[meteorite-list] fusion crust observation
Hello listees, ...bit of an obvious observation but I noticed on my Allende individual I got today (Thanks, Christian!) that the fusion crust is peppered with tiny holes whereas my Millbillillie crust is a solid (unperforated) glassy coat. I guess I know why this is ie exgassing during atmospheric entering, butI was just curious as to what EXACTLY what gases were escaping - water vapour or whatever. And therefore the assumption that Millbillillie has far less 'free' gases in the matrix maybe drawn. Any comments? very best! -- In gentle decay, dave IMCA #0092 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for IMCA member contact) http://www.meteorites.ic24.net/index.html http://www.meteoritecollectors.org I have a proof that x^n+y^n=z^n never has integer solutions for n2. However, it won't fit into my signature file __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Ebay Auctions
Hello all My NWA 975 slices is all go sold in the last auctions. Today I have put others 3 slices with nice inclusions, and another meteorite, but later I put some others meteorites. Look here http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Regards Matteo = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fusion crust observations
Dave Harris wrote: Allende ... fusion crust is peppered with tiny holes Millbillillie crust is a solid (unperforated) glassy coat. EXACTLY what gases ... escaping Hello Dave and List, These tiny holes (M.M. Grady and M.J. Genge call them vesicles) are most abundant in the CCs but should also occur in eucrites (up to about 50 vol%). With regard to the carbonaceous chondrites, their occurrence suggests formation by evaporation and degassing of C, H, S, and H2O. Reference: GENGE M.J. et al. (1999) The fusion crusts of stony meteorites: implications for the atmospheric reprocessing of extraterrestrial materials (MAPS 34-3, 1999, 341-356). Best regards, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Newly Spotted Comet Will Soon Grace Night Skies (Comet C/2002 C1 - Ikeya-Zhang)
Hi Ron and all, Ron Baalke wrote: The 1986 appearance of Halley's comet, considered disappointing by many, also peaked at around magnitude 3.0 Although the news media hyped up Comet Halley, comparing it to its 1910 return which was favorable, to most astronomers the brightness was much better than expected even though it wasn't a favorable return that year and being farther from the Earth. So generally people were disappointed, thanks to the news media but astronomers weren't disappointed with the show overall. --AL __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rare Stony-Iron Meteorite Kept In Missouri Garage For Two Years
I wonder should it prove to be a pallasite if it is not a transported Admire, or Brenham. The Mound Culture peoples were known to have buried these in mounds scattered over the midwest. Analysis will reveal the truth of the matter. Regards, Steve Schoner. On Tue, 19 February 2002, Mark Miconi wrote Thanks for the reply everyone. Mark - Original Message - From: Allen Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Matt Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mark Miconi [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Matson, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rare Stony-Iron Meteorite Kept In Missouri Garage For Two Years I recieved a call from someone in the 660 area code of Missouri about a week ago who said they had a stony meteorite that was being classified in Albq. weighing ~5 pounds. ---Shaw. -Original Message- From: Matt Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mark Miconi [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Matson, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rare Stony-Iron Meteorite Kept In Missouri Garage For Two Years I heard 2.3 kg or so. - Original Message - From: Mark Miconi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Matson, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rare Stony-Iron Meteorite Kept In Missouri Garage For Two Years Did they mention how big it is? I did not see it in the article. Mark M - Original Message - From: Matson, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Ron Baalke' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 2:55 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Rare Stony-Iron Meteorite Kept In Missouri Garage For Two Years MARYVILLE - One of the rarest types of meteorites, which may date back 4.5 billion years, was kept in a Missouri garage for about two years before a student brought it in to a geology teacher at Northwest Missouri State. ... I said, 'Oh my gosh, a stony-iron meteorite,' Rohs said. Rohs took it to a University of Kansas professor, who confirmed her conclusions. So the question is: pallasite or mesosiderite? --Rob __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ___ Join the Space Program: Get FREE E-mail at http://www.space.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tucson 2002 Photo Site is Ready
Greetings Listees: Our photos from the Tucson 2002 show are now available on my paleontology site: http://www.paleozoic.org/home.htm There are 88 photos, all thumbnailed and arranged by category (fossils, meteorites, people, places, events) for your viewing pleasure. We have pics from the Arnold/Notkin birthday party, Michael Blood's auction, the Macovich Collection auction, and lots of interesting things and familiar people around town, and at the show. Don't miss the picture of Mike Martinez's amazing Meteorite Dealer hard hat : ) Let me know what you think. Regards, Geoff N. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] fusion crust observation
Greetings List, Dave, Gases? Could be a connection but not the reason there is a difference. The smoothness of Millibillillie is likely accounted for by its distinctly different chemistry/mineral makeup. Eucrites have a glassy fusion crust because they are more homogeneous and have already had their gases outgased in the original melt of formation ( note Ibitria ,however, as an a vesiculated exception .) Carbonaceous material such as Allende is more loosely consolidated and could be subject to plucking of small grains during transit (as well as low melting point material). The voids I see in the crust are irregular cavities so I tend to discount them as a gas pocket-not saying that they could not be from gas voids. Outgasing is a possibility if you consider that the methane in Carbs are locked in by the cold, one could theorize, and that localized heating liberated some aromatics and left voids in the crust. However, cutting should liberate existing pockets also it that were the case and I don't see those cavities within the sliced sections. These could also be a version of cooling cracks when the fused material contracts upon cooling. Looks like we need to look closer at this phenomena. So, while gas could be involved in Allende's crustal pits, it shouldn't be the reason eucrites have a smoother crust. Regards, Elton Dave Harris wrote: Hello listees, ...bit of an obvious observation but I noticed on my Allende individual I got today (Thanks, Christian!) that the fusion crust is peppered with tiny holes whereas my Millbillillie crust is a solid (unperforated) glassy coat. I guess I know why this is ie exgassing during atmospheric entering, butI was just curious as to what EXACTLY what gases were escaping - water vapour or whatever. And therefore the assumption that Millbillillie has far less 'free' gases in the matrix maybe drawn. Any comments? very best! -- In gentle decay, dave IMCA #0092 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Bright Meteor Over Ohio
http://www.dispatch.com/news-story.php?story=dispatch/weather-story.phptime=1014094800 Bright meteors like last week's are rare Dispatch.com (Ohio) February 19, 2002 I was among the lucky ones who saw the brilliant meteor streaking across the northern sky at 8:30 p.m. Wednesday. My wife and I and another couple were driving through Grandview Heights after having dinner at a Downtown restaurant. The meteor was seen by lots of people and widely reported afterward. It was the brightest meteor I've ever seen. I've seen a ton of those little slivers of light that I call falling stars or shooting stars. A few years back I was driving north on Rt. 315 when I saw a meteor blaze across the sky over the Ohio State University campus. That one looked to be the size of a fiery baseball arching across the sky. The one on Wednesday was so bright that the guy with me said it looked like a burning airplane crashing toward the horizon. Tom Burns, director of Perkins Observatory in Delaware County, said Wednesday's meteor was traveling about 100,000 mph, 40 to 50 miles above Michigan and Canada. Folks up there heard its sonic boom. Burns estimated the meteor might have been the size of a filing cabinet. It made so much light because it ionized the air around it as it sped along and burned up in the atmosphere. You're not really seeing the object, you're seeing the air around it, Burns said. That object may have been floating around in space for 5 billion years, since the beginning of the solar system, and now it is no more. I told Burns I remember every bright meteor I've ever seen. The latest fireball burned itself into my memory. I've seen maybe eight as bright as you described, Burns said. They stick in my memory the rest of my life. The first one you see, you'll never forget and the last one you see, you'll never forget. It's a lifetime experience. The reason so many people saw this meteor was because it happened on a clear night over a populated area in the early evening. Somewhere on Earth every single night of the year there is a fireball that bright, Burns said. A trillion particles enter the Earth's atmosphere every day. Most are not seen, though, because much of the planet is not occupied and clouds can screen them. The best time for a meteor to be noticed is between 7 and 9 p.m. in the winter when people are still up and around, he said. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2002 Photo Site is Ready
Geoff kindly wrote: Our photos from the Tucson 2002 show are now available on my paleontology site: http://www.paleozoic.org/home.htm Let me know what you think. Thank You, Geoff! Great Photos! Great People! Great Meteorites! Great Atmosphere! Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Misc items for sale
Hello list members, Just a note to let you know about a misc for sale page that I have on the net, http://www27.brinkster.com/meteorite1/misc/miscsale.htmlalso available from my home page www.meteorite1.net , minerals, fossil fish, petri dishes more to come. Sincerely,Jim James Hartman[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.meteorite1.net[EMAIL PROTECTED] (for IMCA member contact) Authenticity Guaranteedwww.meteoritecollectors.org
Re: [meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite????
My guess, a classic example of hemitite, var. mammary. One of the most common meteorwrongs. Usually not magnetic in the least. Next? Martin On 2/18/02 9:17 PM, Rick Nowak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This was found in Wyandot County Ohio in May of 2001 and was sent to me by a John Ward. The stone in question has NO magnet attraction. Due to it?s oriented shape color and texture of other meteorites I have seen I did not want to declare this not a meteorite when in fact it could well be. Each side of this stone is very smooth including the front that has a nipple then a ring around the base of the nipple.Their are no sharp cuts etc. The stone is no bigger than a quarter yet weighs more than it should for it?s size. He found the stone buried with ? of it?s mass in the ground and just the end sticking out. The problem is if I break this thing up I would destroy it?s unique beauty. Since their would be no metal inside a nickel test would be inclusive. If anyone has any idea what this could be or where it can be sent for testing let me know.Image avaible at http://206.25.226.2/~nickt/rmeteorpicture.htm __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Other on Eagle Butte
hello all Is arrive to me this nice email from the dealear of the famous Eagle Butte METEORITE...WOW Hey, IDIOT! Are you telling me that the University of Calgary and a university in Miami not to mention myself (having a PhD in Geology/Paleontology and a BSc with a major in Astrophysics) are liars? I know this guy very well and have seen the meteorites first hand. They are genuine! ALSO, he does not require a permit to sell them, I talked to the government of Alberta for him to obtain all the necessary documents needed to sell, THERE WERE NONE REQUIRED! If you would like to contact them yourself, go ahead. As far as I am concerned if you do not stop contacting all of his buyers I will have you suspended from eBay. I have studied the area from which these meteorites were collected, if you knew what a map looked like you would see the astrobleme for yourself (considering you know what the hell an astrobleme is). If you know how to read coordinates the site is located at Lat.49.70, Long. 110.58 on the Alberta Geological Survey's Geological map of Alberta, you can find this map on the Alberta Geological Surveys Web site, I'd send you the link but I have no patients for people who speak before they think or RESEARCH! Another note, you addressed the e-mail you sent me Dear Sir, well unless I've grown a penis in the time it's taken you to get your small minded theories on to an e-mail to irritate people you don't even know and make a complete ass out of yourself, I prefer to be called Dr. or Ma'am. You have no idea how stupid you sound. These meteorites are for real so I suggest you get a life and find another hobby, maybe something you're good at, because you obviously can't tell genuine material from the empty space in your head. One more thing, IF it were illegal to sell these items on e-Bay, e-Bay would have sent notification of such, not only this but there are numerous Professors, Geologists, Paleontologists, etc., etc. who watch e-Bay like hawks to ensure that Alberta's protected resources are not being sold illegally over the internet. A good friend and collegue of mine has contacted this seller to let him know that he was not to sell some of his other items due to protectability under the Alberta Government, for example, dinosaur bones I believe you notably criticized as being 'cattle bones' (if my recollection serves me correctly). This seller has sent me numerous copies of your rediculous e-mails, I gave him all the information he needed to deal with your sorry ass and now you're taking up my time. I write this letter not as a professional but as a friend, so please, don't go opening your big mouth to people you don't know, when you don't know what you are talking about; that is unless you enjoy making an ass out of yourself. Do not try to contact me again, I WILL have you suspended from e-Bay for harassment of buyers and obstruction of a sellers auctions. Sincerely, T.L. Schimpf, PhD. BSc. Any question? regards matteo = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Other on Eagle Butte
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Re: [meteorite-list] Other on Eagle Butte
Matteo, She's a shy girl who likes you and just doesn't know how to phrase it kn Matteo Chinellato wrote: hello all Is arrive to me this nice email from the dealear of the famous Eagle Butte METEORITE...WOW Hey, IDIOT! Are you telling me that the University of Calgary and a university in Miami not to mention myself (having a PhD in Geology/Paleontology and a BSc with a major in Astrophysics) are liars? I know this guy very well and have seen the meteorites first hand. They are genuine! ALSO, he does not require a permit to sell them, I talked to the government of Alberta for him to obtain all the necessary documents needed to sell, THERE WERE NONE REQUIRED! If you would like to contact them yourself, go ahead. As far as I am concerned if you do not stop contacting all of his buyers I will have you suspended from eBay. I have studied the area from which these meteorites were collected, if you knew what a map looked like you would see the astrobleme for yourself (considering you know what the hell an astrobleme is). If you know how to read coordinates the site is located at Lat.49.70, Long. 110.58 on the Alberta Geological Survey's Geological map of Alberta, you can find this map on the Alberta Geological Surveys Web site, I'd send you the link but I have no patients for people who speak before they think or RESEARCH! Another note, you addressed the e-mail you sent me Dear Sir, well unless I've grown a penis in the time it's taken you to get your small minded theories on to an e-mail to irritate people you don't even know and make a complete ass out of yourself, I prefer to be called Dr. or Ma'am. You have no idea how stupid you sound. These meteorites are for real so I suggest you get a life and find another hobby, maybe something you're good at, because you obviously can't tell genuine material from the empty space in your head. One more thing, IF it were illegal to sell these items on e-Bay, e-Bay would have sent notification of such, not only this but there are numerous Professors, Geologists, Paleontologists, etc., etc. who watch e-Bay like hawks to ensure that Alberta's protected resources are not being sold illegally over the internet. A good friend and collegue of mine has contacted this seller to let him know that he was not to sell some of his other items due to protectability under the Alberta Government, for example, dinosaur bones I believe you notably criticized as being 'cattle bones' (if my recollection serves me correctly). This seller has sent me numerous copies of your rediculous e-mails, I gave him all the information he needed to deal with your sorry ass and now you're taking up my time. I write this letter not as a professional but as a friend, so please, don't go opening your big mouth to people you don't know, when you don't know what you are talking about; that is unless you enjoy making an ass out of yourself. Do not try to contact me again, I WILL have you suspended from e-Bay for harassment of buyers and obstruction of a sellers auctions. Sincerely, T.L. Schimpf, PhD. BSc. Any question? regards matteo = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Misc items for sale
Hello again, WOW due to overwhealming response I went to update the page found that it had exceeded the alotted bandwidth, so I have updated the page moved it to another server. The misc stuff for sale page can now be found here http://home.talkcity.com/Route66/meteorite1/misc/miscsale.html from my website as well www.meteorite1.net Jim - Original Message - From: meteorite1.net To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 9:21 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Misc items for sale Hello list members, Just a note to let you know about a misc for sale page that I have on the net, http://www27.brinkster.com/meteorite1/misc/miscsale.htmlalso available from my home page www.meteorite1.net , minerals, fossil fish, petri dishes more to come. Sincerely,Jim James Hartman[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.meteorite1.net[EMAIL PROTECTED] (for IMCA member contact) Authenticity Guaranteedwww.meteoritecollectors.org
Re: [meteorite-list] Other on Eagle Butte
This is a just answer to the question: ok, is it a meteorite? Regards and good night - from Italy - Matteo --- Roman Jirasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Matteo You are probably correct. This guy is sick of my emails telling him that if he was selling Canadian meteorites, that he better have an export permit. In fact, he is NOT worried about a Canadian export permit because he is NOT selling any known Canadian meteorites. He has no classification done, nor is he in the process of getting one done. Buyers beware! Best regards, Roman Jirasek = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Eagle Butte
Matteo Chinellato wrote: nice email from the dealear of the famous Eagle Butte METEORITE...WOW Jamie responded: Ouch Hello Matteo, Jamie, and List, Unfortunately there is no crater information in the 5th issue of the Catalogue. Those among us who still have access to the BBB (the Big Blue Book = 4th edition of the Catalogue) know that Eagle Butte is mentioned as a doubtful feature: A disturbed area, 10 km in diameter and 30-40 million years old, may be meteoritic, P.B. Robertson and R.A.F. Grieve, Journ. Roy. Astron. Soc. Canada, 1975, vol. 69, p. 1, but compare T.B. Haites and H. van Hees, Journ. Alberta Soc. Petrol. Geologists, 1962, vol. 10, p. 511. Bore holes and electric log data for the structure, H.B. Sawatzky in, Impact and Explosion Cratering, eds. D.J. Roddy, R.O. Pepin and R.B. Merrill, Pergamon Press (New York), 1977, p. 461. ... and, to make matters worse, it is also mentioned in a list of known terrestrial impact craters in an article by the famous R.A.F. Grieve: GRIEVE R.A.F. (1991) Terrestrial Impact: The Record in the Rocks (Meteoritics 26-3, 1991, 175-194). The author does not explicitly state whether it is to be considered doubtful or not whereas the BBB entry clearly says so :-( BUT: Let's now have a look at some highlights of Mr Schimpf's tirade. A look at some key words will suffice, and, ... incidentally Mr Schimpf's family name (probably of German descent) can be translated by rant or rave - once again, nomen est omen :-) And now for the key words: IDIOT! - liars - hell - penis - ass - stupid empty space in your head - rediculous (note the spelling!) - sorry ass - big mouth - ass And now your homework, boys and girls: Would you please write a short summary about Schimpf and Schande, in English about ranting and shame :-) __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Other on Eagle Butte
Matteo, Please forward Frau Doctor's email address to me. If you feel so inclined, please forward to the list as well. As I have not seen the emails she mentions which you sent I can not comment on the harassment angle. Still, I believe she has crossed the line and has not given you the due respect you deserve. I would like to email her and ask why this meteorite has not been recognized by the Geological Survey of Canada and who at the U of Calgary will authenticate it. Best Regards, Mike Tettenborn Owen Sound, Ontario - Original Message - From: Matteo Chinellato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteoritecentral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 4:45 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Other on Eagle Butte hello all Is arrive to me this nice email from the dealear of the famous Eagle Butte METEORITE...WOW Hey, IDIOT! Are you telling me that the University of Calgary and a university in Miami not to mention myself (having a PhD in Geology/Paleontology and a BSc with a major in Astrophysics) are liars? I know this guy very well and have seen the meteorites first hand. They are genuine! ALSO, he does not require a permit to sell them, I talked to the government of Alberta for him to obtain all the necessary documents needed to sell, THERE WERE NONE REQUIRED! If you would like to contact them yourself, go ahead. As far as I am concerned if you do not stop contacting all of his buyers I will have you suspended from eBay. I have studied the area from which these meteorites were collected, if you knew what a map looked like you would see the astrobleme for yourself (considering you know what the hell an astrobleme is). If you know how to read coordinates the site is located at Lat.49.70, Long. 110.58 on the Alberta Geological Survey's Geological map of Alberta, you can find this map on the Alberta Geological Surveys Web site, I'd send you the link but I have no patients for people who speak before they think or RESEARCH! Another note, you addressed the e-mail you sent me Dear Sir, well unless I've grown a penis in the time it's taken you to get your small minded theories on to an e-mail to irritate people you don't even know and make a complete ass out of yourself, I prefer to be called Dr. or Ma'am. You have no idea how stupid you sound. These meteorites are for real so I suggest you get a life and find another hobby, maybe something you're good at, because you obviously can't tell genuine material from the empty space in your head. One more thing, IF it were illegal to sell these items on e-Bay, e-Bay would have sent notification of such, not only this but there are numerous Professors, Geologists, Paleontologists, etc., etc. who watch e-Bay like hawks to ensure that Alberta's protected resources are not being sold illegally over the internet. A good friend and collegue of mine has contacted this seller to let him know that he was not to sell some of his other items due to protectability under the Alberta Government, for example, dinosaur bones I believe you notably criticized as being 'cattle bones' (if my recollection serves me correctly). This seller has sent me numerous copies of your rediculous e-mails, I gave him all the information he needed to deal with your sorry ass and now you're taking up my time. I write this letter not as a professional but as a friend, so please, don't go opening your big mouth to people you don't know, when you don't know what you are talking about; that is unless you enjoy making an ass out of yourself. Do not try to contact me again, I WILL have you suspended from e-Bay for harassment of buyers and obstruction of a sellers auctions. Sincerely, T.L. Schimpf, PhD. BSc. Any question? regards matteo = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Other on Eagle Butte
Matteo, Wow what a loon that person is. Be careful not to get suspended from Ebay...it is not worth it. I know for a fact that a penis would not grow on that person ...It would need a host with more intelligence to survive! Mark M. - Original Message - From: Matteo Chinellato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteoritecentral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 2:45 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Other on Eagle Butte hello all Is arrive to me this nice email from the dealear of the famous Eagle Butte METEORITE...WOW Hey, IDIOT! Are you telling me that the University of Calgary and a university in Miami not to mention myself (having a PhD in Geology/Paleontology and a BSc with a major in Astrophysics) are liars? I know this guy very well and have seen the meteorites first hand. They are genuine! ALSO, he does not require a permit to sell them, I talked to the government of Alberta for him to obtain all the necessary documents needed to sell, THERE WERE NONE REQUIRED! If you would like to contact them yourself, go ahead. As far as I am concerned if you do not stop contacting all of his buyers I will have you suspended from eBay. I have studied the area from which these meteorites were collected, if you knew what a map looked like you would see the astrobleme for yourself (considering you know what the hell an astrobleme is). If you know how to read coordinates the site is located at Lat.49.70, Long. 110.58 on the Alberta Geological Survey's Geological map of Alberta, you can find this map on the Alberta Geological Surveys Web site, I'd send you the link but I have no patients for people who speak before they think or RESEARCH! Another note, you addressed the e-mail you sent me Dear Sir, well unless I've grown a penis in the time it's taken you to get your small minded theories on to an e-mail to irritate people you don't even know and make a complete ass out of yourself, I prefer to be called Dr. or Ma'am. You have no idea how stupid you sound. These meteorites are for real so I suggest you get a life and find another hobby, maybe something you're good at, because you obviously can't tell genuine material from the empty space in your head. One more thing, IF it were illegal to sell these items on e-Bay, e-Bay would have sent notification of such, not only this but there are numerous Professors, Geologists, Paleontologists, etc., etc. who watch e-Bay like hawks to ensure that Alberta's protected resources are not being sold illegally over the internet. A good friend and collegue of mine has contacted this seller to let him know that he was not to sell some of his other items due to protectability under the Alberta Government, for example, dinosaur bones I believe you notably criticized as being 'cattle bones' (if my recollection serves me correctly). This seller has sent me numerous copies of your rediculous e-mails, I gave him all the information he needed to deal with your sorry ass and now you're taking up my time. I write this letter not as a professional but as a friend, so please, don't go opening your big mouth to people you don't know, when you don't know what you are talking about; that is unless you enjoy making an ass out of yourself. Do not try to contact me again, I WILL have you suspended from e-Bay for harassment of buyers and obstruction of a sellers auctions. Sincerely, T.L. Schimpf, PhD. BSc. Any question? regards matteo = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Other on Eagle Butte
I sure am glad that she ain't mad at me...I have enough problems...I think she has some envy for what she hasn't started to grow yet and is taking it out on Matteo. DF Jamie Ekholm wrote: Ouch __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Other on Eagle Butte
She? He? Doesn't matter. The fact that these sellers are MAD at us meteorite people, proves to us, that they are worried about their own knowledge. Roman Jirasek - Original Message - From: Mark Miconi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Matteo Chinellato [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Other on Eagle Butte Matteo, Wow what a loon that person is. Be careful not to get suspended from Ebay...it is not worth it. I know for a fact that a penis would not grow on that person ...It would need a host with more intelligence to survive! Mark M. - Original Message - From: Matteo Chinellato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteoritecentral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 2:45 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Other on Eagle Butte hello all Is arrive to me this nice email from the dealear of the famous Eagle Butte METEORITE...WOW Hey, IDIOT! Are you telling me that the University of Calgary and a university in Miami not to mention myself (having a PhD in Geology/Paleontology and a BSc with a major in Astrophysics) are liars? I know this guy very well and have seen the meteorites first hand. They are genuine! ALSO, he does not require a permit to sell them, I talked to the government of Alberta for him to obtain all the necessary documents needed to sell, THERE WERE NONE REQUIRED! If you would like to contact them yourself, go ahead. As far as I am concerned if you do not stop contacting all of his buyers I will have you suspended from eBay. I have studied the area from which these meteorites were collected, if you knew what a map looked like you would see the astrobleme for yourself (considering you know what the hell an astrobleme is). If you know how to read coordinates the site is located at Lat.49.70, Long. 110.58 on the Alberta Geological Survey's Geological map of Alberta, you can find this map on the Alberta Geological Surveys Web site, I'd send you the link but I have no patients for people who speak before they think or RESEARCH! Another note, you addressed the e-mail you sent me Dear Sir, well unless I've grown a penis in the time it's taken you to get your small minded theories on to an e-mail to irritate people you don't even know and make a complete ass out of yourself, I prefer to be called Dr. or Ma'am. You have no idea how stupid you sound. These meteorites are for real so I suggest you get a life and find another hobby, maybe something you're good at, because you obviously can't tell genuine material from the empty space in your head. One more thing, IF it were illegal to sell these items on e-Bay, e-Bay would have sent notification of such, not only this but there are numerous Professors, Geologists, Paleontologists, etc., etc. who watch e-Bay like hawks to ensure that Alberta's protected resources are not being sold illegally over the internet. A good friend and collegue of mine has contacted this seller to let him know that he was not to sell some of his other items due to protectability under the Alberta Government, for example, dinosaur bones I believe you notably criticized as being 'cattle bones' (if my recollection serves me correctly). This seller has sent me numerous copies of your rediculous e-mails, I gave him all the information he needed to deal with your sorry ass and now you're taking up my time. I write this letter not as a professional but as a friend, so please, don't go opening your big mouth to people you don't know, when you don't know what you are talking about; that is unless you enjoy making an ass out of yourself. Do not try to contact me again, I WILL have you suspended from e-Bay for harassment of buyers and obstruction of a sellers auctions. Sincerely, T.L. Schimpf, PhD. BSc. Any question? regards matteo = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Science Fair Project
Dear List, My name is Alex Tettenborn and I am doing a Grade 7 science fair project on the possibility of meteorites contributing to the development of life on earth. I plan to place algae and plant seeds in water with crushed Murchison meteorite, and observe rate of growth compared to the control samples (distilled water and crushed pumice). I got this idea from the latest Meteorite magazine. I think that the Murchison meteorite will enhance the growth of both the plants and algae because many essential nutrients and organic molecules have been found in carbonaceous chondrites. I would like your opinion on my experiment and my hypothesis and any other observations on Murchison meteorites and other carbonaceous chondrites. I would also like to thank Russ from the New England Meteorological Services for the generous donation of Murchison meteorite crumbs. Alex Tettenborn __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Geologists Weary, But Elated by Chicxulub Drilling Operations
http://uanews.opi.arizona.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/UANews.woa/wa/SRStoryDetails?ArticleID=5026 GEOLOGISTS WEARY, BUT ELATED BY CHICXULUB DRILLING OPERATIONS From Lori Stiles, UA News Services, 520-621-1877 February 20, 2002 The drilling crew on the Chicxulub Scientific Drilling Project near Merida, Yucatan, Mexico, has been doing a fantastic job, last week recovering between 35 and 40 meters of exceptional core samples each day, according to a University of Arizona scientist and co-investigator on the project. The Chicxulub Scientific Drilling Project (CSDP) is an international project to core 1.8-kilometers into an immense crater created by the impact of an asteroid or comet 65 million years ago. The Cretaceous-Tertiary (K/T) impact is thought to have led to one of the greatest mass extinctions in Earth history, including dinosaur extinction. Universidad Nacional Autonoma de Mexico (UNAM) is the lead institution on the $1.5 million, approximately 2-month project. The goal is to discover what the impactor was and the details of the catastrophic impact that wiped out more than 75 percent of all plant and animal species on Earth. The crew is drilling 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, at a far faster pace that we ever thought possible, said UA planetary scientist David A. Kring. We had hoped to recover as much as 25 meters of core samples each day, but at the rate they are drilling, we will probably reach depths of 1.5 kilometers by the end of the project, despite the loss of a diamond drill head earlier in this effort. The CSDP drilling team members are from DOSECC (Drilling, Observation, and Sampling of the Earth's Continental Crust, Inc.), and Pitsa, a drilling contractor in Mexico. We are getting a 100 percent core-recovery rate, Kring added. Scientists by such drilling operations often recover only between 50 percent or 60 percent, and sometimes as little as 20 percent, of intact core samples, he said. The drilling crew hands each core barrel pulled from the crater to onsite geologists who then remove and process the core samples. Kring and UA undergraduate student Jake Bailey last week helped relieve their tired Mexican colleagues in onsite geology duties, working 12-hour shifts. Kring worked a 28-hour stretch as well. When Kring left Chicxulub last Saturday night, the team had drilled to more than 1.2 kilometers (4,200 feet). Kring, director of the NASA/UA Space Imagery Center, has posted photographs and more details on recent operations on the Space Imagery Center website at http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/SIC/news/chicxulubl.html For more about the Chicxulub Scientific Drilling Project, point your web browser to: http://uanews.opi.arizona.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/UANews.woa/wa/MainStoryDetails?ArticleID=4715 Contact Information David A. Kring 520-621-2024 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Other on Eagle Butte
Well, is it a meteorite ? Steve Schoner On Wed, 20 February 2002, Matteo Chinellato wrote hello all Is arrive to me this nice email from the dealear of the famous Eagle Butte METEORITE...WOW Hey, IDIOT! Are you telling me that the University of Calgary and a university in Miami not to mention myself (having a PhD in Geology/Paleontology and a BSc with a major in Astrophysics) are liars? I know this guy very well and have seen the meteorites first hand. They are genuine! ALSO, he does not require a permit to sell them, I talked to the government of Alberta for him to obtain all the necessary documents needed to sell, THERE WERE NONE REQUIRED! If you would like to contact them yourself, go ahead. As far as I am concerned if you do not stop contacting all of his buyers I will have you suspended from eBay. I have studied the area from which these meteorites were collected, if you knew what a map looked like you would see the astrobleme for yourself (considering you know what the hell an astrobleme is). If you know how to read coordinates the site is located at Lat.49.70, Long. 110.58 on the Alberta Geological Survey's Geological map of Alberta, you can find this map on the Alberta Geological Surveys Web site, I'd send you the link but I have no patients for people who speak before they think or RESEARCH! Another note, you addressed the e-mail you sent me Dear Sir, well unless I've grown a penis in the time it's taken you to get your small minded theories on to an e-mail to irritate people you don't even know and make a complete ass out of yourself, I prefer to be called Dr. or Ma'am. You have no idea how stupid you sound. These meteorites are for real so I suggest you get a life and find another hobby, maybe something you're good at, because you obviously can't tell genuine material from the empty space in your head. One more thing, IF it were illegal to sell these items on e-Bay, e-Bay would have sent notification of such, not only this but there are numerous Professors, Geologists, Paleontologists, etc., etc. who watch e-Bay like hawks to ensure that Alberta's protected resources are not being sold illegally over the internet. A good friend and collegue of mine has contacted this seller to let him know that he was not to sell some of his other items due to protectability under the Alberta Government, for example, dinosaur bones I believe you notably criticized as being 'cattle bones' (if my recollection serves me correctly). This seller has sent me numerous copies of your rediculous e-mails, I gave him all the information he needed to deal with your sorry ass and now you're taking up my time. I write this letter not as a professional but as a friend, so please, don't go opening your big mouth to people you don't know, when you don't know what you are talking about; that is unless you enjoy making an ass out of yourself. Do not try to contact me again, I WILL have you suspended from e-Bay for harassment of buyers and obstruction of a sellers auctions. Sincerely, T.L. Schimpf, PhD. BSc. Any question? regards matteo = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ___ Join the Space Program: Get FREE E-mail at http://www.space.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ebay MeteorWrong
WoW! GROUP OF 3 PCS. METEORITES Best, kn
[meteorite-list] Space Adventures Team Discovers Over 30 Meteorites In Antarctica
http://www.spaceadventures.com/press/012902.html Space Adventures Team Discovers Over 30 Meteorites In Antarctica Space Adventures Press Release January 29, 2002 Arlington, Va. -- The Space Adventures team of private explorers discovered 33 meteorites during a meteorite recovery expedition in the Thiel Mountains of Antarctica. The recovered meteorites, which vary in size and shape, could possibly contain evidence of extraterrestrial life, and will be made available through the Planetary Studies Foundation (PSF) for study by NASA scientists. The meteorite recovery expedition was led by Professor Paul Sipiera, a planetary geologist and meteorite expert from Harper College in Illinois. The explorers, who have spent eight days hiking and camping in harsh Antarctic conditions in search for meteorites, have returned home. A daily record of the expedition can be accessed online at http://www.spaceadventures.com/terrestrial/antarctica. During the first day in the Thiel Mountains, the team found their first meteorite within hours, a 20-gram chondrite fragment with a fusion crust over half of it. Each search was successful in recovering additional meteorites of various sizes and textures. Some of the meteorites found are completely covered by a fusion crust and appear to be rare. The expedition's objectives were threefold. In addition to meteorite recovery, ice samples have been collected as part of a microbiology study for the University of Innsbruck (Austria), NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center and the University of Alabama. The third project was an educational outreach effort that connected students from Chicago-area elementary schools and Harper College with team members via satellite and online forums. I am proud to say that the expedition team has achieved all three missions with a high degree of success, stated Professor Paul Sipiera, the expedition leader. The expedition was offered in partnership with PSF and Adventure Network International (ANI), the only organization in the world providing private-sector services to the Antarctic interior since 1985. For interviews with team members please contact Tereza Predescu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Expedition images and video footage will be made available upon request. Space Adventures Expedition Team Members Paul Sipiera - Expedition Leader (Chicago) Paul is a Professor of Geology and Astronomy at William Rainey Harper College in Palatine, Illinois and the President of the Planetary Studies Foundation. Previously he was a member of the U.S. Antarctic Research Program as a field scientist for the Antarctic Search for Meteorites Project. Dave Butts (Algonquin) Dave is currently a business partner in Redblock Knowledge Systems Corporation, a software technology company that specializes in developing high performance data systems for Internet based applications. Dave is also the Vice-President and Director of the Planetary Studies Foundation. Elvira Butz (Winnetka) Elvira is a member of the Explorers Club, and has traveled to many of the world's most remote locales, from exploring the Amazonian Basin to diving to the hydrothermal Vents near the Azores. Her primary interests are anthropology and ethnobotany. Charles Duffy (New York) Charles Duffy, former photographer, is now a venture capitalist based in Buffalo, New York. Richard Garriott (Texas) Richard co-founded Origin Systems, producer of the Ultima line of computer games. An avid adventure traveler, he aspires to become the first second generation astronaut - his father Owen Garriott having flown on both Apollo Skylab and the Space Shuttle. Kelly Miller (Texas) Kelly has been on expeditions to Africa, has flown to 85,000 feet in a MiG-25, and is the deepest diving female on record at a depth of 4,810 meters while on the Atlantic Sands Expedition. Art Mortvedt (Alaska) Art is a bush pilot and registered guide operating the Peace of Selby Wilderness lodge north of the Arctic Circle and a member of the Explorers Club and Fellow of the Royal Geographical Society. This will be his 14th polar expedition. James N. Pritzker (Chicago) COL (IL) James N. Pritzker, ARNG (retired) is President and Chief Executive Officer of Tawani Enterprises, President and Chairman of the Board of Tawani Charitable Foundation, Inc., and serves on the Board of the Planetary Studies Foundation. This will be his second expedition to Antarctica and this time he hopes to find his own meteorite. Birgit Sattler (Austria) Birgit is a research assistant at the University of Innsbruck, Austria, where she is leading the Microbiology in Ice and Snow working group. During the expedition, Birgit will be taking ice and snow samples to further her project and will participate in the meteorite recovery. Birgit has dreamt of visiting the Antarctic continent since she was a child. Eric Tilenius (California) Eric is an avid traveler and a high tech guru. He has held management positions with Oracle Corporation and Intuit Inc., and has served
[meteorite-list] A Rock in a Hard Place (Willamette Meteorite)
BACK IN 1998, the American Museum of Natural History hacked a 25-pound chunk and a smaller nub off its famed Willamette Meteorite and traded it for a mere 20-ounce piece of Mars. That's it. No draft picks. No cash. No meteorite to be named later. Just the 20-ounce Martian pebble. Think about it: Twenty ounces of Mars (Mars! It's so close that it's practically the Hamptons!) for more than 25 pounds of a rock that may date back to the beginnings of time? That's the meteorological equivalent of Nolan Ryan for Jim Fregosi. Obviously Mr. Kuntzman doesn't get it. If he had done his research, he'd have found that other than its size and Native American controversy, the Willamette iron is hardly unique. Willamette is barely an also-ran when compared to irons like Hoba and Cape York. And what the hell does he mean by a rock that may date back to the beginnings of time??? What a crock. Most meteorites are as old if not considerably older than Willamette. Over a pound of Mars for 25 pounds of iron? AMNH got a screaming deal IMHO... --R __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay MeteorWrong
The saddest part of this auction besides the fact that the seller has not got a clue is that the current high bidder has purchased 2 real meteorites from Ivan recently. I wonder if I could get in trouble with Ebay if I wrote the bidder and suggested that he subscribe to this list and see what the experts are saying about this auction? He did pay $265.00 for an 1800+ gram Sikhote so maybe he is wealthy Mark M. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 6:06 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Ebay MeteorWrong WoW! GROUP OF 3 PCS. METEORITES Best, kn
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite and Planetary Encyclopedia
Hi Rob, Wow, great site! Thanks for that! I've sure bookmarked it. Best wishes, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Other on Eagle Butte
Awfully touchy, aren't they? Wonder just how many enquiries they've gotten from collectors wanting more information on their mystery rock. If you're selling diamonds and someone wants a GIA appraisal to make sure they aren't buying glass, that's not unreasonable. Ranting about it just makes you more suspect IMHO. Tracy Latimer --oh, well, it's got to be a NICE meteorwrong :-( -- __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rép : [meteorite-list] fusion crust observation
Hello list, I created a Yahoo photo album (Meteorites), link : http://photos.yahoo.com/stellardustfr to illustrate the discussion about fusion crust. I added three photos (magnification x30) : Millbillillie and two new eucrites Boudnib2 (AEUC-M, S3W0) Boudnib3 (AEUC-M, S4W0) (temporary names) found in Sahara desert (2001). Regards, Philippe Thomas Emails [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Member of Meteoritical Society Member of International Meteorite Collectors Association #3859 http://www.meteoritecollectors.org Ebay http://members.ebay.fr/aboutme/stellardust/
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite and Planetary Encyclopedia
Awesome! - Original Message - From: Matson, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 6:25 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite and Planetary Encyclopedia Hi All, I'm sure someone posted a link to this once-upon-a-time, but it didn't turn up in a quick scan of the recent archives, so I'll risk the repetition. Has anyone run across the following site? http://homepages.msn.com/LibraryLawn/shaqued/indexwww.html I didn't have it bookmarked, so it was clearly new to me. Very nice compilation of entries near and dear to our hearts, with lots of wonderful images. Is the creator here among us? Nice job! --Rob __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rép : [meteorite-list] fusion crust observation
Hello list, I created a Yahoo photo album (Meteorites), link : http://photos.yahoo.com/stellardustfr to illustrate the discussion about fusion crust. I added three photos (magnification x30) : Millbillillie and two new eucrites Boudnib2 (AEUC-M, S3W0) Boudnib3 (AEUC-M, S4W0) (temporary names) found in Sahara desert (2001). Regards, Philippe Thomas Emails [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Member of Meteoritical Society Member of International Meteorite Collectors Association #3859 http://www.meteoritecollectors.org Ebay http://members.ebay.fr/aboutme/stellardust/
[meteorite-list] Norton's Book over 20,000+ copies sold
To: Rick Nowak Regarding your inquiry of sales numbers for Rocks From Space by O. Richard Norton: together the 1st and 2nd editions have sold over 20,000 copies. Ingrid Estell, Marketing Sales Mountain Press Publishing PO Box 2399 Missoula, MT 59806 460-728-1900, ext 131 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Fw: [meteorite-list] Meteorite and Planetary Encyclopedia
- Original Message - From: Steven Drummond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wrecks463 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite and Planetary Encyclopedia Thanks for the site information list , very nice !! Steven Drummond - Original Message - From: wrecks463 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Matson, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite and Planetary Encyclopedia Awesome! - Original Message - From: Matson, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 6:25 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite and Planetary Encyclopedia Hi All, I'm sure someone posted a link to this once-upon-a-time, but it didn't turn up in a quick scan of the recent archives, so I'll risk the repetition. Has anyone run across the following site? http://homepages.msn.com/LibraryLawn/shaqued/indexwww.html I didn't have it bookmarked, so it was clearly new to me. Very nice compilation of entries near and dear to our hearts, with lots of wonderful images. Is the creator here among us? Nice job! --Rob __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A Rock in a Hard Place (Willamette Meteorite)
Robert and List, I agree. And what's more, Gersh Kuntzman in his article writes: Two years ago, in a move that sent shockwaves through virtually no one except the small community of meteorite collectors... My...my... how that seems to make us out as a bit petty and clannish. Kuntzman also should realize that if it wasn't for this small community many smaller museums would go begging for specimens. Some museum meteorite collections do come from private collectors that have passed on, or at the very least, have been made available to museums. But public interests seem lie in dinosaurs, fossils, anything one can put a face on, or reduce to a simplistic Saturday morning cartoon. The article also comes across as a bit glib and cheeky to suit my tastes. My two cents. Steven L. Sachs __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fw: Ebay... AWESOME Stuff!!!!
- Original Message - From: Michael Cottingham To: Michael Cottingham Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 8:33 PM Subject: Ebay... AWESOME Stuff Hello Everyone, This week on ebay...I have reduced many, removed reserves, and listed lots of cool itemsand I am NOT DONE YET Please check back over the next few days.many items will fly fast Go to: http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Thanks Best Wishes Michael Cottingham
RE: [meteorite-list] Other on Eagle Butte
Hey, not trying to put ourselves up to the same level as the GIA but people like this are the reason that Ron, Jim, Anne, Steve, Anne, and I created the IMCA. So far, quite a few of the larger dealers have joined as well as many people who just collect and sell extra pieces from their private collcetion when they upgrade. Its also pretty safe to say that most of you have also probally seen one of the logos that Jim made on eBay and/or different people's websites. What's so great about all of this is that if you see someone using our logo then you know that they're constantly being watched by all the other 90 or so members to know that they're being honest and that this person would not be allowed to stay a member unless they can have their rocks classified by a respected lab. If you've not seen our website feel free to check it out at www.meteoritecollectors.org and if you want to join just make sure you're an honest enough person and email me privately. Best wishes, Rhett Bourland www.asteroidmodels.com www.asteroidmodels.com/personal www.meteoritecollectors.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tracy Latimer Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 8:18 PM To: Matteo Chinellato Cc: Meteoritecentral Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Other on Eagle Butte Awfully touchy, aren't they? Wonder just how many enquiries they've gotten from collectors wanting more information on their mystery rock. If you're selling diamonds and someone wants a GIA appraisal to make sure they aren't buying glass, that's not unreasonable. Ranting about it just makes you more suspect IMHO. Tracy Latimer --oh, well, it's got to be a NICE meteorwrong :-( -- __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Ad New Carion Book
Hi All I had a great time in Tucson and was quite happy to see the new and updated second edition of Alain Carion's book "Meteorites". Fortunately for us "one language only" people it has been translated into English by our very own Anne Black. The book is a softcover and contains only 36 pages. It does include several black and white photos of some rarely seen meteorites. I will sell them for $9.00 plus shipping. I was also able to score several unread copies of the sold out first edition. Not even Alain has any of these. If any one is interested I'll sell these for $9.00 plus shipping as well. If you are truly a hard-core book collector I'll sell both editions for $16.50 plus shipping. Remember you will probably never see this 1st edition in this condition for sale again. Let me know as soon as possibly if you want the older edition by itself or in combination with the new one as I have a limited number available. It is quite an exciting time for meteorite books as there are several other new books coming out in the next few months. We will be selling these books and will offer great savings as well as additional incentives. So if you are interested in books please join our Yahoo groups to have the most up to date info on these new books at Yahoo! Groups : Jensen-Meteorites Mike Mike Jensen Bill Jensen Jensen Meteorites 16730 E Ada PL Aurora, CO 80017-3137 303-337-4361 Web Site: www.jensenmeteorites.com Jensen Meteorites
[Fwd: [meteorite-list] A Rock in a Hard Place (Willamette Meteorite)]
DEAR GERSH, I'm forwarding the following message to you in the spirit that you might learn a thing or two. Your piece was light, flippant, and generally well written. But, you are such a flaming smartass- How do I know? I have a 24 year son just like you. Yes indeed, I do know!- REGARDS, GRANT ELLIOTT ---BeginMessage--- BACK IN 1998, the American Museum of Natural History hacked a 25-pound chunk and a smaller nub off its famed Willamette Meteorite and traded it for a mere 20-ounce piece of Mars. That's it. No draft picks. No cash. No meteorite to be named later. Just the 20-ounce Martian pebble. Think about it: Twenty ounces of Mars (Mars! It's so close that it's practically the Hamptons!) for more than 25 pounds of a rock that may date back to the beginnings of time? That's the meteorological equivalent of Nolan Ryan for Jim Fregosi. Obviously Mr. Kuntzman doesn't get it. If he had done his research, he'd have found that other than its size and Native American controversy, the Willamette iron is hardly unique. Willamette is barely an also-ran when compared to irons like Hoba and Cape York. And what the hell does he mean by a rock that may date back to the beginnings of time??? What a crock. Most meteorites are as old if not considerably older than Willamette. Over a pound of Mars for 25 pounds of iron? AMNH got a screaming deal IMHO... --R __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ---End Message---
[meteorite-list] Garland meteorite
I'm new to the list, and would like to communicate with anyone that has information on the Garland Meteorite that fell in Garland Utah during the summer of 1950. I'm looking for images, diagnostics, and locality data. George Winters Web Site Design and Administration River Heights, Utah 435-757-6017 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Garland meteorite
Diogenite, fell in the summer of 1950 around 11 a.m. and has a total known weight of 102 grams. I'm sure others may have more information on this but this is all that I have. Hope this helps, Rhett Bourland www.asteroidmodels.com www.asteroidmodels.com/personal www.meteoritecollectors.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of George Winters Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 11:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Garland meteorite I'm new to the list, and would like to communicate with anyone that has information on the Garland Meteorite that fell in Garland Utah during the summer of 1950. I'm looking for images, diagnostics, and locality data. George Winters Web Site Design and Administration River Heights, Utah 435-757-6017 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2002 Photo Site is Ready
Thank you for sharing a great bunch of photos Geoff. Excellent stuff and nicely organized. And to all the others who've gone to the effort to bring put their photos up for viewing, Thanks! Bob Greetings Listees: Our photos from the Tucson 2002 show are now available on my paleontology site: http://www.paleozoic.org/home.htm There are 88 photos, all thumbnailed and arranged by category (fossils, meteorites, people, places, events) for your viewing pleasure. We have pics from the Arnold/Notkin birthday party, Michael Blood's auction, the Macovich Collection auction, and lots of interesting things and familiar people around town, and at the show. Don't miss the picture of Mike Martinez's amazing Meteorite Dealer hard hat : ) Let me know what you think. Regards, Geoff N. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Other on Eagle Butte 2
Goodmorning from Italy Wow...another nice email from the gentleman/lady: EAT A DICK BUDDY!!! AND LEARN HOW TO SPEAK ENGLISH PROPERLY!!! OF COURSE EAGLE 'BUTTON' ISN'T A METEORITE, IT'S EAGLE BUTTE SHIT FOR BRAINS. STOP HARASSING ME YOU SICK-O. I will now be contacting e-Bay about you and you WILL be suspended. Are you hearing impaired or what because you sound worse than a two year old. Also, the Eagle BUTTE (not Button) Astrobleme is not a meteorite, it is the impact site of the meteorite. I really want to know what makes you so sure that this rock that my friend excavated is not a meteorite when he went through testing proceedures for over a year to make absolutely sure that's what it was. Not only that, but to sit on your pompas ass and call me a liar. I am part of a highly elite team of experts that explores and excavates such rare finds. I sit on the board of trustee's at the Royal Tyrell Museum in Drumheller, AB. But you who thinks he is all enlightened are trying to tell me that I'm wrong when clearly my four year son has obviously obtained a higher IQ than you. You should really read your e-mails before you send them, you sound like you have down syndrome. tlc_asap PhD., BSc. Council to all to write to Ebay in order to eliminate this personage, inasmuch as not ago other that to ruin our efforts in order to eliminate the meteorwrongs from Ebay. Regards Matteo = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Science Fair Project
Hi Alex: What a wonderful demonstration of the advancement of science! Compare your Murchinson meteorite fragments as the source of organic molecules to the source used in my classroom plant growth rate experiment more than a few years ago - the manure pile behind the local stable. In the interest of enhancing the validity of your plant growth rate factor experiment, I suggest that you consider adding a third subject - one utilizing fragments of another meteorite - a common chondrite not known to be bearing essential nutrients and organic molecules such as found in Murchinson. I hope that one of the scientists on the Meteorite List will explain to you, in artful language, exactly what (I intuitively feel) will be the benefit of such an addition. In any event, please report your findings to the List. Good luck, Joel Goleman...P.S. I hope that your organic molecules work half as well as mine did! __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Other on Eagle Butte 2
In a message dated 2/20/2002 11:17:17 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Goodmorning from Italy Wow...another nice email from the gentleman/lady: She is NO lady! Anne Black IMCA #2356 www.IMPACTIKA.com e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[meteorite-list] schimpf rave
Hiya Anyone who writes a tirade like that ain't no professional... I also noticed the misspelling of the word patience too. I'd call her bluff! With a rant like that I think she'd better have some REAL evidence - surely someone with such proported qualifications would have answered in a more constructive style ie listing some analyses or data. There are some real bulltishers out there! -- In gentle decay, dave IMCA #0092 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for IMCA member contact) http://www.meteorites.ic24.net/index.html http://www.meteoritecollectors.org I have a proof that x^n+y^n=z^n never has integer solutions for n2. However, it won't fit into my signature file __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
