Re: Questons to IDE 4

2010-01-07 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Ken and all,

 I am currently working on the new MC IDE 4 and while I am at this,
 there are some questions concerning the output of the new standalone
 building process.
 
 OS X:
 Would you like to output
 a: ppc, fat AND intel apps at the same time like Rev does?
 This would require to create subfolder(s) in the target directory!
 
 b: ppc OR fat OR intel apps = only one app at a time?
 
 Personally, I only do Universal, and eventually I'll only do Intel since
 Apple stopped using PPC processors. So I'd vote for (b) myself, but it
 wouldn't bother me to have (a). :-)

OK, the opinions were 50/50 so far so I will use a just like Rev does with 
subfolders for each standalone.

 Will also add an updated version of Ken Rays Varaible Watcher.
 Thanks for the reminder, Klaus... how soon do you see making this available?
 (I just want to know how much time I have to get the VW ready...)

In the next two weeks I hope! I will send you a mail when I am ready to ship.


P.S.
Any volunteers for a palette or something for the new bitmap effects/gradients?
Putting this into the existing Properties stack is too much work for my 
little time, sorry.

 Ken Ray
 Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
 Email: k...@sonsothunder.com
 Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/

Best

Klaus

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Re: Questons to IDE 4

2010-01-07 Thread Tariel Gogoberidze

On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 16:30:08 -0600. Landman Gay wrote:
 
 
 Ken Ray wrote:
 
 Thanks for the reminder, Klaus... how soon do you see making this available?
 (I just want to know how much time I have to get the VW ready...)
 
 Oh, I'm sure no one will mind waiting a few hours. Take your time. :)
 
 Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com


Right, and I will always remember that day on Monterey conference when me and 
Richard went biking and Ken said he will look at VW code  ( I believe he never 
looked at it's code before).
So, couple of hours later when we returned, VW was completely hacked and 
already modified with new ability to click on variable in script editor and 
have it selected in VW.
Now, mind you, VW is a complicated peace of code and you can't debug it or 
trace variables in it's code for obvious reasons.


Tariel
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Re: Questons to IDE 4

2010-01-06 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Klaus on-rev kl...@major.on-rev.com wrote:

 Hi friends,

 I am currently working on the new MC IDE 4 and while I am at this,
 there are some questions concerning the output of the new standalone
 building process.

 OS X:
 Would you like to output
 a: ppc, fat AND intel apps at the same time like Rev does?
 This would require to create subfolder(s) in the target directory!

 b: ppc OR fat OR intel apps = only one app at a time?


The RunRev 4 standalone builder CAN churn out PPC, FAT ('Universal') and
INTEL
apps all at once; 2 out of 3, or only 1.

It would be nice if Metacard 4 could do much the same.

I think subfolders called MACPPC, MACMIXT/FAT/UNIVERSAL/CONFUSING and
MACINTEL would be useful for stupid types like me who might have forgotten
which
types of standalones they had chosen to spin off.



 Know what I mean?


 -
 What else will be new in 4.0:
 - Added new stack to locate the Rev standalone engines.
 - uses new function mcPrefsFolder to store the info in a text file.
 See below...

 MetaCard Menu Bar:
 - Added backscript to not only move but also resize objects with the
 arrowkeys
 - when pressing the ALT-key additionally.
 - Thanks to Richard Gaskin for the scripts!

 - Added function mcPrefsFolder to backscript which returns:
 - Mac: specialFolderPath(preferences)
 - Windows (= 2000): specialFolderPath(26)
 - Windows (95/96/97/98/99/ME): specialfolderpath(system)
 - Linux: $HOME
 - A subfolder MetaCard will be created there
 - Hint: This function also returns the neccessary trailing slash!
 (We should use this folder for all new preferences from now on!)

 - Added a new Menu Window, where you can easily switch windows.

 -

 Will also add an updated version of Ken Rays Varaible Watcher.

 Hint:
 To build standalones for OS Classic you will need to open the old
 Standalone Builder. I supplied a button to open that stack in the latest
 Standalone Builder stack.


 Best

 Klaus

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Re: Questons to IDE 4

2010-01-06 Thread Ken Ray

 
 I am currently working on the new MC IDE 4 and while I am at this,
 there are some questions concerning the output of the new standalone
 building process.
 
 OS X:
 Would you like to output
 a: ppc, fat AND intel apps at the same time like Rev does?
 This would require to create subfolder(s) in the target directory!
 
 b: ppc OR fat OR intel apps = only one app at a time?

Personally, I only do Universal, and eventually I'll only do Intel since
Apple stopped using PPC processors. So I'd vote for (b) myself, but it
wouldn't bother me to have (a). :-)
 
 Will also add an updated version of Ken Rays Varaible Watcher.

Thanks for the reminder, Klaus... how soon do you see making this available?
(I just want to know how much time I have to get the VW ready...)


Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
Email: k...@sonsothunder.com
Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/


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Re: Questons to IDE 4

2010-01-06 Thread J. Landman Gay

Ken Ray wrote:


Thanks for the reminder, Klaus... how soon do you see making this available?
(I just want to know how much time I have to get the VW ready...)


Oh, I'm sure no one will mind waiting a few hours. Take your time. :)

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Questons to IDE 4

2010-01-03 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi friends,

I am currently working on the new MC IDE 4 and while I am at this,
there are some questions concerning the output of the new standalone
building process.

OS X:
Would you like to output
a: ppc, fat AND intel apps at the same time like Rev does?
This would require to create subfolder(s) in the target directory!

b: ppc OR fat OR intel apps = only one app at a time?

Know what I mean?

-
What else will be new in 4.0:
- Added new stack to locate the Rev standalone engines.
- uses new function mcPrefsFolder to store the info in a text file.
See below...

MetaCard Menu Bar:
- Added backscript to not only move but also resize objects with the arrowkeys
- when pressing the ALT-key additionally.
- Thanks to Richard Gaskin for the scripts!

- Added function mcPrefsFolder to backscript which returns:
- Mac: specialFolderPath(preferences)
- Windows (= 2000): specialFolderPath(26) 
- Windows (95/96/97/98/99/ME): specialfolderpath(system) 
- Linux: $HOME
- A subfolder MetaCard will be created there
- Hint: This function also returns the neccessary trailing slash!
(We should use this folder for all new preferences from now on!)

- Added a new Menu Window, where you can easily switch windows.
-

Will also add an updated version of Ken Rays Varaible Watcher.

Hint:
To build standalones for OS Classic you will need to open the old
Standalone Builder. I supplied a button to open that stack in the latest 
Standalone Builder stack.


Best

Klaus

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Re: Questons to IDE 4

2010-01-03 Thread J. Landman Gay

Klaus on-rev wrote:


OS X:
Would you like to output
a: ppc, fat AND intel apps at the same time like Rev does?
This would require to create subfolder(s) in the target directory!

b: ppc OR fat OR intel apps = only one app at a time?


I don't build standalones in MC any more, so I'm not sure my vote should 
count. But for my needs, choosing one type of standalone at a time 
(option b) would be fine. I no longer support PPC in my work, so I 
would never need to build for all. I almost always build only fat 
versions for OS X. That may change later, and I may build only for intel 
in the future.



- Added a new Menu Window, where you can easily switch windows.


Wonderful! I've missed that in MC, and have been too lazy to add it 
myself. Thanks!


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Re: Questons to IDE 4

2010-01-03 Thread Robert Brenstein

On 03.01.2010 at 16:31 Uhr +0100 Klaus on-rev apparently wrote:

Hi friends,

I am currently working on the new MC IDE 4 and while I am at this,
there are some questions concerning the output of the new standalone
building process.

OS X:
Would you like to output
a: ppc, fat AND intel apps at the same time like Rev does?
This would require to create subfolder(s) in the target directory!

b: ppc OR fat OR intel apps = only one app at a time?

Know what I mean?



I build standalones quite seldom and each time is a different 
situation. Would option c, a list of checkboxes which standalones to 
build, be possible? It would put us, the users, in control.


Robert
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