[meteorite-list] AD - last few hours for 192g Libyan Desert Glass
Hi folks, Just sayin' Last few hours for a nice and very interesting piece of LDG - all satiny smooth and little wedged-in Saharan pebbles http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=270708008081ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT Cordially yours, as ever Dave IMCA #0092 Sec.BIMS ps here's hoping this gets to the list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ziz or nwa 5549 (ad)
Hi list.Well all 21 inches from our blizzard is just all about gone.Is there any ZIZ or NWA 5549 available?Please email off list. Well they say its easier to lose wieght in the summer than the winter.Well I'll blow those myths away.I reached my goal weight of 225 in 7 weeks.Down from 260! Eating healthy,working out 5 times aweek,drinking lots of water.The best I have felt in 5 years.Have a great day all.Lets start seeing some meteorite falls. Steve R.Arnold, Chicago! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: The Pearls of the Vestals - Budget pieces
Dear list, Normally we hardly advertise a meteorite twice, but this time we want to give you a short note, because we hadn't set up a Special like usually - in general we wait for the NWA-number first, though when we had shown samples of this meteorite, the collectors didn't want to wait. And first and foremost, because this meteorite after our fancy, regarding its beauty and the huge variety of its forms of appearances, the cut stones offer, belongs to the most outstanding eucrites of our times. It's about the supposed NWA 5478-pairing from recently. After almost the whole load was sold out within one day, Stefan expertly prepared the remaining marbles we had left. Small half-stones, and the second course now, could be of special interest for the collector with limited budget, as the pieces rank between 20 and 60$ - many of them already gone too. (And for those aiming for highlights for their collections: the main mass stone, cut into halves is still available too). Despite the weights being small, we believe the specimens to be very use- and meaningful for any collector, as they show such an overabundance of amazing details and uncommon features, and aesthetically seen, they a true jewels. Well, and to whom that all sounds somewhat too elated, let's say it more soberly: If from 41 specimens, 32 are gone in 2 days - then that eucrite and that offer must have something.. So, just for feeling not responsible, for someone missing out on, we just wanted to give that quick reminder. If you're interested in, please send us an email, and we will send back the details about the pieces still left. (and if you ever wanted to know, why Vesta is a goddess? - You'll do so :-) Thank you for your attention, And have a fine Sunday. Martin Stefan Chladni's Heirs Munich - Berlin Fine Meteorites for Science Collectors http://www.chladnis-heirs.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Why Are Death Valley's Rocks Moving Themselves? --not off-topic at all!
If I might make a guess here The area is covered under a thin layer of water, not enough to cover the rocks. Then the temperature drops, forming a thin layer of ice, trapping the rocks. Then it doesn't need a lot of wind to drag along an ice sheet with frosen in rocks. As the rocks is still protruding from the ice, it forms tracks in the underlying surface. If more than one rock is trapped in the ice, then they will form parallel tracks, turning at the same time if the wind direction shifts. I've seen the tremendous force a loose ice sheet and a modest wind can achieve. Many years ago in spring I was at our cabin near a lake. The weather had been warm and calm so the ice sheet of the lake (3 km x 1 km big) was thawed a couple of meters around the edges. Then it started to blow straight towards us and the ice started to move. First slowly, hardly noticeable, then it started to creep up onto the beach. When it started I stood at the edge of the water but after fifteen minutes I had been pushed over a meter back by the ice and along the beach was a half meter wall of ice. Then it all stopped and I've never experienced it again, but I've seen the wall of ice deposited along beaches a couple of times since then. /Göran Stuart McDaniel wrote: Would you please explain what is meant by ice-rafting in laymen's terms?? Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society -Original Message- From: Rob Matson Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 3:06 PM To: Michael Groetz ; Meteorite List Subject: [meteorite-list] Why Are Death Valley's Rocks Moving Themselves? --not off-topic at all! Hi Michael, IMHO, it's definitely ice-rafting. It happens on any desert playa that is hard enough, receives sufficient winter rains, and gets cold enough to freeze at night. In California, I've seen the rock furrows at Silver Dry Lake, Superior Dry Lake, Cuddeback Dry Lake and (most recently) Coyote Dry Lake. I've also seen them on some Nevada playas as well as the Alvord Desert in Oregon, and they occur in Arizona, as well. SoCal got a lot of rain this past December -- so much so that even after three weeks of dry weather in January the northern third of Coyote was under water. I've never seen this in the decade I've been going there, and sure enough I saw rock trails there for the first time last month. Bob Verish, Nick Gessler and I coauthored an abstract and presentation on this subject, and in particular its implications for meteorite recovery, at the 65th Annual Meeting of the Meteoritical Society in 2002: http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/2002M%26PSA..37Q..51G Cheers, Rob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]On Behalf Of Michael Groetz Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 5:24 PM To: Meteorite List Subject: [meteorite-list] OT (Sorta...) Why Are Death Valley's Rocks MovingThemselves? Interesting photo- wish I could crawl out of my chair in Ohio and go check those rocks out. I know this has been discussed on the list before. Have a good night. Mike http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/02/18/death-valleys-rocks-moving-racetra ck-playa/ Why Are Death Valley's Rocks Moving Themselves? By Philip Schewe Published February 18, 2011 | Inside Science News Service Death Valley National Park contains many mysteries, including one of nature's strangest phenomena: rocks that seem to move around all on their own. In the remote, almost totally dry lakebed called Racetrack Playa, some of the rocks move themselves across the desert floor when people aren't watching. Scientists know the rocks move because they leave narrow tracks trailing behind them, but they haven't actually seen it happen. And although one can't entirely rule out the possibility of some prank being played, at least some of the rocks appear to be moving under natural circumstances. It doesn't rain often in Racetrack Playa, and when it does the lakebed can flood. The rocks don't float exactly, but the main explanation for their movement is that moisture can make the mud on which the rocks sit more slick, making it easier for high winds to push the rocks along. Another explanation offered is that the temporary deposit of water, chilled to form extensive sheets of ice, might help to reflect and focus the winds, making it easier for the rocks to move. The winds required to move rocks in this way would seem to be at the level of 100 mph or more. That's why the rocks are sometimes referred to as sailing stones. They are rare but they have been noticed in Racetrack Playa and a few other arid places around the world subject to occasional floods Ralph Lorenz, a scientist at Johns Hopkins University, offers a new explanation. The rocks are actually lifted up by the ice, or at least made more buoyant by the ice, making it easier for the rocks to migrate. If the rocks are moving about on ice rafts, the ground below cannot offer
[meteorite-list] AD - Meteorites for Sale
Here are some offerings from the Stephan collection: Barbotan...1.1 grams Kenna...1.04 g Canon citymicro Tabor2.076 g Tabor..0.726 g Chinguetti0.79 g Chiang-khan0.70 g Weston.30.0 g Twodot..5.3 g El Gouanem...4.5 g Shelburn0.178 g NWA 4565.5.2 g Polujamki..5.6 g Dhofar 485..205.5 g Sahara 97072.144.4 g NWA 1929.57.1 g For more information please e mail Twink Monrad off-list larrytwinkmon...@comcast.net PayPal is available __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD: The Pearls of the Vestals - Budget pieces
Without a doubt, those are some gorgeous specimens. :) On 2/20/11, Chladnis Heirs n...@chladnis-heirs.com wrote: Dear list, Normally we hardly advertise a meteorite twice, but this time we want to give you a short note, because we hadn't set up a Special like usually - in general we wait for the NWA-number first, though when we had shown samples of this meteorite, the collectors didn't want to wait. And first and foremost, because this meteorite after our fancy, regarding its beauty and the huge variety of its forms of appearances, the cut stones offer, belongs to the most outstanding eucrites of our times. It's about the supposed NWA 5478-pairing from recently. After almost the whole load was sold out within one day, Stefan expertly prepared the remaining marbles we had left. Small half-stones, and the second course now, could be of special interest for the collector with limited budget, as the pieces rank between 20 and 60$ - many of them already gone too. (And for those aiming for highlights for their collections: the main mass stone, cut into halves is still available too). Despite the weights being small, we believe the specimens to be very use- and meaningful for any collector, as they show such an overabundance of amazing details and uncommon features, and aesthetically seen, they a true jewels. Well, and to whom that all sounds somewhat too elated, let's say it more soberly: If from 41 specimens, 32 are gone in 2 days - then that eucrite and that offer must have something.. So, just for feeling not responsible, for someone missing out on, we just wanted to give that quick reminder. If you're interested in, please send us an email, and we will send back the details about the pieces still left. (and if you ever wanted to know, why Vesta is a goddess? - You'll do so :-) Thank you for your attention, And have a fine Sunday. Martin Stefan Chladni's Heirs Munich - Berlin Fine Meteorites for Science Collectors http://www.chladnis-heirs.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Meteorite Top List - http://meteorite.gotop100.com EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Why Are Death Valley's Rocks Moving Themselves? --not off-topic at all!
Hi there, haven't followed the whole thread, therefore sorry if it's a double post, here is an article about moving rocks on Planet Mars: http://www.ucalgary.ca/news/utoday/jan7-09/martianrock Best! Martin PS: Currently camping next to a promising rock, looking like a meteorite, in desert, waiting for it to trespass an imaginary line, from where on it will immediately lose its status as a natural heritage and its cultural properties. I have no incentive to announce it to the authorities, although it looks like ALH 84001, but has fresher fusion crust, because they will declare it to be property of the state. And they even won't give me back the dime for the phone call. Anyway, it would cause only troubles. So I wait... come to papa... and if it doesn't come... who cares. It's a strange thing, with that heritage and culture and the national importance. I'm born in the country, where Ernst Florens once invented the meteorites at all. 72 entries we have in the Bulletin, quite the same like Argentina or Canada, much more than Slovakia or Denmark. And seen surface and time, we even left Australia behind. In the neighbor state, Schreibers invented modern meteoritics. We both have no meteorite law!!! Eeek! How can this be possible - a true scandal!! (I know, I know an useless argument. In Australia, Oman, Argentina..nobody knows, who Ernst Florens and Carl von was.) -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Göran Axelsson Gesendet: Sonntag, 20. Februar 2011 13:35 An: Meteorite List Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Why Are Death Valley's Rocks Moving Themselves? --not off-topic at all! If I might make a guess here The area is covered under a thin layer of water, not enough to cover the rocks. Then the temperature drops, forming a thin layer of ice, trapping the rocks. Then it doesn't need a lot of wind to drag along an ice sheet with frosen in rocks. As the rocks is still protruding from the ice, it forms tracks in the underlying surface. If more than one rock is trapped in the ice, then they will form parallel tracks, turning at the same time if the wind direction shifts. I've seen the tremendous force a loose ice sheet and a modest wind can achieve. Many years ago in spring I was at our cabin near a lake. The weather had been warm and calm so the ice sheet of the lake (3 km x 1 km big) was thawed a couple of meters around the edges. Then it started to blow straight towards us and the ice started to move. First slowly, hardly noticeable, then it started to creep up onto the beach. When it started I stood at the edge of the water but after fifteen minutes I had been pushed over a meter back by the ice and along the beach was a half meter wall of ice. Then it all stopped and I've never experienced it again, but I've seen the wall of ice deposited along beaches a couple of times since then. /Göran __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT Ebay Question
Hi all...I'm getting ready to put some non meteorite items onto ebay for sale and got to wondering about something. When preparing an item for sale, ebay asks how long you want to list the item... like 3, 5, 7 or more days etc. I've chosen 5 days in the past. If I had chosen 7 days, is there some kind of hidden fee I'll get stuck with for the extra 2 days? I figure there's bound to be someone on this list that has crossed this path. Being the tightwad I am, I'm just trying to find out if this is another way ebay dings you. If it is, I just want to see it coming. :O) GeoZay __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT Ebay Question
Hi GeoZay. No. You can list up to 10 days. I know you can list up to 30 days but I believe that would be for Buy it Now items and other certain conditions that allow a 30 day. Hope this helps. Sincerely Don Merchant Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders http://www.ctreasurescwonders.com/index.html - Original Message - From: geo...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 10:31 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] OT Ebay Question Hi all...I'm getting ready to put some non meteorite items onto ebay for sale and got to wondering about something. When preparing an item for sale, ebay asks how long you want to list the item... like 3, 5, 7 or more days etc. I've chosen 5 days in the past. If I had chosen 7 days, is there some kind of hidden fee I'll get stuck with for the extra 2 days? I figure there's bound to be someone on this list that has crossed this path. Being the tightwad I am, I'm just trying to find out if this is another way ebay dings you. If it is, I just want to see it coming. :O) GeoZay __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT Ebay Question
Hi George and List, I think there is a small fee for a 10 day listing, but all listings from 3 to 7 days cost the same. Best regards, MikeG -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Meteorite Top List - http://meteorite.gotop100.com EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 2/20/11, geo...@aol.com geo...@aol.com wrote: Hi all...I'm getting ready to put some non meteorite items onto ebay for sale and got to wondering about something. When preparing an item for sale, ebay asks how long you want to list the item... like 3, 5, 7 or more days etc. I've chosen 5 days in the past. If I had chosen 7 days, is there some kind of hidden fee I'll get stuck with for the extra 2 days? I figure there's bound to be someone on this list that has crossed this path. Being the tightwad I am, I'm just trying to find out if this is another way ebay dings you. If it is, I just want to see it coming. :O) GeoZay __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Why Are Death Valley's Rocks Moving Themselves? --not off-topic at all!
Martin, Thank you for that. It is interesting but, I don't think wet conditions in lakebeds ( which seem obvious due to the checked pattern in the dried mud ) would apply the same as dry sand blowing. This brings to mind the question; why do we need co-ords of finds again? Now we know. We can estimate how far they have traveled based on their Earth age, soil, wind and rain conditions, etc. But how do we know all that? Too many questions. Never mind. Carl -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de wrote: Hi there, haven't followed the whole thread, therefore sorry if it's a double post, here is an article about moving rocks on Planet Mars: http://www.ucalgary.ca/news/utoday/jan7-09/martianrock Best! Martin PS: Currently camping next to a promising rock, looking like a meteorite, in desert, waiting for it to trespass an imaginary line, from where on it will immediately lose its status as a natural heritage and its cultural properties. I have no incentive to announce it to the authorities, although it looks like ALH 84001, but has fresher fusion crust, because they will declare it to be property of the state. And they even won't give me back the dime for the phone call. Anyway, it would cause only troubles. So I wait... come to papa... and if it doesn't come... who cares. It's a strange thing, with that heritage and culture and the national importance. I'm born in the country, where Ernst Florens once invented the meteorites at all. 72 entries we have in the Bulletin, quite the same like Argentina or Canada, much more than Slovakia or Denmark. And seen surface and time, we even left Australia behind. In the neighbor state, Schreibers invented modern meteoritics. We both have no meteorite law!!! Eeek! How can this be possible - a true scandal!! (I know, I know an useless argument. In Australia, Oman, Argentina..nobody knows, who Ernst Florens and Carl von was.) -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Göran Axelsson Gesendet: Sonntag, 20. Februar 2011 13:35 An: Meteorite List Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Why Are Death Valley's Rocks Moving Themselves? --not off-topic at all! If I might make a guess here The area is covered under a thin layer of water, not enough to cover the rocks. Then the temperature drops, forming a thin layer of ice, trapping the rocks. Then it doesn't need a lot of wind to drag along an ice sheet with frosen in rocks. As the rocks is still protruding from the ice, it forms tracks in the underlying surface. If more than one rock is trapped in the ice, then they will form parallel tracks, turning at the same time if the wind direction shifts. I've seen the tremendous force a loose ice sheet and a modest wind can achieve. Many years ago in spring I was at our cabin near a lake. The weather had been warm and calm so the ice sheet of the lake (3 km x 1 km big) was thawed a couple of meters around the edges. Then it started to blow straight towards us and the ice started to move. First slowly, hardly noticeable, then it started to creep up onto the beach. When it started I stood at the edge of the water but after fifteen minutes I had been pushed over a meter back by the ice and along the beach was a half meter wall of ice. Then it all stopped and I've never experienced it again, but I've seen the wall of ice deposited along beaches a couple of times since then. /Göran __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD~3 auctions ending shortly.Flanged button--Liberia coin and Jim Schwade Catalog
Good afternoon listees from the west coast of Ireland I'd like to kindly draw your attention to 3 auctions I have running that will be ending shortly.I should have timed these better so they ended later in U.S.A. time but here they are again. Firstly an almost complete flanged button Australite with Norm Lehrman provenance. since the last one on ebay went slightly beyond $1,000 if memory serves I thought I would start this one at $750 and let it run from there.No bids yet ,someone may get a bit of a bargain on this one. flanged button http://bit.ly/fjST7r secondly THE meteorite coin.The first legal tender meteorite imbedded coin.The $10 Liberia NWA 267 from 2004.I see Mr Merchant recently offered one here for $600 I have started mine at $300 as there are 2 minor issues which I point out in the auction.Mine will also come with a 2.5 gram fragment of NWA 267. RARE coin--I can't find one online anywhere. $10 Liberia NWA 267 coin http://bit.ly/h1cFZJ and finally for your enjoyment I have listed my spare copy of Jim Schwades Photographic Catalog.Started at just 99 cents for a bit of fun to see at what level our community values this catalog.It is pristine and signed by Jim--never opened Jim Schwade Catalog http://bit.ly/fMeYYF thank you and good luck if you are bidding Jim Brady IMCA 2424 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT Ebay Question
I think there is a small fee for a 10 day listing, but all listings from 3 to 7 days cost the same. Okay...I got several responses and they all say basically the same thing. I appreciate the prompt feedback guys. No need for any further responses from others...unless its radically different. Thanks all. :O) George Zay __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD-Ebay lunar 6355 Apollo 16, killer Diogenite and Odessa smalls
Hi all My NWA 6355 lunar has been flying off the shelves. It is grouped with the only lunar meteorites that are comparable to soils brought back by the Apollo 16 mission. Specifically, it is one of the only instances where lunar meteorites can be correlated with materials from a moon mission landing site (according to Dr. Irving). There are a few small pieces and one large complete 14g slice on Ebay. For discounted pricing, please contact me personally for sales. Also available are a couple killer small Odessa's from a 1960's collection. Easily the best smalls I have seen. NWA 6421 the Johnstown-like diogenite is a must-see. You can view my auctions here... http://stores.ebay.com/Mile-High-Meteorites. Matt Morgan Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD-Ebay lunar 6355 Apollo 16, killer Diogenite and Odessa smalls
I On Feb 20, 2011, at 10:46 AM, m...@mhmeteorites.com wrote: Hi all My NWA 6355 lunar has been flying off the shelves. It is grouped with the only lunar meteorites that are comparable to soils brought back by the Apollo 16 mission. Specifically, it is one of the only instances where lunar meteorites can be correlated with materials from a moon mission landing site (according to Dr. Irving). There are a few small pieces and one large complete 14g slice on Ebay. For discounted pricing, please contact me personally for sales. Also available are a couple killer small Odessa's from a 1960's collection. Easily the best smalls I have seen. NWA 6421 the Johnstown-like diogenite is a must-see. You can view my auctions here... http://stores.ebay.com/Mile-High-Meteorites. Matt Morgan Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Why Are Death Valley's Rocks Moving Themselves? --not off-topic at all!
Ice rafting is the wind or water currents moving a sheet of ice like a raft. When the ice raft hits shore it breaks up and makes piles some that can be very deep. Cheers Steve Dunklee __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Breja call for orders
Aloha mai kakou, I have an offer for collectors and dealers who are interested in acquiring Breja LL6 meteorites. Breja fell 3:00am May 1, 2010 in an area east of Zag. It features a velvety bluish black fusion crust not unlike Bensour, with a light matrix with abundant FeNi and FeS inclusions. I have brought in three loads in the past, which can be seen on my webpage: http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/Taouz.html Size range in these complete individuals, 90-100% fusion crusted, are 300-1000g. Prices will be in the range or lower of previous offerings (see website). Contact me offlist asap if interested. Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The Trials and Tribulations in Dealing with Landowners
Dealing with landowners can have their misunderstandings and rocky moments as discussed in Land deals, meteorites and money by Kim Wilhelm, KWCH 12 Eyewitness News, February 17, 2011 http://articles.kwch.com/2011-02-17/meteorite-hunting_28553456 Yours, Paul H. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Why Are Death Valley's Rocks Moving Themselves? --not off-topic at all!
So you saying these rocks are blown by the wind as they are floating on a sheet of ice? Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society -Original Message- From: Steve Dunklee Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 1:04 PM To: actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com ; mojave_meteori...@cox.net ; mpg4...@gmail.com ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Why Are Death Valley's Rocks Moving Themselves? --not off-topic at all! Ice rafting is the wind or water currents moving a sheet of ice like a raft. When the ice raft hits shore it breaks up and makes piles some that can be very deep. Cheers Steve Dunklee __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The Trials and Tribulations in Dealing with Landowners
Wow, this is really bad, like a gunpowder keg going off. Money, meteorites and press, a volatile mixture. I hope this is resolved quickly. Happy Hunting, Adam - Original Message From: Paul H. oxytropidoce...@cox.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sun, February 20, 2011 10:47:35 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] The Trials and Tribulations in Dealing with Landowners Dealing with landowners can have their misunderstandings and rocky moments as discussed in Land deals, meteorites and money by Kim Wilhelm, KWCH 12 Eyewitness News, February 17, 2011 http://articles.kwch.com/2011-02-17/meteorite-hunting_28553456 Yours, Paul H. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Why Are Death Valley's Rocks Moving Themselves? --not off-topic at all!
Not in the desert. There they are being moved by wind On Sun Feb 20th, 2011 2:14 PM EST Stuart McDaniel wrote: So you saying these rocks are blown by the wind as they are floating on a sheet of ice? Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society -Original Message- From: Steve Dunklee Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 1:04 PM To: actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com ; mojave_meteori...@cox.net ; mpg4...@gmail.com ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Why Are Death Valley's Rocks Moving Themselves? --not off-topic at all! Ice rafting is the wind or water currents moving a sheet of ice like a raft. When the ice raft hits shore it breaks up and makes piles some that can be very deep. Cheers Steve Dunklee __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Specimens for Sale!
Hi everyone! I got some specimens for sale. Here's the list. Sikhote-Alin - 122g - $255 - very high quality individual with many regmaglypts. Imilac - 11g - 110$ - very nice fragment. NWA 1794 - 11g - $25 - nice slice with many chondrules. Vaca Muerta - 17.2g - $35 - individual Tamdakht - 32.2g - $150 - beautiful individual with 99% fusion crust!! Shoot me an e-mail for photos. Happy Sunday! -- Felipe __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ebay store is open -sale-ad Back from Tucson new material and old priced to sell!
Hello everyone I have been getting my Ebay store re opened after several weeks in Tucson. I had a really good time talking to lots of new meteorite people, saw many new collectors out for their first or second meteorite. I saw some of the seasoned collectors but missed many of you that I thought would be in Tucson. I have loaded about 80 pieces on Ebay at this point, some new stuff...Jewelry, Gibeon full slices, Seymchan small full slices, nice crusted NWA XXX stones, small Gebel Kamil pieces, Sikhote pendants. Then I have lowered some of my normal great pieces to a level to move them out and make room for the new material I will be adding in the weeks to come. So have a look and you might find something new you have been looking for or a great buy on something else. Here is a link to my store http://shop.ebay.com/flattoprocks/m.html -- Mike Miller 3835 E Nicole Ave Kingman Az 86409 www.meteoritefinder.com 928-757-1378 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Breja
Hello all, I'm about to post a pic of Breja on the EoM and am wondering--is it provisional?? Thanks, John Imca#1896 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Breja
Hello John, I just checked on the Met Bulletin: _http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php_ (http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php) I don't know who did the classification, but obviously it has not been published yet. So, no, apparently it is not official yet, and the Nomenclature Committee could change the name. Or delay its publication. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _IMPACTIKA@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) In a message dated 2/20/2011 6:23:08 PM Mountain Standard Time, j...@hc.fdn.com writes: Hello all, I'm about to post a pic of Breja on the EoM and am wondering--is it provisional?? Thanks, John Imca#1896 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Breja
That's what i found as well. Thank you Anne, John. - Original Message - From: impact...@aol.com To: j...@hc.fdn.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Breja Hello John, I just checked on the Met Bulletin: _http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php_ (http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php) I don't know who did the classification, but obviously it has not been published yet. So, no, apparently it is not official yet, and the Nomenclature Committee could change the name. Or delay its publication. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _IMPACTIKA@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) In a message dated 2/20/2011 6:23:08 PM Mountain Standard Time, j...@hc.fdn.com writes: Hello all, I'm about to post a pic of Breja on the EoM and am wondering--is it provisional?? Thanks, John Imca#1896 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Breja
Is the fall date accurate? Chris Spratt (Via my iPhone) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The Trials and Tribulations in Dealing with Landowners
Paul, list, I heard all about this and more details at the Gem show. In Steve's defense. I think he is trying to find a market for these wonderful gem stones from space. The trouble is that he is not the only one who has these space gems. The truth is that these stones were available for purchase at the show from another dealer and they were considerably less expensive than the stated value in the article. So, there in lies the problem. IMHO, all involved are good people but, this economy is holding back the sales of these space gems. But, in this biz I have noticed that supply and demand often play a key roll. For Steve's sake and for that of this entire industry I do hope that these things sell quickly . It is my understanding that they are considerably more rare than diamonds yet are priced well below the cost of an equivalent flawless diamond. I agree with Adam. I too hope this is settled quickly and everybody lives long and prospers. Once again. The late great John Lennon once said possession is not nine-tenths of the law. It's nine-tenths of the problem. Best to all, Carl -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax Paul H. oxytropidoce...@cox.net wrote: Dealing with landowners can have their misunderstandings and rocky moments as discussed in Land deals, meteorites and money by Kim Wilhelm, KWCH 12 Eyewitness News, February 17, 2011 http://articles.kwch.com/2011-02-17/meteorite-hunting_28553456 Yours, Paul H. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The Trials and Tribulations in Dealing with Landowners
You ain't lived until you've stared down the receiving end of a shotgun held by a suspicious farmer. Once upon a time, I worked in Ontario for the then Department of Highways. I had to visit farmers all the time about government business. During my official duties I was accosted by very large dogs, the odd irate goose, one very pissed of swan, the odd mad bull and (my fondest memory) a very well armed member of the local motorcycle club, with an armory which would make today's Taliban envious. So good luck on ya, Chris Spratt (Via my iPhone) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The Trials and Tribulations in Dealing with Landowners
On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 22:00:28 -0500, you wrote: It is my understanding that they are considerably more rare than diamonds yet are priced well below the cost of an equivalent flawless diamond. http://www.arizona-peridot.com/Peridot_Prices.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The Trials and Tribulations in Dealing with Landowners
One of the main problems is with trust. This strewn field has been available for over 100 years and for all practical purposes now may be closed. It only takes one or two angry landowners to shut down the entire area to meteorite hunters. News of fraud, lawsuits and unpaid promised large sums of money, real or imagined spread like wildfire through these rural communities. The quicker this is resolved, the better. The hunting tradition in this area dates back to the Kimberly's, Nininger and Haag. It would be a shame to see it permanently off-limits now. Unfortunately, I witnessed the same thing with with the avocation of treasure hunting which still has not recovered after 25 years. Property owners used to grant permission freely to search but this is a rarity these days. Happy Hunting, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The Trials and Tribulations in Dealing with Landowners
Hello All, When you start pulling a ton of Brenham out of the ground don't expect to find, or quickly make, a market for it. Once the relatively small group of meteorite collectors (I'll bet there isn't five hundred that would but a pallasite in the world) get their specimens you will still have a massive amount left. Might sound like a good idea to destroy the meteorite to smelt out the peridot, but most of it, although rare, is badly shocked, irregularly shaped and included. Cosmic peridot will never touch the appeal of the terrestial big four...diamond, ruby, emerald and sapphire. A high end market for gem quality peridot doesn't exist and it would take years to move what was cut and polished. And at a loss. Per esempio...It's my wife's birthstone (August) and I was able to purcase a near flawless, brilliant cut, Mexican example of nearly 20 carats for less than a thousand dollars mounted in 18kt gold. Steve has a tough row to hoe Regards to all, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 MetSoc -Original Message- From: Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net Sent: Feb 20, 2011 7:23 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The Trials and Tribulations in Dealing with Landowners On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 22:00:28 -0500, you wrote: It is my understanding that they are considerably more rare than diamonds yet are priced well below the cost of an equivalent flawless diamond. http://www.arizona-peridot.com/Peridot_Prices.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The Trials and Tribulations in Dealing with Landowners
It's all in how you market it. With the big gemstones, they've been bought, sold, and used as a commodity for literally hundreds and probably thousands of years. Diamonds didn't get their current popularity/price until DeBeers started their major marketing campaigns. Just because something is rare doesn't mean its worth more than a diamond of similar size and quality: an object is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Here are some example of the rarest gemstones on earth: http://www.curiousnotions.com/gemstones/ They're all extremely rare but only have a specialty market, which is why most stay under $2000 per carat for the finest piece. Another example of rare gemstone is Bixbite from utah. It's a red beryl. Only 60 lbs of it have ever been mined (compared that to the ammount of pallasite out there), and they're very beautiful. The largest perfect gem of it ever cut weighs only about 3 cts. Still, most cut pieces are still only worth about $1000-$2000 per carat for anything under 1 ct. At the moment, space peridots are a specialty market. -Yinan On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net wrote: Hello All, When you start pulling a ton of Brenham out of the ground don't expect to find, or quickly make, a market for it. Once the relatively small group of meteorite collectors (I'll bet there isn't five hundred that would but a pallasite in the world) get their specimens you will still have a massive amount left. Might sound like a good idea to destroy the meteorite to smelt out the peridot, but most of it, although rare, is badly shocked, irregularly shaped and included. Cosmic peridot will never touch the appeal of the terrestial big four...diamond, ruby, emerald and sapphire. A high end market for gem quality peridot doesn't exist and it would take years to move what was cut and polished. And at a loss. Per esempio...It's my wife's birthstone (August) and I was able to purcase a near flawless, brilliant cut, Mexican example of nearly 20 carats for less than a thousand dollars mounted in 18kt gold. Steve has a tough row to hoe Regards to all, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 MetSoc -Original Message- From: Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net Sent: Feb 20, 2011 7:23 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The Trials and Tribulations in Dealing with Landowners On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 22:00:28 -0500, you wrote: It is my understanding that they are considerably more rare than diamonds yet are priced well below the cost of an equivalent flawless diamond. http://www.arizona-peridot.com/Peridot_Prices.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The Trials and Tribulations in Dealing with Landowners
I'll bet Bob Haag has the skinny on marketing cosmic periodot. He's been there and done that. And I will up my estimate of Brenham buyers to maybe 2000 world wide if you include the less than 30 grammers. But four figure peridot as jewelry500 max. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: Yinan Wang veom...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 20, 2011 9:17 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The Trials and Tribulations in Dealing with Landowners It's all in how you market it. With the big gemstones, they've been bought, sold, and used as a commodity for literally hundreds and probably thousands of years. Diamonds didn't get their current popularity/price until DeBeers started their major marketing campaigns. Just because something is rare doesn't mean its worth more than a diamond of similar size and quality: an object is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Here are some example of the rarest gemstones on earth: http://www.curiousnotions.com/gemstones/ They're all extremely rare but only have a specialty market, which is why most stay under $2000 per carat for the finest piece. Another example of rare gemstone is Bixbite from utah. It's a red beryl. Only 60 lbs of it have ever been mined (compared that to the ammount of pallasite out there), and they're very beautiful. The largest perfect gem of it ever cut weighs only about 3 cts. Still, most cut pieces are still only worth about $1000-$2000 per carat for anything under 1 ct. At the moment, space peridots are a specialty market. -Yinan On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net wrote: Hello All, When you start pulling a ton of Brenham out of the ground don't expect to find, or quickly make, a market for it. Once the relatively small group of meteorite collectors (I'll bet there isn't five hundred that would but a pallasite in the world) get their specimens you will still have a massive amount left. Might sound like a good idea to destroy the meteorite to smelt out the peridot, but most of it, although rare, is badly shocked, irregularly shaped and included. Cosmic peridot will never touch the appeal of the terrestial big four...diamond, ruby, emerald and sapphire. A high end market for gem quality peridot doesn't exist and it would take years to move what was cut and polished. And at a loss. Per esempio...It's my wife's birthstone (August) and I was able to purcase a near flawless, brilliant cut, Mexican example of nearly 20 carats for less than a thousand dollars mounted in 18kt gold. Steve has a tough row to hoe Regards to all, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 MetSoc -Original Message- From: Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net Sent: Feb 20, 2011 7:23 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The Trials and Tribulations in Dealing with Landowners On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 22:00:28 -0500, you wrote: It is my understanding that they are considerably more rare than diamonds yet are priced well below the cost of an equivalent flawless diamond. http://www.arizona-peridot.com/Peridot_Prices.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
