RE: [meteorite-list] etching irons with ferric chloride solutionfrom radio shack
Hi Bob, Well to be honest I just shove a few table spoonfuls into a pint of distilled water, (i.e. unchlorinated water) and stir. The best stuff to use really though, is 'Sodium Hydroxide', which is sold in hardware stores to unblock drains etc. otherwise known as caustic soda, (at least here in the UK..) this can be added to industrial alcohol, (it will dissolve but it takes hours!) or you could use sodium hydroxide with water, but you must dry the specimen well, in a warm place for a number of hours then coat the iron in plenty of gun oil, (which contains a rust inhibitor). It's not perfect, but it works, etching anything is a destructive process. Best Mark -Original Message- From: Bob King [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 2:01 AM To: mark ford Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] etching irons with ferric chloride solutionfrom radio shack Hi Mark, I plan on doing some etching with ferric chloride and have read your postings with interest. Tell me though, how do you prepare the sodium bicarbonate solution? Thanks! Bob Subject:RE: [meteorite-list] etching irons with ferric chloride solutionfromradio shack Date sent: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:32:09 - From: mark ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Ferric Chloride has been used for many years for etching meteorites. (I personally etched a small Canyon Diablo in about 1985 and it has never shown any signs of rust). Iv'e even etched campos in Ferric, and they are fine too. You must neutralize the iron after etching however, in Sodium hydroxide solution (caustic soda) or Sodium bicarbonate soln.) It is important to clean the meteorite and remove all traces of etchant. And etch as quickly as possible (I.E concentrated and warm) so that the solution doesn't have time to penetrate into the meteorite. Nitric acid is used for etching as well, this has it's own problems with stability, In either case, as long as you take care to neutralize it, then It should give no problems. Personally I have found Ferric Chloride to give a far better quality of etch, even under mag it is noticeable. Best Mark -Original Message- From: Göran Axelsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 11:17 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] etching irons with ferric chloride solutionfrom radio shack I thought that the general idea was chlorine and iron makes rusting meteorites. I wouldn't use it myself. I used some to etch circuit boards in my youth and if you drop some grains of iron chloride it will pull moisture from the air until it's completely dissolved. If you dip an iron into FeCl solution it will be drawn into dry fractures and surfaces and to get it out without electrolysis is probably really slow work. Am I wrong in my speculations? Anyone tested this already? I use the alcohol and nitric acid etch. Not only because I have it handy, but also to avoid chlorine contaminations. /Göran harlan trammell wrote: i thought i'd try it on a cheap iron- anybody got any pointers on swabbing, rinsing , waiting, etc.?! i will be gradually switching over to yahoo mail (it has 100 FREE megs of storage). please cc to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Next Weeks Show Weather
Dear Luckydogs headed for Tucson; Here is the National Weather Service forecast for precipation for the next week: Looking Ahead: During the next 5 days (January 27 - 31), a pair of Pacific storm systems will affect much of the southern half of the United States. Heavy rain will briefly return to southern California, where some flash flooding is possible before precipitation tapers to showers by week's end. Precipitation will also overspread the Great Basin and the Southwest, providing additional drought relief but bringing the possibility of flash flooding. During the weekend (January 29-30), locally heavy showers are expected to reach the southern Atlantic States. Meanwhile on the Plains, late-week precipitation may total one-half inch or more as far north as southern and eastern Nebraska. However, unfavorably dry conditions will prevail across northern portions of the Rockies and Plains. In the Northwest, only light precipitation is expected east of the Cascades. The NWS 6- to 10-day outlook for February 1-5 calls for warmer- and drier-than-normal weather to persist in the Northwest. Mild, mostly dry conditions are also expected across the northern Plains and Upper Midwest. In contrast, wetter-than-normal conditions are likely from the southern Rockies eastward to the southern Atlantic Coast. Bring umbrella! Best, Dave F. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Bologna Mineral Show 2005
Hello In the days 11-12-13 March 2005 the biggest Mineral Show in Italy its open. In the day 12 March there it will be a meeting of meteorites and meteors fascinated - like to Ensisheim, Munich etc. ... For who is interested all informations on Mineral show its in the menu of my sale site www.mcomemeteorite.it Matteo _ Ricerche online più semplici e veloci con MSN Toolbar! http://toolbar.msn.it/ è GRATIS! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - January 28, 2005 (Part II)
and who confirm its a lunar? You have analyzed in 1 week? I have seen similar rocks from moroccan people, I have take one and its exit from the analysis its terrestrial fossil organic material with rocks inclusions.. Matteo From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - January 28,2005 (Part II) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 22:48:01 -0700 Hi everyone, the Gem show is jumping, and good stuff al over the place. My room will be open 100% on Saturday, should be about 80% tomorrow, but alot to do so I am a little stretched. As you all saw, the Pic of the day was the suspected new Lunar meteorite that I found in Oman last week. It is a spectacular specimen, not likely paired with any other Oman Lunars since it was found a little far away from any of them. If it is a Lunar, and all of the people who have seen it suspect that it is, then it will be a strange one, clast supported, little matrix at all and alot of melt. We will know for certain soon enough. Michael Farmer - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 1:58 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - January 28,2005 (Part II) http://www.geocities.com/spacerocksinc/January28.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Personalizza MSN Messenger con sfondi e fotografie! http://www.ilovemessenger.msn.it/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Mike's new find from Oman
yes, the same for me. Matteo From: Beda Hofmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Mike's new find from Oman Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:37:07 +0100 Hi list Maybe this is nasty, but to me Mike's Oman rock looks like a terrestrial fine-grained sedimentary conglomerate. Rocks of this type are not uncommon in the Oman desert. Beda -- * Dr. Beda Anton Hofmann Curator, Earth Science Department Bern Natural History Museum Bernastrasse 15 CH-3005 Bern, Switzerland Phone +41 31 350 72 40 FAX+41 31 350 74 99 e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nmbe.ch/ * __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ 250MB per la tua casella di posta http://www.msn.it/hotmail/minisite_10 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mike's new find from Oman
Beda, except that it has numerous fine metal grains throughout. Something a terrestrial would not have. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Beda Hofmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 12:37 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Mike's new find from Oman Hi list Maybe this is nasty, but to me Mike's Oman rock looks like a terrestrial fine-grained sedimentary conglomerate. Rocks of this type are not uncommon in the Oman desert. Beda -- * Dr. Beda Anton Hofmann Curator, Earth Science Department Bern Natural History Museum Bernastrasse 15 CH-3005 Bern, Switzerland Phone +41 31 350 72 40 FAX+41 31 350 74 99 e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nmbe.ch/ * __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - January 28, 2005 (Part II)
Perhaps you should read the emails again, or get a better translator. There is no confirmation yet. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: McomeMeteorite Meteorite [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 3:52 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - January 28,2005 (Part II) and who confirm its a lunar? You have analyzed in 1 week? I have seen similar rocks from moroccan people, I have take one and its exit from the analysis its terrestrial fossil organic material with rocks inclusions.. Matteo From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - January 28,2005 (Part II) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 22:48:01 -0700 Hi everyone, the Gem show is jumping, and good stuff al over the place. My room will be open 100% on Saturday, should be about 80% tomorrow, but alot to do so I am a little stretched. As you all saw, the Pic of the day was the suspected new Lunar meteorite that I found in Oman last week. It is a spectacular specimen, not likely paired with any other Oman Lunars since it was found a little far away from any of them. If it is a Lunar, and all of the people who have seen it suspect that it is, then it will be a strange one, clast supported, little matrix at all and alot of melt. We will know for certain soon enough. Michael Farmer - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 1:58 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - January 28,2005 (Part II) http://www.geocities.com/spacerocksinc/January28.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Personalizza MSN Messenger con sfondi e fotografie! http://www.ilovemessenger.msn.it/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fractal Etch In New East African Iron
John and Dawn: Thanks for sharing that amazing photo with us. Although I have never seen this structure in a meteorite, this type of fractal is quite common in nature and the physical world. Typically these patterns can be generated with a simple formula, called the Mandelbrot Set, by the expression: Z = Z (2/n) + C (n+1) Any search engine will yield numerous sites dedicated to the Mandelbrot Set. In fact PBS did a special on it with Arthur Clarke as the host, a few years ago. Seemingly unrelated phenomenon such as tree patterns, animal structures, and the patterns one gets when applying pressure to your closed eyes can be described by this formula and its iterations. If you decide to do a search on the net for Mandelbrot, be prepared to spend an hour or so being amazed ,it's that addictive!. George __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mike's new find from Oman
metal grains in a lunar meteorite? When? Matteo From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Beda Hofmann [EMAIL PROTECTED],meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mike's new find from Oman Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 05:51:53 -0700 Beda, except that it has numerous fine metal grains throughout. Something a terrestrial would not have. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Beda Hofmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 12:37 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Mike's new find from Oman Hi list Maybe this is nasty, but to me Mike's Oman rock looks like a terrestrial fine-grained sedimentary conglomerate. Rocks of this type are not uncommon in the Oman desert. Beda -- * Dr. Beda Anton Hofmann Curator, Earth Science Department Bern Natural History Museum Bernastrasse 15 CH-3005 Bern, Switzerland Phone +41 31 350 72 40 FAX+41 31 350 74 99 e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nmbe.ch/ * __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Scopri il nuovo MSN Htomail - 10MB di allegati http://www.msn.it/hotmail/minisite_10 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Metal in Mike's new find from Oman
Hello Matteo, Mike, Beda, Rob, and List, metal grains in a lunar meteorite? As much as I would have liked to chime in and say: ... but several eucrites and some howardites do! Look at these examples: DaG 262 - contains metal particles (5-26 wt% Ni) DaG 400 - abundant metal of primitive meteoritic heritage DaG 996 - FeNi metal present as minor phase Dhofar 025, 026, 081 - FeNi metal as an accessory mineral Dhofar 280, 287, 302 - FeNi metal as an accessory mineral NWA 032, 773 - traces of metal SaU 169 - metallic iron is present etc., etc., etc. ... So I guess we can still keep our fingers crossed for Mike's new find from Oman being another spectacular lunar visitor here on Planet Earth! Best wishes for a nice and happy weekend, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Auction Update
Howdy Folks, DNA Dave brings up an interesting point in his request for a large stone in Michael Bloods Tucson Auction. As the largest single contributor of non-NWA pieces in Michaels auction, I put considerable thought and effort into both what I would offer and the reserve price if any placed on the piece. My choices were based upon the belief that the auction format works best when material is offered that cannot be readily acquired from other sources. Large unclassified stones are, for meteorites anyway, somewhat common with one Canadian dealer recently offering Humongous pieces at rather low prices. While the largest piece I have in Michaels auction is only 272g, I did try to include a variety of pieces covering many of the collecting threads pursued by those who fancy meteorites. Here are some statistics for the 38 pieces I have in Michaels auction: 10 Witnessed falls 11 Specimens with notable collection numbers and/or labels 6 pieces with Nininger numbers 2 E ucrites 2 Howardites 1 Diogenite 1 Ureilite 2 Mesosiderites 4 irons 1 Silicated anomalous iron 1 Enstatite chondrite 3 Carbonaceous chondrites including two type 3.0 specimens! 21 Ordinary chondrites including an LL4 fall 2 stones with a total known weight of ~200g or less 5 Other stones with at TKW of 5kg or less 1 Historic Nininger Star 7 Pieces that fell or were found in the 1800s 2 Pieces that fell or were found in the 1700s 14 Pieces with no reserve $50 is the lowest reserve $7000 the highest reserve 6 Specimens are half or complete individuals 4 Specimens are end sections 4 Specimens are fragments 22 Specimens are complete or partial slices So in a nutshell, while I cannot please everyone, I did make a conscious effort to please as many people as I possible. It is my hope that the rarity of most of these pieces will be recognized before or during the auction instead of after. Often when I review old auction outcomes whether the King Auction or Darryls auctions, I kic k myself saying, What was I thinking? I cannot believe I let that piece go! Cheers, Martin - Original Message - From: DNAndrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, January 28, 2005 1:11 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Auction Update (AD) ) I am surprised I don't have a good many more. I will be leaving Monday, so, absentee bids will be accepted up to midnight Sunday, Jan. 30th. Michael, I'll be there and will have more money than I usually have to indulge in. What I notice this year, is there is nothing BIG. No big stones, no big irons, just little piddly rare stuff...eucrites, howardites, achondrites, luanites,etc. I am looking for a BIG meteoriteunclassifiedclassifiedI don't care. Like the one I scarfed last year...very nice. I want something I can display to non-meteorite folk and have them go WOW! So, if there are some late seller with some decent sized stones or iro ns...let them in please! Maybe that HB oriented piece looks good to me, but I'm sure I'll get outbid on that one. Sorry to bitch, Dave __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Pluto Hit By Twin to Create Moon, Study Suggests
One question Ron, the Barry Centre of most satellites are below the surface of its parent planet, like the barry centre of our satellite - moon is below the surface of earth. However the same is not true in case of Charon and Pluto. Here the barry centre is several meters above the surface of Pluto. Manoj --- Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/pluto_formation_050127.html Pluto Hit By Twin to Create Moon, Study Suggests By Robert Roy Britt space.com 27 January 2005 Pluto might have been hit long ago by a virtual twin in a collision that created the ninth planet's moon Charon, according to a new computer simulation. An animation of the suspected impact is available here http://www.swri.org/press/plutocharon.htm. __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? http://my.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - January 28, 2005 (...
In a message dated 1/28/2005 5:53:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: and who confirm its a lunar? You have analyzed in 1 week? I have seen similar rocks from moroccan people, I have take one and its exit from the analysis its terrestrial fossil organic material with rocks inclusions.. Matteo I clearly stated in the picture post description that it's a Probable Lunar! Not a confirmed Lunar! Regards, Michael Johnson SPACE ROCKS, INC. 932 Hanging Rock Road Boiling Springs, South Carolina 29316-7401 USA Tel: (864) 578-5188 SPACE ROCKS, INC.: http://www.geocities.com/spacerocksinc/spacerocksinc.html ROCKS FROM SPACE PICTURE OF THE DAY: http://www.geocities.com/spacerocksinc/Calendar.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Pluto-Charon Origin May Mirror that of Earth and Its Moon
http://www.swri.org/9what/releases/2005/Pluto.htm SwRI scientist: Pluto-Charon origin may mirror that of Earth and its Moon Southwest Research Institute (SwRI) News Release January 27, 2005 Boulder, Colo. - The evolution of Kuiper Belt objects, Pluto and its lone moon Charon may have something in common with Earth and our single Moon: a giant impact in the distant past. Dr. Robin Canup, assistant director of Southwest Research Institute's® (SwRI) Department of Space Studies, argues for such an origin for the Pluto-Charon pair in an article for the January 28 issue of the journal Science. Canup, who currently is a visiting professor at the California Institute of Technology, has worked extensively on a similar giant collision scenario to explain the Moon's origin. In both the Earth-Moon and Pluto-Charon cases, Canup's smooth particle hydrodynamic simulations depict an origin in which a large, oblique collision with the growing planet produced its satellite and provided the current planet-moon system with its angular momentum. While the Moon has only about 1 percent of the mass of Earth, Charon accounts for a much larger 10 to 15 percent of Pluto's total mass. Canup's simulations suggest that a proportionally much larger impactor - one nearly as large as Pluto itself - was responsible for Charon, and that the satellite likely formed intact as a direct result of the collision. According to Canup, a collision in the early Kuiper Belt - a disk of comet-like objects orbiting in the outer solar system beyond Neptune - could have given rise to a planet and satellite with relative sizes and angular rotation characteristics consistent with those of the Pluto-Charon pair. The colliding objects would have been about 1,600 to 2,000 kilometers in diameter, or each about half the size of the Earth's Moon. This work suggests that despite their many differences, our Earth and the tiny, distant Pluto may share a key element in their formation histories. This provides further support for the emerging view that stochastic impact events may have played an important role in shaping final planetary properties in the early solar system, said Canup. The giant impact theory was first proposed in the mid-1970s to explain how the Moon formed, and a similar mode of origin was suggested for Pluto and Charon in the early 1980s. Canup's simulations are the first to successfully model such an event for the Pluto-Charon pair. Simulations published by Canup and a colleague in Nature in 2001 showed that a single impact by a Mars-sized object in the late stages of Earth's formation could account for the iron-depleted Moon and the masses and angular momentum of the Earth-Moon system. This was the first model to simultaneously explain these characteristics without requiring that the Earth-Moon system be substantially modified after the lunar forming impact. This research was supported by the National Science Foundation under grant no. AST0307933. Editors: An animation of a simulation of a potential Pluto-Charon forming collision can be downloaded from http://www.swri.org/press/2005/plutocharon.htm. For more information, contact Joe Fohn ([EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Communications Department, at (210) 522-4630, Southwest Research Institute, PO Drawer 28510, San Antonio, TX 78228-0510. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images - January 24-28, 2005
MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES January 24-28, 2005 o Ice Surfaces In False Color (Released 24 January 2005) http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20050124a.html o Polar Layers in False Color (Released 25 January 2005) http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20050125a.html o Dusty Crater In False Color (Released 26 January 2005) http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20050126a.html o Sand Sea in False Color (Released 27 January 2005) http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20050127a.html o A Frosty Rim In False Color (Released 28 January 2005) http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20050128a.html All of the THEMIS images are archived here: http://themis.la.asu.edu/latest.html NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University, Tempe, in collaboration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NASA Hosts Lunar and Martian Exploration Workshop
01.28.05 Tracy Young Kennedy Space Center, Fla. 321/867-2468 RELEASE: 10-05 NASA HOSTS LUNAR AND MARTIAN EXPLORATION WORKSHOP NASA's future exploration of the Moon, Mars and beyond will involve utilizing natural resources at the many destinations. To gain a better understanding of the properties and behaviors of lunar and martian environments, NASA's Kennedy Space Center is hosting the Granular Materials in Lunar and Martian Exploration workshop Feb. 2 and 3 at the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex. Presenters are available to meet with the news media at 5 p.m. Feb. 2. Media may also arrange to attend individual workshop sessions. Scientists, engineers, researchers and mission managers from throughout the nation will join together to identify key challenges and the research and technologies needed to further the Vision for Space Exploration. Returning the Space Shuttle to flight, and completing the International Space Station, are the first steps in the Vision for Space Exploration, an affordable, stepping-stone strategy toward new exploration goals. Using the Station to study human endurance in space and to test new technologies and techniques, NASA will prepare for the longer journeys to the Moon, Mars and beyond. Media interested in participating should contact Tracy Young at 321/867-2468 or by e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] by Feb. 1. For more information about the workshop on the Internet, visit: http://weboflife.nasa.gov/regolith.htm For more information about NASA and Agency programs on the Internet, visit: http://www.nasa.gov -end- __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Pre Tucson Sale
Hello all- Trying to put together some extra cash for Tucson. Feel free to make an offer on anything on the Nakhla Dog Meteorites Website http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com Rob Wesel http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fw: METEORITE BOOK SALE
- Original Message - From: Michael Cottingham To: Michael Cottingham Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 4:28 PM Subject: METEORITE BOOK SALE Hello, I am offering a few books tonight. Paypal is preferred. I will pay shipping to all Locations in The US and Canada. Paypal address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Best Wishes Michael Cottingham 1. LUNAR AND PLANETARY SCIENCE XVII, Part 1 and Part 2, 1014 Pages, 2 Volumes. Softcover. !! An Amazing collection of Abstracts and Papers submitted to the Seventeenth Lunar and Planetary Science Conference. A great resource for those who have lunar, martian or Achondrites in their collection. Very Good + Condition. $55.00 2. LUNAR AND PLANETARY SCIENCE XVIII, Part 1 and Part 2, 769 Pages, 2 Volumes. Softcover, !!! An Amazing collection of Abstracts and Papers submitted to the Seventeenth Lunar and Planetary Science Conference. A great resource for those who have lunar, martian or Achondrites in their collection. Very Good + Condition. $55.00 3. LUNAR AND PLANETARY SCIENCE XXV, Part 1, 2, and 3, 1579 Pages, 3 Volumes. Softcover, An Amazing collection of Abstracts and Papers submitted to the Seventeenth Lunar and Planetary Science Conference. A great resource for those who have lunar, martian or Achondrites in their collection. $75.00 4. THE TWO COLOMBIAN IRON METEORITES, SANTA ROSA AND TOCAVITA. By V.F. Buchwald John T. Wasson. ~40 pages, with Many Photos, 1968. Very Good Condition + , A very Rare Booklet. $35.00 5. SOUTHWEST METEORITE COLLECTION A Pictorial Collection, Marvin Kilgore, 201 pages, Harcover. Signed. An incredible Collection of Photographs and Information on the Kilgore Collection. A must have! Near Fine Condition. $75.00 6.. FIELD AND LABORATORY INVESTIGATIONS OF METEORITES FROM VICTORIA LAND AND THIEL MOUNTAINS REGION, ANTARCTICA, 1982-1983 and 1983-1984, By U. Marvin and G. Macpherson. 146 Pages. Softcover. Another great one in this series. Many photos of some real cool looking meteorites!Near Fine Condition. $65.00 7. THE METEORITE TEKTITE COLLECTOR's HANDBOOK, P. Bagnall. 160 pages. Hardcover. A great resource for Collecting Meteorites. Lots of Photos and information. Near Fine condition. $25.00 8. THE SEARCH FOR OUR BEGINNING, R. Hutchison. 164 pages. Harcover. Another great book on Meteorites with lots of Photos and illustrations. Has dust jacket and is in near fine condition. $25.00 9. ODESSA GLORIETA METEORITES. Reprint From Contributions Of The Meteoritical Society, Popular Astronomy, Vol LIX, No. 3 March, 1951. 6 pages. Very Good Condition. A rare little work on two important Meteorites. Photos, Author is Lincoln Lapaz. $15.00 10. THE PASAMONTE, NEW MEXICO METEORITE, By H. H. Nininger. A very RARE Reprint and highly sought after. 5 pages, Photos, Map, and in Very Good Condition. $30.00 11. STEINE DES HIMMELS METEORITE, By Jochen Schluter, 120 Pages, Softcover. This is a cool work on Meteorites in German. Well done and with great color photos. There are photos of very seldom seen meteorites. A must have if you collect meteorite books! Fine Condition. $20.00 12. THE HUSS COLLECTION OF METEORITES, 58 Pages, Softcover. A Fine copy of an important collection. Some photos. This is a must have research tool if you collect American Meteorite Laboratory Meteorites. A great dream listing of specimens. $20.00 13. THE SECOND HUSS COLLECTION OF METEORITES, 30 Pages, Softcover. A Fine copy of The Huss Collection...the second copy of another important Meteorite Collection. $20.00 14. OUT OF THE SKY An Introduction To Meteoritics, H.H. NININGER, 336 pages, Hardcover (1952) 1st Edition. X-library Copy. Good + Condition. This is a hard copy to get in a 1st edition. This copy is tight and solid. Numerous photos, maps, and information and stories that ONLY H. H. Nininger could tell! $65.00 15. STONES FROM THE STARS, The Unsolved Mysteries of Meteorites. T.R. LeMaire. 185 pages. Hardcover. Near Fine Condition with dust jacket. Small tear on dust jacket. Another must have and obscure work on Meteorites. Contains some stories that I have seen no where else. $35.00 16. THE METEORITE CRATERS, Willy Ley, 135 pages, Harcover. 1968, 1st edition, X-lib, but in Very Good + Condition with Dust Jacket. A very classic book on Meteorite Craters and is very hard to come by! $35.00 17. MAN AND METEORITES, Brian Pejovic, 119 pages, Hardcover, Signed. 1982, 1st edition. Near Fine Condition with Dust Jacket. Yet another important work on Meteorites and if you don't have it in your collection you should! In my experience all meteorite books are hard to come by and ALL of them add something to your understanding of this field. $30.00 18. BETWEEN THE PLANETS, Fletcher G. Watson, 200 pages, Hardcover. 1st Revised Edition. Very Good Copy with Dust Jacket. Covers a lot and has photos and illustrations. $25.00 19. MINERALS IN THIN SECTION, By Perkins Henke, 123 pages, Softcover. For those
[meteorite-list] my tucson info
Good evening list.I just want to update everyone who will be in tucson upon my arrival.I get in at 2:45 on feb. 2 thru the 6th.I'll be staying in oro valley with bob c. and mexico doug.I'll bring my remaining campos sales stones with me forsale and a few other goodies for trade or sale.I look forward to seeing all my old friends and am really looking forward to meeting new people this year.As this is my 3rd time coming, I am really excited this year.It will be alot of fun.I will make this an annual trek just to be among all the great people of our hobby.I'll have my cell phone with me if you want to get in touch with me.Well that is it.I already have 2 new meteorites waiting for me.A 27 gram slice of esquel and a 225 gram slice of wickenburg.Not bad considering I have not even left yet.I will be looking for alot more goodies this year.You all have a great weekend and I'll see you all in tucson. steve arnold, chicago = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Current Tucson temp.
60 degrees F CLEAR and Calm. 7:33 MST df __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Question re 40% off ALL ...... Ebay !
Terrific. wonder why it doesn't say that. Michael on 1/28/05 7:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael, Its legit. Heres a link to the house on Winslow that was impacted. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/spacerox2001/detail?.dir=f328.dnm=a244.jpg Thats where the specimen in question came from. Bob E -- Original message -- Hay Michael, I was looking at the Park Forest specimen - item # 2292150314. It states, Included, is also a piece of siding from the house impact site. However, while this statement implies this is siding from a house this particular meteorite struck, it does not specifically state that this meteorite struck this house. Please clarify: did it strike the house or is this one of those cleverly worded advertising things where you can't really be prosecuted for false advertising because the exact wording is only misleading? RSVP Thanks, Michael Blood on 1/28/05 5:02 PM, Michael Cottingham at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Michael Cottingham To: Michael Cottingham Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 6:01 PM Subject: 40% off ALL BUY IT NOW ITEMS at Ebay ! Hello Everyone, Tonight I am offering 40% Off ALL of My Ebay Items in My Ebay Store. Use the Buy it Now feature. Go to: http://www.stores.ebay.com/voyagebotanicanaturalhistory Use the Buy it now feature...Pay through paypal and deduct 40% off. You will have to do a manual invoice. If you need help I will send you one. Thanks Best Wishes Michael Cottingham __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are. -Herb Cohen -- If a million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are. -Herb Cohen -- If a million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Park Forest Meteorite, Winslow St. House
Hello Michael and list, The Winslow St. was one of the more well known impact locations. The house, yard, car, et al, was showered with a large stone (~2 kg.) that shattered in the street and it became the focal point of collectors. The most damaged spot, a crater as the homeowners called it was in the siding by the door. The meteorite broke siding in several spots, but by the door, it went through the siding, insulation and put a nice mark on the clap board. I purchased the crater from the home owner last year. (Several as found siding pieces are also in my collectionone of which is ejecta from my crater). For which my friends still make fun of me (.and picking up a blown up X-Prize space capsole/nosecone the following month didn't help that.) With the help on the homeowner's I documented the Winslow St. events for Meteorite Times. http://www.meteoritearticles.com/pfwinslowcrater.html Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Meteorite, Winslow St. House
G'day Mark, Michael and List, I have another piece from this locale. It is listed at the bottom of the page at the address below and includes an interesting description from Steve Arnold (not Chicago). http://www.meteoritesaustralia.com/favourite/january2004.html Cheers, Jeff Kuyken I.M.C.A. #3085 www.meteorites.com.au - Original Message - From: MARK BOSTICK To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 2:52 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Meteorite, Winslow St. House Hello Michael and list, The Winslow St. was one of the more well known impact locations. The house, yard, car, et al, was showered with a large stone (~2 kg.) that shattered in the street and it became the focal point of collectors. The most damaged spot, a crater as the homeowners called it was in the siding by the door. The meteorite broke siding in several spots, but by the door, it went through the siding, insulation and put a nice mark on the clap board. I purchased the crater from the home owner last year. (Several as found siding pieces are also in my collectionone of which is ejecta from my crater). For which my friends still make fun of me (.and picking up a blown up X-Prize space capsole/nosecone the following month didn't help that.) With the help on the homeowner's I documented the Winslow St. events for Meteorite Times. http://www.meteoritearticles.com/pfwinslowcrater.html Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NWA 2223 Classified Yet?
Howdy, I was just looking back through some emails and came across a discussion from March last year about one of Dean's interesting NWA's. http://www.meteoriteshop.com/900salepage.html I'm curious if this meteorite has been classified by anyone yet? Cheers, Jeff Kuyken I.M.C.A. #3085 www.meteorites.com.au __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] BLUE bits in chondrules?
I was scanning some NWA 1584 slices (one of my favorite meteorites) and I noticed some iridescent-looking blue areas in some of the chondrules on one of them. I looked at the areas with a 20x hand lens and the blue is really there, and not a scanner artifact. Anyone know what is causing this effect? The effect is obvious in the first image, but I have circled the much smaller bits in the second. The chondrules (if those are indeed chondrules) are around a centimeter across. http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/bluebits1.jpg http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/bluebits2.jpg __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Test Delete
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[meteorite-list] STILL not clear - Park Forest Meteorite, Winslow St. House
Hi Jeff, The last paragraph sounds very much like it did NOT hit a house. My original question addresses Michael Cottingham's wording in his ad that definitely IMPLIES (but does not emphatically state) that the stone hit the house. SO WHICH IS IT??? Does anyone KNOW? Michael on 1/28/05 8:28 PM, Jeff Kuyken at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day Mark, Michael and List, I have another piece from this locale. It is listed at the bottom of the page at the address below and includes an interesting description from Steve Arnold (not Chicago). http://www.meteoritesaustralia.com/favourite/january2004.html Cheers, Jeff Kuyken I.M.C.A. #3085 www.meteorites.com.au - Original Message - From: MARK BOSTICK To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 2:52 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Meteorite, Winslow St. House Hello Michael and list, The Winslow St. was one of the more well known impact locations. The house, yard, car, et al, was showered with a large stone (~2 kg.) that shattered in the street and it became the focal point of collectors. The most damaged spot, a crater as the homeowners called it was in the siding by the door. The meteorite broke siding in several spots, but by the door, it went through the siding, insulation and put a nice mark on the clap board. I purchased the crater from the home owner last year. (Several as found siding pieces are also in my collectionone of which is ejecta from my crater). For which my friends still make fun of me (.and picking up a blown up X-Prize space capsole/nosecone the following month didn't help that.) With the help on the homeowner's I documented the Winslow St. events for Meteorite Times. http://www.meteoritearticles.com/pfwinslowcrater.html Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are. -Herb Cohen -- If a million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
