Re: [meteorite-list] Jeff Kuyken Finds his First Meteorite
Thanks to everyone for the congrats both on and off list. Much appreciated. I'll be doing a full write-up with pics in the next couple of months. This is a great post Brian. I actually found the antler in the first couple of days. Then Mike mentioned that he had found the same one the year before. And now you too! We were saying how it's now become the official Whitecourt community antler! ;-) I actually took a pic of the find too: http://www.meteorites.com.au/images/whitecourt-antler.jpg Ohhh... it's still there ready for the next hunters. Good thing too... quarantine/customs checked my bags with dogs when I came back to Aus! :-O Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: bmoore bmo...@bigbangwidth.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 11:59 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Jeff Kuyken Finds his First Meteorite Jeff, if you are still up there at Whitecourt there is a deer antler (souvenir?) to go along with your first find. @ lat N 53 deg 59.917 min, long W 115 deg 35.614 min. Happy hunting. -Brian Moore __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Taking a look inside a chondrite meteorite
My favorite way of windowing potential meteorites is with a bench grinder. Using the side of the wheel will leave a nice flat and smooth surface in about a second. To bad they don't make them to run off a 12 volt automotive outlet for use in the field. Cheers, Jim K In a message dated 5/29/2011 7:50:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, j...@cabassi.net writes: G'Day Chris, Jim, Count and List Yes, I find the dremel diamond wheel very good http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=ensugexp=ldymlsxhr=tq=dreme l+diamondcp=9pq=dremel+cut+off+wheelrlz=1R2GGLT_enUS329bav=on.2,or.r _gc.r_pw.biw=1004bih=599wrapid=tlif130671641171810um=1ie=UTF-8tbm= shopcid=10807187833479235161sa=Xei=_ujiTb2mMu3ciAKvp9mdBgsqi=2ved=0 CF8Q8gIwAQ# Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Jim Wooddell Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 4:49 PM To: cspr...@islandnet.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Taking a look inside a chondrite meteorite Hello Chris, I use a dremel diamond wheel when I am in the field from my truck and it works perfect. Just have to be careful on the amount of pressure applied. You can see me using them in my YouTube videosfrom my website http://desertsunburn.no-ip.org . Check them out if you have time! Kind Regards, Jim Wooddell On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Chris Spratt cspr...@islandnet.com wrote: Hi Listers: I have a couple of dozen NWA chondrite all unnamed and unclassified. I haven't a lapidary saw or power grinder so I'm trying to file an edge off each meteorite with a hand file to see what I may have. Tried various files for metal that my late Dad left me in his old tool kit. Most don't make a mark. Can anyone recommend what type of file to use. Would a Dremel grinding stone work? If so which one? Thanks, Chris. Spratt Victoria, BC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Taking a look inside a chondrite meteorite
That's a great tip, Jim. I never thought to use the side of one of the wheels on my bench grinder when that was all I owned. Mine bench grinder does have side guards that would have to be unscrewed and dismounted. Now I have a four station wet/dry cabachon maker that has a six inch flat polishing wheel on one side that you can stick different diamond grit discs on. I like it because there's no mandrel in the middle and it's easy to change the discs. Adam Hupe' turned me on to these neat diamond grit hard sponge sanding blocks used in finishing granite counter tops and auto body work. You can buy a set of different grits from 80 to 2000 on E-Bay for around $100.00 and they can be used wet, or dry. You can also buy an inexpensive portable (about the size of a shoe box) DC to AC Inverter to clip to your vehicle battery to power your grinder, or Dremel in the field. Must run the engine to get the amps neeeded. Best regards to all, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: jimsk...@aol.com Sent: May 30, 2011 4:27 AM To: j...@cabassi.net, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Taking a look inside a chondrite meteorite My favorite way of windowing potential meteorites is with a bench grinder. Using the side of the wheel will leave a nice flat and smooth surface in about a second. To bad they don't make them to run off a 12 volt automotive outlet for use in the field. Cheers, Jim K In a message dated 5/29/2011 7:50:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, j...@cabassi.net writes: G'Day Chris, Jim, Count and List Yes, I find the dremel diamond wheel very good http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=ensugexp=ldymlsxhr=tq=dreme l+diamondcp=9pq=dremel+cut+off+wheelrlz=1R2GGLT_enUS329bav=on.2,or.r _gc.r_pw.biw=1004bih=599wrapid=tlif130671641171810um=1ie=UTF-8tbm= shopcid=10807187833479235161sa=Xei=_ujiTb2mMu3ciAKvp9mdBgsqi=2ved=0 CF8Q8gIwAQ# Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Jim Wooddell Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 4:49 PM To: cspr...@islandnet.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Taking a look inside a chondrite meteorite Hello Chris, I use a dremel diamond wheel when I am in the field from my truck and it works perfect. Just have to be careful on the amount of pressure applied. You can see me using them in my YouTube videosfrom my website http://desertsunburn.no-ip.org . Check them out if you have time! Kind Regards, Jim Wooddell On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Chris Spratt cspr...@islandnet.com wrote: Hi Listers: I have a couple of dozen NWA chondrite all unnamed and unclassified. I haven't a lapidary saw or power grinder so I'm trying to file an edge off each meteorite with a hand file to see what I may have. Tried various files for metal that my late Dad left me in his old tool kit. Most don't make a mark. Can anyone recommend what type of file to use. Would a Dremel grinding stone work? If so which one? Thanks, Chris. Spratt Victoria, BC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Re: [meteorite-list] Moroccan business meteorite is suffering
Prices have gone way to high. I have not returned to morocco for 3 years because prices are now higher than I can sell for. Better to buy from farmers here or hunt myself. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On May 29, 2011, at 6:21 PM, Said Haddany mfcollec...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi list, No doubt that everybody has recently noticed that no much materail shwoing up from morocco and the prices are going up too high,do you know why?this is because of some new brokers' behavors.. more details are coming soon Thank you for understanding Said Haddany __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Moroccan business meteorite is suffering
Dear All, yes prices are too high now... And worst is that Maroccan dealers ask much more than US or European dealers can sell here. Interesting will be to see this year prices in Ensisheim. All the best Tomek Jakubowski IMCA #2321 Dnia 30-05-2011 o godz. 3:43 meteoriteguy.com napisał(a): Prices have gone way to high. I have not returned to morocco for 3 years because prices are now higher than I can sell for. Better to buy from farmers here or hunt myself. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On May 29, 2011, at 6:21 PM, Said Haddany mfcollec...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi list, No doubt that everybody has recently noticed that no much materail shwoing up from morocco and the prices are going up too high,do you know why?this is because of some new brokers' behavors.. more details are coming soon Thank you for understanding Said Haddany __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Moroccan business meteorite is suffering
Yes, most Moroccan dealers fail to realize the world economy is in the worst downturn since the great depression and barely showing signs of recovery. For example, they are stilling asking $10.00/gram for Eucrites when only $5.00/gram can be realized on eBay, even after suffering a cutting loss. In the end, they will find out how tough a market it really is. No amount of hype or press will bring the prices up on the open market. It is a supply and demand issue. Maybe once the stockpiles which are dwindling are exhausted the prices will go back up. Until then, I will be purchasing older U.S. finds which are priced most reasonably at a few dollars per gram. Happy Hunting, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Antlers (Was: Jeff Kuyken Finds his First Meteorite) - Humor Alert + Off Topic
Aussie Jeff wrote: I actually found the antler in the first couple of days. Then Mike mentioned that he had found the same one the year before. Absolutely off-topic but, nevertheless, I'm sure you'll like it ;-)) Cheers from Germany Today's temps: 93F Bernd John Steinbeck: Travels with Charley There are customs, attitudes, myths and directions and changes that seem to be part of the structure of America. And I propose to discuss them as they were first thrust on my attention. While these discussions go on you are to imagine me bowling along on some little road or pulled up behind a bridge, or cooking a big pot of lima beans and salt pork. And the first of these has to do with hunting. I could not have escaped hunting if I had wanted, for open seasons spangle the autumn. We have inherited many attitudes from our recent ancestors, who wrestled this continent as Jacob wrestled the angel, and the pioneers won. From them we take a belief that every American is a natural born hunter. And every fall a great number of men set out to prove that without talent, training, knowledge, or practice they are dead shots with rifle or shotgun. The results are horrid. [. . .] It isnt hunger that drives millions of armed American males to forests and hills every autumn, as the high incidence of heart failure among the hunters will prove. Somehow the hunting process has to do with masculinity, but I don't quite know how. I know there are any number of good and efficient hunters who know what they are doing; but many more are overweight gentlemen, primed with whisky and armed with high-powered rifles. They shoot at anything that moves or looks as though it might, and their success in killing one another may well prevent a population explosion. If the casualties were limited to their own kind there would be no problem, but the slaughter of cows, pigs, farmers, dogs, and highway signs makes autumn a dangerous seasons in which to travel. A farmer in upper New York State painted the word cow in big black letters on both sides of his white bossy but the hunters shot it anyway. In Wisconsin, as I was driving through, a hunter shot his own guide between the shoulder blades. [. . .] With the rolling barrage going on in Maine, of course I was afraid for myself. Four automobiles were hit on opening day, but mainly I was afraid for Charley. I know that a poodle looks very like a buck deer to one of these hunters, and I had to find some way of protecting him. In Rocinante there was a box of red Kleenex that someone had given me as a present. I wrapped Charley's tail in red Kleenex and fastened it with rubber bands. Every morning I renewed his flag, and he wore it all the way west while bullets whined and whistled around us. This was not intended to be funny. The radios warned against carrying a white handkerchief. Too many hunters seeing a flash of white have taken it for the tail of a running deer and cured a head cold with a single shot. But this legacy of the frontiersman is not a new thing. When I was a child on the ranch near Salinas, California, we had a Chinese cook who regularly made a modest good thing of it. On a ridge not far away, a sycamore log lay on its side supported by two of its broken branches. Lees attention was drawn to this speckled fawn-colored chunk of wood by the bullet holes in it. He nailed a pair of horns to it and then retired to his cabin until deer season was over. Then he harvested the lead from the old tree trunk. Some seasons he got fifty or sixty pounds of it. It wasnt a fortune but it was wages. After a couple of years, when the tree was completely shot away, Lee replaced it with four gunny sacks of sand and the same antlers. Then it was even easier to harvest his crop. If he had put out fifty of them it would have been a fortune, but Lee was a humble man who didnt care for mass production. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Moroccan business meteorite is suffering
Hi all, the issue about the shortness of the material and also the high prices of meteorites in morocco has nothing to do with the world economy.. this is becuase even there was bad economy there were some meteorites that were sold at a very good price,,,This is not our issue .. the problem we try to talk about is the reasons why prices of meteorites are going up recently in Morocco.. Not the Moroccan dealers who are the responsible of this,but the prices are way too high from the native suppliers who are Algerians or few Moroccan nomads ...US AND European and Moroccan dealers are complaining about this not only US or European dealers because we,moroccans,buy stones also from other people..We are all the same like you all in the market... Lets go back to the reasons why the prices are too high,, In Morocco we have some brokers who,have nothing to do with this business,jumped on the market and destroying the proper manner of buying and sellling ..They got on contact with some algerian via moroccan nomads and made a bad competition and they sometimes offered high prices to Algerian trying to overdominate the market and they make the suppliers or the finder keep dreaming with crazy prices .. cheers Said Haddany --- On Mon, 5/30/11, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Moroccan business meteorite is suffering To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, May 30, 2011, 12:00 PM Yes, most Moroccan dealers fail to realize the world economy is in the worst downturn since the great depression and barely showing signs of recovery. For example, they are stilling asking $10.00/gram for Eucrites when only $5.00/gram can be realized on eBay, even after suffering a cutting loss. In the end, they will find out how tough a market it really is. No amount of hype or press will bring the prices up on the open market. It is a supply and demand issue. Maybe once the stockpiles which are dwindling are exhausted the prices will go back up. Until then, I will be purchasing older U.S. finds which are priced most reasonably at a few dollars per gram. Happy Hunting, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Moroccan business meteorite is suffering
Hello Said and All, Typically when there is more competition, the prices are driven down. In this situation where prices are going up, I would suggest that this is another sign that supply is indeed drying up in the Sahara. The fact that the Algerian finders are going direct is not unlike Moroccan dealers going direct to collectors a few years ago, they simply want to larger piece of the pie and no longer want to go through the old fashioned Finder-Broker-Wholesaler-Retailer model that used to work. With technology advancing so much from the 'early days' of the Moroccan 'gold rush' some 15-20 years ago, it is a simple matter of getting online, post an ad on this List, Facebook or emailing people directly, everyone has some sort of device that allows them to 'connect' with buyers. I remember when I was amazed 12 years ago when I was on the border of Morocco and Algeria going from Berber tent to tent asking if any of the nomads had stones for sale -- the amazing part was that one of the nomads pulled a cell phone out from under his robe and made a call from way out in the middle of the desert! Turns out that countries like Morocco and others have had a far more advanced communication infrastructure compared to the US at the time. It was only a matter of time before the finders got 'connected' and grabbed their piece of that pie. The one aspect that Said was referring to that I do not like is that some of these newer 'brokers' make claims they own particular stones they offer around the world, where in fact as Said points out, they have ZERO financial risk involved. I suppose they are smarter than the rest of us old timers who still believe in the archaic 'cash-n-carry' mentality! Sounds like a new Market Trends article Capt. Blood! ;-) Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupé The Hupé Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com NaturesVault (eBay) AncientDiscoveries (eBay)(formerly 'NaturesVault') IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions, I have two accounts now: 1) NaturesVault - http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault 2) AncientDiscoveries (formerly 'NaturesVault') - http://shop.ebay.com/ancientdiscoveries/m.html?_dmd=1_ipg=50_sop=12_rdc=1 -Original Message- From: Said Haddany Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 6:12 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Moroccan business meteorite is suffering Hi all, the issue about the shortness of the material and also the high prices of meteorites in morocco has nothing to do with the world economy.. this is becuase even there was bad economy there were some meteorites that were sold at a very good price,,,This is not our issue .. the problem we try to talk about is the reasons why prices of meteorites are going up recently in Morocco.. Not the Moroccan dealers who are the responsible of this,but the prices are way too high from the native suppliers who are Algerians or few Moroccan nomads ...US AND European and Moroccan dealers are complaining about this not only US or European dealers because we,moroccans,buy stones also from other people..We are all the same like you all in the market... Lets go back to the reasons why the prices are too high,, In Morocco we have some brokers who,have nothing to do with this business,jumped on the market and destroying the proper manner of buying and sellling ..They got on contact with some algerian via moroccan nomads and made a bad competition and they sometimes offered high prices to Algerian trying to overdominate the market and they make the suppliers or the finder keep dreaming with crazy prices .. cheers Said Haddany --- On Mon, 5/30/11, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Moroccan business meteorite is suffering To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, May 30, 2011, 12:00 PM Yes, most Moroccan dealers fail to realize the world economy is in the worst downturn since the great depression and barely showing signs of recovery. For example, they are stilling asking $10.00/gram for Eucrites when only $5.00/gram can be realized on eBay, even after suffering a cutting loss. In the end, they will find out how tough a market it really is. No amount of hype or press will bring the prices up on the open market. It is a supply and demand issue. Maybe once the stockpiles which are dwindling are exhausted the prices will go back up. Until then, I will be purchasing older U.S. finds which are priced most reasonably at a few dollars per gram. Happy Hunting, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at
Re: [meteorite-list] Taking a look inside a chondrite meteorite
Hi Count! I have used the Dremel from the truck for a few years and it sure has come in handy. I have an inverter mounted in my truck that easily handles the Dremel and it also handles a coffee pot where I can make coffee or heat up water or whatever. The inverter is a solid investment in mobility. I have a green wheel on a Darex grinder at home and with the cost of savings (comparing to a diamond wheel, it does chondrites very good and you just have to square it up now and then. I can buty several of these for the price of one diamond wheel. I do have a horizontal Diamond lap but seldom ever use it. I normally end up finishing with wet/dry sand paper to about 1000 grit (in steps of course). I find it soothing doing this by hand. All toys are fun though, eh? Jim Wooddell On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 6:06 AM, Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net wrote: That's a great tip, Jim. I never thought to use the side of one of the wheels on my bench grinder when that was all I owned. Mine bench grinder does have side guards that would have to be unscrewed and dismounted. Now I have a four station wet/dry cabachon maker that has a six inch flat polishing wheel on one side that you can stick different diamond grit discs on. I like it because there's no mandrel in the middle and it's easy to change the discs. Adam Hupe' turned me on to these neat diamond grit hard sponge sanding blocks used in finishing granite counter tops and auto body work. You can buy a set of different grits from 80 to 2000 on E-Bay for around $100.00 and they can be used wet, or dry. You can also buy an inexpensive portable (about the size of a shoe box) DC to AC Inverter to clip to your vehicle battery to power your grinder, or Dremel in the field. Must run the engine to get the amps neeeded. Best regards to all, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: jimsk...@aol.com Sent: May 30, 2011 4:27 AM To: j...@cabassi.net, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Taking a look inside a chondrite meteorite My favorite way of windowing potential meteorites is with a bench grinder. Using the side of the wheel will leave a nice flat and smooth surface in about a second. To bad they don't make them to run off a 12 volt automotive outlet for use in the field. Cheers, Jim K In a message dated 5/29/2011 7:50:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, j...@cabassi.net writes: G'Day Chris, Jim, Count and List Yes, I find the dremel diamond wheel very good http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=ensugexp=ldymlsxhr=tq=dreme l+diamondcp=9pq=dremel+cut+off+wheelrlz=1R2GGLT_enUS329bav=on.2,or.r _gc.r_pw.biw=1004bih=599wrapid=tlif130671641171810um=1ie=UTF-8tbm= shopcid=10807187833479235161sa=Xei=_ujiTb2mMu3ciAKvp9mdBgsqi=2ved=0 CF8Q8gIwAQ# Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Jim Wooddell Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 4:49 PM To: cspr...@islandnet.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Taking a look inside a chondrite meteorite Hello Chris, I use a dremel diamond wheel when I am in the field from my truck and it works perfect. Just have to be careful on the amount of pressure applied. You can see me using them in my YouTube videosfrom my website http://desertsunburn.no-ip.org . Check them out if you have time! Kind Regards, Jim Wooddell On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Chris Spratt cspr...@islandnet.com wrote: Hi Listers: I have a couple of dozen NWA chondrite all unnamed and unclassified. I haven't a lapidary saw or power grinder so I'm trying to file an edge off each meteorite with a hand file to see what I may have. Tried various files for metal that my late Dad left me in his old tool kit. Most don't make a mark. Can anyone recommend what type of file to use. Would a Dremel grinding stone work? If so which one? Thanks, Chris. Spratt Victoria, BC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list
Re: [meteorite-list] Moroccan business meteorite is suffering
Greg, said, Adam , This is all very depressing news. It sounds to me like you are all right. I think Adam also pointed out in a recent post that the media. Specifically the NYT article along with a bunch of Scientist's from around the world have done a very good job of helping drive down the prices in the US of meteorites. One was even quoted as saying It's a black market. Well. when they own the information, they can bend it all they want (John Mayer). possession is not nine tenths of the law it's nine tenths of the problem (John Lennon) Now it sounds like we have Hedge fund types artificially inflating prices in Africa? What's next? Carl Greg Hupé gmh...@centurylink.net wrote: Hello Said and All, Typically when there is more competition, the prices are driven down. In this situation where prices are going up, I would suggest that this is another sign that supply is indeed drying up in the Sahara. The fact that the Algerian finders are going direct is not unlike Moroccan dealers going direct to collectors a few years ago, they simply want to larger piece of the pie and no longer want to go through the old fashioned Finder-Broker-Wholesaler-Retailer model that used to work. With technology advancing so much from the 'early days' of the Moroccan 'gold rush' some 15-20 years ago, it is a simple matter of getting online, post an ad on this List, Facebook or emailing people directly, everyone has some sort of device that allows them to 'connect' with buyers. I remember when I was amazed 12 years ago when I was on the border of Morocco and Algeria going from Berber tent to tent asking if any of the nomads had stones for sale -- the amazing part was that one of the nomads pulled a cell phone out from under his robe and made a call from way out in the middle of the desert! Turns out that countries like Morocco and others have had a far more advanced communication infrastructure compared to the US at the time. It was only a matter of time before the finders got 'connected' and grabbed their piece of that pie. The one aspect that Said was referring to that I do not like is that some of these newer 'brokers' make claims they own particular stones they offer around the world, where in fact as Said points out, they have ZERO financial risk involved. I suppose they are smarter than the rest of us old timers who still believe in the archaic 'cash-n-carry' mentality! Sounds like a new Market Trends article Capt. Blood! ;-) Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupé The Hupé Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com NaturesVault (eBay) AncientDiscoveries (eBay)(formerly 'NaturesVault') IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions, I have two accounts now: 1) NaturesVault - http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault 2) AncientDiscoveries (formerly 'NaturesVault') - http://shop.ebay.com/ancientdiscoveries/m.html?_dmd=1_ipg=50_sop=12_rdc=1 -Original Message- From: Said Haddany Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 6:12 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Moroccan business meteorite is suffering Hi all, the issue about the shortness of the material and also the high prices of meteorites in morocco has nothing to do with the world economy.. this is becuase even there was bad economy there were some meteorites that were sold at a very good price,,,This is not our issue .. the problem we try to talk about is the reasons why prices of meteorites are going up recently in Morocco.. Not the Moroccan dealers who are the responsible of this,but the prices are way too high from the native suppliers who are Algerians or few Moroccan nomads ...US AND European and Moroccan dealers are complaining about this not only US or European dealers because we,moroccans,buy stones also from other people..We are all the same like you all in the market... Lets go back to the reasons why the prices are too high,, In Morocco we have some brokers who,have nothing to do with this business,jumped on the market and destroying the proper manner of buying and sellling ..They got on contact with some algerian via moroccan nomads and made a bad competition and they sometimes offered high prices to Algerian trying to overdominate the market and they make the suppliers or the finder keep dreaming with crazy prices .. cheers Said Haddany --- On Mon, 5/30/11, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Moroccan business meteorite is suffering To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, May 30, 2011, 12:00 PM Yes, most Moroccan dealers fail to realize the world economy is in the worst downturn since the great depression and barely showing signs of recovery. For example, they are stilling asking $10.00/gram for Eucrites when only
Re: [meteorite-list] Moroccan business meteorite is suffering
As a non-dealer and just a casual observer of market trends...this may be a good spot to mention how the integrity of one of the meteorite-world's most trust-worthy members just went even furtherto the moon ...above any fathomable expectations. Remember when the recent discussion surrounding the iconic TFL-SMOW release of NWA5400 was pending O-tope analyses for potential pairings (welcome NWA6077!)... I was grandly shocked (an S5 for me) when he saluted those of us who intitially recognized the rarity of such a meteorite. (For fun, I'm not mentioning his name...but I bet a majority of you know to whom I refer...) Yes, the market is changing...yet I never expected it to land in my PObox. Here's to our passion! G., a Huge thanks (almost spelled it):) Richard Montgomery - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Moroccan business meteorite is suffering Yes, most Moroccan dealers fail to realize the world economy is in the worst downturn since the great depression and barely showing signs of recovery. For example, they are stilling asking $10.00/gram for Eucrites when only $5.00/gram can be realized on eBay, even after suffering a cutting loss. In the end, they will find out how tough a market it really is. No amount of hype or press will bring the prices up on the open market. It is a supply and demand issue. Maybe once the stockpiles which are dwindling are exhausted the prices will go back up. Until then, I will be purchasing older U.S. finds which are priced most reasonably at a few dollars per gram. Happy Hunting, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Moroccan business meteorite is suffering
Dear All, I suspect the reason the prices are higher is that supplies are drying up because of various conflicts (Political or Otherwise) affecting the ability to go find them. Border controls are tighter getting in/out, now affecting the movements of locals (Nomads/Berbers). For what it's worth, that's my take on it. Cheers David R Childs IMCA#5112 - Original Message - From: Tomasz Jakubowski illae...@wp.pl To: meteoriteguy.com m...@meteoriteguy.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Moroccan business meteorite is suffering Dear All, yes prices are too high now... And worst is that Maroccan dealers ask much more than US or European dealers can sell here. Interesting will be to see this year prices in Ensisheim. All the best Tomek Jakubowski IMCA #2321 Dnia 30-05-2011 o godz. 3:43 meteoriteguy.com napisał(a): Prices have gone way to high. I have not returned to morocco for 3 years because prices are now higher than I can sell for. Better to buy from farmers here or hunt myself. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On May 29, 2011, at 6:21 PM, Said Haddany mfcollec...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi list, No doubt that everybody has recently noticed that no much materail shwoing up from morocco and the prices are going up too high,do you know why?this is because of some new brokers' behavors.. more details are coming soon Thank you for understanding Said Haddany __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Moroccan business meteorite is suffering
G'Day List This is a very interesting subject. Some good information on both sides, as well as the unicorn in the middle. I hope we keep this on track and don't turn it into a blood fest. Sorry Michael, no pun intended ;-) Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 Dear All, I suspect the reason the prices are higher is that supplies are drying up because of various conflicts (Political or Otherwise) affecting the ability to go find them. Border controls are tighter getting in/out, now affecting the movements of locals (Nomads/Berbers). For what it's worth, that's my take on it. Cheers David R Childs IMCA#5112 - Original Message - From: Tomasz Jakubowski illae...@wp.pl To: meteoriteguy.com m...@meteoriteguy.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Moroccan business meteorite is suffering __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 29MAY2011 Two Events Updated post
Dear List, Since I broke the story shortly after the events there have been nearly 100 reports between the two events (~9:00 pm and 11:00pm). MBIQ Detects MA NY NH PA ME NC OH KY DC RI ONT TWO Bright Green Fireballs Meteor over NE United States 29MAY2011 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2011/05/mbiq-detects-ma-ny-nh-pa-me-ont-meteor.html Please take a look. I have added maps and updated the reports that I have received. Best Always, Dirk Ross...Tokyo 2011 Year of Green Meteors! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Taking a look inside a chondrite meteorite
These diamond hones are great and last a long time. I think Harbor Freight Tools ships to Canada. http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=hone Dennis Miller Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 13:08:43 -0700 From: cspr...@islandnet.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Taking a look inside a chondrite meteorite Hi Listers: I have a couple of dozen NWA chondrite all unnamed and unclassified. I haven't a lapidary saw or power grinder so I'm trying to file an edge off each meteorite with a hand file to see what I may have. Tried various files for metal that my late Dad left me in his old tool kit. Most don't make a mark. Can anyone recommend what type of file to use. Would a Dremel grinding stone work? If so which one? Thanks, Chris. Spratt Victoria, BC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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