Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom
Eric...for some reason, the figure of about 9,000 mph sticks in my head as the point of retardation. I don't know where to resource that figure to see if its right or not...but I think its close. geozay George jut brought up a good point and I have a question. The speed of sound is about 760 MPH. What is the speed at which a meteoroid extinguishes and is no longer incandescent? I believe its in the neighborhood of 7,000 mph. If its a small meteoroid, it will extinguish way too high for a sonic boom to reach the ground. GeoZay __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tucson Ring Questions
Hello Mike and Listers Mike down below is a link to a Tucson Ring meteorite book and I was looking through the PFD and I saw the first known sketch of the Tucson Meteorite, made by John Russell Bartlett in 1852. If you have some time I would take a look at the file and see if this drawing could help and also the book might shed light on the part about when the Tucson ring was sectioned off. http://www.sendspace.com/file/8xvqh6 Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html [meteorite-list] Tucson Ring Questions Mike Bandli fuzzfoot at comcast.net Tue Mar 29 19:13:09 EDT 2011 Previous message: [meteorite-list] AD - Meteorites and Thin sections for sale! Next message: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Dear List, I vaguely remember seeing a schematic somewhere many years ago of how a sample of the Tucson Ring was sectioned into pieces. Does anyone remember this or know where I can find it? Also, I am interested in knowing where, exactly, samples were actually removed from the ring. I have an old woodcut from 1855 that shows the ring in its original state and I notice there is a nodular mass inside the ring that is not present on the current mass. Is this removed portion the source of all the small specimens in collections today? Thanks! -- Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com and join us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/Meteorites1 IMCA #5765 -- Previous message: [meteorite-list] AD - Meteorites and Thin sections for sale! Next message: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the Meteorite-list mailing list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] GREAT PHOTOS (EoM)
Hi John and all, Also see the May issue 2004 of Meteorite Magazine for more on the Smithsonian Collection. I took photos of specimens and gave my account of the visit with the readers of Meteorite Magazine. Nice article to read before you go. --AL Mitterling Quoting John Lutzon Russ Finney, I'm not sure of who i'm more jealous of--YOU--for being so close to all of those beauties or THE--Smithsonian: US National Museum (USNM) for not choosing my house to store them in, instead of some musty old museum. I'm still very much upset but in either case--GREAT PHOTOS!! John IMCA# 1896 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom
Op 30-3-2011 01:33, geo...@aol.com schreef: I'd be very interested to know if people beyond the heavy end of these falls heard the sonic boom? Does anybody know of a fireball fall and recovery where there were NO sonic booms? GeoZay When you mean that in terms of none reported: the Glanerbrug fall of 1990 in the Netherlands for example. Fireball and smoke trail widely seen, but no sonic booms reported. - Marco __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom
Hi Sonny all, Everyone has raised some interesting points so far. I remember doing a bit of study on this a number of years ago and one thing I found that stood out was that in all the situations I looked at, when meteorites were found they were ALL within 50km of where a sonic boom was heard. Most less than ~25km. I don't know how true that is and if it works in every case but for the dozen or so I looked at, that was the case. Some may also find my Sounds Associated with Witnessed Meteorite Falls page interesting. This list was put together by Bernd several years ago. Thanks again Bernd! ;-) http://www.meteorites.com.au/oddsends/sounds.html Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: wahlpe...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 12:34 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom Hi List, It seems like there have been many fireball sightings in the past few months but no material being found on the ground, as in the recent Oklahoma event. I was wondering if the absence of a sonic boom has anything to do with it. Does a sonic boom or explosion have to be present for a major meteorite producing event? Could there still be a few meteorites on the ground with no sonic boom? With Buzzard Coulee, Mifflin, Ash Creek these events all produced meteorites and sonic booms were heard by the locals. Does anyone know if there were sonic booms associated with the Park Forest and Whetstone events? Thanks, Sonny __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sonic Boom
Something to keep in mins is each time an irregularly shaped body wobbles and a promentory on the body sticks out into the slipstream a sonic boom aka shockwave will be formed. They also echo off mountain ranges making hearing them a cacophony of rumbles arriving long after the end of incandescent. ( in am in a challenge to legitimately use the world cacophony at least 5 times in my life.) Interesting question Ryan the meteoroid is traveling so disporportionately fast as compared to the sonic shockwave I surmise as has been my experience we hear sonic booms appear to come from different places in the sky. I've also seen some eyewitness reports suggesting multiple sonic booms arriveing at different times. I suspect this has to do with slope and wobble also. BTW George, I think the point of retardation is closer to 4500mph than 9000mph. Elton - Original Message From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com fallingfus...@wi.rr.com To: wahlpe...@aol.com; meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, March 29, 2011 10:28:04 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sonic Boom Hello Sonny and Listmembers, Interesting. Perhaps the sound waves travel around the epicenter (anything located directly beneath) as they move towards the ground. I imagine circular rings moving expanding in an outward direction as they travel to the Earths surface. The higher the altitude of breakup, the larger the rings will be when they touch down... and the further away one must be from the center to actually hear the sonic booms. This is just a guess. Anyone with more knowledge care to elaborate on this hypothesis? Ryan __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom
Good morning. Sonic booms are formed by shock wave created by the rapid displacement of air. The change in air pressure required to generate the shock wave is only a few pounds per SF. There is a wave generated on the front and at the back of a moving object. The size of the waves are determined by the size, shape and mass of the object. The ability to hear sonic booms are influenced by several factors besides the weight, shape and size of the moving object. Altitude, flight path and weather will influence the ability to actually hear the sonic boom on the ground. Altitude influences the distance the shock wave have to travel before hitting the ground. The wave dissipates with distance. This is probably the single biggest influence on the ability to hear the sonic boom. Wind can affect the shock wave as can the terrain on the earth underneath the flight of an object. Flight path can affect the wave. A straight path will generate a stronger wave than an irregular path. A meteor breaking up will have a more irregular path. The width of the wave for an aircraft is about 1 mile per 1000 feet of altitude. The wave is strongest directly below the object and weakest on the perimeter of the wave. The speed of sound as mentioned is a number that is for sea level. Differences in atmospheric conditions will allow for variances in the speed of sound. -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of geo...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 11:05 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom Eric...for some reason, the figure of about 9,000 mph sticks in my head as the point of retardation. I don't know where to resource that figure to see if its right or not...but I think its close. geozay George jut brought up a good point and I have a question. The speed of sound is about 760 MPH. What is the speed at which a meteoroid extinguishes and is no longer incandescent? I believe its in the neighborhood of 7,000 mph. If its a small meteoroid, it will extinguish way too high for a sonic boom to reach the ground. GeoZay __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom
Ablation ceases at 3-4 km/s (about Mach 10), and this is about where the meteoroid becomes invisible. For a typical meteorite, it will rapidly lose this remaining velocity and enter nearly vertical dark flight. Thanks Chris...When math gets beyond my ten fingers and ten toes, I get swamped. :O) Not sure if I've converted it right, but I end up with something like: 3km/s equals 1.76 miles/sec of which that equals about 6336 mph. again... 4km/s equals 2.35 miles/sec of which that equals about 8460 mph. So if I counted on my toes properly, the point of retardation in mph comes to be in the approximate range of 6336mph to 8460 mph? __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom
Hi Jeff and List Thanks for the link Sounds Associated with Witnessed Meteorite Falls. As a newcomer to chasing fireballs my experience is limited. My only reference is what locals experienced at Buzzard Coulee , Ash Creek and Mifflin. At Buzzard Coulee the locals within the main strewn field explained the event as explosions of large fireworks. One resident was working in his garage said it sounded like someone was rolling bowling balls across his tin roof than a large flash illuminated outside. Ash Creek residents under one of the main breakups reported hearing a large explosion and then seeing a smoke trail followed by two more explosions. At Mifflin I had a chance to talk with numerous residents. Near Mineral Point one person described the sound as a large explosion followed by a popping sound and then a vacuum sound as the meteor passed overhead. At the far end of the strewn field 10 miles East of Mineral Point the sound was described as rumbling sound compared to thunder followed by the same vacuum sound as the meteor passed overhead. The best way they explained the vacuum sound was as if a military jet was passing directly overhead at high speed. Sonny -Original Message- From: Jeff Kuyken i...@meteorites.com.au To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; wahlperry wahlpe...@aol.com Sent: Tue, Mar 29, 2011 11:02 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom Hi Sonny all,Everyone has raised some interesting points so far. I remember doing a bit of study on this a number of years ago and one thing I found that stood out was that in all the situations I looked at, when meteorites were found they were ALL within 50km of where a sonic boom was heard. Most less than ~25km. I don't know how true that is and if it works in every case but for the dozen or so I looked at, that was the case.Some may also find my Sounds Associated with Witnessed Meteorite Falls page interesting. This list was put together by Bernd several years ago. Thanks again Bernd! ;-)http://www.meteorites.com.au/oddsends/sounds.htmlCheers,Jeff- Original Message - From: wahlpe...@aol.comTo: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comSent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 12:34 AMSubject: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom Hi List, It seems like there have been many fireball sightings in the past few months but no material being found on the ground, as in the recent Oklahoma event. I was wondering if the absence of a sonic boom has anything to do with it. Does a sonic boom or explosion have to be present for a major meteorite producing event? Could there still be a few meteorites on the ground with no sonic boom? With Buzzard Coulee, Mifflin, Ash Creek these events all produced meteorites and sonic booms were heard by the locals. Does anyone know if there were sonic booms associated with the Park Forest and Whetstone events? Thanks, Sonny __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Color of OC's by Staining or by Trace Elements
Hi List: I hope everyone is well. I have a question regarding the 'color' of OC's through staining by some mineral influx or by oxidation. It appears most fresh OC's start out as a light beige or tan color; then through time the metal rusts and they often turn yellowish, orange, or brownish - this make sense. My questions is this: What other colors can they become, blue or green? What element(s) result in different colors? What different weathering processes are involved? The reason I ask is because I have a weathered meteorite that is dark green in color; it looks like jade and I have not seen any like this one before. I have also and seen OC's with a 'black' color, what causes that? Thanks, Greg S. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Color of OC's by Staining or by Trace Elements
Hi Greg and List, Great question Greg. I'm curious to hear what the experts have to say. Some OC's start out as white or light-grey - like some LL6 types. That is why some LL6 meteorites are mistaken for lunars or eucrites - because they lack chondrules and have that whitish color. Best regards, MikeG -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 3/30/11, Thunder Stone stanleygr...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi List: I hope everyone is well. I have a question regarding the 'color' of OC's through staining by some mineral influx or by oxidation. It appears most fresh OC's start out as a light beige or tan color; then through time the metal rusts and they often turn yellowish, orange, or brownish - this make sense. My questions is this: What other colors can they become, blue or green? What element(s) result in different colors? What different weathering processes are involved? The reason I ask is because I have a weathered meteorite that is dark green in color; it looks like jade and I have not seen any like this one before. I have also and seen OC's with a 'black' color, what causes that? Thanks, Greg S. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] MESSENGER Sends Back First Image of Mercury from Orbit
http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/news_room/details.php?id=165 MESSENGER Mission News March 29, 2011 MESSENGER Sends Back First Image of Mercury from Orbit MESSENGER has delivered its first image http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/gallery/sciencePhotos/image.php?gallery_id=2image_id=432 since entering orbit about Mercury on March 17. It was taken today at 5:20 am EDT by the Mercury Dual Imaging System as the spacecraft sailed high above Mercury's south pole, and provides a glimpse of portions of Mercury's surface not previously seen by spacecraft. The image was acquired as part of the orbital commissioning phase of the MESSENGER mission. Continuous global mapping of Mercury will begin on April 4. The entire MESSENGER team is thrilled that spacecraft and instrument checkout has been proceeding according to plan, says MESSENGER Principal Investigator Sean Solomon, of the Carnegie Institution of Washington. The first images from orbit and the first measurements from MESSENGER's other payload instruments are only the opening trickle of the flood of new information that we can expect over the coming year. The orbital exploration of the Solar System's innermost planet has begun. Several other images will be available Wednesday, March 30, in conjunction with a media teleconference at 2 p.m. EDT to discuss the initial orbital images taken from the first spacecraft to orbit Mercury. Media teleconference participants are: -- Sean Solomon, MESSENGER principal investigator, Carnegie Institution of Washington -- Eric Finnegan, MESSENGER mission systems engineer, Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory, Laurel. Md. To participate in the teleconference, reporters must contact Dwayne Brown at dwayne.c.br...@nasa.gov or 202-358-1726 for dial-in instructions. During the teleconference, MESSENGER information and images will be available at http://www.nasa.gov/messenger and http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/news_room/presscon8.html. Audio of the teleconference will be streamed live on NASA's website at: http://www.nasa.gov/newsaudio. /MESSENGER (MErcury Surface, Space ENvironment, GEochemistry, and Ranging) is a NASA-sponsored scientific investigation of the planet Mercury and the first space mission designed to orbit the planet closest to the Sun. The MESSENGER spacecraft launched on August 3, 2004, and entered orbit about Mercury on March 17, 2011 (March 18, 2011 UTC), to begin a yearlong study of its target planet. Dr. Sean C. Solomon, of the Carnegie Institution of Washington, leads the mission as Principal Investigator. The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory built and operates the MESSENGER spacecraft and manages this Discovery-class mission for NASA. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] MESSENGER Sends Back First Image of Mercury from Orbit
I see Angrites... I see Angrites... It's amazing how similar it looks to the moon. Awesome picture. Greg S. From: baa...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 10:40:43 -0700 Subject: [meteorite-list] MESSENGER Sends Back First Image of Mercury from Orbit http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/news_room/details.php?id=165 MESSENGER Mission News March 29, 2011 MESSENGER Sends Back First Image of Mercury from Orbit MESSENGER has delivered its first image since entering orbit about Mercury on March 17. It was taken today at 5:20 am EDT by the Mercury Dual Imaging System as the spacecraft sailed high above Mercury's south pole, and provides a glimpse of portions of Mercury's surface not previously seen by spacecraft. The image was acquired as part of the orbital commissioning phase of the MESSENGER mission. Continuous global mapping of Mercury will begin on April 4. The entire MESSENGER team is thrilled that spacecraft and instrument checkout has been proceeding according to plan, says MESSENGER Principal Investigator Sean Solomon, of the Carnegie Institution of Washington. The first images from orbit and the first measurements from MESSENGER's other payload instruments are only the opening trickle of the flood of new information that we can expect over the coming year. The orbital exploration of the Solar System's innermost planet has begun. Several other images will be available Wednesday, March 30, in conjunction with a media teleconference at 2 p.m. EDT to discuss the initial orbital images taken from the first spacecraft to orbit Mercury. Media teleconference participants are: -- Sean Solomon, MESSENGER principal investigator, Carnegie Institution of Washington -- Eric Finnegan, MESSENGER mission systems engineer, Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory, Laurel. Md. To participate in the teleconference, reporters must contact Dwayne Brown at dwayne.c.br...@nasa.gov or 202-358-1726 for dial-in instructions. During the teleconference, MESSENGER information and images will be available at http://www.nasa.gov/messenger and http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/news_room/presscon8.html. Audio of the teleconference will be streamed live on NASA's website at: http://www.nasa.gov/newsaudio. /MESSENGER (MErcury Surface, Space ENvironment, GEochemistry, and Ranging) is a NASA-sponsored scientific investigation of the planet Mercury and the first space mission designed to orbit the planet closest to the Sun. The MESSENGER spacecraft launched on August 3, 2004, and entered orbit about Mercury on March 17, 2011 (March 18, 2011 UTC), to begin a yearlong study of its target planet. Dr. Sean C. Solomon, of the Carnegie Institution of Washington, leads the mission as Principal Investigator. The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory built and operates the MESSENGER spacecraft and manages this Discovery-class mission for NASA. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Need medals - CD, Campo, NWA869 and others
Hi Who owns this medals (not silver coins)? I need some. Please contact me off-list -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM: +48 (793) 567667 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] MESSENGER Sends Back First Image of Mercury from Orbit
I see Angrites... I see Angrites... It's amazing how similar it looks to the moon. Awesome picture There appears to be a major dis-similar feature to me...Mercury seems to lack any of the Mare's. GeoZay __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] MESSENGER Sends Back First Image of Mercury from Orbit
Wow, Looks like when that big rock hit the Earth. It created two Moons. One just got bounced a bit further away. Sometimes you feel like Mare's, sometimes you don't? -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax geo...@aol.com wrote: I see Angrites... I see Angrites... It's amazing how similar it looks to the moon. Awesome picture There appears to be a major dis-similar feature to me...Mercury seems to lack any of the Mare's. GeoZay __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Alfianello nicest end piece with crust
I have for sale a nice 5.7 gr. end piece with at 70% of crust of Alfianello, specimen measure 17.65x14.57x11.46 mm, photos are here: http://imageupper.com/i/?S0100010030011B13015148361344054 http://imageupper.com/i/?S0100010030021B13015148361344054 Price its € 500,00 Matteo M come Meteorite Meteoriti i...@mcomemeteorite.it http://www.mcomemeteorite.it http://www.mcomemeteorite.eu Mindat Gallery http://www.mindat.org/gallery-5018.html ChinellatoPhoto Servizi Fotografici http://www.chinellatophoto.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Response to fraudulent Ebay listing using Blaine's name
Hello Everybody, A few days ago Richard Montgomery brought to my attention that someone was selling a meteorite on Ebay using Blaine Reed's name. I forwarded the information to Blaine, and here is his response, below. Thank you Richard. And please do let us know if you all see any other similar problems on Ebay. Thank you. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com President of IMCA www.IMCA.cc In a message dated 03/30/11 15:20:11 Mountain Daylight Time, brmeteori...@yahoo.com writes: Hi everybody, I just got home from another long trip to find people asking me about this fraudulent E-Bay listing using my name. I did indeed do analysis work on three different pieces of the same stuff for these people at the Tucson show. The results were given, as shown, as simply written on the back of my card. HOWEVER, these jerks ADDED the Ni next to the Fe to what I had written and claimed that the number represented the combination of Fe and Ni. There was NO nickel what so ever in any of the three samples. I told them several times point blank that they DO NOT HAVE A METEORITE. What they had was a quite titanium rich magnetite. I also told them (as a consolation of sorts) that, if there was enough of this stuff where they found it, they may have the makings of a titanium mine. I guess this is a serious blow to my model of offering analysis of specimens for the public. It seems that there is no way I can stop these delusional i diots from misrepresenting or outright falsifying the data I give them (as these people did). I may have to reconsider my plans for offering this service (or how I handle delivering the data at the very least). I want to ask people out there to keep an eye out for these jokers offering this stuff again and let me know if they do (brmeteori...@yahoo.com). I have tried to file a complaint with E-Bbay on this listing, but was only given 100 characters (about a dozen words) to describe my problem/ issue with the listing! No way I can explain to the don't give a damn people at Ebay in that little space. I'll try again none the less if someone lets me know about a similar listing while it is still active. Thanks for your help and understanding (that i would never give the thumbs up to something so obviously bogus). Blaine Reed --- On Wed, 3/30/11, Impactika impact...@aol.com wrote: From: Impactika impact...@aol.com Subject: Fwd: goldierocks thought you might like this item on eBay To: brmeteori...@yahoo.com Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 2:59 PM In a message dated 03/27/11 09:21:50 Mountain Daylight Time, mem...@ebay.com writes: _http://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11030.m44.l1120/7_ (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11030.m44.l1120/7) ? euid=0bf5bfa72dfb441f956db39faab6a6c2loc=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2Fe BayISAPI.dll%3FViewItem%26%26item%3D320675837962%26ssPageName%3DADME%3AB%3AE F%3AUS%3A1120 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Response to fraudulent Ebay listing using Blaine's name
Blaine - no good deed goes unpunished, even in the meteorite world. Maybe you should limit your analysis service to people you know or people who are members of the meteorite community in good standing. Best regards, MikeG -- -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 3/30/11, impact...@aol.com impact...@aol.com wrote: Hello Everybody, A few days ago Richard Montgomery brought to my attention that someone was selling a meteorite on Ebay using Blaine Reed's name. I forwarded the information to Blaine, and here is his response, below. Thank you Richard. And please do let us know if you all see any other similar problems on Ebay. Thank you. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com President of IMCA www.IMCA.cc In a message dated 03/30/11 15:20:11 Mountain Daylight Time, brmeteori...@yahoo.com writes: Hi everybody, I just got home from another long trip to find people asking me about this fraudulent E-Bay listing using my name. I did indeed do analysis work on three different pieces of the same stuff for these people at the Tucson show. The results were given, as shown, as simply written on the back of my card. HOWEVER, these jerks ADDED the Ni next to the Fe to what I had written and claimed that the number represented the combination of Fe and Ni. There was NO nickel what so ever in any of the three samples. I told them several times point blank that they DO NOT HAVE A METEORITE. What they had was a quite titanium rich magnetite. I also told them (as a consolation of sorts) that, if there was enough of this stuff where they found it, they may have the makings of a titanium mine. I guess this is a serious blow to my model of offering analysis of specimens for the public. It seems that there is no way I can stop these delusional i diots from misrepresenting or outright falsifying the data I give them (as these people did). I may have to reconsider my plans for offering this service (or how I handle delivering the data at the very least). I want to ask people out there to keep an eye out for these jokers offering this stuff again and let me know if they do (brmeteori...@yahoo.com). I have tried to file a complaint with E-Bbay on this listing, but was only given 100 characters (about a dozen words) to describe my problem/ issue with the listing! No way I can explain to the don't give a damn people at Ebay in that little space. I'll try again none the less if someone lets me know about a similar listing while it is still active. Thanks for your help and understanding (that i would never give the thumbs up to something so obviously bogus). Blaine Reed --- On Wed, 3/30/11, Impactika impact...@aol.com wrote: From: Impactika impact...@aol.com Subject: Fwd: goldierocks thought you might like this item on eBay To: brmeteori...@yahoo.com Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 2:59 PM In a message dated 03/27/11 09:21:50 Mountain Daylight Time, mem...@ebay.com writes: _http://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11030.m44.l1120/7_ (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11030.m44.l1120/7) ? euid=0bf5bfa72dfb441f956db39faab6a6c2loc=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2Fe BayISAPI.dll%3FViewItem%26%26item%3D320675837962%26ssPageName%3DADME%3AB%3AE F%3AUS%3A1120 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Response to fraudulent Ebay listing using Blaine's name
I think this is where all the meteorite friends could come together and inundate the eBay patrol people with issues. They will bow to pressure and then go outside and play volleyball or soccer, I see them almost daily when I'm driving to work. :-) And yes they are real people. (Though I think the policy deciders are not human.) Rob H PS: I still have about 3 kg of my Oman meteorites if anyone wants them, they are boxed up and ready to go. Might be nice for a dealer and they are all 3 grams or more (no little bits). -- From: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 5:18 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: brmeteori...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Response to fraudulent Ebay listing using Blaine's name Blaine - no good deed goes unpunished, even in the meteorite world. Maybe you should limit your analysis service to people you know or people who are members of the meteorite community in good standing. Best regards, MikeG -- -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 3/30/11, impact...@aol.com impact...@aol.com wrote: Hello Everybody, A few days ago Richard Montgomery brought to my attention that someone was selling a meteorite on Ebay using Blaine Reed's name. I forwarded the information to Blaine, and here is his response, below. Thank you Richard. And please do let us know if you all see any other similar problems on Ebay. Thank you. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com President of IMCA www.IMCA.cc In a message dated 03/30/11 15:20:11 Mountain Daylight Time, brmeteori...@yahoo.com writes: Hi everybody, I just got home from another long trip to find people asking me about this fraudulent E-Bay listing using my name. I did indeed do analysis work on three different pieces of the same stuff for these people at the Tucson show. The results were given, as shown, as simply written on the back of my card. HOWEVER, these jerks ADDED the Ni next to the Fe to what I had written and claimed that the number represented the combination of Fe and Ni. There was NO nickel what so ever in any of the three samples. I told them several times point blank that they DO NOT HAVE A METEORITE. What they had was a quite titanium rich magnetite. I also told them (as a consolation of sorts) that, if there was enough of this stuff where they found it, they may have the makings of a titanium mine. I guess this is a serious blow to my model of offering analysis of specimens for the public. It seems that there is no way I can stop these delusional i diots from misrepresenting or outright falsifying the data I give them (as these people did). I may have to reconsider my plans for offering this service (or how I handle delivering the data at the very least). I want to ask people out there to keep an eye out for these jokers offering this stuff again and let me know if they do (brmeteori...@yahoo.com). I have tried to file a complaint with E-Bbay on this listing, but was only given 100 characters (about a dozen words) to describe my problem/ issue with the listing! No way I can explain to the don't give a damn people at Ebay in that little space. I'll try again none the less if someone lets me know about a similar listing while it is still active. Thanks for your help and understanding (that i would never give the thumbs up to something so obviously bogus). Blaine Reed --- On Wed, 3/30/11, Impactika impact...@aol.com wrote: From: Impactika impact...@aol.com Subject: Fwd: goldierocks thought you might like this item on eBay To: brmeteori...@yahoo.com Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 2:59 PM In a message dated 03/27/11 09:21:50 Mountain Daylight Time, mem...@ebay.com writes: _http://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11030.m44.l1120/7_ (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11030.m44.l1120/7) ? euid=0bf5bfa72dfb441f956db39faab6a6c2loc=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2Fe BayISAPI.dll%3FViewItem%26%26item%3D320675837962%26ssPageName%3DADME%3AB%3AE F%3AUS%3A1120 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Response to fraudulent Ebay listing using Blaine's name
Shame on them!! Do you have a link we can see?? Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society Member - KCA, KBCA, CDUSA -Original Message- From: Michael Gilmer Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 8:18 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: brmeteori...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Response to fraudulent Ebay listing using Blaine's name Blaine - no good deed goes unpunished, even in the meteorite world. Maybe you should limit your analysis service to people you know or people who are members of the meteorite community in good standing. Best regards, MikeG -- -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 3/30/11, impact...@aol.com impact...@aol.com wrote: Hello Everybody, A few days ago Richard Montgomery brought to my attention that someone was selling a meteorite on Ebay using Blaine Reed's name. I forwarded the information to Blaine, and here is his response, below. Thank you Richard. And please do let us know if you all see any other similar problems on Ebay. Thank you. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com President of IMCA www.IMCA.cc In a message dated 03/30/11 15:20:11 Mountain Daylight Time, brmeteori...@yahoo.com writes: Hi everybody, I just got home from another long trip to find people asking me about this fraudulent E-Bay listing using my name. I did indeed do analysis work on three different pieces of the same stuff for these people at the Tucson show. The results were given, as shown, as simply written on the back of my card. HOWEVER, these jerks ADDED the Ni next to the Fe to what I had written and claimed that the number represented the combination of Fe and Ni. There was NO nickel what so ever in any of the three samples. I told them several times point blank that they DO NOT HAVE A METEORITE. What they had was a quite titanium rich magnetite. I also told them (as a consolation of sorts) that, if there was enough of this stuff where they found it, they may have the makings of a titanium mine. I guess this is a serious blow to my model of offering analysis of specimens for the public. It seems that there is no way I can stop these delusional i diots from misrepresenting or outright falsifying the data I give them (as these people did). I may have to reconsider my plans for offering this service (or how I handle delivering the data at the very least). I want to ask people out there to keep an eye out for these jokers offering this stuff again and let me know if they do (brmeteori...@yahoo.com). I have tried to file a complaint with E-Bbay on this listing, but was only given 100 characters (about a dozen words) to describe my problem/ issue with the listing! No way I can explain to the don't give a damn people at Ebay in that little space. I'll try again none the less if someone lets me know about a similar listing while it is still active. Thanks for your help and understanding (that i would never give the thumbs up to something so obviously bogus). Blaine Reed --- On Wed, 3/30/11, Impactika impact...@aol.com wrote: From: Impactika impact...@aol.com Subject: Fwd: goldierocks thought you might like this item on eBay To: brmeteori...@yahoo.com Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 2:59 PM In a message dated 03/27/11 09:21:50 Mountain Daylight Time, mem...@ebay.com writes: _http://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11030.m44.l1120/7_ (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11030.m44.l1120/7) ? euid=0bf5bfa72dfb441f956db39faab6a6c2loc=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2Fe BayISAPI.dll%3FViewItem%26%26item%3D320675837962%26ssPageName%3DADME%3AB%3AE F%3AUS%3A1120 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Color of OC's by Staining or by Trace Elements
I'll bet a chocolate milkshake : o ) you are seeing manganese (or Mn-Fe combo) weathering. EDS can verify this. Jonathan ICMA 3922 - Original Message - From: Thunder Stone stanleygr...@hotmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 9:11 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Color of OC's by Staining or by Trace Elements Hi List: I hope everyone is well. I have a question regarding the 'color' of OC's through staining by some mineral influx or by oxidation. It appears most fresh OC's start out as a light beige or tan color; then through time the metal rusts and they often turn yellowish, orange, or brownish - this make sense. My questions is this: What other colors can they become, blue or green? What element(s) result in different colors? What different weathering processes are involved? The reason I ask is because I have a weathered meteorite that is dark green in color; it looks like jade and I have not seen any like this one before. I have also and seen OC's with a 'black' color, what causes that? Thanks, Greg S. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Response to fraudulent Ebay listing using Blaine's name
Link - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320675837962 On 3/30/11, Stuart McDaniel actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com wrote: Shame on them!! Do you have a link we can see?? Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society Member - KCA, KBCA, CDUSA -Original Message- From: Michael Gilmer Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 8:18 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: brmeteori...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Response to fraudulent Ebay listing using Blaine's name Blaine - no good deed goes unpunished, even in the meteorite world. Maybe you should limit your analysis service to people you know or people who are members of the meteorite community in good standing. Best regards, MikeG -- -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 3/30/11, impact...@aol.com impact...@aol.com wrote: Hello Everybody, A few days ago Richard Montgomery brought to my attention that someone was selling a meteorite on Ebay using Blaine Reed's name. I forwarded the information to Blaine, and here is his response, below. Thank you Richard. And please do let us know if you all see any other similar problems on Ebay. Thank you. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com President of IMCA www.IMCA.cc In a message dated 03/30/11 15:20:11 Mountain Daylight Time, brmeteori...@yahoo.com writes: Hi everybody, I just got home from another long trip to find people asking me about this fraudulent E-Bay listing using my name. I did indeed do analysis work on three different pieces of the same stuff for these people at the Tucson show. The results were given, as shown, as simply written on the back of my card. HOWEVER, these jerks ADDED the Ni next to the Fe to what I had written and claimed that the number represented the combination of Fe and Ni. There was NO nickel what so ever in any of the three samples. I told them several times point blank that they DO NOT HAVE A METEORITE. What they had was a quite titanium rich magnetite. I also told them (as a consolation of sorts) that, if there was enough of this stuff where they found it, they may have the makings of a titanium mine. I guess this is a serious blow to my model of offering analysis of specimens for the public. It seems that there is no way I can stop these delusional i diots from misrepresenting or outright falsifying the data I give them (as these people did). I may have to reconsider my plans for offering this service (or how I handle delivering the data at the very least). I want to ask people out there to keep an eye out for these jokers offering this stuff again and let me know if they do (brmeteori...@yahoo.com). I have tried to file a complaint with E-Bbay on this listing, but was only given 100 characters (about a dozen words) to describe my problem/ issue with the listing! No way I can explain to the don't give a damn people at Ebay in that little space. I'll try again none the less if someone lets me know about a similar listing while it is still active. Thanks for your help and understanding (that i would never give the thumbs up to something so obviously bogus). Blaine Reed --- On Wed, 3/30/11, Impactika impact...@aol.com wrote: From: Impactika impact...@aol.com Subject: Fwd: goldierocks thought you might like this item on eBay To: brmeteori...@yahoo.com Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 2:59 PM In a message dated 03/27/11 09:21:50 Mountain Daylight Time, mem...@ebay.com writes: _http://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11030.m44.l1120/7_ (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11030.m44.l1120/7) ? euid=0bf5bfa72dfb441f956db39faab6a6c2loc=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2Fe BayISAPI.dll%3FViewItem%26%26item%3D320675837962%26ssPageName%3DADME%3AB%3AE F%3AUS%3A1120 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed -
Re: [meteorite-list] Color of OC's by Staining or by Trace Elements
Oops. I left the word sulfide out of my response (see below) I'll bet a chocolate milkshake : o ) you are seeing manganese (or Mn-Fe combo) SULFIDE weathering. EDS can verify this. Jonathan ICMA 3922 - Original Message - From: Jonathan E. Dongell jdong...@cox.net To: Thunder Stone stanleygr...@hotmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Color of OC's by Staining or by Trace Elements I'll bet a chocolate milkshake : o ) you are seeing manganese (or Mn-Fe combo) weathering. EDS can verify this. Jonathan ICMA 3922 - Original Message - From: Thunder Stone stanleygr...@hotmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 9:11 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Color of OC's by Staining or by Trace Elements Hi List: I hope everyone is well. I have a question regarding the 'color' of OC's through staining by some mineral influx or by oxidation. It appears most fresh OC's start out as a light beige or tan color; then through time the metal rusts and they often turn yellowish, orange, or brownish - this make sense. My questions is this: What other colors can they become, blue or green? What element(s) result in different colors? What different weathering processes are involved? The reason I ask is because I have a weathered meteorite that is dark green in color; it looks like jade and I have not seen any like this one before. I have also and seen OC's with a 'black' color, what causes that? Thanks, Greg S. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Response to fraudulent Ebay listing using Blaine's name
Some people just have no shame. Dang. Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society Member - KCA, KBCA, CDUSA -Original Message- From: Michael Gilmer Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 9:03 PM To: Stuart McDaniel Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com ; brmeteori...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Response to fraudulent Ebay listing using Blaine's name Link - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320675837962 On 3/30/11, Stuart McDaniel actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com wrote: Shame on them!! Do you have a link we can see?? Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society Member - KCA, KBCA, CDUSA -Original Message- From: Michael Gilmer Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 8:18 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: brmeteori...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Response to fraudulent Ebay listing using Blaine's name Blaine - no good deed goes unpunished, even in the meteorite world. Maybe you should limit your analysis service to people you know or people who are members of the meteorite community in good standing. Best regards, MikeG -- -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 3/30/11, impact...@aol.com impact...@aol.com wrote: Hello Everybody, A few days ago Richard Montgomery brought to my attention that someone was selling a meteorite on Ebay using Blaine Reed's name. I forwarded the information to Blaine, and here is his response, below. Thank you Richard. And please do let us know if you all see any other similar problems on Ebay. Thank you. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com President of IMCA www.IMCA.cc In a message dated 03/30/11 15:20:11 Mountain Daylight Time, brmeteori...@yahoo.com writes: Hi everybody, I just got home from another long trip to find people asking me about this fraudulent E-Bay listing using my name. I did indeed do analysis work on three different pieces of the same stuff for these people at the Tucson show. The results were given, as shown, as simply written on the back of my card. HOWEVER, these jerks ADDED the Ni next to the Fe to what I had written and claimed that the number represented the combination of Fe and Ni. There was NO nickel what so ever in any of the three samples. I told them several times point blank that they DO NOT HAVE A METEORITE. What they had was a quite titanium rich magnetite. I also told them (as a consolation of sorts) that, if there was enough of this stuff where they found it, they may have the makings of a titanium mine. I guess this is a serious blow to my model of offering analysis of specimens for the public. It seems that there is no way I can stop these delusional i diots from misrepresenting or outright falsifying the data I give them (as these people did). I may have to reconsider my plans for offering this service (or how I handle delivering the data at the very least). I want to ask people out there to keep an eye out for these jokers offering this stuff again and let me know if they do (brmeteori...@yahoo.com). I have tried to file a complaint with E-Bbay on this listing, but was only given 100 characters (about a dozen words) to describe my problem/ issue with the listing! No way I can explain to the don't give a damn people at Ebay in that little space. I'll try again none the less if someone lets me know about a similar listing while it is still active. Thanks for your help and understanding (that i would never give the thumbs up to something so obviously bogus). Blaine Reed --- On Wed, 3/30/11, Impactika impact...@aol.com wrote: From: Impactika impact...@aol.com Subject: Fwd: goldierocks thought you might like this item on eBay To: brmeteori...@yahoo.com Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 2:59 PM In a message dated 03/27/11 09:21:50 Mountain Daylight Time, mem...@ebay.com writes: _http://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11030.m44.l1120/7_ (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11030.m44.l1120/7) ? euid=0bf5bfa72dfb441f956db39faab6a6c2loc=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2Fe BayISAPI.dll%3FViewItem%26%26item%3D320675837962%26ssPageName%3DADME%3AB%3AE F%3AUS%3A1120 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Re: [meteorite-list] Response to fraudulent Ebay listing usingBlaine's name
Hi List. I should have originally added this to my inital post. Best is to reference the eBay item number, although I don't know if anyone can see it without having saved it in their 'watch-items folder': #320675837962 It closed without any bids, seller with (0) feedback and a fantastic fraud to back it up. If anyone can't access this item-# reference, ask me to forward you the initial page. -Richard Montgomery goldierocks - Original Message - From: Stuart McDaniel actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com To: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: brmeteori...@yahoo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Response to fraudulent Ebay listing usingBlaine's name Shame on them!! Do you have a link we can see?? Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society Member - KCA, KBCA, CDUSA -Original Message- From: Michael Gilmer Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 8:18 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: brmeteori...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Response to fraudulent Ebay listing using Blaine's name Blaine - no good deed goes unpunished, even in the meteorite world. Maybe you should limit your analysis service to people you know or people who are members of the meteorite community in good standing. Best regards, MikeG -- -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 3/30/11, impact...@aol.com impact...@aol.com wrote: Hello Everybody, A few days ago Richard Montgomery brought to my attention that someone was selling a meteorite on Ebay using Blaine Reed's name. I forwarded the information to Blaine, and here is his response, below. Thank you Richard. And please do let us know if you all see any other similar problems on Ebay. Thank you. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com President of IMCA www.IMCA.cc In a message dated 03/30/11 15:20:11 Mountain Daylight Time, brmeteori...@yahoo.com writes: Hi everybody, I just got home from another long trip to find people asking me about this fraudulent E-Bay listing using my name. I did indeed do analysis work on three different pieces of the same stuff for these people at the Tucson show. The results were given, as shown, as simply written on the back of my card. HOWEVER, these jerks ADDED the Ni next to the Fe to what I had written and claimed that the number represented the combination of Fe and Ni. There was NO nickel what so ever in any of the three samples. I told them several times point blank that they DO NOT HAVE A METEORITE. What they had was a quite titanium rich magnetite. I also told them (as a consolation of sorts) that, if there was enough of this stuff where they found it, they may have the makings of a titanium mine. I guess this is a serious blow to my model of offering analysis of specimens for the public. It seems that there is no way I can stop these delusional i diots from misrepresenting or outright falsifying the data I give them (as these people did). I may have to reconsider my plans for offering this service (or how I handle delivering the data at the very least). I want to ask people out there to keep an eye out for these jokers offering this stuff again and let me know if they do (brmeteori...@yahoo.com). I have tried to file a complaint with E-Bbay on this listing, but was only given 100 characters (about a dozen words) to describe my problem/ issue with the listing! No way I can explain to the don't give a damn people at Ebay in that little space. I'll try again none the less if someone lets me know about a similar listing while it is still active. Thanks for your help and understanding (that i would never give the thumbs up to something so obviously bogus). Blaine Reed --- On Wed, 3/30/11, Impactika impact...@aol.com wrote: From: Impactika impact...@aol.com Subject: Fwd: goldierocks thought you might like this item on eBay To: brmeteori...@yahoo.com Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 2:59 PM In a message dated 03/27/11 09:21:50 Mountain Daylight Time, mem...@ebay.com writes: _http://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11030.m44.l1120/7_ (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11030.m44.l1120/7) ? euid=0bf5bfa72dfb441f956db39faab6a6c2loc=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2Fe BayISAPI.dll%3FViewItem%26%26item%3D320675837962%26ssPageName%3DADME%3AB%3AE F%3AUS%3A1120 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
[meteorite-list] MESSENGER Sends Back First Image of Mercury from Orbit
Ron and Listers Great post Ron and I think I see NWA 2999 :) Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html [meteorite-list] MESSENGER Sends Back First Image of Mercury from OrbitRon Baalke baalke at zagami.jpl.nasa.gov Wed Mar 30 13:40:43 EDT 2011 Previous message: [meteorite-list] Color of OC's by Staining or by Trace Elements Next message: [meteorite-list] MESSENGER Sends Back First Image of Mercury from Orbit Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/news_room/details.php?id=165 MESSENGER Mission News March 29, 2011 MESSENGER Sends Back First Image of Mercury from Orbit MESSENGER has delivered its first image http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/gallery/sciencePhotos/image.php?gallery_id=2image_id=432 since entering orbit about Mercury on March 17. It was taken today at 5:20 am EDT by the Mercury Dual Imaging System as the spacecraft sailed high above Mercury's south pole, and provides a glimpse of portions of Mercury's surface not previously seen by spacecraft. The image was acquired as part of the orbital commissioning phase of the MESSENGER mission. Continuous global mapping of Mercury will begin on April 4. The entire MESSENGER team is thrilled that spacecraft and instrument checkout has been proceeding according to plan, says MESSENGER Principal Investigator Sean Solomon, of the Carnegie Institution of Washington. The first images from orbit and the first measurements from MESSENGER's other payload instruments are only the opening trickle of the flood of new information that we can expect over the coming year. The orbital exploration of the Solar System's innermost planet has begun. Several other images will be available Wednesday, March 30, in conjunction with a media teleconference at 2 p.m. EDT to discuss the initial orbital images taken from the first spacecraft to orbit Mercury. Media teleconference participants are: -- Sean Solomon, MESSENGER principal investigator, Carnegie Institution of Washington -- Eric Finnegan, MESSENGER mission systems engineer, Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory, Laurel. Md. To participate in the teleconference, reporters must contact Dwayne Brown at dwayne.c.brown at nasa.gov or 202-358-1726 for dial-in instructions. During the teleconference, MESSENGER information and images will be available at http://www.nasa.gov/messenger and http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/news_room/presscon8.html. Audio of the teleconference will be streamed live on NASA's website at: http://www.nasa.gov/newsaudio. /MESSENGER (MErcury Surface, Space ENvironment, GEochemistry, and Ranging) is a NASA-sponsored scientific investigation of the planet Mercury and the first space mission designed to orbit the planet closest to the Sun. The MESSENGER spacecraft launched on August 3, 2004, and entered orbit about Mercury on March 17, 2011 (March 18, 2011 UTC), to begin a yearlong study of its target planet. Dr. Sean C. Solomon, of the Carnegie Institution of Washington, leads the mission as Principal Investigator. The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory built and operates the MESSENGER spacecraft and manages this Discovery-class mission for NASA. Previous message: [meteorite-list] Color of OC's by Staining or by Trace Elements Next message: [meteorite-list] MESSENGER Sends Back First Image of Mercury from Orbit Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the Meteorite-list mailing list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
