Re: [MBZ] timing chain temp link

2006-04-13 Thread Richard Hattaway
I have one from an old chain, back in the days when it was supplied as
part of the replacement.  I got it from a real old timer, and I am an
old timer too.  So mine's pretty old.  And worn.  But it works.

You need to find a benevolent old timer.  I will put you in my will,
you can have mine when I die.  (c:  ( may not be too far off (c:  )

Richard

PS, loosing the bits down a hole is the reason you own one of those
super magnet screwdrivers from Autozone.  Bitty magnet, lotsa power. 
It will lift a whole timing chain by the end.  Long story, good ending
(c:



--- Van Cleve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Where does one get one of these temporary clip links. I have done
 several 
 T chains and its a PIA to do and undo the regular master link. I
 remember a 
 post sometime back about using a clip style master link from some
 other 
 model (other than a 617/6) for pulling the chain through. I assume
 Rusty 
 would have the link if I knew what to ask for.   One could spoil the
 day by 
 losing all or part of a clip down the hole :'( 
 
 

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Re: [MBZ] timing chain temp link

2006-04-13 Thread Mathieu J . Cama
Order a master clip for an m100 car (p/n 0009970598). It will work just 
fine. Also, I place many rags in the chain cavity so that if something 
should fall, it will land on the rag or fall outside of the motor. This 
is critical to do when grinding/breaking the old chain as well as 
covering the cam and other open and sensitive areas. Follow the 
instructions posted on Dieselgiant's web site. That tutorial was 
photographed at my shop.


Mathieu
www.oldworldauto.com


On Apr 13, 2006, at 1:27 PM, Richard Hattaway wrote:


I have one from an old chain, back in the days when it was supplied as
part of the replacement.  I got it from a real old timer, and I am an
old timer too.  So mine's pretty old.  And worn.  But it works.

You need to find a benevolent old timer.  I will put you in my will,
you can have mine when I die.  (c:  ( may not be too far off (c:  )

Richard

PS, loosing the bits down a hole is the reason you own one of those
super magnet screwdrivers from Autozone.  Bitty magnet, lotsa power.
It will lift a whole timing chain by the end.  Long story, good ending
(c:



--- Van Cleve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Where does one get one of these temporary clip links. I have done
several
T chains and its a PIA to do and undo the regular master link. I
remember a
post sometime back about using a clip style master link from some
other
model (other than a 617/6) for pulling the chain through. I assume
Rusty
would have the link if I knew what to ask for.   One could spoil the
day by
losing all or part of a clip down the hole :'(




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Re: [MBZ] timing chain temp link

2006-04-13 Thread JFreezn
 
In a message dated 4/13/2006 8:15:29 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Where  does one get one of these temporary clip links. I have done several 
T  chains and its a PIA to do and undo the regular master link. I remember a  
post sometime back about using a clip style master link from some other  
model (other than a 617/6) for pulling the chain through. I assume Rusty  
would have the link if I knew what to ask for.   One could spoil  the day by 
losing all or part of a clip down the hole :'(  



Any good hardware store should have them in their assortment boxes.  I  was 
looking at the box at Ace hardware and though I didn't need one, thought  they 
had all the sizes.  I would not hesitate to use the clip type as a  permanent 
clip, as that is what MB used for years.  The opening of the clip  is supposed 
to be at the back of the chain link, looking at the rotation being  CW from 
the front.
 
Regards,  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 262 K miles 
98 ML 320, 141 K  miles



Re: [MBZ] timing chain temp link

2006-04-13 Thread Van Cleve
Well I'm an old guy too so waiting for you to kick off might not be an 
option :-D


Maybe some body remembers that post about a clip from another engine being 
used to pull the chain through, I was gona call Rusty and get oneOh 
well, shoulda, woulda, coulda


Regards
Steve
85 Euro 240D, 5 spd manual, 110K
79 240D, 5 spd manual, 20K on eng rebuild
94 Dodge/Cummins PU, 100K
82 TD project wagon
64 VW Bug
65 D15, AC tractor



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Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 10:27:13 -0700 (PDT)
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I have one from an old chain, back in the days when it was supplied as
part of the replacement.  I got it from a real old timer, and I am an
old timer too.  So mine's pretty old.  And worn.  But it works.

You need to find a benevolent old timer.  I will put you in my will,
you can have mine when I die.  (c:  ( may not be too far off (c:  )

Richard

PS, loosing the bits down a hole is the reason you own one of those
super magnet screwdrivers from Autozone.  Bitty magnet, lotsa power.
It will lift a whole timing chain by the end.  Long story, good ending
(c:



Regards
Steve
85 Euro 240D, 5 spd manual, 110K
79 240D, 5 spd manual, 20K on eng rebuild
94 Dodge/Cummins PU, 100K
82 TD project wagon
64 VW Bug
65 D15, AC tractor 






Re: [MBZ] timing chain temp link

2006-04-13 Thread Van Cleve
MathieuThank you...Thats what I was looking for.  I do stuff rags down 
in that chain cavity in accordance to Murphy's law :-)



Regards
Steve
85 Euro 240D, 5 spd manual, 110K
79 240D, 5 spd manual, 20K on eng rebuild
94 Dodge/Cummins PU, 100K
82 TD project wagon
64 VW Bug
65 D15, AC tractor

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Order a master clip for an m100 car (p/n 0009970598). It will work just
fine. Also, I place many rags in the chain cavity so that if something
should fall, it will land on the rag or fall outside of the motor. This
is critical to do when grinding/breaking the old chain as well as
covering the cam and other open and sensitive areas. Follow the
instructions posted on Dieselgiant's web site. That tutorial was
photographed at my shop.

Mathieu
www.oldworldauto.com





Re: [MBZ] timing chain temp link

2006-04-13 Thread Van Cleve
Huh, I had no idea anything could be found at Ace that would work in such 
a particular application.  I'll have a look see,  Thanks for the tip.


Regards
Steve
85 Euro 240D, 5 spd manual, 110K
79 240D, 5 spd manual, 20K on eng rebuild
94 Dodge/Cummins PU, 100K
82 TD project wagon
64 VW Bug
65 D15, AC tractor

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In a message dated 4/13/2006 8:15:29 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Where  does one get one of these temporary clip links. I have done several
T  chains and its a PIA to do and undo the regular master link. I remember a
post sometime back about using a clip style master link from some other
model (other than a 617/6) for pulling the chain through. I assume Rusty
would have the link if I knew what to ask for.   One could spoil  the day by
losing all or part of a clip down the hole :'(



Any good hardware store should have them in their assortment boxes.  I  was
looking at the box at Ace hardware and though I didn't need one, thought  they
had all the sizes.  I would not hesitate to use the clip type as a  permanent
clip, as that is what MB used for years.  The opening of the clip  is supposed
to be at the back of the chain link, looking at the rotation being  CW from
the front.

Regards,

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 262 K miles