Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Brenham Follow-on Effect
Dear List, I think the most obvious reason for the lack of press focus on Park Forest (March 26/27, 2003) is the fact that the invasion of Iraq, or Gulf War II, commenced on March 20, 2003 and was, at the time of Park Forest, in the most hotly contested uncertainty of outcome. The morning of the 27th, when Park Forest was reported, coincides with the most massive aerial bom- bardment of Bagdad, complete with extensive and spectacular video of the event from inside the city, while troops in the field were deadlocked in static and punishing battles 60 miles to the southeast. As for the character of the news story, the media is far more interested in Act of God events than human accomplishments, especially scientific ones. And no amount of press releases and promotion would make finding a new main mass of Brenham a news story if it were competing against, say, the D-Day landing or a major act of terrorism or a good-sized hurricane. In matters of coverage, timing is everything. Many a minor story has ballooned to major merely by hitting on a dead spot in the news cycle. If the news is full, baby down a well goes to page 37. If there's nothing else happening at the moment, it lands on page one. However, once a story reaches enough people to interest a sufficient number, the story acquires a life of its own. But getting there is mostly a matter of luck. Sterling K. Webb --- Notkin wrote: Jeff K. posted: I have also found it quite amazing that this find seems to have generated such a vast interest across the US. Maybe even more than Park Forest. Dear Jeff and List: You've made a very interesting observation Jeff. I also believe the press coverage on this is much greater than Park Forest. We know of print/TV stories in Canada, England, Germany, and in your home country of Australia too (Melbourne Times) in addition to close to 100 news stories here in the U.S. I think the reasons for this are two-fold: 1) Park Forest was a random Act of God-type event. Once the story has been written, there isn't a lot that can be done in terms of a follow-up, except for those of us with specialized interest (i.e. How can I get a piece?). The Brenham story has human interest: here is a professional meteorite hunter and his partner who came up with a good strategy -- after ten years of thinking about Brenham -- and were then tremendously successful. Newspapers love big success stories, *and* treasure hunts, *and* local interest -- Steve was born in Kansas, so we have all three. 2) There was no sustained effort to promote the Park Forest story as far as I know, and why should there be? Phil and I have written press releases, sent emails, faxes, and photos all over the country. I hired a P.R. expert as my media advisor; we also have a new website under construction. Steve has done multiple interviews (even I did two interviews) and has staged public events: the big pallasite was on display at the Afton Observatory near Wichita on Saturday evening, and local TV and papers were there to see it. This is a great story, and a fun one, and we've worked really hard at promoting it. These things don't happen by themselves. Glad to see it's working! What's really interesting to me is how a story like this galvanizes the public, and suddenly people are finding meteorites under their beds and scouring the internet for more information about them. I bet all this media attention will generate more than one new meteorite hunter. When people hear about a Million Dollar Rock being found in a farmer's field, a lot of them want to get in on the action : ) My website has been hammered with nearly 2000 hits this weekend (about 300% extra) with people searching for Pallasites, Brenham, etc, etc. I've also had a plethora of emails from people wanting to know how much their meteorites (aka Normal Rocks) are worth. Same here. I've also had several crackpot phone calls from people who have found meteorites. One of the was really scary. The guy said he'd found a 6 by 10 ft. meteorite that looked just like dolomite. D'ya know what dolomite lerks like? he bellowed. He then went on to tell me he'd like me to help him with his book on the other side of evolution which shows that feller Darwin's ideas was based on a load 'o waffles. At that point I excused myself. For our friends in Canada, Discovery Channel Canada will be airing a new piece on Steve and the big Brenham either tonight or tomorrow night on their Daily Planet segment. We believe that it will be shown in the U.S. next week, and will try to get exact showtimes for you. Steve is finally on his way home, so hopefully he'll be able to post to the List soon. Thanks to everyone who sent emails of congratulations. I have been keeping him up-to-date, and we've saved copies off all of your posts. Finally: PLEASE don't forget to send your Joel Schiff gifts to
RE: [meteorite-list] Stones From The Stars: The Unsolved Mysteries ofMeteorites
Hello Darren and list, I think it is a good read, and as you noted, it is (usually) one of the cheaper meteorite books. The following might help you decide if the book may be of interest to you. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick Wichita, Kansas www.meteoritearticles.com Stones From The Stars: The Unsolved Mysteries of Meteorites by Thedore R. LeMaire. Hardcover, 185 pgs, (c) February 1980, Theodore Rogers LeMaire. Chapters include: 1. Lost City, Oklahoma, 2. The Canadian Fireball Procession of 1913, 3. Cosmic Timetables, 4. Sociable Stones and Sky Irons, 5. Drop Zones, 6. Iron Alley, 7. Oregon's Phantom Meteorite, 8. The Kansas Collection, 9. The Hermit Kings, 10. Explosion Craters, 11. A Cosmic Geometry, 12. Outlaw Asteroids, Conclusion: The Siberian Fix, Bibliography, Index. Photos include: Norton 2000lb+ Meteorite Main Mass, Kirin City 3900lb. Meteorite (aka Jilin), The Willamette Meteorite, Hunting for the Port Oxford Meteorite, Ahnighnito in Greenland, Moving Ahnighnito, The Hoba West Meteorite, Barringer (or Meteor) Crater, Henbury Crater, and more. From Dust jacket: In the 18th century, French scientists denied that stones could possibly fall from the sky. Yet modern science still tries to ignore meteorites baffling behavior. They defy the laws of physics by slowing down, speeding up, even making 180 degree course changes, and instead of landing randomly about the globe they favor certain drop zones. Appalachia, Kansas, and the narrow Iron alley of America's West Coast have received repeated bombardments over the centuries, and other regions none at all. For nearly five years. T.R. LemMaire re-examined astronomical journals, searched explorers accounts, and correlated the scientific literature on meteors to reveal a plethora of startling anomalies. Why do Sociable Stone meteorites usually fall near human habitation, while Shy Irons decent in remote desert regions?. when modern experts find it hard to spot authentic meteorites, how did the world's primitive cultures so easily identify stones from heave that fell centuries before? Still more puzzling are the precise geometries that meteorite sites reveal impact craters here and on the moon are not always round, as ballistic theory might predict, but often square or hexagonal! On a map, craters often align themselves along exact rectangles stretching hundred, even thousands of miles. And natural formations like Hudson Bay are now suspected to be vast star-wounds formed millions of years ago. As speculative and adventurous as Chariots of the Gods?, as richly documented as The Bermuda Triangle, STONES FROM THE STARS is a riveting work of fact that serves up dozens of genuine cosmic mysteries - and one single, unthinkable conclusion. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The Search for our Beginning, Hrd Meteorite Book
Hello all again, Thinking on the line of fairly cheap, somewhat out of date and yet a good read meteorite book, I would also suggest The Search for Out Beginning by by Robert Hutchison. 164pgs, (c) 1983, Oxford University Press, 1983, Hardbound with Dust jacket. From the back of the dustj acket We, each of us, have part of a star inside us. The calcium in our bones was made in a star and distributed by the nuclear explosion that ended its life before our sun was lit. Evidence for such an event cannot be found on Earth because it is an active planetTo look back beyond this time we can get a little information from the Moon, but essentially all our knowledge comes from the study of meteorites, mostly pieces of rock but a few of metal, that fall to earth from SpaceIt is ironic that to look into the earth's most distant past we most examine the most recent arrivals on its surface. 53 Photos, 17 of them color. Some of them include: The Discovery of Allen Hills 76009 (page 3), The Passamonte Meteorite in flight (page 8), The Jilin Impact Crater and excavation pit (page 17), Meteor Crater (page 20), Meteor Crater floor (page 21), Kentland shatter cones (page 22), Eskimo Knife Presented to Captain John Ross in Greenland (page 28). 33 charts, graphs or illustrations.p align=centerChapters include: 1. Debris from Space, 2. The Historical Perspective, 3. Fact and theory - our knowledge of the Earth, Moon and inner planets, 4. Meteorite diversity, 5. Chemical similarities and differences, 6. What we learn from meteorites, 7. Our legacy from the stars, 8. Origin of the Earth and of life - a sun thesis. Glossary, Index and Reading Lists. Book writer Dr. Robert Hutchison is the Curator meteorites at the British Museum of Natural History in London. Home of one of the largest meteorite collections in the world. Dr. Hutchison has reached kind of rock star status among the meteorite world and is one of the leading experts. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick Wichita, Kansas www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thunderstones Shooting Stars by Robert T. Dodd
Hello again, Another book, fitting the fairly cheap and good read catagory is Thunderstands Shooting Stars by Robert Dodd. This one, and the two others I posted on, are books that anyone who does not have should search for. Besides Amazon and the book search engines, be sure to check various meteorite dealers. Some of them listed on the Meteorite Exchange's book dealer page, http://www.meteorite.com/book_list.htm. (I noticed I am missing from this list, but I am still in the process of moving so I suggest checking one of the other book sellers, like the Jensens.) Anyone have any other books to suggest, that you think are good reads, and can be found for $20 or less? Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com Thunderstones Shooting Stars by Robert T. Dodd. HARDCOVER (c) 1986, 196 pages, Harvard University Press, Reference Index, Book Index. From dust jacket of soft cover: A streak of light crosses the night sky as a bit of extraterrestrial material falls to Earth. Meteorites, which range from particles of dust to massive chunks of metal and rock, bombard the Earth constantly, adding hundreds of tons of new material to our planet each day. What are these objects? How do we recover and study them? Where do they come from, and what do they tell us about the birth and infancy of the solar system? Why do many scientists now believe that meteorites have played a dramatic albeit occasional, role in the evolution of life on Earth? In Thunderstones and Shooting Stars, Robert T. Dodd gives us an up-to-date report on these questions. He summarizes the evidence that leads scientists to believe that most meteorites come from asteroids, although a few come from the moon and a few more from a planet, probably Mars. He explains how chondrites-the most numerous and primitive of meteorites-contribute to our evolving picture of the early solar system and how some of them may tell us of events that took place beyond the sun and before its birth, Finally he examines the controversial hypothesis that impacts by asteroids or comets have interrupted the evolution of life on Earth, accounting for such geological puzzles as the rapid demise of the dinosaurs. Meteorites have been called the poor man's space probe, for they are the only extraterrestrial rocks that we can collect without benefit of space-craft. This lively and accessible book both illuminates the complex science of meteoritics and conveys a sense of its excitement. University teachers and students will appreciate its synthesis of new research on a broad range of topics, and amateurs will delight in its lucid presentation of a science that is unlocking many mysteries of Earth and space. Notable Photos include: Two page B/W Arizona crater (before page 1), Micrometeorite (page 3), Miller Arkansas Meteorite (page 3), Polished slice of the Mount Edith Iron Meteorite (page 25), Photomicrograph of a thin section of the Manych LL Meteorite (page 26), Polished etched slice of the Thiel Mountains Pallasite (page 27), Slice of the Bloomington, Illinois LL Meteorite (page 39), Abnighite (the tent) Cape Cod meteorite (page 114), Polished Etched slice of the Carbo Medium Octahedrite Metal Meteorite (page 117). Thin Section of the Kenna Ureilite (page 143), Australasian Button tektites, two photos, (page 182), Rizalite, Philippine tektite (page 182), and more. Notable charts and tables include: Relationship between mass and frequency for meteoroids in the vicinity of Earth (page 4), Geographic distribution of meteorites recovered after observed falls (page 12), Comparison of population density and number of recovered falls (page 13), Vital statistics for the sun, planets and moon (page 56), Hypothetical structures of ordinary chondrite parent bodies with different histories (page 90), Tektite strewn fields and impact craters to which each is or may be related (page 181) and more. Mark Bostick's comments: This is a good book on the ABC's of meteorites. Lots of photos, charts and tables. Wrote by Robert T. Dodd who was at the time the Professor of Mineralogy of the State University of New York at Stony Brook. This was Dodd's second meteorite book, following Meteorites: A Petrologic-Chemical Synthesis. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Stones From The Stars: The Unsolved Mysteries of Meteorites
Could you save me $0.50 and tell me the unthinkable conclusion? Thanks Charles O'Dale Meeting Chair Ottawa RASC http://www.ottawa.rasc.ca/astronomy/earth_craters/index.html From: MARK BOSTICK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Stones From The Stars: The Unsolved Mysteries ofMeteorites snip From Dust jacket: snip As speculative and adventurous as Chariots of the Gods?, as richly documented as The Bermuda Triangle, STONES FROM THE STARS is a riveting work of fact that serves up dozens of genuine cosmic mysteries - and one single, unthinkable conclusion. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE : [meteorite-list] GREAT METEORITE HUNTERS
I seems that you have all forgotten Peary who brought back the Tent ( Cape York ), the biggest individual ( more than 30 metric TONS) ever moved by humans. A visit at the meteorite room in the National Museum of Natural History, just by Central Park, NY, NY is highly recommanded. My 2 cents Michel PS: I dream to find a similar one, somewhere...if anyone has a clue where to prospect, please share it with me, off list, other wise I will have to charter a 380! -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Steve Arnold, Chicago!! Envoyé : mercredi 16 novembre 2005 00:11 À : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Objet : [meteorite-list] GREAT METEORITE HUNTERS Hello and good evening list.I guess I did fail to mention other meteorite hunters.And yes I know that it is not exclusive to the USA.There are many from all over the world.But to me,HAAG FARMER,STEVE ARNOLD,(IMB),THE HUPES' to me are the best that I know.I guess that I should have made that point more clear.For that I am sorry.I know that there are more from the USA,but these are the names that get the most attention.And of course NININGER is the best ever.He paved the way for all future hunters.Even when park forest fell,I only found about 50 grams of the meteorite.I am no meteorite hunter and I never will,but I did find park forest specimens.Heck,the first piece I found was a 1.1 gram small fragment which I donated to JOEL SCHIFF because of the great job he has done with meteorite magazine.As far as I know,that is the only piece of park forest he has received.But I will restate that there are many good meteorite hunters out there worldwide.But to me,the names that I have mentioned are the best in the world.I am not trying to take away anything from all the other great hunters.I guess we all owe a debt of graditude to all the hunters worldwide. steve arnold,chicago Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 Illinois Meteorites,Ltd! website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Following people broke list rules yesterday
I am tired of the pot calling the kettle black. Some of us are human, we break rules occasionally. This list will be dead if everyone wants to follow every rule to the tee. If you break a rule, then email someone hours later about how they are breaking the rules, you are a hypocrite. The list rules CLEARLY STATE ALL messages must have something to do with meteorites. Here is a sampling of yesterdays list rule-breakers. Anne Black, - Michael Blood Myself, Michael Farmer Jerry Flaherty gene a dees Darren Garrison There were more, just too many to post here. Not a peep about meteorites in here. -- it is French and it is: hors d'oeuvres. It means literally outside the works meaning it is not part of the main fare, just little things on the side. And usually not cakes. Were you thinking of petits fours, those are bit-size cakes. Anything else? :-) Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com IMPACTIKA at aol.com President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc Not if we've just begun! and even Albert E the great thought as much in the twilight of his life(just begun that is) Jerry Flaherty Nothing about meteorites in here. -- MarkF mafer at imagineopals.com Tue Nov 15 21:25:19 EST 2005 a.. Previous message: [meteorite-list] Hors d'oeuvres (very OT) b.. Next message: [meteorite-list] way to go steve c.. Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] horses hooves - Original Message - From: Impactika at aol.com To: mlblood at cox.net; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 9:07 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Hors d'oeuvres (very OT) Nothing about meteorites here. -- Michael, Don't feel bad about the horse ovaries. I had the same problem ... couldn't get it even close enough for the spell checker ... so I finally remembered it was a two-part word and the first part was hors. The rest was easy. OK ... I have to mention meteorites. I mention them all the time on my Great Dane list and my Chihuahua list but they don't mind ... mostly because I own the lists! Being a dictator has its good moments! When I lived in the East Mountain area east of Albuquerque, the dark skies and altitude made for a great observing site ... like my front yard. One night around 1 AM, Mountain Time, I was looking for meteors to the north of my location. For the last 4 nights and within 2 minutes either side of 1 AM, there would be a small green meteor trail from south to north. This night, I had another one but it disappeared behind some clouds due north of me ... then re-appeared briefly below the cloud then I lost it. Figuring the distance as best I could with only one sighting, I figured it came down 2-to-3 miles north of me and was probably quite small in size. I sure wish I could have found that one or at least had a second sighting on it so I could get a loose fix and verify that I did, indeed, see it penetrate the cloud and come out the bottom. That would have been something, indeed ... but, alas! Maybe next time? Now I live down 4,000 feet lower and the city lights of Albuquerque pretty much mess up the unique observing I used to enjoy at altitude ... but, thanks to heart trouble and several operations, I can no longer breathe well at 7,500+ feet with my oxygen tank. My life used to be much more interesting than this ... so please bear with me. gene a dees Albuquerque, New Mexico USA a.. Previous message: [meteorite-list] way to go steve b.. Next message: [meteorite-list] Ad - 77 Auctions Ending, Great Stuff! hors d'oeuvres... and now Pions c.. Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Nothing in there about meteorites --- - Original Message - From: Gene Dees recon_jones at msn.com To: Jerry A. Wallace jwal2000 at swbell.net Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ad - 77 Auctions Ending, Great Stuff! horsd'oeuvres... Michael wrote: Dean, Are pions anything like peons? They are negatively charged pies. They are violently attracted to the faces of positively charged people ... it's a lot like what goes on in a 3 Stooges pie fight. Now for the on-topic part: A pie in the face is more fun than catching a nickel-iron meteorite of similar mass right in the puss. Never happened to me but, back in my Army days, I was in a freefall tracking position at around 160 miles-per-hour when I caught a June
RE: [meteorite-list] Stones From The Stars: The Unsolved Mysteries ofMeteorites
I have Stones from the Stars and rather liked it. Clearly the author's conclusions are, well, lets say somewhat suspect. However, there is a good deal of historical information in the book that I thought was very interesting. I don't think this is much different, personally, than reading other books that are somewhat older that have older classification schemes that aren't used anymore, some of the older theories of the origin of tektites, etc. Don't let what some of what any author writes turn you off from everything else he or she might have to say. As Mark pointed out, Thunderstones and Shooting Stars and The Search for Our Beginnings are also good books, and you won't find such outlandish conclusions in those as you will in Stones from the Stars. The photo of the discovery of ALHA 76009 in the Search for Our Beginnings is one of my favorite photos. I am lucky enough to own a 44g piece of that meteorite, and from time to time I like to sit holding the meteorite and lose myself in that picture for a while, as I haven't found a meteorite on my own yet . . . . Frank Prochaska -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darren Garrison Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 10:04 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Stones From The Stars: The Unsolved Mysteries ofMeteorites Anyone else read this book? I found a copy on Amazon for 50 cents, and I'm not sure if I got my money's worth. I'm only about half-way through, but the author is consistantly married to the idea that there are these mysterious reasons that stone meteorites choose to land in specific areas of the world, while iron meteorites choose to land in other areas, among other weird ideas. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Following people broke list rules yesterday
This is called OT not continue violation of rules type you put every day a AD of your pieces on Ebay! The Art rules its clear, only 1 AD post for every week. And not say I violated this rules why its impossible senn I put a AD post 1 or 2 times for months, in rare case 3. And stop to search useless excuses. Matteo --- Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: I am tired of the pot calling the kettle black. Some of us are human, we break rules occasionally. This list will be dead if everyone wants to follow every rule to the tee. If you break a rule, then email someone hours later about how they are breaking the rules, you are a hypocrite. The list rules CLEARLY STATE ALL messages must have something to do with meteorites. Here is a sampling of yesterdays list rule-breakers. Anne Black, - Michael Blood Myself, Michael Farmer Jerry Flaherty gene a dees Darren Garrison There were more, just too many to post here. Not a peep about meteorites in here. -- it is French and it is: hors d'oeuvres. It means literally outside the works meaning it is not part of the main fare, just little things on the side. And usually not cakes. Were you thinking of petits fours, those are bit-size cakes. Anything else? :-) Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com IMPACTIKA at aol.com President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc Not if we've just begun! and even Albert E the great thought as much in the twilight of his life(just begun that is) Jerry Flaherty Nothing about meteorites in here. -- MarkF mafer at imagineopals.com Tue Nov 15 21:25:19 EST 2005 a.. Previous message: [meteorite-list] Hors d'oeuvres (very OT) b.. Next message: [meteorite-list] way to go steve c.. Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] horses hooves - Original Message - From: Impactika at aol.com To: mlblood at cox.net; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 9:07 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Hors d'oeuvres (very OT) Nothing about meteorites here. -- Michael, Don't feel bad about the horse ovaries. I had the same problem ... couldn't get it even close enough for the spell checker ... so I finally remembered it was a two-part word and the first part was hors. The rest was easy. OK ... I have to mention meteorites. I mention them all the time on my Great Dane list and my Chihuahua list but they don't mind ... mostly because I own the lists! Being a dictator has its good moments! When I lived in the East Mountain area east of Albuquerque, the dark skies and altitude made for a great observing site ... like my front yard. One night around 1 AM, Mountain Time, I was looking for meteors to the north of my location. For the last 4 nights and within 2 minutes either side of 1 AM, there would be a small green meteor trail from south to north. This night, I had another one but it disappeared behind some clouds due north of me ... then re-appeared briefly below the cloud then I lost it. Figuring the distance as best I could with only one sighting, I figured it came down 2-to-3 miles north of me and was probably quite small in size. I sure wish I could have found that one or at least had a second sighting on it so I could get a loose fix and verify that I did, indeed, see it penetrate the cloud and come out the bottom. That would have been something, indeed ... but, alas! Maybe next time? Now I live down 4,000 feet lower and the city lights of Albuquerque pretty much mess up the unique observing I used to enjoy at altitude ... but, thanks to heart trouble and several operations, I can no longer breathe well at 7,500+ feet with my oxygen tank. My life used to be much more interesting than this ... so please bear with me. gene a dees Albuquerque, New Mexico USA a.. Previous message: [meteorite-list] way to go steve b.. Next message: [meteorite-list] Ad - 77 Auctions Ending, Great Stuff! hors d'oeuvres... and now Pions c.. Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Nothing in there about meteorites --- - Original Message - From: Gene Dees recon_jones at msn.com To: Jerry A. Wallace jwal2000 at swbell.net Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ad - 77 Auctions Ending, Great
[meteorite-list] Prospecting for meteorites
I dream to find a similar one, somewhere ... if anyone has a clue where to prospect, please share it with me, off list, other wise I will have to charter a 380! Bonjour Michel, hello List, The enormous Chinguetti main mass (said to be 100 m long and 45 m high) in the desert of Adrar (Mauritania) is still waiting for you to go and get it ;-) Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Following people broke list rules yesterday
Matteo Matteo Matteo, coming from a virus like you, one who was kicked off the list, but came back under several different names, it seem Art decided it would be esier to let you back than try removing new names every day. You have no room to talk. You were the talk of the town in Munich because you are a buffoon, and everyone loves to make fun of you. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 9:20 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Following people broke list rules yesterday This is called OT not continue violation of rules type you put every day a AD of your pieces on Ebay! The Art rules its clear, only 1 AD post for every week. And not say I violated this rules why its impossible senn I put a AD post 1 or 2 times for months, in rare case 3. And stop to search useless excuses. Matteo --- Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: I am tired of the pot calling the kettle black. Some of us are human, we break rules occasionally. This list will be dead if everyone wants to follow every rule to the tee. If you break a rule, then email someone hours later about how they are breaking the rules, you are a hypocrite. The list rules CLEARLY STATE ALL messages must have something to do with meteorites. Here is a sampling of yesterdays list rule-breakers. Anne Black, - Michael Blood Myself, Michael Farmer Jerry Flaherty gene a dees Darren Garrison There were more, just too many to post here. Not a peep about meteorites in here. -- it is French and it is: hors d'oeuvres. It means literally outside the works meaning it is not part of the main fare, just little things on the side. And usually not cakes. Were you thinking of petits fours, those are bit-size cakes. Anything else? :-) Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com IMPACTIKA at aol.com President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc Not if we've just begun! and even Albert E the great thought as much in the twilight of his life(just begun that is) Jerry Flaherty Nothing about meteorites in here. -- MarkF mafer at imagineopals.com Tue Nov 15 21:25:19 EST 2005 a.. Previous message: [meteorite-list] Hors d'oeuvres (very OT) b.. Next message: [meteorite-list] way to go steve c.. Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] horses hooves - Original Message - From: Impactika at aol.com To: mlblood at cox.net; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 9:07 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Hors d'oeuvres (very OT) Nothing about meteorites here. -- Michael, Don't feel bad about the horse ovaries. I had the same problem ... couldn't get it even close enough for the spell checker ... so I finally remembered it was a two-part word and the first part was hors. The rest was easy. OK ... I have to mention meteorites. I mention them all the time on my Great Dane list and my Chihuahua list but they don't mind ... mostly because I own the lists! Being a dictator has its good moments! When I lived in the East Mountain area east of Albuquerque, the dark skies and altitude made for a great observing site ... like my front yard. One night around 1 AM, Mountain Time, I was looking for meteors to the north of my location. For the last 4 nights and within 2 minutes either side of 1 AM, there would be a small green meteor trail from south to north. This night, I had another one but it disappeared behind some clouds due north of me ... then re-appeared briefly below the cloud then I lost it. Figuring the distance as best I could with only one sighting, I figured it came down 2-to-3 miles north of me and was probably quite small in size. I sure wish I could have found that one or at least had a second sighting on it so I could get a loose fix and verify that I did, indeed, see it penetrate the cloud and come out the bottom. That would have been something, indeed ... but, alas! Maybe next time? Now I live down 4,000 feet lower and the city lights of Albuquerque pretty much mess up the unique observing I used to enjoy at altitude ... but, thanks to heart trouble and several operations, I can no longer breathe well at 7,500+ feet with my oxygen tank. My life used to be much more interesting than this ... so please bear with me. gene a dees Albuquerque, New Mexico USA a.. Previous message: [meteorite-list] way to go steve b.. Next message: [meteorite-list] Ad - 77 Auctions Ending, Great Stuff! hors d'oeuvres... and now Pions c.. Messages sorted
Re: [meteorite-list] Following people broke list rules yesterday
You have no room to talk. You were the talk of the town in Munich because you are a buffoon, and everyone loves to make fun of you. Mike Farmer For the moment with this description I see only you seen you speack to come here and broken the face to me but for the moment I not see you...words wordss wordanother, you say have put me in block list, why you continue to answer to me in private? Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Stones From The Stars: The Unsolved Mysteries ofMeteorites
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 08:13:13 -0800, Frank Prochaska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have Stones from the Stars and rather liked it. Clearly the author's conclusions are, well, lets say somewhat suspect. However, there is a good deal of historical information in the book that I thought was very interesting. I don't think this is much different, personally, than reading other books that are somewhat older that have older classification schemes that aren't used anymore, some of the older theories of the origin of tektites, etc. Don't let what some of what any author writes turn you off from everything else he or she might have to say. The problem is, the outlandishness of his claims make me question the accuracy of the historical information in the book. Evangelists for any out there idea are not unknown to tweak the facts to better fit their conclusions. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] RE: Ad - 77 Auctions Ending, Great Stuff!
Christian A. wrote: Let me know if we use this list to discuss the matter of meteorites or if we use that list for fighting against each other ... We are members here from Europe and we are not award, we don't practice this way of life. I think I speak for many of the European guys. Nobody, really nobody, and again really nobody of us is interested in this stuff. Christian, trying to herd cats again? On a serious note, could you please and most kindly repost the question on carbonaceous chondrites vs. rumurutiites and what answers you finally arrived at - I hope that could be revisited, especially if it went off list as you might be suggesting. Finally - How about a meteorite competition putting the usually (???) well behaved European guys vs. the frequently chaotic North Americans guys to a real test ... to see who comes up with the best informative and most entertaining answers. That could be fun for everyone. Lots of fun. One vote in favor of the Meteorite Olympiad (And a Meteorite-Bee for those of us enjoying spelling and such). Think about it. A nice way to promote the excitement of our favorite theme and happily burn some time that otherwise will inevitably be used for the contencious posts. First submissions: Where does the earth have diogenite-like material in the crust? How about pallasitic material somewhere in the mantle...and at what depth is it believed still liquified according to what theory? How do you spell Ureilite and how about a story on the man behind the name? Biggest stone strewn field? Finest Thompson-Widmanstatten figures. Smallest country with a NomCom meteorite? What happens when you warm chondrules in water in a vacuum? Highest gold content in a meteorite? Most reduced meteorite and theory on why? Is a meteorite more likely to appear at the equator or at a pole and why? I nominate Bernd and Sterling as judges, so probably they can't participate in the first round. Let the games begin. Saludos, Doug (enjoying living on top of one big mess of differentiated meteorites, but they do tend to warp my mind!) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Brenham Follow-on Effect
Sterling posted: I think the most obvious reason for the lack of press focus on Park Forest (March 26/27, 2003) is the fact that the invasion of Iraq, or Gulf War II, commenced on March 20, 2003 and was, at the time of Park Forest Good point. I didn't recall that both events happened at roughly the same time. As for the character of the news story, the media is far more interested in Act of God events than human accomplishments, especially scientific ones. On a national level perhaps. I was referring to state-wide news and did not clarify that. Local TV and newspapers in Kansas were MUCH more interested in Steve's Brenham story than any world events. This clearly illustrated by the fact that Steve was the lead story on the evening news the same day that we put out the press release and carried the front page of the Saturday Wichita Eagle. We chose to break the story with local media first, generate local interest, and then get the story to the AP so it would go national. That's exactly what happened. And no amount of press releases and promotion would make finding a new main mass of Brenham a news story if it were competing against, say, the D-Day landing or a major act of terrorism or a good-sized hurricane. Had we been competing against D-Day any fool can see we wouldn't have been on the front page, but Brenham is still a news-worthy story, and still would have received coverage. Science sections need science stories whether or not there is a war on. But getting there is mostly a matter of luck. Well, thanks for making us feel good about all our hard work. Always nice to receive feedback from an expert. A great story will get out into the media if it's properly promoted, and Steve and Phil's discovery is a great story. We certainly had luck on our side in that we were not competing against any major news events, but we also generated the initial stories ourselves and were able to track them very clearly, as different press releases went to different media outlets at different times. FYI it was a personal friend of mine who put The Wichita Eagle journalist in touch with me (that was networking, not luck). She gave Steve the cover story. We also sent press releases to specific people in Kansas TV. One of them called me less than five minutes after receiving the release, and scheduled an interview for that very evening. The cover story, combined with the TV piece, had a high enough profile to get picked up by the AP. That was promotion, not luck. Geoff N. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Steve Arnold
Steve I just wanted say congratulations on your wonderful find! I am hoping to see you with the beauty in Tucson this year! Sincerely, Dana Hawn __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE : [meteorite-list] Prospecting for meteorites
Thanks Bernd, Yes it is an amazing story. It has now been proved that this meteorite is a tale. A nice book in French Le fer de Dieu ( Actes Sud editor) explains all the searches of this object, book by Théodore Monod and Brigite Zanda. ( both Muséum National d'Histoire Naturelle de Paris). Théodore spend most of his life in the Sahara and collected 20 000 scientific specimen, including one Meteorite. Best regards Michel. -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de [EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : mercredi 16 novembre 2005 17:24 À : Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Objet : [meteorite-list] Prospecting for meteorites I dream to find a similar one, somewhere ... if anyone has a clue where to prospect, please share it with me, off list, other wise I will have to charter a 380! Bonjour Michel, hello List, The enormous Chinguetti main mass (said to be 100 m long and 45 m high) in the desert of Adrar (Mauritania) is still waiting for you to go and get it ;-) Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Book Wasson, Meteorites 1974
Hi, I have a bibliophilic question too. I just sold my Wasson, , John T.: Meteorites; Classification and Properties. SpringerVerlag, New York, 1974 That orange hardcover standard work. But I'm not sure about, which price I should ask, as I don't know anymore, what I paid for, nor am I able to find it in the antiquarian search engines to see an actual price. Thanks! Martin Buckleboo __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Book Wasson, Meteorites 1974
Hi Martin, I bought my copy a while ago, maybe from Mark Bostick. If so, he might know what it is worth, well at least what he charged me anyway. I think I paid maybe $40-$60 or so for it, but I think it is worth much more than that. The tables of bulk analysis of meteorites in the book are an excellent resource, and I used the one from this very book in my exploration of the Hraschina iron featured in my October Accretion Desk article at http://www.MeteoriteTimes.com Here is the direct link to the article in case anyone needs some reading material: http://www.meteoritetimes.com/Back_Links/2005/October/Accretion_Desk.htm cheers, Martin On 11/16/05, Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have a bibliophilic question too. I just sold my Wasson, , John T.: Meteorites; Classification and Properties. SpringerVerlag, New York, 1974 That orange hardcover standard work. But I'm not sure about, which price I should ask, as I don't know anymore, what I paid for, nor am I able to find it in the antiquarian search engines to see an actual price. Thanks! Martin Buckleboo __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Book Wasson, Meteorites 1974
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 20:24:59 +0100, Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have a bibliophilic question too. I just sold my Wasson, , John T.: Meteorites; Classification and Properties. SpringerVerlag, New York, 1974 That orange hardcover standard work. But I'm not sure about, which price I should ask, as I don't know anymore, what I paid for, nor am I able to find it in the antiquarian search engines to see an actual price. WWW.fetchbookinfo.com has it. It's a great resource, but it doesn't list things like condition that might be important for someone wanting something more than a reading copy (but most grading you find listed, when available, is probably best taken with a few grains of salt anyway). http://www.fetchbook.info/compare.do?search=0387067442 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] RE: Meteorite Competition was Ad - 77...
Doug, Great idea. As a newbie to meteorite collecting, it would be an educational experience for me and others too, I'm sure. I hope the rest of the list agrees. Regards, Dave\ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] RE: Ad - 77 Auctions Ending, Great Stuff! Christian A. wrote: Let me know if we use this list to discuss the matter of meteorites or if we use that list for fighting against each other ... We are members here from Europe and we are not award, we don't practice this way of life. I think I speak for many of the European guys. Nobody, really nobody, and again really nobody of us is interested in this stuff. Christian, trying to herd cats again? On a serious note, could you please and most kindly repost the question on carbonaceous chondrites vs. rumurutiites and what answers you finally arrived at - I hope that could be revisited, especially if it went off list as you might be suggesting. Finally - How about a meteorite competition putting the usually (???) well behaved European guys vs. the frequently chaotic North Americans guys to a real test ... to see who comes up with the best informative and most entertaining answers. That could be fun for everyone. Lots of fun. One vote in favor of the Meteorite Olympiad (And a Meteorite-Bee for those of us enjoying spelling and such). Think about it. A nice way to promote the excitement of our favorite theme and happily burn some time that otherwise will inevitably be used for the contencious posts. First submissions: Where does the earth have diogenite-like material in the crust? How about pallasitic material somewhere in the mantle...and at what depth is it believed still liquified according to what theory? How do you spell Ureilite and how about a story on the man behind the name? Biggest stone strewn field? Finest Thompson-Widmanstatten figures. Smallest country with a NomCom meteorite? What happens when you warm chondrules in water in a vacuum? Highest gold content in a meteorite? Most reduced meteorite and theory on why? Is a meteorite more likely to appear at the equator or at a pole and why? I nominate Bernd and Sterling as judges, so probably they can't participate in the first round. Let the games begin. Saludos, Doug (enjoying living on top of one big mess of differentiated meteorites, but they do tend to warp my mind!) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.13.3/171 - Release Date: 11/15/2005 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Book Wasson, Meteorites 1974
Hi Martin List I usually retail it for $100 as it is a hard book to find. If you look you will see I list it on my rare books page as a R4. http://jensenmeteorites.com/Rarebooks.htm I do have a spare copy of it for sale if anyone is interested. Mike -- Mike Jensen IMCA 4264 Jensen Meteorites 16730 E Ada PL Aurora, CO 80017-3137 303-337-4361 website: www.jensenmeteorites.com Hi, I have a bibliophilic question too. I just sold my Wasson, , John T.: Meteorites; Classification and Properties. SpringerVerlag, New York, 1974 That orange hardcover standard work. But I'm not sure about, which price I should ask, as I don't know anymore, what I paid for, nor am I able to find it in the antiquarian search engines to see an actual price. Thanks! Martin Buckleboo __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Book Wasson, Meteorites 1974
Hi Darren Just wanted to let you know my experiences with trying to get books off of these types of sites. By these types I mean the new book retailers. This book is long out of print and for some reason they list them as still available. In fact you can order them and they will even send you a confirmation. But eventually they will cancel the order because they cannot get the bookbecause it is out of print. They then don't change the listing to show this fact. Can be quite frustrating if you really wanted the book. The only way to get this book is from a good used book dealer. Mike -- Mike Jensen IMCA 4264 Jensen Meteorites 16730 E Ada PL Aurora, CO 80017-3137 303-337-4361 website: www.jensenmeteorites.com On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 20:24:59 +0100, Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have a bibliophilic question too. I just sold my Wasson, , John T.: Meteorites; Classification and Properties. SpringerVerlag, New York, 1974 That orange hardcover standard work. But I'm not sure about, which price I should ask, as I don't know anymore, what I paid for, nor am I able to find it in the antiquarian search engines to see an actual price. WWW.fetchbookinfo.com has it. It's a great resource, but it doesn't list things like condition that might be important for someone wanting something more than a reading copy (but most grading you find listed, when available, is probably best taken with a few grains of salt anyway). http://www.fetchbook.info/compare.do?search=0387067442 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] More Aldama (b) found
News! The meteorite fragments I recovered in April on my Mexico expedition have been paired. It is the Aldama (b). From the catalogue - TKW 66g, H5, W3. I now have the main mass. Hi res picture of fragments: http://www.texasmeteoritelab.com/aldama_b/aldama_stone2.jpg Original expedition notes are here: http://imca.repetti.net/metinfo/metadventures/Morito.html -mt -- McCartneyTaylor, IMCA 2760 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad - METEORITE Magazine Feb 2003 Issue On The Road To Safsaf
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[meteorite-list] India`s Lonar Impact Crater in Peril
Dear List, This was forwarded to me ; the persons on the list that are interested in impact craters may find this of interest. Best, Dirk Ross...Tokyo Lonar's declining salinity cause for worry, say experts Correspondent : G. Chandrashekhar SOURCE : The Indian Express, Wednesday, October 19, 2005 Pune, October 18: LONAR lake, Buldhana district's unique geological feature, has fascinated scientists for decades. The formation of the saline lake has been widely attributed to a meteor impact. But recent studies of the water by scientists from Agharkar Research Institute (ARI), Pune, say the lake is losing its unique chemical properties to human interference. Also, the salinity has been decreasing at an alarming rate, which may lead to extinction of several microbial species that thrive in it. ''In 10 years, the salinity has come down drastically - tenth of what it used to be,'' says ARI microbiologist Pradnya Kanekar. The studies were conducted between November 1993 and January 2002. A concerned Kanekar says the ph rate (which determines the acidic or alkaline nature of a substance) has come down. ''It will adversely affect the unique ecosystem of the lake. Many varieties of halophilic (salt loving) and alkaliphilic (alkaline system loving) microbes survive in the water. They will be endangered by the change.'' She warns, '' Lonar will become like any freshwater lake in the region.'' The lake is fed by many sweetwater springs that originate at the top of the hills surrounding the lake. Kanekar says human interference like removal of salt from the lake's bed during summer and pipes that discharge fresh water into it could be the reasons for the salinity going down. Her concern is shared by Geological Survey of India's senior deputy director-general (operations) and Lonar expert K.G. Bhoskar, who is likely to initiate a new study. ''Usually, the salinity changes due to rain. However, if there has been a steady decline in salinity, it is cause for concern,'' said Bhoskar. But there are bureaucratic wheels that will have to roll. ''We can only make suggestions to the government which will have to take appropriate action,'' he added. Lonar's birth LONAR is the only crater lake found in basaltic rock. It is suspected to have been formed after a meteor impact. The saline lake is 100 meters deep with a diameter of 1,830 meters. Studies by GSI geologists and scientists the world over indicate that the lake was formed some 15,000 to 30,000 years ago. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Following people broke list rules yesterday
woops! busted! list police got me. - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 11:09 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Following people broke list rules yesterday I am tired of the pot calling the kettle black. Some of us are human, we break rules occasionally. This list will be dead if everyone wants to follow every rule to the tee. If you break a rule, then email someone hours later about how they are breaking the rules, you are a hypocrite. The list rules CLEARLY STATE ALL messages must have something to do with meteorites. Here is a sampling of yesterdays list rule-breakers. Anne Black, - Michael Blood Myself, Michael Farmer Jerry Flaherty gene a dees Darren Garrison There were more, just too many to post here. Not a peep about meteorites in here. -- it is French and it is: hors d'oeuvres. It means literally outside the works meaning it is not part of the main fare, just little things on the side. And usually not cakes. Were you thinking of petits fours, those are bit-size cakes. Anything else? :-) Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com IMPACTIKA at aol.com President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc Not if we've just begun! and even Albert E the great thought as much in the twilight of his life(just begun that is) Jerry Flaherty Nothing about meteorites in here. -- MarkF mafer at imagineopals.com Tue Nov 15 21:25:19 EST 2005 a.. Previous message: [meteorite-list] Hors d'oeuvres (very OT) b.. Next message: [meteorite-list] way to go steve c.. Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] -- -- horses hooves - Original Message - From: Impactika at aol.com To: mlblood at cox.net; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 9:07 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Hors d'oeuvres (very OT) Nothing about meteorites here. -- Michael, Don't feel bad about the horse ovaries. I had the same problem ... couldn't get it even close enough for the spell checker ... so I finally remembered it was a two-part word and the first part was hors. The rest was easy. OK ... I have to mention meteorites. I mention them all the time on my Great Dane list and my Chihuahua list but they don't mind ... mostly because I own the lists! Being a dictator has its good moments! When I lived in the East Mountain area east of Albuquerque, the dark skies and altitude made for a great observing site ... like my front yard. One night around 1 AM, Mountain Time, I was looking for meteors to the north of my location. For the last 4 nights and within 2 minutes either side of 1 AM, there would be a small green meteor trail from south to north. This night, I had another one but it disappeared behind some clouds due north of me ... then re-appeared briefly below the cloud then I lost it. Figuring the distance as best I could with only one sighting, I figured it came down 2-to-3 miles north of me and was probably quite small in size. I sure wish I could have found that one or at least had a second sighting on it so I could get a loose fix and verify that I did, indeed, see it penetrate the cloud and come out the bottom. That would have been something, indeed ... but, alas! Maybe next time? Now I live down 4,000 feet lower and the city lights of Albuquerque pretty much mess up the unique observing I used to enjoy at altitude ... but, thanks to heart trouble and several operations, I can no longer breathe well at 7,500+ feet with my oxygen tank. My life used to be much more interesting than this ... so please bear with me. gene a dees Albuquerque, New Mexico USA -- -- a.. Previous message: [meteorite-list] way to go steve b.. Next message: [meteorite-list] Ad - 77 Auctions Ending, Great Stuff! hors d'oeuvres... and now Pions c.. Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] -- -- Nothing in there about meteorites -- - - Original Message - From: Gene Dees recon_jones at msn.com To: Jerry A. Wallace jwal2000 at swbell.net Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ad - 77 Auctions Ending, Great Stuff! horsd'oeuvres... Michael wrote: Dean, Are pions anything like peons? They are negatively charged pies. They are violently attracted to the faces
[meteorite-list] Great ball of fire out west
http://cobar.yourguide.com.au/detail.asp?class=newssubclass=localcategory=general%20newsstory_id=439212y=2005m=11 Great ball of fire out west Thursday, 17 November 2005 Cobar and district farming areas to the north were shaken last Wednesday evening by an unusual blasting event which left residents wondering whether a small earth tremor or mine cave-in had occurred. The sudden explosion at 6.34pm was followed immediately by a loud rumbling noise, rising smoke and a strange cloud formation resembling a jet aircraft's vapour trail. Police and emergency services in Cobar initially received reports from district landholders and travellers on the Kidman Way of an aerial explosion over the MacKay family's 'Yandilla Station' near the Merrieree Hills, 70kms north of the town. Ambulance and fire units raced to the area but were unable to locate the source of the blast. Cobar's Meteorology Station later reported the unusual incident probably involved a meteorite or fire ball exploding as it plunged through the atmosphere. A meteorology spokesperson said the explosion and its after effects may have been caused by a meteor shower called the Southern Taurids which crosses the Earth's gravitational path on an annual basis during early November. The MacKay family of ‘Yandilla Station' were eye-witnesses to the phenomen which occurred directly over their Kidman Way homestead and rattled every window in the recently renovated house. Tammy MacKay told the Cobar Age she was pegging clothes when she heard a big bang overhead and then a crackle and fizzle noise. She looked up to see smoke in the sky and called out for her husband and sons. Dean MacKay said at first the family thought the noise like a sonic boom and smoke ring belonged to an aeroplane breaking up in the sky. The boys and I were in the house when it started to shake and the windows were rattling so we rushed out to see the big smoke ring, he said. The house really did shake and I was surprised the sonic-type boom didn't break the windows - it was a really deep sound and very frightening. We rang the Cobar Police but the call was diverted to Bourke where they said they had already had a few reports. Mr MacKay said he hoped a search of ‘Yandilla' would eventually turn-up some meteorite fragments or other evidence of the mid-air explosion. Another eye witness was grazier Robert Neate of ‘Mopone Station' also north of Cobar. Mr Neate who was working near his homestead dam said he heard a loud rumble at 6.34pm and looking up saw an unusual twisted cloud similar to an aeroplane's vapour trail and heard strange twirling noises like objects falling from the sky. At first I thought it was a mine blast but then I realised the noise came from the wrong direction, he said. I must admit I did feel uneasy as I watched the event unfold. Both the MacKay family and Mr Neate said the strange cloud formation was visible for nearly three hours. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] More Aldama (b) found
In a message dated 11/16/2005 7:35:47 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: News! The meteorite fragments I recovered in April on my Mexico expedition have been paired. It is the Aldama (b). From the catalogue - TKW 66g, H5, W3. I now have the main mass. Hi res picture of fragments: http://www.texasmeteoritelab.com/aldama_b/aldama_stone2.jpg Original expedition notes are here: http://imca.repetti.net/metinfo/metadventures/Morito.html -mt -- McCartneyTaylor, IMCA 2760 -- - GREAT NEWS Thanks McCartney. anybody wants some? I do have some very nice pieces. Again thanks McCartney. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
