[meteorite-list] New Website Updated (No really, it's better now)
Hello All, My new website has been updated and will continue to be updated through the rest of the year. If anyone read my last posting and then went to my site, I apologize for that. It was terrible! So it's all new and the links appear to all work now. New pages will be coming online shortly. They will include: A For Sale page (Already up and will be updated regularly - Go buy something!) A monthly contest (Nov 1, 2004) A seperate page wih ordering information (Thursday October 21, 2004) A monthly focus (ASAP) Links (tonight) My Personal Collection (ASAP) A trade page (ASAP - Meteorites and other items) A rocks/fossils/minerals page (ASAP - It's how I got into meteorites) Other pages will manifest over time! This site is intended to provide education for newer people and fun for everyone else. I hope it does both. I am adding a links page before morning (6am PST) so if anyone would like to have your meteorite website linked off this page, let me know and I'll get it on there. This does not include those who have already emailed me: MeteoriteArticles meteoritelabels Illinois Meteorites, LTD Impactika Rocks from Space Inc. If anyone would like to contribute (ie., write) a Monthly Focus article, email me and we'll go over it. Also, if anyone would like to donate meteorites for the contest, I need 11 pieces, I'll also include who donated them. Any donations for the contest will be used specifically for the contest only! Well, I'll do my best to bring you guys a simple and fun site, you do your best to give suggestions along the way. Oh yeah, and you can feel free to buy some stuff too! Thanks All and Be Well, CJ Lebel IMCA# 3432 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://cjsmeteorites.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture Of The Day - October 18, 2004
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Re: [meteorite-list] Chinese satellite slams apartment building
The satellite landed in our home. Maybe this means we'll have good luck this year. the tenant of the apartment, Huo Jiyu, said. All of the learned professors of logic in all of the time since Aristotle, could not have come up with a better example of a non sequitur. Francis Graham --- Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heads Up! http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2004-10/17/content_2102407.htm __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Photographing meteorites
I shopped around lately for a good and cheap digital camera to document my meteorites. My final choice was the Nikon Coolpix 3200. it has 3 megapixel (2048x1600), and you can take pictures as close as 4cm to the object. These two features together with the price (don't know for elsewhere, but here in Austria it was 199 including software, cables, rechargeable batteries and charger as well as a nice little bag for the camera) made the Nikon Coolpix my first choice. Just wanted to share my experience :-). == Just share nice photos, not experiences :) We waiting to see Your nice specimens -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of: Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Photographing meteorites
Patience is a virtue :-). I am at work, not at home, so I can't share. Just wait for the evening... _ Best regards, Bernhard Rendelius Rems CEO RPGDot Network This outgoing mail has been virus-checked. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Meteoryt.net Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 1:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Photographing meteorites I shopped around lately for a good and cheap digital camera to document my meteorites. My final choice was the Nikon Coolpix 3200. it has 3 megapixel (2048x1600), and you can take pictures as close as 4cm to the object. These two features together with the price (don't know for elsewhere, but here in Austria it was 199 including software, cables, rechargeable batteries and charger as well as a nice little bag for the camera) made the Nikon Coolpix my first choice. Just wanted to share my experience :-). == Just share nice photos, not experiences :) We waiting to see Your nice specimens -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of: Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tagounite L3
Hello Martin, list, Martin, on your site you are offering for sale a meteroite you are calling Tagounite L3. This reminds me I also purchased in due time the same meteorite (I should better say: a stone with the same name). So far, I believed this was a name invented by the nomads as Tagounite most of the time refers to the famous place (market) inMorocco where many of the NWA's are being purchased from nomads. My question: do you (or anybody else) know more (status, real type, where found, tkw...)about that famous Tagounite L3 ? Does it have now a NWA number and how is it known that it is an L3 ? I believe it is for sure not in any official nomenclature listing, nor probably on the waiting list for receiving a NWA number in future. It is just good to know that we are at least two of us having been once hooked by that name...But there could be more of us, as this meteorite is a beauty...Bernd ? Cheers, Zelimir A 15:26 17/10/04 +0200, vous avez écrit : Hola list! Finally I finished my new assortment list for sale and trade. So if you're interested in, please give me a note. I know, that for list members should be offered a discount, but if I compare my price level to that of the dealers and collectors on the famous dealer_list http://www.meteorite.com/dealer_list.htm , I could scream 30%, 40%, 60% off and I'm just to lazy to raise my prices on my list to the average niveau, only to do so. My apologies to the offerors there, to undercut them. I'm sending my lists privately to my collectors and won't put my assortment on my homepage. Anyway, the prices are not dirt cheap and finally I have no other choice: Here in Germany it's as difficult to sell meteorites as it never was before. Bad economical climate (but if I compare the situation to other countries, I have to say, that we Germans are somewhat lachrymose) and additionally the media created a kind of a movement, called avarice is cool. Consequence: The new collectors (those, who came to meteorites mainly via ebay within the last 3 years) come to me and tell me a priori in the face, that my prices are laughable high and try to haggle, although they have absolutely no idea about meteorite pricing and are neither able nor willing to compare the prices in the web. They have ebay-NWA prices in mind and can't understand, that f.e. a Lowicz is somewhat more expensive than a NWA 1882 or a Vaca Muerta. It's annoying to sit each day in front of the machine to excerpt all prices for the localities from all websites to demonstrate them, that my prices already are cheap. The other fraction, the meteorite veterans, are in some cases the opposite of delightful to me too. They still see the meteorite fan like me like a kind of a brother mason and expect, that we should give away the stuff at our own buying prices, everything else they take as a personal affront. But each day they're running to market to buy their vegetables and there they sense no dishonesty, if the seller asks multiple prices of those, which he paid each morning at the wholesale. There it's normal, there it's no rip-off. As told a typical German phenomenon. To the overseas collectors my recommendations as always: Don't be shy, it's not a big thing to order in Europe. In general it takes 7-10days until you'll have your specimens in your hands. Payment is not complicate. Paypal, checks, cash etc. I'll take back the specimen, If you won't be totally satisfied. No rip-off with the shipment costs. Sometimes I speak English and finally: Compare the prices! (In the last list, I did it already for you, but as nobody believed me - compare this time by your own). Now get the goodies, before I mutate to a Campo-Nantan-desert-crap-seller - that stuff is hefty overpaid here in Germany - but seriously: It wouldn't make fun to sell such things. Cheeers! Martin (who goes now to play with the cats, to be in a better mood soon). __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Prof. Zelimir Gabelica Université de Haute Alsace ENSCMu, Lab. GSEC, 3, Rue A. Werner, F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94 Fax: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 15 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tagounite L3
Martin, on your site you are offering for sale a meteorite you are calling Tagounite L3 ... But there could be more of us, as this meteorite is a beauty...Bernd? Sorry, the only Tagounite presently in my collection is a thin section of Tag 019, an LL3.7, with abundant chondrules, some of which are fairly large. Cheers, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Tagounite L3
Hi Zelimir, list, Uuuuh my website is very old - that's why everybody needs my email-assortment list... I don't find the time to restore my homepage (I'm sending between 3000-5000 emails per year, as the knowledge about meteorites is mere here and I try to answer each and every question, no matter if someone is interested in buying). Be sure, that I never sold pieces from that stone labelled as L3. This stone stems from the beginning of my meteorite selling carreer. It must be more than 4 years ago, when I bought it. I got it from a respected moroccain dealer, who's still supplying dealers with classified material. It was an entire stone, about 1.5kgs, so nothing to see from outside. The dealer told me, that it was found by two French hunting for artefacts in 1999 in the Tagounite region, tkw would be 3kgs and that a kind of preclassification was done and that it would be an L3. At home I cut the stone - and voila! Inside it was a weathered stinky old brown extremely equilibrated chondrite with very few chondrules. Guess L5 or 6. I tried to get it classified, for those who won slices from ebay (most below 1/g and it's certainly not more worth and of course I inserted it as unclassified, mentioning that I was told, that it would be L3, but in my opinion it must be an L5), even willing to pay for and having a loss, only to get the thing straight - but I gave it to somewhere in Poland and they didn't manage it. Here in Germany it's impossible to get an ordinnary chondrite classified, especially such an ugly one, so if someone knows a place... Cheers! Martin - Original Message - From: Zelimir Gabelica [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 3:45 PM Subject: Tagounite L3 Hello Martin, list, Martin, on your site you are offering for sale a meteroite you are calling Tagounite L3. This reminds me I also purchased in due time the same meteorite (I should better say: a stone with the same name). So far, I believed this was a name invented by the nomads as Tagounite most of the time refers to the famous place (market) inMorocco where many of the NWA's are being purchased from nomads. My question: do you (or anybody else) know more (status, real type, where found, tkw...)about that famous Tagounite L3 ? Does it have now a NWA number and how is it known that it is an L3 ? I believe it is for sure not in any official nomenclature listing, nor probably on the waiting list for receiving a NWA number in future. It is just good to know that we are at least two of us having been once hooked by that name...But there could be more of us, as this meteorite is a beauty...Bernd ? Cheers, Zelimir __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tagounite L3
Martin wrote a few minutes ago: The dealer told me that it was found by two French hunting for artefacts in 1999 in the Tagounite region, tkw would be 3kgs and that a kind of preclassification was done and that it would be an L3. As for my Tag 019 thin section, I got it from Michael Blood who wrote to the List back in November 1999: I was informed yesterday that the new meteorite I had been selling, Tagounite 019, (at first) as not yet classified - then later, with a preliminary classification of L3, has now been definitively classified as an LL with a petrological rating of 3.7. On Tuesday, 14 Dec 1999, Rob Elliott wrote to the List: Tagounite 019 has been classified as an LL3.7 though it awaits formal naming and acceptance by the Meteoritical Society. It was found by a French couple in April 1999 in Morocco. found by two French hunting for artefacts in 1999 found by a French couple in April 1999 in Morocco Comment : Hmmm?!?! Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tagounite L3
Hi Bernd and all, Does anyone know the official name then of Tag 019?? I saw it once on the list but didn't record it in my record proper. Anyone?? --AL __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tagounite H5
Hello Martin, list, Martin, on your site you are offering for sale a meteroite you are calling Tagounite L3. === You know something that I dont know :)) My question: do you (or anybody else) know more (status, real type, where found, tkw...)about that famous Tagounite L3 ? Does it have now a NWA number and how is it known that it is an L3 ? I believe it is for sure not in any official nomenclature listing, nor probably on the waiting list for receiving a NWA number in future. = I have one Tagounite, but not on any page. Its in my collection and for sure its not L3 Its beautifull, big 175g endpiece with big breccia fragments and long iron flakes. I have it described as H5 but dont know why :) Few photos here is Ali Hamni table where this meteorite was presented. Complete stone 1-2kg cut to slices. This I remember. Ofcourse its Ensisheim 06.2001 http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/tagounite1.jpg http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/tagounite2.jpg http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/tagounite3.jpg http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/tagounite4.jpg http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/tagounite5.jpg Maybe also someone on this list buy this stone ? I remember also that Mr Stehlin classify this stone (this say me Mr Hmani when I purchased it). Thats all I can say in Tagounitte dark storry. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of: Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tagounite L3
Hello Al and all, Tagounite 019 that we've been discussing is officially known as Talbachat n'ait Isfoul. Wish I knew what the English translation is ;-) Regards, Frank - Original Message - From: almitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tagounite L3 Hi Bernd and all, Does anyone know the official name then of Tag 019?? I saw it once on the list but didn't record it in my record proper. Anyone?? --AL __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tagounite L3
Looks like Camel Dung ? Matt Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com PO Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA ebay id: mhmeteorites - Original Message - From: fcressy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: almitt [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tagounite L3 Hello Al and all, Tagounite 019 that we've been discussing is officially known as Talbachat n'ait Isfoul. Wish I knew what the English translation is ;-) Regards, Frank - Original Message - From: almitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tagounite L3 Hi Bernd and all, Does anyone know the official name then of Tag 019?? I saw it once on the list but didn't record it in my record proper. Anyone?? --AL __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Deep Impact Arrives in Florida to Prepare For Launch
http://www-pao.ksc.nasa.gov/kscpao/release/2004/80-04.htm For Release: October 18, 2004 Donald Savage Headquarters, Washington D.C. (Phone: 202/358-1727) George Diller Kennedy Space Center (Phone: 321/867-2468) D.C. Agle Jet Propulsion Laboratory (Phone: 818/393-9011) KSC RELEASE NO. 80-04 DEEP IMPACT ARRIVES IN FLORIDA TO PREPARE FOR LAUNCH NASA's Deep Impact spacecraft has arrived in Florida to begin final preparations for a launch on Dec. 30, 2004. The spacecraft was shipped from Ball Aerospace Technologies in Boulder, Colo., to the Astrotech Space Operations facility located near the Kennedy Space Center. Deep Impact has begun its journey to comet Tempel 1, said Rick Grammier, Deep Impact project manager at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory. First to Florida, then to space, and then to the comet itself. It will be quite a journey and one which we can all witness together. The Deep Impact spacecraft is designed to launch a copper projectile into the surface of Comet Tempel 1 on July 4, 2005, when the comet is 83 million miles from Earth. When this 820-pound impactor hits the surface of the comet at approximately 23,000 miles per hour, the 3-by-3 foot projectile will create a crater several hundred feet in size. Deep Impact's flyby spacecraft will collect pictures and data of the event. It will send the data back to Earth through the antennas of the Deep Space Network. Professional and amateur astronomers on Earth will also be able to observe the material flying from the comet's newly formed crater, adding to the data and images collected by the Deep Impact spacecraft and other telescopes. Tempel 1 poses no threat to Earth in the foreseeable future. Today at Astrotech, Deep Impact is being removed from its shipping container, the first of the numerous milestones to prepare it for launch. Later this week, the spacecraft begins functional testing to verify its state of health after the over-the-road journey from Colorado. This will be followed by loading updated flight software and beginning a series of Mission Readiness Tests. These tests involve the entire spacecraft flight system that includes the flyby and impactor, as well as the associated science instruments and the spacecraft's basic subsystems. Next, the high gain antenna used for spacecraft communications will be installed. The solar array will then be stowed and an illumination test performed as a final check of its performance. Next, Deep Impact will be ready for fueling preparations. Once this is complete, the 2,152-pound spacecraft will be mated atop the upper stage booster, the Delta rocket's third stage. The integrated stack will be installed into a transportation canister in preparation for going to the launch pad in mid-December. Once at the pad and hoisted onto the Boeing Delta II rocket, a brief functional test will be performed to re-verify spacecraft state of health. Next will be an integrated test with the Delta II before installing the fairing around the spacecraft. Deep Impact mission scientists are confident such an intimate glimpse beneath the surface of a comet, where material and debris from the formation of the Solar System remain relatively unchanged, will answer basic questions about the formation of the Solar System and offer a better look at the nature and composition of these celestial wanderers. Launch aboard the Boeing Delta II rocket is scheduled to occur on Dec. 30, 2004 from Launch Complex 17 at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station. The launch window extends from 2:39 - 3:19 p.m. EST. The overall Deep Impact mission management for this Discovery class program is conducted by the University of Maryland, College Park, Md. Deep Impact project management is by the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif. The spacecraft has been built for NASA by Ball Aerospace and Technologies Corporation. The spacecraft/launch vehicle integration and launch countdown management are the responsibility of the Launch Services Program office headquartered at Kennedy Space Center. Photos of Deep Impact's arrival and processing can be found at the following URL. Additional photos will be added to the page as they occur. http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=126 -end- __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] the MUNICH checkpoint
Dear members, this means especially Annie Black, Dean Bessey, Mike Farmer, etc...(the overseas meteorite freaks ;)) as well as all other members who read this message and will be at the Munich show : As there was Dean's idea to party in Munich (maybe Hofbräuhaus). We (Hanno Strufe and me) suggest following: We all will have a checkpoint on friday 29th October at 12:00 hr in the front of Eric Haiderer's table, which is located in hall A4 table number 519. There we will meet all together at once and then we will decide what we do in the evening in Munich. I think Martin Altmann will have good advices where good places are in Munich and maybe he will help us getting a reservation or with the way how to get it. Martin This is an opportunity for most of us meteorite people, to meet many listees in person. Many already know each other, but there are for sure many names that will have a face then. So all who will be there, we are looking forward to meet you again or meet you for the first time in person. All the best from the Austrian-German-Connection ;) Christian and Hanno IMCA #2673 www.austromet.com Christian Anger Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re:Tagounite L3
Hello List, I bought Tagounite 019 in 1999 from the French finders. I was told it was one of several meteorites found in the Tagounite area of Morocco. Several years ago I had extra large surface thin sections made. I have 2 remaining. See this meteorite thin section with many well defined chondrules at: http://www.meteoriteusa.com/talbachat.htm Talbachat n'ait Isfoul Found April 1999 Morocco LL 3.7 45° 30' 30 N 12° 18' 30 E Best to all, John __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: the MUNICH checkpoint
Yes, please? I'll take a look in some days. I'm so broke, that I'll be able only to test two other places - or anyone, who wants to by a meteorite? My paypal address for donations for dinner tests is Anyway, as it should be located in the very city center, there is no big choice. Many rip-off places, no good beer. Unfortunately there is no other place than Hofbraeuhaus with umpah-music, it's a kind of spooky place for japaneese tourists, which travel to Germany having in mind Heine, Goethe, Beethoven, Wagner, Ludwig II. and then they are brought there to see the Australians drinking beer. Beer is good. From the beers brewed in Munich Augustiner and Hofbraeu are the best. Spaten, Hacker-Pschorr, Loewenbraeu are more for the export. Food is very bad in Hofbraeuhaus. But Dean Mike are looking like they would eat everything and we will be in Munich because we love stones and beer. Problem, reservation in Hofbraeuhaus is possible only in some separate rooms, where you can't hear the umpah-music, which is playing in the main hall, called Schwemme. don't know the translation at the moment, has the same etymology as to swim. Beer causes you to visit the restrooms frequently and in former times the male guests fear to loose their places on the tables. So they let it poor along their canes onto the floor. Meanwhile we have electricity, democracy and are living in houses. Second possibility, the Augustiner also in the central pedestial zone. Good beer, better food, no umpah music. Third is one also very centrally situated. Good beer, good food, no umpah. But crowned by an independed testing agency to have the best roasted knuckles of porc. The results of the porc-knuckle-test you'll find here: http://www.haxentest.de/ Anyway, Hofbraeuhaus is fun. Eat before, than it's cheaper and better. All tourists like it and you don't have to visit the dependance in Vegas anymore. Skol Martin - Original Message - From: Christian Anger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 7:44 PM Subject: the MUNICH checkpoint Dear members, this means especially Annie Black, Dean Bessey, Mike Farmer, etc...(the overseas meteorite freaks ;)) as well as all other members who read this message and will be at the Munich show : As there was Dean's idea to party in Munich (maybe Hofbräuhaus). We (Hanno Strufe and me) suggest following: We all will have a checkpoint on friday 29th October at 12:00 hr in the front of Eric Haiderer's table, which is located in hall A4 table number 519. There we will meet all together at once and then we will decide what we do in the evening in Munich. I think Martin Altmann will have good advices where good places are in Munich and maybe he will help us getting a reservation or with the way how to get it. Martin This is an opportunity for most of us meteorite people, to meet many listees in person. Many already know each other, but there are for sure many names that will have a face then. So all who will be there, we are looking forward to meet you again or meet you for the first time in person. All the best from the Austrian-German-Connection ;) Christian and Hanno IMCA #2673 www.austromet.com Christian Anger Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Stewart Valley
There is only one discoverer of the Stewart Valley meteorite. Subsequent to that discovery, there have been more than a dozen finders of fragments from that meteorite. Bob V. -- Original Message --- [meteorite-list] Stewart Valley Impactika at aol.com Impactika at aol.com Sun Oct 17 21:12:06 EDT 2004 . I am getting a whole bunch too, directly from one of the discoverer. Sorry Steve!!! Anne Black, Denver __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
AW: [meteorite-list] Re: the MUNICH checkpoint
I would suggest a place without umpah-music, where we can talk :-) Bernhard (der umpah-music absolut nicht gern hat) -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Martin Altmann Gesendet: Montag, 18. Oktober 2004 20:21 An: Christian Anger; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: [meteorite-list] Re: the MUNICH checkpoint Yes, please? I'll take a look in some days. I'm so broke, that I'll be able only to test two other places - or anyone, who wants to by a meteorite? My paypal address for donations for dinner tests is Anyway, as it should be located in the very city center, there is no big choice. Many rip-off places, no good beer. Unfortunately there is no other place than Hofbraeuhaus with umpah-music, it's a kind of spooky place for japaneese tourists, which travel to Germany having in mind Heine, Goethe, Beethoven, Wagner, Ludwig II. and then they are brought there to see the Australians drinking beer. Beer is good. From the beers brewed in Munich Augustiner and Hofbraeu are the best. Spaten, Hacker-Pschorr, Loewenbraeu are more for the export. Food is very bad in Hofbraeuhaus. But Dean Mike are looking like they would eat everything and we will be in Munich because we love stones and beer. Problem, reservation in Hofbraeuhaus is possible only in some separate rooms, where you can't hear the umpah-music, which is playing in the main hall, called Schwemme. don't know the translation at the moment, has the same etymology as to swim. Beer causes you to visit the restrooms frequently and in former times the male guests fear to loose their places on the tables. So they let it poor along their canes onto the floor. Meanwhile we have electricity, democracy and are living in houses. Second possibility, the Augustiner also in the central pedestial zone. Good beer, better food, no umpah music. Third is one also very centrally situated. Good beer, good food, no umpah. But crowned by an independed testing agency to have the best roasted knuckles of porc. The results of the porc-knuckle-test you'll find here: http://www.haxentest.de/ Anyway, Hofbraeuhaus is fun. Eat before, than it's cheaper and better. All tourists like it and you don't have to visit the dependance in Vegas anymore. Skol Martin - Original Message - From: Christian Anger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 7:44 PM Subject: the MUNICH checkpoint Dear members, this means especially Annie Black, Dean Bessey, Mike Farmer, etc...(the overseas meteorite freaks ;)) as well as all other members who read this message and will be at the Munich show : As there was Dean's idea to party in Munich (maybe Hofbräuhaus). We (Hanno Strufe and me) suggest following: We all will have a checkpoint on friday 29th October at 12:00 hr in the front of Eric Haiderer's table, which is located in hall A4 table number 519. There we will meet all together at once and then we will decide what we do in the evening in Munich. I think Martin Altmann will have good advices where good places are in Munich and maybe he will help us getting a reservation or with the way how to get it. Martin This is an opportunity for most of us meteorite people, to meet many listees in person. Many already know each other, but there are for sure many names that will have a face then. So all who will be there, we are looking forward to meet you again or meet you for the first time in person. All the best from the Austrian-German-Connection ;) Christian and Hanno IMCA #2673 www.austromet.com Christian Anger Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
AW: [meteorite-list] Re:Tagounite L3
The Hupes were selling Tag 019 last year, and they still sell some. I got two nice small part slices from them. Bernhard -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von John Sinclair Gesendet: Montag, 18. Oktober 2004 20:08 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: [meteorite-list] Re:Tagounite L3 Hello List, I bought Tagounite 019 in 1999 from the French finders. I was told it was one of several meteorites found in the Tagounite area of Morocco. Several years ago I had extra large surface thin sections made. I have 2 remaining. See this meteorite thin section with many well defined chondrules at: http://www.meteoriteusa.com/talbachat.htm Talbachat n'ait Isfoul Found April 1999 Morocco LL 3.7 45° 30' 30 N 12° 18' 30 E Best to all, John __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tagounite L3
John wrote: See this meteorite thin section with many well defined chondrules at: http://www.meteoriteusa.com/talbachat.htm Yes, that's what my thin section from Cap'n Blood looks like. Talbachat n'ait Isfoul Found April 1999 Morocco LL 3.7 Hmm, this would be a place close to Venice: 45° 30' 30 N 12° 18' 30 E Here are the coordinates I have for Tag 019: 29° 59 ' N / 005° 14' W This would be a place SE of Zagora. Another weird thing I just discovered: I do have Talbachat n'ait Isfoul in my databases, and my entry is as follows: Meteoritical Bulletin, No. 85, 2001, September. But: ... I can't find it in this Met.Bull. ?!?! Frank wrote: Wish I knew what the English translation is ;-) Maybe something like Ain't it cute to fool meteorite collectors?! :-)) Best regards, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tagounite L3
Hello Again, Yes! I have the wrong coordinates Bernd, You have the right ones. 29° 59 ' N / 005° 14' W Talbachat n'ait Isfoul is listed in bulletin 85 http://www.meteoriticalsociety.org/bulletin/mb85.pdf It is on Table 2. Page 14 in the PDF file. You have to read it side ways and I listed the coordinates for the next entry on the page by mistake!! A weathered fresh fall from Italy. Thanks for the correction. Best, John - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 2:54 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Tagounite L3 John wrote: See this meteorite thin section with many well defined chondrules at: http://www.meteoriteusa.com/talbachat.htm Yes, that's what my thin section from Cap'n Blood looks like. Talbachat n'ait Isfoul Found April 1999 Morocco LL 3.7 Hmm, this would be a place close to Venice: 45° 30' 30 N 12° 18' 30 E Here are the coordinates I have for Tag 019: 29° 59 ' N / 005° 14' W This would be a place SE of Zagora. Another weird thing I just discovered: I do have Talbachat n'ait Isfoul in my databases, and my entry is as follows: Meteoritical Bulletin, No. 85, 2001, September. But: ... I can't find it in this Met.Bull. ?!?! Frank wrote: Wish I knew what the English translation is ;-) Maybe something like Ain't it cute to fool meteorite collectors?! :-)) Best regards, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re-2: [meteorite-list] Tagounite L3
Talbachat n'ait Isfoul is listed in bulletin 85 http://www.meteoriticalsociety.org/bulletin/mb85.pdf It is on Table 2. Page 14 in the PDF file. Yep, got it. Thank you. A good example of what this List can also be: a powerful source of information !! Cheers, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tagounite (L3) - Tagounite 019 (LL3)
Talbachat n'ait Isfoul is listed in bulletin 85 http://www.meteoriticalsociety.org/bulletin/mb85.pdf It is on Table 2. Page 14 in the PDF file. Now, if I only knew where the decimal is documented. The Met.Bull. only describes it as an LL3. Any help ? Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] cool micrographs
Here are some cool micrographs I took last night. All images are true color, brightfield, reflected light. horizontal scale is 3.3mm. I'm not the best photomicroscopist around, so please forgive some slightly blurry images and some obvious sloppy polishing marks :) *warning* NOT dial up friendly - big pics - 1200x1600 - 250kb or so each! First a new nwa LL3.7: http://img85.exs.cx/img85/2221/chond1.jpg http://img85.exs.cx/img85/5882/chond2.jpg http://img85.exs.cx/img85/2372/chond3.jpg http://img85.exs.cx/img85/9272/chond4.jpg http://img85.exs.cx/img85/2065/chond5.jpg http://img85.exs.cx/img85/874/chond6.jpg A crystal filled vug inside a small slice of the ungrouped aconderite nwa 1839 I have for sale on ebay -an extraterrestrial geode! (I had soem depth of focus problems with the pics, I will try to shoot them again with a LWD objective and post more images): http://img85.exs.cx/img85/5427/vug2.jpg http://img85.exs.cx/img85/3957/vug3.jpg http://img85.exs.cx/img85/8791/vug4.jpg And some general shots of NWA 1839 - if I croped the pics so that they didnt look like microscope shots you might confuse this stuff for a pallesite, dont ya think?: http://img85.exs.cx/img85/8832/achond1.jpg http://img85.exs.cx/img85/2682/achond2.jpg http://img85.exs.cx/img85/9482/achond4.jpg http://img85.exs.cx/img85/8853/achond5.jpg http://img85.exs.cx/img85/9118/achond6.jpg http://img85.exs.cx/img85/6606/acond8.jpg I have images of a few other interesting micrographs that I'll probably post tomorrow or the next day.. _ Get ready for school! Find articles, homework help and more in the Back to School Guide! http://special.msn.com/network/04backtoschool.armx __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Falls in Berthoud, Colorado
http://www.coloradoan.com/news/stories/20041018/news/1433541.html Celebrity falls from the sky Meteorite shines instant spotlight on Berthoud family By SARA REED The Coloradoan October 18, 2004 THE LANDING SITE: John Whiteis moves a board to reveal a small crater left after a meteorite landed outside their home on Oct. 5. Whiteis, his wife, Megan, left, and her son Casper witnessed the meteorite fall from the sky, and the onslaught of attention that followed. Photo Rich Abrahamson/The Coloradoan TWO-POUND METEORITE: Scott Palo, an assistant professor with the University of Colorado's aerospace engineering sciences department, holds a two-pound meteorite as volunteers and researchers comb a field near where the meteorite landed outside a farm house just east of Berthoud along Highway 56. The search was held Saturday. Until recently, the oldest antique John and Megan Whiteis owned was an 18th-century medicine chest from Korea. Now they have something much older. On Oct. 5, a two-pound, 4.5 billion-year-old meteorite slammed into the earth in a horse pasture behind the Whiteis' five-level Berthoud farmhouse. Now, after nearly two weeks, the Whiteis' life is still turned a bit upside-down by the softball-sized chunk of space debris. Neither of us has been to work in two weeks, Megan Whiteis said. It's been really crazy. John Whiteis said they've been getting a lot of attention and the phone has been ringing off the hook since they found the meteorite. Megan Whiteis said she spends a lot of her day on the phone trying to figure out where the meteorite will be sent for testing and talking to researchers, press and people interested in buying the meteorite -- something the Whiteises said is out of the question. Despite the disruption it has caused in their day-to-day lives and their desire to get back to some kind of routine, the Whiteises said they wouldn't change anything. I'm still really glad it happened, Megan Whiteis said. But I'll be glad when the media attention dies down. This is definitely a first, and my thought is that it's going to be the last. John Whiteis said he jokingly refers to the meteorite as space gold and even thought about composing a song about it similar to the Beverly Hillbillies theme. I'm thinking about getting my shovel and digging down in that crater as far as I can, he said. Maybe it (the crater) is the marker for the fountain of youth. Maybe they're not that lucky, but the Whiteises said they're real lucky they saw the meteorite land. John and Megan Whiteis, along with her 19-year-old son, Casper, were walking out to the car on Oct. 5 when they heard a whooshing sound and saw a flash travel across the sky. She said it was unusual that all three of them were together at the same time and all going the same direction through the door. John Whiteis said it was perfectly quiet outside, which was unusual considering the house sits just off a state highway and is in a regularly used airplane flight pattern. We have planes going over every 15 minutes or so, he said. He said he originally thought the debris had come loose from a passing airplane, but there wasn't one in the sky. Scientists think the Whiteis' meteorite might be part of a larger one that broke up in the Earth's atmosphere. Saturday, about 50 volunteers and researchers combed a 11/2-square mile cornfield across the highway from the Whiteis' house for other pieces. Scott Palo, an assistant professor with the aerospace engineering sciences department at the University of Colorado, said the meteorite is only the fifth in Colorado's history to be witnessed and retrieved. Palo said it was an exciting find not only because it has happened so rarely in the state, but also because it was retrieved so quickly -- only about 25 minutes after impact. He said the quick recovery would allow scientists to do tests they might otherwise not be able to do that will give them a better indication of where the meteorite originated. Scientists think it might have broken off Vesta, a large asteroid in the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter. All scientific significance aside, Palo said it's a very exciting event. It's awesome, he said. This is the material that formed the solar system and our own planet. It's like a time machine. It lets us see back to the creation of the solar system. Jack Murphy, curator emeritus of the Denver Museum of Nature and Science, participated in Saturday's search and said he had a feeling they'd find more pieces of the meteorite. However, the search did not yield any results. We walked and walked and walked and walked, he said. And it felt like we barely scratched the surface. Palo said there will be more searches during the next couple of weeks, up until the snow starts to fly. According to Palo, Fiske Planetarium at CU will coordinate future search efforts. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net
[meteorite-list] Idea for Book of Meteorites Showing Comparison Photos of Types
Dear List, If anyone has the resources to make a book with petrographic-slide size photos showing cut and polished examples at the same scale of all available types of meteorites. I think it would be very useful to show their variation and for comparison . For example, pages of several examples of H, L, etc. taken under a standard light source and high color quality control. Anyone have any input? Thank you. Dirk Ross..Tokyo...Planetary Data I could assist with inexpensive high quality printing, quality control and editing. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Chinese satellite slams apartment building
Well at least they had the switches DRAWN correctly on the schematics and they did not need to worry about Metric or English mearsurements. Now they need to work on accuracy. At this rate they may never be able to HIT the moon. Mark M. Phoenix - Original Message - From: Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 11:16 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Chinese satellite slams apartment building Heads Up! http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2004-10/17/content_2102407.htm __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] trade offer
Steve, I'm a bit confused. Below you posted the following to the list: Hello list.I have a monumental trade offer to offer.I am willing to trade my 18.9 gram slice of CAT MOUNTAIN,with a signed copy from BOB HAAG,specimen card for a bunch of meteorites.It is a $2500.00 value.I always believe it is easier to make a trade, than to sell.It seems people are just not willing to part with there money.Oh well!Let me know if you want to make this trade.It will also come with a riker box also.I am looking for anything,except CAMPO and NANTANS. STEVE ARNOLD, CHICAGO However, on you website under The Showroom!! you have posted the following: Coming soon to the showroom?18.89 gram slice of CAT MOUNTAIN IMB L5 Meteorite.It is coming back home to stay forever.Oh yeah! What happened??? Inquiring minds want to know. Cheers, Frank __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Re: the MUNICH checkpoint
In a message dated 10/18/2004 12:51:58 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would suggest a place without umpah-music, where we can talk :-) Bernhard (der umpah-music absolut nicht gern hat) -- I agree with Bernhard. I choose Conversation over Umpah! And Christian's meeting idea is fine with me. I will be at Alain Carion's table friday morning, he will probably know which direction Erich's is. See you all soon. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMCA #2356, www.IMCA.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] the MUNICH checkpoint
Someone needs to come to my table, I will be there alone, I cant just up and leave it. I will be with Hans Koser, but need to take care of my own stuff and sales. I look forward to seeing everyone there. Mike - Original Message - From: Christian Anger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 10:44 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] the MUNICH checkpoint Dear members, this means especially Annie Black, Dean Bessey, Mike Farmer, etc...(the overseas meteorite freaks ;)) as well as all other members who read this message and will be at the Munich show : As there was Dean's idea to party in Munich (maybe Hofbräuhaus). We (Hanno Strufe and me) suggest following: We all will have a checkpoint on friday 29th October at 12:00 hr in the front of Eric Haiderer's table, which is located in hall A4 table number 519. There we will meet all together at once and then we will decide what we do in the evening in Munich. I think Martin Altmann will have good advices where good places are in Munich and maybe he will help us getting a reservation or with the way how to get it. Martin This is an opportunity for most of us meteorite people, to meet many listees in person. Many already know each other, but there are for sure many names that will have a face then. So all who will be there, we are looking forward to meet you again or meet you for the first time in person. All the best from the Austrian-German-Connection ;) Christian and Hanno IMCA #2673 www.austromet.com Christian Anger Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture Of The Day - October 19, 2004
ROCKS FROM SPACE PICTURE OF THE DAY: http://www.geocities.com/spacerocksinc/Oct_19.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Who, Friday evening MUNICH
O.k. for reservations I have to know how many we will be in the Friday evening. (and who needs umpah - and who not. I mean most stay the whole weekend so Saturday is also good for Hofbraeuhaus.) Please give me a mail as fast as possible (and I'll try to check it with Jimmy Buffet). Martin - Original Message - From: Bernhard Rems [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Martin Altmann' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 8:38 PM Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] Re: the MUNICH checkpoint I would suggest a place without umpah-music, where we can talk :-) Bernhard (der umpah-music absolut nicht gern hat) __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD-Some Pieces For Sale
Please have a look here. I am selling some micsellaneous items. Pictures on request. http://www.mhmeteorites.com/collection_pieces.htm Thanks. Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA eBay user id: mhmeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: the MUNICH checkpoint
But this was 90 years ago. Nowadays canes aren't en vogue anymore.. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Altmann Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 7:27 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: the MUNICH checkpoint Hello Martin and all, Beer causes you to visit the restrooms frequently and in former times the male guests fear to loose their places on the tables. So they let it poor along their canes onto the floor I've been in some pretty rough dives but that made my hair stand up! Best regards, Bill __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
