Re: [MBZ] opinions about the 124 vs. 126
So Donald, any of this a help? Did you decide one way or the other? Curious minds need to know -- On 10/4/05, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here here Trampus. There is no comparison. The W126 is a far better car in all aspects. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] opinions about the 124 vs. 126
JabbaHursty wrote: that's much more sporty than the 126, which is pure town car. Huh? My 300SD with 230K takes the curves,brakes, and does just about everything else better, than the '74(78K) and '79(5K) Town Cars I've driven. except maybe accelerate, but it passes fuel pumps more often! Besides that a 126 IS the sexiest car on earth. (-: Russ H.
Re: [MBZ] opinions about the 124 vs. 126
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I personally hate the W124 it is small and uncomfortable. One of my main dislikes about the W124 is the door panel where it meets the window, it is very uncomfortable to put your elbow on, in fact it was the main reason I got rid of my 87 300D. Well, I would counter that that is a relative issue as if you were to sit in a w201 and then get into a w124, you'd think you had stepped into a much larger car for sure. The later w124s that I have driven seem to have a more substantial 'feel' to them, maybe that was my imagination. But in terms of handling and convenience, for anyone in an urban environment the w124 is much easier to live with. For example, where I live you can barely fit a w124 into the 'new' parking meter spaces on downtown streets. When you drive a w126, you have to search around for the end space on the block (or on either side of a hydrant or driveway) to let the car hang way over the white line Just another $0.02, Mac
Re: [MBZ] opinions about the 124 vs. 126
Snookie, The 126 is a newer design than the 123, and older than the 124. It is the last of the hand-built cars. Since your question concerns rear seat room, get an SEL or an SDL. That extra room is awesome. The 124 is more economical, and reportedly handles better. The SDL is head and shoulders above any contemporary car for comfort, agility and interstate cruising. I drive a lot of miles, and the SDL is flat out wonderful. Hursty compared it to a lincoln, and it is not. A lincoln is a barge. A 126 may not be as spritely as a 124, but it handles better than any other car its size. You need to remember the 123 was probably designed in 73 or 74. The 126 was probably designed about 78 or so. They are still beautiful cars today, and don't look outdated. My business partner drives a lincoln. I let him drive my SDL a couple of hours when i first got it and he loved it. He noticed it was nothing at all like a lincoln. Since you are in KS, i would opt for the 126. no question. I think you should keep the 90 124 also. They are hard to come by! Start a collection! At 01:05 PM 10/3/2005, you wrote: I am considering replacing my 90 300D 2.5 244K with a 1987 300SDL (I bet you can't guess which one I am considering). Anyway, I have never had one of the big body diesels, so I would appreciate any opinions any one has. My diesels have all been 123s and the current 124. I think the 124 is such a huge improvement over the 123. I really love my 124. I think it is a great car. Great mileage - great looking. But, I think I need more room especially when I have people in the back seat. What are the pros and cons of each car? Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have recieved this message in error, please delete it and notify me. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] opinions about the 124 vs. 126
I like them both - I should have one of each -- maybe a 201 also -- can't have enough Diesel Benzs - well maybe Kaleb has enough, but I don't know of anyone else! On 10/3/05, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I would counter that that is a relative issue as if you were to sit in a w201 and then get into a w124, you'd think you had stepped into a much larger car for sure. The later w124s that I have driven seem to have a more substantial 'feel' to them, maybe that was my imagination. But in terms of handling and convenience, for anyone in an urban environment the w124 is much easier to live with. For example, where I live you can barely fit a w124 into the 'new' parking meter spaces on downtown streets. When you drive a w126, you have to search around for the end space on the block (or on either side of a hydrant or driveway) to let the car hang way over the white line Just another $0.02, Mac ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] opinions about the 124 vs. 126
From the few hours that I was able to actually drive the w126 LWB, I thought it was a superb car and wanted that model just for the leg room. It was a pleasure on the highway, but a slug in town. I was trying to get from Dallas to SEA in three days solo, and the first day was going to make it a joy to cruise home. then it blew up, Kaleb offered me $500 Got a W124 E300D for the wife. She loves it to death. I think it is a mini me for the SDL. Same finish and feel, but smaller and faster. Drove it across the USA last summer. I was really wanting that extra room from the SDL. Not as comfort inducing like the SDL for long days on the road. Lots better mileage. On Monday, October 3, 2005, at 01:57 PM, Nick Gough wrote: I own both a W126.125 (1986 300SDL) and a W124 (1993 300E 2.8). Both are terrific cars. I like the performance, handling, economy (30mpg on the road), simple design, reliability, style and comfort of the W124. I have no problem with the elbow on the window sill, can put the seat back far enough to cause me to have troubles in reaching the firewall (I'm 6'6 tall), have gobs of headroom and can put the seat far enough forward and still be comfy and have legroom in the rear seat for long trips. The W124 is comfy on the open road, very solidly built, not a fussy car and definitely not tinny. The W126 car (300SDL) is an awesome, long-legged highway cruiser with all of the comfort you could ever expect in a limo. Comfort in the sense of having gobs of rear seat legroom (an additional 5.5 over a normal, non L based S-class) and a smooth ride. The front seat could be more comfy for me, the driver, as far as legroom is concerned, but it is a great road car. It may be slow in reaching 100mph, but once there, can effortlessly cruise there all day long, or as long as the 23 gallon tank can get you. I can get about 30mpg on the open road in this car, as well. It is not that speedy going up a hill with a full load and A/C on, but on the flats it has enough power to pass without a problem. It is a 4000 lb car with only 148 hp, so expect it to be slower than a W124. It is a very simple car, mechanically and electrically, and does not have McPherson struts on the front. The diesel engine is solid with very few, if any, problems and can last a very long time without major problems. It is not a tinny car, either. Each of these cars are much safer than one would imagine at first glance, although you would expect a large S-class car to be like riding in a tank, which is not too far off of the mark. :) Someday, I'll be selling the 300SDL, but I've decided to keep it for now, fixing it up, keeping it in better shape and then sell it when I eventually get a new C230 sedan (the 2006+ model). Each of these diesel engined cars (if you have a W124 300D) are appreciating in value like crazy, so keeping them is cool and buying one now is also cool, since you will be getting an economical, safe, comfy car that is reliable to boot. Good Luck. Nick Gough 86 300SDL 169k miles 93 300E 2.8 127k miles (?? can't remember... :) - Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] opinions about the 124 vs. 126
i've had two 126's...mexico don's high mileage '82 380sel, and the current '86 sdl...both horribly slow from a stopped start (i miss the raw power of an american V8)...but the 126 is large and classy, and on the road above 50mph, very powerfull and responsive...i put new shocks on the sdl and kick myself for not using the bilstein sporty ones...i'd actually like to have a really good spare 126 for my next car...what great used cars for under 6k!
Re: [MBZ] opinions about the 124 vs. 126
I'll let you get by with that! I never heard of a turbodiesel 6 cyl Lincoln though. At 11:17 AM 10/4/2005, you wrote: a lincoln with uprated suspension package? At 07:53 PM 10/3/2005, you wrote: Snookie, The 126 is a newer design than the 123, and older than the 124. It is the last of the hand-built cars. Since your question concerns rear seat room, get an SEL or an SDL. That extra room is awesome. The 124 is more economical, and reportedly handles better. The SDL is head and shoulders above any contemporary car for comfort, agility and interstate cruising. I drive a lot of miles, and the SDL is flat out wonderful. Hursty compared it to a lincoln, and it is not. A lincoln is a barge. A 126 may not be as spritely as a 124, but it handles better than any other car its size. You need to remember the 123 was probably designed in 73 or 74. The 126 was probably designed about 78 or so. They are still beautiful cars today, and don't look outdated. My business partner drives a lincoln. I let him drive my SDL a couple of hours when i first got it and he loved it. He noticed it was nothing at all like a lincoln. Since you are in KS, i would opt for the 126. no question. I think you should keep the 90 124 also. They are hard to come by! Start a collection! At 01:05 PM 10/3/2005, you wrote: I am considering replacing my 90 300D 2.5 244K with a 1987 300SDL (I bet you can't guess which one I am considering). Anyway, I have never had one of the big body diesels, so I would appreciate any opinions any one has. My diesels have all been 123s and the current 124. I think the 124 is such a huge improvement over the 123. I really love my 124. I think it is a great car. Great mileage - great looking. But, I think I need more room especially when I have people in the back seat. What are the pros and cons of each car? Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have recieved this message in error, please delete it and notify me. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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that's much more sporty than the 126, which is pure town car. At 01:33 PM 10/4/2005, you wrote: mid 80's MKVII bmw 2.4l turbodiesel On 10/4/05, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll let you get by with that! I never heard of a turbodiesel 6 cyl Lincoln though. -- Rory Morrison Oroville, WA 1985 300SD 1982 300TD ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] opinions about the 124 vs. 126
I still vote for the W126, in my opinion it is the greatest sedan ever made! The W124 just never fit me right I felt like I was in a sports car with 4 doors not a sedan. Actually I still dislike the window seal, for some reason it just hurt my red neck elbow. My wife of course had little love of the W124 either, she felt more comfortable in the W126 as well. After you drive a W126 for a few months, go ride in a Honda civic, you will then understand the term portable tin coffin. A co-worker was mentioning how much better gas mileage his little Toyota got over my W126. When he got done, I looked at him and said, isn't it funny how we always take my car to lunch and not yours. I would highly recommend driving both for a month if possible before making a decision. Regards, Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 1:19 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] opinions about the 124 vs. 126 I'll let you get by with that! I never heard of a turbodiesel 6 cyl Lincoln though. At 11:17 AM 10/4/2005, you wrote: a lincoln with uprated suspension package? At 07:53 PM 10/3/2005, you wrote: Snookie, The 126 is a newer design than the 123, and older than the 124. It is the last of the hand-built cars. Since your question concerns rear seat room, get an SEL or an SDL. That extra room is awesome. The 124 is more economical, and reportedly handles better. The SDL is head and shoulders above any contemporary car for comfort, agility and interstate cruising. I drive a lot of miles, and the SDL is flat out wonderful. Hursty compared it to a lincoln, and it is not. A lincoln is a barge. A 126 may not be as spritely as a 124, but it handles better than any other car its size. You need to remember the 123 was probably designed in 73 or 74. The 126 was probably designed about 78 or so. They are still beautiful cars today, and don't look outdated. My business partner drives a lincoln. I let him drive my SDL a couple of hours when i first got it and he loved it. He noticed it was nothing at all like a lincoln. Since you are in KS, i would opt for the 126. no question. I think you should keep the 90 124 also. They are hard to come by! Start a collection! At 01:05 PM 10/3/2005, you wrote: I am considering replacing my 90 300D 2.5 244K with a 1987 300SDL (I bet you can't guess which one I am considering). Anyway, I have never had one of the big body diesels, so I would appreciate any opinions any one has. My diesels have all been 123s and the current 124. I think the 124 is such a huge improvement over the 123. I really love my 124. I think it is a great car. Great mileage - great looking. But, I think I need more room especially when I have people in the back seat. What are the pros and cons of each car? Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have recieved this message in error, please delete it and notify me. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] opinions about the 124 vs. 126
Here here Trampus. There is no comparison. The W126 is a far better car in all aspects. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Trampas Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 1:47 PM To: 'Mercedes mailing list' Subject: Re: [MBZ] opinions about the 124 vs. 126 I still vote for the W126, in my opinion it is the greatest sedan ever made! The W124 just never fit me right I felt like I was in a sports car with 4 doors not a sedan. Actually I still dislike the window seal, for some reason it just hurt my red neck elbow. My wife of course had little love of the W124 either, she felt more comfortable in the W126 as well. After you drive a W126 for a few months, go ride in a Honda civic, you will then understand the term portable tin coffin. A co-worker was mentioning how much better gas mileage his little Toyota got over my W126. When he got done, I looked at him and said, isn't it funny how we always take my car to lunch and not yours. I would highly recommend driving both for a month if possible before making a decision. Regards, Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 1:19 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] opinions about the 124 vs. 126 I'll let you get by with that! I never heard of a turbodiesel 6 cyl Lincoln though. At 11:17 AM 10/4/2005, you wrote: a lincoln with uprated suspension package? At 07:53 PM 10/3/2005, you wrote: Snookie, The 126 is a newer design than the 123, and older than the 124. It is the last of the hand-built cars. Since your question concerns rear seat room, get an SEL or an SDL. That extra room is awesome. The 124 is more economical, and reportedly handles better. The SDL is head and shoulders above any contemporary car for comfort, agility and interstate cruising. I drive a lot of miles, and the SDL is flat out wonderful. Hursty compared it to a lincoln, and it is not. A lincoln is a barge. A 126 may not be as spritely as a 124, but it handles better than any other car its size. You need to remember the 123 was probably designed in 73 or 74. The 126 was probably designed about 78 or so. They are still beautiful cars today, and don't look outdated. My business partner drives a lincoln. I let him drive my SDL a couple of hours when i first got it and he loved it. He noticed it was nothing at all like a lincoln. Since you are in KS, i would opt for the 126. no question. I think you should keep the 90 124 also. They are hard to come by! Start a collection! At 01:05 PM 10/3/2005, you wrote: I am considering replacing my 90 300D 2.5 244K with a 1987 300SDL (I bet you can't guess which one I am considering). Anyway, I have never had one of the big body diesels, so I would appreciate any opinions any one has. My diesels have all been 123s and the current 124. I think the 124 is such a huge improvement over the 123. I really love my 124. I think it is a great car. Great mileage - great looking. But, I think I need more room especially when I have people in the back seat. What are the pros and cons of each car? Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have recieved this message in error, please delete it and notify me. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] opinions about the 124 vs. 126
I've owned two 124 bodies and I own a 1987 300SDL. They really are two different cars. I love my 300SDL but if I had my choice of Mercedes, it would be a 1991, 124 body, 300D 2.5 Turbo-diesel. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 1:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] opinions about the 124 vs. 126 I am considering replacing my 90 300D 2.5 244K with a 1987 300SDL (I bet you can't guess which one I am considering). Anyway, I have never had one of the big body diesels, so I would appreciate any opinions any one has. My diesels have all been 123s and the current 124. I think the 124 is such a huge improvement over the 123. I really love my 124. I think it is a great car. Great mileage - great looking. But, I think I need more room especially when I have people in the back seat. What are the pros and cons of each car? Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have recieved this message in error, please delete it and notify me. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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126 is a german lincoln. you like lincoln? it has more room on the back i'd stick with the 124 At 02:05 PM 10/3/2005, you wrote: I am considering replacing my 90 300D 2.5 244K with a 1987 300SDL (I bet you can't guess which one I am considering). Anyway, I have never had one of the big body diesels, so I would appreciate any opinions any one has. My diesels have all been 123s and the current 124. I think the 124 is such a huge improvement over the 123. I really love my 124. I think it is a great car. Great mileage - great looking. But, I think I need more room especially when I have people in the back seat. What are the pros and cons of each car? Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have recieved this message in error, please delete it and notify me. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] opinions about the 124 vs. 126
Donald Snook wrote: I am considering replacing my 90 300D 2.5 244K with a 1987 300SDL (I bet you can't guess which one I am considering). Anyway, I have never had one of the big body diesels, so I would appreciate any opinions any one has. My diesels have all been 123s and the current 124. I think the 124 is such a huge improvement over the 123. I really love my 124. I think it is a great car. Great mileage - great looking. But, I think I need more room especially when I have people in the back seat. What are the pros and cons of each car? The 126 is a WONDERFUL riding, comfortable highway car. It's slower, and less economical and less fun to drive than the 124 (which won awards as being the greatest touring car in the '80s). Both are GREAT cars - the 124 is a more modern design and MUCH nicer to drive in MY opinion. I've never owned a 126 - but have driven more than a few. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi
Re: [MBZ] opinions about the 124 vs. 126
I personally hate the W124 it is small and uncomfortable. One of my main dislikes about the W124 is the door panel where it meets the window, it is very uncomfortable to put your elbow on, in fact it was the main reason I got rid of my 87 300D. The W124 is great car but it is more like a Honda Accord and if you enjoy small tin boxes then more power to you. I will keep my W126s and pay the fuel premium for having a comfortable ride. Regards, Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marshall Booth Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 3:09 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] opinions about the 124 vs. 126 Donald Snook wrote: I am considering replacing my 90 300D 2.5 244K with a 1987 300SDL (I bet you can't guess which one I am considering). Anyway, I have never had one of the big body diesels, so I would appreciate any opinions any one has. My diesels have all been 123s and the current 124. I think the 124 is such a huge improvement over the 123. I really love my 124. I think it is a great car. Great mileage - great looking. But, I think I need more room especially when I have people in the back seat. What are the pros and cons of each car? The 126 is a WONDERFUL riding, comfortable highway car. It's slower, and less economical and less fun to drive than the 124 (which won awards as being the greatest touring car in the '80s). Both are GREAT cars - the 124 is a more modern design and MUCH nicer to drive in MY opinion. I've never owned a 126 - but have driven more than a few. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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sounds like a lincoln as for small, i weigh about 500lbs and fit fine in a 124. then again, i also fit in a VW Rabbit, so not sure what that means At 03:39 PM 10/3/2005, you wrote: I personally hate the W124 it is small and uncomfortable. One of my main dislikes about the W124 is the door panel where it meets the window, it is very uncomfortable to put your elbow on, in fact it was the main reason I got rid of my 87 300D. The W124 is great car but it is more like a Honda Accord and if you enjoy small tin boxes then more power to you. I will keep my W126s and pay the fuel premium for having a comfortable ride. Regards, Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marshall Booth Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 3:09 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] opinions about the 124 vs. 126 Donald Snook wrote: I am considering replacing my 90 300D 2.5 244K with a 1987 300SDL (I bet you can't guess which one I am considering). Anyway, I have never had one of the big body diesels, so I would appreciate any opinions any one has. My diesels have all been 123s and the current 124. I think the 124 is such a huge improvement over the 123. I really love my 124. I think it is a great car. Great mileage - great looking. But, I think I need more room especially when I have people in the back seat. What are the pros and cons of each car? The 126 is a WONDERFUL riding, comfortable highway car. It's slower, and less economical and less fun to drive than the 124 (which won awards as being the greatest touring car in the '80s). Both are GREAT cars - the 124 is a more modern design and MUCH nicer to drive in MY opinion. I've never owned a 126 - but have driven more than a few. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] opinions about the 124 vs. 126
I own both a W126.125 (1986 300SDL) and a W124 (1993 300E 2.8). Both are terrific cars. I like the performance, handling, economy (30mpg on the road), simple design, reliability, style and comfort of the W124. I have no problem with the elbow on the window sill, can put the seat back far enough to cause me to have troubles in reaching the firewall (I'm 6'6 tall), have gobs of headroom and can put the seat far enough forward and still be comfy and have legroom in the rear seat for long trips. The W124 is comfy on the open road, very solidly built, not a fussy car and definitely not tinny. The W126 car (300SDL) is an awesome, long-legged highway cruiser with all of the comfort you could ever expect in a limo. Comfort in the sense of having gobs of rear seat legroom (an additional 5.5 over a normal, non L based S-class) and a smooth ride. The front seat could be more comfy for me, the driver, as far as legroom is concerned, but it is a great road car. It may be slow in reaching 100mph, but once there, can effortlessly cruise there all day long, or as long as the 23 gallon tank can get you. I can get about 30mpg on the open road in this car, as well. It is not that speedy going up a hill with a full load and A/C on, but on the flats it has enough power to pass without a problem. It is a 4000 lb car with only 148 hp, so expect it to be slower than a W124. It is a very simple car, mechanically and electrically, and does not have McPherson struts on the front. The diesel engine is solid with very few, if any, problems and can last a very long time without major problems. It is not a tinny car, either. Each of these cars are much safer than one would imagine at first glance, although you would expect a large S-class car to be like riding in a tank, which is not too far off of the mark. :) Someday, I'll be selling the 300SDL, but I've decided to keep it for now, fixing it up, keeping it in better shape and then sell it when I eventually get a new C230 sedan (the 2006+ model). Each of these diesel engined cars (if you have a W124 300D) are appreciating in value like crazy, so keeping them is cool and buying one now is also cool, since you will be getting an economical, safe, comfy car that is reliable to boot. Good Luck. Nick Gough 86 300SDL 169k miles 93 300E 2.8 127k miles (?? can't remember... :) - Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Oct 03 21:01:55 2005 Received: from mordred.punk.net ([216.218.194.216]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.52) id 1EMXRb-00029i-3S for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 21:01:55 + Received: from mordred.punk.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mordred.punk.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j93L1iI6062174 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 14:01:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by mordred.punk.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j93L1ivU062173 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 14:01:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kevin) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 14:01:44 -0700 From: Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Compression ratio X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 21:01:55 - On Fri, Sep 30, 2005 at 11:10:03AM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: The ratio is not possible to change, its a fixed amount. The ratio 22:1 means that when the piston is at the bottom of the stroke it moves up and compresses that amount of space into the 1 so to speak. Its determined by the stroke. There is, of course a difference between cranking compression and static compression, but neither of these has anything to do with the turbo - more of something that came out of cam technology improving over the last four decades. K
