Re: [MBZ] Free flat fixing
MMM plugged a flat tire for me at an OkieQ a couple of years ago. Two, maybe three. Naw, two I think. ... Anyway, I am STILL riding on that tire and his repair has held. *Thank you* MMM. Gotta love a man who has a tire patch kit in his trunk. Another attendee (who shall remain nameless) is so anal that he had a TANK OF AIR in the back of his Benz. *He* needs mental health services (my field). D. On Nov 6, 2007 8:58 PM, Robert Bigham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Thanks, all. I decided to put a plug in the flat tire since I have a > kit. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bio
I disagree (as the father of a Honda Civic hybrid owner). It doesn't have to do with prices. It does involve feeling better, because every gallon of fuel we don't burn lessens the grip on our testicles placed there by OPEC. If I have to pay extra to burn bio then I am willing to do so. Biodiesel? Bring it on. I am a vegetarian so don't care how much corn or soybeans isn't fed to potential dinners. On Nov 8, 2007 7:16 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm saying hybrid buyers and alternate fuel buyers are ignoring prices to > "feel better". > > RLE > > > ** > See what's new at http://www.aol.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bio
The cost of corn has nothing to do with biodiesel. It has everything to do with the cost of ethanol. Here is the drill. The corn grown here is intended to be fed to livestock. It also makes ethanol. Market forces determine where it goes. Soybeans are grown with a similar market. Diesel or pigs, whatever the market says. Don Iowa On Nov 8, 2007 8:48 PM, ernest breakfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > what does the cost of Corn have to do with BioDiesel? -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bio
Try $3.44 a gallon, right in the middle of the Iowa harvest season! On Nov 9, 2007 4:49 AM, David Hemsley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Lastly I get to hum an old Disney "Top Ten" - whistle while I/we work > every > time I pass by a petrol diesel pump listed at $3.19 or higher, or is > that > tune - whistle while I bank.:) > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 5w50
Mobil 1 15-W-50 has worked for me at -20F. The battery gives out way before the oil gets thick. On Nov 8, 2007 11:20 PM, Steve MacSween <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I asked about M1 winter grades a while back and the consensus was more or > less 5w40. However, whoever does the stocking here in Canada sits on their > brains as far as I can tell. 15w40 or 5w40 are not even available on > special > order. Duh. > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] creative writing assignments Re: Buehler, Buehler, Buehler, Anybody?
Dude probably has a B.A. degree in English and is using eBay to put food on the table, given that he was recently fired at Burger King. On Nov 9, 2007 10:09 AM, Zach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Personal pet peeve #45: Nothing says "sleazy douchebag" like clowns who > treat ebay/craigslist/whatever ads like a writing assignment from a > romance literature class. > > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My 300SDL going to Charity Soon
Well ... this list, Banned and Linux. On 11/18/07, Timothy Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Basically, everything is this automatic mail "Discussion List?" > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $$$
You are SO clueless. On 11/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > < make > some $ on this stuff.>> > > As did Ritter. > > RLE > > > > ** > See what's new at http://www.aol.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] famous dave's bbq (plus a little college football)
I grew up a half hour south of WVU. I am a 50+ year Mountaineer fan. Wanna compare notes and BCS stuff? :-) D. I am a Missouri Tiger fan, so things are going very well for us. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] college football
Default banned response. On Nov 21, 2007 1:45 PM, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wow, the peverbial football powerhouse, The Big East Conference. Who does > anyone in your league play?? Your WVU team has 1 loss to S.Florida, who > is primed and ready to fall out of the top 25. How does that deserve a #3 > ranking? Impressive. When's the last time you played a top 10 team? Lets > look and see, #5 Louisville, November 2, 2006, a loss, 44-34. Then back to > October 1, 2005 for a loss to #3 Virginia Tech 34-17. Oh yeah, you did beat > #10 Georgia on January 2, 2006 38-35 for the ONLY victory against a top 10 > team since at least 2001, and probably earlier. Yet every time you squeak > into the top 10, your team finds a way to loose and drop closer to their > true ranking. Your conference is impressively over inflated. > The Big 12? This year, Kansas actually looks ok, and may have a chance > to make it to the National Championship, even though they just barely > squeaked by unranked Colorado, 19-14, and unranked Texas A&M, 19-11. > Sheesh, their 11-0 run has NO top 25 teams. Add that to the fact that > their school is known for choking on the way to a probable national title > game in other sports, nah...they don't have a prayer of making it to the top > game. Kansas will beat Missouri on Saturday, by a touchdown or more in the > Arrowhead Shootout. It might even be a rout of more than 21 points when > both teams will score more than 40 Missouri can't stop the high-powered, > strike-quick Kansas offense. Either way, a miracle, or not, neither > Missouri or Kansas will beat Oklahoma (a real football school) in the Big 12 > title game. Not if OU brings their A gamewhich they have not done every > game all year > > Luther > > On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:14:10 -0600, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > I grew up a half hour south of WVU. I am a 50+ year Mountaineer fan. > > > > Wanna compare notes and BCS stuff? :-) > > > > D. > > > > > > I am a Missouri Tiger fan, so things are going very well for us. > > > > > > -- > Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark > '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case > '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) > '82 300CD (166 kmi) > '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold > '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] college football
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?page=bowlprojections12 On Nov 21, 2007 2:52 PM, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If your scneario plays out then I guess LSU will by default be No. 1 > and they will play Ohio State for all the marbles. > > > On Nov 21, 2007 2:45 PM, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Wow, the peverbial football powerhouse, The Big East Conference. Who > does anyone in your league play?? Your WVU team has 1 loss to S.Florida, > who is primed and ready to fall out of the top 25. How does that deserve a > #3 ranking? Impressive. When's the last time you played a top 10 team? > Lets look and see, #5 Louisville, November 2, 2006, a loss, 44-34. Then > back to October 1, 2005 for a loss to #3 Virginia Tech 34-17. Oh yeah, you > did beat #10 Georgia on January 2, 2006 38-35 for the ONLY victory against a > top 10 team since at least 2001, and probably earlier. Yet every time you > squeak into the top 10, your team finds a way to loose and drop closer to > their true ranking. Your conference is impressively over inflated. > > The Big 12? This year, Kansas actually looks ok, and may have a chance > to make it to the National Championship, even though they just barely > squeaked by unranked Colorado, 19-14, and unranked Texas A&M, 19-11. > Sheesh, their 11-0 run has NO top 25 teams. Add that to the fact that > their school is known for choking on the way to a probable national title > game in other sports, nah...they don't have a prayer of making it to the top > game. Kansas will beat Missouri on Saturday, by a touchdown or more in the > Arrowhead Shootout. It might even be a rout of more than 21 points when > both teams will score more than 40 Missouri can't stop the high-powered, > strike-quick Kansas offense. Either way, a miracle, or not, neither > Missouri or Kansas will beat Oklahoma (a real football school) in the Big 12 > title game. Not if OU brings their A game....which they have not done every > game all year > > > > Luther > > > > On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:14:10 -0600, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > I grew up a half hour south of WVU. I am a 50+ year Mountaineer fan. > > > > > > Wanna compare notes and BCS stuff? :-) > > > > > > D. > > > > > > > > > I am a Missouri Tiger fan, so things are going very well for us. > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark > > '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case > > '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) > > '82 300CD (166 kmi) > > '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold > > '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] college football
My fantasy is way more a redhead (and my wife). :-) D. On 11/21/07, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Don, that's a nice fantasy but it ain't gonna happen. > > > On Nov 21, 2007 8:34 PM, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?page=bowlprojections12 > > > > On Nov 21, 2007 2:52 PM, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > If your scneario plays out then I guess LSU will by default be No. 1 > > > and they will play Ohio State for all the marbles. > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 21, 2007 2:45 PM, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Wow, the peverbial football powerhouse, The Big East > Conference. Who > > > does anyone in your league play?? Your WVU team has 1 loss to > S.Florida, > > > who is primed and ready to fall out of the top 25. How does that > deserve a > > > #3 ranking? Impressive. When's the last time you played a top 10 > team? > > > Lets look and see, #5 Louisville, November 2, 2006, a loss, > 44-34. Then > > > back to October 1, 2005 for a loss to #3 Virginia Tech 34-17. Oh > yeah, you > > > did beat #10 Georgia on January 2, 2006 38-35 for the ONLY victory > against a > > > top 10 team since at least 2001, and probably earlier. Yet every time > you > > > squeak into the top 10, your team finds a way to loose and drop closer > to > > > their true ranking. Your conference is impressively over inflated. > > > > The Big 12? This year, Kansas actually looks ok, and may have a > chance > > > to make it to the National Championship, even though they just barely > > > squeaked by unranked Colorado, 19-14, and unranked Texas A&M, 19-11. > > > Sheesh, their 11-0 run has NO top 25 teams. Add that to the fact > that > > > their school is known for choking on the way to a probable national > title > > > game in other sports, nah...they don't have a prayer of making it to > the top > > > game. Kansas will beat Missouri on Saturday, by a touchdown or more > in the > > > Arrowhead Shootout. It might even be a rout of more than 21 points > when > > > both teams will score more than 40 Missouri can't stop the > high-powered, > > > strike-quick Kansas offense. Either way, a miracle, or not, neither > > > Missouri or Kansas will beat Oklahoma (a real football school) in the > Big 12 > > > title game. Not if OU brings their A gamewhich they have not done > every > > > game all year > > > > > > > > Luther > > > > > > > > On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:14:10 -0600, Wonko the Sane < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I grew up a half hour south of WVU. I am a 50+ year Mountaineer > fan. > > > > > > > > > > Wanna compare notes and BCS stuff? :-) > > > > > > > > > > D. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am a Missouri Tiger fan, so things are going very well for us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark > > > > '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case > > > > '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) > > > > '82 300CD (166 kmi) > > > > '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold > > > > '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > LT Don > > http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ > > Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. > > > > Make a small loan, Make a
Re: [MBZ] question about CD-ROM repair manuals
Most folks just ask a "friend" to "loan" them a CD. Me? I have W123 and W124 verions. Yes, that is a hint. D. On 11/21/07, Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I see them on e-bay for like $35 - seems like they are pirated copies of > the Mercedes CD sold for $100 - is that right? If not, is the stuff scanned > from MB manuals? Are they good? > > ALSO, do the job descriptions give the TIME that it is supposed to take to > complete the job? > > Thanks! > > Chris > > > > > Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri > -1985 300SD, 368K km, "Wulf" > -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 58K miles, "The Behemoth" > -1975 240D manual, 123K, "Projekt-Wagen 1" > > - > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try > it now. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: college football
THANK YOU ARKANSAS! WVU Don. -- Forwarded message -- From: andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Nov 23, 2007 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] college football To: Mercedes Discussion List If LSU loses to ARK then it's an even bigger muddle. On Nov 22, 2007 6:48 AM, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don, you disappoint me. I thought your well trained cranium was sharper and more quick witted. > > Luther > > > On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:33:03 -0600, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Default banned response. > > > > On Nov 21, 2007 1:45 PM, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Wow, the peverbial football powerhouse, The Big East Conference. Who does > >> anyone in your league play?? Your WVU team has 1 loss to S.Florida, who > >> is primed and ready to fall out of the top 25. How does that deserve a #3 > >> ranking? Impressive. When's the last time you played a top 10 team? Lets > >> look and see, #5 Louisville, November 2, 2006, a loss, 44-34. Then back to > >> October 1, 2005 for a loss to #3 Virginia Tech 34-17. Oh yeah, you did beat > >> #10 Georgia on January 2, 2006 38-35 for the ONLY victory against a top 10 > >> team since at least 2001, and probably earlier. Yet every time you squeak > >> into the top 10, your team finds a way to loose and drop closer to their > >> true ranking. Your conference is impressively over inflated. > >> The Big 12? This year, Kansas actually looks ok, and may have a chance > >> to make it to the National Championship, even though they just barely > >> squeaked by unranked Colorado, 19-14, and unranked Texas A&M, 19-11. > >> Sheesh, their 11-0 run has NO top 25 teams. Add that to the fact that > >> their school is known for choking on the way to a probable national title > >> game in other sports, nah...they don't have a prayer of making it to the top > >> game. Kansas will beat Missouri on Saturday, by a touchdown or more in the > >> Arrowhead Shootout. It might even be a rout of more than 21 points when > >> both teams will score more than 40 Missouri can't stop the high-powered, > >> strike-quick Kansas offense. Either way, a miracle, or not, neither > >> Missouri or Kansas will beat Oklahoma (a real football school) in the Big 12 > >> title game. Not if OU brings their A gamewhich they have not done every > >> game all year > >> > >> Luther > >> > >> On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:14:10 -0600, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > I grew up a half hour south of WVU. I am a 50+ year Mountaineer fan. > >> > > >> > Wanna compare notes and BCS stuff? :-) > >> > > >> > D. > >> > > >> > > >> > I am a Missouri Tiger fan, so things are going very well for us. > >> > > >> > -- > Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark > '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case > '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) > '82 300CD (166 kmi) > '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold > '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Free anti-virus?
I have an acquaintenance who owns a computer repair shop here in our small town. He told me just last week that 90% of his business was rebuilding trashed (virus) systems that ran AVG antivirus. I think ClamAV has been ported from Linux to windows. Still free but frequently updated. It does not do real-time virus checking but instead is intended to be scheduled for scans. On 11/24/07, Dave H... <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Try AVG. > > I love the security it provides, and as equally despise Norton for the > same > reason you mention, but I have had it for so long I just cannot remember > if > it was a freebie or if I had to pay. But, even if I did have to pay I can > assure you that it updates daily and I have never paid more than once. > > Sorry :( I can't be more explicit. > > > Dave H... > > -- > From: "Curt Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 5:38 PM > To: "Diesel List" > Subject: [MBZ] Free anti-virus? > > > I know you get what you pay for but I also know the best things in life > > are free. > > Anybody got a line on free anti-virus? My folk's machine has Vista and > > Norton but now Norton is crying for more money, not only will it not > > update but it won't work at all unless they pay (lechers). I'm ready to > > find something open source for them.. > > > > -Curt > > > > > > - > > Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your > homepage. > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] just saw the Boston Pops...
Ask Luther what our B.A. degrees are in. :-) Don On 11/25/07, Robert Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ahhh Luther...and I thought I was one of the few male humans on the earth > who would miss precious before-nights-nap-time for music played live. > You now officially rock on another level. > > Bob R. > Music/Arts'nuf said > LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] just saw the Boston Pops...
There are others. :-) On 11/25/07, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Luther has a degree in music --- > > On Nov 25, 2007 5:29 PM, Robert Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ahhh Luther...and I thought I was one of the few male humans on the > earth > > who would miss precious before-nights-nap-time for music played live. > > You now officially rock on another level. > > > > Bob R. > > Music/Arts'nuf said > > > > -- > OK Don, KD5NRO > Norman, OK > "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." > -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours
Can she be taught to pull Benz parts for sale on eBay? On Nov 30, 2007 2:59 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know the oldest is 9, and has never set foot in a school a day in her > life. > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours
Actually, I did lose one briefly at the Iowa State Fair a couple of years ago. The paperwork for that (if I had not found him) is really ugly! "Hey, he is his own guardian and he wanted to join the carnival, so " On 11/30/07, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I can see you "losing" a consumer the other way. > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours
Hendrik:
I was going to let that one pass w/out reply but have decided to not do so.
Humor is an excellent tool in helping to de-escalate tense situations. It is
a good tool for dealing with grief -- something that the list is dealing
with on several fronts.
If Kaleb and Regina were only names on my email list, I wouldn't be so bold
as to try to defuse the tension with humor. Fortunately, I know Kaleb and
Regina well enough, and they know me well enough, that I can say what I said
and know that it will make Kaleb (and probably Regina) have a moment of
chuckle in the midst of unspeakable grief.
This has been a bad week for all of us. We've lost Marshall and I am
honestly still trying to come to grips with that. I was one of a handful
with whom he shared how bad things were and the prognosis. Regina has had a
tragedy, and I know enough of the background to somewhat understand. On top
of that, I lost one of my consumers ("lost" as in she died, not
"lost" as in she wandered away from staff and we can't find her) on Wednesday.
So ... I honestly believe that humor can go a long way toward fixing things.
I've used it to de-escalate psychotic consumers. I've used it to make MR
consumers know that it isn't socially appropriate to do X, when he/she sees
nothing wrong with doing X.
I can understand that from a distance you might think what I said was not
appropritate. Fortunately, I think given the facts (especially regarding
Kaleb and his "hobby") and my relation with Kaleb/Regina, it was in good
taste.
Of course, I am sometimes wrong and I have an ex to prove it! :-)
Don
On 11/30/07, Hendrik & Fay < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I really don't think this is an situation where humor is welcome.
Wonko the Sane wrote:
> Can she be taught to pull Benz parts for sale on eBay?
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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours
You betcha. Even in central Maine (the area with which I am familiar). On 11/30/07, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You know if he was out and about, Maine has lots of really remote > wilderness, a guy could lose himself up there really easily if he wanted > to get away. > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Marshall remembrances
Has everyone signed the Guest Book? http://www.legacy.com/PostGazette/GB/GuestbookView.aspx?PersonId=98788905&PageNo=5 On 11/30/07, Kevin Kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mobil 1 and new fuses all around > > And drive it like you stole it so the carbon doesn't build up again! > > Kevin in Hillsboro, OR > 1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Marshall
How about if we offer to buy his library (via a donation to charity), rather than letting R/E "dispose" of it? I will be happy to house it at my place. :-) D. On 11/30/07, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well we need to outdo what any other list may or may not do. Lets get > it done. > > OK Don wrote: > > I'm in favor of all the above -- since I can't find suitable words now. > > > > On Nov 30, 2007 9:05 PM, Dave H... <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I am all in favor of the CD and the scholarship. > >> > > > > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, > 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, > 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, > 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 > http://www.okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours
What? Let YOU go? On Nov 30, 2007 3:28 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So the cops let me go till they investigate to determine if it was or not. > > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: [Banned] Marshall died
I would suggest a contribution to either NPR or WQED, in his name. On Nov 29, 2007 4:09 PM, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We could compile all his posting and edit them into book form. > Proceeds could be used to set up a scholarship for diesel benz > mechanics. > > Or donate funds to some sort of musical thing. Maybe LT Don and > Luther can figure out what. > > clay > > On 29 Nov 2007, at 11:37, Loren Faeth wrote: > > > Somebody want to take up a collection via paypal and we can send > > flowers or make a memorial contribution? > > > > Loren > > > > At 01:31 PM 11/29/2007, you wrote: > >> http://www.legacy.com/PostGazette/Obituaries.asp? > >> Page=LifeStory&PersonId=98788905 > >> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > Loren Faeth > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Winter Weather
Ugly but managable. Worst inconvenience so far was when the local ABC affiliate kept dropping signal all thru the Virginia Tech football game! ... About 1/2 inch of ice and then a couple inches of snow on top of it. I was able to make it to Fareway for fixings to brew up a crock pot full of corn chowder for supper. Perhaps I will be the only one to find this amusing, but a church in Fort Dodge cancelled its "Faith Festival" this evening beause of the roads. *"Lord, we have faith -- but not enough faith to drive to the church in this weather!"* On 12/1/07, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Much of Iowa was hit with snow, sleet and freezing rain. > > > So, how are things going there Don? > > > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Winter Weather
All glow plugs working? Synthetic (Mobil 1 15-W-50 for me) oil? Valves properly adjusted? Did you crank until it started *or* the battery died? Don On 12/1/07, EDWARD DENNIS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi all, > May I ask a Winter start question? > > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Winter Weather
A trick that has served me well is this: pre-glow one or (if it is really cold) two times, hit they key, press the "go" pedal, and don't stop cranking until either the engine starts or the battery quits. That has served me well down to -20F (w/ block heater). After fifteen or twenty seconds (sometimes closer to 60), the engine comes to life. >From what I'm told, you *are not* going to damage the starter doing this. On 12/1/07, EDWARD DENNIS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > Yes > Maybe > Not sure-quiet as of now and Log time on the appearance of the vc seal. > 2-3 tries and went to the block heater. The Suburban started and off > (swmbo) left. > Ed in cold wet Chicago > > Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All glow plugs working? > Synthetic (Mobil 1 15-W-50 for me) oil? > Valves properly adjusted? > Did you crank until it started *or* the battery died? > > Don > > > On 12/1/07, EDWARD DENNIS wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > May I ask a Winter start question? > > > > > > > -- > LT Don > http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ > Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. > > Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Winter Weather
You didn't inherit the capital letter thing, did you? :-) On 12/1/07, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > TO make sure that the car will start ... > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Winter Weather
That is redundant. :-) On 12/1/07, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > FWIW - everything I know, I learned from Marshall Booth (or reading > the manual) - > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] the latest word
At least back in the 70s and 80s, there were a lot of these "commune" places in Maine. There was one just down the road (actually, next dirt road in from the highway) from where my ex grew up. If you want to see the lifestyle, do a google search (pics) on Athens, Maine. Don On 12/1/07, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is the latest I have seen online about it. Apparantly big news up > there. > > http://bangornews.com/news/t/penobscot.aspx?articleid=157212&zoneid=183 > > > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, > 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, > 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, > 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 > http://www.okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, HDTV again
Kleb: Wait a couple of years. You will spend half the money and will buy what is (then) industry standard. Remember the BetaMax? (Maybe not.) On Dec 1, 2007 10:59 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, so I think I am about to buy a TV, have decided on DLP I think. > Should I buy a HD DVD player as well, or in the near future? I guess > its still up in the air as far as HD DVD or Blue Ray. The HD is cheaper. > I also have noticed standard DVD players that upconvert to the 1080 I > guess. At the min would one of these be necessary to get the best > picture from a regular dvd on an HDTV? Or will my 3 or 4 year old DVD > player do this? > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, > 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, > 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, > 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 > http://www.okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Winter Weather
My experience has been to give the car to the shop the day before, let it sit overnight in the shop, and they do the adjustment on a cold engine. But ... I do have a spare diesel car and a motorcycle, too, so am in a "good" position to lose a car for a day. On 12/2/07, EDWARD DENNIS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > Not a spec for hot or cold? > Ed > > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, HD again, has anybody ever jewed down a big box store?
Kaleb thinks "politically correct" means insulting the correct group. On 12/2/07, Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I believe the preferred term is "hebrew-american" > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, HD again, has anybody ever jewed down a big box store?
Yea-but ...
Having been an ass('t) manager of a department store, I appreciate that the
important thing isn't discounts, it is daily sales. A lost sale is a lost
sale. HQ doesn't care how it happens. All that shows up on the computer is
that you sold the tv, not what it sold for.
By the way, what the hell does this have to do with owning a Mercedes?
:-)))
D.
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> being an a/v retailerthe margins are NOT huge !?
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> any time it is a big ticket item and you are willing to actually buy it,
> you
> can negotiate in most places. often, if they can't drop the price on the
> item, they can give you other stuff to make it worth your while. maybe
> not
> at costco, but i'd be pretty confident anywhere else. as it was
> advertised
> at that price just prior, i'd think it even easier as they have proven
> they
> can make the sale at that price.
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> these managers are under pressure to make sales numbers. back when i had
> money, i was on the short list of people to call at a certain watch store
> when sales were short at the end of the month. in stores such as these,
> profit margins are outlandish and they could sell me stuff cheaply enough
> that i could wear it for a few months and the mark it up 10% and turn it
> on
> ebay.
>
> i bought my elliptical on similar terms. 20% of the regular selling price
> plus the store manager drives it to me and sets it up. i told him to call
> me whenever he needed the sale and a few days later these terms were
> acceptable.
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> again, the margins are insane and there is so much room to move for them.
> but it has to be at a time when they "need" the sales.
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> On Dec 2, 2007 9:09 PM, John M McIntosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > On Dec 2, 2007, at 3:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
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> > > Well I figured out which TV I thought I might want.
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> > Although we hate Consumer Reports for their Mercedes reviews, they
> > *do* point out yes you can
> > negotiate a better deal on items at your box store. Given that in a
> > given geographical region a manufacture might have
> > a dozen vendors selling the item all at the same or different price
> > points, then really greed enters the equation.
> >
> > Unless of course the item isn't available etc.
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Re: [MBZ] marshall booth photo
If he did, it was most likely a trike. On Dec 3, 2007 5:21 PM, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Did Marshall ride a Harley? > > Allan > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunil's 240D
You should have put the manuals on the driver's seat before taking the photo. ;-) On Dec 2, 2007 10:55 PM, Rick Knoble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The price is dropping. He started at $1100. > http://columbus.craigslist.org/car/496365085.html > > Rick Knoble > '85 300 CD > '87 190 DT > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] marshall booth photo
No problem ... we are happy to learn that you live in Camden. (The only Camden I know of is in Maine.) On Dec 3, 2007 7:57 PM, Dave H... <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > sorry folks I answered a previous email and somehow had clicked on this > thread. :( > > Dave H... > > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pacific NW Gets Battered By Storms
That is scheduled to visit Iowa on Wednesday. On Dec 3, 2007 8:17 PM, Rick Knoble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hope all you guys in the Northwest are okay > http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,314821,00.html > > Rick Knoble > '85 300 CD > '87 190 DT > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Winter Weather
Yea-but Write back when it gets back to the teens. My 240D starts needing the "long start cycle" at about +15F, like it has been almost all day. Takes about 10 seconds to fire off. At -20F I pray frequently and make sure my big-arse jump pack is charged up, especially if I can't plug it in at the office. During the prayer I thank heaven for Mobil 1. On Dec 3, 2007 8:24 PM, EDWARD DENNIS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > Sunday at 43F and Monday at 26F I followed the letter of the start method > and no problems. > Tuesday I am getting the Valves adjusted. > Ed in Chicago 28F > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] USCG propoganda
Some pretty cool wallpapers here. http://uscg.mil/top/downloads/desktops.asp D. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, HD again, has anybody ever jewed down a big box store?
PBS, CNN and (at the moment) ESPN. Of course, the wife is curled up in the spare bedroom / alternate tv room watching CBS's brain dead comedies. On Dec 3, 2007 9:54 AM, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wow, all this technology, and I still don't own a tv. > > Luther > > On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:49:48 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Well now I am probably going to have to upgrade my receiver also. It > > has dolby digital 5.1, dts etc with optical imput. Apparantly you need > > a receiver with the HDMI (or whatever its called) imputs to get the full > > HD Dolby whatever is on HD DVD's. I guess that will be next on my list. > > So far it looks great. Even standard DVD's in the HD player look much > > better. Or maybe its just because I was used to my old worn out TV. > > Saturday they come to install my dish network HD boxes. I need to go to > > the store tomorrow and buy another optical cable for the sat box and an > > antenna to get over the air local HD channels. > > > > > > > > -- > Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark > '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case > '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) > '82 300CD (166 kmi) > '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold > '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pacific NW Gets Battered By Storms
yep ... except it is cold wet air waiting for colder air. On Dec 3, 2007 8:44 PM, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is some warm wet air around you waiting for this nice cold low > pressure front? > > clay > > On 3 Dec 2007, at 18:36, Wonko the Sane wrote: > > > That is scheduled to visit Iowa on Wednesday. > > > > On Dec 3, 2007 8:17 PM, Rick Knoble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Hope all you guys in the Northwest are okay > >> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,314821,00.html > >> > >> Rick Knoble > >> '85 300 CD > >> '87 190 DT > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > LT Don > > http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ <http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/> > > Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. > > > > Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] marshall booth photo
Ya know, for all we joke about the man (and he was indeed a living parody of himself), he was really a valuable resource. I think he had a photographic memory and retained much of what he read in the manuals. I should be so lucky -- I stick post-it notes to my computer monitor at work on Friday afternoons so I know what to do the following Monday morning. Only once did he tell me he had to research the answer to a question, but he fired the answer back in a very timely manner (after consulting the manuals). In one of my last off-list emails to him, not long before the end, I asked if we could perhaps dump his brain to DVD. He seemed to get a chuckle out of that and said that he'd unfortunately under-lived that technology but wished he could. Looking back at his obit, I realized that he worked at a theater place in DC that I passed every day going to and from work. Wish I'd known then what I knew now, for I could have easily pulled into the parking lot and had a chat with him about the car I'd own a decade in the future. Sorry, a Dr. Who moment there. D. On Dec 3, 2007 9:11 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No, if they fuses are more than five years old, or if you don't know how > old the fuses are, REPLACE the fuses. See, the spirit of A. Marshall Booth > lives on. > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] murder update
Talking Maine is really pretty easy once you understand the basic rules. 1. Anywhere an R belongs, remove it. (ca', pa'k, ga'age, chu'ch) 2. Anywhere an R does NOT belong, add it. (warsh -- this is also found in Iowa) 3. Always say "son of a whore" rather than "son of a bitch." 4. Love the New England Patriots and the Boston Red Socks. These rules served me well through two decades of being married to a Maine girl (my ex). D. On Dec 4, 2007 10:24 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BTW, I talked to Regina's dad tonight (what I could understand with the > maine accent etc), > LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] murder update
Sorry ... unintentional typo. On Dec 5, 2007 7:10 PM, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That is Red SOX That right there is a hanging offense in Bahston if > they don't beat you to death first, ya mawron! > > --R > > Wonko the Sane wrote: > > Talking Maine is really pretty easy once you understand the basic rules. > > > > 1. Anywhere an R belongs, remove it. (ca', pa'k, ga'age, chu'ch) > > 2. Anywhere an R does NOT belong, add it. (warsh -- this is also found > in > > Iowa) > > 3. Always say "son of a whore" rather than "son of a bitch." > > 4. Love the New England Patriots and the Boston Red Socks. > > > > These rules served me well through two decades of being married to a > Maine > > girl (my ex). > > > > D. > > > > > > On Dec 4, 2007 10:24 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> BTW, I talked to Regina's dad tonight (what I could understand with the > >> maine accent etc), > >> > >> > > > > > > LT Don > > http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ <http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/> > > Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. > > > > Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] murder update
I am not in Maine. I am bi-lingual. On Dec 5, 2007 7:44 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Wonko the Sane wrote: > > > 1. Anywhere an R belongs, remove it. (ca', pa'k, ga'age, chu'ch) > > 2. Anywhere an R does NOT belong, add it. (warsh -- this is also found > in > > Iowa) > > 3. Always say "son of a whore" rather than "son of a bitch." > > In rule #3, you already violated rule #1. > In the book "M*A*S*H Goes to Maine", I believe the usage was > "Son of a hoah". > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Funeral and kids
Your turn? Shall we do even and odd years? On Dec 6, 2007 6:17 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > speaking of meals, I think we are going to have to do an OkieQ this year. > > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] hard wiring glow plugs
About this time of year, my glow plug system gets a mind of its own. Even Marshall was never able to figure it out via theoretical troubleshooting. After the temp gets into the low teens, the glow plug light functions only intermittently. Sometimes it lights up and sometimes it doesn't. I *think* the plugs are working, because last year I had a voltmeter hooked up and I could see the load when the plugs are on. (For those who might be wondering, I've experienced same symptoms on two different glow plug relays.) When the light didn't work yesterday, I pre-glowed for 45 seconds and then cranked until it started. The car had been warmed up on the ride to work but had cooled down some during the four hours of sitting in the parking lot. Here's what I am thinking of doing: hard wire +12VDC to the glow plugs and install a switch so I can manually control the duration of pre-glow (and know that it is indeed getting heat to the plugs). Weren't some of the pre-W123 diesels wired up this way? This would be a winter-only modification, going back to using the glow plug relay during the non-winter months. Anyone done this before? What sort of switch should I use? How heavy of a wire? -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] hard wiring glow plugs
W123 240D. On Dec 7, 2007 10:04 AM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What car? > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] hard wiring glow plugs
You are a very creative and intelligent man, Craig. Great idea. That would bypass whatever portion of the glow plug relay that says "light up the lightbulb." On Dec 7, 2007 9:09 AM, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That said, a better solution might be to put a bulb (or LED w/resistor) in > one of the unused light locations in the lower strip of the instrument > cluster and wire it to one of the glow plugs and ground. It would > illuminate when the glow plugs have power. > > > Craig -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] hard wiring glow plugs
Wow, that is unlike me. Two bloopers in the same sentence. In fairness to me, I was being distracted by an intercom question while keyboarding. On Dec 7, 2007 12:12 PM, Bill Ringgold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > -Original Message- > From: "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <<< I am now in "winter survival" mode, since I love close enough to my > office to work to work if necessary but don't really want to do so. >>>> > > There could be some sort of Freudian slip in there but you deserve the > benefit of the doubt. The really scary thing for me is that you type better > than I do. > BillR > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] hard wiring glow plugs
I've been hangin' around in here for so many years that most folks *know*that I have a '77 240D. As for troubleshooting the problem, I've spent scores of hours and lots of bandwidth in past years trying to figure out what's happening. I am now in "winter survival" mode, since I love close enough to my office to work to work if necessary but don't really want to do so. Also, the fact that the problem is intermittent and only happens when it is so cold that troubleshooting isn't an appealing prospect helps to complicate things. Whatever is happening is definitely temperature related and it only happens in "ugly" temps. :-) On Dec 7, 2007 11:14 AM, Doug Quance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > BTW, Marshall would admonish you for not telling us the car. :-) > > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] hard wiring glow plugs
THAT is what I'm talkin' about. Hey, my motorcycle actually has four carbs instead of fuel injection. I am an "old school" sort of guy. On 12/7/07, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The old cars like Gump just have the yank on it to glow knob. > Requires some subjective calculations to determine the effective > amount of pre-glow needed. At times it will go through three pre- > glow cycles before feeling that enough electrons have gathered to > create critical mass. Combustion follows. > > clay > > > On 7 Dec 2007, at 06:50, Wonko the Sane wrote: > > > About this time of year, my glow plug system gets a mind of its > > own. Even > > Marshall was never able to figure it out via theoretical > > troubleshooting. > > > > After the temp gets into the low teens, the glow plug light > > functions only > > intermittently. Sometimes it lights up and sometimes it doesn't. > > > > I *think* the plugs are working, because last year I had a > > voltmeter hooked > > up and I could see the load when the plugs are on. (For those who > > might be > > wondering, I've experienced same symptoms on two different glow plug > > relays.) When the light didn't work yesterday, I pre-glowed for 45 > > seconds > > and then cranked until it started. The car had been warmed up on > > the ride to > > work but had cooled down some during the four hours of sitting in the > > parking lot. > > > > Here's what I am thinking of doing: hard wire +12VDC to the glow > > plugs and > > install a switch so I can manually control the duration of pre-glow > > (and > > know that it is indeed getting heat to the plugs). Weren't some of the > > pre-W123 diesels wired up this way? This would be a winter-only > > modification, going back to using the glow plug relay during the > > non-winter > > months. > > > > Anyone done this before? What sort of switch should I use? How > > heavy of a > > wire? > > > > > > > > -- > > LT Don > > http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ > > Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. > > > > Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: John.. You still around??
I bumped (literally) into Dubya during his first campaign, in Des Moines. He was there about to give a speech and I was there for a mental health conference. I should'a had Dubya come to me to MY half of the hotel. For those of you who have met me (several), Dubya comes up about to my arm pit. From the looks of Johnny B in that pic, Kucinich could kick his ass! On Dec 7, 2007 11:03 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John is a short small little dude. > > Wonko the Sane wrote: > > Johnny w/ Dubya is like seeing ... well, I don't know, Johnny seemed to > be > > much taller in his posts. > > > > :-) > > > > D. (tall) > > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, > 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, > 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, > 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 > http://www.okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Christmas Fund
Were you checking emails today at all? I want to bypass the glow plug relay and hot-wire glow plugs to 12VDC during the winter months so I control the glow time. On Dec 7, 2007 11:01 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ohhh, what do you need that for might I ask? I will look and see. You > need the know switch assembly? > > Wonko the Sane wrote: > > Glow plug "pull knob" from a 115. > > > > On Dec 7, 2007 10:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> no > >> > >> Wonko the Sane wrote: > >>> Kleb: > >>> > >>> Do you know from my posts today what part I need? (Hint: not W123.) > >>> > >>> D. > >> -- > >> Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > >> 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, > >> 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, > >> 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, > >> 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > > > > > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, > 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, > 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, > 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 > http://www.okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: John.. You still around??
Johnny w/ Dubya is like seeing ... well, I don't know, Johnny seemed to be much taller in his posts. :-) D. (tall) On Dec 7, 2007 10:16 PM, Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don, > > Let's try this. > > Again. This ain't a political statement... Just > Johnny B with a friend of his.. > > Chuck, > > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: John Berryman and GW DR-1699-KS.JPG > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 72371 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071207/9bb5fdfa/attachment.jpe > ---------- next part -- > > On Dec 7, 2007, at 8:30 PM, Wonko the Sane wrote: > > > Where's the photo? > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More light in instrument clusters
Solder a jumper across the rhesotat. Much easier and works great. Gets stuff bright. On 12/6/07, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 22:22:14 -0500 Timothy Robinson > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I haven't gotten around to it, but there are very few things I won't run > > through the dishwasher! Couldn't hurt on the lense. You are right about > > those bulbs though! I'm just getting started on instrument panels! > > For those of you who have really dim W123 lights, you might want to line > the light pipe and the bulb compartment with aluminum foil. The pictures > attached show the process. The only difficult, fiddly thing is prying off > the light pipe covers without breaking anything. It can be done. As > someone told me about wheel bearings, you have all day to do it. > > With these modifications, my W123 instrument cluster lights are more than > adequately bright. > > > > Craig > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: instrument.cluster.lighting.1.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 161907 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071206/2281d279/attachment.jpg > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: instrument.cluster.lighting.2.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 170839 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071206/2281d279/attachment-0001.jpg > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: instrument.cluster.lighting.3.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 136794 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071206/2281d279/attachment-0002.jpg > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Christmas Fund
Kleb: Do you know from my posts today what part I need? (Hint: not W123.) D. On 12/7/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thank you Tom. I would have never expected you or anyone else to help out > but it would certainly be appreciated. And, if somebody just wants to buy > parts, that would also help indirectly. > > --- > Kaleb C. Striplin > Cox Auto Trader > 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor > > - Original Message - > From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" > Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 7:40 AM > Subject: [MBZ] Kaleb Christmas Fund > > > >I know that Kaleb would never ask for such a thing so I will ask for him. > > > > > > > > As any of you who have followed the thread know, they are about to > inherit > > three small children and Christmas is around the corner. > > > > > > > > I'm about to send him a $20.00 "Christmas Present" and challenge each & > > every one of you to give something to cover the cost of his Wife & 3 new > > kids travel home & to cover their added Christmas expenses. > > > > > > > > Kaleb's PayPal email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Tom Hargrave > > > > www.kegkits.com > > > > 256-656-1924 > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 'Hard' starts on a cold engine
If you are sure all of the glow plugs are fine, that is what I would start with. You are not using "thick in the cold temps oil" are you? Assume the starter is spinning fast enough? On Dec 7, 2007 3:37 PM, Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does this sound like symptoms of needing a valve > adjustment? I suppose I need to leave it there overnight and let him see > it > in the morning. Other suggestions? > > Thanks all - BillR > > 1981 300SD 297k miles > > Jacksonville FL > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Funeral and kids
You will need birth certificates to do that. Welcome to my world ! On Dec 7, 2007 11:48 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At this point, we are not even sure if they have ss# or not. May have to > apply for all that. > > > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Christmas Fund
Glow plug "pull knob" from a 115. On Dec 7, 2007 10:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > no > > Wonko the Sane wrote: > > Kleb: > > > > Do you know from my posts today what part I need? (Hint: not W123.) > > > > D. > > > > > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, > 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, > 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, > 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 > http://www.okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: John.. You still around??
Where's the photo? On Dec 6, 2007 8:41 PM, Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi to the list. > > Here is the reply from Johnny B. aka John Berryman of FEMA Fame... > > Still has the same email address of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Still looking for "Cheap Charlie" Huff and John Huntemann > > May all your wishes come true... > > Be safe and healthy, > > Chuck > Phoenix AZ > > PS... No political comments!!! > > > > > Chuck, > > I'm still alive and well. I have been very active doing my work > > for FEMA, in fact I recently returned home from San Diego where I > > was deployed to assist in the recovery process of folks affected by > > the recent fires. > > I often think about all the folks on the mailing lists. I just > > don't have the time to be active on the mailing lists. Between FEMA > > deployments, I keep myself busy performing many unrelated functions > > as well as assisting in the training of other Disaster Housing > > Inspectors. > > It's nice to know that I am remembered and missed. Give my best to > > all and also my wishes for all to have a wonderful holiday season. > > > > Here's a photo that you can pass around if you so desire. It was > > taken by a Whitehouse photographer on May 9 2007 in Greensburg Ks > > at the Disaster Recovery Center set up by FEMA. The photo I am > > sending was sent via e-mail to my supervisor and forwarded to me. I > > was also sent the original photo, stamped on the back from the > > Whitehouse, which shows a little more detail of the Secret Service > > guys in our immediate vicinity. > > > > >  > > > > > > Thanks for staying in touch, > > Johnny B. > > I Mac Therefore I am > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Funeral and kids and then some!
Forgive me for not trimming my post -- difficult to do on this old laptop.
Here is the situation as I see it. We lost Marshall, and will admit that I
got a little emotional. We had exchanged emails during the last months --
blatently honest -- and although I knew the end was coming, the end was
still not easy.
Now, we have a new situation. Three young kids who were born into what is by
definition a bad situation.
I suggest we honor Marshall,
an educator of diverse talents, by rearing a new generation, three recent
additons to OkieLand
with dozens of step-grandparents (all of whom smell slightly of #2
diesel and Mobil 1).
I loved Marshall (in a non-gay sort of way) and can think of no better
legacy to him than channeling our efforts to the next generation. Marshall
was by no means a shallow man -- he understood that we are all temporal and
it is the next generation that has to carry on, and they have to be trained
to change their fuses.
Money diverted to cancer research is important. By gene pool, I will most
likely die of that. But anything we can contribute there is a drop in the
bucket, while real dollars can change some young lives who have endured more
already than I have in 5+ decades (and my life has been sort of ugly at
times).
D.
On 12/7/07, Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> T,
>
> You have come to understand in a short time that this MB community is
> just that ... A community that is willing to share feelings and
> information beyond the span of our arms..
>
> The roots go back many years! I would like to offer my personal wish
> to remember Kathy Kennel and her great contribution to all Mercedes-
> Benz owners.
>
> Thanks to all of us for our devotion to maintaining our Mercedes-Benz
> automobiles and may we all have a Joyous Holiday Season and
> successful New Year...
>
> Take care, be safe and stay healthy..
>
> Chuck
> Phoenix AZ
> On Dec 7, 2007, at 7:04 PM, Timothy Robinson wrote:
>
> > IMHO... I'm new here. In previous week I've read about this man,
> > Marshall
> > whom I never "met" but learned was an exceptional person. He must
> > have been,
> > especially since all of you guys are united in quoting him..
> > ("CHANGE THE
> > FUSES").
> >
> > Just as he seemed (I gather) to have been quite an influence and
> > contributor
> > to this list, a mentor, seeing you guys rally around Kaileb and
> > Regina kinda
> > makes me feel that in a way you guys are perpetuating the spirit of
> > Marshall.
> >
> > SO... in being supportive of this couple in OK, their kids and the
> > three new
> > additions to their family, aren't you indeed paying quite a tribute to
> > Marshall?
> >
> > My humble opinion.
> >
> > Thanks
> > T
> >
> >> From: Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List
> >> Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 17:23:29 -0800
> >> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Funeral and kids
> >>
> >> Ok, Shut up and just allow us to do something for somebody we all
> >> like on this list. We feel like crap for not being able to do
> >> anything of personal virtue about Marshall, it pains us that Regina
> >> has suffered a huge loss, and this is our way of doing something, no
> >> matter how small. When something shows up in the account, ignore it,
> >> just let it gather interest. One day soon you will find a burning
> >> need for it (sooner than you imagine) and there will be some of the
> >> love and support from the folks on this list to help you meet that
> >> need.
> >>
> >> clay
> >>
> >> On 7 Dec 2007, at 06:26, Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
> >>
> >>> If something shows up in my paypal account, I wont turn it down but
> >>> I just
> >>> have this thing about taking handouts so to speak. Nothing wrong
> >>> with it
> >>> but I just dont like to have to do it. Also, I dont really know
> >>> what all
> >>> they/we will need, or what help, if any, may come from other
> >>> sources.
> >>>
> >>> ---
> >>> Kaleb C. Striplin
> >>> Cox Auto Trader
> >>> 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor
> >>>
> >>> - Original Message -
> >>> From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> To: "'OK Don'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Mercedes Discussion List'"
> >>>
> >>> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 7:04 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Funeral and kids
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Are you suggesting a Kaleb relief fund? Better yet, does he have a
> >>> PayPal account that some of us can deposit $$$ into for
> >>> Christmas. No
> >>> one needs to keep count. Those who want to can just deposit.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks, Tom
> >>> 256-656-1924
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ___
> >>> http://www.okiebenz.com
> >>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
> >>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>
> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >>
> >>
> >> ___
> >> http://www.okiebenz.com
> >>
Re: [MBZ] IowaQ quotes
My 240D has the perfect go-in-the-snow (and ice) system -- take the foot off of the brake and idle down the road until you achieve forward progress. On Dec 7, 2007 5:26 PM, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Funny. > > Alas, traction control and anti-lock brakes - training wheels for cars. > > Brian > > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speaking of garages....
In Iowa, those ain't no stinkin' garages, those are Morton Buildings. One stores tractors and combines in them. Now, HERE's a garage. http://don.homelinux.net/~don/snow/garage1.jpg (Actually, it looks a whole lot like that right now -- the white stuff!) You will note the List Liberal flying the American Flag.:-) On Dec 7, 2007 10:20 PM, Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > Here is a pic, if it gets thru, of the garage my daughter and her > husband have built in Arvada, CO. > > No Benz content. They are Chebbie devotees... Needs > doors, electricity, and lifts... but got the roof on before the > snow > > Happy Holidays... > > Chuck > > > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Dec 5 004.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 684225 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071207/4ebf282d/attachment.jpg > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] hard wiring glow plugs
Yea, but it did it when I had the loop plugs in and now with the pencil-style plugs in. Maybe if I installed the relay that came with the conversion kit ... hmmm . On Dec 7, 2007 2:23 PM, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Isn't this 240 been upgraded to the 5cyl type glow system > > > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] hard wiring glow plugs
The truth is that we were in a residential section where most of the intersections are uncontrolled -- locals know to always glance to the right (and to the left) at an intersection since the driver on the right has right-of-way. I didn't want anyone speeding up (even to just 40 mph in a 25 mph zone) trying to stay on my tail, especially when non-Iowa drivers wouldn't expect to get t-boned at any given intersection. City folks might expect traffic coming at right angles to have a stop sign or at least a yield sign. It isn't like that here. On Dec 7, 2007 3:07 PM, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No Luther, you mis-understood. They would have been lost in the smoke > screen. > > Randy > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Luther > Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 2:51 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] hard wiring glow plugs > > > Speaking of "the car"here's a quote from IowaQ. > Me > "do you have this thing floored?" > Don > "No, I didn't want to loose the people behind me." > > Note, the people behind us were: Regina, driving a w140 420SEL and Kaleb > in John Robins '91? 300D 2.5. There's no > way a 240D at full throttle could loose either of those drivers in those > cars-especially in the 12 block town of > Jefferson, IA! :D > > Luther > > On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 11:14:01 -0600, Doug Quance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Don: I really think your time and energy would be better served by > trouble shooting the existing system. > > > > BTW, Marshall would admonish you for not telling us the car. :-) > > > > I am guessing a late 123? > > > >> I *think* the plugs are working, because last year I had a voltmeter > hooked > >> up and I could see the load when the plugs are on. > > A voltmeter is inadequate to test glow plugs. An ohmmeter will give you > some indication, but the ultimate test > is a dc current meter in series with the individual plugs and connected to > the battery. > > I use an old dash type current meter, as you need it to read up to about > 25 amps. > > > > When your problem occurs it is not clear if the car starts ok or is the > flaky light bothering you? > > > > On both of the relays did you thoroughly check or replace the fuse? > > > > > > > > > > -- > Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark > '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case > '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) > '82 300CD (166 kmi) > '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold > '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] IowaQ quotes
Wonder why they didn't put one of those on a 240D? :-) On Dec 7, 2007 3:07 PM, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My personal favorite is when Regina figured out what the exclamation > point indicator meant in the W140. > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cleaning all day
How does the garage look? On Dec 8, 2007 4:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have spent all day throwing crap away, picking crap up etc. The house > is a pit. I have spent a great part of it cleaning out my office. For > those who have seen my office, know what Im talking about. > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, > 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, > 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, > 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 > http://www.okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cleaning all day
Just don't look in the trunks of his parts cars! On Dec 8, 2007 7:57 PM, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hahahahahaahhhaahahaha. How big is your dumpster? :) > > Luther > > > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] I'm iced up!
It is cold. Currently +9F outside. Garage doesn't feel any warmer, although some bottles of water I have sitting on the workbench haven't frozen. I am going to put a thermometer on the hood of the Benz overnight to see just how cold he garage is. Tried starting the Benz this morning. Good battery (was on the Battery Tender all night long and had a green light). Cranked normal speed. Won't begin to fire, just turns over. Plugged the block heater in about 1:00 and let it warm up thru the afternoon. Just tried again, same thing. I checked the oil and poured in a quart of Mobil 1 this morning (before trying to start it). Oil was sitting on a shelf not far from the Benz. Still poured but was sort of a honey consistency. I am beginning to think my fuel has gelled. I poured plenty of PowerSource Fuel Conditioner in several days ago and have had a sixty mile round trip since, plus around-town driving, so stuff is mixed. But the fuel is pure #2 rather than the mix of #1 diesel & #2 diesel that is now in the pumps. ... But on the other hand, my car has sat outside at work in mid-teen temps almost all week so strange that nothing happened before. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!
On Dec 8, 2007 8:53 PM, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Have you tried to work the hand pump? -- Tomorrow > > > Is the "Off" lever on the injection pump up? -- Yes. I did drain off the vacuum at the shutoff valve and that didn't seem to help, although there wasn't much battery left at that point. > > > How about loosening an injector line while you crank it? -- Second to the last resort. Tomorrow. > > > How about pointing an electric heater at the main fuel filter? -- Last resort. > > > > Craig I think my next line of attack (if the easy ones fail) is to take off the primary fuel filter, refill with Diesel Purge, and try that. I'd think that Diesel Purge (maybe mixed with fuel conditioner) would melt any ice downstream in the lines. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!
I am just anal-retentive enough to doubt any sudden mechanical problems -- unless something major broke. Think "Felix Unger Owns A 240D." Shut-off valve is relatively new, hand pump is equally new, fuel lines are in good condition. Glow plugs upgraded from loop to pencil. I got "good" pre-glow light on the start attempt. Plugged fuel filter or tank screen should have showed progressive issues before things went dead. Gotta be ice or thick #2. Like I said, Mobil 1 15-W-50 poured like cold honey this morning! On Dec 8, 2007 9:30 PM, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Did you get any white smoke? If not, you have no fuel delivery for > some reason. > > Lots of possibilities, including a stuck shutoff servo. Could be > gelled fuel (although not likely if you put treatment in the tank), a > cracked line, leaking fuel lines, or a bad hand pump if you still have > the old one in there. Could also be a plugged fuel filter or tank > screen, too. > > Are your glow plugs actually working? Ain't gonna light otherwise! > > Peter > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!
On Dec 8, 2007 9:53 PM, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If it's gelled fuel, the pre-filter will have wax in it. I have a spare one > If that's the > case, either warm the car up to melt the fuel or take the fuel filter > (main one) off and fill it with anti-gel treatment and operate the hand > pump until you hear fuel squirting out the overflow. Diesel purge & anti-gel mix. > May not get it to > start, I've had my Volvo wax up a time or two and had to wait until it > warmed up. Started instantly then. Backup plan is to push it to Jeff's heated garage -- by pickup, not by hand (some of you at the IowaQ got to meet Jeff). Had to do that once last year. But then again, there is always ether! NO, I AM JOKING, FOLKS. Several folks have expressed interest in my Quantum. I am on the verge of considering a straight (no money changing hands) trade for a gas 190 to drive during the winter. Or for a gas Rabbit. It is early December and I am already weary of diesel. > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!
If I'd had a glow plug failure, would I have seen a pre-glow light at the dash? (asking, curious) On Dec 8, 2007 11:20 PM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sudden GP system failures are not unheard of. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [PHISH]Re: I'm iced up!
In honor of Marshall, I will check my glow plug fuse tomorrow. On Dec 8, 2007 11:59 PM, Scott Ritchey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As I recall, the GP fuse once failed in my 82 300SD but the pre-glow light > was normal. It was years ago, so I could be wrong. > > > >If I'd had a glow plug failure, would I have seen a pre-glow light at the > >dash? (asking, curious) > > On Dec 8, 2007 11:20 PM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Sudden GP system failures are not unheard of. > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!
Went out and tried to start after I posted my last email. Car fired right up -- perhaps the heat from the block heater thawed whatever was frozen. ... Immediately drove to the fuel station and topped off (5.6 gallons) with 70/30 mix, plus dumped in the other half bottle of PowerService. ... I am wondering if I shouldn't change out the primary fuel filter as a precaution, or at least remove and dump in more PowerService. On Dec 9, 2007 10:12 AM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wonko the Sane wrote: > > > > I put in 1/4 tank (to top it off) last week but I don't think they had > > shifted to the winter mix at that point. > > "Winterized" stickers pop up on Michigan pumps in early September usually. > Have been driving the 190E so I haven't paid attention to the diesel pumps > this year. The plan is to have the vast majority of drivers make a > purchase > of winterized fuel before first frost. > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!
I put in 1/4 tank (to top it off) last week but I don't think they had shifted to the winter mix at that point. Probably have mostly #2 diesel with a little bit leftover of biodiesel (just B-2), plus half a bottle of PowerSource. ... I am beginning to think water has accumulated in the primary fuel filter over the summer, and has frozen. On Dec 9, 2007 7:40 AM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > When was your last fuel fill? Before or after Labor Day? > If it has mostly winter fuel in it, I wouldn't think 10-20F would > be a problem (unless there is water in the fuel). > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!
Don't forget -- I lived in Jax FL before moving to Iowa! On Dec 9, 2007 8:55 PM, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John M McIntosh wrote: > > On Dec 8, 2007, at 6:05 PM, Wonko the Sane wrote: > > > >> It is cold. Currently +9F outside. > > > > Well 30F here, balmy. However I was pleased to see on my fluke meter > > this am all glow plugs on the 83 measured 0.5 ohms. Starts > > nicely... > > You guys don't want to know how warm it is down here ;) > > John > -Wore shorts and flip flops today > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!
This is where Debbie grew up. Much more sane pace of life than Jax has. Or other places I've lived: NYC, DC, etc. On Dec 9, 2007 9:16 PM, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wonko the Sane wrote: > > Don't forget -- I lived in Jax FL before moving to Iowa! > > How on earth did you end up in Iowa? I don't understand why people > still live there... I sure couldn't handle it! > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!
I would gladly take a foot of snow (Iowa) instead of a quarter inch of ice (Dallas, Atlanta, etc.). Of course, in Iowa we sometimes get both. In closely-spaced storms. On Dec 9, 2007 9:39 PM, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Come south, young man, come south. We're only getting ½ inch of ice > tonight. > > > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'll be gone for awhile
What? You never heard of notebook computers and wireless? They work really well from a recovery bed ... and personal experience here has shown they work really well from the couch during a good football game. :-) On Dec 9, 2007 5:36 PM, Peter T. Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That being said, I will try to figure out how to become inactive > tomorrow. > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!
We moved from Florida to Iowa in part because we missed seeing the seasons. Christmas lights (all white) in palm trees detracts somewhat from the traditional Christmas spirit. Quite frankly, we grew wear of wearing shorts year round. Does a body good to shovel snow from time to time. Gotta get a little frost on the goatee. Before you send hate mail, I am the only member of my current-generation family who does *not* live in Florida: parents are in St. Augustine (Crescent Beach), next brother down is a principal in Palm Coast, baby of the family is a Secret Service dude living in Ft. Laud. and working in Miami. Yea, I cuss and swear when my diesel gels up but I'd not go back to living in shorts-all-year for anything. I like the seasons. I like winter when it actually looks like winter. I enjoy raking leaves in my yard and burning them on the then-harvested garden. That being said, I turn 55 in a couple of weeks. I am but a decade away from moving back to Florida, I am sure! It is the law: when you turn 65 the government requires that you move to Florida and buy a condo. On Dec 9, 2007 11:01 PM, Kevin Kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Was 80F here in Htown today, a wonderful sunny warm afternoon for our > Ultimate game. > > We've got 34F and snow flurries here in Hillsboro, what a day for breaking > in the new RC engine in my Mega Baja Bug. At least I don't have to worry > about it overheating. Mercedes content: I wish I could get a 'Mog body > for > it. The Baja isn't too bad though. > > Kevin in Hillsboro, OR > 1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula > PS. Just checked the temp, and it's up near 36 now. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] hard wiring glow plugs
They were "ridded-of" a couple of years ago.:-) Nice pencil-style glow plugs. On Dec 10, 2007 6:34 PM, Fmiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I > Aakk! > > Does it still have series glow plugs? > > Get rid of them if it does > > -- Philip > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190E 16v valve adjustment
Where's Marshall when you need him! On Dec 10, 2007 6:22 PM, tom savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I need to set the valves in the 16v. I thought I had the relevant > section of manual around here somewhere, but can't find it. Could > anyone send the file my way? > > Many thanks, > Tom > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Is this a scam?
Run away! On Dec 11, 2007 2:44 PM, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So there was this used Generac diesel generator on Craigslist for a > very good price: > > http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/tls/504939058.html > > I sent the guy an email with a bunch of tech questions about it (not > harassing him, just wanted to save myself a trip if it's worn out or > otherwise unsuitable to power my house in the next nasty storm), and > this is the reply I got: > > "Hi , > The generator is in good working condition and the price I'm selling > it for is $1850, which is including all shippings charges. > I live in Portland but I`m currently working in the UK (London) and > I`ll be staying here for the next approximately 7 months, anyway I`m > using MoneyBookers services so I can sell this generator without > difficulty. I left it at their warehouse before leaving to the UK. > They will take care of the delivery with a 14-day return policy so you > will have the chance to inspect it before final decision. > If you want to purchase it, let me know and I will explain you how > MoneyBookers works and how we can move forward. > I am waiting your email. > Thanks" > > This sounds like some kind of Nigerian scam, doesn't it? > > Sigh. > > Alex Chamberlain > '87 300D Turbo et al. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] fuel consumption
I let the 240D idle all day a couple of times at work when the temps were well-minus-zero last year. My experience was that it burned about 1/8 tank in nine hours. Fuel gauge showed 1/4 tank gone but it reads wrong (i.e., when the gauge shows 1/2 tank I actually have 3/4 tank remaining). On Dec 12, 2007 3:58 PM, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is not a direct relationship between engine size and GPH at idle. > A Mercedes prechamber engine will burn more fuel at idle. > > Thanks, Tom > 256-656-1924 > > -Original Message- > From: "Allen Sawyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "mercedes@okiebenz.com" > Sent: 12/12/07 1:58 PM > Subject: [MBZ] fuel consumption > > Concerning the 240D running all nite--my old GMC 6.2 engine manual > stated that the 6.2 burned 0.3 gallon per hour at idle. Therefore, a 4 > cylinder diesel should use about 0.15 gallons per hour, or 1.5 gallons > per 10 hours. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Browsers.
True. Firefox. And it is (1) free and (2) well supported/upgraded. On Dec 12, 2007 5:46 PM, jgiels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I recently changed from ATT DSL to Comcast and I really liked the custom > browser that ATT had now with Comcast its the regular IE 7.XX. I would > like to find something that is a bit more. If more is the right word. > > I know and trust The List.. > > thanks.. Douglas > > btw the little servo motor doesn't work after all my previous work! Anyone > know of a Part number for a replacement motor? > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Bumluck and caravan bumper
I am sure I am going to "urinate" some folks off saying this ... but the deer were here long before we were. They didn't move in on our territory, we moved in on theirs. Society demands more and more land for big houses and wider roads, and in that pursuit areas that were formerly wild / farms are paved over. I am not sure what the answer is but wholesale slaughter just doesn't appeal to my ethical side. I could rant on about native Americans and White Man's Burden, etc., but will instead go make supper (pasta & red sauce). But I'm a vegetarian and don't hunt (last hunted in the mid 60s) so my views are really slanted against mainstream thoughts. Don On Dec 12, 2007 1:02 AM, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Last night I was hoping to beat out the ice storm. Came across a > herd of deer on the road. Deer in both lanes on my side of the > road. Ice on the shoulders. the one in my lane fell, so I ran over > it rather than hit another full-on. So, after somewhere around 1.5 > million miles, I had an accident on the road, thanks to the Iowa DNR > and their policy of building up deer herds to ridiculous levels at > the taxpayer's expense. The deer are the "king's" deer if you > want to shoot one, but when they ravage fields and kill and maim on > the highway, they are suddenly NOT the "king's" deer. Imagine > government being hypocritical! For those who think deer are > not a problem, you have no idea how thick the overgrown rats are in > eastern Iowa. I estimated over 3,000 per square mile. We loose > probably $20,000 to 30,000 per year in damage, just on a 20 acre > orchard, not counting the field crops. I successfully avoided 2 > other herds on the road in 60 miles. > > Anyhow, does anyone know how hard it is to change the front bumper > cover on a 2000 grand caravan? What do you have to do to get it off? > > I was very lucky that the bambi was down and I was able to run over > it. All I really need is the cover and a plastic inner fender > liner. The other good thing is that my bambi was dead. one less to > cause more damage. I am counting my blessings that the bambi was > not standing and that i didn't end up with it in my lap and didn't > have 5 times the damage. I am also glad it didn't ruin a good Mercedes. > > So, if anyone has a "how to" R&R the front bumper, I'd appreciate the info > > Loren > > > > > Loren Faeth > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] hard wiring glow plugs
I am convinced that I have to have a bad glow plug. Car was plugged in all day (inside an insulated garage, temp no lower than 40F) and it took lots of cranking on a fully charged battery to start. Four new glow plugs are on order from Rusty. Hopefully will be here at or before Saturday, and after the install we shall see. On Dec 12, 2007 8:48 PM, Fmiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It seems than at Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:14:27 -0600, Wonko wrote: > > > They were "ridded-of" a couple of years ago.:-) > > > > Nice pencil-style glow plugs. > > Good! > > Now, maybe I missed something in one of the posts... > > Did you change anything besides the plugs? I believe the > parallel plugs draw more current. At least I recall that my '78 > had a 50A fuse and all the newer ones have an 80A. > > > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Browsers.
For the same reason that you own a Benz. Firefox/IceWeasel is just better -- faster, has more plug-ins, quicker upgrades, etc. Ok, forget the "faster" if like my you own a W123 4-banger diesel. On Dec 12, 2007 8:41 PM, Robert Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Okay...remembering I'm a computer maladroit, please explain to me why > should > I have Firefox over regular Micro Soft issue whatever-it-is I use? > > > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Browsers.
There is an interesting overlap between the Benz list and the Linux list. ;-) On Dec 12, 2007 9:58 PM, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well - if you like to fiddle with the stuff in/on the PC, Firefox, > etc. are more fun. If you just want to use it, and can keep it patched > up, use what came with it. > > > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] hard wiring glow plugs
Gotta be a plug, Don. Same "gel" symptoms whether outside at 10+F or in a 40+F garage. Valve adjustment isn't too far in the distant past. ... There was a gradual increase in cranking time during the fall, which to me points to a failing (now failed) plug. And, if the plugs don't fix it, then I am screwed and I drive the VW Quantum until it warms up in the spring. On Dec 12, 2007 9:56 PM, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am convinced that I have to have a bad glow plug. > > Measure twice, cut once. Use an ammeter, or measure voltage drop - > you had electronics training. > > > > > Four new glow plugs are on order from Rusty. Hopefully will be here at > or > > before Saturday, and after the install we shall see. > > > > Oops - too late > > > -- > OK Don, KD5NRO > Norman, OK > "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." > -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] hard wiring glow plugs
I am hoping it is the glow plug. If not, then it is definitely a gasser in the garage. If that is the case, I will keep the Benz but will put it into winter storage. On Dec 12, 2007 10:15 PM, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If one plug is bad, it will start and run rough until that one hole > warms up. It's not likely that all of them went out at once. > To quote another one - "you can't manage what you can't measure" - > hence all the cool measuring toys - ah, tools - > > On Dec 12, 2007 10:08 PM, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Gotta be a plug, Don. Same "gel" symptoms whether outside at 10+F or in > a > > 40+F garage. Valve adjustment isn't too far in the distant past. ... > There > > was a gradual increase in cranking time during the fall, which to me > points > > to a failing (now failed) plug. And, if the plugs don't fix it, > then I > > am screwed and I drive the VW Quantum until it warms up in the spring. > > > > -- > OK Don, KD5NRO > Norman, OK > "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." > -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] hard wiring glow plugs
Quantum is still running fine. In fact, I drove it to work this morning. But it will probably go on the auction block soon to finance the gasser / winter car. On Dec 13, 2007 8:16 AM, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What about the quantum? > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] hard wiring glow plugs
As Kleb would say --- hahahahahahahahah. (It has relatively new Goodyear Regatta 2 tires, so about x7 of your bid and the *tires* would be paid for.) On Dec 13, 2007 9:27 AM, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > $51.00 > > On Dec 13, 2007 8:39 AM, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > $50! > > > > On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 08:31:49 -0600, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > Quantum is still running fine. In fact, I drove it to work this > morning. But > > > it will probably go on the auction block soon to finance the gasser / > winter > > > car. > > -- > OK Don, KD5NRO > Norman, OK > "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." > -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] hard wiring glow plugs
Had to include them -- got them from Rusty so I am *sure* they were top quality stuff. On Dec 13, 2007 11:25 AM, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wonko the Sane wrote: > > > new wiper blades > > Oh come on! > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] hard wiring glow plugs
Actually, the most labor intensive and PITA job was draining/dropping the fuel tank and replacing fuel lines. There was an air leak that was impacting start times. Even with the tank removed it was difficult to re-plumb. ... I was quite surprised to find how quickly the car started after the leaking fuel lines were replaced. I was happy with the results but would not want to do that task again! On Dec 13, 2007 11:25 AM, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wonko the Sane wrote: > > > new wiper blades > > Oh come on! > > > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] hard wiring glow plugs
Can't in good faith do that, since the oil isn't Mobil 1. On Dec 13, 2007 11:35 AM, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wonko the Sane wrote: > > Had to include them -- got them from Rusty so I am *sure* they were top > > quality stuff. > > So you going to include the cost of all the oil & oil filters? ;) > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
