Re: Standalone Building
On Oct 8, 2009, at 2:16 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Richard Gaskin wrote: The full sentence in which RunRev's Oliver Kenyon suggested the need for an engine change is worth noting: To fix the issue, we will need to make an engine change, possibly the addition of a repeat for each control loop form. So rather than something irritating, it's actually quite cool: imagine if we had the ease of iterating through controls so simply. Nice stuff - glad to see they're thinking along those lines. Ooohhh...I SO much want this! Been wanting it for years. Fingers crossed. Then add your votes to my enhancement request #1204! t -- Tereza Snyder Califex Software, Inc. www.califexsoftware.com ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: The Aborted Plunge (Metacard to Revolution)
On May 26, 2007, at 8:22 AM, Shari wrote: As for the Ask/Answer issue, they were embedded because I changed the look slightly to be more in line with my program. I, too, changed the look of MC's ask and answer and embedded them in my standalones. I found a general solution to this problem that I've been happy with for a long time: - Rename your custom ask/answer dialogs to something line MyAsk and MyAnswer and make them substacks of your standalone stack. - In the startup handler of your standalone, put statements like: if not(there is a stack ask) then set the name of stack myAsk to ask This means that while you're in the IDE, you'll see the Rev/MC ask and answer dialogs, but in your standalone your custom dialogs will appear. No conflicts. Ever! t -- Tereza Snyder Califex Software, Inc. ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Unknown Publisher warnings
On Dec 9, 2006, at 9:58 PM, Shari wrote: Does anyone know how to make the Win XP Security Warning (Unknown Publisher) go away? Yes, but there's a price tag. This fellow explains it pretty well: http://www.michaellawson.com/?p=14 Evidently, this rigamarole is part of the security apparatus for IE 7! And all I'm doing is running my app from my own Mac Mini server on my own local network! So how does it work with a Rev/MC application? What is it that you (the Rev/MC developer) do? How is it applied to, or included in, an exe? Does it expire every year on published software (it's a yearly license, $100-$400 per year for the developer - but it is incorporated (somehow) in the code of an application - and I presume that once digitally signed, the application stays signed forever; but why would a developer have to keep renewing? or is that just the price of keeping with the program?) Either way, it feels to me like extortion! Not that I could afford it, t -- Tereza Snyder Califex Software, Inc. www.califexsoftware.com ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: UB standalones - FIXED!
On Dec 7, 2006, at 2:17 PM, Tariel Gogoberidze wrote: Tereza, Can you please post this code differences? Thanks in advance Tariel Klaus is changing the official version. But Richard had the key: look in the archive at the group site for the previous 2.7 compatible release: it makes UB standalones that work. I have the impression that we ought to refrain from posting the actual code to this list. After all building standalones is one of the things Runtime Revolution wants to limit to paying customers, and this list is probably too public. I may be wrong, but it won't take Klaus long, I'm sure. t -- Tereza Snyder Califex Software, Inc. www.califexsoftware.com ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: UB standalones - update
On Dec 6, 2006, at 1:54 AM, Wil Dijkstra wrote: Since then I've gone through the process a second time, downloading a new copy of the IDE, making a new runtime engine to build from, and even including Jacque's plist file which works for her to make sure it isn't that. Still no go. Tereza has mentioned a similar experience. Here's my experience: Using Rev 2.7.4, I updated MetaCard per instructions and set up the runtime engines. I made a simple stack with only a quit button and built standalones for PPC and Universal. I modified the plists in both to name the correct executable. The PPC version works. When I look inside the bundle, I see an extraneous MetaCard.app file NEXT TO, not inside, the contents folder. I delete it. The TestPPC.app still works. The TestUB app appears briefly in the dock and disappears. There is an extraneous MetaCard.app in the bundle. I delete it. Still doesn't work. Permissions are correct. (The extraneous MetaCard.app in the bundles appear when there is already a built standalone at the destination location. If I delete the destination .app first, the extra copy doesn't appear. However, my ultimate goal is to upgrade my own standalone builder which changes only the executable within the bundle because I store all my app's files (e.g. LOTS of graphics) INSIDE the bundle. Whatever my motivation, I still cannot get the straight, normal MetaCard SB to make a viable UB standalone, much less my own refactored SB.) I'm using a PowerPC G5, MacOS 10.4.8. I don't have an Intel Mac to work with. Klaus, Jacque: Do you know what exact, specific difference there is between the PPC and UB build process? Or what incantation can make it work? I'm attempting to get my own Standalone Builder to work and it's... very [expletive deleted] frustrating . t -- Tereza Snyder Califex Software, Inc. www.califexsoftware.com ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: UB standalones - FIXED!
On Dec 6, 2006, at 2:33 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: I found the issue: I can build standalones with the version of the MC IDE or v2.7 in the Archives section of the Yahoo Group, but not the one in the main listing above it. Yay! it worked for me too! t -- Tereza Snyder Califex Software, Inc. www.califexsoftware.com ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: UB standalones - FIXED!
On Dec 6, 2006, at 2:53 PM, Tereza Snyder wrote: On Dec 6, 2006, at 2:33 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: I found the issue: I can build standalones with the version of the MC IDE or v2.7 in the Archives section of the Yahoo Group, but not the one in the main listing above it. Yay! it worked for me too! There is a difference: a bit of code that looks like an unnecessary duplicate actually isn't. I made the change in my own standalone builder and finally, the UB standalone runs! And it was SO OBVIOUS (in retrospect), too! Thanks Richard, I would never have thought to run the old one. t -- Tereza Snyder Califex Software, Inc. www.califexsoftware.com ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Another MC-Rev anomaly: text of image property
On Nov 7, 2006, at 2:11 PM, Chipp Walters wrote:Even though Fireworks can create images in native Window Gamma, does it really pass the test I outlined above? I would be very surprised if it did.I assume this is the test you propose:Import them all into Rev on a PC. They all look the same. Then view the same stack on a Mac. The PNG image looks considerably lighter. This continues to be a problem when designing interfaces between the 2 platforms. I develop on a Mac, and that might affect what I see. My images look the same on both platforms, (i.e. just as light/dark on Windows as on the Mac) BUT colors in images fail to match the backcolors of objects that they did match on the Mac.)-- Tereza Snyder Califex Software, Inc. www.califexsoftware.com ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Holy moley! First test of Revolution versus Metacard
On Aug 31, 2006, at 7:20 PM, Shari wrote: So you embed your [ask and answer] stacks with some other name, and have the startup sequence rename them every time it launches? Yep, though not when the application I'm making doesn't need them. I've never had a problem with it. t -- Tereza Snyder Califex Software, Inc. www.califexsoftware.com ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Holy moley! First test of Revolution versus Metacard
On Aug 31, 2006, at 6:57 AM, Shari wrote: Now that I have Revolution up and running and Metacard 2.7 up and running I thought I'd open my biggest fully finished project and see how it fared with both. ... The stack opens. But the Revolution IDE does not like that I have standard stacks installed in the stack. (For ease of Standalone building, a long time ago I installed custom versions of Ask, Answer, Message etc. in the stack so that I would not have to import them every time I built a standalone.) The Message box in particular gives it fits. I could not determine whether my password protections were still in place. (The Message Box errors seemed to override most of what I tried to experiment with.) Hi Shari, When I need the standard stacks in my standalones, I make copies of them and include the copies as substacks of my splash stack. Then on startup, I rename the stacks with: if not(there is a stack xxx) then set the name of stack copy of xxx to xxx This also makes a way for me to customize the appearance or behavior of the standard stacks so they fit with my application. But I'm curious, when would you need the message box in a finished application? Rev's message box, with its extra features, would hardly be suitable, though MetaCard's plain ole box would I suppose be more neutral. t -- Tereza Snyder Califex Software, Inc. www.califexsoftware.com ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: room for an open source alternative
On Aug 31, 2006, at 2:52 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: In addition to the sort of layout and construction tasks the MC and Rev IDEs have traditionally focused on, my forked IDE (working name M2) will also include support for the superset of tasks ranging from project management to product management. These new areas of support are largely driven by RIP properties (see http:// groups.yahoo.com/group/revInterop/), so they should be fully interoperable with any other tools which also follow those open recommendations. So if any of you here have opinions about new ways we might expand MC but have been reluctant to recommend them for that IDE and don't want to put in the effort to make your own forked project, maybe there's a way we can divvy up work on this skunkworks version as a playground for these ideas. I too have amassed a great wad of personal support tools for both MC and RR, many of which are clunky echoes of what RG has released. I never seem to have the time to polish them for others to use, though eventually I demand enough new features from myself that they become almost... quite nearly... just about... but not ACTUALLY ready for prime time. I would love to have incentive to push them over the edge. Many of my tools pertain to managing projects: loading, saving, building, versioning, and archiving. Others pertain to image manipulation and color management. Most though, are just too project- specific. Include me in. t -- Tereza Snyder Califex Software, Inc. www.califexsoftware.com ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: MC IDE: Passing the Poohbah torch and more
On Jun 21, 2006, at 10:32 PM, Ken Ray wrote: I have to say, Richard agreed to be our grand poohbah for six months, and it has stretched out to something like several years. Thanks for all your efforts and the wonderful job you've done, Richard. We all appreciate it very much. Hear, hear! :-) Hear hear! -- Tereza Snyder Califex Software, Inc. www.califexsoftware.com ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: ColorizeScript challenge
On Apr 26, 2006, at 7:03 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: I got involved a bit yesterday too, and I found myself concentrating on the comments: put offset(#,tLine) into tOff1 put offset(--,tLine) into tOff2 if tOff1 0 or tOff2 0 then if tOff1 = 0 then put tOff2 into tOff1 else if tOff2 = 0 then put tOff1 into tOff2 end if put char min(tOff1,tOff2) to -1 of tLine into tComment delete char min(tOff1,tOff2) to -1 of tLine else put empty into tComment end if Did you know that // is a valid comment marker, too? Around 1997, I was grousing to Scott Raney about switching back and forth between C+ + and MetaCard. He snuck the // comments in the next update where I discovered it by the usual accident no longer an error! I gave up my comment fiddling - I'm under some project pressure - but I was testing by colorizing my test script, where I found that -- and # in quotes were a real problem. Which of course brings up the whole issue of quoted strings containing keywords t -- Tereza Snyder Califex Software, Inc. 800 Water Street Sauk City, WI 53583 608.643.2586 AIM: terezasnyder1 ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: ColorizeScript challenge
On Apr 27, 2006, at 10:31 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: And I don't colorize my scripts. How pathetic are we? Make sure Richard buys you a nice meal. I don't colorize either. What a couple of saps. That makes three of us. :) four! t -- Tereza Snyder Califex Software, Inc. 800 Water Street Sauk City, WI 53583 608.643.2586 AIM: terezasnyder1 ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: GIF doesn't display properly
on 09.28.03 9:17 AM, kweto wrote: So, now my tentative conclusion is that the problem appears stack-related. And yet, why would two stacks that rely on an image object's file-path to display GIFs mysteriously result in the *same* GIF with the *same* path being displayed so differently ? Hmmm Oh well, if this one remains a mystery forever, I can live with that. Maybe. At this point, I'd suspect a stack property... alwaysBuffer, maybe? Or the bufferHiddenImages global? When I had this problem with a multi-frame GIF, setting its constantmask to true fixed it. tereza + Tereza Snyder + Senior Software Developer + Attainment Company, Inc. + www.attainmentcompany.com + 800.327.4269 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Moving the MC IDE forward
on 07.09.03 1:20 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Things we need to decide: - Is Yahoo Groups acceptable as a groupware solution for this project? With its discussion list, file repository, calendar, and links it gets my vote, but there may be things I'm overlooking. - If so, is it simpler to alter the existing group or create a new one? It seems like a good solution, and a good group to use. It hasn't had much traffic since the action moved to the MetaCard list at RunRev. + Tereza Snyder + Senior Software Developer + Attainment Company, Inc. + www.attainmentcompany.com + 800.327.4269 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Help! Has anyone compiled an external for OS X?
on 06.06.03 11:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You *should* be able to add a target for a mach-o bundle and compile with the mach-o precompiled header in place of the Carbon, PPC, 68k, etc. You'll need to add frameworks (instead of libraries) to the target- i.e. Carbon.framework or others you may need such as Quicktime. Other than that, the example external code should compile into a bundle for you with little modification. Follow the install procedure from my previous email and you *should* be golden... With your encouragement, Brian, I will soldier on! Does the .bundle file go in the MacOS folder inside contents inside the .app? Can it? Should it? Must it? I *shall* succeed! (I gotta!) Thanks again, tereza + Tereza Snyder + Senior Software Developer + Attainment Company, Inc. + www.attainmentcompany.com + 800.327.4269 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Help! Has anyone compiled an external for OS X?
A year ago, I worked on an external for PPC and for Windows. I remember that getting everything right was a nightmare, but I succeeded in compiling, debugging, testing, installing, and deploying both using Codewarrior. Now I need to make a new external for Mac OS X and I find I'm completely at sea. The 2.5 readme says: Externals must now be in Mach-O bundle format on Mac OS X. Updated projects are included in the Mac OS X package. No such thing. I downloaded the external.sit file. I saw that there is a CodeWarrior project and I thought, halleluiah, there really is a project already set up! I'll be able to see what libraries are needed and where to put the output. I'm in business! If you've tried it, you know what I discovered. The external.proj doesn't have a mach-o target, only a Carbon, a 68K, a PPC, a Fat target. There are some mach-o files in the external Data folder, but CodeWarrior won't do anything with them. The readme is the same old readme. The tutorial is the same old tutorial (that requires you to compile the external before it will guide experienced 'C' programmers through the process of customizing a MetaCard external Huh!). The source files are the same old source files. Once upon a time I was an experienced 'C' programmer. There are half a dozen money-earning apps out there to prove it. But the compilers have changed and the OS has changed while I've been grinding out MetaCard apps. Has total immersion in MetaCard dulled my mind? I'm flummoxed. Can anyone out there start me off with a CodeWarrior project that's set up to produce a MetaCard external for MacOS X, and a little guidance as to where/how to put the output binary? I have both CW 7 and CW 8. Exasperated again, tereza + Tereza Snyder + Senior Software Developer + Attainment Company, Inc. + www.attainmentcompany.com + 800.327.4269 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Type 2 error additional info
on 05.30.03 8:07 PM, Shari wrote: Does anyone know how to pull errors out of the console/terminal window in Jaguar (whatever the divil that DOS like thang is called...) Open the console application and check Eenable crash reporting and Automatically display crash logs in the preferences. From that moment on, any OS X application that crashes will cause the console log and the crash log for the application to appear. You will be able to copy the crash data for the crash from MetaCard's crash log to send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just be sure you take only the data for the specific crash. (I have more than once sent Scott the wrong crash data! Embarrassing!) tereza + Tereza Snyder + Senior Software Developer + Attainment Company, Inc. + www.attainmentcompany.com + 800.327.4269 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Standalones and file icons
on 10.11.02 7:56 AM, Shari wrote: I have a standalone, with embedded stacks, and with external stacks. The standalone has a creator code and custom icons, and all is well. I want the external stacks to also have custom icons, different from the standalone, but nothing I've tried gets the icons to stick. ... What specifically, needs to be done, to have stacks with custom icons? The stacks are part of the standalone program, mostly to save data into, but have other uses as well. Here's what I do: Create icon resources for your auxiliary stacks, and set them up in the BNDL resource to apply to files of type 'MSTK'. Save your auxiliary stacks with stackfiletype MYAPMSTK where MYAP is your creator code. Now, so long as you don't save the auxiliary stacks from the development environment without setting the stackfiletype, they should display your icon in the finder. You may need to rebuild the desktop for the change to appear. But to keep myself sane, I separate this task from development per se by making it part of the build process. I run a lockup utility script before building a standalone, that loads all my auxiliary stacks into memory one at a time with lockmessages true, runs lockup on each (a handler in the stack script that empties fields that ought to be empty, etc.) and saves each with the correct stackfiletype into my distribution directory. In addition, I've modified the standalone builder script to add resources (like the BNDL resource, a version resource, and the icons) to my application from a separate resource file during the build. After all, it doesn't matter what icons those stacks have on my development machine - it's the distribution that counts. Hope this helps, tereza + Tereza Snyder + Senior Software Developer + Attainment Company, Inc. + www.attainmentcompany.com + 800.327.4269 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: MetaCard 2.4.3 build 5/6
on 09.21.02 1:37 PM, Scott Raney wrote: The Mac OS X engine is currently stuck at build 4. There are a few things that Jaguar (Mac OS X 10.2) broke, but unfortunately they're mostly problems with Jaguar itself that we must wait for Apple to fix. I need to build a macOS X version of the GoTalk Overlay Software that prints images with alpha channels. And I need to do it soon. Is there any hope? I've pretty much given up hope of figuring out the wont run problem. The previous version I had on hand does run, and its date is the same. But it has the bug I reported earlier, where stacks opened on the second monitor come up blank. Is this one of those problems with Jaguar you mentioned? Have you tested 10.2.1? (I don't have it yet to try it.) I wish you smooth sailing with 2.5, tereza ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: MetaCard 2.4.3 build 5/6 --oops
Sorry all, Please ignore my previous post. It was meant for Scott alone. Darn that Reply button! tereza + Tereza Snyder + Senior Software Developer + Attainment Company, Inc. + www.attainmentcompany.com + 800.327.4269 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: MetaCard 2.4.3 beta 2
on 07.03.02 05:56 AM, Ernst M. Reicher wrote: In the readMe it reads: *** MetaCard 2.4.3 release notes * The messages suspend and resume are sent when the application loses and gains the keyboard focus, respectively. ... suspend and resume don´t work predictable... ... I'm finding some unpredictability, too. In Windows, I get many many suspend and resume messages; on PPC, I receive only one suspend or resume message, but only if hidepalettes is true. If hidepalettes is false, I don't get either message. tereza + Tereza Snyder + Senior Software Developer + Attainment Company, Inc. + www.attainmentcompany.com + 800.327.4269 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Carbon backdrop plea for help
Hiya all, My long-suffering application is in its final birth throes - about to go to the QA company for testing - and I have a problem that will probably cause me to withhold the Carbon version, unless someone can help me work around it. I usually develop in a Mac Classic environment and test in Windows - for this app, Carbon is a tertiary concern. My problem revolves around a bug in MetaCard Carbon that I've reported, but isn't yet fixed and I can't wait for the next MetaCard release. My app allows the user to create documents, perhaps many of them will be open at once. In addition, it has a couple of palettes and auxiliary windows, it has a cover desktop/reveal desktop option in the file menu (which sets/empties the backdrop property) so users can declutter their workspace. In the Carbon version running in both Classic and OS X, when the user switches out of the application and then back in (by whatever means), the document windows move behind the backdrop. In the Carbon app running in classic, the documents even move themselves behind the backdrop when they're updated after being created! SuspendStack/resumeStack are stack- (i.e. Window-) level messages, not application-level. AFAIK there's no way for my application to know when it's been suspended. The only way to bring the document windows to the front is for the user to pick reveal desktop (i.e. set the backdrop to empty) then pick hide desktop. No user will stand still for that. I'm open to any suggestion. tereza + Tereza Snyder + Senior Software Developer + Attainment Company, Inc. + www.attainmentcompany.com + 800.327.4269 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Directory puzzle
hi all, I have made a file selector dialog for my application which has developed a problem in Windows 2000 which puzzles me: I have a path //hostnt/library/tereza/gotalk (which is an existing directory), and I type in the msg box: put there is a directory //hostnt/library/tereza/gotalk MetaCard puts true then I type: put there is a directory //hostnt/library/tereza --true then I type: put there is a directory //hostnt/library --false My scripts are doing the same, and getting the same output. Is there some Windows or network thingy happening? Adding a / to the end makes no difference. What can I do? What's going on? Going crazy, tereza + Tereza Snyder + Senior Software Developer + Attainment Company, Inc. + www.attainmentcompany.com + 800.327.4269 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Compressing stacks - is it possible?
Hi all, Is it possible to compress a stack, save it to disk, then later read it, decompress it and presto! have a stack again? I don't think so, but maybe? tereza + Tereza Snyder + Senior Software Developer + Attainment Company, Inc. + www.attainmentcompany.com + 800.327.4269 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Compressing stacks - is it possible?
on 02.21.02 08:11PM, Scott Rossi wrote: FWIW, one thing I've done is to compress sounds, import the compressed data into a custom property in a stack, and later write the sounds to the drive and decompress them for playback. I assume the same will work fine with stacks. Are you saying I can script set the MyCustomProperty of stack mystack to stack stackToCompress ? I just get source is not a container. I see that I could write the stack to disk, then read it as a binfile, compress it, then write the compressed data out again. To reconstitute it, I guess I'd have to read the compressed file as a data, decompress it as a data, write it out as data again, then open the file as a stack. I was hoping there would be a way to get MetaCard to treat a stack in memory (not a file) as a lump of data to compress. I have about 1000 small stacks to put on a CD. I guess it won't kill me to have the stack-indexer-and-writer-outer script read-write-read-write each stack to get them onto the CD when I prepare it for distribution, but I don't like having to read-write-read stacks to open them for the end user. So, no one knows a way to coerce MetaCard to treat a stack in memory as text? ever hopeful, tereza + Tereza Snyder + Senior Software Developer + Attainment Company, Inc. + www.attainmentcompany.com + 800.327.4269 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: XY
on 01.25.02 01:19PM, Nelson Zink wrote: Tereza, To avoid bottling up the engine servicing your loop: on mouseMove mX, mY put format( horz: %d vert: %d, mX, mY ) end mouseMove Scott Raney has told us in the past that repeat until the mouseClick is not a good idea because it bolixes up the event handling in the engine. I've found that mouseMove works wonderfully in situations where you'd be tempted to use repeat until the mouse is up or similar loops. While mousemove seems straight forward, how would one go about turning it on and off as might be needed in the XY function? something like: (NOT A REAL SCRIPT) LOCAL tXY = false on XY put true into tXY end XY on mouseMove mX,mY if tXY then if the mouse is down then put false into tXY else -- do XY stuff end if end mouseMove another way: on XY, insert a script containing the code temporarily into the front, and remove it on mouseup + Tereza Snyder + Senior Software Developer + Attainment Company, Inc. + www.attainmentcompany.com + 800.327.4269 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: xy
on 01.23.02 04:29 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: new and improved... no flashy text... on xy repeat until the mouseClick get the mouseLoc horz:the mouseH vert:the mouseV if it is not lastxy then put it put it into lastxy end if end repeat end xy To avoid bottling up the engine servicing your loop: on mouseMove mX, mY put format( horz: %d vert: %d, mX, mY ) end mouseMove Scott Raney has told us in the past that repeat until the mouseClick is not a good idea because it bolixes up the event handling in the engine. I've found that mouseMove works wonderfully in situations where you'd be tempted to use repeat until the mouse is up or similar loops. tereza + Tereza Snyder + Senior Software Developer + Attainment Company, Inc. + www.attainmentcompany.com + 800.327.4269 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Change font of script editor in MC 2.3.2
on 01.03.02 09:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to change the font used in the script editor (MC 2.3.2 - Win32). I know I can change it while I am editing but I want to be able to change the default used for every script. I use a font (on the Mac) called ProFont, which exaggerates the characters of interest to programmers: numbers, certain punctuation, I vs l etc. To get MetaCard to use it, I run a customizing script in my private utilities stack every time I get a new MCTools stack. The script changes the TextFont of the editor field in the stack script editor (which is a substack of the MetaCard Menu Bar stack). Save the tools stack after the change, and there you go! But be sure you haven't opened any scripts during the session when you run the customizing script, or extra copies of the script editor (Script Editor 1, etc.) will be saved along with the prototype script editor stack (plain Script Editor) and they won't have the new font. In my customizing script, I also set the default positions of the palettes, change colors, and other details. tereza + Tereza Snyder + Senior Software Developer + Attainment Company, Inc. + www.attainmentcompany.com + 800.327.4269 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: (no subject)
on 12.13.01 08:42 AM, Eva Isotalo wrote: I'm getting following error message when using a stack which worked on MC 2.3. I don't know how to respond, if I have some strange programming or if it is something else. Object: button Script... of card Execution Error Card of stack Execution Error of stack D:MC2.4-1/mctools.mc When checking, it markes the line in: on mouseUp editScript the long id of the errorobject of this card end mouseUp What should I do here? The error handling was changed in the recent version of MetaCard 2.4.1 (read the readme -- I skipped over it until I got caught by something similar). The errorobject is now defined differently. See the scripts in card 1 of the executionError stack. tereza + Tereza Snyder + Senior Software Developer + Attainment Company, Inc. + www.attainmentcompany.com + 800.327.4269 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: [Metacard] OS X: 'icns' resources?
Recently, Richard Gaskin wrote: Anyone know where on Apple's site they have the info on how to create 'icns' resources? then on 11.26.01 02:44PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Not on Apple's site, but here's a utility for doing so: http://www.mscape.com/products/iconographer.html If you use Photoshop or a photoshop-plugin-compatible graphics editor like Fireworks, check out : http://www.iconfactory.com/ t + Tereza Snyder + Senior Software Developer + Attainment Company, Inc. + www.attainmentcompany.com + 800.327.4269 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Inquiry for graphics external
On Monday, November 12, 2001,I wrote: Does anyone have a Mac/Win external that I could use to manipulate graphics images - rotate, scale, crop - to supplement or replace MetaCard 2.4 built-in functions? MetaCard's implementation introduces very noticeable distortions, especially with images that have alpha channels. Unfortunately, my application encourages users to crop, scale, rotate, and flip the images they import. and Kevin James suggested: Have you considered using java applets? They are prone to all the problems of java ... slow, differing behaviors with platform-specific interpreters, etc. ... but could be a temporary fix (need is immediate) to buy you some time. They are also cross-platform by default, platform-specific issues notwithstanding. My specific need is to use MC as a front end for a medical image archive of xrays, ct and mri data, etc. Functions such as leveling, rotating, cropping etc. are essential for viewing these sorts of images. In lieu of externals, my current approach is to use MC as front end for both uploading and viewing images ... data such as patient name, etc. are written to a webserved database and the image is ftp'ed to the appropriate location. To view the images, I have MC launch a browser with a URL that finds images based on the user's search criteria, such as name, medical record #, etc. This results page is formatted in such a way that each image is represented by several hyperlinks corresponding to multiple ways to view the image. You can view the image as is as a regular jpeg in your browser, use a simple java applet which basically allows you to zoom in and out, or use the feature-rich ImageJ, a public domain project of the National Institutes of Health which bills itself as the world's fastest pure Java image processing program. Check it out: http://rsb.info.nih.gov/ij/applet2/ [snip] Wow! amazing stuff. I can't imitate your approach in my application (where my users are creating, combining, printing, and saving documents (stacks) containing images and text and more) but I lust for the features I saw in my quick exploration of ImageJ! Thanks for the link tereza + Tereza Snyder + Senior Software Developer + Attainment Company, Inc. + www.attainmentcompany.com + 800.327.4269 Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Inquiry for graphics external
on 11.12.01 05:01PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday, November 12, 2001,I wrote: Does anyone have a Mac/Win external that I could use to manipulate graphics images - rotate, scale, crop - to supplement or replace MetaCard 2.4 built-in functions? MetaCard's implementation introduces very noticeable distortions, especially with images that have alpha channels. Unfortunately, my application encourages users to crop, scale, rotate, and flip the images they import. to which Mark Talluto replied: I am not a big fan of externals as there is always the potential of not having it for the platform you need. Since MC has implemented most of these features, I would write into Scott and discuss what needs to be improved in a future version. I will be using these new image features too in the next few weeks too. If they are not working right as good as they could, maybe something could be done internally to improve them. This would be best for all I believe. I agree 100%. Sorry, I ought to have mentioned that I _have_ corresponded with Scott about the distortions in the image operations; and I'm confident that they'll improve eventually, but my need is immediate and it's not a high priority for Scott. Does anyone know of a dual-platform interface to QuickTime 2D Graphics functions? I've only ever compiled externals for the Mac, not Windows. I'd welcome anything that would boost me over the learning curve. tereza + Tereza Snyder + Senior Software Developer + Attainment Company, Inc. + www.attainmentcompany.com + 800.327.4269 Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Inquiry for graphics external
Does anyone have a Mac/Win external that I could use to manipulate graphics images - rotate, scale, crop - to supplement or replace MetaCard 2.4 built-in functions? MetaCard's implementation introduces very noticeable distortions, especially with images that have alpha channels. Unfortunately, my application encourages users to crop, scale, rotate, and flip the images they import. Is there any hope? tereza + Tereza Snyder + Senior Software Developer + Attainment Company, Inc. + www.attainmentcompany.com + 800.327.4269 Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
tree field redux
Hello all, I'm sure many of you were as interested as I was in José Luis Rodríguez' tree field. As it happens, I had an immediate use for it. In adapting it for my needs, I ended up modifying it extensively, although my version is for MetaCard 2.4 only. If anyone would like a copy, please email me. new features: - optional images for handles - can return full path to selected line - can uniformly expand outline to any level - can return full expansion of outline without handles - can limit clicks for expansion to handles only In addition the scripts demonstrate the use of recursion and setprop/getprop handlers. tereza + Tereza Snyder + Senior Software Developer + Attainment Company, Inc. + www.attainmentcompany.com + 800.327.4269 Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Rollovers,URLs, and a Wish
on 09.10.01 3:13 PM, Ken Ray wrote: Sorry to ask, but what does the hilite icon NOT do that you would want in a rollover effect? Perhaps I'm just being naive here... As I wrote in an earlier post: I found that if you set the armed icon, and set auto-arm to true so that it shows when you roll over the button, the hilite icon no longer shows when you actually click the button. I've had to fall back to how I used to do rollovers (mouseenter, mouseleave, etc). I guess the distinction is that rollovers don't require the mouse to be down. tereza + Tereza Snyder + Senior Software Developer + Attainment Company, Inc. + www.attainmentcompany.com + 800.327.4269 Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Hiding and showing the backdrop
Hi all, I've designed my current project with a buttonbar at the top of the screen and I'm using the backdrop to hide the desktop if the user prefers it. However, I'd like the backdrop to disappear when the user switches to another application and I can't for the life of me figure out how. SuspendStack doesn't suit because the user will be activating different stacks and the SuspendStack message is sent both when switching out of MetaCard AND when switching stacks. There seems not to be a specialized message for suspending the application. Palette windows disappear when switching out of MetaCard (when hidePalettes is true), but there seems to be no message sent on that occasion (the docs say the palettes are _closed_, but it appears they're only hidden(which makes sense). Does anyone know a solution? tereza + Tereza Snyder +Software Developer + Attainment Company, Inc. + www.attainmentcompany.com + 608.845.7880 Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: State icons -- missing rollover?
on 07.18.01 8:24 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: The READ ME for 2.4 sez: Buttons now have a wider range of icon properties to make state-based display easier. The full set is: armedIcon, disabledIcon, hilitedIcon, icon, and visitedIcon. No rollover? I'm assuming that armed is the native (or up) state. I did some testing after a post from Tuviah I think??? about the armedIcon and it works a bit like a rollover but not all the time. I couldn't work out the behaviour. I guess it's meant more for custome menu pannels than anything else. That was me. I found that if you set the armed icon, and set auto-arm to true so that it shows when you roll over the button, the hilite icon no longer shows when you actually click the button. I've had to fall back to how I used to do rollovers (mouseenter, mouseleave, etc). tereza + Tereza Snyder +Software Developer + Attainment Company, Inc. + www.attainmentcompany.com + 608.845.7880 Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: how do I turn off the focusColor?
on 07.17.01 12:34 PM, Scott Raney wrote: 2) Make it apply to all objects (i.e., buttons and players also get a focus border in the Motif look and feel, and it might be nice to be able to turn this off). 3) Make it global or an inheritable stack property. In my projects, either I want focus borders everywhere (a conventional text-entry app) or I don't want them anywhere (an educational quasi-game). So I guess I'd back method 2 and/or 3. t + Tereza Snyder +Software Developer + Attainment Company, Inc. + www.attainmentcompany.com + 608.845.7880 Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
2.4b2 hilited armed icons
I have some buttons that should display one icon when enabled, another when disabled, another when rolled over, and yet another when hilited (clicked, or set from script). I thought the new armedIcon and disabledIcon button properties would do the trick, but it seems the armed and hilited properties don't work the way my mental model does. If I have both autoArm and autoHilite set to true, only the armedIcon is used, even when the user clicks the button. If I set autoArm to false, the button shows no rollover behavior of course, but it does display the hiliteIcon while the mouse is down as buttons always have. I haven't used 'autoArm' much in the past. Is this the way it's supposed to act? If so, does anyone have a method for getting the behavior I'm after? tereza + Tereza Snyder +Software Developer + Attainment Company, Inc. + www.attainmentcompany.com + 608.845.7880 Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Screen resolution
Richard Gaskin wrote: we feel pretty confident about designing for 800x600 for everything except some apps designed specifically for public education or other markets with a disproportionate percentage of older machines Since public educators are the market for the company I work for, I proceed in the opposite fashion: only a few higher-level administrative programs require 800*600; any application designed for classroom use must accommodate 640*480. tereza Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
