Re: [MBZ] the enterprise looses its warp drive, forced to run on impulse power
On Fri, Dec 30, 2005 at 05:23:53PM -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: We dont have to have cats here. BZT. Tampering with factory-installed emissions devices (or removing them) is a violation of FEDERAL statute. And the fine is fairly substantial. Whether anyone is out looking for it is another thing entirely, but just because a law isn't necessarily enforced does not mean that it is legal. K
Re: [MBZ] the enterprise looses its warp drive, forced to run on impulse power
Kevin wrote: BZT. Tampering with factory-installed emissions devices (or removing them) is a violation of FEDERAL statute. And the fine is fairly substantial. I used to go to an exhaust shop that had a big sign behind the desk that said, If you don't ask me to remove your catalytic converter, I won't ask you to pay the $2500 fine.
Re: [MBZ] the enterprise looses its warp drive, forced to run on impulse power
Come on over to Iowa, dude. No inspections, no questions, just pick-ups with glass packs. On 1/4/06, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Dec 30, 2005 at 05:23:53PM -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: We dont have to have cats here. BZT. Tampering with factory-installed emissions devices (or removing them) is a violation of FEDERAL statute. And the fine is fairly substantial. Whether anyone is out looking for it is another thing entirely, but just because a law isn't necessarily enforced does not mean that it is legal. K ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] the enterprise looses its warp drive, forced to run on impulse power
On 12/29/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So today was the first day of daily driving use for the 380 with the 5.0 euro motor. Wife driving at around all day, no problems at all. Then this evening she was going down the highway and she says all the sudden she couldnt get over 20mph. Ahh Scotty, can you tell how fast you're going from the vibration of the floor pans? -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
Re: [MBZ] the enterprise looses its warp drive, forced to run on impulse power
This had better not be taking time away from fixing the [Actually, no hurry at the moment.] On 12/30/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HAHAHAHA Thanks for the tips. Will be on it this weekend. Trampas wrote: KAleb, First check the economy gauge and make sure it is going into the red, that is the intake is reaching 0 of vacuum. On the W126 the throttle linkage is spring loaded such that if the throttle plate sticks and does not open all the way the gas pedal will still feel normal and go to floor but the economy gauge will not go into red. I had a 560SEL that did this after I washed engine and at first I thought Cat or Fuel filter. To check catalytic converter I will often remove O2 sensor and drive car. Actually I have a pressure gauge with an adapter for the O2 sensor such that I can measure back pressure. The catalytic converter can also fall apart and plug it's self up. Thus it can happen rather sudden. Now if the Cat plugged up then after you replace you will want to check emissions to make sure engine is tuned correctly. I usually monitor O2 sensor to determine if engine is running rich or lean. A couple more diagnostic steps may help you: #1 Check economy gauge for going fully in the red. If not check throttle linkage and for dead animals in intake. #2 at idle have some one rev up engine, then shoot a little carb cleaner in intake. If engine revs high you know you are not getting enough fuel, and most likely not Cat. #3 I will give you $500 for the car and take my chances... I thought others would like that... Trampas -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] the enterprise looses its warp drive, forced to run on impulse power
Uhh, yea, it might but shoulnt be too long. That car is still on the trailer, will probably replace that fuel pump tomorrow(wanted to do that while its on the trailer and easy to get to) so I can move it off the trailer to go pick up the 380. LT Don wrote: This had better not be taking time away from fixing the [Actually, no hurry at the moment.] On 12/30/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HAHAHAHA Thanks for the tips. Will be on it this weekend. Trampas wrote: KAleb, First check the economy gauge and make sure it is going into the red, that is the intake is reaching 0 of vacuum. On the W126 the throttle linkage is spring loaded such that if the throttle plate sticks and does not open all the way the gas pedal will still feel normal and go to floor but the economy gauge will not go into red. I had a 560SEL that did this after I washed engine and at first I thought Cat or Fuel filter. To check catalytic converter I will often remove O2 sensor and drive car. Actually I have a pressure gauge with an adapter for the O2 sensor such that I can measure back pressure. The catalytic converter can also fall apart and plug it's self up. Thus it can happen rather sudden. Now if the Cat plugged up then after you replace you will want to check emissions to make sure engine is tuned correctly. I usually monitor O2 sensor to determine if engine is running rich or lean. A couple more diagnostic steps may help you: #1 Check economy gauge for going fully in the red. If not check throttle linkage and for dead animals in intake. #2 at idle have some one rev up engine, then shoot a little carb cleaner in intake. If engine revs high you know you are not getting enough fuel, and most likely not Cat. #3 I will give you $500 for the car and take my chances... I thought others would like that... Trampas -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] the enterprise looses its warp drive, forced to run on impulse power
On 12/29/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . Anyways, looked under the car and the exhaust was GLOWING. Darn near caught the grass on fire. Anyways, from what I rememember the glowing was mainly in the middle near the cat. The pipes themselves were also glowing... Cats can plug up. And explode under the car. A buddy has a Nissan P/U with a plugged converter. The thing that has me confused though is if the exhaust was plugged from sitting why would it be fine all day then all the sudden just have the problem? If it wasnt getting fuel could it run lean enough to cause the exhaust to glow red hot? They don't plug completely, but cause a lot of flow restriction, which causes the reaction heat to intensify. If it would have been running lean, I don't beliefe it would have gotten that hot. The catalyst causes unburned carbons and partially burnt carbons (carbon monoxyde) to react with oxygen (burn, if you will), which causes heat. I guess my first plan is to unhook the exhaust and see what happens. If it runs fine then we know the exhaust has problems. The exhaust that is on it now was not the 380 exhaust, but the newer looking stainless steel exhaust that was on the 500SE parts car. Anybody have any thoughts? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] the enterprise looses its warp drive, forced to run on impulse power
Well d'uh, it's plugged with dilithium crystals...sheesh! It's giving ya all it's got cap'n! It canna go no more! On 12/29/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CAT plugged up from all the oil/smoke stuff that was burning on the first few starts? Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
Re: [MBZ] the enterprise looses its warp drive, forced to run on impulse power
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Anyways, looked under the car and the exhaust was GLOWING. Darn near caught the grass on fire. Could be an ignition problem -- the unburned fuel will burn in the catalytic converter. I'd expect lots of black smoke in that case, though. Regardless of the original cause, it's very likely the catalytic converter has melted down and is now plugging your exhaust, causing the loss of power.
Re: [MBZ] the enterprise looses its warp drive, forced to run on impulse power
I guess I probably need to cut the cat out and just install a straight pipe. Hans Neureiter wrote: On 12/29/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . Anyways, looked under the car and the exhaust was GLOWING. Darn near caught the grass on fire. Anyways, from what I rememember the glowing was mainly in the middle near the cat. The pipes themselves were also glowing... Cats can plug up. And explode under the car. A buddy has a Nissan P/U with a plugged converter. The thing that has me confused though is if the exhaust was plugged from sitting why would it be fine all day then all the sudden just have the problem? If it wasnt getting fuel could it run lean enough to cause the exhaust to glow red hot? They don't plug completely, but cause a lot of flow restriction, which causes the reaction heat to intensify. If it would have been running lean, I don't beliefe it would have gotten that hot. The catalyst causes unburned carbons and partially burnt carbons (carbon monoxyde) to react with oxygen (burn, if you will), which causes heat. I guess my first plan is to unhook the exhaust and see what happens. If it runs fine then we know the exhaust has problems. The exhaust that is on it now was not the 380 exhaust, but the newer looking stainless steel exhaust that was on the 500SE parts car. Anybody have any thoughts? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] the enterprise looses its warp drive, forced to run on impulse power
perhaps. OK Don wrote: CAT plugged up from all the oil/smoke stuff that was burning on the first few starts? On 12/29/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So today was the first day of daily driving use for the 380 with the 5.0 euro motor. Wife driving at around all day, no problems at all. Then this evening she was going down the highway and she says all the sudden she couldnt get over 20mph. At first I thought maybe she meant the tranny wouldnt upshift or something. Anyways, I came out and swapped cars. Couldnt get any power, couldnt get the RPM's up. Figured the fuel filter got plugged up since the car has been sitting for several years. Before it was running again I drained the tank to replace the fuel pump, then added a couple of gallons of fresh fuel. She then filled it up today so figured the filter plugged. Felt like it wasnt getting fuel. Anyways, got the car to my dads to park it till I can get it all the way home on the trailer. Even in park you cant get the RPM over 2K or so. Anyways, looked under the car and the exhaust was GLOWING. Darn near caught the grass on fire. Anyways, from what I rememember the glowing was mainly in the middle near the cat. The pipes themselves were also glowing. So my next thought was the exhaust was plugged up or something. The thing that has me confused though is if the exhaust was plugged from sitting why would it be fine all day then all the sudden just have the problem? If it wasnt getting fuel could it run lean enough to cause the exhaust to glow red hot? I guess my first plan is to unhook the exhaust and see what happens. If it runs fine then we know the exhaust has problems. The exhaust that is on it now was not the 380 exhaust, but the newer looking stainless steel exhaust that was on the 500SE parts car. Anybody have any thoughts? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] the enterprise looses its warp drive, forced to run on impulse power
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Zeitgeist wrote: Well d'uh, it's plugged with dilithium crystals...sheesh! It's giving ya all it's got cap'n! It canna go no more! On 12/29/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CAT plugged up from all the oil/smoke stuff that was burning on the first few starts? Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
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No smoke at all except the first few minutes it initially started. Not enough to cause any damage though. Will probably removed the thing since its now a euro anyways. David Brodbeck wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Anyways, looked under the car and the exhaust was GLOWING. Darn near caught the grass on fire. Could be an ignition problem -- the unburned fuel will burn in the catalytic converter. I'd expect lots of black smoke in that case, though. Regardless of the original cause, it's very likely the catalytic converter has melted down and is now plugging your exhaust, causing the loss of power. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] the enterprise looses its warp drive, forced to run on impulse power
On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 21:43:34 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess I probably need to cut the cat out and just install a straight pipe. If that doesn't work, you might check the ignition timing (which you might do anyway before removing the cat). Severly retarded timing will cause pipes to glow orange and drop the power. Craig
Re: [MBZ] the enterprise looses its warp drive, forced to run on impulse power
HAHAHAHA Thanks for the tips. Will be on it this weekend. Trampas wrote: KAleb, First check the economy gauge and make sure it is going into the red, that is the intake is reaching 0 of vacuum. On the W126 the throttle linkage is spring loaded such that if the throttle plate sticks and does not open all the way the gas pedal will still feel normal and go to floor but the economy gauge will not go into red. I had a 560SEL that did this after I washed engine and at first I thought Cat or Fuel filter. To check catalytic converter I will often remove O2 sensor and drive car. Actually I have a pressure gauge with an adapter for the O2 sensor such that I can measure back pressure. The catalytic converter can also fall apart and plug it's self up. Thus it can happen rather sudden. Now if the Cat plugged up then after you replace you will want to check emissions to make sure engine is tuned correctly. I usually monitor O2 sensor to determine if engine is running rich or lean. A couple more diagnostic steps may help you: #1 Check economy gauge for going fully in the red. If not check throttle linkage and for dead animals in intake. #2 at idle have some one rev up engine, then shoot a little carb cleaner in intake. If engine revs high you know you are not getting enough fuel, and most likely not Cat. #3 I will give you $500 for the car and take my chances... I thought others would like that... Trampas -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] the enterprise looses its warp drive, forced to run on impulse power
This may sound obvious, but did you check the throttle linkage to see if the $1.00 plastic bushing was still intact? Ask me how I know... On 12/30/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HAHAHAHA Thanks for the tips. Will be on it this weekend. Trampas wrote: KAleb, First check the economy gauge and make sure it is going into the red, that is the intake is reaching 0 of vacuum. On the W126 the throttle linkage is spring loaded such that if the throttle plate sticks and does not open all the way the gas pedal will still feel normal and go to floor but the economy gauge will not go into red. I had a 560SEL that did this after I washed engine and at first I thought Cat or Fuel filter. To check catalytic converter I will often remove O2 sensor and drive car. Actually I have a pressure gauge with an adapter for the O2 sensor such that I can measure back pressure. The catalytic converter can also fall apart and plug it's self up. Thus it can happen rather sudden. Now if the Cat plugged up then after you replace you will want to check emissions to make sure engine is tuned correctly. I usually monitor O2 sensor to determine if engine is running rich or lean. A couple more diagnostic steps may help you: #1 Check economy gauge for going fully in the red. If not check throttle linkage and for dead animals in intake. #2 at idle have some one rev up engine, then shoot a little carb cleaner in intake. If engine revs high you know you are not getting enough fuel, and most likely not Cat. #3 I will give you $500 for the car and take my chances... I thought others would like that... Trampas -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] the enterprise looses its warp drive, forced to run on impulse power
Of course I would never do this and I expect nobody else here would either but I've *heard* of people pulling the cat and smashing out all the innards before they reinstall it. Keeps that stock appearance for states that require a cat for inspection... -Curt Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 21:43:34 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] the enterprise looses its warp drive, forced to run on impulse power To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed I guess I probably need to cut the cat out and just install a straight pipe. - Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Dec 30 18:27:11 2005 Received: from bay107-f36.bay107.hotmail.com ([64.4.51.46] helo=hotmail.com) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EsOy7-0001FX-IY for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 30 Dec 2005 18:27:11 + Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 30 Dec 2005 10:27:07 -0800 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from 64.4.51.220 by by107fd.bay107.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 30 Dec 2005 18:27:06 GMT X-Originating-IP: [70.249.217.137] X-Originating-Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: V Layton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bcc: Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 18:27:06 + Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Dec 2005 18:27:07.0331 (UTC) FILETIME=[A3DC1130:01C60D6E] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rebuilt Odometers/Speedometers X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 18:27:11 - What about Lauderdale Speedometer? www.Lspeedo.com I think they specialize in VDO Sucks about the scrapping of service parts For W123 owners, I volunteer to to offer a repair for those who want to hire the job but not get taken for as much money as most shops charge... From: Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rebuilt Odometers/Speedometers Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 12:14:49 -0500 I have replaced gears on about 6 odometers they are easy to fix. Of course if you want to pay someone to fix your odometer I am sure people on the list will volunteer to take your money. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hans Neureiter Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 12:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rebuilt Odometers/Speedometers VDO is adios. SIEMENS took over 3 years ago and scraped the production of service parts. -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D On 12/30/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure if VDO still has a USA repair shop. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
Re: [MBZ] the enterprise looses its warp drive, forced to run on impulse power
What I do is go to advance auto parts buy a $50 generic Catalytic converter and take to muffler shop. Pay the guy $20-$30 cash and he installs it. It is much easier and more legal than gutting a catalytic converter or by passing one. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 1:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] the enterprise looses its warp drive,forced to run on impulse power Of course I would never do this and I expect nobody else here would either but I've *heard* of people pulling the cat and smashing out all the innards before they reinstall it. Keeps that stock appearance for states that require a cat for inspection... -Curt Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 21:43:34 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] the enterprise looses its warp drive, forced to run on impulse power To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed I guess I probably need to cut the cat out and just install a straight pipe. - Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] the enterprise looses its warp drive, forced to run on impulse power
Trampas wrote: What I do is go to advance auto parts buy a $50 generic Catalytic converter and take to muffler shop. Pay the guy $20-$30 cash and he installs it. It is much easier and more legal than gutting a catalytic converter or by passing one. Very true. However, with a Euro engine Kaleb's not gonna be passing any smog tests anyway.
Re: [MBZ] the enterprise looses its warp drive, forced to run on impulse power
No guy at an inspection station would know the difference in the 5.0L as compared to the 3.8L. Here in North Carolina starting January 1st 1995 and older cars will not be tested for emissions. They will just look and very it has the catalytic converter installed. For 1996 and newer it will be done all via OBDII, that is plug into computer and if computer in your car says it is good you pass emissions. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Brodbeck Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 1:59 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] the enterprise looses its warp drive, forced to run on impulse power Trampas wrote: What I do is go to advance auto parts buy a $50 generic Catalytic converter and take to muffler shop. Pay the guy $20-$30 cash and he installs it. It is much easier and more legal than gutting a catalytic converter or by passing one. Very true. However, with a Euro engine Kaleb's not gonna be passing any smog tests anyway. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] the enterprise looses its warp drive, forced to run on impulse power
In Texas anything older than 1975(?) is exempt. Anything without a OBD2 after that goes on a Dyno with a probe up the pipe. The rest: Computer interrogation. Got a *check engine* light on, you failed, no matter what. On 12/30/05, Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No guy at an inspection station would know the difference in the 5.0L as compared to the 3.8L. Here in North Carolina starting January 1st 1995 and older cars will not be tested for emissions. They will just look and very it has the catalytic converter installed. For 1996 and newer it will be done all via OBDII, that is plug into computer and if computer in your car says it is good you pass emissions. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Brodbeck Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 1:59 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] the enterprise looses its warp drive, forced to run on impulse power Trampas wrote: What I do is go to advance auto parts buy a $50 generic Catalytic converter and take to muffler shop. Pay the guy $20-$30 cash and he installs it. It is much easier and more legal than gutting a catalytic converter or by passing one. Very true. However, with a Euro engine Kaleb's not gonna be passing any smog tests anyway. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
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No inspection of anything, anytime in OK --- On 12/30/05, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In Texas anything older than 1975(?) is exempt. Anything without a OBD2 after that goes on a Dyno with a probe up the pipe. The rest: Computer interrogation. Got a *check engine* light on, you failed, no matter what. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] the enterprise looses its warp drive, forced to run on impulse power
Florida had in the 70's a elaborate inspection system, like an assembly line with dyno and what not. The abolished this and don't have any vehicle inspection. If you get pulled over, the Trooper gives you one and failing results in a hefty fine. -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D On 12/30/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No inspection of anything, anytime in OK ---
Re: [MBZ] the enterprise looses its warp drive, forced to run on impulse power
OK Don wrote: No inspection of anything, anytime in OK --- Michigan was that way, too. As a friend of mine put it once, if it has a VIN, you can register it.
Re: [MBZ] the enterprise looses its warp drive, forced to run on impulse power
no, but that wouldnt go too far to explain the glowing exhaust. andrew strasfogel wrote: This may sound obvious, but did you check the throttle linkage to see if the $1.00 plastic bushing was still intact? Ask me how I know... On 12/30/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HAHAHAHA Thanks for the tips. Will be on it this weekend. Trampas wrote: KAleb, First check the economy gauge and make sure it is going into the red, that is the intake is reaching 0 of vacuum. On the W126 the throttle linkage is spring loaded such that if the throttle plate sticks and does not open all the way the gas pedal will still feel normal and go to floor but the economy gauge will not go into red. I had a 560SEL that did this after I washed engine and at first I thought Cat or Fuel filter. To check catalytic converter I will often remove O2 sensor and drive car. Actually I have a pressure gauge with an adapter for the O2 sensor such that I can measure back pressure. The catalytic converter can also fall apart and plug it's self up. Thus it can happen rather sudden. Now if the Cat plugged up then after you replace you will want to check emissions to make sure engine is tuned correctly. I usually monitor O2 sensor to determine if engine is running rich or lean. A couple more diagnostic steps may help you: #1 Check economy gauge for going fully in the red. If not check throttle linkage and for dead animals in intake. #2 at idle have some one rev up engine, then shoot a little carb cleaner in intake. If engine revs high you know you are not getting enough fuel, and most likely not Cat. #3 I will give you $500 for the car and take my chances... I thought others would like that... Trampas -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
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We dont have to have cats here. I will probably pull it off and put a pipe in there. Cant remmeber if its welded or clamped on though. Curt Raymond wrote: Of course I would never do this and I expect nobody else here would either but I've *heard* of people pulling the cat and smashing out all the innards before they reinstall it. Keeps that stock appearance for states that require a cat for inspection... -Curt Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 21:43:34 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] the enterprise looses its warp drive, forced to run on impulse power To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed I guess I probably need to cut the cat out and just install a straight pipe. - Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] the enterprise looses its warp drive, forced to run on impulse power
we have no testing or inspections of any kind here. Trampas wrote: No guy at an inspection station would know the difference in the 5.0L as compared to the 3.8L. Here in North Carolina starting January 1st 1995 and older cars will not be tested for emissions. They will just look and very it has the catalytic converter installed. For 1996 and newer it will be done all via OBDII, that is plug into computer and if computer in your car says it is good you pass emissions. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Brodbeck Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 1:59 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] the enterprise looses its warp drive, forced to run on impulse power Trampas wrote: What I do is go to advance auto parts buy a $50 generic Catalytic converter and take to muffler shop. Pay the guy $20-$30 cash and he installs it. It is much easier and more legal than gutting a catalytic converter or by passing one. Very true. However, with a Euro engine Kaleb's not gonna be passing any smog tests anyway. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
