Re: Remove the password protection of a stack Application browser

2010-12-16 Thread Zryip Theslug
From: Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com

 Message box: set passKey of stack xyz to abc
 To remove a password after setting the passKey:
 set password of stack xyz to empty

passKey will do the trick.

Thanks Scott!


From: Shari sh...@gypsyware.com

 It is indeed called the Control Browser and you can access it from the Tools 
menu.  It is very different from the Rev Application Browser.  (I say Rev
 because I've not downloaded the LiveCode version yet so I don't know if it 
changed from the Rev version.)

Ok, thanks Shari!

From: J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com

 MC is more like a command line app, with only a minimal GUI. There are a few 
more improvements in it now than originally but it still is missing many
 of the interface items that LiveCode provides. The object inspectors contain 
only the basic, most-used items, and everything else you must set from
 the message box. That applies to passwords too. In fact, if you don't know a 
property exists you are likely to miss it entirely because the IDE has no
 reference to it.

 It does force you to learn the whole language though. :)



I love command line apps a lot... Or maybe not ;)  Thanks Jacque!
I should find my way in the dark.



Jacque, Shari and Scott, thanks for your replies to my newbie questions.



Best regards,
TheSlug


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Re: Remove the password protection of a stack Application browser

2010-12-16 Thread Richmond



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 Message box: set passKey of stack xyz to abc
 To remove a password after setting the passKey:
 set password of stack xyz to empty

*
One wonders what the point of password protection is then (at least 
vis-a-vis stacks).
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Re: Remove the password protection of a stack Application

2010-12-16 Thread FlexibleLearning
 1) How removing the password protection of a stack in the MC IDE.
 In the LC IDE the IDE asks me for the password when I'm trying to open a
script
 in the stack. In the MC IDE, I'm informed that the stack is password
protected
 but not asking a password


Hi zryip

The MC IDE lost the ability to set/remove a password became lost after v4.0
when the encryption in the engine changed.

I think we are still waiting for Edit menu  Stack Properties 
Password/Passkey button to be updated. Klaus?

Personally I never use the LC IDE until I need to build a standAlone or
protect a stack. Passwording is a pain, though, because I have to open a
protected in LC, try to edit a script, enter the password to temporarily
unlock it, use the message box to set the password of this stack to empty,
save the stack, then return to MC to continue. Fortunately I do not have to
do this frequently. Fortunately when building a standAlone, setting the
password at build time does not affect the source stack itself.

Hugh Senior
FLCo




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Re: Remove the password protection of a stack Application browser

2010-12-16 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Richmond wrote:

 Message box: set passKey of stack xyz to abc
 To remove a password after setting the passKey:
 set password of stack xyz to empty
 
  One wonders what the point of password protection is then (at least vis-a-vis
 stacks).

I don't know what the actual state of password protection is in MC, but in
general you cannot change/undo a stack's password without knowing that
password.  The passkey string above is the same as the stack's password
string; you are prevented from setting the password property directly,
without first setting the passkey to the stack's password.  Plus, setting
the passkey property is temporary, working only for the current session
until the stack is removed from memory.  The next time you open the stack,
the password is enabled and scripts are protected.

It may sound a bit roundabout, but I'm sure it's no different that what
LiveCode uses in the IDE.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX Design



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Re: Remove the password protection of a stack Application

2010-12-16 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 12/16/10 1:01 PM, FlexibleLearning wrote:


The MC IDE lost the ability to set/remove a password became lost after v4.0
when the encryption in the engine changed.


It works if you use the message box though.



I think we are still waiting for Edit menu  Stack Properties
Password/Passkey button to be updated. Klaus?


Oh -- I see what you mean now. You know, I never noticed that was in 
there! I can also see the problem, it's the same one Richard reported on 
the LiveCode list. The passkey and password won't match any more, even 
if they are the same. I've forgotten the workaround but Richard would know.


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HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com

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Re: Remove the password protection of a stack Application browser

2010-12-16 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 12/16/10 12:45 PM, Richmond wrote:



*

 Message box: set passKey of stack xyz to abc
 To remove a password after setting the passKey:
 set password of stack xyz to empty

*

One wonders what the point of password protection is then (at least
vis-a-vis stacks).


Well, you do have to know what the password is to unlock the stack. The 
point being that you, as a developer, can get in but others can't.


Another big advantage of setting a password is that the stack content is 
encrypted and can't be read in a text editor, so the scripts are 
protected from snoopers.


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HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com

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Re: Remove the password protection of a stack Application browser

2010-12-16 Thread Robert Brenstein

On 16.12.2010 at 15:08 Uhr -0600 J. Landman Gay apparently wrote:


Well, you do have to know what the password is to unlock the stack. 
The point being that you, as a developer, can get in but others 
can't.




With the exception of

http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=546

However, there was some changes somewhere in engine 4 that changed 
some of the behavior. I recall a discussion on the rev-use list but 
forget the details.


Robert

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