Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite search in the Saquia al Hamra
Thanks to all who have replied on and off list for your encouragement and most kind words. The pleasure was on my side. An excellent 2011 to everybody. Svend Larry Atkins thetop...@aol.com hat am 1. Januar 2011 um 21:58 geschrieben: Svend, List, That was beautifully written and most entertaining. I feel very fortunate to be privy to such amazing adventures like this and others that are put up here on the list. This story is a great example of what meteorite hunting is all about for me personally. Camaraderie, adventure, discovery, documentation and science all mixed with just a hint of danger! Thanks for the great story! Sincerely, Larry Atkins IMCA # 1941 Ebay username alienrockfarm -Original Message- From: tracy latimer daist...@hotmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sat, Jan 1, 2011 12:17 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite search in the Saquia al Hamra Agreed. Your command and skill with the English language beats many native speakers! A most excellent account, and the photos are top notch.Best!Tracy Latimer From: carloselgua...@hotmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 12:12:14 -0800 Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite search in the Saquia al Hamra Hello Svend and All, Most interesting account! Thank you. As the Count subtly hints, I would not correct anything. For those who haven't read this yet, Svend's account is first class. Carl2 ...With a German-Russian-Swiss team we undertook a small field trip into the Saquia al Hamra region in the Morrocan governed Western Sahara... http://www.meteorite-recon.com/en/Meteorites_Western_Sahara_1.htm __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.htmlMeteorite-list mailing listmeteorite-l...@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/li stinfo/meteorite-list Sincerely, Larry Atkins IMCA # 1941 Ebay username alienrockfarm www.poisonivycontrolofmichigan.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Frederick, Maryland Fireball
This was reported to the AMS regarding the 12/28/2010 MD/PA fireball. Sonic effects Concurrent SoundYes Delayed Sound Yes Remarks before i saw the ball streak there was bright flashes similiar to lightning that lasted 5-10 seconds before the steak, then heard an explosion in the distance 2 mintutes after the ball streaked across the sky, similiar to a Class B mortar just 1 boom Of the 144 reports this is the only one reporting a boom. several others reported swooshing sounds. No sonic reports to the AMS regarding the 12/29/2010 MD/PA fireball. The 12/28/2010 MD/PA fireball was the 2nd most ams reported fireball event of 2010. WI was the 1st. The 12/29/2010 MD/PA fireball was the 6th most reported. Witnesses / event ID. 324 / 194 - WI 144 / 929 - 12/28/2010 MD/PA 66 / 330 59 / 705 35 / 247 28 / 934 - 12/29/2010 MD/PA On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 10:21 AM, geo...@aol.com wrote: Any reported sonic booms? The reports I'm reading seems to lack this little tidbit of important news for meteorite hunters. geozay __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay
http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsitem=170585023324 current bid is at $180 for a 2.3g complete oriented Bassikounou H5 chondrite granted Geoff's offering is a pristine example of flight orientation of an OC, but would anybody in their right mind bid $79/g? FWIW, this 'new' guy has 0 feedback. Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay
And he just got outbid by a bidder with 93 feedbacks! I never complain about situations like this. Bidding wars bring in badly needed income during the Great Recession when you're lucky to sell anything at any price. Phil Whitmer --- http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsitem=170585023324 current bid is at $180 for a 2.3g complete oriented Bassikounou H5 chondrite granted Geoff's offering is a pristine example of flight orientation of an OC, but would anybody in their right mind bid $79/g? FWIW, this 'new' guy has 0 feedback. Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay
Looks like the bidder w/93 is on auto-bid. His max bid is probably higher still. I must say, that's a lovely looking specimen Geoff's offering. Beautiful rollover lip. I'm afraid I won't be able to join in on the bidding though. ;^) Linton - Original Message - From: JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 10:51 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay And he just got outbid by a bidder with 93 feedbacks! I never complain about situations like this. Bidding wars bring in badly needed income during the Great Recession when you're lucky to sell anything at any price. Phil Whitmer --- http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsitem=170585023324 current bid is at $180 for a 2.3g complete oriented Bassikounou H5 chondrite granted Geoff's offering is a pristine example of flight orientation of an OC, but would anybody in their right mind bid $79/g? FWIW, this 'new' guy has 0 feedback. Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay
The fact that one individual bidder has 0 feedback and that many bids on one item in that span of time, leads me to feel that maybe a form of bid rigging is taken place. At least that's what would catch my eye and put my guard up. Now that the price is where the seller wants it, it would not surprise me that Mr. 0 feedback will not bid again. If I was the high bidder I would retract my bid this way Mr. 0 would be high bidder! I could be wrong on all this but I have seen this game before on several occasions. Here is a link to a news source in which an eBay bidder was arrested and charged with bidding on his own auctions because he said they were lower then expected...he even admits creating another account with name to do this bidding rigging! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1267410/Ebay-seller-faces-fine-bidding-items-raise-prices.html Sincerely Don Merchant IMCA #0960 Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders http://www.ctreasurescwonders.com/index.html - Original Message - From: Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com To: MeteorList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 12:46 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsitem=170585023324 current bid is at $180 for a 2.3g complete oriented Bassikounou H5 chondrite granted Geoff's offering is a pristine example of flight orientation of an OC, but would anybody in their right mind bid $79/g? FWIW, this 'new' guy has 0 feedback. Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay
An Ebayer bidding on his own stuff. Wow, there's a shocker. Greg L. From: dmerc...@rochester.rr.com To: fuj...@mac.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 17:44:32 -0500 CC: dmerc...@rochester.rr.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay The fact that one individual bidder has 0 feedback and that many bids on one item in that span of time, leads me to feel that maybe a form of bid rigging is taken place. At least that's what would catch my eye and put my guard up. Now that the price is where the seller wants it, it would not surprise me that Mr. 0 feedback will not bid again. If I was the high bidder I would retract my bid this way Mr. 0 would be high bidder! I could be wrong on all this but I have seen this game before on several occasions. Here is a link to a news source in which an eBay bidder was arrested and charged with bidding on his own auctions because he said they were lower then expected...he even admits creating another account with name to do this bidding rigging! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1267410/Ebay-seller-faces-fine-bidding-items-raise-prices.html Sincerely Don Merchant IMCA #0960 Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders http://www.ctreasurescwonders.com/index.html - Original Message - From: Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com To: MeteorList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 12:46 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsitem=170585023324 current bid is at $180 for a 2.3g complete oriented Bassikounou H5 chondrite granted Geoff's offering is a pristine example of flight orientation of an OC, but would anybody in their right mind bid $79/g? FWIW, this 'new' guy has 0 feedback. Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: December 27-31, 2010
MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES December 27-31, 2010 o Daedalia Planum (27 December 2010) http://themis.asu.edu/node/5539 o Kasei Valles (28 December 2010) http://themis.asu.edu/node/5540 o Channel (29 December 2010) http://themis.asu.edu/node/5541 o Aram Chaos (30 December 2010) http://themis.asu.edu/node/5542 o Ascraeus Mons (31 December 2010) http://themis.asu.edu/node/5543 All of the THEMIS images are archived here: http://themis.asu.edu/latest.html NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University, Tempe, in co.oration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] SOHO Spots 2000th Comet
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/soho/comet-2000.html SOHO Spots 2000th Comet Karen C. Fox NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center December 28, 2010 As people on Earth celebrate the holidays and prepare to ring in the New Year, an ESA/NASA spacecraft has quietly reached its own milestone: on December 26, the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) discovered its 2000th comet. Drawing on help from citizen scientists around the world, SOHO has become the single greatest comet finder of all time. This is all the more impressive since SOHO was not specifically designed to find comets, but to monitor the sun. Since it launched on December 2, 1995 to observe the sun, SOHO has more than doubled the number of comets for which orbits have been determined over the last three hundred years, says Joe Gurman, the U.S. project scientist for SOHO at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md. Of course, it is not SOHO itself that discovers the comets -- that is the province of the dozens of amateur astronomer volunteers who daily pore over the fuzzy lights dancing across the pictures produced by SOHO's LASCO (or Large Angle and Spectrometric Coronagraph) cameras. Over 70 people representing 18 different countries have helped spot comets over the last 15 years by searching through the publicly available SOHO images online. The 1999th and 2000th comet were both discovered on December 26 by Michal Kusiak, an astronomy student at Jagiellonian University in Krakow, Poland. Kusiak found his first SOHO comet in November 2007 and has since found more than 100. There are a lot of people who do it, says Karl Battams who has been in charge of running the SOHO comet-sighting website since 2003 for the Naval Research Lab in Washington, where he also does computer processing for LASCO. They do it for free, they're extremely thorough, and if it wasn't for these people, most of this stuff would never see the light of day. Battams receives reports from people who think that one of the spots in SOHO's LASCO images looks to be the correct size and brightness and headed for the sun - characteristics typical of the comets SOHO finds. He confirms the finding, gives each comet an unofficial number, and then sends the information off to the Minor Planet Center in Cambridge, Mass, which categorizes small astronomical bodies and their orbits. It took SOHO ten years to spot its first thousand comets, but only five more to find the next thousand. That's due partly to increased participation from comet hunters and work done to optimize the images for comet-sighting, but also due to an unexplained systematic increase in the number of comets around the sun. Indeed, December alone has seen an unprecedented 37 new comets spotted so far, a number high enough to qualify as a comet storm. LASCO was not designed primarily to spot comets. The LASCO camera blocks out the brightest part of the sun in order to better watch emissions in the sun's much fainter outer atmosphere, or corona. LASCO's comet finding skills are a natural side effect -- with the sun blocked, it's also much easier to see dimmer objects such as comets. But there is definitely a lot of science that comes with these comets, says Battams. First, now we know there are far more comets in the inner solar system than we were previously aware of, and that can tell us a lot about where such things come from and how they're formed originally and break up. We can tell that a lot of these comets all have a common origin. Indeed, says Battams, a full 85% of the comets discovered with LASCO are thought to come from a single group known as the Kreutz family, believed to be the remnants of a single large comet that broke up several hundred years ago. The Kreutz family comets are sungrazers - bodies whose orbits approach so near the Sun that most are vaporized within hours of discovery - but many of the other LASCO comets boomerang around the sun and return periodically. One frequent visitor is comet 96P Machholz. Orbiting the sun approximately every six years, this comet has now been seen by SOHO three times. SOHO is a cooperative project between the European Space Agency (ESA) and NASA. The spacecraft was built in Europe for ESA and equipped with instruments by teams of scientists in Europe and the USA. For more information about the SOHO mission, visit: http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/ Follow SOHO's comet findings more closely at: http://sungrazer.nrl.navy.mil/ or via Twitter at: http://twitter.com/SungrazerComets __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay
Don, Greg, OMG I can't believe what I am reading here. We are talking about Geoff Notkin. I am sorry but, I have to speak up here. Geoff is NOT shilling here. He would simply never be a part of anything like that. The reason it looks like the *0* feedback bidder bid so many times is because the bidder with 93 feedbacks bid around 15 times until he was high bidder. This has nothing to do with any shill or conspiracy. It is simply how eBay works. Again ,I say for the record. Geoff is way to cool to be involved in ANY thing illegal. Carl -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax GREG LINDH gee...@msn.com wrote: An Ebayer bidding on his own stuff. Wow, there's a shocker. Greg L. From: dmerc...@rochester.rr.com To: fuj...@mac.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 17:44:32 -0500 CC: dmerc...@rochester.rr.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay The fact that one individual bidder has 0 feedback and that many bids on one item in that span of time, leads me to feel that maybe a form of bid rigging is taken place. At least that's what would catch my eye and put my guard up. Now that the price is where the seller wants it, it would not surprise me that Mr. 0 feedback will not bid again. If I was the high bidder I would retract my bid this way Mr. 0 would be high bidder! I could be wrong on all this but I have seen this game before on several occasions. Here is a link to a news source in which an eBay bidder was arrested and charged with bidding on his own auctions because he said they were lower then expected...he even admits creating another account with name to do this bidding rigging! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1267410/Ebay-seller-faces-fine-bidding-items-raise-prices.html Sincerely Don Merchant IMCA #0960 Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders http://www.ctreasurescwonders.com/index.html - Original Message - From: Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com To: MeteorList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 12:46 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsitem=170585023324 current bid is at $180 for a 2.3g complete oriented Bassikounou H5 chondrite granted Geoff's offering is a pristine example of flight orientation of an OC, but would anybody in their right mind bid $79/g? FWIW, this 'new' guy has 0 feedback. Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay
Carl, All, For those who apparently don't know how to read the bidding statistics on a given page, the important thing to look at is the time at which a bid was placed -- not the order in which it appears on the list. The current top bid, held by 3***g( 93), was placed on December 31st, at ~10:30am PST. a***a( 419) tried to outbid 3***g( 93) twice the next day (Jan. 1), placing bids of $50 and $60. At this point, s***t( 0 ) placed no fewer than 14 bids, the last of which was for $180. This drove the price to $182.50, which...makes sense, since the bid increment up to $250 is $2.50. This looks like a typical example of someone bidding an item up. But since we all know Geoff and he does have good standing, it would be strange to accuse him of anything without evidence of some sort. It's probably just someone who doesn't understand how best to use ebay. Or it could even be a recurrence of our non-paying fellow from a week or so ago... Regards, Jason On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 3:35 PM, cdtuc...@cox.net wrote: Don, Greg, OMG I can't believe what I am reading here. We are talking about Geoff Notkin. I am sorry but, I have to speak up here. Geoff is NOT shilling here. He would simply never be a part of anything like that. The reason it looks like the *0* feedback bidder bid so many times is because the bidder with 93 feedbacks bid around 15 times until he was high bidder. This has nothing to do with any shill or conspiracy. It is simply how eBay works. Again ,I say for the record. Geoff is way to cool to be involved in ANY thing illegal. Carl -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax GREG LINDH gee...@msn.com wrote: An Ebayer bidding on his own stuff. Wow, there's a shocker. Greg L. From: dmerc...@rochester.rr.com To: fuj...@mac.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 17:44:32 -0500 CC: dmerc...@rochester.rr.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay The fact that one individual bidder has 0 feedback and that many bids on one item in that span of time, leads me to feel that maybe a form of bid rigging is taken place. At least that's what would catch my eye and put my guard up. Now that the price is where the seller wants it, it would not surprise me that Mr. 0 feedback will not bid again. If I was the high bidder I would retract my bid this way Mr. 0 would be high bidder! I could be wrong on all this but I have seen this game before on several occasions. Here is a link to a news source in which an eBay bidder was arrested and charged with bidding on his own auctions because he said they were lower then expected...he even admits creating another account with name to do this bidding rigging! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1267410/Ebay-seller-faces-fine-bidding-items-raise-prices.html Sincerely Don Merchant IMCA #0960 Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders http://www.ctreasurescwonders.com/index.html - Original Message - From: Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com To: MeteorList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 12:46 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsitem=170585023324 current bid is at $180 for a 2.3g complete oriented Bassikounou H5 chondrite granted Geoff's offering is a pristine example of flight orientation of an OC, but would anybody in their right mind bid $79/g? FWIW, this 'new' guy has 0 feedback. Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Re: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay
Or it could be just a fan of the show. Todd On Jan 2, 2011, at 5:48 PM, Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com wrote: Carl, All, For those who apparently don't know how to read the bidding statistics on a given page, the important thing to look at is the time at which a bid was placed -- not the order in which it appears on the list. The current top bid, held by 3***g( 93), was placed on December 31st, at ~10:30am PST. a***a( 419) tried to outbid 3***g( 93) twice the next day (Jan. 1), placing bids of $50 and $60. At this point, s***t( 0 ) placed no fewer than 14 bids, the last of which was for $180. This drove the price to $182.50, which...makes sense, since the bid increment up to $250 is $2.50. This looks like a typical example of someone bidding an item up. But since we all know Geoff and he does have good standing, it would be strange to accuse him of anything without evidence of some sort. It's probably just someone who doesn't understand how best to use ebay. Or it could even be a recurrence of our non-paying fellow from a week or so ago... Regards, Jason On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 3:35 PM, cdtuc...@cox.net wrote: Don, Greg, OMG I can't believe what I am reading here. We are talking about Geoff Notkin. I am sorry but, I have to speak up here. Geoff is NOT shilling here. He would simply never be a part of anything like that. The reason it looks like the *0* feedback bidder bid so many times is because the bidder with 93 feedbacks bid around 15 times until he was high bidder. This has nothing to do with any shill or conspiracy. It is simply how eBay works. Again ,I say for the record. Geoff is way to cool to be involved in ANY thing illegal. Carl -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax GREG LINDH gee...@msn.com wrote: An Ebayer bidding on his own stuff. Wow, there's a shocker. Greg L. From: dmerc...@rochester.rr.com To: fuj...@mac.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 17:44:32 -0500 CC: dmerc...@rochester.rr.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay The fact that one individual bidder has 0 feedback and that many bids on one item in that span of time, leads me to feel that maybe a form of bid rigging is taken place. At least that's what would catch my eye and put my guard up. Now that the price is where the seller wants it, it would not surprise me that Mr. 0 feedback will not bid again. If I was the high bidder I would retract my bid this way Mr. 0 would be high bidder! I could be wrong on all this but I have seen this game before on several occasions. Here is a link to a news source in which an eBay bidder was arrested and charged with bidding on his own auctions because he said they were lower then expected...he even admits creating another account with name to do this bidding rigging! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1267410/Ebay-seller-faces-fine-bidding-items-raise-prices.html Sincerely Don Merchant IMCA #0960 Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders http://www.ctreasurescwonders.com/index.html - Original Message - From: Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com To: MeteorList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 12:46 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsitem=170585023324 current bid is at $180 for a 2.3g complete oriented Bassikounou H5 chondrite granted Geoff's offering is a pristine example of flight orientation of an OC, but would anybody in their right mind bid $79/g? FWIW, this 'new' guy has 0 feedback. Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at
Re: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay
Hey Don, Greg, Did you even bother looking at who's auction this is? Do you realize that the Met-List is a PUBLIC forum? Not just in your email box... Maybe you don't mean to associate a reputable member of this communbity with the practices you mention, but your statements can be seriously misinterpreted by others. Perhaps showing some thoughtful intelligent restraint is a good thing here instead of being overly suspicious by pointing out probably completely unrelated circumstances which could cause an automatic and mistaken association with one of our communities most reputable dealers. It's probably just and overly zealous and extremely excited inexperienced bidder. Don't forget, this auction is for an extremely exquisite, flight oriented, rollover lipped, beautifully fusion crusted meteorite, being offered by none of than the world famous Geoff Notkin of the Meteorite Men. Naaa... That couldn't possibly be the reason it's got such high bids. Regards, Eric On 1/2/2011 2:50 PM, GREG LINDH wrote: An Ebayer bidding on his own stuff. Wow, there's a shocker. Greg L. From: dmerc...@rochester.rr.com To: fuj...@mac.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 17:44:32 -0500 CC: dmerc...@rochester.rr.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay The fact that one individual bidder has 0 feedback and that many bids on one item in that span of time, leads me to feel that maybe a form of bid rigging is taken place. At least that's what would catch my eye and put my guard up. Now that the price is where the seller wants it, it would not surprise me that Mr. 0 feedback will not bid again. If I was the high bidder I would retract my bid this way Mr. 0 would be high bidder! I could be wrong on all this but I have seen this game before on several occasions. Here is a link to a news source in which an eBay bidder was arrested and charged with bidding on his own auctions because he said they were lower then expected...he even admits creating another account with name to do this bidding rigging! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1267410/Ebay-seller-faces-fine-bidding-items-raise-prices.html Sincerely Don Merchant IMCA #0960 Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders http://www.ctreasurescwonders.com/index.html - Original Message - From: Gary Fujiharafuj...@mac.com To: MeteorListmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 12:46 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsitem=170585023324 current bid is at $180 for a 2.3g complete oriented Bassikounou H5 chondrite granted Geoff's offering is a pristine example of flight orientation of an OC, but would anybody in their right mind bid $79/g? FWIW, this 'new' guy has 0 feedback. Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Meteorites for sale
From the Stephan collection: Yilmia 1.4 g. EL6 DAG 647 74. mg. AEUC NWA 001 1.4 g. L6 NWA 25.2 g. HOW NWA 4495 20.2 g. DIO Winona 3.9 g. WIN NWA (Martian) 1.3 g. Basaltic Shergottite NWA 2999 2.3 g. ANG Itqiy 4.1 g. EH7 Davy (a) 36.7 g. L4 (Nininger) Lemmon 43.4 g. H5 (TCU Monnig) Ozona 24.3 g. L6 (J.M. Dupont/from Nininger) NWA 1914 53.6 g. HOW Haxtun 31.1 g. H/L4 Wichita Co. Texas 278.0 g. found 1836 I|ABM NWA 2932 49.4 g. MES NWA 1955 11.3 g. H/L3-4 Abee 236.0 g. EH4 D'Orbigny 63.7 g. ANG Glorieta Mountain 1065.1 g. PAL Gold Basin 125.2 g. L4 Isna 26.0 g. CO3.8 Dhofar 125 125.5 g. ACAP. Stannern 7.0 g. EUC Mundrabilla 95.1 g. IAB All of these pieces are from well known dealers and collectors. Possible discount on inquiry. Please contact Twink Monrad larrytwinkmon...@comcast.net __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay
Seems odd that somehow Geoff got mixed up in this discussion. I see this as nothing more that tv-show groupees seeing a value (perhaps rightly so if they had discovered the B-meteorites, but even still because of the celeb status)...for anyone unaware of current $-trends for any Bassikounou, and never looking into real-collection offering pricings, I can actually see this happening. (Even Sikhote Alin ~30-40 gram rusty-oily shrapnels were going for 1$+/gram today, go figure.) When I originally read the first two posts, Geoff never came to mind, still doesn't. Certainly shill-bidding didn't. Let's watch the newbees instead. Richard Montgomery - Original Message - From: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com To: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay Carl, All, For those who apparently don't know how to read the bidding statistics on a given page, the important thing to look at is the time at which a bid was placed -- not the order in which it appears on the list. The current top bid, held by 3***g( 93), was placed on December 31st, at ~10:30am PST. a***a( 419) tried to outbid 3***g( 93) twice the next day (Jan. 1), placing bids of $50 and $60. At this point, s***t( 0 ) placed no fewer than 14 bids, the last of which was for $180. This drove the price to $182.50, which...makes sense, since the bid increment up to $250 is $2.50. This looks like a typical example of someone bidding an item up. But since we all know Geoff and he does have good standing, it would be strange to accuse him of anything without evidence of some sort. It's probably just someone who doesn't understand how best to use ebay. Or it could even be a recurrence of our non-paying fellow from a week or so ago... Regards, Jason On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 3:35 PM, cdtuc...@cox.net wrote: Don, Greg, OMG I can't believe what I am reading here. We are talking about Geoff Notkin. I am sorry but, I have to speak up here. Geoff is NOT shilling here. He would simply never be a part of anything like that. The reason it looks like the *0* feedback bidder bid so many times is because the bidder with 93 feedbacks bid around 15 times until he was high bidder. This has nothing to do with any shill or conspiracy. It is simply how eBay works. Again ,I say for the record. Geoff is way to cool to be involved in ANY thing illegal. Carl -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax GREG LINDH gee...@msn.com wrote: An Ebayer bidding on his own stuff. Wow, there's a shocker. Greg L. From: dmerc...@rochester.rr.com To: fuj...@mac.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 17:44:32 -0500 CC: dmerc...@rochester.rr.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay The fact that one individual bidder has 0 feedback and that many bids on one item in that span of time, leads me to feel that maybe a form of bid rigging is taken place. At least that's what would catch my eye and put my guard up. Now that the price is where the seller wants it, it would not surprise me that Mr. 0 feedback will not bid again. If I was the high bidder I would retract my bid this way Mr. 0 would be high bidder! I could be wrong on all this but I have seen this game before on several occasions. Here is a link to a news source in which an eBay bidder was arrested and charged with bidding on his own auctions because he said they were lower then expected...he even admits creating another account with name to do this bidding rigging! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1267410/Ebay-seller-faces-fine-bidding-items-raise-prices.html Sincerely Don Merchant IMCA #0960 Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders http://www.ctreasurescwonders.com/index.html - Original Message - From: Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com To: MeteorList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 12:46 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsitem=170585023324 current bid is at $180 for a 2.3g complete oriented Bassikounou H5 chondrite granted Geoff's offering is a pristine example of flight orientation of an OC, but would anybody in their right mind bid $79/g? FWIW, this 'new' guy has 0 feedback. Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html
Re: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay
Eric, My mistake. I didn't notice that it was Geoff. Had I noticed, I would not have even posted. Greg L. Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 16:00:25 -0800 From: e...@meteoritesusa.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay Hey Don, Greg, Did you even bother looking at who's auction this is? Do you realize that the Met-List is a PUBLIC forum? Not just in your email box... Maybe you don't mean to associate a reputable member of this communbity with the practices you mention, but your statements can be seriously misinterpreted by others. Perhaps showing some thoughtful intelligent restraint is a good thing here instead of being overly suspicious by pointing out probably completely unrelated circumstances which could cause an automatic and mistaken association with one of our communities most reputable dealers. It's probably just and overly zealous and extremely excited inexperienced bidder. Don't forget, this auction is for an extremely exquisite, flight oriented, rollover lipped, beautifully fusion crusted meteorite, being offered by none of than the world famous Geoff Notkin of the Meteorite Men. Naaa... That couldn't possibly be the reason it's got such high bids. Regards, Eric On 1/2/2011 2:50 PM, GREG LINDH wrote: An Ebayer bidding on his own stuff. Wow, there's a shocker. Greg L. From: dmerc...@rochester.rr.com To: fuj...@mac.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 17:44:32 -0500 CC: dmerc...@rochester.rr.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay The fact that one individual bidder has 0 feedback and that many bids on one item in that span of time, leads me to feel that maybe a form of bid rigging is taken place. At least that's what would catch my eye and put my guard up. Now that the price is where the seller wants it, it would not surprise me that Mr. 0 feedback will not bid again. If I was the high bidder I would retract my bid this way Mr. 0 would be high bidder! I could be wrong on all this but I have seen this game before on several occasions. Here is a link to a news source in which an eBay bidder was arrested and charged with bidding on his own auctions because he said they were lower then expected...he even admits creating another account with name to do this bidding rigging! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1267410/Ebay-seller-faces-fine-bidding-items-raise-prices.html Sincerely Don Merchant IMCA #0960 Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders http://www.ctreasurescwonders.com/index.html - Original Message - From: Gary Fujihara To: MeteorList Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 12:46 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsitem=170585023324 current bid is at $180 for a 2.3g complete oriented Bassikounou H5 chondrite granted Geoff's offering is a pristine example of flight orientation of an OC, but would anybody in their right mind bid $79/g? FWIW, this 'new' guy has 0 feedback. Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re-2: Another crazy bidder on ebay
Hello Jason, Hello List, Here's my assumption: I don't have to reiterate that this oriented piece is a beauty in its own right! Geoff, as some of you may know, is the administrator of CSR (Club Space Rock). You'll find a lot of enthusiastic, fervent, new collectors there who would gladly give almost anything just to call such an exquisite piece their own. Geoff informed his forum members that this spectacular, flight-oriented piece was on EBay without reserve. I personally think that someone who is new to collecting has eyes only (only in the positive connotation of the word) for the exotic beauty and rarity of this flight-oriented specimen with its frothy, fresh fusion crust and distinct roll-over lipping ... ... and: No, it's not me! Cheers, Bernd To: meteorite...@gmail.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: meteorite...@gmail.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re-2: Another crazy bidder on ebay
Hello Jason, Hello List, Here's my assumption: I don't have to reiterate that this oriented piece is a beauty in its own right! Geoff, as some of you may know, is the administrator of CSR (Club Space Rock). You'll find a lot of enthusiastic, fervent, new collectors there who would gladly give almost anything just to call such an exquisite piece their own. Geoff informed his forum members that this spectacular, flight-oriented piece was on EBay without reserve. I personally think that someone who is new to collecting has eyes only (only in the positive connotation of the word) for the exotic beauty and rarity of this flight-oriented specimen with its frothy, fresh fusion crust and distinct roll-over lipping ... ... and: No, it's not me! Cheers, Bernd To: meteorite...@gmail.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorites USA Yearly Redesign
Hello everyone, Hope all are having a great new years day, and I wish everyone a HAPPY NEW YEAR! MeteoritesUSA.com has a new look. The site has been redesigned for 2011 with you in mind. It's got an easy to navigate menu, and there's lots of new features that allow you to browse through the hundreds of articles, photos, and links related to meteorites, meteorite hunting, collecting and science. Check it out: www.meteoritesusa.com I've also redesigned two of my other meteorite sites: www.MHCMagazine.com www.Meteorite-Hunting.com Enjoy... Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA Meteorite Hunting Collecting Magazine Meteorite Hunting Association __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] MHC Magazine
As promised... Update on the status of Meteorite Hunting Collecting Magazine. We go to print this week! No need to worry, everyone will receive their magazines this month shipped direct from our printer. This delay has been caused simply by the overwhelming success and growth of the magazine. I'll admit I was slightly unprepared for such a massively positive response and extremely fast growth, we've been working very hard to get back on schedule. It's been hugely popular throughout the meteorite community. Aside from the slow schedule of course, there's been nothing but praise for the quality of the publication and the fabulous meteorite content. I have all of you, my supporters, and contributors to thank for that. Without you guys this magazine would not be possible. Thank you all for your patience and support. Happy New Year! Regards, Eric __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay
Hi List. I apologize as Greg did that I too did not realize it was Geoff's auction...My deepest and sincere apologies to Geoff and List as I assumed it was a listing by someone else. Shame on me for not reading past my nose! Sincerely Don Merchant IMCA #0960 Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders http://www.ctreasurescwonders.com/index.html - Original Message - From: GREG LINDH gee...@msn.com To: e...@meteoritesusa.com Cc: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay Eric, My mistake. I didn't notice that it was Geoff. Had I noticed, I would not have even posted. Greg L. Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 16:00:25 -0800 From: e...@meteoritesusa.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay Hey Don, Greg, Did you even bother looking at who's auction this is? Do you realize that the Met-List is a PUBLIC forum? Not just in your email box... Maybe you don't mean to associate a reputable member of this communbity with the practices you mention, but your statements can be seriously misinterpreted by others. Perhaps showing some thoughtful intelligent restraint is a good thing here instead of being overly suspicious by pointing out probably completely unrelated circumstances which could cause an automatic and mistaken association with one of our communities most reputable dealers. It's probably just and overly zealous and extremely excited inexperienced bidder. Don't forget, this auction is for an extremely exquisite, flight oriented, rollover lipped, beautifully fusion crusted meteorite, being offered by none of than the world famous Geoff Notkin of the Meteorite Men. Naaa... That couldn't possibly be the reason it's got such high bids. Regards, Eric On 1/2/2011 2:50 PM, GREG LINDH wrote: An Ebayer bidding on his own stuff. Wow, there's a shocker. Greg L. From: dmerc...@rochester.rr.com To: fuj...@mac.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 17:44:32 -0500 CC: dmerc...@rochester.rr.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay The fact that one individual bidder has 0 feedback and that many bids on one item in that span of time, leads me to feel that maybe a form of bid rigging is taken place. At least that's what would catch my eye and put my guard up. Now that the price is where the seller wants it, it would not surprise me that Mr. 0 feedback will not bid again. If I was the high bidder I would retract my bid this way Mr. 0 would be high bidder! I could be wrong on all this but I have seen this game before on several occasions. Here is a link to a news source in which an eBay bidder was arrested and charged with bidding on his own auctions because he said they were lower then expected...he even admits creating another account with name to do this bidding rigging! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1267410/Ebay-seller-faces-fine-bidding-items-raise-prices.html Sincerely Don Merchant IMCA #0960 Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders http://www.ctreasurescwonders.com/index.html - Original Message - From: Gary Fujihara To: MeteorList Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 12:46 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsitem=170585023324 current bid is at $180 for a 2.3g complete oriented Bassikounou H5 chondrite granted Geoff's offering is a pristine example of flight orientation of an OC, but would anybody in their right mind bid $79/g? FWIW, this 'new' guy has 0 feedback. Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Re: [meteorite-list] RSVP re Another crazy bidder on ebay
Don and Greg, You DO know the seller is Geoff Notkin, don't you? I can Only assume you do NOT know it is Geoff. Such speculation is ludicrous in this case. And very careless of You. Comments that would sullying someone's reputation are nothing to take lightly! Shame on you both for such comments Either you made these comments out of negligence in failing to note Who the seller is or FAR WORSE, you would dare to make such Remarks regarding Geoff. Please let us know if it is mere carelessness or actually an accusation regarding Geoff. Please, Speak out on this list - both of you - and not in a private post. Your comments were public and your response should be public. Sincerely, Michael Blood On 1/2/11 2:50 PM, GREG LINDH gee...@msn.com wrote: An Ebayer bidding on his own stuff. Wow, there's a shocker. Greg L. From: dmerc...@rochester.rr.com To: fuj...@mac.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 17:44:32 -0500 CC: dmerc...@rochester.rr.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay The fact that one individual bidder has 0 feedback and that many bids on one item in that span of time, leads me to feel that maybe a form of bid rigging is taken place. At least that's what would catch my eye and put my guard up. Now that the price is where the seller wants it, it would not surprise me that Mr. 0 feedback will not bid again. If I was the high bidder I would retract my bid this way Mr. 0 would be high bidder! I could be wrong on all this but I have seen this game before on several occasions. Here is a link to a news source in which an eBay bidder was arrested and charged with bidding on his own auctions because he said they were lower then expected...he even admits creating another account with name to do this bidding rigging! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1267410/Ebay-seller-faces-fine-biddin g-items-raise-prices.html Sincerely Don Merchant IMCA #0960 Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders http://www.ctreasurescwonders.com/index.html - Original Message - From: Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com To: MeteorList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 12:46 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsitem=170585023324 current bid is at $180 for a 2.3g complete oriented Bassikounou H5 chondrite granted Geoff's offering is a pristine example of flight orientation of an OC, but would anybody in their right mind bid $79/g? FWIW, this 'new' guy has 0 feedback. Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] RSVP re Another crazy bidder on ebay
Michael, they did apologize already. They did not realize it was Geoff. Regards, Eric On 1/2/2011 7:38 PM, Michael Blood wrote: Don and Greg, You DO know the seller is Geoff Notkin, don't you? I can Only assume you do NOT know it is Geoff. Such speculation is ludicrous in this case. And very careless of You. Comments that would sullying someone's reputation are nothing to take lightly! Shame on you both for such comments Either you made these comments out of negligence in failing to note Who the seller is or FAR WORSE, you would dare to make such Remarks regarding Geoff. Please let us know if it is mere carelessness or actually an accusation regarding Geoff. Please, Speak out on this list - both of you - and not in a private post. Your comments were public and your response should be public. Sincerely, Michael Blood On 1/2/11 2:50 PM, GREG LINDHgee...@msn.com wrote: An Ebayer bidding on his own stuff. Wow, there's a shocker. Greg L. From: dmerc...@rochester.rr.com To: fuj...@mac.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 17:44:32 -0500 CC: dmerc...@rochester.rr.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay The fact that one individual bidder has 0 feedback and that many bids on one item in that span of time, leads me to feel that maybe a form of bid rigging is taken place. At least that's what would catch my eye and put my guard up. Now that the price is where the seller wants it, it would not surprise me that Mr. 0 feedback will not bid again. If I was the high bidder I would retract my bid this way Mr. 0 would be high bidder! I could be wrong on all this but I have seen this game before on several occasions. Here is a link to a news source in which an eBay bidder was arrested and charged with bidding on his own auctions because he said they were lower then expected...he even admits creating another account with name to do this bidding rigging! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1267410/Ebay-seller-faces-fine-biddin g-items-raise-prices.html Sincerely Don Merchant IMCA #0960 Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders http://www.ctreasurescwonders.com/index.html - Original Message - From: Gary Fujiharafuj...@mac.com To: MeteorListmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 12:46 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsitem=170585023324 current bid is at $180 for a 2.3g complete oriented Bassikounou H5 chondrite granted Geoff's offering is a pristine example of flight orientation of an OC, but would anybody in their right mind bid $79/g? FWIW, this 'new' guy has 0 feedback. Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Geoff
Hi Don and Greg, Sorry, my email got back to me at the same time your posts Got through re you not realizing it was Geoff - even though our Emails entailed more than 2 hrs difference in the times they were sent... All is groovie - I get a bit hairy if I feel a personal friend Is treated poorly. Thanks, Michael On 1/2/11 7:38 PM, Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net wrote: Don and Greg, You DO know the seller is Geoff Notkin, don't you? I can Only assume you do NOT know it is Geoff. Such speculation is ludicrous in this case. And very careless of You. Comments that would sullying someone's reputation are nothing to take lightly! Shame on you both for such comments Either you made these comments out of negligence in failing to note Who the seller is or FAR WORSE, you would dare to make such Remarks regarding Geoff. Please let us know if it is mere carelessness or actually an accusation regarding Geoff. Please, Speak out on this list - both of you - and not in a private post. Your comments were public and your response should be public. Sincerely, Michael Blood On 1/2/11 2:50 PM, GREG LINDH gee...@msn.com wrote: An Ebayer bidding on his own stuff. Wow, there's a shocker. Greg L. From: dmerc...@rochester.rr.com To: fuj...@mac.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 17:44:32 -0500 CC: dmerc...@rochester.rr.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay The fact that one individual bidder has 0 feedback and that many bids on one item in that span of time, leads me to feel that maybe a form of bid rigging is taken place. At least that's what would catch my eye and put my guard up. Now that the price is where the seller wants it, it would not surprise me that Mr. 0 feedback will not bid again. If I was the high bidder I would retract my bid this way Mr. 0 would be high bidder! I could be wrong on all this but I have seen this game before on several occasions. Here is a link to a news source in which an eBay bidder was arrested and charged with bidding on his own auctions because he said they were lower then expected...he even admits creating another account with name to do this bidding rigging! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1267410/Ebay-seller-faces-fine-biddi n g-items-raise-prices.html Sincerely Don Merchant IMCA #0960 Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders http://www.ctreasurescwonders.com/index.html - Original Message - From: Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com To: MeteorList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 12:46 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsitem=170585023324 current bid is at $180 for a 2.3g complete oriented Bassikounou H5 chondrite granted Geoff's offering is a pristine example of flight orientation of an OC, but would anybody in their right mind bid $79/g? FWIW, this 'new' guy has 0 feedback. Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay
Hello List and Associates, Some of us who sell and buy at auction have just fought off an expensive attack by an unscrupulous pseudo-bidder. It's unnerving to realize someone is out there in cyberspace intent on, at the least, harming us financially. Worse, he has succeeded, knowingly or not, in promoting cyancisim amongst us.. Like lions in a cage that have been prodded with a stick, we whirl and snarl and bite at every threat real, or imagined. I'm sure gentleman Geoff understands what's going on and forgives the overspray. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: Don Merchant dmerc...@rochester.rr.com Sent: Jan 2, 2011 5:42 PM To: GREG LINDH gee...@msn.com, e...@meteoritesusa.com Cc: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay Hi List. I apologize as Greg did that I too did not realize it was Geoff's auction...My deepest and sincere apologies to Geoff and List as I assumed it was a listing by someone else. Shame on me for not reading past my nose! Sincerely Don Merchant IMCA #0960 Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders http://www.ctreasurescwonders.com/index.html - Original Message - From: GREG LINDH gee...@msn.com To: e...@meteoritesusa.com Cc: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay Eric, My mistake. I didn't notice that it was Geoff. Had I noticed, I would not have even posted. Greg L. Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 16:00:25 -0800 From: e...@meteoritesusa.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay Hey Don, Greg, Did you even bother looking at who's auction this is? Do you realize that the Met-List is a PUBLIC forum? Not just in your email box... Maybe you don't mean to associate a reputable member of this communbity with the practices you mention, but your statements can be seriously misinterpreted by others. Perhaps showing some thoughtful intelligent restraint is a good thing here instead of being overly suspicious by pointing out probably completely unrelated circumstances which could cause an automatic and mistaken association with one of our communities most reputable dealers. It's probably just and overly zealous and extremely excited inexperienced bidder. Don't forget, this auction is for an extremely exquisite, flight oriented, rollover lipped, beautifully fusion crusted meteorite, being offered by none of than the world famous Geoff Notkin of the Meteorite Men. Naaa... That couldn't possibly be the reason it's got such high bids. Regards, Eric On 1/2/2011 2:50 PM, GREG LINDH wrote: An Ebayer bidding on his own stuff. Wow, there's a shocker. Greg L. From: dmerc...@rochester.rr.com To: fuj...@mac.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 17:44:32 -0500 CC: dmerc...@rochester.rr.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay The fact that one individual bidder has 0 feedback and that many bids on one item in that span of time, leads me to feel that maybe a form of bid rigging is taken place. At least that's what would catch my eye and put my guard up. Now that the price is where the seller wants it, it would not surprise me that Mr. 0 feedback will not bid again. If I was the high bidder I would retract my bid this way Mr. 0 would be high bidder! I could be wrong on all this but I have seen this game before on several occasions. Here is a link to a news source in which an eBay bidder was arrested and charged with bidding on his own auctions because he said they were lower then expected...he even admits creating another account with name to do this bidding rigging! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1267410/Ebay-seller-faces-fine-bidding-items-raise-prices.html Sincerely Don Merchant IMCA #0960 Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders http://www.ctreasurescwonders.com/index.html - Original Message - From: Gary Fujihara To: MeteorList Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 12:46 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsitem=170585023324 current bid is at $180 for a 2.3g complete oriented Bassikounou H5 chondrite granted Geoff's offering is a pristine example of flight orientation of an OC, but would anybody in their right mind bid $79/g? FWIW, this 'new' guy has 0 feedback. Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at
[meteorite-list] Frederick, MD Meteorite claimed found and 2JAN2011 meteor
Dear List, Two news items: http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/ Frederick man claims to find meteor fragments Frederick News Post (subscription) By Meg Tully A man who witnessed a falling meteor last week says he has found parts of it. Al LaBrush was walking out of Danielle's restaurant in Frederick ... (Frederick, MD meteor; MA MD VA NY DC meteor 28DEC2010) Just Posted: Cumberland, Rhode Island Meteor Fireball 2JAN2011 11:50pm EST Happy New Year 2011! Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
