drive] and the TD short block ? Other than the drive for leveling pump on the head aren't the bottom end of the engines the same? Assuming the head from your thrown rod engine can be returned to service, seems to me, using the short block [lower end] from a sedan version would widen the field quite a lot to find a serviceable engine. On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 1:51 PM, G. M. Brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: Re: My search for a 617.952 engine (not CA version) for my '85 300TD Anyone on our list have any experience(s) with Accurate Auto Parts in Monroe, LA? Note: I've realized one thing which may be making this search a problem, other than bein' on the lookout for the sleazeball scammers out there, if I've got my facts correct M-B imported the 300TD Turbodiesel in '84 '85 to the USA and, according to the Nitske book, the production numbers for '84 were 4,739 and for '85 were 3,713 and I don't think all these were imported to the USA. so there probably aren't many examples available. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] engine search
Re: My search for a 617.952 engine (not CA version) for my '85 300TD Anyone on our list have any experience(s) with Accurate Auto Parts in Monroe, LA? Note: I've realized one thing which may be making this search a problem, other than bein' on the lookout for the sleazeball scammers out there, if I've got my facts correct M-B imported the 300TD Turbodiesel in '84 '85 to the USA and, according to the Nitske book, the production numbers for '84 were 4,739 and for '85 were 3,713 and I don't think all these were imported to the USA. so there probably aren't many examples available. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] engine search
G. M. Brown wrote: ... if I've got my facts correct M-B imported the 300TD Turbodiesel in '84 '85 to the USA and Is there a reason you are limiting your search to '84 and '85? The S123 with a turbo first showed up in '81. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] engine search
What physical difference is there between the sedan short block [crank, rods, pistons, block, cam chain drive/Injection pump drive] and the TD short block ? Other than the drive for leveling pump on the head aren't the bottom end of the engines the same? Assuming the head from your thrown rod engine can be returned to service, seems to me, using the short block [lower end] from a sedan version would widen the field quite a lot to find a serviceable engine. On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 1:51 PM, G. M. Brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: Re: My search for a 617.952 engine (not CA version) for my '85 300TD Anyone on our list have any experience(s) with Accurate Auto Parts in Monroe, LA? Note: I've realized one thing which may be making this search a problem, other than bein' on the lookout for the sleazeball scammers out there, if I've got my facts correct M-B imported the 300TD Turbodiesel in '84 '85 to the USA and, according to the Nitske book, the production numbers for '84 were 4,739 and for '85 were 3,713 and I don't think all these were imported to the USA. so there probably aren't many examples available. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] engine search
G Mann wrote: What physical difference is there between the sedan short block [crank, rods, pistons, block, cam chain drive/Injection pump drive] and the TD short block ? None. If they are both turbo. The difference is the wagon always has the SLS pump drive. The sedan almost always does not. Assuming the head from your thrown rod engine can be returned to service, seems to me, using the short block [lower end] from a sedan version would widen the field quite a lot to find a serviceable engine. That's how I would go about it. But then I do my my own wrenching so the only mechanic I have to satisfy is myself. *smiles* -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
