Re: Mersenne: Entropia Servers

2000-06-07 Thread Eric Hahn

Levi Broderick wrote:
Yeah.. I kinda also noticed that the entropia.com servers have
been wacky today.  Something strange, though -- I was playing
around with URL's and this can get you your account information:

http://www.mersenne.org/cgi-bin/primenet_report.pl?UserID=*HIDDEN*UserPW=*
HIDDEN*
(http://mersenne.org/ips/accounts.html)

Ah!  So it appears that the transition of the cgi(s) from
Entropia.com to Mersenne.org have finally been made  I
had understand this would eventually happen.

Kinda surprised that this info was up on the mersenne server;
I always thought it and the entropia servers were located
separately.  Oh well, for those of you who wanted to check
your account info, here's at least a temporary solution. :)

As I recall, George had posted something several months ago
about entropia.com hosting the GIMPS domain (mersenne.org) from
that point on.  I also remember something about a transition
of the PrimeNet server from the Entropia to the Mersenne domain.
As of 2 or 3 weeks ago, everything had seemed to be moved over
expect the cgi(s). (As of last Friday, the URL(s) requiring
cgi (including the one above) did not work if they pointed to
mersenne.org)

From what it appears you must now have mersenne.org instead of
entropia.com in *any* URLs that point to the PrimeNet server for
complete access.

Eric


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Mersenne: Manual Testing Forms Still Broken

2000-06-07 Thread Stefan Struiker

To All:

In the server transition, the Manual Testing Forms still
seem to be broken.  Can't UNreserve exponents, for example.

Best Regards,
Stefanovic

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Re: Mersenne: Manual Testing Forms Still Broken

2000-06-07 Thread Eric Hahn

Stefan Struiker wrote:
To All:

In the server transition, the Manual Testing Forms still
seem to be broken.  Can't UNreserve exponents, for example.

Hmmm  The manual tests page does appear to post to entropia.com
by default. :(   One hack around this (until the page is changed)
is to save the file to disk, load it into a text editor, find the
lines that start with:
  form action="http://entropia.com/cgi-bin/
change these lines to:
  form action="http://mersenne.org/cgi-bin/
Save the file back to disk.  Afterwards, load the file back into
your browser *from disk*, and fill in the appropriate manual test
boxes.  Clicking on the "submit" buttons should then perform the
task desired correctly.
NOTE: Once saved and changed on disk, you don't have to redo the
procedure all over again. You can instead just load the previously
saved file on disk!

On a side not, the thing that bothers me most about the whole
thing though, is that no warning came of the time/date the
switch would be made, leaving people completely in the dark.
You only got a "Page Not Found" error when you attempted to get
your info.  As I recall, something was said about a warning
being issued first the next time something like that was going
to happen...

Eric


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Mersenne: CPU hours

2000-06-07 Thread Robert Braunwart

Can anyone give me the formula for computing P90 CPU hours of work from a 
Mersenne exponent, for LL tests and for factoring?

Thanks.

--Bob Braunwart

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Re: Mersenne: Manual Testing Forms Still Broken

2000-06-07 Thread Nathan Russell




From: Stefan Struiker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Mersenne: Manual Testing Forms Still "Broken"
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 06:14:38 -0700

To All:

In the server transition, the Manual Testing Forms still
seem to be broken.  Can't UNreserve exponents, for example.

Best Regards,
Stefanovic

I tried to reply to this earlier, but my school's proxy server was on the 
fritz.  I appologize if it got through and this appears to be a duplicate 
message.

I have been having problems reading some of the PrimeNet "world search 
status" webpages lately; it appears that they only show exponents through 
9.7 M.  There used to be certain versions of/addresses for the pages that 
worked; this is no longer the case, as far as I can tell.

I intend to use George's status page until the problem is fixed; I have a 
good idea of which exponents are assigned to me, as I only have one machine!

Nathan

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Re: Mersenne: CPU hours

2000-06-07 Thread Nathan Russell

On Wed, 07 Jun 2000 08:06:47 PDT,

Robert Braunwart [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked:

Can anyone give me the formula for computing P90 CPU hours of work from a
Mersenne exponent, for LL tests and for factoring?

IIRC, there is no easy formula for factoring, since smaller exponents 
actually take longer to factor to a specific depth (there's more candidate 
factors; see George's math pages).  If you have a Pentium Pro or above, you 
can get a rough idea by taking the time needed by your machine and 
multiplying it by the clock speed; then divide by about 60 to 70 since 
PPro-archetecture CPU's are much better at factoring relative to their clock 
speed.  This is my own rule-of-thumb formula, and may have nothing to do 
with the ones Entropia uses for factoring credit; I suggest that you ask 
them for that info.

For LL testing, head over to the official benchmark page at 
http://www.mersenne.org/bench.htm and get the per-iteration time for a P90 
for the exponent range, or 'runlength', that you are testing.   His times 
are per second, so multiply by the exponent and divide by 3600 for CPU 
hours, or some large number for CPU years (I don't have a calculator here at 
school).  George's page doesn't presently list a P90, so you might try 
linear interpolation or use the handy java applet.

Happy testing,
Nathan Russell

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RE: Mersenne: Manual Testing Forms Still Broken

2000-06-07 Thread Ignacio Larrosa Cañestro

I did that modifications yesterday. Now,  I get repeatdly
the server message "Server busy - please try again in a few
moments" when I try to check in results. But I can get my
personal account report.

Un saludo,

Ignacio Larrosa Cañestro
A Coruña (España)
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- Original Message -
From: Eric Hahn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: Mersenne: Manual Testing Forms Still "Broken"


 Stefan Struiker wrote:
 To All:
 
 In the server transition, the Manual Testing Forms still
 seem to be broken.  Can't UNreserve exponents, for
example.

 Hmmm  The manual tests page does appear to post to
entropia.com
 by default. :(   One hack around this (until the page is
changed)
 is to save the file to disk, load it into a text editor,
find the
 lines that start with:
   form action="http://entropia.com/cgi-bin/
 change these lines to:
   form action="http://mersenne.org/cgi-bin/
 Save the file back to disk.  Afterwards, load the file
back into
 your browser *from disk*, and fill in the appropriate
manual test
 boxes.  Clicking on the "submit" buttons should then
perform the
 task desired correctly.
 NOTE: Once saved and changed on disk, you don't have to
redo the
 procedure all over again. You can instead just load the
previously
 saved file on disk!

 On a side not, the thing that bothers me most about the
whole
 thing though, is that no warning came of the time/date the
 switch would be made, leaving people completely in the
dark.
 You only got a "Page Not Found" error when you attempted
to get
 your info.  As I recall, something was said about a
warning
 being issued first the next time something like that was
going
 to happen...

 Eric




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