[meteorite-list] Big Fireball over north Italy

2005-04-29 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
Yesterday night - 8.30 pm italian hour - a big
fireball with ended sound its seen fall over Friuli
Venezia Giulia Region. Research its in course for find
the right coordinates.

Matteo


M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato
Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it 
Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info
International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140
MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com
EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/



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[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - April 29, 2005

2005-04-29 Thread SPACEROCKSINC
http://www.spacerocksinc.com/April29.html  

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[meteorite-list] KRASNOJARK PALLASITE

2005-04-29 Thread michel CN
Dear list,
I was thinking about this important meteorite ( which gave the name to the 
Pallasite clan after Pallas claimed it had a cosmic origin, in 1772 if my 
memory is exact. The mass itself having been dicovered in 1749 in Russia ) .
It has a TKW of 700 kg according Catalogue of Meteorites and about 525 kg 
are in Museum collections, including 515 kg in Acad Sci Moscow. ( still ?)
I was wandering if much of it is in privates hands as 175 kg are missing !
Any info about it is welcome.
Best regards.
Michel FRANCO
www.caillou-noir.com 

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[meteorite-list] My own Franconia find!!!

2005-04-29 Thread Tom Knudson
Hello List,  I got a call from a restless Mike Miller
(www.meteoritefinder.com ) yesterday morning. He asked me if I wanted to
hunt Franconia with him, I saw little need because if I did not have bad
luck, I would not have any luck at all, but I went and as luck would have
it, Mike's luck rubbed off on me, probably while crossing the washes on the
road in, it was a little bumpy. : )  After a few hours searching  the well
hunted strewn field, I spotted something, the metal detector went off, my
magnet liked it, it was the most beautiful stone, I had ever seen, great
crust, My first Franconia find, a dandy!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/franhotrock.jpg

But no, it was just one of the many hot rocks disguised as a meteorite like
this one.

Well after a couple more hours, I spotted something else, it did not look
like a meteorite, but it passed the same tests the hot rocks did, but looked
to out of place among all the meteorite looking hot rocks, to be anything
else.  I called Mike over, he was not sure what it was either, he had never
seen a Franconia so ugly, I know I never had either.  We looked at it, it
sure did not look like one, but we figured it was, so we Mike took a picture
of it just in case.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/toms171fran.jpg

I picked it up and wiped the dirt off, it was not so bad after all, it is
about fifty percent crusted ( the buried side) and weighed in at 171.5
grams.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/DSCN1103.jpg

It my not be the best looking Franconia out there, but it will always be my
favorite one!

Thanks, Tom
peregrineflier 
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Re: [meteorite-list] My own Franconia find!!!

2005-04-29 Thread bernd . pauli
 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/DSCN1103.jpg

 It my not be the best looking Franconia out there,
 but it will always be my favorite one! Thanks, Tom

And how much fun it is to share with others ;-)

Congratulations, Tom !

Best wishes,

Bernd

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Re: [meteorite-list] My own Franconia find!!!

2005-04-29 Thread Michael Farmer
Congrats, that is a beautiful stone!
Mike Farmer
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Knudson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: met list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 8:39 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] My own Franconia find!!!


Hello List,  I got a call from a restless Mike Miller
(www.meteoritefinder.com ) yesterday morning. He asked me if I wanted to
hunt Franconia with him, I saw little need because if I did not have bad
luck, I would not have any luck at all, but I went and as luck would have
it, Mike's luck rubbed off on me, probably while crossing the washes on 
the
road in, it was a little bumpy. : )  After a few hours searching  the well
hunted strewn field, I spotted something, the metal detector went off, my
magnet liked it, it was the most beautiful stone, I had ever seen, great
crust, My first Franconia find, a dandy!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/franhotrock.jpg

But no, it was just one of the many hot rocks disguised as a meteorite 
like
this one.

Well after a couple more hours, I spotted something else, it did not look
like a meteorite, but it passed the same tests the hot rocks did, but 
looked
to out of place among all the meteorite looking hot rocks, to be anything
else.  I called Mike over, he was not sure what it was either, he had 
never
seen a Franconia so ugly, I know I never had either.  We looked at it, it
sure did not look like one, but we figured it was, so we Mike took a 
picture
of it just in case.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/toms171fran.jpg

I picked it up and wiped the dirt off, it was not so bad after all, it is
about fifty percent crusted ( the buried side) and weighed in at 171.5
grams.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/DSCN1103.jpg
It my not be the best looking Franconia out there, but it will always be 
my
favorite one!

Thanks, Tom
peregrineflier 
http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm
http://fstop.proboards24.com/
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[meteorite-list] Opportunity Mars Rover Stuck in Sand

2005-04-29 Thread Ron Baalke


http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/050428_rover_update.html

Opportunity Mars Rover Stuck in Sand
By Leonard David 
space.com
28 April 2005

NASA's Opportunity Mars rover has run into a sandy snag. All of its six
wheels have sunk in deep into a large ripple of soil.

Rover operators are optimistic they can extricate the robot from its
jam, having gotten dug in before. But ground controllers will need time
to wheel back on top of the soil again.

Time will also be spent figuring out what's different about the soil
that has bogged down Opportunity, hoping to keep this problem from
occurring down the road.

The Mars machinery had been cruising southward across the open parking
lot-like landscape of Meridiani Planum, full of larger and larger
ripples of soil. Opportunity has been en route to its next stopover,
Erebus crater, nestled inside an even larger crater known as Terra Nova.

Be very, very patient

A note to all you Opportunity fans: Get used to the current scenery,
because we're going to be here awhile, said Steve Squyres, lead
scientist on the Mars Exploration Rover effort at Cornell University in
Ithaca, New York. We are very optimistic that we'll be able to get out
of here, but we're really going to take our time doing it.

Squyres said the first rule in this case is do no harm - and that
means don't rush anything.

We're going to take lots of pictures of all the terrain around the
vehicle, to get a very complete picture of the situation. We're going to
do lots of testing with the rovers that we have on the ground to
simulate the situation on Mars. This testing will be aimed not just at
finding a plan that will work, but at finding the very best plan that
will work, Squyres explained in a Cornell rover web site.

One possibility is trying a number of small maneuvers with the robot at
first. That information-gathering could then lead to even more testing.

All of this is going to take a lot of time. But this is a very precious
vehicle up there, in excellent health, and there's no reason to rush
anything, Squyres said. The main message now, he added, is to be very,
very patient.

Tiny craters discovered

Prior to the rover run-a-muck, Mars rover scientists noted that
Opportunity had made yet a new discovery. Two small craters were found
on the plains of Meridiani - both less than half an inch deep and
clearly visible in snapshots taken by the rover's navigation cameras.

The two tiny craters were a surprise find, said Matt Golombek, a
principal scientist on the Mars Exploration Rover mission at NASA's Jet
Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) in Pasadena, California. These are the
smallest craters yet seen on Mars, he explained in a JPL-released
statement.

Given that these two craters haven't been covered by sand even though
they are surrounded by sand ripples on a flat plain lends support to the
idea that they're fairly recent, Golombek said. Of course, recent
might mean any time from yesterday to 100 million years ago.

Cause of the impact craters? They could have been created by an object
from space that was large enough to make it through the martian
atmosphere without burning up. Alternatively, the tiny craters could be
the result of falling rock fragments ejected from a larger crater that
formed when something crashed into the martian surface.

While engineers wrestle with Opportunity's show-stopping sand trap,
sistership Spirit is busy at work on the other side of the planet
surveying the Columbia Hills within Gusev Crater.


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[meteorite-list] Cassini's Radar And VIMS Instruments Eye Impact Crater On Titan

2005-04-29 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.spacedaily.com/news/cassini-05zs.html

Cassini's Radar And VIMS Instruments Eye Impact Crater On Titan
SpaceDaily
April 29, 2005

[image]
VIMS false-color image showing one of Titan's most prominent impact
craters. It shows the faint halo to be slightly bluer than surrounding
material. That the material is bluer than its surroundings, while also
being darker, suggests that the faint halo is somewhat different in
composition. This suggests that the composition of Titan¹s upper crust
varies with depth, and various materials were excavated when the crater
was formed. Photo credit: NASA/JPL/University of Arizona.

Pasadena CA (JPL) - The Cassini spacecraft has seen a 50-mile-diameter 
impact crater on Titan with different instruments on separate flybys, 
giving scientists new information on impact-crater formation on 
Saturn's giant moon.

They've released a composite image of one of Titan's most prominent
impact craters as previously seen by Cassini's radar and recently seen
by its Visual and Infrared Mapping Spectrometer (VIMS).

The radar image was taken during the Cassini spacecraft's Feb. 15, 2005
Titan flyby, and the VIMS images were taken during its April 16, 2005
Titan flyby, said Robert H. Brown of The University of Arizona, head of
the VIMS experiment.

Brown released the composite image at the European Geosciences Union
meeting in Vienna, Austria, on Monday (April 25).

The crater seen on Titan by both radar and VIMS is more than 50 times
larger than Meteor Crater in northern Arizona.

In radar, the crater and its ejecta blanket are bright. In radar,
brighter surfaces mean rougher terrains, or else terrains tilted towards
the radar. At VIMS infrared wavelengths, the crater appears dark and the
ejecta blanket is bright, showing that the crust on the crater floor is
different material than the ejecta.

The composite image highlights the differences and similarities in how
two instruments see the same thing, Brown said. It shows the power of
combining instruments when you are trying to understand objects in the
Saturnian system.

VIMS is essentially a camera # that takes pictures in 352 different
colors at the same time. The colors cover the visible spectrum and into
the infrared, or from three-tenths of a micron up to five and one-tenth
microns. (A micron is one millionth of a meter.) Scientists can identify
the chemical composition of the surfaces, atmospheres and rings of
Saturn and its moons using VIMS.

Cassini began a 4-year-or-more exploratory tour of the Saturn system in
July 2004. It has seen two impact craters on Titan so far.

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[meteorite-list] Rock Discovered in New Hampshire A Meteorite?

2005-04-29 Thread Ron Baalke


http://www.theunionleader.com/articles_showa.html?article=54008

Rock discovered in Manchester may be meteorite
By RILEY YATES and CAROL ROBIDOUX
Union Leader (New Hampshire)
April 29, 2005

MANCHESTER - What's grayish black, about the size of a baseball and
falls from the sky when nobody's watching?

Denise Lavoie isn't sure, either, but she's looking for someone who can
confirm her theory that the craggy rock that landed next to her
mother-in-law's rose bush the other day was a remnant from the recent
Lyrid meteor shower that has had star-gazers from across the country and
around the world calling 911.

As soon as I saw it there I knew what it was, Lavoie said yesterday of
the rock she's been keeping close tabs on since it landed about five
feet from her in-laws house at 586 Cilley Road.

Her mother-in-law, Donna Boucher, said the rock, discovered Wednesday,
wasn't there over the weekend because that's when she planted the rosebush.

At first Boucher thought the one-pound UFO might be a lump of coal or
maybe something that was thrown there by a neighbor. She said it reminds
her of rocks she would see in Reno, where she lived for 27 years.

I'm just looking for validation of what it is, said Boucher.

Eberhard Moebius, a professor of physics at the University of New
Hampshire, said there are two kinds of meteors: ones that are stony and
ones that are made of iron, nickel and other metals.

That a meteorite would bear some resemblance to lava is not surprising,
he said. If a meteorite really falls down and lands, it has gone
through the Earth's atmosphere. And it burns during that.

Moebius said Boucher and Lavoie would do best to show their specimen to
scientists at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics in
Cambridge, Mass. They would be able to say whether it was a meteorite.

Certainly that is possible and that has happened, Moebius said. But
to say that positively, one would have to see it.

So far, everyone who's seen the rock believes it to be otherworldly,
Lavoie said.

I took it to work and everyone was saying we could probably get money
for it, Lavoie said. My brother-in-law is going to make a nice box for
it and we're going to put the date on it, and where it was found. Until
then, I'm keeping it close to me.

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Re-2: [meteorite-list] My own Franconia find!!!

2005-04-29 Thread bernd . pauli
 Congrats, that is a beautiful stone! Mike Farmer

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/DSCN1103.jpg


Yep, I agree! Beautiful, bluish black, thick (see 3 o'clock
position on the right) fusion crust. I would like to know if
it is an H or L chondrite. Does it have chondrules? How many
if any?

Cheers,

Bernd

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[meteorite-list] Fw: 200 New Ebay Store Items. 50% Off ALL!

2005-04-29 Thread Michael Cottingham

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To: Michael Cottingham
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 10:32 AM
Subject: AD: 200 New Ebay Store Items. 50% Off ALL!


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[meteorite-list] Mars Exploration Rover Update - April 29, 2005

2005-04-29 Thread Ron Baalke

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html

OPPORTUNITY UPDATE: Subhead - sol 443-446, April 29, 2005

Opportunity used the spectrometers on its arm to examine the soil where
the rover stayed for six sols, then resumed driving on sol 446. However,
the drive ended after 40 meters when Opportunity was crossing a dune and
dug into it. Engineers are using a test rover to evaluate options for
getting off the dune.

Sol-by-sol summaries:

Sol 443 (ending on April 23, 2005):
IDD campaign! We started off by unstowing the instrument deployment
device -- the robotic arm -- and performing a joint stare of the sky
using the microscopic imager and panoramic camera. We then changed tools
to the alpha particle X-ray spectrometer and collected data for 5 hours
and 41 minutes about the composition of the soil in front of the rover.

Sol 444:
Opportunity deep-slept overnight, and woke up to perform a sky survey
while the Sun was high in the sky. We then changed tools to the
Mossbauer spectrometer and started a 31-hour integration on the soil.

Sol 445:
In order to keep the Mossbauer integration running, the rover did not
use the deep-sleep mode overnight. Today was devoted to continued
Mossbauer integration on the soil. At last, we stopped the Mossbauer
integration at 11:12 p.m. local time and Opportunity deep-slept for the
rest of the night.

Sol 446:
We planned a drive of about 90 meters (295 feet). After driving about 40
meters (131 feet), Opportunity dug into soft dune material, impeding
further progress. Imaging indicates all four corner wheels have dug in
by more than a wheel radius as the rover attempted to climb over a dune
about 30 centimeters (12 inches) tall. Opportunity is healthy and in a
stable configuration but further analysis is needed to understand this
event and plan future driving. Over next several sols, Opportunity will
focus on remote sensing while on Earth a series of testbed runs are in
progress to simulate terrain interaction and evaluate different egress
options.

As of sol 446 (ending on April 26, 2005), Opportunity's odometry total
is 5,346 meters (3.32 miles).

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Re: [meteorite-list] My own Franconia find!!!

2005-04-29 Thread Tom Knudson
Bernd, well let me tell you, I should not have a saw!!!  It has a lot of
Chondrules and some neat black veins, and a lot of metal, a matter of fact,
there is some great looking big pieces of metal, right in the center of
three of the slices! I will be sending pics as soon as they are sanded!!!
Thanks, Tom
peregrineflier 
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  Congrats, that is a beautiful stone! Mike Farmer

 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/DSCN1103.jpg


 Yep, I agree! Beautiful, bluish black, thick (see 3 o'clock
 position on the right) fusion crust. I would like to know if
 it is an H or L chondrite. Does it have chondrules? How many
 if any?

 Cheers,

 Bernd

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[meteorite-list] Mars Rover Panorama Shows Vista From 'Lookout' Point

2005-04-29 Thread Ron Baalke

MEDIA RELATIONS OFFICE
JET PROPULSION LABORATORY
CALIFORNIA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY
NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION
PASADENA, CALIFORNIA 91109. TELEPHONE (818) 354-5011
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov

Guy Webster (818) 354-6278
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif.

Dolores Beasley (202) 358-1753
NASA Headquarters, Washington

Image Advisory:  2005-066  April 29, 2005

Mars Rover Panorama Shows Vista From 'Lookout' Point

From a ridgeline vantage point overlooking slopes, valleys
and plains, NASA's Mars Exploration Rover Spirit has returned
its latest color panorama of the martian landscape.

Spirit's Lookout panorama is available online at
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/solarsystem/mer_main.html
and http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov .

The approximately true color image shows a full 360-degree
view from a site informally named Larry's Lookout, about
halfway up Husband Hill.

Dr. Jim Bell of Cornell University, Ithaca, N.Y., lead
scientist for the panoramic cameras on both the Spirit and
Opportunity Mars rovers, said, Spirit and the rover team
worked hard over many weeks to get to this vantage point
along the flanks of Husband Hill.  The rugged ridge and
valley terrain seen here is similar in some respects to the
view seen months earlier at the 'West Spur,' but the
chemistry and mineralogy here are significantly different.
Specifically, some of the areas seen here amid the outcrop
rocks and in places where the subsurface was exposed by the
rover wheels contain the highest sulfur abundances ever
measured by Spirit.

The view includes the summit of Husband Hill about 200 meters
(about 660 feet) southward and about 45 meters (about 150
feet) higher. As Spirit continues uphill, scientists are
looking for evidence about whether the intensity of water-
related alteration increases with elevation or whether there
are pockets of more heavily altered rocks and soils scattered
throughout the hills.

Spirit's panoramic camera took more than 300 individual
frames between Feb. 27 and March 2 that are combined into the
big picture. Downloading the frames to Earth took several
weeks, and processing took additional time. Imaging
specialists at Cornell and at NASA's Jet Propulsion
Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., calibrated the color and
assembled the image.

Spirit and its twin, Opportunity, successfully completed
three-month primary missions a year ago.  In extended
missions since then, they have been exploring at increasing
distances from their landing sites.

JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in
Pasadena, manages NASA's Mars Exploration Rover project for
NASA's Science Mission Directorate, Washington.

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[meteorite-list] Franconia sliced, metal and chondrules

2005-04-29 Thread Tom Knudson
Hello everyone, here is what my Franconia looks like sliced.

The slice
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/DSCN1116.jpg

The chondrules
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/DSCN1117.jpg

the metal blob. 
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/DSCN1118.jpg


Thanks, Tom
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[meteorite-list] New NWA to coo l???

2005-04-29 Thread Tom Knudson
Hey list, I bought this unclassified meteorite, cut it, and it sure is
different, no visible metal and a heck of a lot of perfect chondrules, the
only thing I have seen like it is a R, what do you think it could be?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/DSCN1125.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/DSCN1124.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/DSCN1119.jpg


Thanks, Tom
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Re: [meteorite-list] My own Franconia find!!!

2005-04-29 Thread MexicoDoug
Hola Tom,

Congratulations Tom you deserve  it!  - please don't turn your nice Franconia 
stone into Francfurter with  that saw.  A meteorite is only a meteorite as 
long as it can be appreciated  in its own 'rite... (!!)  Then again, he who 
has the meteorites  makes the rules - and it is all yours, lucky!  Saludos, 
Doug

En  un mensaje con fecha 04/29/2005 12:53:28 PM Mexico Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribe:
Bernd, well let me tell you, I should  not have a saw!!!  It has a lot of
Chondrules and some neat black veins,  and a lot of metal, a matter of fact,
there is some great looking big pieces  of metal, right in the center of
three of the slices! I will be sending pics  as soon as they are sanded!!!
Thanks, Tom
peregrineflier   

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Re: [meteorite-list] Franconia sliced, metal and chondrules

2005-04-29 Thread Michael Farmer
Tom,
that is a very nice looking meteorite.
I would suggest that you not cut that really nice one. I hope it is not too 
late.
mike
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Franconia sliced, metal and chondrules


Hello everyone, here is what my Franconia looks like sliced.
The slice
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/DSCN1116.jpg
The chondrules
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/DSCN1117.jpg
the metal blob.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/DSCN1118.jpg
Thanks, Tom
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Re: [meteorite-list] My own Franconia find!!!

2005-04-29 Thread Bill Southern
Thanks for the great story and photos! Congrats on a nice find.
Bill
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Knudson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: met list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 8:39 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] My own Franconia find!!!


Hello List,  I got a call from a restless Mike Miller
(www.meteoritefinder.com ) yesterday morning. He asked me if I wanted to
hunt Franconia with him, I saw little need because if I did not have bad
luck, I would not have any luck at all, but I went and as luck would have
it, Mike's luck rubbed off on me, probably while crossing the washes on 
the
road in, it was a little bumpy. : )  After a few hours searching  the well
hunted strewn field, I spotted something, the metal detector went off, my
magnet liked it, it was the most beautiful stone, I had ever seen, great
crust, My first Franconia find, a dandy!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/franhotrock.jpg

But no, it was just one of the many hot rocks disguised as a meteorite 
like
this one.

Well after a couple more hours, I spotted something else, it did not look
like a meteorite, but it passed the same tests the hot rocks did, but 
looked
to out of place among all the meteorite looking hot rocks, to be anything
else.  I called Mike over, he was not sure what it was either, he had 
never
seen a Franconia so ugly, I know I never had either.  We looked at it, it
sure did not look like one, but we figured it was, so we Mike took a 
picture
of it just in case.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/toms171fran.jpg

I picked it up and wiped the dirt off, it was not so bad after all, it is
about fifty percent crusted ( the buried side) and weighed in at 171.5
grams.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/DSCN1103.jpg
It my not be the best looking Franconia out there, but it will always be 
my
favorite one!

Thanks, Tom
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[meteorite-list] Tom's first Franconia meteorite

2005-04-29 Thread Matson, Robert
Hi Tom,

Congrats on your first Franconia meteorite find!  (See -- I ~told~
you you should be going there whenever you get a chance!)  The fairly
large metal veins are diagnostic for Franconia H5.

You had better luck than I on my last trip there March 31.  Left at
1 am from California, started hunting at 6 am after a breakfast/gas
stop at good 'ole exit 9, spent 11+ hours in the field, and then
drove home.  A long 21-hour day.  The drive always seems that
much longer when you come home empty-handed, but at least I got
some photos of the horned lizard and some of those giant yellow
caterpillars that are at Franconia by the thousands).  Also had a
nice visit with Jim Smaller and Dennis Wells who always seem to
be there when I am!

Cheers,
Rob
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[meteorite-list] Re: Tom's first Franconia meteorite

2005-04-29 Thread Tom Knudson
Rob, you saw Jim Smaller in Franconia, what are the odds???  Jim is a great
guy, I saw him on my first trip too!   It sure is fun finding them, it even
made the 2.5 mile hike over hill and dale shorter having one in my pocket.
  )
Thanks, Tom
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- Original Message -
From: Matson, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Tom Knudson' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; met list
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 12:16 PM
Subject: Tom's first Franconia meteorite


 Hi Tom,

 Congrats on your first Franconia meteorite find!  (See -- I ~told~
 you you should be going there whenever you get a chance!)  The fairly
 large metal veins are diagnostic for Franconia H5.

 You had better luck than I on my last trip there March 31.  Left at
 1 am from California, started hunting at 6 am after a breakfast/gas
 stop at good 'ole exit 9, spent 11+ hours in the field, and then
 drove home.  A long 21-hour day.  The drive always seems that
 much longer when you come home empty-handed, but at least I got
 some photos of the horned lizard and some of those giant yellow
 caterpillars that are at Franconia by the thousands).  Also had a
 nice visit with Jim Smaller and Dennis Wells who always seem to
 be there when I am!

 Cheers,
 Rob



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[meteorite-list] Field Trip Report - Mexico

2005-04-29 Thread McCartney Taylor
Earlier posting this morning didn't make it. I'm resending.
===
This is my account of a short trip to Mexico I took last week,  
April 22, 2005. My friends in Mexico told me of a rumor that  
an 8 kg iron had been found 


http://www.westernwelltool.com/trip-22APR05/morito.htm 



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Re: [meteorite-list] New NWA to coo l???

2005-04-29 Thread Meteoryt.net
 Hey list, I bought this unclassified meteorite, cut it, and it sure is
 different, no visible metal and a heck of a lot of perfect chondrules, the
 only thing I have seen like it is a R, what do you think it could be?

 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/DSCN1125.jpg
 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/DSCN1124.jpg
 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/DSCN1119.jpg

Hi
For me this looks like medium weathered L or LL chondrtite, maybe type 3 or
4
How strong magnetic it is ?  Becouse fact that You not see iron its not a
proof that he is not there :)

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Re: [meteorite-list] New NWA to coo l???

2005-04-29 Thread Ingo Herkstroeter
Hey Tom, Dear List,

I think it`s a LL3!

Ingo/Germany (New at the List) 

Hey list, I bought this unclassified meteorite, cut it, and it sure is
 different, no visible metal and a heck of a lot of perfect chondrules, the
 only thing I have seen like it is a R, what do you think it could be?
 
 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/DSCN1125.jpg
 
 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/DSCN1124.jpg
 
 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/DSCN1119.jpg
 
 
 Thanks, Tom
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[meteorite-list] OT Acasta rocks

2005-04-29 Thread Dave Harris
Hi,
I am trying to get a sample of the Acasta gneisses for my geology studies
and collection.  Anyone know where I can get a hand-sized lump of this old
rock?

Indeed, I am after any examples of VERY old terrestrial rocks - I know there
are a few areas, such as Greenland that also have some =4Ga old rocks
specimens.
Apologies to those offended by the non-meteoritic content of this submission


regs

dave

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RE: [meteorite-list] Franconia sliced, metal and chondrules

2005-04-29 Thread Greg Redfern
Tom,

   What a gorgeous specimen - my heartiest (and envious ;-) )
congratulations!

All the best,

Greg

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom
Knudson
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 2:34 PM
To: met list
Subject: [meteorite-list] Franconia sliced, metal and chondrules

Hello everyone, here is what my Franconia looks like sliced.

The slice
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/DSCN1116.jpg

The chondrules
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/DSCN1117.jpg

the metal blob. 
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/DSCN1118.jpg


Thanks, Tom
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[meteorite-list] stefan's new chondrule comglomerate

2005-04-29 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!
Hi and good afternoon list.I am just wondering.Of all the people who
ordered stefan ralews new chondrule conglomerate,has anyone received it
yet?I am still waiting for mine.I would like to knowwho got theres and
what thery think of it.

   steve

Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 
 

Illinois Meteorites,Ltd!


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[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images - April 25-29, 2005

2005-04-29 Thread Ron Baalke

MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES
April 25-29, 2005

o Southern Kasei Vallis (Released 25 April 2005)
  http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20050425a.html

o Alluvial Fans in Kasei Vallis (Released 26 April 2005)
  http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20050426a.html

o Islands in Kasei Vallis (Released 27 April 2005)
  http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20050427a.html

o Rejoining Flows (Released 28 April 2005)
  http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20050428A.html

o Water Flow Evidence in Kasei Vallis (Released 29 April 2005)
  http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20050429a.html



All of the THEMIS images are archived here:

http://themis.la.asu.edu/latest.html

NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission 
for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission 
Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University,
Tempe, in collaboration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. 
The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State 
University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor 
for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission 
operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a 
division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. 


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Re: [meteorite-list] Field Trip Report - Mexico

2005-04-29 Thread Bill Southern
Thank you for a really good read after a long day at work...
Cheers, Bill S.
- Original Message - 
From: McCartney Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 12:25 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Field Trip Report - Mexico


Earlier posting this morning didn't make it. I'm resending.
===
This is my account of a short trip to Mexico I took last week,  
April 22, 2005. My friends in Mexico told me of a rumor that  
an 8 kg iron had been found 

http://www.westernwelltool.com/trip-22APR05/morito.htm 


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[meteorite-list] Rediculous Crater Question

2005-04-29 Thread CalSouth1
It seems that it is hard for most to pick up the feature I spotted on the 
NOAA satellite weather animations.  

I guess I have been looking at these satellite pictures since the 70's when I 
worked at Goldstone and Goddard.  So I must be seeing something else.  One 
has to check it at several times a day for over a week to get a chance of 
seeing 
the feature in all its glory.

Anyway I found a decent geographical relief map and lo and behold my crater 
feature was moved East about 400 mi.  It appears the States grid on the NOAA 
map is off by that much.

Received a reply from a USGS researcher who spotted another smaller crater 
feature next to ShipRock NMex.  His was much better formed and it sure looks 
like a crater to me.  But then I am just a hobbiest.  

Anyway on the relief map my two large features become more complicated and 
one might have to stretch it a few to come to any conclusionsHowever both 
features show to me  and there is even the upwelling in the center of the 
larger 
circle.  I guess the only way to make sure is to check the mountain ring 
looking for shocked quartz.   

But as the Geographer put it, I have not identified anything definitive 
about this area and whether there is meteorite or volcanic activity that would 
have caused a crater here.  However, your hypothesis is a worthy one, but would 
have to be tested.

And so I have something to do now if I ever get to travel to NMex and check 
these features out.

Thanks for your comments, I appreciate it.

John
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[meteorite-list] Great Report on Mexico Finds!

2005-04-29 Thread drtanuki
Thank you for the fantastic news and photos. 
Sincerely, Dirk Ross...Tokyo

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[meteorite-list] stefan's new chondrule comglomerate

2005-04-29 Thread Michael Fowler
Mine arrived today, but have not opened the package yet.  Will report 
to list later.

Mike Fowler
Chicago
ebay--starsandrocks

Hi and good afternoon list.I am just wondering.Of all the people who
ordered stefan ralews new chondrule conglomerate,has anyone received it
yet?I am still waiting for mine.I would like to knowwho got theres and
what thery think of it.
   steve
Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120
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[meteorite-list] JPL Open House: An Invitation to the Solar System and Beyond

2005-04-29 Thread Ron Baalke

MEDIA RELATIONS OFFICE
JET PROPULSION LABORATORY
CALIFORNIA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY
NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION
PASADENA, CALIF. 91109 TELEPHONE (818) 354-5011
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov

Natalie Godwin (818) 354-0850
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif.

News Release: 2005-067   April 29, 2005

JPL Open House: An Invitation to the Solar System and Beyond

NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., invites the
public to share the Spirit of Exploration during its Open House
on Saturday and Sunday, May 14 and 15, from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m.
Visitors will go behind the scenes to learn about exciting missions
to study the solar system, the universe, and our home planet.

Once inside the gates, guests will be able to talk with scientists
and engineers working on JPL missions, and find out how spacecraft
are sent to other planets. Visitors can explore the planets as they
walk through a model of the solar system, build their own
spacecraft and have their picture taken in infrared light.

Visitors will see exhibits, displays and presentations about new
technologies, solar system exploration and spacecraft
communication. Spacecraft models will be on display and movies will
highlight the excitement of the Cassini-Huygens mission to Saturn
and the upcoming Deep Impact mission to a comet.

The Open House is a fun and educational event for children too,
with planetary puzzles and games, science projects and the chance
to get rolled over by a rover. High school students will display
robots they built for regional and national competitions.

Admission is free. No backpacks or ice chests are allowed, with the
exception of small purses and diaper bags. Visitors, vehicles and
personal belongings are subject to inspection. Food and beverages
will be available, along with space souvenirs, and JPL and NASA
merchandise.

JPL is located at 4800 Oak Grove Drive. Exit the 210 (Foothill)
Freeway at the Berkshire Avenue/Oak Grove Drive exit in La Canada-
Flintridge.  Parking is available near the Oak Grove Drive main
gate and on the eastern boundary of JPL, accessible from Windsor
Avenue via the Arroyo Boulevard exit off the 210 Freeway. Buses and
tour guides will move people between different locations around the
facility. Walking is required to some locations.
 
More information is available at http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/pso/oh.cfm
or call
(818) 354-0112.   Directions are available at
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/about_JPL/directions.cfm .

The California Institute of Technology in Pasadena manages JPL for
NASA.
 
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[meteorite-list] ¿ Shocked quartz ?

2005-04-29 Thread gian paolo gallo gallo

Buenas noches , List. Have any of you a picture of shocked cristal quartz ?. I would really appreciate if some one send us a picture to see how they looks like.
Thanks in advance.
Hasta luego
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[meteorite-list] Collection page has been updated.

2005-04-29 Thread Mike / flattoprocks
Hello everyone, Geoff Notkin has just finished the first update of my 
collection page.
I do love when someone comes to my house who is interested in meteorites, 
as this gives me a chance to share my collection. This is also one of the 
biggest reasons I wanted a website, it gives me a chance to share the really 
cool pieces that I have been fortunate enough to add to my collection. I 
hope some of you enjoy a look as I do. Thanks
Just go to www.meteoritefinder.com and click on collection.
Mike Miller  //  E-Bay  flattoprocks
Website // www.meteoritefinder.com
Check out the web site it is up and running!
Mike Miller 230 Greenway Rd. Kingman AZ 86401 

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[meteorite-list] Got Astronomy?

2005-04-29 Thread Greg Redfern
Hello List,

  If any of you are interested in astronomy  space exploration, I would be
honored if you would use my new weekly column at WTOPNEWS.com as a resource.
If any of your kids are space oriented, this is a GREAT resource for them
and their teachers. The link is under my name.

  If you have a topic - you can bet meteorites will be a topic - let me know
of your interests.

  Space Day is May 5th and is celebrated around the world. I will be at the
National Air  Space Museum's Udvar-Hazy Facility with NASA/JPL if any of
you are in the Northern VA area. We will have a Space Day Family Night for
the first time and I am hoping for a big turn out.

All the best,

Greg

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Re: [meteorite-list] JPL Open House: An Invitation to the Solar System and Beyond

2005-04-29 Thread martinh
Hi Ron,

Wishi I could be there.

Will the Genesis sample return capsule be on display?

Cheers,

Martin

- Original Message -
From: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, April 29, 2005 4:32 pm
Subject: [meteorite-list] JPL Open House: An Invitation to the Solar System 
and Beyond

 
 MEDIA RELATIONS OFFICE
 JET PROPULSION LABORATORY
 CALIFORNIA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY
 NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION
 PASADENA, CALIF. 91109 TELEPHONE (818) 354-5011
 http://www.jpl.nasa.gov
 
 Natalie Godwin (818) 354-0850
 Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif.
 
 News Release: 2005-067   April 29, 2005
 
 JPL Open House: An Invitation to the Solar System and Beyond
 
 NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., invites the
 public to share the Spirit of Exploration during its Open House
 on Saturday and Sunday, May 14 and 15, from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m.
 Visitors will go behind the scenes to learn about excit
ing missions
 to study the solar system, the universe, and our home planet.
 
 Once inside the gates, guests will be able to talk with scientists
 and engineers working on JPL missions, and find out how spacecraft
 are sent to other planets. Visitors can explore the planets as they
 walk through a model of the solar system, build their own
 spacecraft and have their picture taken in infrared light.
 
 Visitors will see exhibits, displays and presentations about new
 technologies, solar system exploration and spacecraft
 communication. Spacecraft models will be on display and movies will
 highlight the excitement of the Cassini-Huygens mission to Saturn
 and the upcoming Deep Impact mission to a comet.
 
 The Open House is a fun and educational event for children too,
 with planetary puzzles and games, science projects and the chance
 to get rolled over by a rover. High school students will display
 robots they built for regional and national competitions.
 

 Admission is free. No backpacks or ice chests are allowed, with the
 exception of small purses and diaper bags. Visitors, vehicles and
 personal belongings are subject to inspection. Food and beverages
 will be available, along with space souvenirs, and JPL and NASA
 merchandise.
 
 JPL is located at 4800 Oak Grove Drive. Exit the 210 (Foothill)
 Freeway at the Berkshire Avenue/Oak Grove Drive exit in La Canada-
 Flintridge.  Parking is available near the Oak Grove Drive main
 gate and on the eastern boundary of JPL, accessible from Windsor
 Avenue via the Arroyo Boulevard exit off the 210 Freeway. Buses and
 tour guides will move people between different locations around the
 facility. Walking is required to some locations.
 
 More information is available at http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/pso/oh.cfm
 or call
 (818) 354-0112.   Directions are available at
 http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/about_JPL/directions.cfm .
 
 The California Institute of Technology in Pasad
ena manages JPL for
 NASA.
 
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[meteorite-list] Pictures of shocked quartz

2005-04-29 Thread gian paolo gallo gallo
Hola , list. We need help about pictures of shocked cristal quartz. We would appreciate any help you can give to us. Thanks in advance.
Hasta luego
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Re: [meteorite-list] Collection page has been updated.

2005-04-29 Thread Dave Freeman mjwy
Dear Mike;
I just read the whole site and had to get a towel to wipe the druel from my
chin!  Extremely nice site, really excellent and exciting stories. Very well
done!
I keep wondering if I am missing by not swinging my detector more even
though I am cold hunting areas with no rocks
Dave F.
Rock Springs, WY
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Collection page has been updated.


 Hello everyone, Geoff Notkin has just finished the first update of my
 collection page.
  I do love when someone comes to my house who is interested in meteorites,
 as this gives me a chance to share my collection. This is also one of the
 biggest reasons I wanted a website, it gives me a chance to share the
really
 cool pieces that I have been fortunate enough to add to my collection. I
 hope some of you enjoy a look as I do. Thanks
  Just go to www.meteoritefinder.com and click on collection.
 Mike Miller  //  E-Bay  flattoprocks
 Website // www.meteoritefinder.com
 Check out the web site it is up and running!
 Mike Miller 230 Greenway Rd. Kingman AZ 86401


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[meteorite-list] Re: ?Shocked quartz?

2005-04-29 Thread Paul H
gian paolo gallo gallo wrote:

Buenas noches , List. Have any of you a 
picture of shocked cristal quartz ?. I 
would really appreciate if some one 
send us a picture to see how they 
looks like.

To see shocked quartz, a person needs to first make a
petrographic thin sections of the material, which a
person 
suspects contains some.

A page that explains what shocked quartz is WHAT IS 
SHOCKED QUARTZ? at:
http://www.scn.org/~bh162/shocked_quartz.html
http://www.scn.org/~bh162/shocked_quartz.jpg
http://www.classzone.com/books/earth_science/terc/content/investigations/esu801/esu801page03.cfm
http://www.classzone.com/books/earth_science/terc/content/investigations/esu801/images/esu801_p3_shocked_quartz_b.gif

Pictures of shocked quartz can be found at:

1. CHESAPEAKE BAY IMPACT STRUCTURE.
http://www.wm.edu/geology/virginia/cbis.html
http://www.wm.edu/geology/virginia/cbis-izett-shockedqtz.gif

2. Lecture 5 Debate 1: What Killed the Dinosaurs?
(cont.)
http://atropos.as.arizona.edu/aiz/teaching/a204/lecture5.html
http://atropos.as.arizona.edu/aiz/teaching/a204/images/shocked_quartz.gif

3. The Extinction Of The Dinosaurs
http://www.priweb.org/ed/ICTHOL/ICTHOLrp/34rp.htm
http://www.priweb.org/ed/ICTHOL/ICTHOLrp/34rp_files/image006.jpg

4. Research Interests - Dr. Jared R. Morrow
http://esci.unco.edu/faculty/morrow/Morrow_UNC_home_files/Morrow_Research.htm
http://esci.unco.edu/faculty/morrow/Morrow_UNC_home_files/Research%20Photos/shock_qtz_gr.jpg

Best Regards,

Paul
Baton Rouge, LA





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