Re: [meteorite-list] Re: New Concord Meteorite, Hot and Cold Again
Hi, Michael, I didn't mean to be PRO or CON on the hot or cold question. I offered no judgement. I am inclined to the SOMETIMES HOT school myself. I only meant to demostrate a pecularity of the way in which human perception and conception interact so strongly and the difficulty it poses for evaluating witness reports from the past.. Sterling K. Webb Michael L Blood wrote: Regardless of endless research on the color of lightning, there are many credible DOCUMENTED cases of hot meteorites - including documented incidences by Nininger. One recent event demonstrating such a phenomenon was one of the Portalas Valley stones that melted a plastic bag it landed on. Best wishes, Michael on 7/23/05 11:53 AM, Sterling K. Webb at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Everybody! Ah, the old meteorite hot or cold debate, again. How good are human witnesses? Not very. We know that. Specifically, how good are they at making specific qualitative observations? Are their perceptions unbiased by their notions about the object observed? The answer to that is no. My example is lightning. If I ask you What color is lightning? I will get a variety of answers based on your perceptions of lightning AND your knowledge of it. Most will say white. Many will add to it, blue-white. There will be few others, about 5%, the most naive and uneducated observers, who will add a tinge of red, orange, yellow, usually with an -ish tacked on the end. The actual color of lightning is white, of course, since the central core plasma of a bolt is at a temperature between a minimum of 20,000 and usually closer to 30,000 degrees Kelvin. Many years ago (long before Google), I did an exhaustive search (months) of all the historic literature of the world, every language, every culture (available in translation) for descriptions of the color of lightning. English, French, Spanish, Italian, German, Russian, etc., medieval and modern up to 1800 AD. The Greeks and Romans, Egyptians, Mesopotamian, Hindu, Chinese, everybody! (I just want to impress you with the thoroughness of the search.) I was able to find 974 descriptions of lightning color, some from every time period and literature searched. I probably could have found thousands, but since the results were conclusive, I quit the increasingly difficult task. Absolutely, without any doubt, before the year 1800 AD, all lightning on the planet Earth was RED in color, or red-orange, or bloody or other descriptive terms clearly derived from the color red. Obviously, some major change in the physical character of electricity or the nature of the planet's atmosphere had occurred, hadn't it? Between 1790 and 1900, lightning changed color from RED to WHITE or blue-white. There's no doubt about it. What happened? Well, before 1800 AD, everybody knew that lightning was fire. By 1900 AD, everybody knew that lightning was electricity. That's all. Before 1800 AD, there was no electricity, so how could we know waht color lightning was? Fire is red; electricity is white or blue-white in discharge. Ah, now we know! Human perception is not influenced by human conception or pre-convictions, it is totally OVERWHELMED by it. Human beings only see what they BELIEVE they are seeing. They pay no attention at all to what is actually there or to the data presented to their senses, correcting obvious errors on the fly before the perception even reaches consciousness. Meteorites? Flamin' Fireballs, Batman! Burning, blinding, fiery bolides! Yada yada. Of course, meteorites are hot! It's surprising they're not molten, like the standard Hollywood B-movie of the 1950's, with its glowing craters. John Carradine as The Professor says gravely and deep-voiced, We'll have to wait until the meteorite cools. It's OBVIOUS that meteorites are hot, so they are... Sarcasm aside, it's to be expected that there would be many reports of hot or at least warm meteorites. Warm is probably a compromise made between the knowledge that they are hot and the strange fact that you can't feel any heat! UFO's? Sterling K. Webb PS: Out of 974 references to lightning color, the was ONE reference to blue lightnings, in the eighth century early Slavic epic poem, The Song Of Igor's Campaign, the oldest known piece of literature in anything resembling the Russian language, at the furthest Eastern reach of European peoples at the time. One good observer in millennia. AL Mitterling wrote: Hi Mark and list, I find the statement below hard to believe, because of the time to reach the specimen and it being in moist soil. Perhaps the sun was shinning (according to Mark's
[meteorite-list] New Concord Meteorite, Hot and Cold Again
Hi Sterling - sorry I misread your intended meaning. Best wishes, Michael on 7/23/05 11:53 PM, Sterling K. Webb at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Michael, I didn't mean to be PRO or CON on the hot or cold question. I offered no judgement. I am inclined to the SOMETIMES HOT school myself. I only meant to demostrate a pecularity of the way in which human perception and conception interact so strongly and the difficulty it poses for evaluating witness reports from the past.. Sterling K. Webb -- -- Michael L Blood wrote: Regardless of endless research on the color of lightning, there are many credible DOCUMENTED cases of hot meteorites - including documented incidences by Nininger. One recent event demonstrating such a phenomenon was one of the Portalas Valley stones that melted a plastic bag it landed on. Best wishes, Michael on 7/23/05 11:53 AM, Sterling K. Webb at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Everybody! Ah, the old meteorite hot or cold debate, again. How good are human witnesses? Not very. We know that. Specifically, how good are they at making specific qualitative observations? Are their perceptions unbiased by their notions about the object observed? The answer to that is no. My example is lightning. If I ask you What color is lightning? I will get a variety of answers based on your perceptions of lightning AND your knowledge of it. Most will say white. Many will add to it, blue-white. There will be few others, about 5%, the most naive and uneducated observers, who will add a tinge of red, orange, yellow, usually with an -ish tacked on the end. The actual color of lightning is white, of course, since the central core plasma of a bolt is at a temperature between a minimum of 20,000 and usually closer to 30,000 degrees Kelvin. Many years ago (long before Google), I did an exhaustive search (months) of all the historic literature of the world, every language, every culture (available in translation) for descriptions of the color of lightning. English, French, Spanish, Italian, German, Russian, etc., medieval and modern up to 1800 AD. The Greeks and Romans, Egyptians, Mesopotamian, Hindu, Chinese, everybody! (I just want to impress you with the thoroughness of the search.) I was able to find 974 descriptions of lightning color, some from every time period and literature searched. I probably could have found thousands, but since the results were conclusive, I quit the increasingly difficult task. Absolutely, without any doubt, before the year 1800 AD, all lightning on the planet Earth was RED in color, or red-orange, or bloody or other descriptive terms clearly derived from the color red. Obviously, some major change in the physical character of electricity or the nature of the planet's atmosphere had occurred, hadn't it? Between 1790 and 1900, lightning changed color from RED to WHITE or blue-white. There's no doubt about it. What happened? Well, before 1800 AD, everybody knew that lightning was fire. By 1900 AD, everybody knew that lightning was electricity. That's all. Before 1800 AD, there was no electricity, so how could we know waht color lightning was? Fire is red; electricity is white or blue-white in discharge. Ah, now we know! Human perception is not influenced by human conception or pre-convictions, it is totally OVERWHELMED by it. Human beings only see what they BELIEVE they are seeing. They pay no attention at all to what is actually there or to the data presented to their senses, correcting obvious errors on the fly before the perception even reaches consciousness. Meteorites? Flamin' Fireballs, Batman! Burning, blinding, fiery bolides! Yada yada. Of course, meteorites are hot! It's surprising they're not molten, like the standard Hollywood B-movie of the 1950's, with its glowing craters. John Carradine as The Professor says gravely and deep-voiced, We'll have to wait until the meteorite cools. It's OBVIOUS that meteorites are hot, so they are... Sarcasm aside, it's to be expected that there would be many reports of hot or at least warm meteorites. Warm is probably a compromise made between the knowledge that they are hot and the strange fact that you can't feel any heat! UFO's? Sterling K. Webb PS: Out of 974 references to lightning color, the was ONE reference to blue lightnings, in the eighth century early Slavic epic poem, The Song Of Igor's Campaign, the oldest known piece of literature in anything resembling the Russian language, at the furthest Eastern reach of European peoples at the time. One good observer in millennia. AL Mitterling wrote: Hi Mark and list, I find the statement below hard to believe, because of the time to
Re: [meteorite-list] Opinion needed
NEVER EVER GIVE OUT YOUR BANK ACCOUNT NUMBER...NEVER That seller should have never even asked for it! Hmm, so explain me please what I can do with Your bank account number ? From my experienes I can share this number to friend or/and send money to Your account. Thats all. I dont think that I can get money from Your bank account when I have ONLY account number. Also I think, to purchase on eBay You don't use bank account where You have money of Your life. So where its problem ? I can send here my german bank account, my 2 polish accounts for basic operations and I know that its safe. IF, somehow someone can steal money from my account (but how without any informations about internet banking passwords and one time use paswords for money transfers) my bank is insured and all unautorised transfers is a problem of bank, not mine. Or maybe US banking system work really different ? For me its little strange becouse alvays US customers or sellers react with panic when I asking for bank account number for for example sending them money to their bank account. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] A news in my collection site
Hello I have put a new link in my collection site, its the link of the Italian Meteorite Collections. Here you find the links of the first important italian collections. For the moment its available the links of the Bologna and Vatican museum, but in few time I hope to put the Modena Collection and the Rome Collection. http://www.mcomemeteorite.info Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day -- July 24, 2005
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[meteorite-list] AD - Ebay auctions ending soon
Hello List, some of my ebay auctions ending in a few hours, if you like take a look: http://cgi6.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=gipometeoritesinclude=0sort=3rows=25since=-1rd=1 Dhofars, Nwa's, Gibeon, Brahin, Benguerir and some more Thanks for looking! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Opinion needed
On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 10:38:44 +0200, Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or maybe US banking system work really different ? For me its little strange becouse alvays US customers or sellers react with panic when I asking for bank account number for for example sending them money to their bank account. http://www.reallifedebt.com/automatic-debit-scam.html http://www.bbbsilicon.org/topic148.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Opinion needed
Everyone does realize that your bank account number and your bank's routing number is printed at the bottom of every US check that you mail to pay your bills, right? Frank Prochaska -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Meteoryt.net Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 12:39 AM Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Opinion needed NEVER EVER GIVE OUT YOUR BANK ACCOUNT NUMBER...NEVER That seller should have never even asked for it! Hmm, so explain me please what I can do with Your bank account number ? From my experienes I can share this number to friend or/and send money to Your account. Thats all. I dont think that I can get money from Your bank account when I have ONLY account number. Also I think, to purchase on eBay You don't use bank account where You have money of Your life. So where its problem ? I can send here my german bank account, my 2 polish accounts for basic operations and I know that its safe. IF, somehow someone can steal money from my account (but how without any informations about internet banking passwords and one time use paswords for money transfers) my bank is insured and all unautorised transfers is a problem of bank, not mine. Or maybe US banking system work really different ? For me its little strange becouse alvays US customers or sellers react with panic when I asking for bank account number for for example sending them money to their bank account. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Opinion needed - AD
Peanut, Frank all, $ wires are common - especially in conducting international business, and yes, your account and routing number is at the bottom of every check you write and a wealth of info is passed on every time you use a credit card or debit card. On top of that, people are stealing mail at an alarming rate and a credit card outfit reported 41 MILLION Identities and misc. information were stolen in the last 2 weeks. The FBI reports it takes an average of 600 hours and 40 LBs of paperwork by an ID Theft vicime to restore a stolen identity to its original state. If people are concerned about ID theft, fraud, etc, they should get the only ID Theft protection that guarantees reconstruction as well as total protection (US Canada, only). It's very cheap and it is iron clad. Contact me off list if interested. Email or phone 619 286-4837 for no more stress and total security. Best wishes, Michael on 7/24/05 10:30 AM, Frank Prochaska at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everyone does realize that your bank account number and your bank's routing number is printed at the bottom of every US check that you mail to pay your bills, right? Frank Prochaska -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Meteoryt.net Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 12:39 AM Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Opinion needed NEVER EVER GIVE OUT YOUR BANK ACCOUNT NUMBER...NEVER That seller should have never even asked for it! Hmm, so explain me please what I can do with Your bank account number ? From my experienes I can share this number to friend or/and send money to Your account. Thats all. I dont think that I can get money from Your bank account when I have ONLY account number. Also I think, to purchase on eBay You don't use bank account where You have money of Your life. So where its problem ? I can send here my german bank account, my 2 polish accounts for basic operations and I know that its safe. IF, somehow someone can steal money from my account (but how without any informations about internet banking passwords and one time use paswords for money transfers) my bank is insured and all unautorised transfers is a problem of bank, not mine. Or maybe US banking system work really different ? For me its little strange becouse alvays US customers or sellers react with panic when I asking for bank account number for for example sending them money to their bank account. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- http://costofwar.com/index-world-hunger.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] looking for back issues of meteorite magazine
Hi list,I am going thru my meteorite magazines and realized that I am missing a bunch of them.Here is what I am looking for:FEB THRU NOV.,1999,FEB,MAY and nov,2000,feb. thru nov, 2001,feb 2002,and feb. 2003.Please let me know if you have any of those you would like to sell.I can paypal you right away.Thanks for your time. steve Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 Illinois Meteorites,Ltd! website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] looking for back issues of meteorite magazine
Steve, They sell back issues right on the meteorite magazine website. Some may be sold out, but see if they still have the ones that you need. - Original Message - From: Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 4:04 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] looking for back issues of meteorite magazine Hi list,I am going thru my meteorite magazines and realized that I am missing a bunch of them.Here is what I am looking for:FEB THRU NOV.,1999,FEB,MAY and nov,2000,feb. thru nov, 2001,feb 2002,and feb. 2003.Please let me know if you have any of those you would like to sell.I can paypal you right away.Thanks for your time. steve Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 Illinois Meteorites,Ltd! website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Attn: Meteorite Dealers
Hello Dealers, I am excited to announce my new webiste for meteorite buyers at www.FindMeteorites.com. This site is dedicated to providing the collector a place to go to quickly find which dealers are selling which specimens. Basically, it is a big online classified ad website. Sellers (and buyers) can purchase ad space under the appropriate meteorite name if they have it in stock. So when the buying customers start to shop, they know if you have what they want. Sharing the concept with just a few sellers, I already have verbal commitments from the following people that they are going to participate: Blaine Reed Michael Blood Kevin Kichinka Adam Hupe Roman Jirasek John Schooler While these guys are writing up their ads to submit, others dealers have shown interest by asking some good questions. I have tried to price this so it is a very good deal, to encourage maximum participation from the different dealers. The goal is to get as many sellers as possible to list their inventories so that the site will be a great source for buyers to find exactly what they need - quickly. If you are a seller, what better place to expose what you have to offer? If you would be interested in advertising, I am offering a special 40% off rate if you place your ads by August 1st. Details are found on the Contact Us - Rates page. Most feel that the top spots in ANY advertising are the premium locations to have (which is why Google and ebay sell them for a premium price). Instead of selling those spots, they will be filled on a first come first served basis at no extra charge. So decide if you want to target these customers, and if so, get your order in ASAP. While the site is just a skeleton site right now, it will be filling up very quickly. You can visit the A - G Meteorites page at the site to see an example of what the ads could look like under ALLENDE. If you are a collector, I invite you to visit the site and bookmark it now, so that you can use the source from now on. Come back often and see how we grow. Email or call with questions. Steve Arnold #1, Arkansas 479-665-2468 www.FindMeteorites.com Where Virtually Everyone Comes to Find Meteorites! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT'Meteorite chat tonight?
List, Anyone wish to join the chatroom tonight? Thanks. Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Attn: Meteorite Dealers
Steve, This is an awesome idea. You are a genius. Now maybe I'll be able to find a Plainview individual. Thanks Bob Evans - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 4:33 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Attn: Meteorite Dealers Hello Dealers, I am excited to announce my new webiste for meteorite buyers at www.FindMeteorites.com. This site is dedicated to providing the collector a place to go to quickly find which dealers are selling which specimens. Basically, it is a big online classified ad website. Sellers (and buyers) can purchase ad space under the appropriate meteorite name if they have it in stock. So when the buying customers start to shop, they know if you have what they want. Sharing the concept with just a few sellers, I already have verbal commitments from the following people that they are going to participate: Blaine Reed Michael Blood Kevin Kichinka Adam Hupe Roman Jirasek John Schooler While these guys are writing up their ads to submit, others dealers have shown interest by asking some good questions. I have tried to price this so it is a very good deal, to encourage maximum participation from the different dealers. The goal is to get as many sellers as possible to list their inventories so that the site will be a great source for buyers to find exactly what they need - quickly. If you are a seller, what better place to expose what you have to offer? If you would be interested in advertising, I am offering a special 40% off rate if you place your ads by August 1st. Details are found on the Contact Us - Rates page. Most feel that the top spots in ANY advertising are the premium locations to have (which is why Google and ebay sell them for a premium price). Instead of selling those spots, they will be filled on a first come first served basis at no extra charge. So decide if you want to target these customers, and if so, get your order in ASAP. While the site is just a skeleton site right now, it will be filling up very quickly. You can visit the A - G Meteorites page at the site to see an example of what the ads could look like under ALLENDE. If you are a collector, I invite you to visit the site and bookmark it now, so that you can use the source from now on. Come back often and see how we grow. Email or call with questions. Steve Arnold #1, Arkansas 479-665-2468 www.FindMeteorites.com Where Virtually Everyone Comes to Find Meteorites! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Article (with a few errors) on meteorite collecting
http://auctionbytes.com/cab/abu/y205/m07/abu0147/s06 Collector's Corner: Meteorites By Zander Kaufman AuctionBytes.com July 24, 2005 You were told as a kid that money doesn't grow on trees, but it can fall out of the sky from time to time. The pastime of collecting meteorite has grown in popularity over the past couple of years due to several movies and a growing interest in the space sciences. Today it is easier then ever before to start a meteorite collection of your own. Everyday, earth is bombarded by thousands of pounds of space junk, most of it being the size of a grain of sand, wich is what you see as shooting stars on clear nights. But every now and then a piece the size of your fist or bigger makes its way through the earth's unforgiving atmosphere. If you don't have the time to go searching through strewn fields (meteor impact locations) for meteorites, you can find great deals online on auction sites like eBay. Prices range from a dollar to well over $5,000 for the very rare. General cataloged meteorites sell for an average price point of a dollar a gram. The price rises or falls after you factor in the meteorite's historic value and composition. A specimen that was part of the asteroid that made the meteor crater outside of Winslow, Arizona might bring a higher price than one of the same size and composition found in another location. For the first-time collector, I would recommend buying small samples to start your collection. Start with basic iron and stony iron meteorites. These are the least expensive and easiest to find online. By doing this you will have a better idea of the market, and you will be able to figure out what type of meteorite you want to collect. It is also a must to buy only from sellers with established feedback for selling good quality meteorites. Meteorites are not easy to fake, and most of the fakes are merely misidentified, so be on the lookout and do your research. You might find some sellers who claim they are members of a meteorite collecting organization or society. This is in no way a badge of honor. Unless they have good feedback for selling real meteorites as advertised, I would be cautious if you are not a seasoned collector. Identification There are some basic ways to identify a true meteorite. The object is attracted to a magnet--proof of Iron present. Unless the specimen has been sliced, it should exhibit a thin, dark layer. This is called fusion crust, caused by the object entering the atmosphere. If the specimen is a single whole piece, it should exhibit an aerodynamic shape, also caused by the entry into our atmosphere. This is the same of shape you would get if you where to hold an ice cube under rushing hot water. Even with these basic principles, it's still possible to misidentify a sample. Especially with online auctions where you are unable hold the sample in your hand. I know for a fact that I have bought misidentified meteorites, which are known as meteor-wrongs. This is another reason to start out small with your collection. By buying good quality pieces, you will start to learn the language. Iron, Stony iron, impact glass, and Slag are some terms that might confuse the new collector. There are books out there that will explain in great detail everything there is to know about meteors and meteorite collecting. High on that list is O. Richard Norton's Rocks from Space. This book is a must. Considered by many, including myself, to be the meteorite collectors' bible. Collecting meteorites is a much bigger field then most people realize. The love and enjoyment of collecting meteorites is almost universal. Even if someone has never seen a meteorite up close or held one in their hand, it always brings awe and a few wonders. And that is not a bad thing to collect. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
