Re: [meteorite-list] The Sniper Mentality

2010-03-18 Thread countdeiro
Excellent post, Dave
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-Original Message-
From: Dave Myers whitefalcons...@yahoo.com
Sent: Mar 18, 2010 1:57 AM
To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Richard Kowalski 
damoc...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The Sniper Mentality

Hey Richard,

My expertise is ART, moderan art Once at a online Auction. I seen a 
painting, That I knew was a $5,000.-$7,000. painting. The est. was only 
$100.-200. dollars, I knew this painting was placed in the wrong category
at this auction. So, most people did not go into this category looking for 
good paintings!

But I knew a few might! So I waited, till the end of the auction, and put in 
my bid, seconds before it ended! I got this painting for only $168.00
dollars.

When it comes to collecting, If you know the value of what is for sale!
(or just love it, and have to have it) 
and you know it is under valued, (if you really want it cheap) YOU SNIPE IT!  
ME myself could never afford to pay gallery price!

I do not know enough about meteorites, and am not in the position to do so 
now, But if I could, YES, ON A, ON LINE AUCTION, THAT I KNEW WAS selling at a 
fraction of the price ...i would snipe every time.

Only because of my life-long art research, and these opportunities, is my a
apt. a little modern art museum.   I wish 25 years ago I know about 
meteorites! 


Dave Myers




--- On Wed, 3/17/10, Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] The Sniper Mentality
 To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 11:58 PM
 This mentality, waiting until the
 last few seconds before bidding, is something I just don't
 get. Maybe someone can explain it to me.
 
 I bid for lots on ebay just like I do when I bid at a real
 auction. I set in my head what I believe the value of an
 item and what I have available in my budget to bid for that
 item. I then bid that much and no more. If I get the item,
 great. If not, someone wanted it more and we're willing to
 pay more for the item...
 
 While I will sometimes raise my ebay bid a little before
 the end of the auction, I really don't understand the idea
 of sitting there and in the last second or two, to try to
 jam in bids high enough to win the item.
 
 Do snipers really want the item or are they just trying to
 screw others out of the item? Are they just trying to get
 the item at a lower price, thinking that their competitors
 will just rebid again, upping the price?
 
 I see this on meteorite auctions every so often, but much
 more often on the Daguerreotypes I bid on. The reason I was
 reminded of it was a lot I just lost out on. There wasn't
 just one sniper, but two. The both bid at the exact same
 time, 2 seconds before the auction ended...
 
 As I said, it doesn't mater that I lost the lot. It went
 for more than I was willing to pay, so I wouldn't have rebid
 even if I could.
 
 Possibly someone can explain what is gained by bidding like
 this instead of just bidding what you think it's worth and
 letting it go for that...
 
 I'd really like to see ebay eliminate this foolery. It'd be
 pretty simple. Any bids that occur within one minute of the
 closing time of the auction automatically resets the end
 time by 10 minutes, or 30 minutes. The snipers games are
 eliminated and the dealers (and ebay) gets more profits
 because the auction remains open for the bidding to continue
 to higher levels. Just like in a real live auction.
 
 Thanks
 
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 Richard Kowalski
 Full Moon Photography
 IMCA #1081
 
 
       
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Re: [meteorite-list] Need free Lunar micro

2010-03-18 Thread Pete Pete

Would his name be Billy, by chance?
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/7421885/Little-Billys-letters-dupe-the-great-and-the-good.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/7421885/Little-Billys-letters-dupe-the-great-and-the-good.html
 
 
Cheers,
Pete
 



 From: dak_...@live.concordia.ca
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:25:26 +
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Need free Lunar micro

 Good day all,

 I received a rather unusual phone call at work (I work in a planetarium) 
 yesterday: a 10 year old boy suffered a unspecified family trauma and getting 
 him to speak (mother tongue is French) is practically impossible. However, a 
 writer and social activist, the lady who called, seems to be slowly getting 
 through. He has asked her for a moon rock and she called expecting that moon 
 rocks were plentiful and cheap; she quickly became disabused of the notion.

 Since we do sell meteorites, I suggested a small one which she is willing to 
 pay out of her own pocket. I have to write a short note as an astronomer 
 certifying it is a rock from space.

 Then I thought of this group: would someone be willing to donate a lunar 
 micro to the cause ? That would be greatly appreciated.

 Please contact me off-list if interested.

 Thank you

 Andre Bordeleau
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Re: [meteorite-list] $122.23 per gram

2010-03-18 Thread star_wars_collector
There has been just over 3kg recovered.
I don't have the exact number in memory, but I want to say its like 3086g

Greg
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-Original Message-
From: Mark Bowling mina...@yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:58:34 
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] $122.23 per gram

Shawn,

As far as I know, all that has been found is what is recorded in the Monograph 
and addendum.  Anybody know any different???  I'm curious to know more about 
the Galleta flat find(s?) too.

Clear skies and happy hunting,
Mark B.
Sunburned from Gold Basin, AZ!



- Original Message 
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Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 4:57:56 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] $122.23 per gram

Hello Richard and List,
 
The Whetstone Mountains slice that sold for $935 at 7.67g seem like a good 
price to me and the seller did well on eBay. What I know so far about the 
Whetstone Mountains meteorite is that its an H5 and the KTW to date is 2.14 
kg. Lastly, Has there been any discoveries or interesting associations with 
Whetstone Mountains meteorite or is it just another H5 meteorite?
 
Shawn Alan

[meteorite-list] $122.23 per gram
Richard Kowalski damoclid at yahoo.com 
Wed Mar 17 19:25:05 EDT 2010 

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The 7.67g full slice of Whetstone Mountains that was on ebay sold for $935. 
Including the cost of shipping, that works out to be $122.23 per gram. I 
usually don't pay too much attention to the price for new falls, but this seems 
to be less than what I was expecting considering how much interest this fall 
generated and how little has been found. 


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[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - March 18, 2010

2010-03-18 Thread michael
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/March_18_2010.html

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[meteorite-list] March Meteorite-Times is now up

2010-03-18 Thread Paul Harris

Hello Everyone,

The March issue of Meteorite-Times is now up.
http://www.meteorite-times.com/meteorite_frame.htm

A huge thanks to all the writers as aways and a thank you to Count Guido 
Deiro for being this month's Meteorite Person and sharing the story of 
his first meteorite find with Sonny and Brix.


Enjoy,

Paul and Jim

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Re: [meteorite-list] The Sniper Mentality

2010-03-18 Thread tracy latimer

I vary in my bidding methods, depending on the current bid, how many people are 
bidding, how much I want the item...  People snipe so that they have the best 
chance of getting the item for as cheaply as possible.  Usually I bid my 
maximum as late as possible; if I can, manually sniping in the last few 
seconds.  This puts my bid in late enough so that others can't 'top' it or 
raise it and make me pay more.  I may put in an absentee bid early on if I know 
I won't be online when the auction is closing.  I don't always win my item, but 
often enough I do, and for less than I was willing to pay, that it works for me.

That's my story, and I'm stickin' to it. ;)

Best!
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[meteorite-list] TEST

2010-03-18 Thread valparint
Hi

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Re: [meteorite-list] Ad Ebay sellers must see Work Around

2010-03-18 Thread valparint
Eric,

Do an ebay search for 'coupon' and you'll get over 100,000 items. How would 
Joe's Meteorites 10% off coupon be different than Victoria Secret Free 
undies panty coupon + $10 OFF bra (auction currently on ebay with 2 minutes 
left to go - snipers, get ready!!)

Paul




Unfortunately this would not work because it seems they've thought of 
everything... Everything to limit the seller anyway.

...You can't refer to or promote your personal website (including links 
to home page web addresses that promote outside-of-eBay websites), sales 
outside of eBay, or other businesses...

Listing an item and then being paid outside the eBay system. - Not allowed

and

...We don't allow our members to use eBay to contact each other to make 
offers to buy or sell items outside of eBay


Regards,
Eric

**

What if a seller sold an option to buy instead of the item itself? For 
example, suppose you have a meteorite that you expect to go for $1,000. You 
create a nice certificate, suitable for framing, that says the winner can buy 
your meteorite at 10 times the price paid for the certificate. Then, you 
auction the certificate. You would expect the certificate to sell for about 
$100, which is what ebay would calculate their FVF on, so they get nine bucks.

 Bid increments would run from 25 cents to a dollar, which equates to 2.50 and 
 10.00, respectively, when the option is exercised. Of course, the buyer would 
 get credit for the price of the certificate.

 Best of all, ebay is counter-screwed.



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Re: [meteorite-list] QUESTION RE METEORITES AND POP CULTURE

2010-03-18 Thread Richard Kowalski
Hey Darryl.

I was searching something else and found a site called tv.com

On a whim I entered meteorite in the search box and it returned 140 TV episodes 
with that term. Many are cartoons...


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Re: [meteorite-list] QUESTION RE METEORITES AND POP CULTURE

2010-03-18 Thread Richard Kowalski
OK Carl2,

I found this episode on that same tv.com. It was called The Beeping Rock. It 
apparently about a Lunar sold for $14...

http://www.tv.com/green-acres/the-beeping-rock/episode/32483/recap.html?tag=episode_recap;recap


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--- On Fri, 3/12/10, Carl 's carloselgua...@hotmail.com wrote:

 From: Carl 's carloselgua...@hotmail.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] QUESTION RE METEORITES AND POP CULTURE
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Friday, March 12, 2010, 7:09 PM
 
 
 Hi Darren,
 
 Here's another you might hunt for. I saw a portion of an
 episode of Green Acres recently. Someone found a huge chunk
 of Lunar meteorite and ,at night, the thing would make a
 noise. I forgot how it ended but I think the rock was
 brought into a lab to be tested.
 
 Carl2
 
 Darren wrote:
 I found that aforementioned Waltons episode:
 
 http://www.sendspace.com/file/oj2zbd
 
     
 
       
   
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Re: [meteorite-list] QUESTION RE METEORITES AND POP CULTURE

2010-03-18 Thread Richard Kowalski
Sorry. Guess I need to catch up on the thread before I post.

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--- On Sat, 3/13/10, Carl 's carloselgua...@hotmail.com wrote:

 From: Carl 's carloselgua...@hotmail.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] QUESTION RE METEORITES AND POP CULTURE
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Saturday, March 13, 2010, 10:16 AM
 
 Hi All,
 
 I found it!
 I know Darryl closed this thread but I thought some of you
 might be interested.
 
 Green Acres, Season 5, The Beeping Rock, in 3 parts:
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHDts1Lfdqc
 
 Carl2
 
 I wrote:
 Here's another you might hunt for. I saw a portion of
 an episode of Green Acres 
 recently. Someone found a huge chunk of Lunar meteorite
 and ,at night, the 
 thing would make a noise. I forgot how it ended but I
 think the rock was 
 brought into a lab to be tested.
 
 
 
 
 
     
 
       
   
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Re: [meteorite-list] March Meteorite-Times is now up

2010-03-18 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi Paul and List!

Outstanding work again! :)

And thanks to John Kashuba for the excellent piece on NWA 869 - I will
never look at NWA 869 the same ever again.  Now I will be closely
scrutinizing every specimen I cut. :)

Best regards,

MikeG


On 3/18/10, Paul Harris p...@meteorite.com wrote:
 Hello Everyone,

 The March issue of Meteorite-Times is now up.
 http://www.meteorite-times.com/meteorite_frame.htm

 A huge thanks to all the writers as aways and a thank you to Count Guido
 Deiro for being this month's Meteorite Person and sharing the story of
 his first meteorite find with Sonny and Brix.

 Enjoy,

 Paul and Jim

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Re: [meteorite-list] QUESTION RE METEORITES AND POP CULTURE

2010-03-18 Thread Linton Rohr
Then there was the YouTube poolside party  video a few months back, where 
the young, gospel-spreading man got drilled right through the chest by a red 
hot, smoking meteor, thus creating a really cool smoke ring. Unfortunately, 
it's no longer up on YouTube.


- Original Message - 
From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com

To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] QUESTION RE METEORITES AND POP CULTURE



Hey Darryl.

I was searching something else and found a site called tv.com

On a whim I entered meteorite in the search box and it returned 140 TV 
episodes with that term. Many are cartoons...



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Re: [meteorite-list] The Sniper Mentality

2010-03-18 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi Tracy and List,

Yeah, it's a good feeling when you place an early bid and forget about
it.  Then a week later you get an email from eBay saying you won the
item for a fraction of your maximum bid.  I like it when that happens.
:)

Best regards,

MikeG


On 3/18/10, tracy latimer daist...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I vary in my bidding methods, depending on the current bid, how many people
 are bidding, how much I want the item...  People snipe so that they have the
 best chance of getting the item for as cheaply as possible.  Usually I bid
 my maximum as late as possible; if I can, manually sniping in the last few
 seconds.  This puts my bid in late enough so that others can't 'top' it or
 raise it and make me pay more.  I may put in an absentee bid early on if I
 know I won't be online when the auction is closing.  I don't always win my
 item, but often enough I do, and for less than I was willing to pay, that it
 works for me.

 That's my story, and I'm stickin' to it. ;)

 Best!
 Tracy Latimer
   
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Re: [meteorite-list] QUESTION RE METEORITES AND POP CULTURE

2010-03-18 Thread Greg Hupe

Hey Linton,
Then there was the YouTube poolside party  video a few months back, where 
the young, gospel-spreading man got drilled right through the chest by a 
red hot, smoking meteor, thus creating a really cool smoke ring. 
Unfortunately, it's no longer up on YouTube.


That was a Spike TV episode of 1000 Ways To Die #913. Here is the link to 
a Youtube video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z918jt_Stv8

Best regards,
Greg


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- Original Message - 
From: Linton Rohr linton...@earthlink.net

To: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] QUESTION RE METEORITES AND POP CULTURE


Then there was the YouTube poolside party  video a few months back, where 
the young, gospel-spreading man got drilled right through the chest by a 
red hot, smoking meteor, thus creating a really cool smoke ring. 
Unfortunately, it's no longer up on YouTube.


- Original Message - 
From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com

To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] QUESTION RE METEORITES AND POP CULTURE



Hey Darryl.

I was searching something else and found a site called tv.com

On a whim I entered meteorite in the search box and it returned 140 TV 
episodes with that term. Many are cartoons...



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Full Moon Photography
IMCA #1081




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Re: [meteorite-list] QUESTION RE METEORITES AND POP CULTURE

2010-03-18 Thread Mark Bowling
I saw that clip - good for a laugh, but definitely low budget...



- Original Message 
From: Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net
To: Linton Rohr linton...@earthlink.net
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thu, March 18, 2010 12:15:54 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] QUESTION RE METEORITES AND POP CULTURE

Hey Linton,
 Then there was the YouTube poolside party  video a few months back, where the 
 young, gospel-spreading man got drilled right through the chest by a red hot, 
 smoking meteor, thus creating a really cool smoke ring. Unfortunately, it's 
 no longer up on YouTube.

That was a Spike TV episode of 1000 Ways To Die #913. Here is the link to a 
Youtube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z918jt_Stv8

Best regards,
Greg


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NaturesVault (eBay)
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- Original Message - From: Linton Rohr linton...@earthlink.net
To: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] QUESTION RE METEORITES AND POP CULTURE


 Then there was the YouTube poolside party  video a few months back, where the 
 young, gospel-spreading man got drilled right through the chest by a red hot, 
 smoking meteor, thus creating a really cool smoke ring. Unfortunately, it's 
 no longer up on YouTube.
 
 - Original Message - From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com
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 Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 11:11 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] QUESTION RE METEORITES AND POP CULTURE
 
 
 Hey Darryl.
 
 I was searching something else and found a site called tv.com
 
 On a whim I entered meteorite in the search box and it returned 140 TV 
 episodes with that term. Many are cartoons...
 
 
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[meteorite-list] Fw: The Sniper Mentality

2010-03-18 Thread Linton Rohr



Yeah Mike, that's nice.
But more often than not, ebay tells me the item went for $1 over my max.
I don't particularly like the tactic of sniping,
but hey... if you can't beat 'em, join 'em!
Linton

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To: tracy latimer daist...@hotmail.com
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The Sniper Mentality



Hi Tracy and List,

Yeah, it's a good feeling when you place an early bid and forget about
it.  Then a week later you get an email from eBay saying you won the
item for a fraction of your maximum bid.  I like it when that happens.
:)

Best regards,

MikeG


On 3/18/10, tracy latimer daist...@hotmail.com wrote:


I vary in my bidding methods, depending on the current bid, how many 
people
are bidding, how much I want the item...  People snipe so that they have 
the
best chance of getting the item for as cheaply as possible.  Usually I 
bid
my maximum as late as possible; if I can, manually sniping in the last 
few
seconds.  This puts my bid in late enough so that others can't 'top' it 
or
raise it and make me pay more.  I may put in an absentee bid early on if 
I
know I won't be online when the auction is closing.  I don't always win 
my
item, but often enough I do, and for less than I was willing to pay, 
that it

works for me.

That's my story, and I'm stickin' to it. ;)

Best!
Tracy Latimer

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Re: [meteorite-list] QUESTION RE METEORITES AND POP CULTURE

2010-03-18 Thread Linton Rohr

Ah... Thanks Greg.
That's definitely pop culture.
I think that was shot in my neighborhood.
Linton

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To: Linton Rohr linton...@earthlink.net
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] QUESTION RE METEORITES AND POP CULTURE



Hey Linton,
Then there was the YouTube poolside party  video a few months back, where 
the young, gospel-spreading man got drilled right through the chest by a 
red hot, smoking meteor, thus creating a really cool smoke ring. 
Unfortunately, it's no longer up on YouTube.


That was a Spike TV episode of 1000 Ways To Die #913. Here is the link 
to a Youtube video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z918jt_Stv8

Best regards,
Greg


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NaturesVault (eBay)
gmh...@htn.net
www.LunarRock.com
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From: Linton Rohr linton...@earthlink.net

To: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] QUESTION RE METEORITES AND POP CULTURE


Then there was the YouTube poolside party  video a few months back, where 
the young, gospel-spreading man got drilled right through the chest by a 
red hot, smoking meteor, thus creating a really cool smoke ring. 
Unfortunately, it's no longer up on YouTube.


- Original Message - 
From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com

To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] QUESTION RE METEORITES AND POP CULTURE



Hey Darryl.

I was searching something else and found a site called tv.com

On a whim I entered meteorite in the search box and it returned 140 TV 
episodes with that term. Many are cartoons...



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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Express: Phobos Flyby Images Released

2010-03-18 Thread Richard Kowalski
A similar question came up on MPML about the grooves on Phobos. I thought this 
answer by Alan Harris might be of interest.

--
Richard Kowalski
Full Moon Photography
IMCA #1081


Alan Harris wrote:

The strings or grooves have been seen since the time of the early 
Mariners and Vikings, they're just seen a little (lot) better now.  They 
are not related to multiple impacts, in spite of some appearance of being 
strings of craters.  They have been studied extensively over the years, with 
their nature not entirely resolved, but appear to be related in some way with 
the tidal environment of Phobos.  If it were a fluid, it would simply come 
apart, since it is inside the classical Roche limit.  However, even a rubble 
pile can persist there, held together only by the angle of repose limit of 
such material.  When struck by an impact though, the vibration of the impact 
may allow material to slump, just as we sometimes see landslides triggered by 
earthquakes.  This kind of slumping may result in crack or grooves running 
across the terrain.  I co-authored a paper in Nature many years ago putting 
this hypothesis forward (Soter, S., Harris, A. 1977, Are striations on PHOBOS 
evidence for tidal stress? Nature 268, 421).  This is not the last word on the 
matter (in fact, it was sort of the
 first word).  There are a number of more recent publications on it.

Alan


  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: The Sniper Mentality

2010-03-18 Thread Impactika
Years ago when I was still selling on Ebay, I had an interesting insight in 
the sniper mentality.
 
The auction was for a Tatahouine, about 4-5 grams, very nice but not 
exceptional. With minutes to go, two guys got into a sniping war, I don't know 
if 
they were using a software or sitting in front of their computers but the 
batlle raged with bids coming in every couple seconds. And when it was over, 
the winner had just paid triple what a similar Tatahouine was priced at on 
my website.
I admit that I had a good laugh on that!. 
 
Anne M. Black
_http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) 
_impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) 
Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc.
_http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) 
 
 
In a message dated 3/18/2010 1:34:37 PM Mountain Daylight Time, 
linton...@earthlink.net writes:
Yeah Mike, that's nice.
But more often than not, ebay tells me the item went for $1 over my max.
I don't particularly like the tactic of sniping,
but hey... if you can't beat 'em, join 'em!
Linton


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[meteorite-list] [Fwd: Re: {MPML} Mars Express: Phobos Flyby Images Released]

2010-03-18 Thread Richard Kowalski

And a paper that may be of interest.

My last post on the subject...

Richard


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Subject: Re: {MPML} Mars Express: Phobos Flyby Images Released
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 20:22:38 -
From: Christian chrisk0...@yahoo.com
To: m...@yahoogroups.com


Another interpretation of the parallel grooves on Phobos is in this 2006 paper:

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2006/pdf/2195.pdf

Regards,

Christian Kjærnet
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[meteorite-list] Colorado-Nebraska-Kansas Fireball on March 16

2010-03-18 Thread Chris Peterson
There was a bright, explosive fireball right around the border of Colorado, 
Nebraska, and Kansas on Tuesday morning (5:25 MDT) March 16. It was probably 
a little too fast and steep for a meteorite producer, but that remains a 
possibility.


An analysis is at http://www.cloudbait.com/science/fireball20100316.html

Chris

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Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: The Sniper Mentality

2010-03-18 Thread R N Hartman
From time to time I have put our micro membrane boxes as well as larger 
boxes on ebay, beginning at a minimum bid.  Without exception they are 
always bid right up to the list price on our website www.membranebox.com.  I 
seem not to be able to give any special auction deals!


Ron Hartman

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From: impact...@aol.com

To: linton...@earthlink.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: The Sniper Mentality


Years ago when I was still selling on Ebay, I had an interesting insight 
in

the sniper mentality.

The auction was for a Tatahouine, about 4-5 grams, very nice but not
exceptional. With minutes to go, two guys got into a sniping war, I don't 
know if

they were using a software or sitting in front of their computers but the
batlle raged with bids coming in every couple seconds. And when it was 
over,
the winner had just paid triple what a similar Tatahouine was priced at 
on

my website.
I admit that I had a good laugh on that!.

Anne M. Black
_http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/)
_impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com)
Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc.
_http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/)


In a message dated 3/18/2010 1:34:37 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
linton...@earthlink.net writes:
Yeah Mike, that's nice.
But more often than not, ebay tells me the item went for $1 over my max.
I don't particularly like the tactic of sniping,
but hey... if you can't beat 'em, join 'em!
Linton


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Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: The Sniper Mentality

2010-03-18 Thread star_wars_collector
I think the quality of your boxes and the wide use of them allows you that. 
Even at normal price they are an awesome value.
I store all my best samples in them and have not even wanted to look for 
another option.

Greg C

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From: R N Hartman rhartma...@earthlink.net
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:58:36 
To: impact...@aol.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw:  The Sniper Mentality

From time to time I have put our micro membrane boxes as well as larger 
boxes on ebay, beginning at a minimum bid.  Without exception they are 
always bid right up to the list price on our website www.membranebox.com.  I 
seem not to be able to give any special auction deals!

Ron Hartman

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From: impact...@aol.com
To: linton...@earthlink.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: The Sniper Mentality


 Years ago when I was still selling on Ebay, I had an interesting insight 
 in
 the sniper mentality.

 The auction was for a Tatahouine, about 4-5 grams, very nice but not
 exceptional. With minutes to go, two guys got into a sniping war, I don't 
 know if
 they were using a software or sitting in front of their computers but the
 batlle raged with bids coming in every couple seconds. And when it was 
 over,
 the winner had just paid triple what a similar Tatahouine was priced at 
 on
 my website.
 I admit that I had a good laugh on that!.

 Anne M. Black
 _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/)
 _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com)
 Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc.
 _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/)


 In a message dated 3/18/2010 1:34:37 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
 linton...@earthlink.net writes:
 Yeah Mike, that's nice.
 But more often than not, ebay tells me the item went for $1 over my max.
 I don't particularly like the tactic of sniping,
 but hey... if you can't beat 'em, join 'em!
 Linton


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Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: The Sniper Mentality

2010-03-18 Thread Greg Hupe

Hey Ron,
Without exception they are
always bid right up to the list price on our website www.membranebox.com. 
I

seem not to be able to give any special auction deals!

Sure you do, and always, 'without' a huge quantity purchase. Thanks as 
always for your great service and prices!


Best regards,
Greg


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NaturesVault (eBay)
gmh...@htn.net
www.LunarRock.com
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To: impact...@aol.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: The Sniper Mentality



From time to time I have put our micro membrane boxes as well as larger
boxes on ebay, beginning at a minimum bid.  Without exception they are 
always bid right up to the list price on our website www.membranebox.com. 
I seem not to be able to give any special auction deals!


Ron Hartman

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From: impact...@aol.com

To: linton...@earthlink.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: The Sniper Mentality


Years ago when I was still selling on Ebay, I had an interesting insight 
in

the sniper mentality.

The auction was for a Tatahouine, about 4-5 grams, very nice but not
exceptional. With minutes to go, two guys got into a sniping war, I don't 
know if

they were using a software or sitting in front of their computers but the
batlle raged with bids coming in every couple seconds. And when it was 
over,
the winner had just paid triple what a similar Tatahouine was priced at 
on

my website.
I admit that I had a good laugh on that!.

Anne M. Black
_http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/)
_impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com)
Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc.
_http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/)


In a message dated 3/18/2010 1:34:37 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
linton...@earthlink.net writes:
Yeah Mike, that's nice.
But more often than not, ebay tells me the item went for $1 over my max.
I don't particularly like the tactic of sniping,
but hey... if you can't beat 'em, join 'em!
Linton


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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Express: Phobos Flyby Images Released

2010-03-18 Thread Jerry Flaherty
Thank you Richard [et. Alan]. I'm happy to have some corroboration for my 
perceptions. Rubble pile to the rescue!

Jerry

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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Express: Phobos Flyby Images Released

A similar question came up on MPML about the grooves on Phobos. I thought 
this answer by Alan Harris might be of interest.


--
Richard Kowalski
Full Moon Photography
IMCA #1081


Alan Harris wrote:

The strings or grooves have been seen since the time of the early
Mariners and Vikings, they're just seen a little (lot) better now.  They
are not related to multiple impacts, in spite of some appearance of being 
strings of craters.  They have been studied extensively over the years, 
with their nature not entirely resolved, but appear to be related in some 
way with the tidal environment of Phobos.  If it were a fluid, it would 
simply come apart, since it is inside the classical Roche limit.  However, 
even a rubble pile can persist there, held together only by the angle 
of repose limit of such material.  When struck by an impact though, the 
vibration of the impact may allow material to slump, just as we 
sometimes see landslides triggered by earthquakes.  This kind of slumping 
may result in crack or grooves running across the terrain.  I 
co-authored a paper in Nature many years ago putting this hypothesis 
forward (Soter, S., Harris, A. 1977, Are striations on PHOBOS evidence for 
tidal stress? Nature 268, 421).  This is not the last word on the matter 
(in fact, it was sort of the

first word).  There are a number of more recent publications on it.

Alan




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[meteorite-list] Keeping a meteorite database

2010-03-18 Thread Steve Witt
Greetings list,

I remember several years ago that one of the list members (I think) had a 
meteorite database available on CD. It was simply a matter of downloading to 
your computer and it formed the framework for keeping all pertinent info on 
your collection, including a place for photos.

Is there something like this still available? If not I would like to ask that 
those that do catalogue their collections please give me some ideas on what 
programs you are using. I really have no idea of where to start. Any and all 
feedback would be greatly appreciated. And if there are any computer geeks on 
the list, a CD like the one I mentioned would probably sell quite well here on 
the list.

thanx,
Steve

 
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[meteorite-list] Getting a Chubb from National Geographic

2010-03-18 Thread Darren Garrison
No, I'm not talking about those old articles on natives!  Sheesh!

This is Pingualuit crater aka New Quebec Crater aka Chubb crater

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pingualuit_crater

I was browsing through one of the DVDs of the Complete National Geographic set
and the first issue I looked at happened to have this article.

Solving the Riddle of Chubb Crater, January 1952 issue of NatGeo.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/20u7dt
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Re: [meteorite-list] Ad Ebay sellers must see

2010-03-18 Thread Linton Rohr

Yeah, I'll have to try some listings on Astro Auctions, Mike.
There's only 3 auctions listed there though, at the moment.

I have to disagree on Astromart, though.
In my opinion, it's the best place on the web to buy and sell astro gear. 
Much safer than ebay, as either a buyer or a seller. Not the best market for 
meteorites, I must admit. 85,000 members, but they're mainly interested in 
scopes and accessories. Still, after a one-time registration fee of $12, 
you're able to place up to 35 ads in any 6 months period with no cost.  They 
do have Terms of Service though, and they don't allow dealers to set up shop 
there, without contributing. They don't allow simultaneous listings on other 
sites, especially pee-bay. Having a website you sell from is a definite 
no-no. But it's all spelled out in the TOS. Quite reasonable for the most 
part, in my opinion. And no, Tony Soprano doesn't put the hammer down. There 
is a peer group through which violations are policed. They debate and vote 
on TOS infractions, and their decision  is then enforced. If they notice 
that you're always selling the same thing... say meteorites... they might 
decide you're a dealer and ask you to buy ad packs. But for guys like me, 
who mainly buy, and only occasionally sell anything, it's great.
By the way Mike, the site is now administered by Astromart LLC. Herb bowed 
out quite a while back. Couldn't handle the headaches any more, I guess. 
For anyone else, I am not affiliated with Astromart in any way, other than 
being a happy member/user.

Linton


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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ad Ebay sellers must see



Hi Walt and List,

I'll check out Astro-Auctions - I'm always looking for new areas to
expand the Galactic Stone empire into.  I've never heard of it until
now.  I must have been under a rock.

Just don't list anything on AstroMart - to put this nicely, the owner
is like Tony Soprano and treats his members the same.  Or, if you want
to aggravate yourself and get bullied for an unfair cut of your sales,
go ahead and try. LOL

Best regards,

MikeG


On 3/17/10, Walter Branch waltbra...@bellsouth.net wrote:

Hi Mike,

For years I was the only meteorite seller at Astro Auction Kim Poor (the
site administrator) asked me to bring more meteorite business to the 
site.

I can't tell you how much Canyon Diablo I sold there.

I informed a few dealers Astro Auction a few years ago but they never 
took

advantage of the site. No one listed anything.

Ironically Kim and Novaspace Galleries (the brick and morter store behind
Astro Auction) are located in of all places, Tucson.

Not too long ago I mentioned Cloudynights.com as an alternative to ebay.
Totally free of fees.  The time it takes to list an item is 30 seconds to
one minute.  How many new dealers started listing there?  None.


I see is that you are going to miss a massive chunk of the exposure that
eBay provides.


Not really.  List meteorites at both sites.  They are not mutually
exclusive.

The impetus for using sites other than ebay has to come from dealers, not
buyers.

What did they say in the movie, build it and they will come.  Well, you
won't be playing baseball in the middle of a cornfield.  You gotta build 
the

stadium first.

-Walter


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This auction site already exists and has been around for a long time. 
Best

of all, there are zero fees. There is also a section for meteorites:

www.Astro-Auction.com

Though used mostly for space memorabilia, I believe an effort to move
meteorite folks over there could be done. The only problem I see is that
you
are going to miss a massive chunk of the exposure that eBay provides.

--
Mike Bandli
Historic Meteorites
www.HistoricMeteorites.com
IMCA #5765
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Hi Jim,

It's been tried before, most recently Eric W. tried it.  (if memory
serves me correctly)

The problem is, many meteorite dealers are very competitive with each
other, and I think if a dealer owns/runs the auction site, some other
dealers will avoid it - no matter who that dealer/owner is.

But I agree that a meteorite auction site (with traffic) would be great.