[meteorite-list] AD: Jilf al Kabir - New Egyptian Iron Meteorite
Sorry if this posts twice! Dear List, today I would like to offer you 6 pieces of the new iron meteorite from Egypt. Most pieces have shrapnell like features. The meteorite was found and collected around a crater which was most probably caused by the impact of this meteorite. Pictures of the crater and more information can be viewed here: http://www.rocksfromspace.org/June_20_2010.html The meteorite will probably be classified as an anomalous Ataxite and the proposed name is Jilf al Kabir. Here are the pieces I have available at this time including links to pictures: 1. 206.4 gram specimen - US-$ 400 http://www.m3t3orites.com/meteorites/img/jilf/01a-206.4gr.jpg http://www.m3t3orites.com/meteorites/img/jilf/01b-206.4gr.jpg http://www.m3t3orites.com/meteorites/img/jilf/01c-206.4gr.jpg 2. 215.4 gram specimen - US-$ 415 http://www.m3t3orites.com/meteorites/img/jilf/02a-215.4gr.jpg http://www.m3t3orites.com/meteorites/img/jilf/02b-215.4gr.jpg http://www.m3t3orites.com/meteorites/img/jilf/02c-215.4gr.jpg http://www.m3t3orites.com/meteorites/img/jilf/02d-215.4gr.jpg 3. 257.0 gram specimen - US-$ 500 http://www.m3t3orites.com/meteorites/img/jilf/03a-257.0gr.jpg http://www.m3t3orites.com/meteorites/img/jilf/03b-257.0gr.jpg http://www.m3t3orites.com/meteorites/img/jilf/03c-257.0gr.jpg 4. 285.4 gram specimen - US-$ 565 http://www.m3t3orites.com/meteorites/img/jilf/04a-285.4gr.jpg http://www.m3t3orites.com/meteorites/img/jilf/04b-285.4gr.jpg http://www.m3t3orites.com/meteorites/img/jilf/04c-285.4gr.jpg 5. 311.6 gram specimen - US-$ 615 http://www.m3t3orites.com/meteorites/img/jilf/05a-311.6gr.jpg http://www.m3t3orites.com/meteorites/img/jilf/05b-311.6gr.jpg http://www.m3t3orites.com/meteorites/img/jilf/05c-311.6gr.jpg 6. 434.2 gram specimen - US-$ 860 http://www.m3t3orites.com/meteorites/img/jilf/06a-434.2gr.jpg http://www.m3t3orites.com/meteorites/img/jilf/06b-434.2gr.jpg http://www.m3t3orites.com/meteorites/img/jilf/06c-434.2gr.jpg If you are interested in any of the pieces please send me an email to: moritzk...@t-online.de I will be handling all orders in the order I receive them. If the piece you are interested in is already taken you will have first shot at another specimen even if somebody else already inquired about it. Please let me know if you have any questions. Best Regards, Moritz Karl __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What types of meteorites do you collect?
...except I miss-typed, knowing that SaH00182 is a CR3! -Rick - Original Message - From: Melanie Matthews miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca To: Greg Stanley stanleygr...@hotmail.com; t...@rogers.com; fuj...@mac.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; photoph...@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What types of meteorites do you collect? Greg S. - you're on the same wavelength as me in regards to meteorite preferences! Although I'm also very fond of carbonaceous chondrites (of which my favorites are the more exotic primitive types: i.e. Tagish Lake and Murchison, etc), and out of ordinary chondrites - Ls, LLs, breccias, and the more exotic lesser known types. I want to become a type collector. --- Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what you're gonna get! - Original Message From: Greg Stanley stanleygr...@hotmail.com To: t...@rogers.com; fuj...@mac.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; photoph...@yahoo.com Sent: Thu, July 1, 2010 9:31:00 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What types of meteorites do you collect? Mike and List: Maybe that's better: I'm not to big on Irons - only have a few and my first was an Iron. I favor Achondrites, the more exotic the better - I think it's so neat to see crystals in a meteorite. I also think meteorites without metal are really cool. The bigger the crystals - the better. I favor Mars over Lunars. I have three mars and only one lunar. It's such a fasinating hobby, Greg S. Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 12:24:21 -0400 From: t...@rogers.com To: fuj...@mac.com CC: stanleygr...@hotmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; photoph...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What types of meteorites do you collect? Gary, From your post it really should be What don't you collect. ;) I guess you may not have too many martian or lunars. I collect similar to you except I don't go for too many irons. Just have a couple to show people and sxplain the broad range of meteorites. Chondrites of all shorts (especially W0 unequilibrated) and HEDs. I too love Dho 007 Cheers! Mike Tettenborn Gary Fujihara wrote: Greg poses a good question for the list: what types of meteorites do you collect the most and are most interested in, and why? Well, being far too scatterbrained to choose only one type, I have many interests. I love carbonaceous chondrites, and among them CM and CVs in particular (I love the smell of Murchison in the morning ;^) For achondrites, I collect HEDs a lot, and love brecciated cumulate eucrites like Dho 007. WIth respect to ordinary chondrites, I love any unequilibrated stone, and type 3s of any classification float my boat. Oh, and last but not least, I love big, regmaglyped complete irons of all kinds. There is something about a large iron meteorite that captures the attention and imagination of most people. gary This brings up another idea for a thread: What class or type of meteorite to you collect the most and are most interested it? I myself like rare ungrouped achondrites and my favorite is the Angrites. Greg S. Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Morocco Show 2011
Hello All, I've just returned from two weeks of enjoying the Ensisheim and St. Marie shows. I was able to meet up with some old friends and meet some of those who I have only met through emails and phone calls over the years. If you haven't attended one of these shows yet, make sure it is on your long term To-Do list, especially the Ensisheim Show (in my opinion), always great to meet up with our friends from overseas!! I would like to inform everyone of the 1st International Mines Show to be held in Midelt, Morocco May 29-June 6, 2011. The main sponsor is a highly respected professional from Midelt and is not a List subscriber so I thought I would help spread the word. This is a great opportunity for meteorite folks; from collector/dealers who have been around a while to the new fledgling dealers, those who have been to Morocco 40 times, 4 times or no times. This will be a great event to meet those dealers in person with whom you have only contacted through emails or over the phone. There will be meteorites, minerals, fossils...and I am sure plenty of sugar-laden tea, couscous and other assorted local staples. I am seriously considering reserving a space at the show to bring classified NWA meteorites that have been prepared and present to the Moroccan International collectors who are sure to attend this first-time event in Midelt. How cool will it be to bring back to Morocco the very stones I hand carried out of the desert over the last 10 years, kind of full circle! Speaking of collectors, it was nice to see a couple of Moroccan dealers at the St. Marie show purchase some kilos of the new Egyptian iron to offer to their Moroccan collector friends as they explained to me. They were pretty excited to be the first to offer them there. Here are a couple of photo links to the 1st International Mines Show flyer distributed at the St. Marie show, be sure to mark your calendars! Front view: http://www.lunarrock.com/MarocShow2011/MarocShow2011a.jpg Rear view: http://www.lunarrock.com/MarocShow2011/MarocShow2011b.jpg Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) gmh...@htn.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Trends with WI Fall and alike for July
G'Day Stuart and List My sentiments entirely, but I'm afraid you're going to have to run the gauntlet. All the miracles for this year have been used up :-) Cheers John IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McDaniel Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 6:30 PM To: star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com; Shawn Alan; Mike Bandli; Galactic Stone Ironworks Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Trends with WI Fall and alike for July Hopefully this topic won't go down hill like some others have recently. I have been sitting back just reading for a long time and not saying much but I would like to add a comment. I guess it would be in Greg's defense but I remember back when the first pieces of the WI fireball hit ebay there were a couple listers here that really cashed in at $300-400/gr. I know demand drives price and some people will pay what ever to get a piece. That is just free enterprise. Everyone know that anyone that is selling something is out to make money or else they would not be selling something. Greg made it possible for me to add a small WI addition to my collection early in the game when it seemed the going price was way over $100/gr. Thank you! Not all of us have the deep pockets that some here have and we have to sacrifice size to gain quantity. Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secretary, Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society - Original Message - From: star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com To: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com; Mike Bandli fuzzf...@comcast.net; Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Trends with WI Fall and alike for July That was on ebay after I had offered it to metlist members at $60 per gram. To be honest, some paid less then $40 per gram who have been good customers of mine. Once I filled the requests on here, yeah I did try to cash in a little bit on ebay, but keep in mind about 18% of the cost went to fees. I'm not going to play it off like I'm not out to make money selling meteorites but I do know I was the first one to offer samples well under $100 per gram - almost 1/2 the price others were asking. I made a trip out there, came back empty handed, but still had a lot of fun. Same with the PA fall last year. It cost money, I did not find anything but my family and I had a great time. No money lost in my opinion. I do understand costs, and I'm not taking shots at anyone. Just offering my opinion of the fresh fall frenzy and how I feel as a collector being asked to pay $100 per gram for an OC when its all over the papers that people are paying less the $10 per gram for it. I made it to and from WI on less then $200 and stayed for under$50 per night. A week would have cost me about $450. One 4.9g stone bought at $10 per gram pays for the trip. How many found much more then that? That's Real numbers... To top it off and put it into perspective, I have had someone tell me anything over $100 per gram is too much for an angrite like mine, but they pay $100/g for an OC? Haha. Greg Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 13:46:45 To: Mike Bandlifuzzf...@comcast.net; Galactic Stone Ironworksmeteoritem...@gmail.com; Greg Cattertonstar_wars_collec...@yahoo.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Trends with WI Fall and alike for July Greg and Listers Greg I am kinda confused by your statement about how much you sold your WI meteorite falls for on eBay when you said this. 'I dont like the trend with new falls and the prices that go with them, its taking advantage of collectors. Thats the whole reason I sold my WI material at $60 or less when others were still getting $100 or more But your sold many WI fall meteorite fragsments for $100 or more per gram on eBay with only buy it now options. Good example is this listing on ebay: awesome 2.30 gram fusion crusted COMPLETE SLICE of the Meteorite that fell in Wisconsin on April 14, 2010. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=390192619325 and you sold it for $230 with only a buy it now option, hmmm. I am confused now by your statement about how you dont like trends where people increse the price on falls when they are new. Another example is you sold many micros on ebay for with only a buy it now option for $10 at that rate the collecter paid well over $500 a gram at that inflated price. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=390196100905 Again trends come and go and this month is going to be a month with a rise with historic falls and rare meteorites going up for record sales in the past few months. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore
[meteorite-list] AD: STORE WIDE SALE- Everything Must Go!
Hello, Just kidding on the Everything must go! Nice Stuff-Good Sale though! Some major reductions throughout! SEE ALL ITEMS ON SALE IN MY STORE! http://stores.ebay.com/voyage-botanica-natural-history Thanks Michael Cottingham _ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Perhaps an earlier impact event?
Hi Paul - Okay. The perigee zero team's proposed crater is too large for anyone to have survived. Further, that's not what the First People's remembered. So the first question, is it possible that they are looking at the remains of a different earlier impact? Second point, Bill Napier is currently proposing a shower of Tunguska type impacts, but we have the problem of the outflow of Lake Agassiz to the north, and the Lloydminster structure, currently undated. I suppose if NASA paid you money to do it, you'd have the YD impact problem all worked out by now. And the smaller recent impacts would all be documented in the field. still waiting for the USGS cores from the Carolina's E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas In YD Crater hunt (impactites?) at http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2010-June/065401.html , E.P. Grondine wrote: It turns out the backtrack intercept was already mapped - the third image at http://cosmictusk.com. Sorry, but this image did not show on my computer. One hypothesied large fragment impact point in lower Michigan is shown. There should be another one not too far distant. There is one major problem with the Rainwater Basins, as they are called, being associated with a terminal Pleistocene impact. The oval basins that are exhibited by the modern land surface are palimpsest landforms created by a blanket of Middle, Late, and Holocene loesses and paleosols draped evenly over the original Rainwater Basins, which are developed in fluvial sediments. These sediments are at least, Illinoian in age, Marine Isotope Stage 6, approximately 130,000 to 196,000 BP old as a Late Illinoian Sangamon Soil is developed in them. it would be interesting to know the stratigraphic relationship of the Late Illinoian Sangamon Soil to these original basins as it would further constrain their age. Direct studies of these basins from cores and gully walls, reveal that the original basins are buried by undisturbed loess, which consists of an intact sequence, from bottom to top, of Middle Wisconsin Gilman Canyon Formation, Late Wisconsin Peoria Loess, Brady Soil, Holocene Bignell Loess, and other interbedded and associated paleosols (Zanner and Kuzila 2001, Zanner et al. 2007). The fact that the original basins are blanketed by loess of the Gilman Canyon Formation clearly demonstrates that the original Rainwater Basins are greater than 30,000 to 40,000 years TL and C14 (Johnson et al. 2008; Wiley 2009). It is quite obvious that the Rainwater Basins are far too old to be associated with any hypothetical Younger Dryas event. The presence of an intact and undisturbed blanket of Late Wisconsin Peoria Loess, Middle Wisconsin loess of the Gilman Canyon Formation, and associated paleosols covering the original Rainwater Basins makes any association between the them and the Younger Dryas a complete and utter physical impossibility as extraterrestrial impacts cannot create craters tens of thousands of years before they happen. Go look at:: Johnson, W. C., Willey, K. L., Mason, J. A., and May, D. W., 2007, Stratigraphy and environmental reconstruction at the Middle Wisconsinan Gilman Canyon Formation type locality, Buzzard's Roost, southwestern Nebraska, U.S.A. Quaternary Research. vol. 67, pp. 474-486. http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.yqres.2007.01.011 Wiley, K. L., 2009, Environmental and Pedogenic Change in the Central Great Plains from the Middle Wisconsinan to the Present. Unpublished PhD. dissertation, Department of Geography, University of Kansas, Lawrence, Kansas. http://hdl.handle.net/1808/5590 Zanner, C. W., and M. S. Kuzila, 2001, Nebraska's Carolina bays. Geological Society of America Abstracts with Programs, v. 33, no. 6, pp. 438. Zanner, C. W., W. Dort, Jr., and S. R. Bozarth, 2007, Holocene Bognell Loess Chronology. Stratigraphy and paleoenvironemntal reconstructions from within a loess table, Southwestern, Nebraska. Geological Society of America Abstracts with Programs, v. 39, no. 3, pp. 73. Yours, Paul H. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Planet Formation (Ashes to Ashes, Dust to Dust)
What about, Sugar and Spice and everything Nice or, Snakes and snails and puppy dog tails?? On Jul 5, 2010, at 3:45 PM, Phil Whitmer wrote: A small point where science and creation myths are in agreement: For dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return. Speaking of recycables, I was watching How The Earth Was Formed, the episode about gold, and they mentioned how gold has been recycled and traded around the globe for centuries. They said your wedding band may contain molecules of ancient Egyptian or Peruvian gold that has been melted down and traded. - Heck, look at your fingers (and the rest of yourself too). THAT'S nothing but reworked stellar dust and ash and a pinch of supernova powder... Sterling K. Webb __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Planet Formation (Ashes to Ashes, Dust to Dust)
Not my brass ring? On Jul 5, 2010, at 3:45 PM, Phil Whitmer wrote: A small point where science and creation myths are in agreement: For dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return. Speaking of recycables, I was watching How The Earth Was Formed, the episode about gold, and they mentioned how gold has been recycled and traded around the globe for centuries. They said your wedding band may contain molecules of ancient Egyptian or Peruvian gold that has been melted down and traded. - Heck, look at your fingers (and the rest of yourself too). THAT'S nothing but reworked stellar dust and ash and a pinch of supernova powder... Sterling K. Webb __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A new US ureilite - and a sizeable one at that!
Agreed. The RSS feed works great. Look at all of those Yamatos! Tom Jeff wrote: Use the RSS feature of the MetBull Database, and you will always stay informed when new, interesting meteorites are announced! http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/meteorite-rss.php Most major email programs let you subscribe to such feeds and have news delivered as though it was email. --- http://home.roadrunner.com/~kb2sms/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ensisheim/Sainte Marie Photos
Greg Hupe and Darryl Pitt http://www.lunarrock.com/france-2010/ensisheim9.jpg Really?? Oh, well: remarkable and attractive, guys!! (Well, if you wish, just leave out that comma...:-)) Cheers, Alex Berlin/Germany __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Slow posts?
Just curious if it is just my own mail or if others are experiencing slow posting to the list? In the past few days I have had some other member's posts show up in my inbox. Many are days old and some are as much as a week old! I have had my own posts take hours or as much as a day to post and I know other often post dups because posting has been slow at times, but I don't believe I've ever seen posts take a full week before they made it to me. Thanks -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Scientists Find Dust Inside Japan's Asteroid Capsule (Hayabusa)
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1007/06hayabusa/ Scientists find dust inside Japan's asteroid capsule BY STEPHEN CLARK SPACEFLIGHT NOW July 6, 2010 The Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency announced Monday they found particles inside the Hayabusa mission's capsule that was supposed to scoop up a sample from the surface of asteroid Itokawa in 2005. Officials say they don't know yet whether the particles are dust from the asteroid, or if the material originated from Earth or interplanetary space. Hayabusa's return capsule parachuted back to Earth in the Australian outback June 13, wrapping up a mission spanning seven years and stretching four billion miles across the solar system. The mission accomplished the first roundtrip journey to an asteroid. The 16-inch-wide capsule returned unscathed, and recovery teams shipped the craft back to Japan, where it arrived June 18 at a high-tech curation facility in Sagamihara, near Tokyo. An X-ray of the canister showed no signs of any particles larger than 1 millimeter, or about 1/25 of an inch, JAXA officials said in an earlier statement. Technicians also measured a trace gas coming from the capsule. JAXA released confirmation of the dust particles Monday in an update posted on the agency's Japanese language website. The discovery came after scientists opened up the canister. The dust could have come from asteroid Itokawa, interplanetary space, or it could be contamination from Earth that was inside the container before launch or after landing. Only detailed analyses of the material will determine its source, according to JAXA. Officials say it could be months before scientists definitely prove whether the samples were collected from the surface of Itokawa, a potato-shaped rock slightly larger than a typical city block. Researchers plan to use a microscope and spectrometer to gauge the size, origin and chemical make-up of the samples. Hayabusa was designed to gather samples using a gun-fired projectile to blast chunks of rock into a funnel leading inside the collection chamber, all while executing a touch-and-go landing. But the system malfunctioned during two tries in November 2005. Hayabusa unexpectedly landed on the asteroid for about 30 minutes on the first attempt. A second sampling run went more smoothly, but data-crunching engineers said the bullet never fired, putting Hayabusa's primary science objective in doubt. Despite the mishap, mission managers remained hopeful some asteroid dust migrated into the sample chamber as the probe bumped into its surface. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites are very powerful stones!
Hi All, Unless you're from the UK, you probably haven't heard of Mitchell and Webb. They do a funny skit on homeopathic remedies (to include crystals): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMGIbOGu8q0 Look closely for humo(u)rous signs on the walls of the hospital. And be sure to keep a supply of aquamarine quartz on hand in case you're ever in a car accident... ;-) --Rob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of dean bessey Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 4:28 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites are very powerful stones! As somebody who has had a Rock and crystal shop for two years (before I closed it a couple months ago to move to Australia) I have had a lot of contact with New Age and Power aspects of rocks and Crystals. There are many practitioners of Crystal healing and medicinal effects of crystals in New Zealand and they all congregated to my shop because I had what was easily New Zealand largest selection of Rocks and Crystals and by far the cheapest as I was pricing my crystals based on their rock value and not overpriced with their spiritual properties intact like the new age shops do. My prices were in line with ebays lowest prices without the shipping cost. I sort of had to learn as I went as I had no interest in this topic before but had to pick up the basics so as to advice customers what they wanted. Anyway, in talking to hundreds of believers I guess you could call it I can say that not one considered their belief to have any religious aspects at all. There is a cosmic energy that flows through the universe that the scientists havent yet figured out what causes it but the new age people have figured out how to harvest it. But what these believers have done is figure out what crystals do which things. Amethyst (Up to 200 years ago the worlds most valuable gem - the favored gem by the likes of cleopatra, Queen Elizabeth and cartherine the great, the main stone in the british coronation crown and carried to battle for luck by ancient Egyptian soldiers) is the most important stone and helps cure some of your head ailments, and each part of the body has a different crystal that helps that certain thing. There are crystals that helps one contact the spritual realm or angels and stuff but it could be some christian spirit that it helps contact (Christianity certainly has a lot of these angels and stuff and I guess that the pope shouldent have a monopoly on talking to them anyway). Many crystals might be ground up into medicine (We dont consider chinese herbal cures to be part of a religion). These chinese cures may or may not work and some might be dangerous (Like the Romans belief that you could ground up Mercury solfide - Cinnabar, to help alleviate gout). The crystals are considered medicine or some way harvesting some power that science will figure out one day. It is not considered a religious experience (By most believers anyway. I believe that aspirin cured headaches. It is not a religious thought to think it does. If somebody believed that you ground up a tigers penis and ate it that it would make you satisify your wife better in bed it is not a religion (Even if it works - which most mainstream scientists say it doesnt) It is no more of a religion than when in 1900 some German scientist (I cant remember his name) said that he believed that he found some power rocks that could be harvested to make energy that could power our houses. He was loudly ridiculed at the time for the stupid thought that one could harvest energy from rocks lying around on the ground. I suppose I guess that you could say that he was a nutjob with a new religion. Today nobody considers the power of his rocks (Uranium) to have any religious aspects to it or the guy to be considered some spiritual leader. The last few months for the first time I have seen meteorites being touted as having these special properties. I suspect that meteorites will become one of the healing crystals in the next few years. Given the scarcity of meteorites and the millions of crystal believers consider what effect that might have on values. Cheers DEAN __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites are very powerful stones!
The reason they lost the patient, as I see it; No meteorites. -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 --- On Tue, 7/6/10, Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com wrote: From: Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites are very powerful stones! To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 11:03 AM Hi All, Unless you're from the UK, you probably haven't heard of Mitchell and Webb. They do a funny skit on homeopathic remedies (to include crystals): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMGIbOGu8q0 Look closely for humo(u)rous signs on the walls of the hospital. And be sure to keep a supply of aquamarine quartz on hand in case you're ever in a car accident... ;-) --Rob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of dean bessey Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 4:28 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites are very powerful stones! As somebody who has had a Rock and crystal shop for two years (before I closed it a couple months ago to move to Australia) I have had a lot of contact with New Age and Power aspects of rocks and Crystals. There are many practitioners of Crystal healing and medicinal effects of crystals in New Zealand and they all congregated to my shop because I had what was easily New Zealand largest selection of Rocks and Crystals and by far the cheapest as I was pricing my crystals based on their rock value and not overpriced with their spiritual properties intact like the new age shops do. My prices were in line with ebays lowest prices without the shipping cost. I sort of had to learn as I went as I had no interest in this topic before but had to pick up the basics so as to advice customers what they wanted. Anyway, in talking to hundreds of believers I guess you could call it I can say that not one considered their belief to have any religious aspects at all. There is a cosmic energy that flows through the universe that the scientists havent yet figured out what causes it but the new age people have figured out how to harvest it. But what these believers have done is figure out what crystals do which things. Amethyst (Up to 200 years ago the worlds most valuable gem - the favored gem by the likes of cleopatra, Queen Elizabeth and cartherine the great, the main stone in the british coronation crown and carried to battle for luck by ancient Egyptian soldiers) is the most important stone and helps cure some of your head ailments, and each part of the body has a different crystal that helps that certain thing. There are crystals that helps one contact the spritual realm or angels and stuff but it could be some christian spirit that it helps contact (Christianity certainly has a lot of these angels and stuff and I guess that the pope shouldent have a monopoly on talking to them anyway). Many crystals might be ground up into medicine (We dont consider chinese herbal cures to be part of a religion). These chinese cures may or may not work and some might be dangerous (Like the Romans belief that you could ground up Mercury solfide - Cinnabar, to help alleviate gout). The crystals are considered medicine or some way harvesting some power that science will figure out one day. It is not considered a religious experience (By most believers anyway. I believe that aspirin cured headaches. It is not a religious thought to think it does. If somebody believed that you ground up a tigers penis and ate it that it would make you satisify your wife better in bed it is not a religion (Even if it works - which most mainstream scientists say it doesnt) It is no more of a religion than when in 1900 some German scientist (I cant remember his name) said that he believed that he found some power rocks that could be harvested to make energy that could power our houses. He was loudly ridiculed at the time for the stupid thought that one could harvest energy from rocks lying around on the ground. I suppose I guess that you could say that he was a nutjob with a new religion. Today nobody considers the power of his rocks (Uranium) to have any religious aspects to it or the guy to be considered some spiritual leader. The last few months for the first time I have seen meteorites being touted as having these special properties. I suspect that meteorites will become one of the healing crystals in the next few years. Given the scarcity of meteorites and the millions of crystal believers consider what effect that might have on values. Cheers DEAN __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
[meteorite-list] Extra Small Riker Mounts - AD
Hi Fellow Listoids, The extra small Riker Mounts been out of production for a while now and command a steep price when they can be found, however I've been in talks with the manufacturer about having them run a line of 2.5 x 3 Riker mounts for me. Due to the cost of having to have the manufacturer produce a new die and hand cut the glass as their supplier no longer provides glass of this size, it would not be cost-effective for me to have a full pallet (65 case minimum) manufactured unless I am confident that there is enough interest in them. I would sell them for 2.75-3.25 each depending on the quantity purchased. If you would be interested in acquiring some if I had them produced, please let me know. Aloha, Matt Martin Meteorite Treasures www.meteoritetreasures.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NASA Takes Gamers on a Lunar Adventure With New Online Video Game
July 6, 2010 Ann Marie Trotta/Stephanie Schierholz Headquarters, Washington 202-358-1601/4997 ann.marie.tro...@nasa.gov, stephanie.schierh...@nasa.gov Frank Blackwell/Lori Mezoff Army Game Studio, Redstone Arsenal, Ala. 256-876-0463/301-879-9030 frank.blackw...@us.army.mil, lorimez...@yahoo.com Mitch Gross Virtual Heroes, Research Triangle Park, N.C. 347-688-9703 mgr...@virtualheroes.com RELEASE: 10-148 NASA TAKES GAMERS ON A LUNAR ADVENTURE WITH NEW ONLINE VIDEO GAME WASHINGTON -- NASA has given gamers a taste of lunar adventure with release of Moonbase Alpha, an exciting new, free online video game. The game has single and multiplayer options that allow participants to step into the role of an exploration team member in a futuristic 3-D lunar settlement. Players must work to restore critical systems and oxygen flow after a meteor strike cripples a solar array and life support equipment. Available resources include an interactive command center, lunar rover, mobile robotic repair units and a fully-stocked equipment shed. The game is a proof of concept to show how NASA content can be combined with a cutting-edge game engine to inspire, engage and educate students about agency technologies, job opportunities and the future of space exploration. Moonbase Alpha is rated E for everyone. It is the first game in NASA's Learning Technologies project. The project supports the delivery of NASA content through interactive technologies such as virtual worlds, games and software applications to enhance science, technology, engineering and mathematics, or STEM, education. Moonbase Alpha is a precursor to a planned NASA-based massively, multiplayer online game project. The project is being designed to have content and missions that require players to gain and demonstrate STEM knowledge to succeed. NASA released the game on Valve's Steam network. The agency will use the Steamworks suite of services for server browsing, leaderboards, statistics and more. Steam has more than 25 million accounts and has released more than 1,100 games. It was built on Epic Games' Unreal Engine 3.The Army Game Studio developed the game with support from Virtual Heroes, a division of Applied Research Associates in Research Triangle Park, N.C. This collaboration between NASA and the Army's Aviation Missile Research Development and Engineering Center is an example of government agencies working together to improve education in the STEM fields. For more information about Moonbase Alpha, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/moonbasealpha For information about NASA's education programs, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/education For information about NASA and agency projects, visit: http://www.nasa.gov -end- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: My Annual 50% OFF Everything Sale- ~48 Hours Long.... THIS IS THE ONE! Starts Today At 2:30 PST
Hello, SALE STARTS AT 2:30 PST Don't Purchase Until You See The 50% Off on each item! Every Year I do at least one 50% Off of Everything Sale...Well, HERE IT IS. I will be in and out for the next 48 hours. If you need a combined invoice for shippingI will get back with you, no worries. Be patient. There are some GREAT DEALS! Don't wait for another one this yearTHIS IS THE ONLY 50% OFF SALE FOR 2010! Have Fun! SEE ALL ITEMS ON SALE IN MY STORE! http://stores.ebay.com/voyage-botanica-natural-history Thanks Michael Cottingham _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccountocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: My Annual 50% OFF Everything Sale- ~48 Hours Long.... THIS IS THE ONE! Starts Today At 2:30 PST
Hello, SALE STARTS AT 2:30 PST Don't Purchase Until You See The 50% Off on each item! Every Year I do at least one 50% Off of Everything Sale...Well, HERE IT IS. I will be in and out for the next 48 hours. If you need a combined invoice for shippingI will get back with you, no worries. Be patient. There are some GREAT DEALS! Don't wait for another one this yearTHIS IS THE ONLY 50% OFF SALE FOR 2010! Have Fun! SEE ALL ITEMS ON SALE IN MY STORE! http://stores.ebay.com/voyage-botanica-natural-history Thanks Michael Cottingham _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccountocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 _ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: My Annual 50% OFF Everything Sale- ~48 Hours Long.... THIS IS THE ONE! Starts Today At 2:30 PST
Hello, SALE STARTS AT 2:30 PST Don't Purchase Until You See The 50% Off on each item! Every Year I do at least one 50% Off of Everything Sale...Well, HERE IT IS. I will be in and out for the next 48 hours. If you need a combined invoice for shippingI will get back with you, no worries. Be patient. There are some GREAT DEALS! Don't wait for another one this yearTHIS IS THE ONLY 50% OFF SALE FOR 2010! Have Fun! SEE ALL ITEMS ON SALE IN MY STORE! http://stores.ebay.com/voyage-botanica-natural-history Thanks Michael Cottingham _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccountocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] REALLY SORRY FOR MULTIPLE POSTS... I Do Not Know What Happened!
Not sure what is going on. Best Wishes Michael Cottingham _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Meteorites on ebay ending in a few hours
Hello list, just a reminder that I have some nice meteorites ending on ebay this evening, see link. Thank you, Robert Ward. http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=ironfromthesky __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] USB 2.0 mp Digital Camera
Hi All, I've been thinking of getting one of these for a while. Has anybody used this for taking pics of micros and larger slices of meteorites? Is the cheaper 1.3 mp a better deal? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=370397412510ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT Carl2 _ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] USB 2.0 mp Digital Camera
On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 14:46:02 -0700, you wrote: I've been thinking of getting one of these for a while. Has anybody used this for taking pics of micros and larger slices of meteorites? Is the cheaper 1.3 mp a better deal? I have a 1.3 megapixel version, with only 4 LED lights (paid more than the price for the one you linked.) There was a thread about it on the list at the time. I put up some photos taken with it here: http://www.angelfire.com/d20/darren_garrison/index.htm (Photos tweaked in software in post.) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What types of meteorites do you collect?
white ones! eucs, how, dio, BIG cheap chondrite SLICES --- On Thu, 7/1/10, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What types of meteorites do you collect? To: Greg Stanley stanleygr...@hotmail.com Cc: t...@rogers.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, photoph...@yahoo.com Date: Thursday, July 1, 2010, 12:59 PM Hi List, I collect all meteorites that I can afford. This includes common types, NWA finds, and unclassified material. As finances allow, I like to focus on whole crusted peas of recent falls. Specifically, I collect all falls since 2000 - the 21st Century Meteorites. I prefer small specimens of high quality over larger specimens of lower quality - so that is why I gravitate towards whole crusted peas. I also like achondrites and planetaries, but I can usually afford only specks or crumbs of such material. Best regards, MikeG -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone On 7/1/10, Greg Stanley stanleygr...@hotmail.com wrote: Mike and List: Maybe that's better: I'm not to big on Irons - only have a few and my first was an Iron. I favor Achondrites, the more exotic the better - I think it's so neat to see crystals in a meteorite. I also think meteorites without metal are really cool. The bigger the crystals - the better. I favor Mars over Lunars. I have three mars and only one lunar. It's such a fasinating hobby, Greg S. Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 12:24:21 -0400 From: t...@rogers.com To: fuj...@mac.com CC: stanleygr...@hotmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; photoph...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What types of meteorites do you collect? Gary, From your post it really should be What don't you collect. ;) I guess you may not have too many martian or lunars. I collect similar to you except I don't go for too many irons. Just have a couple to show people and sxplain the broad range of meteorites. Chondrites of all shorts (especially W0 unequilibrated) and HEDs. I too love Dho 007 Cheers! Mike Tettenborn Gary Fujihara wrote: Greg poses a good question for the list: what types of meteorites do you collect the most and are most interested in, and why? Well, being far too scatterbrained to choose only one type, I have many interests. I love carbonaceous chondrites, and among them CM and CVs in particular (I love the smell of Murchison in the morning ;^) For achondrites, I collect HEDs a lot, and love brecciated cumulate eucrites like Dho 007. WIth respect to ordinary chondrites, I love any unequilibrated stone, and type 3s of any classification float my boat. Oh, and last but not least, I love big, regmaglyped complete irons of all kinds. There is something about a large iron meteorite that captures the attention and imagination of most people. gary This brings up another idea for a thread: What class or type of meteorite to you collect the most and are most interested it? I myself like rare ungrouped achondrites and my favorite is the Angrites. Greg S. Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] USB 2.0 mp Digital Camera
Hey Darren, when I try to access your page my anti-virus blocks the page reporting the recognition of the pattern for the HTML/Crypted.Gen HTML script virus. You might want to check your site and anyone who accessed the page may want to check their machine too. -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 --- On Tue, 7/6/10, Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net wrote: From: Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] USB 2.0 mp Digital Camera To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 4:53 PM On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 14:46:02 -0700, you wrote: I've been thinking of getting one of these for a while. Has anybody used this for taking pics of micros and larger slices of meteorites? Is the cheaper 1.3 mp a better deal? I have a 1.3 megapixel version, with only 4 LED lights (paid more than the price for the one you linked.) There was a thread about it on the list at the time. I put up some photos taken with it here: http://www.angelfire.com/d20/darren_garrison/index.htm (Photos tweaked in software in post.) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] USB 2.0 mp Digital Camera - VIRUS ALERT
That angelfire website you are refering to has a trojan and anybody who clicked it should get some virus protection immeadiately. --- On Tue, 6/7/10, Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net wrote: From: Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] USB 2.0 mp Digital Camera To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Received: Tuesday, 6 July, 2010, 4:53 PM On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 14:46:02 -0700, you wrote: I've been thinking of getting one of these for a while. Has anybody used this for taking pics of micros and larger slices of meteorites? Is the cheaper 1.3 mp a better deal? I have a 1.3 megapixel version, with only 4 LED lights (paid more than the price for the one you linked.) There was a thread about it on the list at the time. I put up some photos taken with it here: http://www.angelfire.com/d20/darren_garrison/index.htm (Photos tweaked in software in post.) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] [Fwd: Re: USB 2.0 mp Digital Camera]
Original Message Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] USB 2.0 mp Digital Camera From:Bob WALKER qwal...@mailbox.ezadsl.net.au Date:Wed, July 7, 2010 9:02 am To: cyna...@charter.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com -- Darren I fear you have confirmed what others and I may have thought... The ebay sale of the 1.3 mp camera infers a digital polarized microscope - however this appears to be a polarize fuction to reduce ambient glare rather than true xpol light as your photos tend to confirm ? I worry just how many buyers have been misled if not gypped by this seemingly misleading sales title Most listoids would agree that whilst it is wonderful to view thin-sections in plane polarised light... the outcome we ultimately seek is to see the vivid colours and patterns we so much enjoy that are only viewable under true cross polarized light Perhaps we should address this discussion to other listoids who may be able to suggest the most cost effective solution to take pictures under true xpol light but I fear there is no quick and easy elegant and inexpensive solution ??? I do have a vague memory that Michael Blood had a cost-effective solution for sale but then again my memory can betray me Best Bob WALKER http://www.qmig.net On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 14:46:02 -0700, you wrote: I've been thinking of getting one of these for a while. Has anybody used this for taking pics of micros and larger slices of meteorites? Is the cheaper 1.3 mp a better deal? I have a 1.3 megapixel version, with only 4 LED lights (paid more than the price for the one you linked.) There was a thread about it on the list at the time. I put up some photos taken with it here: http://www.angelfire.com/d20/darren_garrison/index.htm (Photos tweaked in software in post.) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] USB 2.0 mp Digital Camera
Here are all the images in a zip. http://www.sendspace.com/file/4hu4w5 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] USB 2.0 mp Digital Camera
I used this guy's post to buy my camera He's a gem dealer I guess and knows his shitI guess. I love my camera, a sigma with a macro lens Barry http://www.yourgemologist.com/ISGForumsBoard/showthread.php?t=4962 On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey Darren, when I try to access your page my anti-virus blocks the page reporting the recognition of the pattern for the HTML/Crypted.Gen HTML script virus. You might want to check your site and anyone who accessed the page may want to check their machine too. -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 --- On Tue, 7/6/10, Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net wrote: From: Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] USB 2.0 mp Digital Camera To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 4:53 PM On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 14:46:02 -0700, you wrote: I've been thinking of getting one of these for a while. Has anybody used this for taking pics of micros and larger slices of meteorites? Is the cheaper 1.3 mp a better deal? I have a 1.3 megapixel version, with only 4 LED lights (paid more than the price for the one you linked.) There was a thread about it on the list at the time. I put up some photos taken with it here: http://www.angelfire.com/d20/darren_garrison/index.htm (Photos tweaked in software in post.) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] USB 2.0 mp Digital Camera
I used this guy's post to buy my camera He's a gem dealer I guess and knows his shitI guess. I love my camera, a sigma with a macro lens Barry http://www.yourgemologist.com/ISGForumsBoard/showthread.php?t=4962 On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey Darren, when I try to access your page my anti-virus blocks the page reporting the recognition of the pattern for the HTML/Crypted.Gen HTML script virus. You might want to check your site and anyone who accessed the page may want to check their machine too. -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 --- On Tue, 7/6/10, Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net wrote: From: Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] USB 2.0 mp Digital Camera To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 4:53 PM On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 14:46:02 -0700, you wrote: I've been thinking of getting one of these for a while. Has anybody used this for taking pics of micros and larger slices of meteorites? Is the cheaper 1.3 mp a better deal? I have a 1.3 megapixel version, with only 4 LED lights (paid more than the price for the one you linked.) There was a thread about it on the list at the time. I put up some photos taken with it here: http://www.angelfire.com/d20/darren_garrison/index.htm (Photos tweaked in software in post.) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Join us on FB
Dear List, Historic Meteorites has a new Facebook page and you are invited to like or bookmark it: http://www.facebook.com/Meteorites1 Of course, you don't have to be a Facebook member to view photos or info. You can simply bookmark the link above and check it whenever you want. For the most part, though, it is simply a place for me to share fun images and facts on meteorites, early publications, and new (and old) discoveries. We'll have some fun stuff in the future including some exclusive offers on material that I don't believe has ever been offered before (maybe once?). New material will also be offered here before it goes on the website or met-list. Thanks for looking! --- Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com or join us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/meteorite1 IMCA #5765 --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] USB 2.0 mp Digital Camera
Darren I fear you have confirmed what others and I may have thought... The ebay sale of the 1.3 mp camera infers a digital polarized microscope - however this appears to be a polarize fuction to reduce ambient glare rather than true xpol light as your photos tend to confirm ? I worry just how many buyers have been misled if not gypped by this seemingly misleading sales title Most listoids would agree that whilst it is wonderful to view thin-sections in plane polarised light... the outcome we ultimately seek is to see the vivid colours and patterns we so much enjoy that are only viewable under true cross polarized light Perhaps we should address this discussion to other listoids who may be able to suggest the most cost effective solution to take pictures under true xpol light but I fear there is no quick and easy elegant and inexpensive solution ??? I do have a vague memory that Michael Blood had a cost-effective solution for sale but then again my memory can betray me Best Bob WALKER http://www.qmig.net On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 14:46:02 -0700, you wrote: I've been thinking of getting one of these for a while. Has anybody used this for taking pics of micros and larger slices of meteorites? Is the cheaper 1.3 mp a better deal? I have a 1.3 megapixel version, with only 4 LED lights (paid more than the price for the one you linked.) There was a thread about it on the list at the time. I put up some photos taken with it here: http://www.angelfire.com/d20/darren_garrison/index.htm (Photos tweaked in software in post.) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] USB 2.0 mp Digital Camera
Last week I got a Veho VMS-004 Deluxe 400x USB Powered Microscope 1.3MP Which I bought of ebay for $43 Here is some photos I took. http://www.meteoriteshop.com/photos/microphotos.html You will notice on the meteorite photo that the image is blurry around the edges. The segments in my ruler is 1/2mm so as you can imagine the stuff is pretty small. I never knew there was anything between the fossil stingray teeth for example. I am getting (Just barely) passable gemstone photos for ebay auctions but the field of view is so small that it will only work up to about a 4 or 5 carat stone. There is some fiddling that I am doing though and will probably figure things out as I use it more. It does have an adjustable light strength which is good (I can even turn the light completely off). This is a nifty feature that many (Especially the ones sold at coin fairs) dont seem to have. I probably should have got a more expensive one but even at $43 it is better than several others that I have used that cost over $100 so this thing is good value compared to some others anyway. There dont seem to be a on/off switch and you have to pull it out of the ubs port to turn it off. Cheers DEAN __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [Fwd: Re: USB 2.0 mp Digital Camera]
Hi Bob all, Unfortunately, Jim Tobin quit making the MBC-10 And the universal adaptors for Xpolarized lighting. Those Who got one are most fortunate, as I treasure mine, for Sure. You can always get one of those $15K polarized microscopes Or Jerry-rig a set up yourself - however, beware that The vast majority of polarized filters for cameras are Now CIRCULAR and cannot be used. (You must have Two linear polarized filters - one of which can rotate for The maximum effect. At one time, I had a substantial array of TS s for sale, But trash flooded the market from other sources and I Stopped having TS s made, though I still offer some of the Better ones as well as some of the Rarer ones left over from the old days. However, since Anne Black is currently the leading seller of Meteorite thin sections in the world (she also has all of ET's world class collection for sale) perhaps she would Be willing to contribute information on the best, the cheapest Set ups for viewing and for photography. However, No one should hope to replicate cheaply the following: the astonishing work of Tom Phillips: http://www.meteorite.com/meteorite-gallery/ or of John Kashuba: http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2010/june/Micro_Visions.htm (both brought to us by METEORITE TIMES) Or the work of Bob Walker's friends he generously shares (note - Bob changes these photos from one fall/find to another Without notice - his current selection is low in color, but past Postings of Mossgiel, NWA 1955 Cole Creek were all FABULOUS): http://www.qmig.net/thin-slides.htm Perhaps Tom or John would be willing to write an article For us in METEORITE TIMES on how to most economically Produce high quality Thin Section viewing and photos for ourselves??? RSVP anyone? Warm regards, Michael Blood On 7/6/10 4:40 PM, Met. Bob Walker (Oz Dog) qwal...@mailbox.ezadsl.net.au wrote: Original Message Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] USB 2.0 mp Digital Camera From:Bob WALKER qwal...@mailbox.ezadsl.net.au Date:Wed, July 7, 2010 9:02 am To: cyna...@charter.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com -- Darren I fear you have confirmed what others and I may have thought... The ebay sale of the 1.3 mp camera infers a digital polarized microscope - however this appears to be a polarize fuction to reduce ambient glare rather than true xpol light as your photos tend to confirm ? I worry just how many buyers have been misled if not gypped by this seemingly misleading sales title Most listoids would agree that whilst it is wonderful to view thin-sections in plane polarised light... the outcome we ultimately seek is to see the vivid colours and patterns we so much enjoy that are only viewable under true cross polarized light Perhaps we should address this discussion to other listoids who may be able to suggest the most cost effective solution to take pictures under true xpol light but I fear there is no quick and easy elegant and inexpensive solution ??? I do have a vague memory that Michael Blood had a cost-effective solution for sale but then again my memory can betray me Best Bob WALKER http://www.qmig.net On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 14:46:02 -0700, you wrote: I've been thinking of getting one of these for a while. Has anybody used this for taking pics of micros and larger slices of meteorites? Is the cheaper 1.3 mp a better deal? I have a 1.3 megapixel version, with only 4 LED lights (paid more than the price for the one you linked.) There was a thread about it on the list at the time. I put up some photos taken with it here: http://www.angelfire.com/d20/darren_garrison/index.htm (Photos tweaked in software in post.) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [Fwd: Re: USB 2.0 mp Digital Camera]
Hi Mike and List, Thanks for the generous compliment Mike! I am often asked about the best microscope to buy. I wrote a MT article called The Right Microscope For You http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2008/may/Micro_Visions.htm The key is to decide what you want to accomplish before any microscope selection. These USB microscopes with Xpol features are not bad. Any incident (reflected) light microscope will not give the intense color of transmitted (pass through) cross polarized light. These USB Xpol set ups are cheap and they do a good job of what they are designed to do. Some of my favorite images are reflected light chondrule shots. Largely true color. The NWA 6075 Lodranite images on my gallery show just how interesting reflected light can be. Please take a look. http://www.meteorite.com/meteorite-gallery/articles/nwa-6075/ These images are taken in the same principle as the USB microscopes. If you want a low cost color producing thin section machine you can still use the simple USB microscope but the USB microscope lighting must be turned off and you will need to set up a polarizing fixture. I like a fiber optic light panel with two large camera linear polarizing filters. I bought several huge polarizers on eBay for less than $10 each. You will need two. Simply place the thin section between the filters and use a bright light source of your choice. The USB microscope can then be used to magnify the cross polarized light colors. Over the past few years I have picked up a few old polarimeters. The kind used for thin film study or strain gauge set ups like those from Strainoptics. These make for nice full thin section viewing and are often equipped with retardation plates which will intensify the colors. For high magnification however, there is no substitute for quality optics and that is seldom cheap. Tom Phillips In a message dated 7/6/2010 6:28:16 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, mlbl...@cox.net writes: Hi Bob all, Unfortunately, Jim Tobin quit making the MBC-10 And the universal adaptors for Xpolarized lighting. Those Who got one are most fortunate, as I treasure mine, for Sure. You can always get one of those $15K polarized microscopes Or Jerry-rig a set up yourself - however, beware that The vast majority of polarized filters for cameras are Now CIRCULAR and cannot be used. (You must have Two linear polarized filters - one of which can rotate for The maximum effect. At one time, I had a substantial array of TS s for sale, But trash flooded the market from other sources and I Stopped having TS s made, though I still offer some of the Better ones as well as some of the Rarer ones left over from the old days. However, since Anne Black is currently the leading seller of Meteorite thin sections in the world (she also has all of ET's world class collection for sale) perhaps she would Be willing to contribute information on the best, the cheapest Set ups for viewing and for photography. However, No one should hope to replicate cheaply the following: the astonishing work of Tom Phillips: http://www.meteorite.com/meteorite-gallery/ or of John Kashuba: http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2010/june/Micro_Visions.htm (both brought to us by METEORITE TIMES) Or the work of Bob Walker's friends he generously shares (note - Bob changes these photos from one fall/find to another Without notice - his current selection is low in color, but past Postings of Mossgiel, NWA 1955 Cole Creek were all FABULOUS): http://www.qmig.net/thin-slides.htm Perhaps Tom or John would be willing to write an article For us in METEORITE TIMES on how to most economically Produce high quality Thin Section viewing and photos for ourselves??? RSVP anyone? Warm regards, Michael Blood On 7/6/10 4:40 PM, Met. Bob Walker (Oz Dog) qwal...@mailbox.ezadsl.net.au wrote: Original Message Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] USB 2.0 mp Digital Camera From:Bob WALKER qwal...@mailbox.ezadsl.net.au Date:Wed, July 7, 2010 9:02 am To: cyna...@charter.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com -- Darren I fear you have confirmed what others and I may have thought... The ebay sale of the 1.3 mp camera infers a digital polarized microscope - however this appears to be a polarize fuction to reduce ambient glare rather than true xpol light as your photos tend to confirm ? I worry just how many buyers have been misled if not gypped by this seemingly misleading sales title Most listoids would agree that whilst it is wonderful to view thin-sections in plane polarised light... the outcome we ultimately seek is to see the vivid colours and patterns we so much enjoy that are only viewable under true cross polarized light Perhaps we should
Re: [meteorite-list] [Fwd: Re: USB 2.0 mp Digital Camera]
Hello Michael and all, Thank you Michael for the vote of confidence and the recommendation, I certainly appreciate. However I certainly could not write such an article, I don't even own a microscope!! Yes, I do have very high quality thin-sections, and a great many of them, but it is John Kashuba who takes all those pictures you see on the Thin-Ssection page on my site and who makes them look so brilliant and clear. Maybe if we all ask him, we might convince him to write such an article for either Meteorite-Times online or for his Centerpiece column in MeteoriteMagazine. What do you think? Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) In a message dated 7/6/2010 6:28:16 PM Mountain Daylight Time, mlbl...@cox.net writes: Unfortunately, Jim Tobin quit making the MBC-10 And the universal adaptors for Xpolarized lighting. Those Who got one are most fortunate, as I treasure mine, for Sure. You can always get one of those $15K polarized microscopes Or Jerry-rig a set up yourself - however, beware that The vast majority of polarized filters for cameras are Now CIRCULAR and cannot be used. (You must have Two linear polarized filters - one of which can rotate for The maximum effect. At one time, I had a substantial array of TS s for sale, But trash flooded the market from other sources and I Stopped having TS s made, though I still offer some of the Better ones as well as some of the Rarer ones left over from the old days. However, since Anne Black is currently the leading seller of Meteorite thin sections in the world (she also has all of ET's world class collection for sale) perhaps she would Be willing to contribute information on the best, the cheapest Set ups for viewing and for photography. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] wrong weblink should be http://www.qmig.net/thinsection
Michael Correct weblink is http://www.qmig.net/thinsection The other webpage is from my Queensland meteorites website with a pic of a slide of WINTON 2 - WINTON 2 is another one I need to get micrographed as a priority - it's probably the most scientifically significant meteorite to ever come out of Australia... shhh... secret squirrel Cole Creek and NWA 1955 are still there I may put Mossgiel back - I personally think it was the best of the bunch so far Bob WALKER http://www.qmig.net/thinsection Hi Bob all, Unfortunately, Jim Tobin quit making the MBC-10 And the universal adaptors for Xpolarized lighting. Those Who got one are most fortunate, as I treasure mine, for Sure. You can always get one of those $15K polarized microscopes Or Jerry-rig a set up yourself - however, beware that The vast majority of polarized filters for cameras are Now CIRCULAR and cannot be used. (You must have Two linear polarized filters - one of which can rotate for The maximum effect. At one time, I had a substantial array of TS s for sale, But trash flooded the market from other sources and I Stopped having TS s made, though I still offer some of the Better ones as well as some of the Rarer ones left over from the old days. However, since Anne Black is currently the leading seller of Meteorite thin sections in the world (she also has all of ET's world class collection for sale) perhaps she would Be willing to contribute information on the best, the cheapest Set ups for viewing and for photography. However, No one should hope to replicate cheaply the following: the astonishing work of Tom Phillips: http://www.meteorite.com/meteorite-gallery/ or of John Kashuba: http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2010/june/Micro_Visions.htm (both brought to us by METEORITE TIMES) Or the work of Bob Walker's friends he generously shares (note - Bob changes these photos from one fall/find to another Without notice - his current selection is low in color, but past Postings of Mossgiel, NWA 1955 Cole Creek were all FABULOUS): http://www.qmig.net/thin-slides.htm Perhaps Tom or John would be willing to write an article For us in METEORITE TIMES on how to most economically Produce high quality Thin Section viewing and photos for ourselves??? RSVP anyone? Warm regards, Michael Blood On 7/6/10 4:40 PM, Met. Bob Walker (Oz Dog) qwal...@mailbox.ezadsl.net.au wrote: Original Message Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] USB 2.0 mp Digital Camera From:Bob WALKER qwal...@mailbox.ezadsl.net.au Date:Wed, July 7, 2010 9:02 am To: cyna...@charter.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com -- Darren I fear you have confirmed what others and I may have thought... The ebay sale of the 1.3 mp camera infers a digital polarized microscope - however this appears to be a polarize fuction to reduce ambient glare rather than true xpol light as your photos tend to confirm ? I worry just how many buyers have been misled if not gypped by this seemingly misleading sales title Most listoids would agree that whilst it is wonderful to view thin-sections in plane polarised light... the outcome we ultimately seek is to see the vivid colours and patterns we so much enjoy that are only viewable under true cross polarized light Perhaps we should address this discussion to other listoids who may be able to suggest the most cost effective solution to take pictures under true xpol light but I fear there is no quick and easy elegant and inexpensive solution ??? I do have a vague memory that Michael Blood had a cost-effective solution for sale but then again my memory can betray me Best Bob WALKER http://www.qmig.net On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 14:46:02 -0700, you wrote: I've been thinking of getting one of these for a while. Has anybody used this for taking pics of micros and larger slices of meteorites? Is the cheaper 1.3 mp a better deal? I have a 1.3 megapixel version, with only 4 LED lights (paid more than the price for the one you linked.) There was a thread about it on the list at the time. I put up some photos taken with it here: http://www.angelfire.com/d20/darren_garrison/index.htm (Photos tweaked in software in post.) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] USB 2.0 mp Digital Camera - VIRUS ALERT
My link is safe...and those have not seen it, I recommend http://www.yourgemologist.com/ISGForumsBoard/showthread.php?t=4962 On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 7:38 PM, dean bessey deanbes...@yahoo.com wrote: That angelfire website you are refering to has a trojan and anybody who clicked it should get some virus protection immeadiately. --- On Tue, 6/7/10, Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net wrote: From: Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] USB 2.0 mp Digital Camera To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Received: Tuesday, 6 July, 2010, 4:53 PM On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 14:46:02 -0700, you wrote: I've been thinking of getting one of these for a while. Has anybody used this for taking pics of micros and larger slices of meteorites? Is the cheaper 1.3 mp a better deal? I have a 1.3 megapixel version, with only 4 LED lights (paid more than the price for the one you linked.) There was a thread about it on the list at the time. I put up some photos taken with it here: http://www.angelfire.com/d20/darren_garrison/index.htm (Photos tweaked in software in post.) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] USB 2.0 mp Digital Camera
On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 23:05:09 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: Yeah. Darren. Looks like you have a Trojan on those chondrite photos. Then Angelfire has a trojan, and if it is real and not a false positive (no signs of anything here with Firefox and pop-up, flash, and ad blockers) there's nothing I can do about it. Angelfire attaches it's own ads to pages. The gallery was generated by an applet in Photoshop, and is nothing but HTML. The pages have been sitting there since Oct. 2007. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] USB 2.0 mp Digital Camera
Yeah. Darren. Looks like you have a Trojan on those chondrite photos. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com Sent: Jul 6, 2010 7:34 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, cyna...@charter.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] USB 2.0 mp Digital Camera Hey Darren, when I try to access your page my anti-virus blocks the page reporting the recognition of the pattern for the HTML/Crypted.Gen HTML script virus. You might want to check your site and anyone who accessed the page may want to check their machine too. -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 --- On Tue, 7/6/10, Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net wrote: From: Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] USB 2.0 mp Digital Camera To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 4:53 PM On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 14:46:02 -0700, you wrote: I've been thinking of getting one of these for a while. Has anybody used this for taking pics of micros and larger slices of meteorites? Is the cheaper 1.3 mp a better deal? I have a 1.3 megapixel version, with only 4 LED lights (paid more than the price for the one you linked.) There was a thread about it on the list at the time. I put up some photos taken with it here: http://www.angelfire.com/d20/darren_garrison/index.htm (Photos tweaked in software in post.) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] mossgiel thin-section webpage restored !
Michael and other lesser listoids Due to popular demand I have restored the MOSSGIEL meteorite thin-section webpage http://www.qmig.net/mossgiel HUCKITTA has been retired... I have to admit that MOSSGIEL had been my favourite so far so back it goes ! Thin-section index webpage http://www.qmig.net/thinsection updated too ! And a gentle reminder to Michael you gave the listoids the wrong hyperlink to the index page - and yep your faves COLE CREEK and NWA 1955 are there too I second all the posts that call for an article on a inexpensive but elegant solution for readers to view and photograph their thin-sections in xpol light - any takers for the definitive article to bowl this one out once and for all ? I'll be out of action for a week or so because I'll be admitted to hospital tomorrow but youse can expect an update to my thin-section webpages next week with a few surprises ! I'd gently remind listoids that I have asked youse if I can SHORT-TERM borrow any interesting or pretty thin-sections to micrograph - very little help so far... the endstate I seek is a few pages on each type/classification with a must-have book to be written by a colleague Signing off for now Bob WALKER http://www.qmig.net/thinsection Hi Bob all, Unfortunately, Jim Tobin quit making the MBC-10 And the universal adaptors for Xpolarized lighting. Those Who got one are most fortunate, as I treasure mine, for Sure. You can always get one of those $15K polarized microscopes Or Jerry-rig a set up yourself - however, beware that The vast majority of polarized filters for cameras are Now CIRCULAR and cannot be used. (You must have Two linear polarized filters - one of which can rotate for The maximum effect. At one time, I had a substantial array of TS s for sale, But trash flooded the market from other sources and I Stopped having TS s made, though I still offer some of the Better ones as well as some of the Rarer ones left over from the old days. However, since Anne Black is currently the leading seller of Meteorite thin sections in the world (she also has all of ET's world class collection for sale) perhaps she would Be willing to contribute information on the best, the cheapest Set ups for viewing and for photography. However, No one should hope to replicate cheaply the following: the astonishing work of Tom Phillips: http://www.meteorite.com/meteorite-gallery/ or of John Kashuba: http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2010/june/Micro_Visions.htm (both brought to us by METEORITE TIMES) Or the work of Bob Walker's friends he generously shares (note - Bob changes these photos from one fall/find to another Without notice - his current selection is low in color, but past Postings of Mossgiel, NWA 1955 Cole Creek were all FABULOUS): http://www.qmig.net/thin-slides.htm Perhaps Tom or John would be willing to write an article For us in METEORITE TIMES on how to most economically Produce high quality Thin Section viewing and photos for ourselves??? RSVP anyone? Warm regards, Michael Blood On 7/6/10 4:40 PM, Met. Bob Walker (Oz Dog) qwal...@mailbox.ezadsl.net.au wrote: Original Message Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] USB 2.0 mp Digital Camera From:Bob WALKER qwal...@mailbox.ezadsl.net.au Date:Wed, July 7, 2010 9:02 am To: cyna...@charter.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com -- Darren I fear you have confirmed what others and I may have thought... The ebay sale of the 1.3 mp camera infers a digital polarized microscope - however this appears to be a polarize fuction to reduce ambient glare rather than true xpol light as your photos tend to confirm ? I worry just how many buyers have been misled if not gypped by this seemingly misleading sales title Most listoids would agree that whilst it is wonderful to view thin-sections in plane polarised light... the outcome we ultimately seek is to see the vivid colours and patterns we so much enjoy that are only viewable under true cross polarized light Perhaps we should address this discussion to other listoids who may be able to suggest the most cost effective solution to take pictures under true xpol light but I fear there is no quick and easy elegant and inexpensive solution ??? I do have a vague memory that Michael Blood had a cost-effective solution for sale but then again my memory can betray me Best Bob WALKER http://www.qmig.net On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 14:46:02 -0700, you wrote: I've been thinking of getting one of these for a while. Has anybody used this for taking pics of micros and larger slices of meteorites? Is the cheaper 1.3 mp a better deal? I have a 1.3 megapixel version, with only 4 LED lights (paid more than the price for the one you
Re: [meteorite-list] Trends with WI Fall and alike for July
David is so right when he says We are not entitled to a certain price. This thread has drawn some pretty inane comments. Most are based on the question of why buyers have been unsuccssful in influencing sellers to offer their meteorites at lower prices. Particularly fresh offerings. What is it about a free market system that isn't broadly understood? Nobody has a gun to anyone's head to buy, or sell! The item becomes available. The seller asks a price. His price. There are no rules he has to follow. He offers it. You like it...you want it...then pay his price. If the price is too high for you then don't buy it. If enough buyers elect not to buy at the price offered...guess what? The price will come down. It's called, as David also said, supply and demand. Lets not try to argue the unarguable. It's maddening! Best, Count Deiro IMCA -Original Message- From: Greg Stanley stanleygr...@hotmail.com Sent: Jul 1, 2010 5:25 PM To: dr...@emersonhosp.org, star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com, Mike fuzzf...@comcast.net, mike meteoritem...@gmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, photoph...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Trends with WI Fall and alike for July List: What if during the next fall nobody pays the $100/gm price, then it will come down until people buy it. I know that will be hard to do, but the consumer can dictate the price. Although, there is the chance the sellers will not sell for less, then they have to keep them... the price will eventually come down, I would think. Oh well... it's all part of the hobby. Greg S. From: dr...@emersonhosp.org To: star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com; fuzzf...@comcast.net; meteoritem...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 20:42:09 + CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; photoph...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Trends with WI Fall and alike for July Again, it is a matter of supply and demand and whether an individual collector is willing to pay the price. The TKW for the WI fall is currently low, but that wasn't known when the $100/gm prices were being charged. Reports that the material was being bought from landownwers at $10/gm or less don't help the feeling among collectors that they were/are being gouged, but then it is an individual's choice to buy or not to buy. Nobody likes to feel that they are being taken advantage of, but if that is the way it feels, don't buy (I know that's hard!) As a collector, I don't like the price trends either, particularly when old, historic falls with museum provenance are sometimes cheaper per gram, but there is no right level for a fall, we are not entitled to a certain price. The market will decide. Best regards, David -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Greg Catterton Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 4:05 PM To: Mike Bandli; Galactic Stone Ironworks Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Shawn Alan Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Trends with WI Fall and alike for July The WI fall was a strange one. I think too many people were trying to get rich of others. Before anyone comes at me with the numbers of the trip, I know and I understand, but at the same time, it can be done for much less. When I see reports of the landowners selling the stones for less then $10 per gram (I know of several who would not pay more the $3 per gram!)and then see them selling it for $100/g or more, thats just too much... Why do you think the 2 kg stone was hushed up so much? I have seen pics of it, so have many others and yet nobody wants to act like it exists and people still call a 330g stone the main mass when in reality, its far from the main mass. I dont like the trend with new falls and the prices that go with them, its taking advantage of collectors. Thats the whole reason I sold my WI material at $60 or less when others were still getting $100 or more... and I got many mean emails filled with profanity over putting that price public... Why? They knew they it would hurt the value. I did not sell it for that to do that, I did it because its not worth any more then that, and anyone who says it is, I ask again, why? There is likely 10kg or more of the fall, its not rare by any means. Sure there is a price to pay for those that cant make it to the fall site, but when is it too much? Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Thu, 7/1/10, Galactic Stone Ironworks wrote: From: Galactic Stone Ironworks Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Trends with WI Fall and alike for July To: Mike Bandli Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Shawn Alan Date: Thursday, July 1, 2010, 2:40 PM In the end, I think
Re: [meteorite-list] USB 2.0 mp Digital Camera
Hi Mike and List, I was so preoccupied with finding the links in my last post I neglected to point out the omission of Jeff Hodges. Jeff is a skilled microscopist and has one of the largest thin section libraries (Institutional sized) in the world. His amazing images can be viewed at http://www.meteoritethinsectiongallery.com/index.html In addition to being a quiet giant in the field, he has been very generous with me, lending me most of the material that makes up my micrograph gallery. In the world of meteorite thin section examination, in my opinion, Jeff is as good as it gets. Tom Phillips In a message dated 7/6/2010 10:49:35 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, starsinthed...@aol.com writes: Hi Mike and List, I was so preoccupied with finding the links in my last post I neglected to point out the omission of Jeff Hodges. Jeff is a skilled microscopist and has one of the largest thin section libraries (Institutional sized) in the world. His amazing images can be viewed at http://www.meteoritethinsectiongallery.com/index.html In addition to being a quiet giant in the field, he has been very generous with me, lending me most of the material that makes up my micrograph gallery. In the world of meteorite thin section examination, in my opinion, Jeff is as good as it gets. Tom Phillips In a message dated 7/6/2010 6:28:16 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, mlbl...@cox.net writes: Hi Bob all, Unfortunately, Jim Tobin quit making the MBC-10 And the universal adaptors for Xpolarized lighting. Those Who got one are most fortunate, as I treasure mine, for Sure. You can always get one of those $15K polarized microscopes Or Jerry-rig a set up yourself - however, beware that The vast majority of polarized filters for cameras are Now CIRCULAR and cannot be used. (You must have Two linear polarized filters - one of which can rotate for The maximum effect. At one time, I had a substantial array of TS s for sale, But trash flooded the market from other sources and I Stopped having TS s made, though I still offer some of the Better ones as well as some of the Rarer ones left over from the old days. However, since Anne Black is currently the leading seller of Meteorite thin sections in the world (she also has all of ET's world class collection for sale) perhaps she would Be willing to contribute information on the best, the cheapest Set ups for viewing and for photography. However, No one should hope to replicate cheaply the following: the astonishing work of Tom Phillips: http://www.meteorite.com/meteorite-gallery/ or of John Kashuba: http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2010/june/Micro_Visions.htm (both brought to us by METEORITE TIMES) Or the work of Bob Walker's friends he generously shares (note - Bob changes these photos from one fall/find to another Without notice - his current selection is low in color, but past Postings of Mossgiel, NWA 1955 Cole Creek were all FABULOUS): http://www.qmig.net/thin-slides.htm Perhaps Tom or John would be willing to write an article For us in METEORITE TIMES on how to most economically Produce high quality Thin Section viewing and photos for ourselves??? RSVP anyone? Warm regards, Michael Blood On 7/6/10 4:40 PM, Met. Bob Walker (Oz Dog) qwal...@mailbox.ezadsl.net.au wrote: Original Message Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] USB 2.0 mp Digital Camera From:Bob WALKER qwal...@mailbox.ezadsl.net.au Date:Wed, July 7, 2010 9:02 am To:cyna...@charter.net Cc:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com -- Darren I fear you have confirmed what others and I may have thought... The ebay sale of the 1.3 mp camera infers a digital polarized microscope - however this appears to be a polarize fuction to reduce ambient glare rather than true xpol light as your photos tend to confirm ? I worry just how many buyers have been misled if not gypped by this seemingly misleading sales title Most listoids would agree that whilst it is wonderful to view thin-sections in plane polarised light... the outcome we ultimately seek is to see the vivid colours and patterns we so much enjoy that are only viewable under true cross polarized light Perhaps we should address this discussion to other listoids who may be able to suggest the most cost effective solution to take pictures under true xpol light but I fear there is no quick and easy elegant and inexpensive solution ??? I do have a vague memory that Michael Blood had a cost-effective solution for sale but then again my memory can betray me Best Bob WALKER http://www.qmig.net On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 14:46:02 -0700, you wrote: I've been thinking of getting one of these for a
