RE: [meteorite-list] Franconia field trip Part II

2004-04-03 Thread moni waiblinger-seabridge
Hi Sonny,

outstanding work!
I love the images! How lucky you are being able to find those treasures!!
Congratulations, Moni

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Hi List,

Here is the link to the pictures of some of the Franconia meteorites I 
found.



http://www.notkin.net/sonny/franconia.htm

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[meteorite-list] Asteroid Heating: A Shocking View

2004-04-03 Thread Peter Marmet

Hello list,

a very interesting article was posted yesterday:

Asteroid Heating: A Shocking View
http://www.psrd.hawaii.edu/April04/asteroidHeating.html

Peter M


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[meteorite-list] Ensisheim 2004 ?

2004-04-03 Thread Marc Desruelles



Does anybody know if there wille be Ensisheim 2004 Show ?

Thx,
Marc.


[meteorite-list] Re: [MeteoriteCollectors] Ensisheim 2004 ?

2004-04-03 Thread dean bessey
--- Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does anybody know if there will be a Show in
 Ensisheim this year ?
 Thx,
 Marc.
 
 
Yes, 19th and 20th of June. Its the weekend before St
Marie which is the 24th to 27th but dealers starts
setting up in St Marie the day after ensisheim. Both
shows are nearby.
I havent finalized plans yet but I am seriously hoping
to make it this year for my first time but there are a
couple of things that I have to straiten out before I
am 100% on going. 
I understand that in St Marie hotels are just as much
of a pain to find as it is in Tucson. If anybody is
going we will all have to meet up.
Cheers
DEAN

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Re: [meteorite-list] Asteroid Heating: A Shocking View

2004-04-03 Thread GeoZay


What was the source of energy to heat them? The leading candidate is the decay of short-lived radioactive isotopes such as aluminum-26 (26Al). 

I thought a good source early on would be the planetoids plowing thru the magnetic fields of the proto sun? Various distances from the proto sun will induce various temps.
George Zay


[meteorite-list] new NWA

2004-04-03 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!
Good morning list.Remember a couple of weeks ago I said, I have 4 pieces
of a new NWA meteorite?I wanted to sell them at $10,20,30, and 40
dollars?Well I have 3 of them,1.3grams,0.3 grams,and a micro left.I am
giving them away.TKW is only 1300 grams.Bob cucchirara has the whole stone
and I have a 66 gram slice.It is an L5.A number is pending from the
nomenclature committee.So let me know if you want it.I  T  I  S  F  R  E 
E !!

STEVE ARNOLD, CHICAGO

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Re: [meteorite-list] I need help!! L, H what?

2004-04-03 Thread Jeff Grossman
Fresh H chondrites have 9-13 volume% metal plus sulfide, L chondrites have 
6-7 vol% metal plus sulfide.  But notice that a perfectly respectable H 
chondrite with 9% only has slightly more metal+sulfide than a perfectly 
respectable L with 7%. It's not always easy to distinguish on this 
basis.  The quality of the surface can also affect what you see.

With that said, here is the reason I am writing: this meteorite has not 
been approved by the Nomenclature Committee, so it may not have been 
formally classified yet.  A lot of provisional classifications get changed 
when somebody does an analysis.

jeff

At 05:14 PM 4/2/2004 -0700, you wrote:
Hello List, I am confused!  Please help me out on this!  An L is low and an
H is high, right?  If a meteorite is chocked full of visible metal can it be
a L, or is it an H??
  The reason I am asking, I recieved my NWA 869 and it has tons of metal and
I know NWA 869 is an L, now I am confused Does 869 have a ton of metal?
Or is this not 869? Please help me! : )
Thanks, Tom
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Re: [meteorite-list] Serge's Web page

2004-04-03 Thread Michael L Blood
Hi all,
I tried to get to Serge's web site via Metorite Exchange and got a
this page does not exist hit.
Can ANYONE tell me how to get to Serge's web page
Thanks - Michael




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[meteorite-list] Sale - Nakhla Micros

2004-04-03 Thread Thomas Webb
Good Morning List,
I have two more specks of Nakhla ending on ebay Sunday night. Search 2236158509 and 2236161361, or just type in Nakhla.
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[meteorite-list] I Need Help - L, H what?

2004-04-03 Thread bernd . pauli
Tom asked:

 Hello List, I am confused!  Please help me out on this!  An L is low and 
 an H is high, right?  If a meteorite is chocked full of visible metal can
 it be an L, or is it an H ?

Jeff kindly responded:

 Fresh H chondrites have 9-13 volume% metal plus sulfide, L chondrites have 
 6-7 vol% metal plus sulfide. But notice that a perfectly respectable H 
 chondrite with 9% only has slightly more metal + sulfide than a perfectly 
 respectable L with 7%. It's not always easy to distinguish on this 
 basis. The quality of the surface can also affect what you see.

Tom, the presence of a lot of visible metal can be a deceiving criterion.
Lots of L or LL chondrites have an appreciable amount of visible nickel-
iron specks or flakes, others are very poor in visible metal as some of
this total iron may be locked in the silicates (olivine, pyroxene, etc.)

Best wishes,

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Re: [meteorite-list] Serge's Web page

2004-04-03 Thread Michael L Blood
Thanks to Bob and Tom for their help.
To all others - got it now - thanks.
Best wishes, Michael


on 4/3/04 8:06 AM, Bob King at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Michael,
 If you mean Serge Vasiliev's page here's the URL: http://www.sv-
 meteorites.com/
 It was working for me just a minute ago.
 Bob
 
 
 Subject:Re: [meteorite-list] Serge's Web page
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 Hi all,
 I tried to get to Serge's web site via Metorite Exchange and got a
 this page does not exist hit.
 Can ANYONE tell me how to get to Serge's web page
 Thanks - Michael
 
 
 
 
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http://faculty.rmwc.edu/tmichalik/atmosphere.htm
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http://wires.news.com.au/special/mm/030811-hubble.htm
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Re: [meteorite-list] Serge's Web page

2004-04-03 Thread Comet Meteorite Shop
Hi Mike and ALL,
I not disappeared. Just there are some problems with the server where my 
site is. I'm trying to solve this problem ASAP. But some times we can't jump 
over the head. Hope soon all will be on its place.
Best regards ana all the best to ALL.
Serge


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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Serge's Web page
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 07:18:15 -0800
Hi all,
I tried to get to Serge's web site via Metorite Exchange and got a
this page does not exist hit.
Can ANYONE tell me how to get to Serge's web page
Thanks - Michael


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For perspective, try THIS:
http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/primer/java/scienceopticsu/powersof10/index.html
--
cool message fro Ben  Jerry:
www.TrueMajority.org/oreo
--
AMAZING photos of Aurora Borealis, etc.
http://faculty.rmwc.edu/tmichalik/atmosphere.htm
--
Hubble space telescope - AMAZING photos!:
http://wires.news.com.au/special/mm/030811-hubble.htm
--
http://www.costofwar.com/
--
SUPPORT OUR TROUPS:
http://www.takebackthemedia.com/onearmy.html
--
Worth Seeing:  Earth at night from satellite:
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg
--
- Interactive Lady Liberty:
http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm
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[meteorite-list] L, H what?

2004-04-03 Thread bernd . pauli
Hello Tom and List,

Yes, lab testing will probably be the only sure method to classify
a meteorite unambiguously. My NWA 984 (LL4) slice has lots of
easily visible FeNi metal specks, my Saint-Severin (LL6) has lots
of FeNi specks (large and small), my Parnallee (LL3.6) is choke-full
of metallic iron. Same thing with my Tenham (L6) or my Suizhou (L6).

So high iron and low iron does not primarily refer to the visible amount
of nickel iron in the matrix. Table 3.3 in D.W. Sears (1978) The Nature and
Origin of Meteorites (Adam Hilger Ltd, Bristol), p. 62 has some interesting
details:

Principal minerals in chondritic meteorites (wt%) for types 5 and 6:

Olivine H   = 33-37 / Pyroxene = 23-27 / Kamacite (FeNi) = 15-17
Olivine L   = 45-49 / Pyroxene = 21-25 / Kamacite (FeNi) =  06-08
Olivine LL = 56-60 / Pyroxene = 14-18 / Kamacite (FeNi) =  01-02

In words:

The amount of olivine increases, the amount of pyroxene decreases
as you go from H = L = LL.

But:

The total amount of the low-nickel kamacite decreases from H = L = LL
as more and more iron is oxidized that is: needed for the silicates.

Best wishes,

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[meteorite-list] it is an h5

2004-04-03 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!
Hi again list.I stand corrected. It is an H5 hot an L5.Also I have another
one it is in-between the 1.3 and the 0.3.The 0.3 and the 1.3 are taken so
let me know if I can send it who ever.Also If I can,I just ask that you
pay for postage.Remember I have 2 left.And they are free.

  steve

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[meteorite-list] Shergotty Thin Section and Tschermak

2004-04-03 Thread bernd . pauli
TSCHERMAK G. (1885) Die mikroskopische Beschaffenheit der Meteoriten
(Stuttgart E. Schweizerbart'sche Verlagshandlung, E. Koch, 23 pp.).

English Translation: The Microscopic Properties of Meteorites, Vol. 4,
No. 6 (Smithsonian Contributions to Astrophysics, Washington, D.C., 1964).

Translation by J.A. Wood and E.M. Wood

Figure 12 - Shergotty: eucrite

A uniform mixture of augite and maskelynite. The augite shows no foliated
structure but is sometimes twinned ... It displays no crystal outlines but fills
the space between maskelynite crystals, which are colorless and isotropic.
Most of the maskelynite is in elongated crystals, similar to feldspar. I have
earlier described these crystals as cubic; their terminations often show
right angles in section. All the light areas in figure 12 are maskelynite. The
black grains and specks are magnetite.


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[meteorite-list] Ouzina photos

2004-04-03 Thread Meteoryt.net
Hello
Someone can send me close photos of Ouzina R4 slices ?
Thanks

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[meteorite-list] thanks

2004-04-03 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!
Hi list.I want to thank the 4 people who got to the new NWA first.All I
ask is you pay for shipping.It will be $4.00 for priority shipping.Paypal
will work for me.

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Re: [meteorite-list] L, H what?

2004-04-03 Thread ROCKS ON FIRE




Hello, Bernd,

as a more or less silent observer of this list I off and on get the urge
to put a word in.

This time it is time again to thank you for your valueable contributions
to the list. It is a privilege to having you back here.
Again a wonderful explanation of a criterium which affects more or less all
of us.

Thanks again, Mate, and keep up the good work!
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  Hello Tom and List,

Yes, lab testing will probably be the only sure method to classify
a meteorite unambiguously. My NWA 984 (LL4) slice has lots of
easily visible FeNi metal specks, my Saint-Severin (LL6) has lots
of FeNi specks (large and small), my Parnallee (LL3.6) is choke-full
of metallic iron. Same thing with my Tenham (L6) or my Suizhou (L6).

So "high iron" and "low iron" does not primarily refer to the visible amount
of nickel iron in the matrix. Table 3.3 in D.W. Sears (1978) The Nature and
Origin of Meteorites (Adam Hilger Ltd, Bristol), p. 62 has some interesting
details:

Principal minerals in chondritic meteorites (wt%) for types 5 and 6:

Olivine H   = 33-37 / Pyroxene = 23-27 / Kamacite (FeNi) = 15-17
Olivine L   = 45-49 / Pyroxene = 21-25 / Kamacite (FeNi) =  06-08
Olivine LL = 56-60 / Pyroxene = 14-18 / Kamacite (FeNi) =  01-02

In words:

The amount of olivine increases, the amount of pyroxene decreases
as you go from H = L = LL.

But:

The total amount of the low-nickel kamacite decreases from H = L = LL
as more and more iron is "oxidized" that is: needed for the silicates.

Best wishes,

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[meteorite-list] Putting things in perspective

2004-04-03 Thread Ginger Mayfield

Hi all,

I've been on our list for several years but astronomy takes up most of
my *free time*.  I get the digest and try to check it at least a couple
of times a week.  Seems like I missed most of the bad stuff and that's
probably just as well.  I'm on the moderator team of a large (6000
people) yahoo group for people who take astro pics with digital cameras
so I know that sometimes things can go sour.  Unfortunately, some people
just don't play well with others!  I know most of the folks here know
how to behave on a list.  Whenever I get discouraged I always turn to
the night sky to help me put things in perspective.  Just so happens I
have a beautiful Muong Nong layered tektite which always reminds me of
the night sky when I look at it in just the right light.  I took some
pics of it today and then decided to play around a bit.  Into the *night
sky* shown on the polished face of the Muong Nong I placed a picture I
took a few weeks ago of Comet C/2002 T7.  Although there is really no
direct connection between the comet and the Muong Nong they still make a
nice composite image.  Hope you all enjoy it.

http://velatron.com/dca/ginger/muongnung_comet_t7.jpg

Here is a more normal picture of the Muong Nong

http://velatron.com/dca/ginger/muongnong01.jpg

And here is my original picture of the comet, taken 2-16-04.

http://velatron.com/dca/ginger/comet._T7_21604rework.jpg  

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Divide, CO - where it's snowing and foggy

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Re: [meteorite-list] Franconia field trip Part II

2004-04-03 Thread S. Culver
Hello List,  Those are some great looking meteorites!  I`m just chomping at 
the bit
to be able to go find one of my own.  I`m about three hours away from Franconia
and I have next Tue. off.  Would anyone be willing to give me directions on 
where
I might go looking and not get into trouble?  Any help would be greatly 
appreciated.
Thanks, Steve Culver

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Here is the link to the pictures of some of the Franconia meteorites I found.



http://www.notkin.net/sonny/franconia.htmhttp://www.notkin.net/sonny/franconia.htm 



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[meteorite-list] Meteorites country music

2004-04-03 Thread Lars Pedersen



Hello list

I had a wonderfull day eysterday :-)

I got thé most beautifull slice of a meteorite that 
I have ever seen - thanks Dean.

It is a, still unclassified, CV3.
can be seen on Deans website (and probably other 
places too)

When I was studying it more closely, I got the 
thought that it migt be paired with NWA1807.they look very similar, bot on 
the inside and on the outside.
Anyone have an oppinion on that ?

The next is OT... but I just have to tell someone 
:-)))

And later last night I was to a Country music show 
with Charlie McCoy.
Charlie is an old friend, I have known him for may 
years.
But last night he surprised me !

I was talking to one of the other artists from the 
show, Jett Williams.
Then Charlie told me she was the daughter of Hank 
Williams thé greatest songwriter that have ever lived !!!

WOW ..I was shaking hands and talking country music 
with Hank williams´s daughter ... 
It was a night (and day)I will never 
forget.

Best
Lars 


[meteorite-list] What are the odds - OT

2004-04-03 Thread John K. Gwilliam
Good Morning List,
Today is the birthday of one of our list members.  This really isn't too 
unusual except that the date is 04/04/04. (1 to 365 odds).  To add to the 
coincidence, he's also 44 years old.

Happy Birthday Keith Vazquez (who also happens to be a four-flusher;-)

BTW, anyone who wants some expert advice on using GPR for locating deep 
iron object, Keith is the go to guy.

Best,

John Gwilliam



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