Re: [meteorite-list] Odessa Crater
Hi, There is a 800 number listed herehttp://www.meteorcrater.com/meteorcraterhome2.htm Max --- Teresa Moss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have a contact at the Odessa Meteor Crater Visitor Center. I have made multiple attempts to contact the visitors center, but have had no luck whatsoever. This telephone number is the only contact information I have: 432-381-0946. I would appreciate any help you can offer. Teresa Moss Oscar E. Monnig Meteorite Gallery -- Teresa Moss Director, Monnig Meteorite Gallery Texas Christian University Box 298830 Fort Worth, Texas 76129 Phone: 817-257-MARS (6277) FAX: 817-257-7789 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] A box to put my meteorites in...Part one
Boxes, boxes and drawers and random shelves. Unseen, loved but distant to the eye of their beholder. This has been the fate of my collection for the last five years. It grew slow, the collection, and in the early days it occupied a shelf in the living room. About 15 pieces at the time, it was Christmas, time to decorate and my wife needed the shelf space for Christmas knick-knacks. Too much effort to ask me to relocate them or put them in a box for safekeeping, I came home one day after work to find a celestial pile of rubble on the corner of the shelf. The whole lot heaved into a mound and camouflaged with that fake snow crap. I knew then that meteorites weren't my wife's cup of tea and they need to be moved somewhere safe as the value of the collection was increasing and they deserved respect regardless of value So boxes, boxes and drawers and random shelves in my office. Unseen, waiting for a home. The last two years have been defining what that home would be, what it would need to do for me...and for the meteorites. The office was granted to me upon the birth of my son Logan, now two, as natural history, optics, computers, and chemicals don't mix well with toddlers. It is my sanctuary, my fortress of solitude, an homage to all things me and I must thank my wife for such a concession. What would it take? Form and function. Space was a major concern and in shopping various furniture stores I ran into various nice display cases but none suited for meteorites. They all stood on the floor, what good is a meteorite on the floor? I needed a wall mount. All wall mounted display units lacked doors. I hit eBay. Baseball cases, golf ball, pez...all had the right dimension, minimal depth, but they all lacked any aesthetic. Only one answer, custom built. The next two years were spent conceiving the case of my dreams and proposing it to cabinet makers. Plans on paper, CAD, napkins. As important as form was function, protection. Years were spent researching lighting and other electronics. Most cabinet makers sent me away, too complex. The best bid for my design was $1600 without glass and electronics. I was discouraged to say the least. Still I pressed on, bought the electronics I needed, searched for more options on eBay. In the end, after watching one too many episodes of Trading Spaces, I made the decisionI would build it myself damnit. Continued -- Rob Wesel -- We are the music makers...and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] A box to put my meteorites in...Part two
Rob, That's a great story, and it looks superb! I went through a similar experience a few months ago, I had simply out grown my old cabinet, after 'extensive negotiation' with the boss, I got clearance for a new one. I went into every furniture shop, in the area, nothing! Either too big too small to wide. Anyway to cut a long story short... I eventually decided that since I live in a very old house something antique looking would be the way to go, so I eventually found an Edwardian (1900's) solid mahogany cabinet that someone had bizarrely painted grey (!), I stripped it down, removed the shelves and had glass ones cut I lined it with pale yellow silk (yellow is definitely the best colour to show up detail), I fitted miniature Halogen lamps into the top, sanded it and gave it a good coat of quality varnish. It now looks like an antique again but also is very functional as well, being well lit and the glass shelves allow maximum light to penetrate. There is certainly something about mahogany and meteorites, it just has that feel of 'old museums'. My advice to anyone who needs a new cabinet, get the saw and sander out and be prepared to modify a case, because that's the best way to get what you Want!! Cheers all, Mark Ford __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 158 kg:s Muonionalusta was found in Sweden...
...in village Kitkiojarvi, Pajala. Meteorite was found by 2 privat persons and has been transported to the NHM of Sweden in Stockholm. http://www.kuriren.nu/default.asp?TargetForm=/utmatningssidan.aspArticleID=354789CategoryID=2764ArticleStateID=2ClientID=0 pekka s. -- Pekka Savolainen Jokiharjuntie 4 FIN-71330 Rasala FINLAND + 358 400 818 912 Group Home Page: http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/eurocoin Group Email Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] off topic: Isabel
Hi Geoff and List, Thanks for your concern. Everything is fine here. I live at the southern point of the Outer Banks in NC on Bogue Banks, a 21 mile barrier island. We were evacuated on Wednesday Sept. 17th. Dianne and I stayed a few miles inland. The storm made landfall about 70-80 miles north of us on Thursday. Since we were on the southernmost point of impact, damage was minimal. As a precaution, I took all the electronics and inventory from my office as it is just a block off the Atlantic. It's taken a few days to get back up and running. We are very fortunate and thankful. Best to all, John www.meteoriteUSA.com www.meteorites.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ebay auctions
Good morning list.I put up 10 auctions on ebay today.All ending OCTOBER 1st.Acouple of rare items,and some mostly common stuff.Most I started at a dollar.Acouple of buy it nows.Good luck to all.A couple do not have pics. steve arnold, chicago, usa = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A box to put my meteorites in...Part two
Good job Rob. that is a beautiful display. What are the large iron slices I see:) Share more with us! Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Rob Wesel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 1:55 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] A box to put my meteorites in...Part two Build it myself. I needed tools, I did own a few wrenches, however. Table saw, a must. Also a miter saw, sander, air compressor and finish nailer. Wood, screws, glue, nails, wires, glass, paint and Band-Aids. After assembling all the tools and reading how to use them, I made the first cut, a 7 foot by 4 foot piece of MDF that would serve as the back. More cuts came and things assembled rather smoothly. An eight inch off here, a sixteenth there, not much to worry about over the span of 7 feet. 7 feet is a very long span to install shelves so I divided the case into 4 compartments, each roughly 20 inches with adjustable shelving. Soon the skeleton was constructed, ready to paint. Exterior was not an issue, black was decided long ago. The interior was a different story. I finally decided on a shade of yellow to add contrast for both light and dark colored meteorites. I have an eye for detail and the paint was the second worst part of the whole project. In the end, the exterior is exactly 10 coats deep and the interior 5, taking into account texturing the whole thing. Let me take a minute to praise the virtues of texture paint. This was my best friend, a simple spray-paint application that hides every surface flaw! Not to mention that when painted satin black it exactly matches the texture of a standard riker mount box. I played with color, texture and finish a lot, hence 15 coats of paint in all. Next stop was the doors. I spent hours looking for the straightest wood to build door frames, took the best of the lot. Sadly, there was still too much bowing to the wood to make a frame that satisfied my eye for detail. I was this far in and was disappointed but ultimately decided to have them professionally done. The frames needed to be thin, maximum glass, and no cabinet builder could make them less than 2 inches thick all the way around. I decided on a frame shop. Paint was the second worst part of the project, frames were the worst. Four frames were made, three were crooked, seems they had the same issues. A poster frame chinches up and straightened out when you clamp in the backing, no backing on mine, only glass and that would not be enough. The guy at the frame shop was excellent to work with, he sent the three back and made a special note emphasizing straight wood. They came back straight. I was ready to go. Time to get a visual of the case with what would be the doors after a trip to the glass shop. Oops, they took my measurements as interior, not exterior, so now my 37 inch doors had a 37 inch opening and a 39 inch overall which would be fine but remember that eight inch off here, a sixteenth there, not much to worry about over the span of 7 feet, well worry about it now. I needed a little buffer to hide the off square and off angle areas. I went back to frame shop, again they order four new doors, and all four were crooked. A month had gone by in the process. They guy refunded my money and politely bailed, suggesting a competitor that had their wood in stock so errors could be quickly resolved and the wood could be hand selected. I went to this place and 24 hours later they had perfectly straight, correctly sized frames. He did work hard on it and I gave him a nice size Canyon Diablo for excellent customer service. The glass and door installation went well. Form had been achieved, now function. The case has a false top. Within the false top, only 4 inches deep I installed an intake fan in one end compartment and output in the other end. The real top has holes to allow the air to move through. All the compartments have air vents running through them so the air gets completely circulated. I sided with aesthetic on the vents so the airstream is linear versus a S-curve which would be more conducive to airflow dynamics. As the air passes through the top it goes through an electronic heater and dehumidifier. Four halogen lights were wired in on a remote control. The airflow and dehumidification are always on but the lights are at my command. Taking no risks, each compartment has its own VCI emitter as well. The case was built airtight, everywhere wood touches wood, it has been glued, then nailed, then caulked. So there you have it. Airtight, dehumidified, heated, corrosion inhibited, air circulated, halogen lit, remote controlled, UV protected, wall mounted, thin and big. A HEPA filter was installed for style points and later removed as it cut airflow too much. A RH of 31% is maintained. Time spent, 2 months 1 week. Time planned, 2 years. Time wanted on frames, 1 month. Total cost $959.46 and I keep the tools.
Re: [meteorite-list] A box to put my meteorites in...Part two
Hello Rob and list. Rob, you now have the tools and know-how, you should make meteorite cases to sale! : ) One thing I wonder about; of what importance does the air flow have for meteorites? Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 - Original Message - From: Rob Wesel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 1:55 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] A box to put my meteorites in...Part two Build it myself. I needed tools, I did own a few wrenches, however. Table saw, a must. Also a miter saw, sander, air compressor and finish nailer. Wood, screws, glue, nails, wires, glass, paint and Band-Aids. After assembling all the tools and reading how to use them, I made the first cut, a 7 foot by 4 foot piece of MDF that would serve as the back. More cuts came and things assembled rather smoothly. An eight inch off here, a sixteenth there, not much to worry about over the span of 7 feet. 7 feet is a very long span to install shelves so I divided the case into 4 compartments, each roughly 20 inches with adjustable shelving. Soon the skeleton was constructed, ready to paint. Exterior was not an issue, black was decided long ago. The interior was a different story. I finally decided on a shade of yellow to add contrast for both light and dark colored meteorites. I have an eye for detail and the paint was the second worst part of the whole project. In the end, the exterior is exactly 10 coats deep and the interior 5, taking into account texturing the whole thing. Let me take a minute to praise the virtues of texture paint. This was my best friend, a simple spray-paint application that hides every surface flaw! Not to mention that when painted satin black it exactly matches the texture of a standard riker mount box. I played with color, texture and finish a lot, hence 15 coats of paint in all. Next stop was the doors. I spent hours looking for the straightest wood to build door frames, took the best of the lot. Sadly, there was still too much bowing to the wood to make a frame that satisfied my eye for detail. I was this far in and was disappointed but ultimately decided to have them professionally done. The frames needed to be thin, maximum glass, and no cabinet builder could make them less than 2 inches thick all the way around. I decided on a frame shop. Paint was the second worst part of the project, frames were the worst. Four frames were made, three were crooked, seems they had the same issues. A poster frame chinches up and straightened out when you clamp in the backing, no backing on mine, only glass and that would not be enough. The guy at the frame shop was excellent to work with, he sent the three back and made a special note emphasizing straight wood. They came back straight. I was ready to go. Time to get a visual of the case with what would be the doors after a trip to the glass shop. Oops, they took my measurements as interior, not exterior, so now my 37 inch doors had a 37 inch opening and a 39 inch overall which would be fine but remember that eight inch off here, a sixteenth there, not much to worry about over the span of 7 feet, well worry about it now. I needed a little buffer to hide the off square and off angle areas. I went back to frame shop, again they order four new doors, and all four were crooked. A month had gone by in the process. They guy refunded my money and politely bailed, suggesting a competitor that had their wood in stock so errors could be quickly resolved and the wood could be hand selected. I went to this place and 24 hours later they had perfectly straight, correctly sized frames. He did work hard on it and I gave him a nice size Canyon Diablo for excellent customer service. The glass and door installation went well. Form had been achieved, now function. The case has a false top. Within the false top, only 4 inches deep I installed an intake fan in one end compartment and output in the other end. The real top has holes to allow the air to move through. All the compartments have air vents running through them so the air gets completely circulated. I sided with aesthetic on the vents so the airstream is linear versus a S-curve which would be more conducive to airflow dynamics. As the air passes through the top it goes through an electronic heater and dehumidifier. Four halogen lights were wired in on a remote control. The airflow and dehumidification are always on but the lights are at my command. Taking no risks, each compartment has its own VCI emitter as well. The case was built airtight, everywhere wood touches wood, it has been glued, then nailed, then caulked. So there you have it. Airtight, dehumidified, heated, corrosion inhibited, air circulated, halogen lit, remote controlled, UV protected, wall mounted, thin and big. A HEPA filter was installed for style points and later removed as it cut airflow too much. A RH of 31% is
[meteorite-list] Ebay ad - please delete if necessary
Hi, Just to say that I am offering more Orgueil on eBay - a couple of nice chunky chunks, not dust http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2193832516 thanks for your indulgence dave IMCA #0092 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Princeton Paleontologist Produces Evidence For New Theory On Dinosaur Extinction
http://www.princeton.edu/pr/news/03/q3/0925-keller.htm Princeton University Office of Communications 22 Chambers St. Princeton, New Jersey 08542 Telephone 609-258-3601; Fax 609-258-1301 For immediate release: September 25, 2003 Contact: Steven Schultz, (609) 258-5729, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Princeton paleontologist produces evidence for new theory on dinosaur extinction PRINCETON, N.J. -- As a paleontologist, Gerta Keller has studied many aspects of the history of life on Earth. But the question capturing her attention lately is one so basic it has passed the lips of generations of 6-year-olds: What killed the dinosaurs? The answers she has been uncovering for the last decade have stirred an adult-sized debate that puts Keller at odds with many scientists who study the question. Keller, a professor in Princeton's Department of Geosciences, is among a minority of scientists who believe that the story of the dinosaurs' demise is much more complicated than the familiar and dominant theory that a single asteroid hit Earth 65 million years ago and caused the mass extinction known as the Cretacious-Tertiary, or K/T, boundary. Keller and a growing number of colleagues around the world are turning up evidence that, rather than a single event, an intensive period of volcanic eruptions as well as a series of asteroid impacts are likely to have stressed the world ecosystem to the breaking point. Although an asteroid or comet probably struck Earth at the time of the dinosaur extinction, it most likely was, as Keller says, the straw that broke the camel's back and not the sole cause. Perhaps more controversially, Keller and colleagues contend that the straw -- that final impact -- is probably not what most scientists believe it is. For more than a decade, the prevailing theory has centered on a massive impact crater in Mexico. In 1990, scientists proposed that the Chicxulub crater, as it became known, was the remnant of the fateful dinosaur-killing event and that theory has since become dogma. Keller has accumulated evidence, including results released this year, suggesting that the Chicxulub crater probably did not coincide with the K/T boundary. Instead, the impact that caused the Chicxulub crater was likely smaller than originally believed and probably occurred 300,000 years before the mass extinction. The final dinosaur-killer probably struck Earth somewhere else and remains undiscovered, said Keller. These views have not made Keller a popular figure at meteorite impact meetings. For a long time she's been in a very uncomfortable minority, said Vincent Courtillot, a geological physicist at Université Paris 7. The view that there was anything more than a single impact at work in the mass extinction of 65 million years ago has been battered meeting after meeting by a majority of very renowned scientists, said Courtillot. The implications of Keller's ideas extend beyond the downfall of ankylosaurus and company. Reviving an emphasis on volcanism, which was the leading hypothesis before the asteroid theory, could influence the way scientists think about the Earth's many episodes of greenhouse warming, which mostly have been caused by periods of volcanic eruptions. In addition, if the majority of scientists eventually reduce their estimates of the damage done by a single asteroid, that shift in thinking could influence the current-day debate on how much attention should be given to tracking and diverting Earth-bound asteroids and comets in the future. Keller does not work with big fossils such as dinosaur bones commonly associated with paleontology. Instead, her expertise is in one-celled organisms, called foraminifera, which pervade the oceans and evolved rapidly through geologic periods. Some species exist for only a couple hundred thousand years before others replace them, so the fossil remains of short-lived species constitute a timeline by which surrounding geologic features can be dated. In a series of field trips to Mexico and other parts of the world, Keller has accumulated several lines of evidence to support her view of the K/T extinction. She has found, for example, populations of pre-K/T foraminifera that lived on top of the impact fallout from Chicxulub. (The fallout is visible as a layer of glassy beads of molten rock that rained down after the impact.) These fossils indicate that this impact came about 300,000 years before the mass extinction. The latest evidence came last year from an expedition by an international team of scientists who drilled 1,511 meters into the Chicxulub crater looking for definitive evidence of its size and age. Although interpretations of the drilling samples vary, Keller contends that the results contradict nearly every established assumption about Chicxulub and confirm that the Cretaceous period persisted for 300,000 years after the impact. In addition, the Chicxulub crater appears to be much smaller than originally thought -- less than 120 kilometers in diameter
Re: [meteorite-list] A box to put my meteorites in...Part two
Rob That was an excellent story. Thanks for taking the time to share it. Now, if you take Tom's advice, and start making these for a living (let's say you reduce it to 1 month from 2 months and 1 week), you should be living high off the hog at about 10K a year!! You'd make a lot more writing!! Dave Rob Wesel wrote: Build it myself. I needed tools, I did own a few wrenches, however. Table saw, a must. Also a miter saw, sander, air compressor and finish nailer. Wood, screws, glue, nails, wires, glass, paint and Band-Aids. After assembling all the tools and reading how to use them, I made the first cut, a 7 foot by 4 foot piece of MDF that would serve as the back. More cuts came and things assembled rather smoothly. An eight inch off here, a sixteenth there, not much to worry about over the span of 7 feet. 7 feet is a very long span to install shelves so I divided the case into 4 compartments, each roughly 20 inches with adjustable shelving. Soon the skeleton was constructed, ready to paint. Exterior was not an issue, black was decided long ago. The interior was a different story. I finally decided on a shade of yellow to add contrast for both light and dark colored meteorites. I have an eye for detail and the paint was the second worst part of the whole project. In the end, the exterior is exactly 10 coats deep and the interior 5, taking into account texturing the whole thing. Let me take a minute to praise the virtues of texture paint. This was my best friend, a simple spray-paint application that hides every surface flaw! Not to mention that when painted satin black it exactly matches the texture of a standard riker mount box. I played with color, texture and finish a lot, hence 15 coats of paint in all. Next stop was the doors. I spent hours looking for the straightest wood to build door frames, took the best of the lot. Sadly, there was still too much bowing to the wood to make a frame that satisfied my eye for detail. I was this far in and was disappointed but ultimately decided to have them professionally done. The frames needed to be thin, maximum glass, and no cabinet builder could make them less than 2 inches thick all the way around. I decided on a frame shop. Paint was the second worst part of the project, frames were the worst. Four frames were made, three were crooked, seems they had the same issues. A poster frame chinches up and straightened out when you clamp in the backing, no backing on mine, only glass and that would not be enough. The guy at the frame shop was excellent to work with, he sent the three back and made a special note emphasizing straight wood. They came back straight. I was ready to go. Time to get a visual of the case with what would be the doors after a trip to the glass shop. Oops, they took my measurements as interior, not exterior, so now my 37 inch doors had a 37 inch opening and a 39 inch overall which would be fine but remember that eight inch off here, a sixteenth there, not much to worry about over the span of 7 feet, well worry about it now. I needed a little buffer to hide the off square and off angle areas. I went back to frame shop, again they order four new doors, and all four were crooked. A month had gone by in the process. They guy refunded my money and politely bailed, suggesting a competitor that had their wood in stock so errors could be quickly resolved and the wood could be hand selected. I went to this place and 24 hours later they had perfectly straight, correctly sized frames. He did work hard on it and I gave him a nice size Canyon Diablo for excellent customer service. The glass and door installation went well. Form had been achieved, now function. The case has a false top. Within the false top, only 4 inches deep I installed an intake fan in one end compartment and output in the other end. The real top has holes to allow the air to move through. All the compartments have air vents running through them so the air gets completely circulated. I sided with aesthetic on the vents so the airstream is linear versus a S-curve which would be more conducive to airflow dynamics. As the air passes through the top it goes through an electronic heater and dehumidifier. Four halogen lights were wired in on a remote control. The airflow and dehumidification are always on but the lights are at my command. Taking no risks, each compartment has its own VCI emitter as well. The case was built airtight, everywhere wood touches wood, it has been glued, then nailed, then caulked. So there you have it. Airtight, dehumidified, heated, corrosion inhibited, air circulated, halogen lit, remote controlled, UV protected, wall mounted, thin and big. A HEPA filter was installed for style points and later removed as it cut airflow too much. A RH of 31% is maintained. Time spent, 2 months 1 week. Time planned, 2 years. Time wanted on frames, 1 month. Total cost $959.46 and I keep the tools. Looking
Re: [meteorite-list] Denver Show - Part II
Adam, Some of the things you said seemed a bit rude. Maybe I read too many old threads. Maybe I still had my hackles up about your PF story. I've never met you so I realize I have no right to pick at a few off color remarks or make my own. Based on my few simple dealings with you, I do know that you deliver a great product and provide superior customer service. I assure everyone here that I will dwell on the positive in the future. Bill Kieskowski What kind of statement are you trying to make here.? Adam - Original Message - From: bill kieskowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Denver Show - Part II Death cookies? Very ominous. Maybe the girl in Elma with the bad teeth had too manyYou may think you can say any ignorant thing you like but as I was once told by a very wise man, You are wrong. Very simple and always applicable when true. Bill Kieskowski - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John Gwilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Denver Show - Part II Dear John and List Members, Even though it is off topic, enough people have asked what the heck a death cookie is? It is a drink with about five different types of liquor in it that tastes just like an oatmeal cookie. What makes it so dangerous is that you can not taste the booze in it. A hefty person will reach their retardation point at three feet altitude (about the height of a bar stool) after drinking about two of them. The only good thing about them is if you need to lay low a competitor for the next 24 hours or are trying to purchase material cheap from somebody under the influence of this stuff because it will blow you out of your sneakers. I hope this helps, Adam - Original Message - From: John Gwilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Denver Show - Part II Adam and the Denver Desperados, Okay guys...all of you that were present in Denver keep referring to these aweful oatmeal cookies...aka...death cookies mixed drinks. Knowing most of you guys, I thought you'd drink just about anything;-) Would one of you be so kind as to give us a better description of this drink, or better yet the suspected recipe? Inquiring Mind, John At 12:57 PM 9/18/03 -0700, Adam Hupe wrote: Oh the dreaded oatmeal cookies. These have since been renamed death cookies because they cause category 5 type hangovers which means catatonic. I hope these are not proudly served at Tucson. All the best, Adam - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] ; mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] l.com Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Denver Show - Part II In a message dated 18/09/03 01:49:23 GMT Daylight Time, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: a middle age man This man was Rob Elliott. Middle-aged??? Mark, please remind me to buy you several large oatmeal cookies next Denver show ;-) Rob Elliott http://www.meteorites.uk.comwww.meteorites.uk.com Fernlea Meteorites, The Wynd, Off Dickson Lane, Milton of Balgonie, Fife. KY7 6PY United Kingdom Tel: +44-(0)1592-751563 Fax: +44-(0)1592-751991 Mobile: 07909-773929 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Denver Show - Part II
Dear Bill and List Members, I agree with Bill's statement, that is one of the reasons I have not been posting much to the List, lately. It seems some members are very sensitive to comments I have made and I do not want to encourage bad will. The Denver Death Cookie comments were intended for fun, not to insult anybody. I did not mention any names because that would be rude. I have been spending a lot of time in the field is the other reason I have not been posting much. I am tired of all of the attacks on the List and want to concentrate on more positive things. I just got back from searching for meteorites in sand dunes for five days with a Quad Runner at Moses Lake and found it very relaxing. I want to enjoy the good weather why it lasts before starting on the LunarRock.com web site, a major undertaking which will keep us busy for months. If I insulted anybody in the past please accept my apologies. Wishing everybody well, Adam Hupe - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Denver Show - Part II Adam, Some of the things you said seemed a bit rude. Maybe I read too many old threads. Maybe I still had my hackles up about your PF story. I've never met you so I realize I have no right to pick at a few off color remarks or make my own. Based on my few simple dealings with you, I do know that you deliver a great product and provide superior customer service. I assure everyone here that I will dwell on the positive in the future. Bill Kieskowski What kind of statement are you trying to make here.? Adam - Original Message - From: bill kieskowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Denver Show - Part II Death cookies? Very ominous. Maybe the girl in Elma with the bad teeth had too manyYou may think you can say any ignorant thing you like but as I was once told by a very wise man, You are wrong. Very simple and always applicable when true. Bill Kieskowski - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John Gwilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Denver Show - Part II Dear John and List Members, Even though it is off topic, enough people have asked what the heck a death cookie is? It is a drink with about five different types of liquor in it that tastes just like an oatmeal cookie. What makes it so dangerous is that you can not taste the booze in it. A hefty person will reach their retardation point at three feet altitude (about the height of a bar stool) after drinking about two of them. The only good thing about them is if you need to lay low a competitor for the next 24 hours or are trying to purchase material cheap from somebody under the influence of this stuff because it will blow you out of your sneakers. I hope this helps, Adam - Original Message - From: John Gwilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Denver Show - Part II Adam and the Denver Desperados, Okay guys...all of you that were present in Denver keep referring to these aweful oatmeal cookies...aka...death cookies mixed drinks. Knowing most of you guys, I thought you'd drink just about anything;-) Would one of you be so kind as to give us a better description of this drink, or better yet the suspected recipe? Inquiring Mind, John At 12:57 PM 9/18/03 -0700, Adam Hupe wrote: Oh the dreaded oatmeal cookies. These have since been renamed death cookies because they cause category 5 type hangovers which means catatonic. I hope these are not proudly served at Tucson. All the best, Adam - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] ; mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] l.com Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Denver Show - Part II In a message dated 18/09/03 01:49:23 GMT Daylight Time, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: a middle age man This man was Rob Elliott. Middle-aged??? Mark, please remind me to buy you several large oatmeal cookies next Denver show ;-) Rob Elliott http://www.meteorites.uk.comwww.meteorites.uk.com Fernlea
[meteorite-list] New NWA's just keep coming!!
List members, I know some of you guys/gals are not big NWA fans, but it is amazing to see the awesome specimens that are still coming out of Africa. For instance, Mike Farmer's new Howardite, NWA 1942 is truly an awesome specimen. I received a small slice this week and it looks like an achondrite goulash...meat, potatoes, all kinds of veggies in a nice sauce. What a mish-mash(mixture) of meteorite parts and pieces!! As Mike said in his description...it maybe one of, if not the nicest/coolest Howardite around. I only had one other sample of a Howardite before this one...I'm glad I waited. The new NWA eucrites, urelites, C's, diogenites, mesosiderites, and other rarities just keep coming. I'm sure new Lunars and SNC's are not far behind. These numbered rocks certainly don't have the history or the romance of the old standby's or new falls, but from a type collector's standpoint...they are just stunning. A problem we collectors have is that we can only buy so much...leaving the majority of NWA numbers to other collectors. Anymore, I have to be very picky because the numbers and options are just too much for me. I don't need everyone of the eucrites, etc. My apologies if I've offended or irritated anyone including the more classical collectors, or those who have a problem with the NWA situation as a whole...this is just a simple, but overwhelmed collector's view on some great looking rare material. Thanx for reading, John __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 05-1948 Sikhote Meteorites Fall Investigated
Title: Nashua Telegraph City: Nashua, New Hampshire Date: Wednesday, May 26, 1948 Page: 4 Moscow is waiting word from the scientific expedition sent to find the latest enormous meteorite, or "shooting star," which fell in Kamchatka, the bleak peninsula in the east of Siberia. This is the third great meteorite to fall in Siberia in this century. Last year, one of the biggest ever known fell in a remote mountainous wilderness north of Vladivostok. Peasants saw a huge fireball hurtling through the air on a sunny morning, its red tail leaving a broad smoke trail. Before it reached the ground the cosmic missile exploded with a roar heard 50 miles away.Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 08-1948 Scientists Get Evidence of Sikhote Meteorite
Title: Portland Press Herald City: Portland, Maine Date: Monday, August 09, 1948 Page: 20 Soviet Scientists Get Evidence of MeteoriteLondon, Aug. 8. (AP) - An expedition of the Soviet Academy of Sciences is back in Moscow with a collection of eyewitness stories of a giant meteorite that fell in Siberia. A Soviet News Agency (Tass) report distrubuted by the Soviet monitor said the expedition interviewed nearly 300 persons in 50 villages who saw the "shooting star" before it landed Feb. 12, 1947, on a ridge north of Vladivostok. "They all unanimously declared that the trail of the meteorite, the flight of which was visible for four or five seconds, was brighter than the sunlight in clear weather in a cloudless sky on that day,' said the report. The body was said to have traveled 12 miles a second with a roar heard 125 miles away. Its weigh was estimated at 1,000 tons. The 30-square mile area where the meteorite fell has been proclaimed a national reserve.Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 05-1939 Goose Lake Meteorite Found
Paper: Reno Gazette City: Reno, Nevada Date: Thursday, May 04, 1939 Page: 16 METEOR IS FOUND IN MODOC LAVA COUNTRYOAKLAND, Calif., May 4 (AP) - Three scientists fought their way along a seven-mile mountainside trail of boulders and fallen trees in far-northern California today to bring out what they called "the finest specimen of meteorite ever found on the Pacific coast." It weighed 1 1/2 tons. Prof. Earle G. Linsley, director of Chabot observatory here, sent word from the isolated area in the Modoc national forest, five miles south of the Oregon line, that the meteor would arrive here by truck Saturday. The tall, sandy-haired scientists, in terming the meteorite the "finest specimen" found on the coast, estimated it fell one thousand years ago. The ground beneath it was not dented, and Prof. Linsley theorized the meteorite fell when glaciers covered the area, and settled gently as the ice melted. He said it would be known as the "Goose Lake" meteorite because it was discovered in the Goose Lake area forty milrs from Alturas, Calif. -- One of the largest meteorites ever found in the United States has been discoverd in the barren lava county of Modoc National forest in northern California, officials of the United States forest service reported today. Weighing between one and three tons, the solid metal body takes a place among the nation's seven largest known meteors. The wedge shaped mass is reported to vary from one to three feet in width and is four feet long. C. A. Schmidt of Oakland made the find last October while deer hunting on the Modoc forest with two companions. He confided his discovery to forest service officers and since than a number of scientists and representatives of the scientific institutes have become interested in the fallen body. The Smithsonian Institute of Washington, D. C. has taken a particular interest in the discovery since all meteorites found on government land become the property of the institute. It was believed that considerable difficulty will be met in hauling the heavy object to civilization. Schmidt, accompanied by Professor Earle G. Lindsley of Mills College and Chabot Observatory, Oakland, and Dr. H. H. Nininger, scientist and outstanding meteor authority from Denver, Colo. packed in to the wilderness lava beds this week to study the meteorite. The party is being assisted by forest service rangers. Preliminary analysis shows that the meteorite is composed largely of iron. The extent of surface oxidation is said to be quite limited, indicating that the body had fallen in geologically recent years.Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] Slikensides Definition
Hi Everyone- It is a beautiful clear fall night in Ohio. One of those outside that just makes you glad to be alive. I've went through all of my meteorite books for a word definition but cannot find it. Would somebody please tell me what the meteorite definition of slickensides is? I've just purchased a small micro with this included in the description but am failing to see what this is. Could somebody help me out? Thank You. Hope your having a wonderful night also. Mike __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite from Jupiter
Hello all, I visited Alamo today to view the so called Jupiter meteorite and others so proclaimed. When i arrived at the door i was greeted by an older woman and her Tahitian husband. They escorted me back to their office where i sat down. I was told that they were just trying to help out a friend who at this time was in France receiving treatment for cancer due to their socialized medicine. She said thankfully she is in remission. I was equipped with all the necessary equipment for any possible detection of any suspected meteorite along with some nice examples of real meteorites. I brought along a whole fresh fusion crusted whole stone of a fall i recently picked up in Mexico a slice of Esquell and a Sikhote alin to educate them on the main group of meteorites. I also brought along some written info on the planet Jupiter to give to her friend and explained to them why these rocks could not be from there. They were very receptive and learned quite alot. I started vieving the sample rocks she was given and asked her where her friend had found them. She was reluctant at first not saying much as her friend did not want the location known. There were about 10 different samples. As i started unwrapping each specimen, it became evident this rocks were different volcanic basalts and glasses and mantle xenoliths. I explained to them what kind of rocks these were and they seemed relieved they now knew the answers and that this was over. They could now wraps these up and send them back to her friend with an explanation as to what they were. They had done all they could to help out their friend. They then told me that she brought them back from Tahiti and took them to the Bishop Museum in Hawaii. Why they could not identify them as being pieces of Volcanic material being from the islands is beyond me. She then told me the story of how she believed she was being followed back to her room. I was told later her room was broken in to. Now she is believing she has something valuable. They continued on for about an hour telling stories about Tahiti and giving me their business card and some very useful info on travel there along with a name of a close friend whos a pilot who can island hop me around. Apon leaving i was given some Tahitian rocks and shells along with a set of large shark jaws. Obviously there was no scam involved here, just a lack of knowledge of 2 older people just trying to help out a friend. These were 2 of the nicest people i have ever met and it was a pleasure seeing the relief on their faces knowing the truth. Bob C. - Original Message - From: John Gwilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 12:05 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite from Jupiter Hello List, In this morning's mail, I received an unusual letter from a Mrs. Cheung in Alamo, California. The letter says they are contacting me (the recipient of the letter) for a friend who wants some help selling some meteorites in her possession. It goes on to say that some of the stones have already been identified as meteorites by the Bishop Museum in Honolulu. They list five different samples that have been identified by the museum and they list densities for the specimens but no weights. Here is the interesting information in the letter. In addition to the samples she has given us some photographs of the meteorites. During a conversation with her, one of the meteorites was identified as coming from the planet Jupiter. Imagine that, a meteorite from Jupiter! If anyone wants to pursue this, let me know and I'll give you the contact information;-) Best, John Gwilliam __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Three world class howardites for sale
Hello all, display case is done and now I can get back to meteorites instead of wood. Fresh from the Sahara are some excellent new howardites. The first is NWA 1929, collected in 2003 with a TKW of 922 grams. This is a bit different to look at as it has largely been crystallized, still plenty to see but much more homogenized and a lot harder to come by. These are complete slices folks and represent 20% of the entire mass after cutting. 70.54 grams, $6000 delivered worldwide and insured. http://makeashorterlink.com/?N20B12306 74.10 grams, $6300 delivered worldwide and insured. http://makeashorterlink.com/?N20B12306 The next little guy is NWA 1939, again collected in 2003 with a much smaller TKW of 100.4 grams. Offered here is a polished uncut showing classic howardite chaos 14.80 grams, $1300 delivered worldwide and insured. http://makeashorterlink.com/?N20B12306 First come first served. The prices are luxurious but how many folks have slices as big as these bad boys. More photos or info on request, feel free to call me at 503-693-6427 Pacific time. -- Rob Wesel -- We are the music makers...and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Definitions for Slickenside [Slick-n-sides]
Searched the web for slickenside. Results 1 - 10 of about 1,360. slickenside. The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English ... slickenside. The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition. 2000. ... 2000. slickenside. SYLLABICATION: slick·en·side. ... http://www.bartleby.com/61/27/S0472700.html - 18k - Slickenside ... Advertisement. Slickenside. Photo courtesy Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique The Vuache fault is exposed at the foot of ... http://geology.about.com/library/bl/images/blslick.htm - 23k Coolrox Limited: Slickenside Abstract ... The image on the left is the slickenside with the horizontal slickenlines; on the right is an enhanced image where the blue helps to define the slickenlines. ... http://coolrox.com/abstract.htm - 5k - Sep 24, 2003 Coolrox Limited: Slickenside Story ... COOL-ROX. The Slickenside Repository. Here's a story about the 'Mother of All Slickensides'. from Atlin, British Columbia, Canada. http://coolrox.com/slickone.htm - 5k [ More results from coolrox.com ] slickenside slickenside. Smoothed surfaces along planes of weakness resulting from the movement of one mass of soil against another in soils dominated by swelling clays. ... http://sis.agr.gc.ca/cansis/glossary/slickenside.html - 6k [meteorite-list] Slickenside [meteorite-list] Slickenside. Bernd Pauli ... Charlie wrote: Can anyone clarify for me the origin of slickenside in meteorites? I understand ... http://www.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2001-September/025862.html - 5k [meteorite-list] Slickenside [meteorite-list] Slickenside. Michel Franco ... Dear all, Thanks to Charlie, Bernd and Eric for their comments about slickenside. Please find ... http://www.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2001-September/025885.html - 6k [ More results from www.pairlist.net ] Cretaceous Fossils: Slickenside Calcite Page Copyright © 2000 cretaceousfossils.com. All rights reserved. http://www.cretaceousfossils.com/minerals/big_calcite_1.htm Dictionary - Yahooligans! Reference - ... Search Dictionary Enter a word or phrase to look up (eg, abacus): slickenside. ... slickenside. SYLLABICATION: slick·en·side. PRONUNCIATION: AUDIO: sl k ns d KEY. ... http://www.yahooligans.com/reference/dictionary/entries/27/s0472700.html - 11k Dictionary - Yahoo! Reference ... Search Dictionary Enter a word or phrase to look up (eg, abacus): slickenside. Email this definition to a friend ... slickenside. SYLLABICATION: slick·en·side. ... http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entries/27/s0472700.html - 18k - Cached - Similar pages [meteorite-list] Slickenside Next message: [meteorite-list] Slickenside not only tectonic; ... http://www.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2001-September/025885.html [meteorite-list] Slickenside. James Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun, 23 Sep2001 23:13:15 -0400 (EDT): ... http://www.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2001-September/025869.html - 7k [ More results from www.pairlist.net ] CGzag ... mineral dealer back shop These fragments have been preserved with care in our dry meteorite showcase. Some present the famous thick Zag crust and slickenside. ... http://www.themeteorites.com/TM2/CGZag.htm - Nevada Meteorite Picture of the Day ... found in Nevada is the Primm Meteorite. This particular specimen has fractured along a surface that appears to exhibit a feature called slickenside, which is ... http://www.geocities.com/bolidechaser/nvpod-archive/03-07-07.htm - [meteorite-list] Slikensides Definition Mike Groetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu, 25 Sep 2003 17:17:11 -0700 (PDT) Hi Everyone- It is a beautiful clear fall night in Ohio. One of those outside that just makes you glad to be alive. I've went through all of my meteorite books for a word definition but cannot find it. Would somebody please tell me what the meteorite definition of slickensides is? I've just purchased a small micro with this included in the description but am failing to see what this is. Could somebody help me out? Thank You. Hope your having a wonderful night also. Mike __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Winonaite
Hi List. Anyone know much about NWA 1463. It's a Winonaite and I have read just little about this. Questions include where the main mass resides, any in private hands and/or willing to sell a specimen, TKW . Any info would be helpful. Thanks Don Merchant
Re: [meteorite-list] Odessa Crater
Hi Max and all, Your link is to the Meteor(ite) Crater in Arizona. I think Teresa was wanting the information to the Odessa Meteorite Crater in Texas. My best! --AL __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Odessa Crater
Dear List: I wrote an article about Odessa Craters and Visitor Center in Meteorite magazine. If you have a copy of that issue, it gives all the information that you are seeking. Sincerely, Dirk Ross...Tokyo P.S. If you haven't been there I encourage you to take a trip and have a look. dr almitt wrote: Hi Max and all, Your link is to the Meteor(ite) Crater in Arizona. I think Teresa was wanting the information to the Odessa Meteorite Crater in Texas. My best! --AL __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
