[meteorite-list] Question for European dealers
Hi List, Yesterday at my post office I was told that the parcel weight for the airmail to USA is limited to 453 gram. All heavier parcels can be send only by ground/boat. I was told that this regulation will be at least until Christmas. I'm wondering if this is only in Czech Republic or some other countries have the same regulation? Thanks! Sergey --- Sergey Vasiliev U Dalnice 2684/1 Prague 5, 155 00 Czech Republic --- http://www.sv-meteorites.com http://impactites.net http://systematic-mineralogy.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Question for European dealers
Hi Sergey, I think this applies only to the Czech Republic. From Germany, I can always all sizes of parcels and registered mail send by airmail. Regards Mirko Mirko Graul Meteorite Quittenring.4 16321 Bernau GERMANY Phone: 0049-1724105015 E-Mail: m_gr...@yahoo.de WEB: www.meteorite-mirko.de Member of The Meteoritical Society (International Society for Meteoritics and Planetery Science) IMCA-Member: 2113 (International Meteorite Collectors Association) --- Sergey Vasiliev vs.petrov...@gmail.com schrieb am Di, 16.11.2010: Von: Sergey Vasiliev vs.petrov...@gmail.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] Question for European dealers An: meteorite-l...@meteoritecentral. Com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Datum: Dienstag, 16. November, 2010 11:17 Uhr Hi List, Yesterday at my post office I was told that the parcel weight for the airmail to USA is limited to 453 gram. All heavier parcels can be send only by ground/boat. I was told that this regulation will be at least until Christmas. I'm wondering if this is only in Czech Republic or some other countries have the same regulation? Thanks! Sergey --- Sergey Vasiliev U Dalnice 2684/1 Prague 5, 155 00 Czech Republic --- http://www.sv-meteorites.com http://impactites.net http://systematic-mineralogy.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Delete - looking for planetary collectors
Sorry for disturbing. Have problems to transfer my addressbook from my old mill into my new one. For being sure not losing any of the planetary collectors, but mainly for showing some few last specimens of some running out Martians, in case they still need them please contact me off-list. Thanks! Martin __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Particles brought back by Hayabusa identified as from Itokawa
like LL5--6? http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2010/11/20101116_hayabusa_e.html Katsu OHTSUKA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Canvas de Onis Fall of 1866
Hello list! You are just mispeling! The name is Cangas de Onis. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=Cangas+de+Onissfor=namesants=falls=valids=stype=containslrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Allsrt=namecateg=Allmblist=Allrect=phot=snew=0pnt=Normal%20tablecode=5252 Saludos Sanscelerien On 11/16/2010 07:03 AM, Eric Hutton wrote: Its mentioned in Walter Flight's 'A chapter in the history of meteorites'. (in English) which you can see at http://www.meteoritehistory.info/FLIGHT/VIEWCC/CC147.HTM And also the article it references (In Spanish) at http://www.meteoritehistory.info/SEHNM/SPANISH/VIEWS/V03P069.HTM If anyone would be willing to do a translation for the list that would be great! Its some time since I have mentioned my Meteors and Meterorites historic archive on MeteoriteCentral http://www.meteoritehistory.info Originally published as three CDs and a DVD this website provides over 9,800 pages of information on the subject taken from old journals and books. Each page is presented as a photocopy of the original page. In the few places where the information is maintained more up to date elsewhere there are links, such as the UK and Ireland Meteroite page, and those to W. F. Denning. But essentially you have the content of the CDs, minus the magnify option on each page. If you find this web site useful please consider making a donation for the running costs, thank you. (just $5 or £2.50) pays for a month. Eric Hutton. - Original Message - From: Chris Spratt cspr...@islandnet.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 10:24 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Canvas de Onis Fall of 1866 Does anyone have any more information on this Spanish fall. The Meteorite Catalogue has few details about the fall itself. Thanks, Chris Spratt Victoria, BC (Via my iPhone) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Particles brought back by Hayabusa identified as from Itokawa
On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:43:30 +0900, you wrote: like LL5--6? I was just about to post the same link-- the world's most expensive ordinary chondrite! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - November 16, 2010
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[meteorite-list] METEORA ornaments are on sale now
After much work, some METEORA ornaments are on sale now: http://shop.ebay.it/castore66/m.html Some details can be found here: http://www.meteoriti.info/foto/meteora.htm Greetings from Venice, Italy Maurizio Eltri __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Question for European dealers
Hi Marcin, Yes, it is a new (started on Monday) regulation in Czech post. I even got the DHL newsletter today, said that it will be more security procedures with the parcels to USA because of recent bombs in parcels. DHL not limited the weight, just worried about security. Best regards, Sergey On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Marcin Cimala mar...@meteoryt.net wrote: I think this applies only to the Czech Republic. From Germany, I can always all sizes of parcels and registered mail send by airmail. Regards Mirko I can send registered (air/ground) mail up to 2000grams and not matter if this is for Poland, for EU or international shipment. But try to go to other post office. Sometimes they have crazy ideas on posts. They can tell me that my box is wrong secured by my protective tape or that I write address in not correct place or whatever they can invent on their coffy break. But the best idea will be calling Your post infoline and ask them if this new regulations are official. :) -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM: +48 (793) 567667 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Question for European dealers
I think this applies only to the Czech Republic. From Germany, I can always all sizes of parcels and registered mail send by airmail. Regards Mirko I can send registered (air/ground) mail up to 2000grams and not matter if this is for Poland, for EU or international shipment. But try to go to other post office. Sometimes they have crazy ideas on posts. They can tell me that my box is wrong secured by my protective tape or that I write address in not correct place or whatever they can invent on their coffy break. But the best idea will be calling Your post infoline and ask them if this new regulations are official. :) -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM: +48 (793) 567667 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tonight: All-New Meteorite Men in Chile
Dear Listees: Tonight's Season Two, Episode Three premiere of Meteorite Men may be of particular interest to some of you. Steve and I visit the magnificent 100,000 year-old Monturaqui Crater in Chile's Atacama Desert, as well as the European Southern Observatory at Paranal, and the enigmatic San Juan strewnfield. Monturaqui is truly amazing: one of our planet's best-preserved impact sites and one of the few places in the world where you can pitch a tent and sleep on the floor of an actual crater : ) The show airs at 9 pm Eastern and Pacific on Science Channel and Science Channel HD, with additional show times in most markets, so please check your local cable listings. For our overseas friends, we know that Meteorite Men Season One is currently airing in Canada, England, Ireland, and Singapore on the international Discovery Science networks. Discovery HQ also told me that they expect S1 to begin airing in Germany and several other countries, shortly. We still have no news of a DVD release, but we do hope and expect that such things will happen eventually. Anyone who would like to keep up with the latest news about Meteorite Men is invited to like our Facebook page at: http://www.facebook.com/meteoritemen and/or follow us on Twitter @meteoritemen [ http://twitter.com/meteoritemen ] Steve and I hope you enjoy the show. Respectfully, Geoff N. www.aerolite.org www.meteoritemen.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Identification of Origin of Particles Brought Back by Hayabusa
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2010/11/20101116_hayabusa_e.html Identification of origin of particles brought back by Hayabusa Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) November 16, 2010 The Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) has been engaged in collecting and categorizing particles in the sampler container* that were brought back by the instrumental module of the asteroid exploration spacecraft Hayabusa. Based on the results of the scanning electron microscope (SEM) observations and analyses of samples that were collected with a special spatula from sample catcher compartment A, about 1,500 grains were identified as rocky particles, and most of them were judged to be of extraterrestrial origin, and definitely from Asteroid Itokawa. Their size is mostly less than 10 micrometers, and handling these grains requires very special skills and techniques. JAXA is developing the necessary handling techniques and preparing the associated equipment for the initial (but more detailed) analyses of these ultra-minute particles. * The Hayabusa sampler container consists of 2 compartments that are called Sample Catcher A and B. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Terrestrial Age of Bonita Springs H5
my guess it is fairly recent due to the amount af rainfall+saltwater in the area. i'm sure i would have been gone if it were to have been around 10,000 or so years. --- On Mon, 11/15/10, Kevin Kichinka mars...@gmail.com wrote: From: Kevin Kichinka mars...@gmail.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Terrestrial Age of Bonita Springs H5 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, November 15, 2010, 10:13 PM Maybe among the cognoscenti of this bulletin board someone might know what I can't seem to locate through vigorous research. For a future feature in Meteorite magazine, it would help me to know the approximate terrestrial age of Bonita Springs H5 (Florida). While there is an interesting debate raging (maybe it's not exactly THAT interesting OR raging) about the parent body of H chondrites (see Dave Weir's website for the Reader's Digest version of the arguments) it's the terrestrial age of this specific met that stumps me. How long has Bonita Springs been cooling its chondrules on planet Earth? Kevin Kichinka www.theartofcollectingmeteorites.com www.LaQ-CostaRica.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Nice Material Ending at Auction Today
Dear List Members, Please take a look at 54 auctions I have ending today. There are a lot of great planetary and rare pieces. All were started at just 99 cents with no reserve. Some nice items do not have an opening bid. I am running low on a lot of this material with no way of restocking. Once it is gone, I will not be able to obtain more. Link to all auctions: http://shop.ebay.com/raremeteorites!/m.html Thank you for looking and if you are bidding, good luck. Best Regards, Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection IMCA 2185 Team Lunar Rock __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Happy Birthday Ensisheim
Hello Listers, Ensisheim is 518 years old, thats alot of spankings. http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/E/Ensisheim_meteorite.html Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake
Hi List, Questions... Is it possible, since the Mojave Green is so deadly, to secure some sort of antivenin for use in an emergency while in the field? I've read the antivenin needs to be refrigerated? There are tiny 12v portable fridges you can have with you at camp... So if you're in the field, perhaps you could keep a vial(s) of antivenin (antivenom) in a portable fridge in the vehicle while on expedition in remote areas. (if this is legal of course) This might buy some time for a snakebite victim to get to a hospital. The nearest hospital to areas I hunt in the Mojave Desert is in Barstow, CA... It's a LONG way away, and if you're 1-2 hours down a dirt road in a very remote area of the Mojave desert, according to the rumors of the toxicity of the Mojave Green Rattlesnake venom, you'd be dead before you reach the main road... I searched and couldn't find anything that compares the venom from the Mojave Green to a Cobra, Mamba, or Australian Brown or any other venomous snake. Anyone know a good site which lists all venomous snakes for comparison purposes? Also, I read on the DoD website ...DoD officials said military medics carry antivenin. A soldier, sailor, airman or Marine bitten by a poisonous snake is generally only minutes away from treatment. Antivenin is an equine serum; persons sensitive to vaccines from horses could have an allergic reaction This leads me to believe it's possible to bring antivenin with you into the field. Are there restrictions for civilian use/transport/possession? If restrictions exist, are there exceptions...? Some people can have a severe allergic reaction to the antivenin which could cause the person to go into anaphylactic shock. I know of people who carry an EpiPen for Bee-Sting because they are allergic... http://www.epipen.com/ Can this rare condition be remedied by an EpiPen...? Thoughts, opinions, experiences? Regards, Eric On 11/15/2010 8:34 AM, Adam Hupe wrote: Dear List Members, Just a note to warn meteorite hunters not to be too complacent. The most feared creature here in the Southwest is the Mojave Green Rattlesnake and rightfully so considering its venom is 75 times more deadly than that of a Cobra. You got about 1/2 hour to get anti-venom and if you survive a bite from this fellow, you can count on around a $60,000.00 hospital bill. They come out in the fall and you are most likely to run into one in the morning warming itself in the sun. They hide in and around creosote bushes which are everywhere. I see people listening to I Pods or wearing metal detector headphones while searching for meteorites, oblivious to their surroundings. The only warning we got when we ran into this deadly snake was the shaking of its rattles. I have heard Western Diamondbacks before and their rattle is much louder than the Mojave Green. I had a lot more confidence searching with knee high Kevlar snake boots until we ran into this fellow. The snake we ran into was up in the bush waist high before it dropped to the ground and took up a strike posture. We nicked named this large and fat, 4 foot plus snake Mojave Green Jeans Luckily, I had an image stabilizer on my camera. I may have been shaking more than the snake. The closer I got to it, the quicker the rattle shook. At one point, it sounded like a constant whoosh instead of a rattle. I would back off to about 6 feet away from it and then it would go silent for a while so I don't think they give you much warning. Just two weeks ago, we ran into a snake we were unable to identify which struck out at my brother in laws magnetic cane. It was also hidden in a bush. It wasn't a rattler but had some pretty wild looking checker board pattern. Meet Mojave Green Jeans: http://themeteoritesite.com/AMojaveGreen-a.jpg I Counted 11 Rattles, A Very Mature Snake: http://themeteoritesite.com/AMojaveGreen-b.jpg Side View: http://themeteoritesite.com/AMojaveGreen-c.jpg The Business End - Poised To Strike: http://themeteoritesite.com/AMojaveGreen-d.jpg Be Careful! Happy Hunting, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Happy Birthday Ensisheim
Alan S. wrote: Ensisheim is 518 years old Hello All, --- Thousand four hundred Ninety two, There was heard here a great Noise: Then down before the city, The 7th of the Wintermonth*, A huge stone, on a bright day, Was fallen with a thunderclap, In weight, two hundred and fifty pounds, Of iron color; they brought it in With a stately procession. Very many pieces were struck from it with force. 1492. by J.J. Casimir Karpff, 1795 --- Cheers, Bernd * by the Julian calendar __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake
Hi Eric and Listees, Access Google search for Ten Deadliest Snakes or Most Dangerous Snakes and you will find the Mohave Green listed and its venom compared in lethality to the other vipers. Thats where i gost the quote on comparison to the common Cobra on a volume basis. I am not a physician and any comments I make about snake bites and their treatment are obtained from what I feel are reliable sources, but I caution all readers to speak to their health care provider for verification and advice. CroFab is the usual anti-venom for this family of North American rattlesnake vipers. It is affective against the Mohave's venom although the Mohave can change the mix of components from bite to bite! CroFab is expensive and does not store well. Initial dosage is 4/6 vials. Followed in most cases with 4 more. The protocol for determining and administering the dosage and the amelioration of side effects is complicated and must be done in a hospital setting. Other agents are administered with this anti-venom. You need to be able to place a sodium chloride IV and maintain an airway surgically. Here is the protocol: http://www.hosp.uky.edu/Pharmacy/formulary/criteria/Crotalidae_Polyvalent_Antivenin_Protocol.pdf CroFab is derived from sheep products. No horse serum is used in it's manufacture. It contains a significant amount of assimilated Mercury. People allergic to papaya and pineapple enzymes should not be dosed. A Snake Bite Symptom Scoring System table is used to determine the dosage and maintenance. So, you can forget about treating in the field with an anti-venom unless accompanied by a stocked ambulance and a physician experienced in treating envenomations. The ten point schedule for the remote field treatment of snake bite was taught to me in military survival training and also learned over the years from my fellow desert dwellers here in the Mohave, including several who had survived a bite hours from professional help. Some experts criticize aspects of the protocol (such as the effect of the ammonia and other enzymes in human urine) as of minor efficacy, maybe reducing envenomation by less than 10%. I say that the 10% might just be the borderline between living and dying. Using it can't hurt as long as your not stupid enough to cut the blood flow to a limb, or freeze it. Watch where you put your hands and feet and don't walk close to creosote bushes...day or night. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com Sent: Nov 16, 2010 12:21 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake Hi List, Questions... Is it possible, since the Mojave Green is so deadly, to secure some sort of antivenin for use in an emergency while in the field? I've read the antivenin needs to be refrigerated? There are tiny 12v portable fridges you can have with you at camp... So if you're in the field, perhaps you could keep a vial(s) of antivenin (antivenom) in a portable fridge in the vehicle while on expedition in remote areas. (if this is legal of course) This might buy some time for a snakebite victim to get to a hospital. The nearest hospital to areas I hunt in the Mojave Desert is in Barstow, CA... It's a LONG way away, and if you're 1-2 hours down a dirt road in a very remote area of the Mojave desert, according to the rumors of the toxicity of the Mojave Green Rattlesnake venom, you'd be dead before you reach the main road... I searched and couldn't find anything that compares the venom from the Mojave Green to a Cobra, Mamba, or Australian Brown or any other venomous snake. Anyone know a good site which lists all venomous snakes for comparison purposes? Also, I read on the DoD website ...DoD officials said military medics carry antivenin. A soldier, sailor, airman or Marine bitten by a poisonous snake is generally only minutes away from treatment. Antivenin is an equine serum; persons sensitive to vaccines from horses could have an allergic reaction This leads me to believe it's possible to bring antivenin with you into the field. Are there restrictions for civilian use/transport/possession? If restrictions exist, are there exceptions...? Some people can have a severe allergic reaction to the antivenin which could cause the person to go into anaphylactic shock. I know of people who carry an EpiPen for Bee-Sting because they are allergic... http://www.epipen.com/ Can this rare condition be remedied by an EpiPen...? Thoughts, opinions, experiences? Regards, Eric On 11/15/2010 8:34 AM, Adam Hupe wrote: Dear List Members, Just a note to warn meteorite hunters not to be too complacent. The most feared creature here in the Southwest is the Mojave Green Rattlesnake and rightfully so considering its venom is 75 times more deadly than that of a Cobra. You got about 1/2 hour to get anti-venom and if you survive a bite
[meteorite-list] US shipping restrictions Was-Question for European dealers
List, The Japan post announced that due to recent events the US was now only accepting parcels of UP TO 453grams for airmail. Dirk...Tokyo --- On Wed, 11/17/10, Marcin Cimala mar...@meteoryt.net wrote: From: Marcin Cimala mar...@meteoryt.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question for European dealers To: meteorite-l...@meteoritecentral. Com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Sergey Vasiliev vs.petrov...@gmail.com Date: Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 12:54 AM I think this applies only to the Czech Republic. From Germany, I can always all sizes of parcels and registered mail send by airmail. Regards Mirko I can send registered (air/ground) mail up to 2000grams and not matter if this is for Poland, for EU or international shipment. But try to go to other post office. Sometimes they have crazy ideas on posts. They can tell me that my box is wrong secured by my protective tape or that I write address in not correct place or whatever they can invent on their coffy break. But the best idea will be calling Your post infoline and ask them if this new regulations are official. :) -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM: +48 (793) 567667 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Happy Birthday Ensisheim
Hello All, Forwarding this message from one of our List Giants: Martin Horejsi! Hello Bernd and All, Happy Ensisheim Day! http://www.meteorite-times.com/navigation/accretion-desk/ensisheim-the-king-of-meteorites/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Girls help discover VERY close approaching NEO!
I doubt there is anyone on this list that does not know Lisa Marie Morrison and Leigh Anne DelRay Cromwell. Last night they visited me at the Catalina Sky Survey's 60 telescope on Mt. Lemmon. Lisa Marie is writing an article about CSS for the EZ Guide that gets distributed during the Tucson Gem Mineral Shows each year Leigh Anne joined her as her photographer. I hope you all get a chance to check it out when your where for the shows. While they were here they got to see how we observer and survey for NEOs. I commented that while we can find NEOs at any time of the night, they tend to start showing up after midnight, so I wasn't sure if they'd get to see anything other than Main Belt Asteroids. Within minutes of me saying that a new NEO popped up on the screen. It turns out to be a tiny rock, only about 15 feet in diameter, but it makes a special showing today. Around 3:45 Universal time (or GMT or Zulu time if you like) this Near Earth Asteroid, 2010 WA, will make an extraordinary close approach to the Earth, passing a mere 20,000 miles about the surface. That's closer than Geosynchronous orbiting satellites! Nice catch ladies! -- Richard Kowalski Catalina Sky Survey Lunar and Planetary Laboratory University of Arizona http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/css/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Girls help discover VERY close approaching NEO!
Richard Kowalski wrote: I doubt there is anyone on this list that does not know Lisa Marie Morrison and Leigh Anne DelRay Cromwell . . . Last night they visited me at the Catalina Sky Survey's 60 telescope on Mt. Lemmon. That's why she didn't answer the phone. Nice going ladies! Two of my favorite people. And Richard is pretty cool too : ) Cheers and well done you three! Geoff N. www.aerolite.org www.meteoritemen.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake
I was told by a local nurse that the average cost to treat a Mojave Green snake bite is between $60,000.00 and $70,000.00. I asked why so expensive? She claimed that illegal aliens, working mostly out-of-doors with no insurance are mainly to blame. None have insurance and the anti-venom is difficult to keep on hand. She claimed that many U.S. citizens with insurance have died because they could not get access to it in time, partly because it was used on somebody else without insurance. This in part is why the treatment is so expensive. Only a few are able to afford it. You better make sure your health insurance covers such things. Be Careful and Happy Hunting, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Girls help discover VERY close approaching NEO!
Yes Geoff. There is no time to answer the phone when you are defending the planet! For those unfamiliar with the time I posted, closest approach will be about 10:45pm Eastern Standard Time, or 7:45pm Pacific, tonight. You will need a large telescope to see it visually or one equipped with a CCD camera. However at closest approach it will be traveling more than one degree per minute across the sky so you'll need to be able to find it and then track it. A bit of a daunting problem, but it should be easier to spot right now as it is making its approach. For those with the ability and equipment, use the Minor Planet Ephemeris Generator to get the most up to date positions for your site. http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/~cgi/MPEph2 -- Richard --- On Tue, 11/16/10, Notkin geok...@notkin.net wrote: From: Notkin geok...@notkin.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Girls help discover VERY close approaching NEO! To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, November 16, 2010, 4:17 PM Richard Kowalski wrote: I doubt there is anyone on this list that does not know Lisa Marie Morrison and Leigh Anne DelRay Cromwell . . . Last night they visited me at the Catalina Sky Survey's 60 telescope on Mt. Lemmon. That's why she didn't answer the phone. Nice going ladies! Two of my favorite people. And Richard is pretty cool too : ) Cheers and well done you three! Geoff N. www.aerolite.org www.meteoritemen.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake
Aaaahh, those bloody non-insured illegal people. Always waiting in the desert to get bitten exactly just before insured citizens. Only to cause them troubles. Bah. Holy nurse ... Sorry, best, Matthias - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake I was told by a local nurse that the average cost to treat a Mojave Green snake bite is between $60,000.00 and $70,000.00. I asked why so expensive? She claimed that illegal aliens, working mostly out-of-doors with no insurance are mainly to blame. None have insurance and the anti-venom is difficult to keep on hand. She claimed that many U.S. citizens with insurance have died because they could not get access to it in time, partly because it was used on somebody else without insurance. This in part is why the treatment is so expensive. Only a few are able to afford it. You better make sure your health insurance covers such things. Be Careful and Happy Hunting, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Girls help discover VERY closeapproaching NEO!
Pretty Cool! Congrats to Leigh Anne and Lisa Marie on being part of a new NEO discovery!! I would also like to thank Richard and the CSS team for graciously opening their doors (or roof in this case) and time for everyday folks, a thrill to be a part of! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) gmh...@htn.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Richard Kowalski kowal...@lpl.arizona.edu To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 5:59 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Girls help discover VERY closeapproaching NEO! I doubt there is anyone on this list that does not know Lisa Marie Morrison and Leigh Anne DelRay Cromwell. Last night they visited me at the Catalina Sky Survey's 60 telescope on Mt. Lemmon. Lisa Marie is writing an article about CSS for the EZ Guide that gets distributed during the Tucson Gem Mineral Shows each year Leigh Anne joined her as her photographer. I hope you all get a chance to check it out when your where for the shows. While they were here they got to see how we observer and survey for NEOs. I commented that while we can find NEOs at any time of the night, they tend to start showing up after midnight, so I wasn't sure if they'd get to see anything other than Main Belt Asteroids. Within minutes of me saying that a new NEO popped up on the screen. It turns out to be a tiny rock, only about 15 feet in diameter, but it makes a special showing today. Around 3:45 Universal time (or GMT or Zulu time if you like) this Near Earth Asteroid, 2010 WA, will make an extraordinary close approach to the Earth, passing a mere 20,000 miles about the surface. That's closer than Geosynchronous orbiting satellites! Nice catch ladies! -- Richard Kowalski Catalina Sky Survey Lunar and Planetary Laboratory University of Arizona http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/css/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake
Hi Mathias, I wasn't trying to make any political statement or otherwise. A List member asked if it would be practical to carry anti-venom in the field and my response is that it would be cost prohibitive. This is one of the first questions I asked when I moved out here. I certainly would not want to be in a position to make a choice of who lives or dies based on when/where they received a snakebite. A human being is a human being but the hospitals around here seem more concerned with keeping their doors open than keeping mass amounts of anti-venom on hand. To carry some in the field simply isn't practical. Best Regards, Adam - Original Message From: Matthias Bärmann majbaerm...@web.de To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com; Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, November 16, 2010 3:58:00 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake Aaaahh, those bloody non-insured illegal people. Always waiting in the desert to get bitten exactly just before insured citizens. Only to cause them troubles. Bah. Holy nurse ... Sorry, best, Matthias - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake I was told by a local nurse that the average cost to treat a Mojave Green snake bite is between $60,000.00 and $70,000.00. I asked why so expensive? She claimed that illegal aliens, working mostly out-of-doors with no insurance are mainly to blame. None have insurance and the anti-venom is difficult to keep on hand. She claimed that many U.S. citizens with insurance have died because they could not get access to it in time, partly because it was used on somebody else without insurance. This in part is why the treatment is so expensive. Only a few are able to afford it. You better make sure your health insurance covers such things. Be Careful and Happy Hunting, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Japan Says Hayabusa Brought Back Asteroid Grains
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1011/16hayabusa/ Japan says Hayabusa brought back asteroid grains BY STEPHEN CLARK SPACEFLIGHT NOW November 16, 2010 KODIAK, Alaska -- Japanese scientists have concluded the Hayabusa probe limped back to Earth with the first flakes of an asteroid ever returned to terrestrial labs from deep space. Particles from one of two sample containers inside Hayabusa's return capsule were collected from the surface of Itokawa, the potato-shaped asteroid surveyed by the spacecraft in late 2005. The Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency, or JAXA, publicly released the results Tuesday in a written statement. Analysis with a scanning electron microscope identified about 1,500 grains from one sample catcher as rocky particles, according to the JAXA press release. Most of them were judged to be of extraterrestrial origin and definitely from asteroid Itokawa, the statement said. According to researchers, the composition of Hayabusa's samples was more similar to primitive meteorites than known rocks from Earth. The material matches chemical maps of Itokawa from Hayabusa's remote sensing instruments. JAXA found concentrations of olivine and pyroxene in the Hayabusa samples, the agency press release said. The particles are also different from native soils at the mission's launch base in southern Japan and landing site in Woomera, Australia. After Hayabusa's return to Earth in June, scientists opened up the craft's sample container and discovered rocky grains. But confirmation of the material's origin did not come until this week. Officials retrieved the particles with a special spatula inside a curation facility at Sagamihara, Japan. Further study of the samples will wait until 2011 because officials are still developing special handling procedures to avoid contaminating the particles during the next phase of research. Most of the particles are smaller than 10 micrometers. Scientists have not analyzed samples inside the capsule's other collection chamber, but officials expect it to hold even more material because of its location on the spacecraft. It lies on the side of the spacecraft that touched Itokawa with the most force during its time at the asteroid, possibly gathering more rock grains. Hayabusa was designed to collect several hundred milligrams of material if the sampling procedure went as planned, but the craft's projectile gun did not activate when it approached the asteroid. Scientists expect to learn much about asteroids from even a miniscule sample through powerful tools like scanning electron microscopes. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake
Cost prohibitive to save a life? ;) Hmmm How much cost are we talking? Seems counter intuitive to me Hell, I think most everything should be free, electricity, medical care, etc... Only problem is 99.9% of the people on Earth need money to get by from day to day. That sucks! I've never really understood why medical care isn't free. Let's see, the doctors and hospitals all say, Give me money and I'll save your life, or make you pain free, or cure your disease. Somehow that seems very wrong to me. Eventually I think humans will get past that BS and say Remember when humans used to charge for things like electricity and medical care...? How silly that was... ;) But whatever I get your point Adam, but what's the actual cost for vials of antivenin(venom)? $10k $20k $5k...? It must have been in the thousands for it to be considered cost prohibitive. Is it not practical or is it cost prohibitive or both? And how much are we talking? Eric On 11/16/2010 4:16 PM, Adam Hupe wrote: Hi Mathias, I wasn't trying to make any political statement or otherwise. A List member asked if it would be practical to carry anti-venom in the field and my response is that it would be cost prohibitive. This is one of the first questions I asked when I moved out here. I certainly would not want to be in a position to make a choice of who lives or dies based on when/where they received a snakebite. A human being is a human being but the hospitals around here seem more concerned with keeping their doors open than keeping mass amounts of anti-venom on hand. To carry some in the field simply isn't practical. Best Regards, Adam - Original Message From: Matthias Bärmannmajbaerm...@web.de To: Adam Huperaremeteori...@yahoo.com; Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, November 16, 2010 3:58:00 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake Aaaahh, those bloody non-insured illegal people. Always waiting in the desert to get bitten exactly just before insured citizens. Only to cause them troubles. Bah. Holy nurse ... Sorry, best, Matthias - Original Message - From: Adam Huperaremeteori...@yahoo.com To: Adammeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake I was told by a local nurse that the average cost to treat a Mojave Green snake bite is between $60,000.00 and $70,000.00. I asked why so expensive? She claimed that illegal aliens, working mostly out-of-doors with no insurance are mainly to blame. None have insurance and the anti-venom is difficult to keep on hand. She claimed that many U.S. citizens with insurance have died because they could not get access to it in time, partly because it was used on somebody else without insurance. This in part is why the treatment is so expensive. Only a few are able to afford it. You better make sure your health insurance covers such things. Be Careful and Happy Hunting, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Rover May Have Lost Power for Good
http://cornellsun.com/section/news/content/2010/11/16/mars-rover-may-have-lost-power-good Mars Rover May Have Lost Power for Good The Cornell Daily Sun By Yusnier Sonora Lopez November 16, 2010 Spirit - one of two rovers sent to Mars in Jan. 2004 as part of the Mars Exploration Rover Mission - has failed to relay information to Earth in over eight months, despite hopes from NASA that springtime sunlight on the Red Planet would recharge its batteries. According to reports, this could mean that Spirit has finally lost power, without means of recharging. But Cornell researchers heavily involved with the project remain optimistic. The Spirit hasn't died; we haven't heard from it, but we suspect it is still alive and we are waiting to hear from it, said Prof. Steve Squyres '82, astronomy, lead investigator for the Mars Exploration Rover mission. NASA received the last communication with Spirit March 22, when it was expected the vehicle would spend the Martian winter in hibernation. Along with the rover Opportunity, Spirit has been collecting data since January 2004, far surpassing the initial 90 days that the Spirit was guaranteed to rove. The solar cells in Spirit are stacked in three layers, allowing them to maximize their energy efficiency. This technology has proven to be more effective than that used in the Mars Pathfinder mission of 1996, which lasted three months. In 2007, after dust storms blocked sunlight to the rovers, scientists assumed that the solar cells would not be able to collect enough energy to power Spirit. Once again, the quality of the solar cells surpassed people's expectations, as the rovers survived the dust storms and eventually resumed operations. In May 2009, Spirit was caught in a soft sand pit named Troy, where it has remained since that time. Squyres said that the stationary situation of the Spirit was a good thing because it would allow scientists to study the rotation patterns of Mars through space. Squyres said that they could track [Spirit's] radio signal to determine [Mars'] motion through space. Regardless of the fate of Spirit, NASA has no intention of halting future missions to Mars, according to Squyres. There is another rover that is being launched next year, Squyres said. This will represent a bigger opportunity as a mission, but I will have a much [more] minor role compared to my role in the current MER mission. Generally speaking, the most important thing that we have learned from the rovers is that even though Mars is cold and dry today, in the past it was warmer and wetter, with liquid water on the surface, said Squyres. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Camera on Curiosity's Arm will Magnify Clues in Rocks
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2010-384 Camera on Curiosity's Arm will Magnify Clues in Rocks Jet Propulsion Laboratory November 16, 2010 NASA's next Mars rover, Curiosity, will wield an arm-mounted magnifying camera similar to one on the Mars Rover Opportunity, which promptly demonstrated its importance for reading environmental history from rocks at its landing site in 2004. Within a few weeks after the landing, that camera at the end of Opportunity's arm revealed details of small spheres embedded in the rocks, hollows where crystals had dissolved, and fine layering shaped like smiles. These details all provided information about the site's wet past. The camera installed on the end of Curiosity's arm this month is the Mars Hand Lens Imager, or MAHLI. Its work will include the same type of close-up inspections accomplished by the comparable camera on Opportunity, but MAHLI has significantly greater capabilities: full-color photography, adjustable focus, lights, and even video. Also, it sits on a longer arm, one that can hold MAHLI up higher than the cameras on the rover's mast. MAHLI will use those capabilities as one of 10 science instruments to study the area of Mars where NASA's Mars Science Laboratory mission lands Curiosity in August 2012. The Mars Hand Lens Imager takes its name from the magnifying tool that every field geologist carries. Ken Edgett of Malin Space Science Systems, San Diego, is the principal investigator for the instrument. He said, When youâre out in the field and you want to get a quick idea what minerals are in a rock, you pick up the rock in one hand and hold your hand lens in the other hand. You look through the lens at the colors, the crystals, the cleavage planes: features that help you diagnose what minerals you see. If it's a sedimentary rock, such as the sandstone you see at Arches National Park in Utah, or shale -- which is basically petrified mud -- like in the Painted Desert in Arizona, you use the hand lens not just to see what minerals are in it but also the sizes and shapes of the grains in the rock. You also look at the fine-scale layering in the rock to get an idea of the sequence of events. Sedimentary rocks record past events and environments. While other instruments on Curiosity will provide more information about what minerals are in rocks, the Mars Hand Lens Imager will play an important role in reading the environmental history recorded in sedimentary rocks. The mission's science team will use the instruments to assess whether the selected landing area has had environmental conditions favorable for life and for preserving evidence about whether life existed. The team currently assembling and testing Curiosity and other parts of the Mars Science Laboratory spacecraft at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., is continuing tests of MAHLI this month, now that the camera is mounted beside other tools on the robotic arm. The spacecraft will launch from Florida between Nov. 25 and Dec. 18, 2011. Edgett led the preparation in early 2004 of a proposal to include MAHLI in the Mars Science Laboratory's payload. During those same months, the camera on Opportunity's arm -- that mission's Microscopic Imager -- was demonstrating the potential value of a successor, and generating ideas for improvements. Opportunity's Microscopic Imager has a fixed focus. To get targets in focus, it always needs to be placed the same distance from the target, recording a view of an area 3 centimeters (1.2 inches) across. To view a larger area, the camera takes multiple images, sometimes more than a dozen, each requiring a repositioning of Opportunity's arm. When I was writing the proposal, the Microscopic Imager took about 40 images for a mosaic of one rock, Edgett said. That's where the idea came from to make the focus adjustable. With adjustable focus, the science team has more flexibility for trade-offs among the rover's resources, such as power, time, data storage and data downlink. For example, the camera could take one or two images from farther away to cover a larger area, then go in and sample selected parts in higher resolution from closer up. MAHLI can focus on targets as close as about 21 millimeters (0.8 inch) and as distant as the horizon or farther. JPL's Ashwin Vasavada, deputy project scientist for the Mars Science Laboratory, said, MAHLI is really a fully functional camera that happens to be on the end of the arm. The close-up capability is its specialty, but it will also be able to take images or videos from many viewpoints inaccessible to the cameras on the mast, such as up high, down low, under the rover and on the rover deck. Think of it like a hand-held camera with a macro lens, one that you could use for taking pictures of the Grand Canyon, of yourself, or of a bumblebee on a flower. Edgett is looking forward to what the camera will reveal in rock textures. Just like larger rocks in a river, grains of sand carried in a
Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake
Whoa. Adam, I know you're only relating what you've been informed, but something needs to be said of the nurse's outrageous ignorance. The notion that aliens don't have insurance and U.S. citizens all carry insurance has hardly been the case. A significant fraction of the citizenry of Nevada and Arizona (and not just) have not been carrying health insurance. Moreover, citizens are not dying as a result of aliens using up antivenin stocks. The high cost of antivenin has to do with profit---not aliens. It has been extensively written about that antivenin does not generate sufficient profit for drug companies so the prices get hiked up to the Moon. And then no one buys it to keep on hand so there are shortages. All best / Darryl On Nov 16, 2010, at 6:30 PM, Adam Hupe wrote: I was told by a local nurse that the average cost to treat a Mojave Green snake bite is between $60,000.00 and $70,000.00. I asked why so expensive? She claimed that illegal aliens, working mostly out-of-doors with no insurance are mainly to blame. None have insurance and the anti-venom is difficult to keep on hand. She claimed that many U.S. citizens with insurance have died because they could not get access to it in time, partly because it was used on somebody else without insurance. This in part is why the treatment is so expensive. Only a few are able to afford it. You better make sure your health insurance covers such things. Be Careful and Happy Hunting, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Straying a bit OT: snake fixation
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Girls help discover VERY closeapproaching NEO!
Awesome, congratulations!! Maybe we will get a new meteorite! -Original Message- From: Richard Kowalski Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 5:59 PM To: Meteorite List Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Girls help discover VERY closeapproaching NEO! I doubt there is anyone on this list that does not know Lisa Marie Morrison and Leigh Anne DelRay Cromwell. Last night they visited me at the Catalina Sky Survey's 60 telescope on Mt. Lemmon. Lisa Marie is writing an article about CSS for the EZ Guide that gets distributed during the Tucson Gem Mineral Shows each year Leigh Anne joined her as her photographer. I hope you all get a chance to check it out when your where for the shows. While they were here they got to see how we observer and survey for NEOs. I commented that while we can find NEOs at any time of the night, they tend to start showing up after midnight, so I wasn't sure if they'd get to see anything other than Main Belt Asteroids. Within minutes of me saying that a new NEO popped up on the screen. It turns out to be a tiny rock, only about 15 feet in diameter, but it makes a special showing today. Around 3:45 Universal time (or GMT or Zulu time if you like) this Near Earth Asteroid, 2010 WA, will make an extraordinary close approach to the Earth, passing a mere 20,000 miles about the surface. That's closer than Geosynchronous orbiting satellites! Nice catch ladies! -- Richard Kowalski Catalina Sky Survey Lunar and Planetary Laboratory University of Arizona http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/css/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] SPIRIT: R.I.P.
http://xkcd.com/695/ -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Ron Baalke Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 5:08 PM To: Meteorite Mailing List Subject: [meteorite-list] Mars Rover May Have Lost Power for Good http://cornellsun.com/section/news/content/2010/11/16/mars-rover-may-hav e-lost-power-good Mars Rover May Have Lost Power for Good The Cornell Daily Sun By Yusnier Sonora Lopez November 16, 2010 Spirit - one of two rovers sent to Mars in Jan. 2004 as part of the Mars Exploration Rover Mission - has failed to relay information to Earth in over eight months, despite hopes from NASA that springtime sunlight on the Red Planet would recharge its batteries. According to reports, this could mean that Spirit has finally lost power, without means of recharging. But Cornell researchers heavily involved with the project remain optimistic. The Spirit hasn't died; we haven't heard from it, but we suspect it is still alive and we are waiting to hear from it, said Prof. Steve Squyres '82, astronomy, lead investigator for the Mars Exploration Rover mission. NASA received the last communication with Spirit March 22, when it was expected the vehicle would spend the Martian winter in hibernation. Along with the rover Opportunity, Spirit has been collecting data since January 2004, far surpassing the initial 90 days that the Spirit was guaranteed to rove. The solar cells in Spirit are stacked in three layers, allowing them to maximize their energy efficiency. This technology has proven to be more effective than that used in the Mars Pathfinder mission of 1996, which lasted three months. In 2007, after dust storms blocked sunlight to the rovers, scientists assumed that the solar cells would not be able to collect enough energy to power Spirit. Once again, the quality of the solar cells surpassed people's expectations, as the rovers survived the dust storms and eventually resumed operations. In May 2009, Spirit was caught in a soft sand pit named Troy, where it has remained since that time. Squyres said that the stationary situation of the Spirit was a good thing because it would allow scientists to study the rotation patterns of Mars through space. Squyres said that they could track [Spirit's] radio signal to determine [Mars'] motion through space. Regardless of the fate of Spirit, NASA has no intention of halting future missions to Mars, according to Squyres. There is another rover that is being launched next year, Squyres said. This will represent a bigger opportunity as a mission, but I will have a much [more] minor role compared to my role in the current MER mission. Generally speaking, the most important thing that we have learned from the rovers is that even though Mars is cold and dry today, in the past it was warmer and wetter, with liquid water on the surface, said Squyres. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Happy Birthday Ensisheim
Hi there, I guess that's the most comprehensive monograph about Ensisheim, By Ursula Marvin: http://kuerzer.de/Marvinens I think it was her, who ascribed that unsigned drawing by Albrecht Duerer, to be an observation of the fireball of the Ensisheim meteorite (which is told to be since so): http://kuerzer.de/Duererens Here btw a portrait of Sebastian Brant, the author of the famous broadsheet about the fall, also a drawing by Duerer: http://kuerzer.de/Duererbrant Salute to the oldest European fall - Elbogen. eeek.. Martin, on the run -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von bernd.pa...@paulinet.de Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. November 2010 21:31 An: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] Happy Birthday Ensisheim Alan S. wrote: Ensisheim is 518 years old __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake
Hi Eric and List, The cost for rattlesnake anti-venom seems to be around $3,500.00 for a small vial. I imagine that a Mojave Green's venom which is double-acting would require special treatment. I am certainly not an expert on such things. Perhaps a zoo keeper that handles snakes can answer these questions since they keep anti-venom on hand. The local hospitals here no longer carry scorpion anti-venom and tell you to tuff it out for 22 days if you are stung by a nasty one. I was told it is no longer available at any costs. When I moved, my health insurance was no good here in Nevada. It took me over a year to find new insurance that would cover me nationally, not just in a single state. I went for over a year without insurance and was worried that if something happening in field, I would not be able to afford it. I had no idea this was an issue until I visited a doctor for an emergency and found my insurance was no good here. After being stung twice by scorpions and hearing of the mighty Mojave Green snake, I felt it necessary to inquire about such things. I repeated what was told. The people here in the Southwest have strong opinions about certain things so I take a lot of it with a grain of salt and yes, sometimes the comments come from ignorance. The main point is to do everything possible to avoid getting bitten or stung by some poisonous creature because treatment may not be readily available. Best Regards, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Girls help discover VERY closeapproaching NEO!
List, I must say, it was TOTALLY AMAZING to be there last night and to see that! It was like our little baby, the three of us! hee hee Richard was so awesome and you are right Greg, we felt so privileged to just be a part of something like that, just being the 'regular old folk' that we are! I mean it was just the coolest to be the first people to see something like that! I didn't think that I would have been so jazzed, but by the night's end I was pretty rowdy and loud. It was really addictive too, so I can see why you came back a few times Greg! Anyway, Thank you Richard for such a great time, and if anyone gets images of our baby, I would love to see them. WOOO HOOO! Leigh Anne DelRay-Crowell Co-Discoverer of Near Earth Asteroid 2010 WA IMCA #7446 www.CallistoImages.com On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Stuart McDaniel actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com wrote: Awesome, congratulations!! Maybe we will get a new meteorite! -Original Message- From: Richard Kowalski Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 5:59 PM To: Meteorite List Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Girls help discover VERY closeapproaching NEO! I doubt there is anyone on this list that does not know Lisa Marie Morrison and Leigh Anne DelRay Cromwell. Last night they visited me at the Catalina Sky Survey's 60 telescope on Mt. Lemmon. Lisa Marie is writing an article about CSS for the EZ Guide that gets distributed during the Tucson Gem Mineral Shows each year Leigh Anne joined her as her photographer. I hope you all get a chance to check it out when your where for the shows. While they were here they got to see how we observer and survey for NEOs. I commented that while we can find NEOs at any time of the night, they tend to start showing up after midnight, so I wasn't sure if they'd get to see anything other than Main Belt Asteroids. Within minutes of me saying that a new NEO popped up on the screen. It turns out to be a tiny rock, only about 15 feet in diameter, but it makes a special showing today. Around 3:45 Universal time (or GMT or Zulu time if you like) this Near Earth Asteroid, 2010 WA, will make an extraordinary close approach to the Earth, passing a mere 20,000 miles about the surface. That's closer than Geosynchronous orbiting satellites! Nice catch ladies! -- Richard Kowalski Catalina Sky Survey Lunar and Planetary Laboratory University of Arizona http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/css/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake
I would have to believe that the quoted cost is not for the antivenin treatment alone. The victim of such a snake bite would probably need to be admitted to an Intensive Care Unit with significant hemodynamic and possible respiratory support, not a cheap proposition. David -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Pitt Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 7:49 PM To: Adam Hupe Cc: Adam Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake Whoa. Adam, I know you're only relating what you've been informed, but something needs to be said of the nurse's outrageous ignorance. The notion that aliens don't have insurance and U.S. citizens all carry insurance has hardly been the case. A significant fraction of the citizenry of Nevada and Arizona (and not just) have not been carrying health insurance. Moreover, citizens are not dying as a result of aliens using up antivenin stocks. The high cost of antivenin has to do with profit---not aliens. It has been extensively written about that antivenin does not generate sufficient profit for drug companies so the prices get hiked up to the Moon. And then no one buys it to keep on hand so there are shortages. All best / Darryl On Nov 16, 2010, at 6:30 PM, Adam Hupe wrote: I was told by a local nurse that the average cost to treat a Mojave Green snake bite is between $60,000.00 and $70,000.00. I asked why so expensive? She claimed that illegal aliens, working mostly out-of-doors with no insurance are mainly to blame. None have insurance and the anti-venom is difficult to keep on hand. She claimed that many U.S. citizens with insurance have died because they could not get access to it in time, partly because it was used on somebody else without insurance. This in part is why the treatment is so expensive. Only a few are able to afford it. You better make sure your health insurance covers such things. Be Careful and Happy Hunting, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list P Please consider the impact to the environment before printing this email. P Please consider the impact to the environment before printing this email. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake
Hello, A friend who was bitten 2 years ago by a Green stated that his medical cost from beginning to end was $64,000.00. This was in Tucson Arizona at the University Hospital. Best Wishes Michael Cottingham From: dr...@emersonhosp.org To: dar...@dof3.com; raremeteori...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 01:24:55 + CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake I would have to believe that the quoted cost is not for the antivenin treatment alone. The victim of such a snake bite would probably need to be admitted to an Intensive Care Unit with significant hemodynamic and possible respiratory support, not a cheap proposition. David -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Pitt Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 7:49 PM To: Adam Hupe Cc: Adam Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mojave Green Jeans - Images of a Killer Snake Whoa. Adam, I know you're only relating what you've been informed, but something needs to be said of the nurse's outrageous ignorance. The notion that aliens don't have insurance and U.S. citizens all carry insurance has hardly been the case. A significant fraction of the citizenry of Nevada and Arizona (and not just) have not been carrying health insurance. Moreover, citizens are not dying as a result of aliens using up antivenin stocks. The high cost of antivenin has to do with profit---not aliens. It has been extensively written about that antivenin does not generate sufficient profit for drug companies so the prices get hiked up to the Moon. And then no one buys it to keep on hand so there are shortages. All best / Darryl On Nov 16, 2010, at 6:30 PM, Adam Hupe wrote: I was told by a local nurse that the average cost to treat a Mojave Green snake bite is between $60,000.00 and $70,000.00. I asked why so expensive? She claimed that illegal aliens, working mostly out-of-doors with no insurance are mainly to blame. None have insurance and the anti-venom is difficult to keep on hand. She claimed that many U.S. citizens with insurance have died because they could not get access to it in time, partly because it was used on somebody else without insurance. This in part is why the treatment is so expensive. Only a few are able to afford it. You better make sure your health insurance covers such things. Be Careful and Happy Hunting, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list P Please consider the impact to the environment before printing this email. P Please consider the impact to the environment before printing this email. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] {MPML} 2010 WA to come closer than GEO belt
On 11/16/2010 2:35 PM, Matson, Robert D. wrote: Hi All, Newly discovered 2010 WA will come within 33,000 km of the earth's surface in about 6 hours. Close approach is at around 45 degrees north latitude, so it will not come particularly close to any geosynchronous satellites. --Rob Thanks Rob. I just nabbed it a short time ago as it races down towards the northeast horizon here at G96 and is now past my northern limit. It appears to be a little fast compared to the MPC's ephemeris, so anyone trying for it look for it ahead of the predicted location. -- Richard Kowalski Catalina Sky Survey Lunar and Planetary Laboratory University of Arizona http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/css/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] US shipping restrictions Was-Question for Europeandealers
Actually the 1 pound limit was imposed by Japan Post; Japan Post will not accept packages larger than 1 pound bound for the US. As far as the USPS there are no other countries imposing a similar ban on Airmail. Though security will be tighter than it was before the fan mail from Yemen arrived. (All ground and sea based shipments are unaffected.) ALSO if you are a registered Japanese commercial business making shipments to the US (on the international safe shippers list) this ban will not impact your shipments to the US. http://www.majiroxnews.com/2010/11/13/japan-post-to-stop-parcels-to-us/ http://www.post.japanpost.jp/whats_new/2010/1112_02_c01.pdf Rob Holcomb Meteorite storage and preservation http://www.rholcomb.com -- From: drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 1:47 PM To: Marcin Cimala mar...@meteoryt.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] US shipping restrictions Was-Question for Europeandealers List, The Japan post announced that due to recent events the US was now only accepting parcels of UP TO 453grams for airmail. Dirk...Tokyo --- On Wed, 11/17/10, Marcin Cimala mar...@meteoryt.net wrote: From: Marcin Cimala mar...@meteoryt.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question for European dealers To: meteorite-l...@meteoritecentral. Com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Sergey Vasiliev vs.petrov...@gmail.com Date: Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 12:54 AM I think this applies only to the Czech Republic. From Germany, I can always all sizes of parcels and registered mail send by airmail. Regards Mirko I can send registered (air/ground) mail up to 2000grams and not matter if this is for Poland, for EU or international shipment. But try to go to other post office. Sometimes they have crazy ideas on posts. They can tell me that my box is wrong secured by my protective tape or that I write address in not correct place or whatever they can invent on their coffy break. But the best idea will be calling Your post infoline and ask them if this new regulations are official. :) -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM: +48 (793) 567667 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Girls help discover VERY closeapproaching NEO!
You are right, I got hitched. It is Crowell. Not Cromwell like Richard had written, but oh well... Just details Thanks for the congratulations. It was a phenomenal wedding and an even more phenomenal guy! -L.A. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 16, 2010, at 7:42 PM, cdtuc...@cox.net wrote: Leigh Anne, Your name seems longer than it used to be? I assume Congrats are in order? Congrats on the NEO find also. . Carl -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax Leigh Anne DelRay leighannedel...@gmail.com wrote: List, I must say, it was TOTALLY AMAZING to be there last night and to see that! It was like our little baby, the three of us! hee hee Richard was so awesome and you are right Greg, we felt so privileged to just be a part of something like that, just being the 'regular old folk' that we are! I mean it was just the coolest to be the first people to see something like that! I didn't think that I would have been so jazzed, but by the night's end I was pretty rowdy and loud. It was really addictive too, so I can see why you came back a few times Greg! Anyway, Thank you Richard for such a great time, and if anyone gets images of our baby, I would love to see them. WOOO HOOO! Leigh Anne DelRay-Crowell Co-Discoverer of Near Earth Asteroid 2010 WA IMCA #7446 www.CallistoImages.com On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Stuart McDaniel actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com wrote: Awesome, congratulations!! Maybe we will get a new meteorite! -Original Message- From: Richard Kowalski Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 5:59 PM To: Meteorite List Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Girls help discover VERY closeapproaching NEO! I doubt there is anyone on this list that does not know Lisa Marie Morrison and Leigh Anne DelRay Cromwell. Last night they visited me at the Catalina Sky Survey's 60 telescope on Mt. Lemmon. Lisa Marie is writing an article about CSS for the EZ Guide that gets distributed during the Tucson Gem Mineral Shows each year Leigh Anne joined her as her photographer. I hope you all get a chance to check it out when your where for the shows. While they were here they got to see how we observer and survey for NEOs. I commented that while we can find NEOs at any time of the night, they tend to start showing up after midnight, so I wasn't sure if they'd get to see anything other than Main Belt Asteroids. Within minutes of me saying that a new NEO popped up on the screen. It turns out to be a tiny rock, only about 15 feet in diameter, but it makes a special showing today. Around 3:45 Universal time (or GMT or Zulu time if you like) this Near Earth Asteroid, 2010 WA, will make an extraordinary close approach to the Earth, passing a mere 20,000 miles about the surface. That's closer than Geosynchronous orbiting satellites! Nice catch ladies! -- Richard Kowalski Catalina Sky Survey Lunar and Planetary Laboratory University of Arizona http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/css/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD-NWA 6390 L3, Henburys, Breja, ebay auctions
Aloha, * NWA 6390 L3 (W2) - a new unequilibrated chondrite with a stunning visual treat of a matrix is now available on ebay. Here are some pictures of the specimen: Endcut: http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/Images/NWA6390.jpg Thin section: http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/Images/NWA6390TS.jpg * Henbury - I have a new supply of some of the best Henbury meteorites on the market in a very long time. Most are highly regmaglypted with a desert varnish patina, and I like to think of them as affordable elegance in 20-99g portions. These are all there are in this size range, so get them now or forget about it. ;^) http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/henbury.html * Breja - Nice specimens from the May 1, 2010 fall over Morocco, with fresh velvety crust over a pale matrix studded with copious amounts of FeNi and FeS inclusions and veins. Individuals from 147 to 366g. Full and part slices, and thin sections to be offered soon. http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/Taouz.html * Ebay auctions - Big Kahuna has his regular weekly auctions on ebay ending Saturday, November 20, starting at 8:00am Pacific / 11:00am Eastern / 4:00pm London / 6:00pm Helsinki / 11:00pm Singapore. Featured items include: Breja fall, 170g individual with 95% fusion crust: http://tinyurl.com/38384hz NWA 6386 dio, 3.07g full slice only $47 in case: http://tinyurl.com/36jzmoy NWA 6393 how, 6.05g crusted slice start @ $75: http://tinyurl.com/34wdqkr NWA x OC, 160g cherry flight marked stone: http://tinyurl.com/382sraf Chergach H5, 47.21g Perfect, fresh chondrite: http://tinyurl.com/2um8zxd Juancheng H5, 9.51g fresh crusted stone: http://tinyurl.com/2e4j3lu Fukang Pal, 1.51g polished part slice: http://tinyurl.com/32m7k6y Sikhote Alin IIAB, 18.34g fantastically figured: http://tinyurl.com/33aqgv4 K/T Boundary material, 22.90g from Agost, Spain: http://tinyurl.com/2utdwns Steinheim Shattercone, 151.89g stunning: http://tinyurl.com/34yuwz5 ... plus the freshest Allende slices and individuals, NWA 2086, Murchison, Mt Egerton, Camel Donga, Admire, Vaca Muerta, Toufassour, Henbury, Taza, Canyon Diablo, Mendota, Micro Membranebox bundles and much, much more. http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: AUCTIONS TODAY (Wed17th) 20% to 50% Off * Over $50, 000 worth of NEW ITEMS!
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[meteorite-list] Impact melt formation by low-altitude airburst processes, evidence from small terrestrial craters and numerical modeling, H E Newsom MBE Boslough 2008 Mar 2p abstract: Rich Murray 2
Impact melt formation by low-altitude airburst processes, evidence from small terrestrial craters and numerical modeling, H E Newsom MBE Boslough 2008 Mar 2p abstract: Rich Murray 2010.11.17 http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2010_11_01_archive.htm Wednesday, November 17, 2010 [ at end of each long page, click on Older Posts ] http://groups.yahoo.com/group/astrodeep/message/73 [you may have to Copy and Paste URLs into your browser] ___ http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2268163/IMPACT%20MELT%20FORMATION%20BY%20LOW-ALTITUDE%20AIRBURST%20PROCESSES,.pdf http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2008/pdf/1460.pdf free full-text Title: Impact Melt Formation by Low-Altitude Airburst Processes, Evidence from Small Terrestrial Craters and Numerical Modeling Authors: Newsom, H. E.; Boslough, M. B. E. Publication: 39th Lunar and Planetary Science Conference, (Lunar and Planetary Science XXXIX), held March 10-14, 2008 in League City, Texas. LPI Contribution No. 1391., p.1460 Publication Date: 03/2008 Origin: LPI Bibliographic Code: 2008LPI39.1460N http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2008LPI39.1460N find similar articles in database [ Measuring the images shows that at 10 seconds, the ground width of the burst is 13.4 km, with round area 140 km**2, while the central cone of ground excavation is deeper than 1/3 km. ] Lunar and Planetary Science XXXIX (2008) 1460.pdf Impact melt formation by low-altitude airburst processes, evidence from small terrestrial craters and numerical modeling. H. E. Newsom 1, and M. B. E. Boslough 2, 1 Univ. of New Mexico, Institute of Meteoritics, MSC03-2050, Albuquerque, NM 87131, USA new...@unm.edu , 2 Sandia National Laboratories, PO Box 5800, Albuquerque, NM 87185 Introduction Airbursts in the lower atmosphere from hypervelocity impacts have been called upon to explain the nature of the Tunguska event and the existence of unusual impact-related silicate melts such as the Muong-Nong tektites and Libyan Desert Glass of western Egypt [1]. Impact melts associated with impact craters, however, have been traditionally attributed to shock melting of the target material that experiences strong shock compression and heating. The characteristics of impact melts from small terrestrial craters ( 4 km diameter) leads to the possibility that the airburst phenomena may have been responsible for these melts. This conclusion is supported by numerical modeling of the airburst phenomena using super computer class facilities at Sandia National Laboratories [1]. Numerical modeling results Recent models of the airburst phenomena have revealed several important insights into the coupling of the airburst with the surface and the possible nature of the resulting silicate melts. The center of mass of an exploding projectile is transported downward in the form of a high-temperature jet of expanding gas (Fig. 1). The jet descends by a significant fraction of the burst altitude before its velocity becomes subsonic. The time scale of this descent is similar to the time scale of the explosion itself, so the jet simultaneously couples its kinetic energy and its internal energy to the atmosphere. Because of this downward flow, larger blast waves and stronger thermal radiation pulses are felt at the surface than would be predicted by a point source explosion at the height where the burst was initiated. For impacts with a kinetic energy above some threshold, the hot jet of vaporized projectile (the descending fireball) makes contact with the Earth's surface, where it expands radially. During the time of radial expansion, the fireball can maintain temperatures well above the melting temperature of silicate minerals, and its radial velocity can exceed the sound speed in air. Boslough and Crawford [1] suggest that the surface materials can ablate by radiative/convective melting under these conditions, and then quench rapidly to form glass after the fireball cools and recedes. For crater-forming impact events, the atmosphere also plays an important, if not dominant role. The iron projectile that formed Meteor Crater (Arizona) deposited more than 2.5 times as much energy directly into the atmosphere than it carried to the surface [2]. Small crater-forming impacts should therefore exhibit phenomena similar to those associated with airbursts. Impact melts from small terrestrial craters Small craters with impact melt fragments include; Wabar, Aouelloul, Henbury, and Lonar. The striking characteristics of the impact melt fragments from these craters is the presence of thin layers of melt. These layers are sometimes isolated fragments (e.g. Aouelloul), sometimes stacked into layered accumulations (Lonar), and sometimes form coatings around unmelted material or layered melt bodies (Lonar). The layered accumulations have much in common with the Muong-Nong type silicate melt materials. Fig. 1, Airburst for which the fireball descends to the surface
Re: [meteorite-list] CanGas de Onís Fall of 1866
(Forgot to use plain text) Here it is the translation (hope it's clear, my english is as rusty as some of my meteorites +_+). Sounds quite naive to me. Description and analysis of the aeroliths that fell in the district of Cangas de Onís (Asturias) on December 6, 1806, by Mr. José Ramón de Luanco. (Session of March 4, 1874) Would be half past ten in the morning, more or less, of December 6, 1866, when the inhabitants of the town of Cangas de Onís, in Asturias, and the surrounding villages within a radius of 2-4 km, heard a strange noise like a locomotive, which, filling ones with surprise and others with horror, everybodies eyes moved towards the sky, where the noise came. The atmosphere was clear and serene, the sun shone in all its brilliance, and only from the northern part it could see the rapidly moving ahead with a whitish cloud, which soon faded throwing sparks, which fell on the ground as aeroliths. The time at which the phenomenon appeared, the unanimous declaration of the many eye-witnesses, whose veracity is beyond question, and the immediate finding of meteoric stones, some still warm, are irrefutable evidence that save other testimony, however, it will find them the one who want it in the proof, due to well-known people, which are added at the end of this report. Also newspapers from Oviedo and Madrid, and then no one doubted its accuracy. After the news of what had happened, Mr. D. Leon Salmen, rector of the University of Oviedo, wrote to his friends, Mr. Antonio Cortes, Mr. José, and Mr. Manuel González Rugín, pharmacist the last one, neighbors all of them of Cangas de Onís, and these men answered the questions addressed to them in terms that express the letters included in the appendix, while they sent the remarkable fragments of the aerolith, preserved today in the Cabinet of Natural History at the University, reproduced in Plate IX drawn by Mr. Romea, professor at the School of Fine Arts in Oviedo. Helpful here would be to record meteorological data in the region covered by the bolide, which to everyone seemed very large, to the point of suspecting to some that could reached the adjoining province of Santander, but since it is not possible, we'll supply this need by making following comments made that day in Oviedo by Professor of Physics, Mr. José Ceruelo. Clear skies, Leo From: book...@rmplc.co.uk To: cspr...@islandnet.com Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 07:03:45 + CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Canvas de Onis Fall of 1866 And also the article it references (In Spanish) at http://www.meteoritehistory.info/SEHNM/SPANISH/VIEWS/V03P069.HTM If anyone would be willing to do a translation for the list that would be great! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
