Re: Proposed Icons for MC
From: Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greetings MC Folks: We all know MC's icons suck. At Richard's request, I've spent some time looking into updating the icons for MC's ask and answer dialogs and have arrived at a proposal. IMO, if MC/Rev is going to continue to support legacy systems, legacy and modern appearances should be supported as well. Thus each major platform has two sets of icons (this may not be needed for UNIX). Since I can't seem to upload files to the MC_IDE Yahoo group, I've posted a preview of the icons I've assembled here: http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/mc_icons_1.jpg great job, Scott! Just gotta be that fine Eyetallian eye... ;-) The same ID as Rev would be a nstural, I think. Ray Ray G. Miller __ Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: MC IDE 2.6 - next steps
From: Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: MC IDE 2.6 - next steps Dr.John R.Vokey wrote: Should I proceed with a change from opening as toplevel to simply opening in the stack's native mode? No; retain the original behaviour of 14 years. What do you think is most appropriate option for an IDE with 28 users? There are a lot more than 28 MC IDE users; I know of 4 beside myself who use the MC IDE exclusively, and none of them belongs to this list (they rely on me to keep the up-to-date). The Great Poobah wrote: Thank you for posting. The feedback is critical. Hmmm I wish there was a way we could give you four votes in the IDE usage poll. It's very helpful in understanding the scope of what we need to do. Ok, do it! You have the wisdom and the power (as invested by just being the Great Poobah!). When we were doing beta testing we gave certain testers more weight than others. There ain't no democracy when it comes to beta testing. I also vote to keep the original behavior. Ray Ray G. Miller __ Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Open as palette
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 10:15:52 -0400 From: Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Open as palette To: Discussions on Metacard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Scott Rossi wrote: Recently, "Richard Gaskin" wrote: The style property of a stack is a persistent property, so if it's opened with the generic "open" command it should be fine. Question: is this something new that's been added to the latest engine, or is a part of the Rev IDE? Because I notice that stack styles are apparently not persistent with MC 2.5. I can save a stack whose style is palette, close it, and reopen it, and it displays as topLevel. Personall I would consider that a bug, but others might prefer that the IDE's File-Open open things for editing. What's the general opinion among users here? Should we change the behavior? When it comes to opening stacks and substacks I would NOT like a persistence property. I'd lose control or go a little buggy when debugging.... Ray -- Ray G. Miller __ Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: commandKeyDown
From: Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] I propose removing those but keeping the optionKey section for script access: on commandKeyDown which if the optionKey is down then switch which case S edit script of the topStack break case C edit script of this card of the topStack break default pass commandKeyDown end switch else pass commandKeyDown end commandKeyDown Are more people relying on maintenance of this behavior than are adversely affected by it? I vote to keep the HC structure : commandKeyDown which if the optionKey is down then since that's what my body knows It's best not to think when I'm coding ;-) I use the arrows to nav between the cards. -- Ray G. Miller __ Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Plug ins in MC 2.6b1 and other questions
From: Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] But I wonder if it would be worthwhile making another utility for that, a very lean index of tokens with just the params and a one-line summary of its use, with a button to open the full entry in the Dictionary if needed. Would that be useful? Anyone want to make it? I doubt that I would use it. The MC IDE is supposed to be mean and simple. More is less in my opinion. Ray -- Ray G. Miller __ Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: MC IDE 2.6b1 released
From: Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] SNIP Are you sure you've joined the group as a member? I took a brief look through the 91 members there couldn't see you among them, but I'm not sure of your Yahoo ID so I can't say for sure. Yer right again. I did try to join when the site was first established. Either I got lock out or the gremlins from Yahoo! got me again... (I've got for or five Yahoo! IDs. Everytime I try to join, they come back with That ID is taken, try again.) I joined and and got the new IDE today. Will evaluate and get back. Ray -- Ray G. Miller __ Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Speaking of IDE Updates
From: Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] As always, the Great Poohbah speaks with great clairty. Ray G. Miller __ Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Interim language guide solution
From: J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jacque snapped back: Oh thanks. Appeal to my ego to get me to do work. Nice going, guys. Aw. It wasn't supposed to be a snap. It was supposed to be a tongue-in-cheek comment delivered with a twinkle in the eye. I think I forgot the smiley. ;) And I didn't mean crabby but quickly. I can see your twinkling eye ;-) Ray Ray G. Miller __ Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Open Source Licence (LGPL or GPL)
From: J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] I had never been to SourceForge, so I took a look yesterday. I think the lack of ftp access is a big drawback, and I think that if we are required to find a CVS client (which may not even exist for OS X users, I don't know) and get everything set up with the requirements CVS expects (public keys, encryption, whatever) that we will discourage people from participating. It will be too much work for anyone except those who are especially committed to the project, mostly because of the effort it takes before one can even access the group. I think we want to encourage casual participation, whether that means just uploading a contribution on the spur of the moment or downloading a file on a whim. Easy is good. Open is good. Yahoo Groups is a convenient, accessible, free, and neutral option. People can upload files and anyone can get them. It provides a place for discussion or mailing lists if we want them, but doesn't require we use those features. It allows easy transfer of moderatorship from one person to another if the current Poobah decides to hand the reins to someone else. So what about Yahoo? I agree with Jacque. I also found SourceForge a little daunting. Although Yahoo! dumps those lovely tails with every message, it might be a bit easier for all of us to handle... Ray G. Miller __ Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Interim language guide solution
I wrote: I wonder who really knows ALL there is to know about find? Jacque Gay. Jacque snapped back: Oh thanks. Appeal to my ego to get me to do work. Nice going, guys. Well, on the other hand, maybe I'll do it... Well, I actually did it on my copy. Couldn't help myself... I'll send my version to PooBah. Ray G. Miller __ Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Interim language guide solution
From: Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paste this in the Message Box: go url http://fourthworld.com/rev/channel/4wTranscriptDict.mc; Poohbah is da man! We did the right thing. I think we should double his salary and send him a big tub of guacamole. Now all it needs is a search function... I wonder who really knows ALL there is to know about find? Ray G. Miller __ Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: metacard digest, Vol 1 #788 - 13 msgs
PoohBah Richard sez: My candidacy rests on a platform of openness, democratic process, and guacamole to go with the chips. great! I'll contact the California Indian Gaming Assoc. to see if we can get us some serious funding... ;_0 What's good for Cruz is even better for our Great PoohBah ! Do we have the SourceForge URL yet? Ray G. Miller __ Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Open Source Licence (LGPL or GPL)
From: Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] David Bovill wrote: The simple story is to use the LGPL if you may wish to distribute the open source code with 'linked' libraries (read IDE or engine here) which is not GPL'd. Hmmm I had never considered including the Rev engine with the MC IDE distribution. It would be convenient, given the dissection required for OS X, but in my mind it keeps everything clean and simple to distribute only the IDE. Has anyone checked: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/why-not-lgpl.html Ray G. Miller __ Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Open Source Licence (LGPL or GPL)
From: David Bovill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Robert Brenstein wrote: Creating distribution packages, as Scott used to do, may not be worth the effort for this group, but it may be desirable to have an option to make engines available on IDE web site for a single-stop downloading. We do not have to have them, but... A link to Rev's engine download page would be essential. I have noticed a regular set of posts requiring after a particular version of th MC engine on a particular platform. I recall that someone is hosting an archive of sorts somewhere - and I would have thought that the best place to put this was on this free shared web site (everything in one place). We have 100MB of space. And again, all this may be moot. If the new and improved MC IDE is created and implemented as envisioned, then Rev will probably include it as an alternative IDE. This would be the best of both possible worlds. Ray G. Miller __ Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: MC IDE's home
On 9/8/03 4:24 AM, Robert Brenstein wrote: Richard, since you have started the ball rolling and have been already involved dealing with Scott and Rev folks on this issue, I'd vote for you to continue for now unless you really do not want to do it. Richard, you have my vote. Is your title Chief Poohbah or simply Hw-Who-Must-Be-Obeyed ? ;-) Ray Ray G. Miller __ Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Message Box placement
From: Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Currently the Message Box is opened below and center to the topmost window. Personally, I prefer it to open at the bottom of the display (aboce the Dock/Task Bar). In the next rev of the IDE, would you folks prefer to have it centered to the topstack or at the bottom of the display? I would prefer the bottom of the windowBoundingRect rather than the topStack or the screenRect... Ray G. Miller __ Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re:scrollbar bug
Listers, Have a possible bug in the scrollbars. I have a window which displays thumbnail size pix 2 columns by 3 rows: six pictures are displayed at one time. The user can mark any pix by a checkBox under each picture. He can then switch between the main database and the marked list by flipping a toggle. The problem is than if the user selects less than 7 pix, flips to the marked list and then back to the main list, the lineIncrement and the pageIncrement go wonkie. The scrollBar sez it's set to 5 and 76, repectively! Selecting 7 or more pix will normalize the scrollBar. Any ideas? on setTheScrollBar global gLineInc,gPageInc -- gLineInc is set elsewhere at 152 put the number of lines in fld ed.theDB into theNum put 6 into numOfPix ## in the display put ((theNum) + (theNum mod 2) - numOfPix) * gLineInc into theEnd if theEnd gLineInc then put gLineInc into theEnd ### less than 6 pix to show set the startValue of part thePixScroll to gLineInc set the endValue of part thePixScroll to theEnd put 2 * gLineInc into theLineInc ### to scroll properly 'cause it's 2 pix wide ## put gPageInc , theLineInc ## should be 912,304 but becomes 76,5 if number of pix 7 !! set the lineIncrement of part thePixScroll to theLineInc set the pageIncrement of part thePixScroll to gPageInc set the thumbPos of part thePixScroll to gLineInc ## set the thumb size put (gPageInc/numOfPix) + (theLineInc/4) - gLineInc into theThumSiz set the thumbSize of part thePixScroll to theThumSiz ## show how many marked record put 1 of theNum records into fld theCount put the hilite of btn showMarked into markedBool if markedBool then put number of lines in fld ed.theDB into mNum else put number of lines in fld ed.theMarkedDB into mNum end if put mNum of theNum marked into fld theMarked repeat with x = 1 to 6 ## disabled elsewhere put ed.mark.0 x into bNam enable btn bNam end repeat scrollThisList gLineInc ### reset to top of scroll end setTheScrollBar Ray G. Miller __ Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Inline Graphics
From: Ray Horsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greetings, I'm wanting to display things like the degree sign (the superscript zero) and fractions (stacked vertically), but of course I want them to flow with text in a field as it gets displayed on different systems with different fonts. Anybody know of anyway to put a graphic in a field so it does this? Ray, Have you tried: set the imageSource of char y of line x of field showFldName to imageID Ray G. Miller __ Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: METACARD ACQUIRED BY RUN REV!!!
From: Alain Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now, like I said... If I were to be able to trade my 2.5 license right now for a Rev 2.0.1 license, in an even trade, I would do it and Revolution would have one more user. Revolution wouldn't make any money off of me right now, but they're not going to anyway because I'm not going to spend $300. This sums up rather well my gut-feeling on this issue as well. MC and RR have merged into one.. so should we, but not by immediately dishing out more cash. Our investment in MC should 'port' to RR without any hassle whatsoever. That's what would make us happy. ;-) Yep. INCLUDE MCers under the Rev tent and make a happy familty! I may have to rotate my tires, but I don't need to buy four new ones. Ray G. Miller __ Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Smaller than milliseconds?
From: Dar Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can get even shorter times on the longs, if you throw away the first long of each type. For example... put the long seconds into junk Put that just before your first use of the long seconds. Do likewise with other longs. The original way: the long seconds: 1057959579.060119 delta: 0.09 the ticks: 63477574743 delta: 0 the milliseconds: 1057959579062 delta: 0 the long ticks: 63477574743.85434 delta: 0.000366 the long milliseconds: 1057959579065.631958 delta: 0.005981 And with put the long timeUnit into junk the long seconds: 1057959894.692325 delta: 0.03 the ticks: 63477593681 delta: 0 the milliseconds: 1057959894695 delta: 0 the long ticks: 63477593681.815025 delta: 0.000122 the long milliseconds: 1057959894698.46106 delta: 0.002075 the long seconds: 1057959900.740434 delta: 0.04 the ticks: 63477594044 delta: 0 the milliseconds: 1057959900744 delta: 0 the long ticks: 63477594044.748299 delta: 0.61 the long milliseconds: 1057959900747.609985 delta: 0.002075 Ok, who's faster now! let's go rotate our tires Ray G. Miller __ Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: metacard digest, Vol 1 #707 - 16 msgs
On 7/11/03 4:23 PM, Shari wrote: As a rule, I do create a resource fork, and store things in it, that the PPC version uses. As I often end up compiling * many * times before I am satisfied, it saves a ton of work in editing the resource fork for every compile. The info is just there. So I would have to delete the resource fork. Would deleting the items within it, work as well as deleting it, as far as creating a zip file? Sheri, As soon as I got to MC, I abandoned the much-loved Resource fork and built a data-fork equivalent. I stuff all the pix (JPEGs, GIFs, etc) with the database of these pix into one file. One such JPEG I use contains more than 1100 pix. The time it takes to read and unwrap to get to specific pix is hardly more than 5 to 10 millisecs than reading from the resource fork. MC is very fast reading from disc! I have the data-fork-creator suck all the pix (sounds or text) from a designated folder, create the database of those pix and wrap it into one tidy compressed file. This keeps my stacks very clean. Only MC parts. ALL data--text, pix, and sounds--are on disc. With a simple viewing stack, I can examine any pix, sound or text; get its name for a script. Adding, deleting and editing any one resource is a simple matter of opening the original, making changes and recompressing the wrapped file. Ray G. Miller __ Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re:METACARD ACQUIRED BY RUN REV!!!
I believe that this could be the best thing for the xTalk world since color hit with SuperCard.A strong marketing arm is what's needed to create a critical mass of xTalkers. So how do we go about making the transition? We've got MC 2.5 now, with a full license; but how does that apply to Rev 2.0? Merely downloding the latest version of Rev will still hold developers to the ten-line limit. Right? Do I hear a suggestion out there in the Rev world? Does this MC List get mereged into the Rev List? Will Scott's Wise Eye watch over us chickens when we start to PANIC? Ray G. Miller __ Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Jumping together
From: Scott Rossi, I actually took a stab at doing a front end for MC that started about 4 years ago. The goal was to get better layout capabilities than those provided in the current MC IDE, and keep everything (except the script editor and message box) in a single, small-footprint palette. I only poke my nose into it every few months or so because the time to do something like this is very demanding, but FWIW, some screenshots are available here: http://www.tactilemedia.com/TLE/screenshot_1.jpg http://www.tactilemedia.com/TLE/screenshot_2.jpg http://www.tactilemedia.com/TLE/screenshot_3.jpg; LOL! That was the first thing I did when I switched from HC! After futzing with Dan Gelder's Serf, I felt that the best path was MC, but the GUI begged for improvement. An everthing palette is still the best course, IMHO. Click a part button and ONLY its propreties are displayed. You're right, it's very time consuming. It's a bit like doing brain surgery on yourself... ;-) You have a great eye for GUI and design. What graphic app did you use? BTB, you're left-handed, right? You use the same test words that I use: sger,trewy, drety etc... Ray G. Miller __ Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Moving the MC IDE
MCers, I vote keep this a general discussion list, until the MC-to-Rev transition has been accomplished. Create a new MC/Rev open source list. Those of us who are not that familiar with Rev (do REVers refer to it as Rev or RR?) will become better suited to the new environment... The Rev team will have plenty to do merging the two groups over the next few months, so us newbie can quietly PANIC amongst ourselves. (Get a review of newbies by watching Chicken Run.) Ray G. Miller __ Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: [ANN] Game Available for Test
From: Shari [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ANN] Game Available for Test Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To grab the game, type the following in your message box: go stack url http://www.tactilemedia.com/test/stacks/kodekraker.mc; Scott, I tried to grab it. I used the URL in Internet Explorer on Mac 8.6, and was taken to a web page of gobbledygook, no download. I tried typing it into the message box exactly as you have it... go stack url etc And it said No such card Yes I was online when I tried it :-) Maybe you took it down already. I tried at 9 a.m. on Thursday. Shari C like Shari, I had the same result. I'm using Netscape 7.0+ with Meta 2.5... Ray G. Miller __ Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Your icture Project
EaziPixers, OK, I missed the Wednesday ship date: I had a French advisor urging me backward Actually it is almost ready. I need to run some destruct tests and should send by Friday, deGaulle willing! Ray -- Ray G. Miller --- Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: The Case Of The Unreadable File
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] What kind of value do you get for increment in your script by the time you get an error in the result? The increment value is 8256 on a file that the Finder lists as 184,358 bytes. The time it takes is about 1800 ticks. On a valid file its about 20-30 ticks. It looks like MC is a I'm-Not-Gonna-Give-Up loop when it encounters a read error. Seems like it should jump out as soon as it encounters a read error A couple of times MC DID return a Can't read error... but not consistently. Is it larger than the supposed file size returned by the detailed files()? Don't know, but I'll check the results of detailed Files() vs. the finder. Here's one idea if it is: function isValid theFile, fileSize open file theFile for read read from file theFile for 1 at (fileSize+1) put (the result = eof) into vBool close file theFile return vBool end isValid Looks good. I'll try it. I tested a variation here, and it works for valid files. Dunno if it helps any with your invalid ones- that might be hardwired underneath into whatever system file routine is returning the error. Thanks your help. Ray -- Ray G. Miller --- Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: metacard digest, Vol 1 #500 - 10 msgs
I sent, Looks like the ultimate pyramid scheme: Everybody's favorite nerd giving cash to the masses! Mea culpa, Metacardians, mea maxia culpa. This hoax e-mail was intended for another group list I clicked the wrong address. Won't happen again. (I'll split the money Bill sends me with everyone here) -- Ray G. Miller --- Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: metacard digest, Vol 1 #502 - 12 msgs
From: Rodney Tamblyn Simple question How do you determine which tab of a tab button is selected, and is there a way to programmatically set this? Rodney Rodney, Put a similar script in the tabbed btn: on menuPick newTab,oldTab lock screen put oldTab .GRP into hideThisGp put newTab .GRP into showThisGp hide group hideThisGp go this cd unlock screen with visual wipe up fast - lock screen show group showThisGp go this cd unlock screen with visual wipe down fast end menuPick The newTab,oldTab arguments are supplied by MC: it know what's hilited and what you're clicking... -- Ray G. Miller --- Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: metacard digest, Vol 1 #500 - 10 msgs
Yo Coolers, Just got this Confidential message this AM. Looks like the ultimate pyramid scheme: Everybody's favorite nerd giving cash to the masses! - Subject: SORRY EVERYBODY . . . JUST HAD TO TAKE THE CHANCE !!! I'm an attorney and I Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 23:03:46 EST From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SORRY EVERYBODY . . . JUST HAD TO TAKE THE CHANCE !!! I'm an attorney and I know the law. This thing is for real. Rest assured AOL and Intel will follow through with their promises for fear of facing a multimillion-dollar class action suit similar to the one filed by PepsiCo against General Electric not too long ago. Dear Friends, Please do not take this for a junk letter. Bill Gates is sharing his fortune. If you ignore this you will repent later. Microsoft and AOL are now the largest Internet companies and in an effort to make sure that Internet Explorer remains the most widely used program, Microsoft and AOL are running an e-mail beta test. When you forward this e-mail to friends, Microsoft can and will track it (if you are a Microsoft Windows user) for a two week time period. For every person that you forward this e-mail to, Microsoft will pay you $245.00, for every person that you sent it to that forwards it on, Microsoft will pay you $243.00 and for every third person that receives it, you will be paid $241.00. Within two weeks, Microsoft will contact you for your address and then send you a cheque. I thought this was a scam myself, but two weeks after receiving this e-mail and forwarding it on, Microsoft contacted me for my address and within days, I received a cheque for US$24,800.00. You need to respond before the beta testing is over. If anyone can afford this Bill Gates is the man. It's all marketing expense to him. Please forward this to as many people as possible. You are bound to get at least US$10,000.00. We're not going to help them out with their e-mail beta test without getting a little something for our time. My brother's girlfriend got in on this a few months ago. When I went to visit him for the Baylor/UT game. She showed me her check. It was for the sum of $4,324.44 and was stamped Paid In Full. Like I said before, I know the law, and this is for real. Intel and AOL are now discussing a merger which would make them the largest Internet company and in an effort make sure that AOL remains the most widely used program, Intel and AOL are running an e-mail beta test. Try it; what have you got to lose Regards. Charles S. Bailey General Manager Field Operations 1-800-842-2332 Ext. 1085 or 904-245-1085 or RNX 292-1085 [EMAIL PROTECTED] When you forward this e-mail to friends, Intel can and will track it (if you are a Microsoft Windows user) for a two week time period. For every person that you forward this e-mail to, Microsoft will pay you $203.15. For every person that you sent it to that forwards it on, Microsoft will pay you $156.29. And for every third person that receives it, you will be paid $17.65. Within two weeks, Intel will contact you for your address and then send you a check. I thought this was a scam myself, but a friend of my good friend's Aunt Patricia, who works at Intel, actually got a check of $4,543.23 by forwarding this e-mail. Try it, what have you got to lose Regards, Jacqueline Aris, Consultant Email me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]OR[EMAIL PROTECTED] P.O. Box 48271, Tampa, Florida 33647 (888) 706-1757 â|â|. (TaxBrakes Executive) Does this mean that I'll get $245 for everyone on this list? Yahooo! Honey, we're rich Capt'n Cal -- Ray G. Miller --- Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: The Case Of The Reluctant Field
MetaCardians, I said. I've a case where a scrollngfield will NOT take the focus unless it is clicked into with the mouse. This field's properties are identical to the previous 5 fields, i.e.: Traverse on auto tab hilite on fixed line height This Reluctant Field was working properly in the past: tabbed from one field to the next Has anyone has a case where a field changed its properties on its own volition? The Case of the Reluctant Field has been solved. It was not a bug of MC. It was a Case of the TraverseOn set to false for the GROUP! The Reluctant Field was one of three in a group, and I had inadvertently set the TraverseOn property of the group to false as I was cleaning up It's actually a nice feature; a semi-locked field for busy fingers. Ray -- Ray G. Miller --- Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Displaying Boolean expressions
Metacardians, I need to display Boolean expressions in an option style button, such as: = All's well except for the ; the less than symbol. Quoting, both single and double, only displays . Anyone? Ray -- Ray G. Miller --- Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re:Clean it it guys!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Domi) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 07:43:47 +0100 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. Oh you guys, your posts are almost illegible!!! Use plain text instead... -- Regards, (-8 Dominique I'll second that! It takes a few seconds to trim the stuff that's not applicable and switching to plain text should be a requirement for this list... Ray G. Miller --- Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re:The Case Of The Reluctant Field
From: andu [EMAIL PROTECTED] This Reluctant Field was working propery in the past: tabbed from one field to the next Has anyone has a case where a field changed its properties on its own volition? Try to catch the focusedObject and see if the field shows up or not while you tab. Only the lockText seems to be doing that... Yep, tried that. It does NOT show up. I replace the Reluctant Field with a new field. Same problem. (Side note: the editable fields are each in a separate group. Each group has three parts). I replaced the Reluctant Field group with a new group. That worked. All the editable fields NOW work. What's strange is that a field/group could change its strips with no help on my part. Ray G. Miller --- Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re:The Case Of The Reluctant Field
Metacardians, Looks like the field problem season... I've a case where a scrollngfield will NOT take the focus unless it is clicked into with the mouse. This field's properties are identical to the previous 5 fields, i.e.: Taverse on auto tab hilite on fixed line height This Reluctant Field was working propery in the past: tabbed from one field to the next Has anyone has a case where a field changed its properties on its own volition? Ray G. Miller --- Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: MC front end to PostgreSQL
Yo troops, With all this talk about the pleasures of working with HTML, I just couldn't resist sending this along... -- HOW TO BUILD A WEB PAGE IN 25 STEPS 1. Download a piece of Web authoring software ~ 20 minutes. 2. Think about what you want to write on your Web page ~ 6 weeks. 3. Download the same piece of Web authoring software, because they have released 3 new versions since the first time you downloaded it ~ 20 minutes. 4. Decide to just steal some images and awards to put on your site ~ 1 minute. 5. Visit sites to find images and awards, find 5 of them that you like ~ 4 days. 6. Run setup of your Web authoring software. After it fails, download it again ~ 25 minutes. 7. Run setup again, boot the software, click all toolbar buttons to see what they do ~ 15 minutes. 8. View the source of others' pages, steal some, change a few words here and there ~ 4 hours. 9. Preview your Web page using the Web Authoring software ~ 1 minute. 10. Try to horizontally line up two related images ~ 6 hours. 11. Remove one of the images ~ 10 seconds. 12. Set the text's font color to the same color as your background, wonder why all your text is gone ~ 4 hours. 13. Download a counter from your ISP ~ 4 minutes. 14. Try to figure out why your counter reads You are visitor number 16.3 E10 ~ 3 hours. 15. Put 4 blank lines between two lines of text ~ 8 hours. 16. Fine-tune the text, then prepare to load your Web page on your ISP ~ 40 minutes. 17. Accidentally delete your complete web page ~ 1 second. 18. Recreate your web page ~ 2 days. 19. Try to figure out how to load your Web page onto your ISP's server ~ 3 weeks. 20. Call a patient friend to find out about FTP ~ 30 minutes. 21. Download FTP software ~ 10 minutes. 22. Call your friend again ~ 15 minutes. 23. Upload your web page to your ISP's server ~ 10 minutes. 24. Connect to your site on the web ~ 1 minute. 25. Repeat any and all of the previous steps ~ eternity --- Ain't technology wonderful? Ray G. Miller --- Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Metacard beginner question
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said, last but not least, my website has a few hypercard and MC stacks for your enjoyment! http://monsieurx.com Sorry, but this site just load a dark blue screen and stops Ray G. Miller --- Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: the copy command
Ray, put the number of words in fld theAddress into theEnd copy word 1 to theEnd of fld theAddress end copyAddress This does not copy anything. The problem was a lockedText field too much coding and not enough thinking. Thanks Ray Ray G. Miller --- Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:rgmiller;pacbell.net (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Mices scrollwheel
Ken sez, You should just be able to just move the mouse over the field (or click in it to plant an insertion point) and then the scroll wheel should scroll the field. Doesn't do it. Not in MOS 9.2. Is this a feature of MOS X? The scrollWheel works fine in all other apps under 9.2 tho. Ray -- Ray G. Miller --- Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: metacard digest, Vol 1 #311 - 12 msgs
Karl sez: I love that MetaCard has built-in support for mice scrollwheels to scroll text fields in MetaCard. That's great (for Mac OS X). However, is there any way I could get that same behavior for a group with scrollbars? Really? How does one set the mice scrollwheels to scroll text fields? Ray G. Miller --- Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: sticky cursors
Listers, Anyone else notice the sticky cursors? When moving from a text field to a button or scrollbar the cursor remains an I-beam. I'm not setting the cursor at any point. I'm running MC 2.4.3 on a G4 in classic (9.2.2) This should go the bug report in MetaCard, but I can't seem to find the address at www.metacard.com site. On another small matter: besides its unreadablity, is there any advantage using: put url file: myGreatStuffPath.txt into field 1 instead of: open file myGreatStuffPath.txt read file myGreatStuffPath.txt until eof close file myGreatStuffPath.txt The latter admittedly takes three lines of code, but you can see that you are READING the data, and not WRITING the data. Ray --- Ray G. Miller --- Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: background color in script editor windows
Alex, add this bit of code to the card level of your Home stack on MacLookAndFeel set the backcolor of fld editor Field of stack script editor to white set the scriptTextFont to Monaco set the scripttextSize to 12 end MacLookAndFeel Then put : on preOpenStack . . . MacLookAndFeel end preOpenStack Save the stack, quit and restart MC. Remember to type set the set the cantModify of stack home to false in the message box BEFORE trying this. Ray -- Ray G. Miller --- Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re:The New G4 Macs
Hi listers, It's time for me to retire my Trusty 9500 Mac (twice upgraded and currently a G3 300mz with a blurry, blue-streaked 17 inch monitor) to a shinny, new G4, but I'm not really thrilled at the prospect of developing software under MOS X+ So do these new wonder-toys of Mr. Jobs still run MOS 9+ as well as MOS X? Will all my software require upgrading (Ex. Illustrator 8.0, Photoshop 3.5, PageMaker 7.0, Excel 4.0, Claris/AppleWorks 5.0 r1)? Can I salvage all those things hanging off the end of Trusty 9500 that are NOT hotWire or whatTheLastestConnection device is (like HP Scanner, Apple LaserWriter 2g, numerous HDs)? Is the learning curve of MOS X somewhat under 12 months? Is the keyboard and mouse as flimsy as the pictures show? --- On another note: Someone on the list asked what gamma release meant. A few years ago, I was told that the Industry Standard definitions were: Alpha -- We're still trying to figure out what this product will do and what it will look like. There are lots and lots of bugs, and don't be surprised if NOTHING stays the same. Please, please, please, send your bug reports ASAP. Beta -- We kind of know where we're going with this product, but the design is NOT really frozen yet and we know there are still lots of bugs here. Please, please, send your bug reports ASAP. Gamma -- The design is NOW frozen! And we know there are bugs to stamp out. Last chance for you bug report. Release -- Ok, this is all we can do for this design. Don't tell us about bugs, because we're already moving on to the next version... -- Ray G. Miller --- Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: metacard digest, Vol 1 #128 - 16 msgs
Jacque wrote: Anyone know of a way to display a disabled line in a list field like the - (dash) in a button's list? Haven't tried it, but could you set the textcolor of the line to a light grey? Then check the textcolor before operating on a selection; if it is grey then don't do anything. Thx J. I'll see if that's a solution. Ray -- Ray G. Miller --- Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re:Disabling text lines
Listers, Anyone know of a way to display a disabled line in a list field like the - (dash) in a button's list? Are there a flock of little known meta-characters (no pun intended) which can perform wondrous effects (i.e., bold, italics, disabled) on individual lines in these List Fields? Does anyone miss true list objects? Or LDEFs? Ray G. Miller --- Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re:Imported image
Klaus Major said: ??? I never had problems with this... The filename should be empty...??? on mouseup put img 2 into img 1 end mouseup just tested works on win and mac... Isn't computing fun...? ;-) I've found that for best results (i.e., display what you want), I first set the fileName of the object to empty, then set the fileName of the object, then go this card in order to force an update. Computing is fun; quirks are even more hilarious ... ;-) Ray -- Ray G. Miller --- Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: metacard digest, Vol 1 #112 - 8 msgs
Hugh wrote: Try http://www.flexibleLearning.com/xtalk.html for a spellchecker designed for use with Metacard and containing about 130,000 words (390k). Also available, dictionaryBuilder to quickly create customised dictionaries. Thanks Hugh and Ray. Ray -- Ray G. Miller --- Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re:spell checker
Ray wrote: I've got a file which is a simple list of about ten thousand words. It's about 460K. You can make your own from that. Let me know if you want it. Ray Horsley Thanks, Ray and Andrew. Yes, ray, I'd like to look at it. I'll expand the database from your 10K to 45K and see how speedy it is. Ray -- Ray G. Miller --- Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: metacard digest, Vol 1 #108 - 3 msgs
Has anyone on the list developed or found a spell-checker that works in MC? Ray -- Ray G. Miller --- Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: getting dirty
From: Ken Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ray, Actually from my perspective, MC is pretty on-target with SuperCard and HyperCard: 'openField' is triggered when the field gets the focus (it's clicked in or tabbed to), 'leaveField' is triggered when the field loses the focus and no changes to the field have been made, and 'closeField' is triggered when the field loses focus and there *have* been changes to the field. So trap 'closeField' and you know when a field is dirty. Yep, my bad. I was half asleep or my brain was turned off. I had a problem with a single open field stack. I'd first used exitField which ALWAYS send a message when the field lost focus. closeField does what I need: send the dirty message. I'll do 50 thumb pushups for penance, OK? Ray G. Miller --- Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: metacard digest, Vol 1 #53 - 9 msgs
David Bovill said, ... snip... Anyone thought of turning MC's documentation into a video game :) I think it's been done: It was called Adventure and it was very popular on the Apple II. You may recall: You are in a twisty cave... Thre is a lamp here. (G)et (D)rop (L)eft (R)ight (S)traight (U)p (D)own ;() -- Ray G. Miller --- Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: metacard digest, Vol 1 #48 - 13 msgs
Jacq sez: Are bug reported here passed up the food-chain? (Or, when we pray, do the gods hear us?) ...On the other hand, if you want to petition the gods directly, mail bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This method is more attractive because it elmininates the need to kill things. But I really enjoy killing bugs... Ray G. Miller --- Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: bug posting
Hi MClisters, Happy New Year! A simple question: Are bug reported here passed up the food-chain? (Or, when we pray, do the gods hear us?) Ray G. Miller --- Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: metacard digest, Vol 1 #23 - 4 msgs
Shari wrote: I've written the code five different ways looking to increase the speed, as it just crawled. And each time it just got slower. I found the culprit, and I do not understand it... lock screen Taking out that one line (it wasn't in a repeat loop or anything) increased the speed megafold.-- Yep, I noticed the same. I've been commenting all lock screen and set the stack to alwaysBuffer Ray G. Miller --- Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: metacard digest, Vol 1 #21 - 4 msgs
Jeanne A. E. DeVoto wrote: When you start up MC, before you do anything QuickTime-related (such as displaying a player), set the dontUseQT to false. Then try the problematic effects again. Ok, Where is the dontUseQT located? -- Ray G. Miller --- Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Strange Visuals
MetaCardians, Under MC 2.3.2 I notice a strange visual effect--namely none--with the following code from a labeled field (lockText): on mouseUp doSomethingInteresting withBells,andWhistles visual zoom out fast go this card end mouseUp Yet, the following does produce the desired effect: on mouseUp visual zoom out fast go this card doSomethingInteresting withBells,andWhistles end mouseUp The Visual Effect should take place AFTER (in this case), not before the handler operates. Is this caused by the lost focus of the locked fld? The called handler updates a flock of fields and POP buttons, however, the control still resides within the original mouseUp handler, right? Any clues? Ray -- Ray G. Miller --- Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Arrays! We have arrays?!?
I was amazed and delighted to learn MC had array tools! They could be a bazillion times faster than running thru a repeat loop But where are they? I looked under every bushel basket Scott has scattered around but could find nary a mention of array, itemArray, or thingieArray. These neat tools could be used by all, Scott, but just a little hint of their nature and the basic syntax. Even a couple of meaningful examples would be kind. Anyone out there know the source of the documentation for arrays? (Revolution has little to say on this subject, too.) Do squre brackets, [], define an array? Are arrays tab delimited, comma delimited or can any char work? Besides itemArray, what are the other array tools? So many questions, so little doc... How many other undocumented functions are there? [Of course, only Scott knows...] You are in a dark and twisty cave... Your options are Left, Right or Down -- Ray G. Miller --- Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Julia/Zeller date convertor revisited
= 0! put item dayNumber of daysOfTheWeek into weekDay put item tMonth of monthList into thisMonth if theForm = long then return weekDay , thisMonth tDay , tYear else return tMonth / tDay / tYear end if end Julian2Date -- Ray G. Miller --- Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re:Juliean re-visited
Richard Gaskin wrote: Below are two functions derived from Nelson Zink's code to go from standard date format to Julian and back again. I've modified the code into functions, changed the variable names to minimize potential name space conflicts, and added local declarations so they'll work with or without explicitvars on: Richard, I too was not satisfied with the way MC handles (or dosen't!) dates-- 1900 and 2133-- so I re-did your two functions to be able to verify dates that MC can't handle. 1) The pDate variable MUST be a date in long format (E.g.: May 21, 1856) otherwise we're looking at the 20th or 21st CenturyWhenever you use convert to dateitems, MC assumes either 20th or 21st Century. 2) The theForm variable is either long or . If it is empty, the function will return the short date. --- start of script function setTheDate pDate,theForm put Date2Julian(pDate) into jDate put Julian2Date(jDate,theForm) into jDate return jDate end setTheDate function Date2Julian pDate local tYear, tMonth, tDay, aa, bb, cc, dd if / is in pDate then convert pDate to long date put last word of pDate into tYear -- !! catch the year BEFORE the convert. convert pDate to dateitems put item 2 of pDate into tMonth put item 3 of pDate into tDay if tMonth 3 then -- Zeller's Algorithm add 12 to tMonth subtract 1 from tYear end if put trunc(tYear/100) into aa put (2-aa+trunc(aa/4)) into bb put trunc(365.25*tYear) into cc put trunc(30.6001*(tMonth+1)) into dd return (bb+cc+dd+tDay+1720995) end Date2Julian function Julian2Date pJulianDate,theForm local tYear, tDay, tMonth, aa, bb, cc, dd, ee, gg local monthList, daysOfTheWeek, XX ## -- Your language may vary! put January,Feburary,March,April,May,June,July,August, into monthList put September,October,November,December after monthList put Sunday,Monday,Tuesday,Wednesday,Thursday,Friday,Saturday into daysOfTheWeek put trunc((pJulianDate-1867216.25)/36524.25) into aa put pJulianDate+1+aa-trunc(aa/4) into bb Put bb+1524 into cc put trunc((cc-122.1)/365.25) into dd put trunc(365.25*dd) into ee put trunc((cc-ee)/30.6001) into gg -- break into date items put cc-ee-trunc(30.6001*gg) into tDay if gg13.5 then put gg-1 into tMonth else put gg-13 into tMonth if tMonth2.5 then put dd-4716 into tYear else put dd-4715 into tYear put tYear into cYear -- calc the day of the week -- from Zeller's Algorithm put cYear div 100 into centuryYear put cYear mod 100 into centuryYear1 put trunc(2.6 * tMonth - 5.39) into mm1 put trunc(tYear/4) into mm2 put trunc(cYear/4) into mm3 -- watch out for linewrap below! put (mm1 + mm2 + mm3 + tDay + centuryYear1 - (2 * centuryYear)) mod 7 into dayNumber add 1 to dayNumber -- Sunday = 0! put item dayNumber of daysOfTheWeek into weekDay put item tMonth of monthList into thisMonth if theForm = long then return weekDay , thisMonth tDay , tYear else return tMonth / tDay / tYear end if end Julian2Date --- end of script Hope this helps... -- Ray G. Miller --- Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
