[meteorite-list] Dean's new meteorite NWA 1881
G'day List, I've been intrigued by Dean's new meteorite and just what its classification may be. I just posted a page yesterday to my site which has another meteorite which looks just a little like this. It's NWA 1881 but has a miniscule TKW of about 10g and has been classified as a fairly rare LL4-6. The link is below for you viewing pleasure should you be interested. http://www.meteoritesaustralia.com/features/nwa1881.html Cheers, Jeff KuykenI.M.C.A. #3085www.meteorites.com.auwww.meteoritesaustralia.com P.S. If you haven't seen Dean's newmeteorite yet, I think you should take a look! Very interesting! Here's the link: http://www.meteoriteshop.com/900salepage.html
[meteorite-list] Park Forest Auction ending tonight
List, I have several pristine larger park forest meteorites ending tonight on ebay: http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=maccers531include=0since=-1sort=3rows=50 They arent cheap , but higher quality never is. Ive been searching the entire strewnfield profusely for a year with no new finds, which only reinforces the value of the meteorites from the most incredible fall that we will probably ever see in our lifetime. Bob Evans
[meteorite-list] Dean's new meteorite
Jeff K. wrote: I've been intrigued by Dean's new meteorite and just what its classification may be. I just posted a page yesterday to my site which has another meteorite which looks just a little like this. It's NWA 1881 but has a miniscule TKW of about 10g and has been classified as a fairly rare LL4-6. Quite a few persons are right now brooding over Dean's new NWA pics wondering what it could be. I'm one of these, I have been discussing it with several list members and I dare say guesses are surely running wild :-) Here are some of these guesses: 1) howardite 2) howardite paired with the Hupes' NWA 1929 3) eucrite, eucritic breccia - maybe paired with NWA 047 4) regolith breccia 5) lunar 6) LL4 7) LL4-6, maybe paired with NWA 1881 8) weakly magnetic LL6 Any further guesses or comments? And while we are at it, let me fess up: I am also one those who have been so very much intrigued by this new meteorite that I fell for it and purchased a slice. Hmmm, ... iIf I only knew for sure what it is. Any constructive (!) comments very much appreciated. Best Sunny Sunday wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mike's NWA 2092 LL6/7
Hello list, Ted Bunch has given his okay to post the following information on Mike's NWA 2092, for all those interested, as I am. Also of interest, a nice thin section image of an L7 showing those features characteristic of type 7 chondrites can be seen on my NWA 1839 page of meteoritestudies.com (courtesy of NAU). When I get a piece of the LL6/7, I also have a nice TS photo of that one to show for comparison. Regards, David __ Preface: the overall texture of 2092 is complicated by a shock metamorphism overlay; brecciation and thermal annealing along fractures, clast outlines and matrix, i. e., instead of an equigranular texture (grains of similar size), which we find in true and uncomplicated sevens, the grain size is highly variable from a shock recrystallization event. Dodd criteria: 1.the presence of poorly defined chondrules in type 6, but only relict chondrules in type 7 There are relict chondrule fragments of mostly radial chondrules in 2092. I respect the Dodd criteria, although they were formulated ~ 24 years ago and nothing else has come along, even though many more sevens have been recorded. If we are to have a seven category, then we feel that there should be no chondrule remnants in a seven, otherwise why have the additional compartment. Regardless of whether they are very fuzzy or only partly fuzzy. 2.low-Ca pyroxenes in type 6 contain no more than 1.0 wt% CaO (1.0 wt% = ~1.9 mol% Wo), but more than 1.0 wt% in type 7; conversely, the CaO content of high-Ca pyroxenes decreases from type 6 to type 7. 2092 CaO contents average 1.0 wt % in orthopyroxene the fence line on this issue. 3.feldspar grains gradually coarsen to reach a size of at least 0.1 mm in type 7. The 0.1 mm size is a good point, but is not all of the story if the size range of all minerals are considered. We feel that the similar grain size of all silicates is the critical issue. In addition, in true sevens, some plagioclase shows simple twinning. Not so in lesser grades. In addition to Dodds criteria, we have observed that the amount of metal (modal/vol. %) decreases significantly in sevens. NWA 3100 has 1 vol % metal, which is taenite. Apparently, during the last stages of metamorphism, low metal is consumed to make olivine. In fact, our modal analyses of sevens show that considerable amounts of olivine have been made at the expense of metal and pyroxenes, which leaves only small amounts of Ni-rich metal and lower amounts of orthopyroxene and clinopyroxene relative to those in lower metamorphic grades. There are other observations, but none of those given here (original to us) have been tested in a court of science review. Later, perhaps. Bottom line: We could go either way on the classification (6 or 7), but the shock metamorphic overlay and the Dodd margins suggested to us that the best classification was and is a transitional 6/7. We will stand by this until our future study or studies by other investigators suggest otherwise. Best regards, Ted __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NWA 003
Good morning list.I really would like to know who could really help me.I am looking for a piece of NWA 003.I am looking for a 2 to 4 gram piece.I am going to do some study on it, and I am wondering if anyone could please send me to someone who might have some forsale or trade.Aslo please ignore the last post,I accidently pushed the send button.Let me know, I will be spending 2 to 4 weeks on this in my spare time. it has become a very interesting piece. steve arnold, chicago, usa!! = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Weekly eBayMeteorites (STAR link correction)
Hello all, I invite everyone to take a look at this weeks eBay offerings at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eBayMeteorites/ Check it out. Steve Schoner P.S. As a donation to IMCA I will soon offer a very rare Nininger Sphereoid Start in a private-exclusive auction at the eBayMeteorites site, maybe next week once I work out the details as to how I intend to do it. See the star at: http://www.geocities.com/american_meteorite_survey/STAR.jpg __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] SALE: REALLY COOL METEORITE
Dear List, Just for the record we were not the original group to have the recrystallized Howardite NWA 1929 classified. We just sent in a secondary type specimen for pairing purposes. Dean's new stone is a Polymict Eucrite and is not paired with NWA 1929 as we already submitted a sample months ago. You can look at pictures on ebay or dealers web-sites and see that NWA 1929 is completely different. We will be busy until Tuesday. If anybody is interested we will post images of the new Polymict Eucrite next to NWA 1929, a true Howardite early next week. All the best, Adam and Greg Hupe IMCA 2185 - Original Message - From: dean bessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 5:35 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] SALE: REALLY COOL METEORITE I dont know what this is, havent sent it for classification, and this poor lost meteorite dont even have a name to call its own. The nomad that I bought it from said that it was Lunar (He also told me that the H5s, L6s and a bunch other stuff that I bought from him was lunar also - but we wont talk about that right now). But I figure - hey, what the heck, I will ask $20 a gram for it anyway. I hope that everybody buys it all because then I wont have to go through the trouble and effort to try and get it named and classified (I hate having stuff for more than 3 weeks). My prices are probably lower than most other dealers would charge but I can offer a 25% discount on my listed prices to list members. Paypal preferred form of payment (because the Moroccans are hounding me for payment on this rock). Cheers DEAN http://www.meteoriteshop.com/900salepage.html PS: This is cool. Look just to see the pictures even if you are not interested in buying any. WARNING: If you do this you might really be tempted to lighten your pocket book. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] SALE: REALLY COOL METEORITE
A year or so ago, I found a strange rock near Percy Priest Lake. I described it in Mark's chatroom. That it looked kind of like Limestone but had a burnt smell to it. And what looked like fusion crust and funny things like chondrites. Anyway.. it just looked odd to me. Anyway .. for those of you who asked to describe it.. It looks similar to Dean's picture # 6. It is still at school where my friend is to scan it under the SEM. But best to my memory..Pic # 6 look similar to what I recall. Rosie - Original Message - From: dean bessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 7:35 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] SALE: REALLY COOL METEORITE I dont know what this is, havent sent it for classification, and this poor lost meteorite dont even have a name to call its own. The nomad that I bought it from said that it was Lunar (He also told me that the H5s, L6s and a bunch other stuff that I bought from him was lunar also - but we wont talk about that right now). But I figure - hey, what the heck, I will ask $20 a gram for it anyway. I hope that everybody buys it all because then I wont have to go through the trouble and effort to try and get it named and classified (I hate having stuff for more than 3 weeks). My prices are probably lower than most other dealers would charge but I can offer a 25% discount on my listed prices to list members. Paypal preferred form of payment (because the Moroccans are hounding me for payment on this rock). Cheers DEAN http://www.meteoriteshop.com/900salepage.html PS: This is cool. Look just to see the pictures even if you are not interested in buying any. WARNING: If you do this you might really be tempted to lighten your pocket book. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Dean's really cool new meteorite
.. not so cool after all but rather hot instead as several controversial emails (private communication) and equally controversial posts show. Well, while it may or may not be paired with NWA 1929, it does look more like a howardite than a eucrite to me, especially when you color adjust it a bit electronically. As for NWA 1929, I wrote to Dean: I don't know. It does look similar, and, yet, there may be subtle differences. The fine-grained matrix of the Hupes' NWA 1929 looks a bit different visually but photos can be deceiving. Another list member wrote that the Hupes' NWA 1929 definitely looked fresher and had less or no cracks. Clarification: When I wrote the Hupes' NWA 1929, I did not refer to who had it classified but where on EBay you would find it if interested! At the moment it all seems to boil down to a visual, preliminary, and arbitrary classification as a howardite or a eucrite. Maybe a little polishing of Dean's slices would clarify things a bit more and a thin section would probably reveal its real status as a eucrite or a howardite. Who cares, ... I love it for what it is: another friendly messenger from the vast reaches of our solar system, another gem that will probably still be there when we are long gone. Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tschermak and Eucrites - Part 3 of 3
TSCHERMAK G. (1885) Die mikroskopische Beschaffenheit der Meteoriten (Stuttgart E. Schweizerbart'sche Verlagshandlung, E. Koch, 23 pp.). English Translation: The Microscopic Properties of Meteorites, Vol. 4, No. 6 (Smithsonian Contributions to Astrophysics, Washington, D.C., 1964). Translation by J.A. Wood and E.M. Wood Description of Meteorite Types The calcium-rich stones, poor in metallic iron - Eucrites: Juvinas, Stannern, Jonzac Although they are not easily explained, the properties described above give the impression that the originally tuffaceous groundmass was remelted and that anorthite and purified (inclusion-free) diopside crystallized out of the melt. The yellow plates would then be paramorphs. The remelting of a porous ground- mass would explain the existence of the many small druses. Opaque constituents are rare in Juvinas; pyrrhotite, chromite, and nickel-iron have been recognized. Rose has found pyrrhotite crystallized in druses and has determined its form. He has also observed nickel-iron, which is very rare. Besides these, I found iron-black grains which have the properties of chromite. The eucrite Stannern is quite similar to Juvinas, but its structure is more pronouncedly tuffaceous (Rose, 1864, and Tschermak, 1872c). In the same specimen, granular, radiating fibrous, and almost cryptocrystalline fragments and debris can be seen mixed together. Some individual stones of the Stannern fall are granular like Juvinas; others are much darker in color and fine-grained to cryptocrystalline in texture. The anorthite and augite have the same properties in Stannern as in Juvinas, except that well-developed crystal faces are less common; instead, the two minerals often form an intergrowth of alternating plates. The yellow silicate and troilite are also present in Stannern. The Jonzac meteorites are very similar to Juvinas. According to Rose, the Petersburg (Tennessee) meteorite resembles Stannern in its petrography. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Heating tektites
Hi All, I have an unusual question for the group: what happens to a tektite when you heat it up to its melting point and then let it cool back down? Aside from any plastic changes in the shape, are there any color effects? I wouldn't have thought so, but I've been told of cases of heat-treating tektites to drastically alter their color, and I wondered if it was a bunch of baloney. --Rob __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Heating tektites
Hi Rob and all, I bought a bunch of tektites once and had a few defects that I experimented on. A friend and I heated up a not so good looking tektite. It first took a long time to heat up with a direct flame from a welding torch. I am not sure how hot my friend said the torch went up to but some where between 2,000 and 3,000 degrees F. I warned him of possible air pockets that might make it explode so he wore some good grade goggles to heat with and some other protective clothing. We heated it up until it was red hot which took a good number of minutes. Then finally it started to get white hot and melted to some degree very slowly. Took a long time to cool (probably because we were wanting to handle it after it did cool). I didn't notice any real color change for the short time it was molten. It still seem to retain it's natural color which I would expect if minerals are dissolved in the glass. If any color change was noted it seem to have a slight bluish tinge to it but that could have been from the fuel and discoloring it. That's my report. --AL __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Heating tektites
Hi Rob and List; I work in art glass as a hobby and experimented a few years ago with a small green moldavite. I crushed it down to small bits (approx. 10mm dia.) and then heated the lot to about 1000F and attached it to the outside of a gather of molten glass. I then heated this mass to approx. 2400F for several minutes. At this temperature the moldavite glass never seemed to really melt (it remained as semi-hard bits on the molten mass). Upon cooling, the moldavite glass reverted to the same color as it started, although it did seem to have a slight metallic tinge usually associated with glass that has been reduced (as in exposure to a low oxygen flame). Best Regards, Art [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED] ' [EMAIL PROTECTED], '[EMAIL PROTECTED] ' [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Matson, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 03/28/2004 12:25PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Heating tektites Hi All, I have an unusual question for the group: what happens to a tektite when you heat it up to its melting point and then let it cool back down? Aside from any plastic changes in the shape, are there any color effects? I wouldn't have thought so, but I've been told of cases of heat-treating tektites to drastically alter their color, and I wondered if it was a bunch of baloney. --Rob __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Dean's really cool new meteorite
In a message dated 3/28/2004 1:29:38 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At the moment it all seems to boil down to a "visual", "preliminary", and "arbitrary" classification as a howardite or a eucrite. Maybe a little polishing of Dean's slices would clarify things a bit more and a thin section would probably reveal its real status as a eucrite or a howardite. To help a bit I just posted a piece of NWA047 on my site: http://www.impactika.com/meteorities/nwa0475.html And I do have more if anyone is interested. Anne M. Black www. IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMCA #2356
Re: [meteorite-list] Wells Creek Impact Crater.
You can load a topo-map, aerial image + some other information about Wells Creek from; http://www.cs.utk.edu/~dunigan/landforms/m.php?wpt=STX001 also information of Howell crater and Flynn Creek crater from the same site. best, pekka s Mark A. Massey wrote: Hello List, I was just going to ask if anybody out there has any significant information regarding the Wells Creek,TN Impact Crater. I will be taking a trip out there with a friend to do some research and possibly see what type of info we can pick up regarding what happened. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I was also going to ask if there are any members from Georgia on this list?. I heard that there may be some shatter cones in the area around the Wells Creek Impact Crater. Best Regards, Mark A. Massey __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Pekka Savolainen Jokiharjuntie 4 FIN-71330 Rasala FINLAND + 358 400 818 912 Group Home Page: http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/eurocoin Group Email Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wells Creek Impact Crater.
Hello Mark and list, You can find some basic information on Wells Creek and photos of some shatter cones in the collection page of my website. http://www.meteoritearticles.com/colwellscreekshat.html The best source of information I know on the crater is "Geology of the Wells Creek Structure. Tennessee" from the Tennessee Division of Geology. It is old, 1968, but it is a slipcase with a nice hardbound book (236 pg.) and four maps inside. I only have one copy but you should be able to find it online if you looked. I thinkit runs around $75.00-$100.00 usually. Besides the shatter cone I know breccia has been found there. However, there is a breccia older then the impact, which is not related, found at the site as well. Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com
[meteorite-list] nwa 237
Hello list.I need a question answerd.Is the TKW of NWA 237, 61 grams or 1350 grams?Meteorites A to Z says, 61 grams.On MARK BOSTICK'S website I saw a slice for 22 grams with a specimen card of a TKW of 1350 grams.Who is correct?I think we had this discussion before.I could be wrong, could someone please let me know who is right/ steve = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Oriented Juanchang ad
Hi all, In case anyone is interested, I have a 24g oriented Juancheng with 16 minutes to go on ebay FOR UNDER A DOLLAR A GRAM. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2234007297 Best wishes, Michael __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Cow's on mars!
And were were looking for them on the Mmmoo...n. Howard Wu http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3577551.stm Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now
[meteorite-list] OT AD, astronomy book sale. : 0
Hello list, I have to much stuff !!! So I am going to sell some of my astronomy books and thought I would offer them to the list if anyone's interested. : ) They are all in pretty good condition. : ) Burnham's Celestial Handbook (3 volume set) 1978 Hard back w/ dustcovers (greatest astronomy books ever written) $30.00 plus actual shipping The Planet Observer's Handbook by Fred W. Price 1994 Paperback $10.00 plus actual shipping The New York Times Guide to the Return of Halley's Comet 1985 Hard back w/ dustcover (Old library book in ok condition) $8.00 plus actual shipping Sky Telescopes Astrophotography: An introduction by H. J. P. Arnold 1995 Paperback $10.00 plus actual shipping Astrophotography For The Amateur by Michael Covington 1998 Paperback $10.00 plus actual shipping Peterson Field Guides: Stars and Planets 1997 Paperback $10.00 plus actual shipping National Audubon Society: Field Guide to the Night Sky 1997 $10.00 plus actual shipping The Backyard Astronomer's Guide by Dickinson and Dyer 1997 Hard cover $25.00 plus actual shipping Thanks, Tom peregrineflier Proudest member of the YMCA # OU812 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT AD, astronomy book sale. : 0
Oop's I left one on the kitchen table. : 0 British Astronomical Association: Guide to observing the moon 1986 Hard Cover $10.00 plus actual shipping Thanks, Tom peregrineflier Proudest member of the YMCA # OU812 - Original Message - From: Tom aka James Knudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 8:46 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] OT AD, astronomy book sale. : 0 Hello list, I have to much stuff !!! So I am going to sell some of my astronomy books and thought I would offer them to the list if anyone's interested. : ) They are all in pretty good condition. : ) Burnham's Celestial Handbook (3 volume set) 1978 Hard back w/ dustcovers (greatest astronomy books ever written) $30.00 plus actual shipping The Planet Observer's Handbook by Fred W. Price 1994 Paperback $10.00 plus actual shipping The New York Times Guide to the Return of Halley's Comet 1985 Hard back w/ dustcover (Old library book in ok condition) $8.00 plus actual shipping Sky Telescopes Astrophotography: An introduction by H. J. P. Arnold 1995 Paperback $10.00 plus actual shipping Astrophotography For The Amateur by Michael Covington 1998 Paperback $10.00 plus actual shipping Peterson Field Guides: Stars and Planets 1997 Paperback $10.00 plus actual shipping National Audubon Society: Field Guide to the Night Sky 1997 $10.00 plus actual shipping The Backyard Astronomer's Guide by Dickinson and Dyer 1997 Hard cover $25.00 plus actual shipping Thanks, Tom peregrineflier Proudest member of the YMCA # OU812 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Canadian Prime Minister's Plane Buzzed By Fireball
http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20040328.wufoo0328/BNStory/National/ PM's plane buzzed by UFO By JIM BRONSKILL Canadian Press March 28, 2004 Ottawa - What fate the stars hold for Paul Martin may be unclear. But one thing's certain: Canada's Prime Minister recently had a high-flying close encounter with a UFO. Mr. Martin and his entourage were cruising above Alberta when their Challenger jet came within an otherworldly whisker of a luminous object streaking through the night sky. In a report to Edmonton air traffic controllers, the pilot of Mr. Martin's plane noted seeing a very bright light falling through the air, with smoke trailing, while the aircraft passed over Suffield, Alta., on Sun., March 21. People aboard at least two other planes also saw the plummeting object, which was travelling at a very fast rate of speed from a high altitude, says the report. A copy of the one-page form, titled UFO Procedures, was provided to The Canadian Press by Chris Rutkowski of the Winnipeg-based group Ufology Research of Manitoba. Mr. Rutkowski, a long-time tracker of UFO sightings, obtained the report from the federal Transport Department, which routinely forwards him data on unidentified flying objects. Mr. Martin travelled to a farm near Picture Butte, Alta., to announce an aid package for farmers last Monday. So was an extraterrestrial envoy trying to convey a message to Canada's new leader? Unlikely, says Mr. Rutkowski. What the Prime Minister's plane and many others saw that night was almost certainty a chunk of a comet or an asteroid that entered Earth's atmosphere and burned up into fragments. An amateur astronomer in Calgary captured the blazing streak on videotape. And it appears one or more such fireballs were seen by people across the Prairies and as far east as Quebec. In any event, it's unclear if Mr. Martin or his aides even glimpsed the object that crossed the plane's path. I'm not sure of whether the Prime Minister himself was apprised of what the pilot had seen at the time, Mr. Rutkowski said. Justin Kingsley, a spokesman for the Prime Minister's Office, could not shed light on the question of whether Mr. Martin was aware of the celestial sighting. I don't have any other information than what was provided through the protocol of the pilots, said Mr. Kingsley. Ufology Research of Manitoba publishes an annual study on UFO sightings in Canada, including many cases involving meteors. The group's recently released 2003 survey found that a record 673 reports of unidentified objects were made to various organizations and investigators in Canada. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Images of NWA 1929 and New Polymict Eucrite
Dear List, Some requests have come in for visual comparisons of NWA 1929 and the new Polymict Eucrite currently under study. Image of NWA 1929 on the left and image of new Polymict Eucrite H2900 on the right: http://www.lunarrock.com/misc/HowarditeEucrite.jpg Image of Polymict Eucrite Main Mass lab number H2900. Weight of stone over 2 kilograms: http://www.lunarrock.com/misc/Eucrite.jpg We should have a NWA number for the new Polymict Eucrite in about a year because of our priority queue at which time we will release some to the public if anybody is still interested. Best Regards, Adam and Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection IMCA 2185 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Pluto help
Hey list, I was discussing Pluto with my daughter and I came up with a tough question that I would love to see an answer to. If my memory serves me right, planets are thought to have formed from debris orbiting the sun, right? I was explaining to her (sure hope I was right) how the debris was in orbit around the sun and slowly gathered up into clumps eventually forming the planets. Now then, if all this debris is orbiting on the ecliptic, how in the heck did Pluto form if it is not on that plane? Sick mime's need to know! Thanks, Tom peregrineflier Proudest member of the YMCA # OU812 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] I am back on Ebay - AD
Hello everybody, Funny how things work: I just did my taxes, so I am back on Ebay! :-) And since I have only listed 10 pieces I thought I should let you all know, you might miss me with all those guys listing 100 pieces a day! I tried to list things you don't see too often, like Lueders, Pesyanoe, Tafassasset, and of course Tatahouine. Go have a look: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/impactika/ Of course let me know if you have any questions. And, like they say, bid often and bid high! :-) Anne M. Black www. IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMCA #2356
Re: [meteorite-list] Pluto help
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sick mime's need to know! But they have to act out their symptoms. Gregory
Re: [meteorite-list] park forest update/1 year to the day
Hi Steve, Maybe it isn't as "easy as a walk in the Park" as I believe they say. Maybe try the Forest instead of focusing on the trees:) I was gone all weekend doing the same thing and got burnt and tired and have no strewn field close by, so welcome to the "0" club. Well actually fresh cowpie sneaker club. 9 hours with lunch at "Pepe's" ain't nothing. You guys need to eat some canned pork n beans and stale bread and two gallons of water and sleep in your cars. Once in a blue moon that brings good luck. Just a little humor to get enthusiastic about next time! By the way the next "true" "Blue Moon" falls on August 19, 2005. Saludos Doug En un mensaje con fecha 03/27/2004 7:08:29 PM Mexico Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribe: Good evening list.I just got home after 9 hours of meteorite hunting in park forest.It was long day and a warm one, for this time of year.There were 6 of us and WE did not find one stinkin'gram.I am so tired, I could just fall asleep right now
