Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor shower meteorite dropping events
Chris, Eric, List, Mazapil is a very old argument, indeed. Take a look at: http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/full/2002M%26PS...37..649B or the same at the author's website: http://hyperion.cc.uregina.ca/~astro/Mazapil.pdf and this one: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc1987/pdf/1377.pdf Personally, the idea that comets drop iron meteorites is silly. The fact that this is the one and only example, out of thousands of falls, of the coinciding of a meteorite fall with a meteor shower suggests to me that when you flip coins often enough, a coin will land on its edge. Sterling K. Webb --- - Original Message - From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:34 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor shower meteorite dropping events Thanks for posting this Chris... This sounds like a good topic for an article for my magazine. If you're interested in it, and/or would like to write for the mag on this topic let me know. Anyone have a working theory based on evidence of this associative phenomena? I've heard many people suggest that meteor showers don't drop meteorites. Then I've heard people associate meteorite falls that happen during meteor showers with said shower. And I've also heard that people believe that there is ZERO connection and it's purely coincidence. So which is it? yay or nay, or maybe? or no one really knows...? Eric On 8/11/2010 8:59 PM, Chris Spratt wrote: I know of one meteor shower (November Andromedids) where an iron meteorite fell in Mazapil, Mexico during the shower. Are there any similar events? Chris Spratt Victoria, BC (Via my iPhone) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor shower meteorite dropping events
Hello Chris, Eric, The simple answer is no. No meteorites have ever been found that match all criteria for what we believe cometary material should look like. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/LPSC98/pdf/1004.pdf This is also the sort of topic that has been brought up again and again on the list. While I couldn't find any direct references for some reason, I was able to turn these up: http://www.mail-archive.com/meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com/msg84604.html http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2004-May/000683.html To condense: a few meteorites, namely the CI's, come close to what we think cometary material might look like. But those meteorites weren't associated with any known meteor showers, and are likely just fragments of D-class asteroids, which may or may not be remnants of burned-out comets (comets that got trapped in the inner solar system and stripped of most of their volatiles). But, based on the above paper, even the CI's are probably not actual cometary material, though they fit the bill better than most other meteorites, for sure. Suggesting that an iron meteorite like Mazapil might be associated with a comet is nigh on preposterous - comets aren't made of iron, and shouldn't have anything to do with such a meteorite. Comets are undifferentiated bodies that have generally remained icy since their formation over four and a half billion years ago. A two or three billion year old iron with a thompson structure that took the better part of a billion years to form simply could not be from a comet. http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2002M%26PS...37..649B Some more basic reading: http://www.amsmeteors.org/faqm.html#11 Scroll to section before bottom: Meteorites from Comets? http://www.pibburns.com/catastro/meteors.htm Best, Jason On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: Thanks for posting this Chris... This sounds like a good topic for an article for my magazine. If you're interested in it, and/or would like to write for the mag on this topic let me know. Anyone have a working theory based on evidence of this associative phenomena? I've heard many people suggest that meteor showers don't drop meteorites. Then I've heard people associate meteorite falls that happen during meteor showers with said shower. And I've also heard that people believe that there is ZERO connection and it's purely coincidence. So which is it? yay or nay, or maybe? or no one really knows...? Eric On 8/11/2010 8:59 PM, Chris Spratt wrote: I know of one meteor shower (November Andromedids) where an iron meteorite fell in Mazapil, Mexico during the shower. Are there any similar events? Chris Spratt Victoria, BC (Via my iPhone) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor shower meteorite dropping events
Haha, but Sterling -- I'd like to refer you to one of the posts (one of yours!) I linked to in my reply: http://www.mail-archive.com/meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com/msg84604.html The Wisconsin fall was another coincidence -- and it's not the only one. If you go through the fall calendars, more than a few meteorites have fallen on dates that coincide with known meteor showers. This is especially true if you take into account the fact that showers often produce meteors for weeks leading up to, and away from their peaks. Mazapil was deemed particularly interesting because it fell during a very strong outburst of activity from the shower with which it is associated. Granted, I'm in no way advocating the cometary origin of any meteorites. It's simply the result of the frequency of meteor showers and the frequency with which unrelated meteoric material reaches the earth...but it has happened more than once. Regards, Jason On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Chris, Eric, List, Mazapil is a very old argument, indeed. Take a look at: http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/full/2002M%26PS...37..649B or the same at the author's website: http://hyperion.cc.uregina.ca/~astro/Mazapil.pdf and this one: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc1987/pdf/1377.pdf Personally, the idea that comets drop iron meteorites is silly. The fact that this is the one and only example, out of thousands of falls, of the coinciding of a meteorite fall with a meteor shower suggests to me that when you flip coins often enough, a coin will land on its edge. Sterling K. Webb --- - Original Message - From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:34 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor shower meteorite dropping events Thanks for posting this Chris... This sounds like a good topic for an article for my magazine. If you're interested in it, and/or would like to write for the mag on this topic let me know. Anyone have a working theory based on evidence of this associative phenomena? I've heard many people suggest that meteor showers don't drop meteorites. Then I've heard people associate meteorite falls that happen during meteor showers with said shower. And I've also heard that people believe that there is ZERO connection and it's purely coincidence. So which is it? yay or nay, or maybe? or no one really knows...? Eric On 8/11/2010 8:59 PM, Chris Spratt wrote: I know of one meteor shower (November Andromedids) where an iron meteorite fell in Mazapil, Mexico during the shower. Are there any similar events? Chris Spratt Victoria, BC (Via my iPhone) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor shower meteorite dropping events
Hi Chris, There are many, many meteorites that fell during meteor showers as showers happen on a regular basis,e.g. Gemenids, Leonids, Persieds etc. etc. but that does not mean to say that the meteorite fall had any association with the shower. Graham, UK On 12 August 2010 04:59, Chris Spratt cspr...@islandnet.com wrote: I know of one meteor shower (November Andromedids) where an iron meteorite fell in Mazapil, Mexico during the shower. Are there any similar events? Chris Spratt Victoria, BC (Via my iPhone) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor shower meteorite dropping events
Hi, Jason, Chris, Eric, List, Now, I'm going to turn around and play Devil's Advocate and ridicule my own ridicule. Of course the iron Mazapil came from the Andromedid stream! Here's a good paper on the Andromedids and their parent body, Comet 3D/Biela: http://authors.library.caltech.edu/12800/1/JENaj07b.pdf From it, we learn that Comet 3D/Biela is a disintegrating comet that broke into two pieces at aphelion in 1842/43, but was trailing fragments both before and after that event. It is the source of the Andromedids, one of six comets associated with an annual meteor shower. The previous paper I cited, by Martin Beech, calculated the original size and mass of Mazapil, assuming it was in the Andromedid orbit and moving with the dust swarm, that is, had the same radiant and velocity as an Andromedid. It would have been a one-meter plus iron body of about 100 tons mass. The two pieces of 3D/Biela (called imaginatively enough, A and B) were observed the last time in 1852. A big search for A and B at the 1865/66 return of Biela failed to discover them. In the nineteenth century, comets were considered to be rubble piles anyway and even now, we think of them as weak and unconsolidated, so no one is surprised it vanished. The Andromedids were always a weak shower (a few hundred per hour) but after Biela's breakup, they started to put on big shows. In 1885, 15,000 meteors per hour! Obviously, there was a lot more material in the stream after the 1842 breakup and the Earth cut through a denser portion of that stream. Because we think of comets as inherently weak, we assign the breakup no other cause than that the comet was merely falling apart, like an old house collapsing, but what if it was hit by a 100-ton iron meteoroid? Biela has plenty of mass (10,000,000 tons) but a 100-ton fast impactor could do a lot of damage to a weak object, even one a million times heavier, if it hit it just right. Maybe fracture it into two pieces? The 100-ton chunk of iron would be completely undamaged by hitting a weak object, no matter how massive. It would dig into it, might even bore right through it, or suffer multiple collisions with the bigger cometary fragments of its own impact. A series of battering, uneven impacts with a disintegrating comet could steal away most of the kinetic energy of the iron wrecking ball. In fact, if the impact brought it to a relatively low energy of motion, the impactor would lose all of its vector. It would be what's called an inelastic collision. The mostly undamaged iron object would simply fall in and move on the same vector as the big mass it had hit, thus sharing its orbit. One basic rule of physics is that if you can do it with billiard balls, it can probably happen in the real world! If you drive a billiard ball at high speed into the belly of (very) giant plush teddy bear, it will not bounce away with much energy. It will nearly stop. And if the impactor, whatever its previous orbit was, fell into the Biela orbit, it could easily have been unfortunate enough to encounter the Earth in its path, as did the 100,000+ other fragments of Biela in 1885. If you have an iron meteorite that fell as part of an annual meteor shower, you pick it up and say, What's YOUR story, little rock? Improbable? Unlikely? A one-in-a-million chance? In a solar system 4.5 billion years old, a one-in-a-million chance means it's already happened 4500 times. Sterling K. Webb -- Footnote from paper above: If the bigger lost fragment A survives, it may be now hiding as a dormant comet. If so, K. Kinoshita calculated a particularly good encounter in 2010, when the dormant comet is expected to pass Earth at only 0.13 AU on November 3.25, following a close encounter with Jupiter (0.79AU) on 2009 March 13.5. Maybe an NEA hunt or WISE will find it. --- - Original Message - From: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com To: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net; Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 1:20 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor shower meteorite dropping events Haha, but Sterling -- I'd like to refer you to one of the posts (one of yours!) I linked to in my reply: http://www.mail-archive.com/meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com/msg84604.html The Wisconsin fall was another coincidence -- and it's not the only one. If you go through the fall calendars, more than a few meteorites have fallen on dates that coincide with known meteor showers. This is especially true if you take into account the fact that showers often produce meteors for weeks leading up to, and away from their peaks. Mazapil was deemed particularly interesting because it fell during a very strong outburst of activity from the shower with which it is associated. Granted, I'm in no way advocating the
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor shower meteorite dropping events
I remember when the first results from the Stardust mission were coming out. Everyone was surprised to see the the CI chondrites did not match as well as first thought and that the best match were the metal-rich CH chondrites. I'm not sure what the studies have shown since then but maybe someone else here knows of recent papers? Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: cspr...@islandnet.com Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor shower meteorite dropping events Chris, Eric, List, Mazapil is a very old argument, indeed. Take a look at: http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/full/2002M%26PS...37..649B or the same at the author's website: http://hyperion.cc.uregina.ca/~astro/Mazapil.pdf and this one: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc1987/pdf/1377.pdf Personally, the idea that comets drop iron meteorites is silly. The fact that this is the one and only example, out of thousands of falls, of the coinciding of a meteorite fall with a meteor shower suggests to me that when you flip coins often enough, a coin will land on its edge. Sterling K. Webb --- - Original Message - From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:34 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor shower meteorite dropping events Thanks for posting this Chris... This sounds like a good topic for an article for my magazine. If you're interested in it, and/or would like to write for the mag on this topic let me know. Anyone have a working theory based on evidence of this associative phenomena? I've heard many people suggest that meteor showers don't drop meteorites. Then I've heard people associate meteorite falls that happen during meteor showers with said shower. And I've also heard that people believe that there is ZERO connection and it's purely coincidence. So which is it? yay or nay, or maybe? or no one really knows...? Eric On 8/11/2010 8:59 PM, Chris Spratt wrote: I know of one meteor shower (November Andromedids) where an iron meteorite fell in Mazapil, Mexico during the shower. Are there any similar events? Chris Spratt Victoria, BC (Via my iPhone) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Online PDF Files of Papers About the Planetology of Venus
Dr. Warren B. Hamilton (Distinguished Senior Scientist Department of Geophysics, Colorado School of Mines) has two summary papers about the geology of Venus, including notes about impact craters online and downloadable from his web page at: http://inside.mines.edu/~whamilto/ The papers are: Hamilton, W. B., 2007, An alternative Venus. in G. R. Foulger and D. M. Jurdy, eds., pp. 879-914, Plates, Plumes and Planetary Processes. Geological Society of America Special Paper 430. http://inside.mines.edu/~whamilto/H07_AltVenus_red.pdf Hamilton, W. B., 2005, Plumeless Venus preserves an ancient impact-accretionary surface, in G. R. Foulger, J. H. Natland, D. C. Presnall and D. L. Anderson, eds., pp. 781-814, Plates, Plumes, and Paradigms, Geological Society of America Special Paper 388. http://inside.mines.edu/~whamilto/H05_Venus_condensed.pdf This web pages also has PDF files of interesting papers about plate tectonics and mantle plumes. Also, from the “mantle plumes” web page there are: 1. “Discussion of An Alternative Venus” by Warren B. Hamilton at: http://www.mantleplumes.org/P%5E4/P%5E4Chapters/Hamilton_Discussion.pdf 2. “Venus' Coronae: Impact, Plume, or Other Origin” at: http://www.mantleplumes.org/P%5E4/P%5E4Chapters/JurdyP4AcceptedMS.pdf 3. “Discussion of Venus' coronae: impacts, plumes, or other origin? http://www.mantleplumes.org/P%5E4/P%5E4Chapters/Jurdy_Discussion.pdf and 4. Venus http://www.mantleplumes.org/TopPages/VenusTop.html http://www.mantleplumes.org/ Yours, Paul H. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor shower meteorite dropping events
Jeff: Why would you expect cometary dust particles to look like CIs. CIs are aqueously altered, and there is little indication that this would happen on a comet (though there were possible observations of this from some Deep Impact observations). You need a good deal of heating, enough to melt ice so that the water can alter the silicates. Interplanetary Dust Particles (IDPs) which are found mostly high in the atmosphere, are not aqueously altered and are thought to be derived from comets. Larry I remember when the first results from the Stardust mission were coming out. Everyone was surprised to see the the CI chondrites did not match as well as first thought and that the best match were the metal-rich CH chondrites. I'm not sure what the studies have shown since then but maybe someone else here knows of recent papers? Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: cspr...@islandnet.com Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor shower meteorite dropping events Chris, Eric, List, Mazapil is a very old argument, indeed. Take a look at: http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/full/2002M%26PS...37..649B or the same at the author's website: http://hyperion.cc.uregina.ca/~astro/Mazapil.pdf and this one: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc1987/pdf/1377.pdf Personally, the idea that comets drop iron meteorites is silly. The fact that this is the one and only example, out of thousands of falls, of the coinciding of a meteorite fall with a meteor shower suggests to me that when you flip coins often enough, a coin will land on its edge. Sterling K. Webb --- - Original Message - From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:34 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor shower meteorite dropping events Thanks for posting this Chris... This sounds like a good topic for an article for my magazine. If you're interested in it, and/or would like to write for the mag on this topic let me know. Anyone have a working theory based on evidence of this associative phenomena? I've heard many people suggest that meteor showers don't drop meteorites. Then I've heard people associate meteorite falls that happen during meteor showers with said shower. And I've also heard that people believe that there is ZERO connection and it's purely coincidence. So which is it? yay or nay, or maybe? or no one really knows...? Eric On 8/11/2010 8:59 PM, Chris Spratt wrote: I know of one meteor shower (November Andromedids) where an iron meteorite fell in Mazapil, Mexico during the shower. Are there any similar events? Chris Spratt Victoria, BC (Via my iPhone) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] terrene origin of NWA5400
Hi Stanley, It is good that this meteorite is attracting more and more attention from the outside of our small meteorite circle. But still scientists who are working on the stone may not be able to firmly confirm its terrene origin since the oxygen isotope overlap with the earth data cannot prove its earth origin alone and we know that the enstatite and aubrite are in the same case. Just my personal opinion. I hope that more positive and couraging results for 5400 and 5363 can come from the research work. Kai __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ohio man claims struck by meteorite
http://www.wpxi.com/news/24606429/detail.html ...I think this is bull, but dig it! Mike A. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ohio man claims struck by meteorite
Strange things happen to strange people! There's no other explanation for it! -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 --- On Thu, 8/12/10, MIke Antonelli mfranci...@verizon.net wrote: From: MIke Antonelli mfranci...@verizon.net Subject: [meteorite-list] Ohio man claims struck by meteorite To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: mfranci...@verizon.net Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 8:21 AM http://www.wpxi.com/news/24606429/detail.html ...I think this is bull, but dig it! Mike A. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ohio man claims
HAHA His neighbor is laughing pretty hard right about now, I think... __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ohio man claims struck by meteorite
--- He said it was still warm when he plucked it from the pool. ... We asked 100 adults and the top 5 answers are on the board. Here is the question : How would a fresh-fallen meteorite feel? Contestant from Ohio says - it was still warm! As he turns and points to the board, the host says - Ok, show me it was still warm! SURVEY SAYS - X. (*harsh buzzer sound*) Oooh, I'm so sorry. On 8/12/10, Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com wrote: Strange things happen to strange people! There's no other explanation for it! -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 --- On Thu, 8/12/10, MIke Antonelli mfranci...@verizon.net wrote: From: MIke Antonelli mfranci...@verizon.net Subject: [meteorite-list] Ohio man claims struck by meteorite To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: mfranci...@verizon.net Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 8:21 AM http://www.wpxi.com/news/24606429/detail.html ...I think this is bull, but dig it! Mike A. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ohio man claims struck by meteorite
I think someone did pull a prank on him... Still hot after being in water... come on... Greg S. Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 08:21:43 -0700 From: mfranci...@verizon.net To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com CC: mfranci...@verizon.net Subject: [meteorite-list] Ohio man claims struck by meteorite http://www.wpxi.com/news/24606429/detail.html ...I think this is bull, but dig it! Mike A. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor shower meteorite dropping events
Hi List: Sterling K Webb mentioned this paper about 3/DBiela Here's a good paper on the Andromedids and their parent body, Comet 3D/Biela: http://authors.library.caltech.edu/12800/1/JENaj07b.pdf I see that one of my earlier essays on this comet was cited. I'd forgotten about that paper. Thanks. I wonder if any small sample of Mazapil are available for private collectors? Chris. Spratt Victoria, BC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ohio man claims struck by meteorite
Butbut...what if there was very hot water in the poolright?? - Original Message - From: Thunder Stone stanleygr...@hotmail.com To: mfranci...@verizon.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ohio man claims struck by meteorite I think someone did pull a prank on him... Still hot after being in water... come on... Greg S. Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 08:21:43 -0700 From: mfranci...@verizon.net To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com CC: mfranci...@verizon.net Subject: [meteorite-list] Ohio man claims struck by meteorite http://www.wpxi.com/news/24606429/detail.html ...I think this is bull, but dig it! Mike A. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3066 - Release Date: 08/12/10 08:34:00 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] bulk density testing
Hi List, I want to be sure that I'm fully understanding the correct method to perform bulk density tests. I'm attempting to follow the steps in the Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites. If someone would check me on this I would greatly appreciate it. Here is what I have been doing...I'm using a Palmscale 8.0. I'm weighing the specimen on the gram scale, then placing my little vial of water on there and after zeroing, I place the suspended specimen down in the water being sure not to touch the bottom. Using those two figures, I have been dividing the specimen's weight by the weight of the specimen suspended in the water. My most recent test gave me a 1.3g weight on the specimen by itself. Then a suspended weight of . 3. If I figured it correctly with my division, that gives me a 4.33 bulk density. The little specimen was not porous. Using this same procedure, I tested a different specimen, not related, and came up with a 4.555 result for it. Comparing those weights to meteorite densities in the chart in the Field Guide, the results indicate stony irons. It seems simple enough. Am I close? Mike in CO __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 3D/Biela A - Was Meteor shower meteorite dropping events
Hi List For those with nothing to do tonight during the Perseid meteor shower. I've plotted Comet 3D/Biela A using Kinoshita's orbit and found the comet lies in Pisces not too far from Messier 74. Clear skies and don't forget to wear your hardhats! Chris. Spratt Victoria, BC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Last Call For FABULOUS GEBEL KAMIL Specimens!
Hello, I will be removing the Best Offer feature this week on my Gebel Kamil specimens...so if you want one... get your offers in. After this week, they all will become long term inventory and the desire to quickly sell them diminishes greatly! SEE ALL ITEMS ON SALE IN MY STORE! http://stores.ebay.com/voyage-botanica-natural-history Thanks Michael Cottingham __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ohio man claims struck by meteorite
I watched the video again and for a brief moment you can see a child on the roof of his house h Greg S. Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 10:21:24 -0700 From: e...@meteoritesusa.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ohio man claims struck by meteorite Watch the video... ...Did it come from the Milky Way? Eric On 8/12/2010 8:21 AM, MIke Antonelli wrote: http://www.wpxi.com/news/24606429/detail.html ...I think this is bull, but dig it! Mike A. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ohio man claims struck by meteorite
I'm going to give this fellow the benefit of the doubt until I see some more on this. Mike in CO On Aug 12, 2010, at 9:21 AM, MIke Antonelli wrote: http://www.wpxi.com/news/24606429/detail.html ...I think this is bull, but dig it! Mike A. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ohio man claims struck by meteorite
Wouldn't it go clean through his body and then explode in the pool like what happened in California. Remember on 1000's Way To Die, cable TV show. The funny thing is I just saw that episode the other day. Cool special effects. Greg S. Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 08:21:43 -0700 From: mfranci...@verizon.net To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com CC: mfranci...@verizon.net Subject: [meteorite-list] Ohio man claims struck by meteorite http://www.wpxi.com/news/24606429/detail.html ...I think this is bull, but dig it! Mike A. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 3D/Biela A - Was Meteor shower meteorite dropping events
Paper on with references on Comet 3D/Biela: http://authors.library.caltech.edu/12800/1/JENaj07b.pdf Orbital elements here: http://jcometobs.web.fc2.com/pcmtn/0003d.htm Chris. Spratt Victoria, BC Marc Fries wrote: I did an online search and couldn't find anything - do you have a reference for Biela A? I'm officially intrigued... On Aug 12, 2010, at 10:30 AM, Chris Spratt wrote: Supposedly the largest part if there is anything actually left. Chris Spratt Victoria, BC (Via my iPhone) On 2010-08-12, at 10:27 AM, Marc Fries fr...@psi.edu wrote: Interesting - is this a fragment from comet Biela? On Aug 12, 2010, at 10:02 AM, Chris Spratt wrote: Hi List For those with nothing to do tonight during the Perseid meteor shower. I've plotted Comet 3D/Biela A using Kinoshita's orbit and found the comet lies in Pisces not too far from Messier 74. Clear skies and don't forget to wear your hardhats! Chris. Spratt Victoria, BC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor shower meteorite dropping events
Hi Sterling. Eric. Jason and all. IN Cosmic billiards nearly anything is possible. IF A 22 Bullit can cause an orange to flip upside down or spin. A large enough impact could also flip or spinn the earth. And its size would not have to be in the current range of an extinction event impactor. An meteor with enough mass hitting near either pole could cause a flip or change the orientation of the earth enough to cause an climatic disaster resulting in mass extinctions. The smaller masses currently considered to be not a threat could in reality cause a chain of events resulting in mass extinction. A meteorite a mile across might not be an extinction event if it impacts at the equator. But if it hits near either pole the results would be the same as if a larger impactor of 20miles across hit the equator or worse. I hope it never happens! Steve __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Hayabusa 2 Approved By Japanese Panel
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1008/11japan/ Asteroid probe, rocket get nod from Japanese panel BY STEPHEN CLARK SPACEFLIGHT NOW August 11, 2010 The board governing Japan's space program last week formally approved a successor to the Hayabusa asteroid explorer and the Epsilon small satellite launch vehicle to continue development. The Space Activities Commission decision gives the Japanese government authority to request funding for the programs in its budget for the next fiscal year, which begins in April. The government space panel, which has oversight of the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency, only gave the go-ahead for preliminary design work on Hayabusa 2, a mission projected to cost nearly $200 million. The commission recommended proceeding with full development of the Epsilon rocket, a new Japanese launcher to send small satellites into orbit beginning in 2013. The Hayabusa 2 mission would blast off as soon as 2014 and reach a carbon-rich asteroid in 2018 for a touch-and-go approach to collect samples. After spending a few months in the vicinity of the asteroid, the probe would return to Earth in 2020. The spacecraft's mission would replicate the feat accomplished by Hayabusa, the mission that completed the first round-trip journey to an asteroid in June. During its seven-year journey to and from asteroid Itokawa, Hayabusa suffered major glitches in its sample collection device, propulsion system and reaction wheels. But the probe released an entry capsule that landed in Australia, possibly with the first microscopic dust grains from the surface of an asteroid. Hayabusa 2 would incorporate improvements to the faulty systems that plagued its predecessor, but the craft would rely on the same fundamental design to slash costs. Junichiro Kawaguchi, Hayabusa's project manager, said a good indication was shown by the government in negotiations and hearings over the past few weeks. Precisely speaking, still we need some more time to make it actually appropriated. But most opinions say the mission shall be performed, Kawaguchi wrote in an e-mail to Spaceflight Now. Kawaguchi is managing the Hayabusa 2 proposal team, but he will relinquish leadership once the mission enters full development. Hayabusa 2 would target an asteroid named 1999 JU3, a C-type body with a diameter of about 1 kilometer, or 0.6 miles. Scientists say C-type asteroids are the unspoiled relics of the early solar system, which was dominated by small bodies as the planets coalesced. Itokawa, the destination for Hayabusa, is a stony rubble pile asteroid that formed from separate objects fusing together over time. Japan is moving forward with Hayabusa 2 after the Marco Polo mission, a joint asteroid probe with Europe, was not selected by an international panel of scientific advisors earlier this year. The budget decisions for JAXA are being considered as an economic stimulus, according to Kawaguchi. Yasuhiro Morita, the Epsilon rocket's project manager, said the new launch vehicle will be ready for service beginning in 2013. It will replace the M-5 rocket, a similar vehicle that flew seven times between 1997 and 2006. We've already spent three years on the preliminary design, Morita said. This is the actual start of the development. This is a good time for us. Now finished with preliminary development, engineers are focusing on a critical design review planned about 18 months from now. The Epsilon rocket will launch about once per year with small technology demonstration and scientific missions, starting with a craft named Sprint-A that will place a telescope into a 300-mile-high Earth orbit to observe Venus, Mars and Jupiter. The three-stage launcher is designed to lift more than 2,600 pounds to low Earth orbit. The M-5 rocket could haul about 4,000 pounds to a similar trajectory. Morita, who is also the former manager of the M-5 rocket program, said it will cost approximately $200 million to finish developing the Epsilon rocket, but it's much less expensive than the M-5, which carried a $70 million price for each launch. He would not discuss the Epsilon's cost per flight. For example, the M-5 first stage rocket motor was very expensive because it uses a big chamber and is in two segments. We had to assemble the two segments at the launch site, Morita said. Engineers will also design the Epsilon with more autonomy, making the rocket less labor-intensive and reducing the workforce required for launches. The launching performance of the M-5 was the best in the world for a solid rocket at the time, but operations took a lot of time and labor, Morita said in an interview with Spaceflight Now. As far as the Epsilon rocket, the sales point is its responsiveness. This is far beyond the M-5's capacity, so we can extend the solid rocket technology in Japan, not only in the launching capacity but also in operations. JAXA's goal is to have an inexpensive rocket ready to answer the needs of scientists and engineers
[meteorite-list] Speaking of Mazapil - Vienna Main Mass observations
Dear List, When visiting Austria's Natural History Museum in Vienna last month, I noticed a (for me) unexpected feature in Mazapil's Main Mass that was on display. http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/Mazapil_1.jpg It reminded me of a feature, sometimes visible in Individuals of the Sikhote Alin shower. There have been discussions about its origin, but it's typically considered to be an impact crater. A crater from an impact that occurred in a meteorite shower, in time somewhere around the retardation point. Here is a photo of Mazapil's crater: http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/Mazapil_2.jpg (I'm referring to the top-middle depression). Buchwald's Handbook of Iron Meteorites mentions only one Mazapil mass being discovered. Of course that is no proof it was the only piece falling down that evening in Mexico, but I assume the chance for obtaining an impact crater was significantly less than in the case of Sikhote Alin. As can be seen in this photo: http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/Mazapil_3.jpg , Mazapil contain many graphite-troilite nodules. The photo with the crater shows at least one of these nodules peeping out of the crust I think. The question that came up was: Did the feature I had always assumed to be an impact crater, really had an impact origin? I know the nodule peeping out does look somewhat different from the crater, and we do not know for sure there weren't more masses falling down, but anyway. wouldn't have expected to see this in Mazapil. Checking Buchwald's handbook when back home, I found Buchwald stating: The metallic fusion crust contains numerous spherical gasholes and globular iron oxide melts. in a chapter covering shapes and surface characteristics (Page 52, Figure 47). He is talking micro scale here. The description of the Mazapil iron shows a photograph of the Vienna mass, also showing the crater. The caption of this photo (Page 809, Figure 1115) states: . Regmaglyphts and a few circular depressions from ablated troilite nodules are visible. I'm not so sure anymore I saw an impact crater. (Remember the Main Mass is assumed to be flying in front in a stream.) Nothing to do with impact craters, but furthermore striking I found the account of Mazapil's Fall (Buchwald's Handbook of Iron Meteorites, Pages 809 and 810): http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/Mazapil_4.jpg Would we have judged this to be a false report without any second thought? :-) All the best, Rob Lenssen - Original Message - From: Chris Spratt cspr...@islandnet.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 5:59 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteor shower meteorite dropping events I know of one meteor shower (November Andromedids) where an iron meteorite fell in Mazapil, Mexico during the shower. Are there any similar events? Chris Spratt Victoria, BC (Via my iPhone) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteor Shower Meteorite dropping events (Mazapil: a repost - original post Sep 15, 2004)
Hi All, BEECH Martin (2002) The Mazapil meteorite: From paradigm to periphery (MAPS 37-5, 2002 May, pp. 649-660). . and, of course, there is the unsurpassable Vagn Buchwald: BUCHWALD, V.F. (1975) Handbook of Iron Meteorites, Volume 2, pp. 808-813. Some more pertinent references: HIDDEN W.E. (1887) On the Mazapil meteoric iron, which fell November 27th, 1885 (Am. J. Sci. 33, pp. 221-226). HARVEY A. (1904) Shooting stars versus uranoliths with special reference to the Mazapil (Mexico) meteorite (Selected Papers and Proceedings of the Royal Astronomical Society of Canada, ed. A. Harvey, pp. 30-51, Z.M. Collins, Toronto, Canada). WYLIE C.C. (1933) The temperature of the Mazapil meteorite (Popular Astronomy 41, pp. 408-410). Best wishes, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 2010 Perseids
Lots of rainids and cloudids where I live :-( Ugh! Aargh! Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2010 Perseids
Clear skies here in Holland BerndI'll count them here for you as well.. yeeehh... Jan - Original Message - From: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:52 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] 2010 Perseids Lots of rainids and cloudids where I live :-( Ugh! Aargh! Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3066 - Release Date: 08/12/10 08:34:00 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Perseids 2010
It's clearing up, Jan, ... it's clearing up and I captured my first 2010 Perseid visually at 23:05 CEDST... a very fast one streaking N = S! Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ohio man claims struck by meteorite
I don't know..I would want to talk to people he works with or neighbors. I would say there's a better than average chance he's telling the truth. I don't see him as one to read on the list or somewhere and know how fast it hits and how much it may be worth. The warm thing is probably something he would think it would be..the water in the pool is probably very warm. Rocks have low heat transfer rate also. It's pretty far from me, I would want someone else to find one before I trek across the state. On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:21 AM, MIke Antonelli mfranci...@verizon.net wrote: http://www.wpxi.com/news/24606429/detail.html ...I think this is bull, but dig it! Mike A. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Perseids 2010
Well lets hope these folks over The Big Pond are more lucky than I am. It's clear all evening and haven't seen a darn thing yet... Have fun Bernd and all of you far in the west. - Original Message - From: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 11:00 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Perseids 2010 It's clearing up, Jan, ... it's clearing up and I captured my first 2010 Perseid visually at 23:05 CEDST... a very fast one streaking N = S! Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3066 - Release Date: 08/12/10 08:34:00 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Perseids 2010
Have fun Bernd and all of you far in the west. 23:16:30 hrs = No. 3 extremely bright orange with a clearly visible smoke trail!!! Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Perseids 2010
Starting at about 10 o'clock, walking over the fields together with my dear wife, pretty cloudy sky with only a few windows to the stars and - yes indeed, 2 nice Perseids flashing silently in the West. One for each of us, that's not the richness of Aladin's cave, but we're happy about them and launched our wishes as fast and as silent as the meteors appeared and disappeared. Aladin couldn't have been luckier. Best, Matthias - Original Message - From: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 11:00 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Perseids 2010 It's clearing up, Jan, ... it's clearing up and I captured my first 2010 Perseid visually at 23:05 CEDST... a very fast one streaking N = S! Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Perseids 2010
Jan wrote: How long is it driving to Germany Exactly the same idea crossed my mind, only difference I was pondering how long it would take me to drive to Holland ... have never been there and my Pauline would like to see the tulips in spring there! Well, as for watching the Perseids, do not look directly toward the shower radiant but rather about 60° away from it. The closer you are to the radiant the shorter the trails are! Cygnus (the Swan) and Aquila (the Eagle) is always a promising place to look! Back into the garden for more Perseids (weather permitting - it's cloudy again!) Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Perseids 2010
It's mostly clear here tonight. I'm going to get my camera and catchers mit and get out there tonight. Barry On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 5:00 PM, bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote: It's clearing up, Jan, ... it's clearing up and I captured my first 2010 Perseid visually at 23:05 CEDST... a very fast one streaking N = S! Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Perseids 2010
Bernd, Last year Mary and I both saw one at the radiant. I thought there was some slight lateral movement. She said there was none. Only later did I vacillate between being scared that I (or she!) was a target and disappointed that these things have to burn up. Still a bright, warm afternoon here in SoCal. Another five or six hours before we take a drive up to the hills a little bit away from the lights. - John -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of bernd.pa...@paulinet.de Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 2:33 PM To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Perseids 2010 Jan wrote: How long is it driving to Germany Exactly the same idea crossed my mind, only difference I was pondering how long it would take me to drive to Holland ... have never been there and my Pauline would like to see the tulips in spring there! Well, as for watching the Perseids, do not look directly toward the shower radiant but rather about 60° away from it. The closer you are to the radiant the shorter the trails are! Cygnus (the Swan) and Aquila (the Eagle) is always a promising place to look! Back into the garden for more Perseids (weather permitting - it's cloudy again!) Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Perseids 2010
The weather isn't so great here, either. But I've got 88 Perseids recorded over the last few nights. I've got some images at http://www.cloudbait.com/science/perseid2010.html On the subject of distance from the radiant, note the video of one of the Perseid fireballs, which originated just 7° from the radiant, so was nearly head-on. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 3:33 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Perseids 2010 Jan wrote: How long is it driving to Germany Exactly the same idea crossed my mind, only difference I was pondering how long it would take me to drive to Holland ... have never been there and my Pauline would like to see the tulips in spring there! Well, as for watching the Perseids, do not look directly toward the shower radiant but rather about 60° away from it. The closer you are to the radiant the shorter the trails are! Cygnus (the Swan) and Aquila (the Eagle) is always a promising place to look! Back into the garden for more Perseids (weather permitting - it's cloudy again!) Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ohio man claims struck by meteorite
This whole benefit of the doubt and better than average chance thing is illogical. The guy's description says it all. Or rather the lack of data gives you plenty of information to draw a conclusion that no meteorite hit him much less fell in the area. There are NO reports of any fireballs from anywhere in the area. No reports of sonic booms which are always present in the immediate area of a meteorite fall, especially from someone close enough the be hit by falling debris. There are no other witnesses coming forward who saw the fireball that dropped this supposed meteorite. A meteorite is NOT hot when it lands. Especially if it fell in a pool! There are NO data at all that supports any inkling of fact to this story whatsoever. Not that the guy is lying, because he could very well believe a meteorite hit him, and he's probably a cool enough guy. My bet is he's just mistaken. It's interesting that we usually see people claiming to be witnesses in the days and weeks following a Meteorite Men marathon, or a meteorite fall somewhere else in the world. People get all excited, read a little about meteorites and think they know what they're talking about... Hell, some people even start magazines! Regards, Eric On 8/12/2010 2:14 PM, Barry Hughes wrote: I don't know..I would want to talk to people he works with or neighbors. I would say there's a better than average chance he's telling the truth. I don't see him as one to read on the list or somewhere and know how fast it hits and how much it may be worth. The warm thing is probably something he would think it would be..the water in the pool is probably very warm. Rocks have low heat transfer rate also. It's pretty far from me, I would want someone else to find one before I trek across the state. On 8/12/2010 10:37 AM, Michael Murray wrote: I'm going to give this fellow the benefit of the doubt until I see some more on this. Mike in CO On Aug 12, 2010, at 9:21 AM, MIke Antonelli wrote: http://www.wpxi.com/news/24606429/detail.html ...I think this is bull, but dig it! Mike A. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ohio man claims struck by meteorite
Hi Folks, Something to consider here, when weighing the responses from list members, is longevity on this list. For newer list members, this is the first, or second (or maybe third) time they have heard a story like this. Or, for list members who don't read every single post or skip posts, they might miss many of these stories. But for those of us who have been around here for a few years (or more) or for those of us who obsessively read every post, this is the Nth-teen time we have heard this exact same story. If one cares to go back into the depths of the list archives, there are hundreds of these stories posted to the list - and very few of them were posted because the story seemed plausible. Most were posted for boredom or amusement, because it's obvious that these stories are simply not true. All of these stories follow a template or a formula : 1) person finds a meteorite a) person is a boy scout b) person is a retired merchant marine c) person is a landscaper d) person is a kid out riding his bike 2) the meteorite ... a) fell during a cricket match b) fell during a bar-b-que c) fell during a camping trip d) fell during a meteor shower 3) after it fell, the meteorite a) struck a vehicle b) struck a person c) struck a house d) struck a tool shed 4) upon being found, the meteorite a) was glowing hot b) was hot to the touch c) was resting in a fresh crater d) made a buzzing sound 5) the finder took the meteorite and had it verified by a) a local geologist who has never seen a meteorite b) an economics professor at the local community college who has never seen a meteorite c) a meteorologist who said it looked like a meteorite (but has never seen one in person) d) a retired engineer who has never seen a meteorite 6) The first question the finder asks is - how much can I sell it for? If I had a dollar for every one of these stories that gets published, I could buy Strope's gorgeous Imilac football he was showing around Tucson. Best regards, MikeG Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone On 8/12/10, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: This whole benefit of the doubt and better than average chance thing is illogical. The guy's description says it all. Or rather the lack of data gives you plenty of information to draw a conclusion that no meteorite hit him much less fell in the area. There are NO reports of any fireballs from anywhere in the area. No reports of sonic booms which are always present in the immediate area of a meteorite fall, especially from someone close enough the be hit by falling debris. There are no other witnesses coming forward who saw the fireball that dropped this supposed meteorite. A meteorite is NOT hot when it lands. Especially if it fell in a pool! There are NO data at all that supports any inkling of fact to this story whatsoever. Not that the guy is lying, because he could very well believe a meteorite hit him, and he's probably a cool enough guy. My bet is he's just mistaken. It's interesting that we usually see people claiming to be witnesses in the days and weeks following a Meteorite Men marathon, or a meteorite fall somewhere else in the world. People get all excited, read a little about meteorites and think they know what they're talking about... Hell, some people even start magazines! Regards, Eric On 8/12/2010 2:14 PM, Barry Hughes wrote: I don't know..I would want to talk to people he works with or neighbors. I would say there's a better than average chance he's telling the truth. I don't see him as one to read on the list or somewhere and know how fast it hits and how much it may be worth. The warm thing is probably something he would think it would be..the water in the pool is probably very warm. Rocks have low heat transfer rate also. It's pretty far from me, I would want someone else to find one before I trek across the state. On 8/12/2010 10:37 AM, Michael Murray wrote: I'm going to give this fellow the benefit of the doubt until I see some more on this. Mike in CO On Aug 12, 2010, at 9:21 AM, MIke Antonelli wrote: http://www.wpxi.com/news/24606429/detail.html ...I think this is bull, but dig it! Mike A. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at
Re: [meteorite-list] 2010 Perseids
Nothin' but clear and blue in NW Indiana. Sorry Bernd:( Regards, Steve Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://imca.cc/ --- On Thu, 8/12/10, bernd.pa...@paulinet.de bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote: From: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de bernd.pa...@paulinet.de Subject: [meteorite-list] 2010 Perseids To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 2:52 PM Lots of rainids and cloudids where I live :-( Ugh! Aargh! Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 2010 Perseids
I live in Brooklyn and its raining and when its not raining the sky is lite up by all the lights from Bk and the city. By chance what time is the best to look at the meteor shower and what part of the sky? Shawn Alan [meteorite-list] 2010 Perseids Steve Witt stelor96 at yahoo.com Thu Aug 12 20:22:20 EDT 2010 Previous message: [meteorite-list] 2010 Perseids Next message: [meteorite-list] Perseids 2010 Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Nothin' but clear and blue in NW Indiana. Sorry Bernd:( Regards, Steve Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://imca.cc/ --- On Thu, 8/12/10, bernd.pauli at paulinet.de bernd.pauli at paulinet.de wrote: From: bernd.pauli at paulinet.de bernd.pauli at paulinet.de Subject: [meteorite-list] 2010 Perseids To: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 2:52 PM Lots of rainids and cloudids where I live :-( Ugh! Aargh! Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Previous message: [meteorite-list] 2010 Perseids Next message: [meteorite-list] Perseids 2010 Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the Meteorite-list mailing list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ohio man claims struck by meteorite
I would have to say I got a laugh about the guy and his encounter with a rock that he feels might be from space. I bet that's how alot of people on the List get when they are in an actual strewn field for the first time and looking for meteorites. But for this guy, he knows nothing about meteorites,nor what they look like, only what he might have seen on TV about rocks or heard from other people. With that in mind, he knows no better, nor does most of the country know better what a meteorite might look like. Heck 8 months ago if you asked me what fusion crust was on a meteorite I would have said come again... At any right, I like that the media and more people are taking an interest with meteorites and science. Shawn Alan [meteorite-list] Ohio man claims struck by meteorite Meteorites USA eric at meteoritesusa.com Thu Aug 12 20:10:21 EDT 2010 Previous message: [meteorite-list] Ohio man claims struck by meteorite Next message: [meteorite-list] Ohio man claims struck by meteorite Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] This whole benefit of the doubt and better than average chance thing is illogical. The guy's description says it all. Or rather the lack of data gives you plenty of information to draw a conclusion that no meteorite hit him much less fell in the area. There are NO reports of any fireballs from anywhere in the area. No reports of sonic booms which are always present in the immediate area of a meteorite fall, especially from someone close enough the be hit by falling debris. There are no other witnesses coming forward who saw the fireball that dropped this supposed meteorite. A meteorite is NOT hot when it lands. Especially if it fell in a pool! There are NO data at all that supports any inkling of fact to this story whatsoever. Not that the guy is lying, because he could very well believe a meteorite hit him, and he's probably a cool enough guy. My bet is he's just mistaken. It's interesting that we usually see people claiming to be witnesses in the days and weeks following a Meteorite Men marathon, or a meteorite fall somewhere else in the world. People get all excited, read a little about meteorites and think they know what they're talking about... Hell, some people even start magazines! Regards, Eric On 8/12/2010 2:14 PM, Barry Hughes wrote: I don't know..I would want to talk to people he works with or neighbors. I would say there's a better than average chance he's telling the truth. I don't see him as one to read on the list or somewhere and know how fast it hits and how much it may be worth. The warm thing is probably something he would think it would be..the water in the pool is probably very warm. Rocks have low heat transfer rate also. It's pretty far from me, I would want someone else to find one before I trek across the state. On 8/12/2010 10:37 AM, Michael Murray wrote: I'm going to give this fellow the benefit of the doubt until I see some more on this. Mike in CO On Aug 12, 2010, at 9:21 AM, MIke Antonelli wrote: http://www.wpxi.com/news/24606429/detail.html ...I think this is bull, but dig it! Mike A. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Previous message: [meteorite-list] Ohio man claims struck by meteorite Next message: [meteorite-list] Ohio man claims struck by meteorite Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the Meteorite-list mailing list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2010 Perseids
Hi Shawn and List, It will be severe clear tonight as pilots say here in Nevada. We got lucky. I rounded up the two youngest grandsons, Michael 12, and Vincent 10, and we'll get up at one o'clock and take the Jeep out into the pitch dark desert north of Las Vegas. We have lawn chairs, iced chocolate and coffee. Temp is forecasted to be 70 degrees Farenheit during the observation period. 105 degrees after the sun comes up. The boys will want to hunt meteorites on the way back. Best to all...and to those on the West Coast of America...good viewing! Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com Sent: Aug 12, 2010 10:48 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] 2010 Perseids I live in Brooklyn and its raining and when its not raining the sky is lite up by all the lights from Bk and the city. By chance what time is the best to look at the meteor shower and what part of the sky? Shawn Alan [meteorite-list] 2010 Perseids Steve Witt stelor96 at yahoo.com Thu Aug 12 20:22:20 EDT 2010 Previous message: [meteorite-list] 2010 Perseids Next message: [meteorite-list] Perseids 2010 Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Nothin' but clear and blue in NW Indiana. Sorry Bernd:( Regards, Steve Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://imca.cc/ --- On Thu, 8/12/10, bernd.pauli at paulinet.de bernd.pauli at paulinet.de wrote: From: bernd.pauli at paulinet.de bernd.pauli at paulinet.de Subject: [meteorite-list] 2010 Perseids To: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 2:52 PM Lots of rainids and cloudids where I live :-( Ugh! Aargh! Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Previous message: [meteorite-list] 2010 Perseids Next message: [meteorite-list] Perseids 2010 Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the Meteorite-list mailing list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2010 Perseids
Shawn, The best time to look is after midnight, and try to get as far away from city lights as you can. The shower's radiant (where the meteors all seem to come from) will be in the N.E. sky about midway between the constellations of Perseus and Cassiopeia. Cassiopeia looks like a big letter W. See: http://www.astronomy.com/asy/default.aspx?c=aid=10093 for further info and sky maps. Regards, Steve Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://imca.cc/ --- On Thu, 8/12/10, Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] 2010 Perseids To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 9:48 PM I live in Brooklyn and its raining and when its not raining the sky is lite up by all the lights from Bk and the city. By chance what time is the best to look at the meteor shower and what part of the sky? Shawn Alan [meteorite-list] 2010 Perseids Steve Witt stelor96 at yahoo.com Thu Aug 12 20:22:20 EDT 2010 Previous message: [meteorite-list] 2010 Perseids Next message: [meteorite-list] Perseids 2010 Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Nothin' but clear and blue in NW Indiana. Sorry Bernd:( Regards, Steve Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://imca.cc/ --- On Thu, 8/12/10, bernd.pauli at paulinet.de bernd.pauli at paulinet.de wrote: From: bernd.pauli at paulinet.de bernd.pauli at paulinet.de Subject: [meteorite-list] 2010 Perseids To: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 2:52 PM Lots of rainids and cloudids where I live :-( Ugh! Aargh! Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Previous message: [meteorite-list] 2010 Perseids Next message: [meteorite-list] Perseids 2010 Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the Meteorite-list mailing list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Perseids 2010
Hi Chis, You might see if you captured video of one that took place at 9:15 or thereabouts tonight. I watched it go from north to south or southeast a bit. It was west of Montrose. It was a spectacular thing to see with a long trail behind it. I'd call it a small fireball. I would be interested in knowing if you caught it on your cameras. I'd sure like to see it again if you did. Might have been a sporadic meteor. Mike in CO On Aug 12, 2010, at 4:53 PM, Chris Peterson wrote: The weather isn't so great here, either. But I've got 88 Perseids recorded over the last few nights. I've got some images at http://www.cloudbait.com/science/perseid2010.html On the subject of distance from the radiant, note the video of one of the Perseid fireballs, which originated just 7° from the radiant, so was nearly head-on. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 3:33 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Perseids 2010 Jan wrote: How long is it driving to Germany Exactly the same idea crossed my mind, only difference I was pondering how long it would take me to drive to Holland ... have never been there and my Pauline would like to see the tulips in spring there! Well, as for watching the Perseids, do not look directly toward the shower radiant but rather about 60° away from it. The closer you are to the radiant the shorter the trails are! Cygnus (the Swan) and Aquila (the Eagle) is always a promising place to look! Back into the garden for more Perseids (weather permitting - it's cloudy again!) Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Perseids 2010
It's not on my camera, although it could be on one of the others in the network. You can keep an eye on the overall activity in central Colorado by watching the real-time output of the Guffey camera at http://www.cloudbait.com/meteor/showraw.php . No images are posted here, but you might notice a common event with something witnessed, or see when activity picks up. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: Michael Murray mikebevmur...@gmail.com To: Chris Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Perseids 2010 Hi Chis, You might see if you captured video of one that took place at 9:15 or thereabouts tonight. I watched it go from north to south or southeast a bit. It was west of Montrose. It was a spectacular thing to see with a long trail behind it. I'd call it a small fireball. I would be interested in knowing if you caught it on your cameras. I'd sure like to see it again if you did. Might have been a sporadic meteor. Mike in CO __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2010 Perseids
I need the help from the list to come up with genius solution to my problem and devise a plan to have the whole city of NYC go dark around optimum view time of the meteor shower while i set on my fire escape with with trusty old Nikon d200 camera and take pics of the shower, any takers? Or I can just read about everyones adventures on here on the List. :) Shawn Alan --- On Thu, 8/12/10, Steve Witt stelo...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Steve Witt stelo...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 2010 Perseids To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 9:23 PM Shawn, The best time to look is after midnight, and try to get as far away from city lights as you can. The shower's radiant (where the meteors all seem to come from) will be in the N.E. sky about midway between the constellations of Perseus and Cassiopeia. Cassiopeia looks like a big letter W. See: http://www.astronomy.com/asy/default.aspx?c=aid=10093 for further info and sky maps. Regards, Steve Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://imca.cc/ --- On Thu, 8/12/10, Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] 2010 Perseids To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 9:48 PM I live in Brooklyn and its raining and when its not raining the sky is lite up by all the lights from Bk and the city. By chance what time is the best to look at the meteor shower and what part of the sky? Shawn Alan [meteorite-list] 2010 Perseids Steve Witt stelor96 at yahoo.com Thu Aug 12 20:22:20 EDT 2010 Previous message: [meteorite-list] 2010 Perseids Next message: [meteorite-list] Perseids 2010 Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Nothin' but clear and blue in NW Indiana. Sorry Bernd:( Regards, Steve Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://imca.cc/ --- On Thu, 8/12/10, bernd.pauli at paulinet.de bernd.pauli at paulinet.de wrote: From: bernd.pauli at paulinet.de bernd.pauli at paulinet.de Subject: [meteorite-list] 2010 Perseids To: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 2:52 PM Lots of rainids and cloudids where I live :-( Ugh! Aargh! Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Previous message: [meteorite-list] 2010 Perseids Next message: [meteorite-list] Perseids 2010 Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the Meteorite-list mailing list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 2010 Perseids
8:45 MST time approx. A real beauty east of Prescott AZ traveling north to south along the horizon for at least 2 seconds +. Large flash and a trail. What a beaut. Almost dropped my beer. This was in the city lights from our home on the couch. Wayne __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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