[meteorite-list] Dentists and a Yaqui/Mayan meteorite mystery (was ...Tucson)

2012-01-21 Thread MexicoDoug

Hi Ed, On dentistes, Yaqui and a meteorite

Dentists in Nogales:
The dentists I mentioned all speak English and some even have US 
diplomas on the walls, although in the Mexican schools they probably 
get just as much if not more hands-on practice.  So don't be shy, 
though I thank you so kindly for the vote of confidence.  My Mother 
needed a root canal job about 5 years ago and  even though we could 
have gotten it done anywhere in the world, I chose to get it done in 
Mexico and the proof is in the absolutely perfect job this incredible 
dentist did and with a service that I have never seen elsewhere and her 
hands were as gentle as they come..


Back to the Yaqui and meteorites: An unsolved Sonoran Yaqui Valley 
Mystery


Here's a lead that would be a blast to read; from the book:
The Book of the Damned
by Charles Fort

In the Scientific American, Sept. 10, 1910, Charles F. Holder writes: 
Many years ago, a strange stone resembling a meteorite, fell into the 
Valley of the Yaqui, Mexico, and the sensational story went from one 
end to the other of the country that a stone bearing human inscriptions 
had descended to the earth. The bewildering observation here is Mr. 
Holder's assertion that this stone did fall. It seems to me that he 
must mean that it fell by dislodgment from a mountainside into a valley 
— but we shall see that it was such a marked stone that very unlikely 
would it have been unknown to dwellers in a valley, if it had been 
reposing upon a mountain side above them.  It may have been 
carelessness: intent may have been to say that a sensational storyof a 
strange stone said to have fallen, etc.


This stone was reported by Major Frederick Burnham, of the British 
Army. Later Major Burnham re-visited it, and Mr. Holder accompanied 
him, their purpos to decipher the inscriptions on it, if possible.


This stone was a brown, igneous rock, its longest axis about eight 
feet, and on the eastern face, which had an angle of about forty-five 
degrees, was the deep-cut inscription. Mr. Holder says that he 
recognized familiar Mayan symbols in the inscription.  His method was 
the usual method by which anything can be identified as anything 
else: that is to pick out whatever is agreeable and disregard the rest.


He says that he has demonstrated that most of the symbols are Mayan. 
One of our interme- diatist pseudo-principles is that any way of 
demonstrating anything is just as good a way of demonstrating anything 
else. By Mr. Holder's method we could demonstrate that we're Mayan — if 
that should be a source of pride to us. One of the characters upon this 
stone is a circle within a circle — similar character found by Mr. 
Holder in a Mayan manuscript.


There are two 6's. 6's can be found in Mayan manuscripts. A double 
scroll. There are dots and there are dashes.  Well, then, we, in turn, 
disregard the circle within a circle and the double scroll and 
emphasize that 6's occur in this book, and that dots are plentiful, and 
would be more if it were customary to use the small i for the first 
personal pronoun — that when it comes to dashes — that's demonstrated: 
we're Mayan.


I suppose the tendency is to damned feel that we're sneering at some 
valuable archaologic work, and that Mr. Holder did make a veritable 
identification. He writes: I submitted the photographs to the Field 
Museum and the Smithsonian and one or two others, and, to my surprise, 
the reply was that they could make nothing out of it. Our indefinite 
acceptance, by preponderance of three or four groups of museum-experts 
against one person is that a stone bearing inscriptions unassimilable 
with any known language upon this earth, is said to have fallen from 
the sky.


Kindest wishes
Doug


-Original Message-
From: E.P. Grondine epgrond...@yahoo.com
To: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com
Cc: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Fri, Jan 20, 2012 2:06 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson


Hi Doug -

I wouldn't try it without your wonderful personal help.
I don't know how to say more lidocaine in Spanish.

My guess as to where the Yaqui meteorites are is in their pockets or in 
their

houses.

You could just ask them, and unless you're too greedy or obsessed, 
they'd likely
tell you. The key is respect, and remembering that they have their own 
way of

looking at things, and valuing them.

E.P.




--- On Fri, 1/20/12, MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com wrote:


From: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson
To: epgrond...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Friday, January 20, 2012, 1:28 AM
Hi Ed, I'm sorry you can't make it to
Tucson, but if you don't have dental insurance, you'll
probably get a better work for half the price right across
the border from Tucson/Nogales and can make your trip
worthwhile.

Plus you might find some interesting stuff in Yaqui culture
if you look hard enough in that territory.  Really from
a meteorite hunting perspective 

[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2012-01-21 Thread valparint
Mundrabilla

http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp
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[meteorite-list] A 349 gram fully fusion crusted Tissint in the Carleton B. Moore Meteorite Collection at ASU.

2012-01-21 Thread ROCKS FROM SPACE
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/tissint-asu.html
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Re: [meteorite-list] A 349 gram fully fusion crusted Tissint in the Carleton B. Moore Meteorite Collection at ASU.

2012-01-21 Thread Darryl Pitt


Beautiful specimen and beautiful image.   Gorgeous. 


On Jan 21, 2012, at 8:46 AM, ROCKS FROM SPACE wrote:

 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/tissint-asu.html
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Re: [meteorite-list] ROCKS FROM SPACE | METEORITES AND METEORITE HUNTERS

2012-01-21 Thread wahlperry

Hi Michael ,Peter and Jason

Great pictures!

Sonny


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[meteorite-list] Oman Swiss/German Team Meteorite Hunting Video

2012-01-21 Thread drtanuki
Dear List,
http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2012/01/oman-meteorite-news-scientists-index.html
Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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[meteorite-list] AD: BENARES (a), Murray, 2008TC3, Ensisheim, NAHKLA, LA002, COLD BOKKEVELD, Sylacauga, L’Aigle, MOSS, High Possil more on eBay

2012-01-21 Thread Shawn Alan
Hello Listers, 

Thank you for taking a look at my post of meteorites 
I have for sale on eBay. Here is your chance to own some rare and historic 
meteorites. Please take a look and if you have any questions or OFFERS 
please email me and I’ll get back with you. Also if you are looking for 
bigger/smaller meteorites, let me know too. A meteorite is a meteorite, but 
a meteorite with history and a legacy, will always add aura to your 
meteorite collection and value. 


eBaystore 
http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html?

Featured meteorites of the week on eBay 

BENARES (a) 
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NEW CONCORD meteorite 1860-Horse killer-ASU collection! *Close to a gram*
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ALMAHATA SITTA meteorite 2008TC3 seen from space rare!
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MURRAY Ultra Rare CM2 Meteorite 70 Amino Acids Polyols SUGARS - ASU Collection. 
*FUSION CRUST*
http://www.ebay.com/itm/250975833863?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

NAKHLA Martian/Mars meteorite - 1911 Fall- SUPER RARE!
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MOSS meteorite Hammer Stone Fall CO3.6 VERY RARE Classification.*HAMMER STONE*
http://www.ebay.com/itm/250976428064?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

WESTON - 1st USA meteorite, fell in 1807- RARE!
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LOS ANGELES 002 Martian/Mars meteorite found in USA!
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COLD BOKKEVELD meteorite fall 1838 - Very Rare CM2 meteorite!
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MIGHEI CM2 meteorite - Type specimen - 1889 fall!
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HAMBLETON meteorite 2005 UK Pallasite - Rarely sold on eBay.
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Mauerkirchen meteorite 1st classified from Austria -  Fell in 1768!
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ENSISHEIM historic meteorite fall from 1492 - France - Very Rare!
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ALBARETO meteorite-1766 fall-1st from Italy-ULTRA RARE.
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OCHANSK historic meteorite fall from The Rob Elliott Collection.
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BILANGA-meteorite fall 1999-RARE Diogenite!
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KRASNOJARSK (Pallas Iron) Pallasite meteorite 1749!
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[meteorite-list] AD: Ultra rare *Bishopville*-*Weston*-*D'Orbigny*-*Appley Bridge*

2012-01-21 Thread Don Merchant
Hi List and happy weekend. I have 4 incredible auctions ending tomorrow 
evening (Sunday January 22-2012) consisting of some not often ever seen 
specimens on eBay.


http://www.ebay.com/sch/emflocater/m.html?item=160716575150sspagename=STRK%3AMESELX%3AIT_trksid=p3984.m1586.l2649_trksid=p4340.l2562

**Weston**...Utterly historical. You just don't hardly see this most 
historical meteorite available anymore except in little fragments. I have an 
incredible nice part slice! (Hammer)


**Bishopville**...can't remember last time I seen this available! Huge 0.405 
gm fragment! Beautiful Aubrite only one available.


**D'Oribigny**...an Angrite! -Angrites are some of the rarest types 
meteorites. Sweet fragment and only one I have.


**Appley Bridge**...One of the most difficult meteorite specimens to 
acquire!


Thank you for looking.
Sincerely
Don Merchant
Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders
www.ctreasurescwonders.com
IMCA #0960 


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[meteorite-list] Texas/Oklahoma Meteor 20JAN2012

2012-01-21 Thread drtanuki
Dear List,  Another Texas/Oklahoma fireball:
http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2012/01/breaking-news-texasoklahoma-meteor.html

Dirk Ross...Tokyo

http://thelatestworldwidemeteorreports.blogspot.com/
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[meteorite-list] AD - Crooked Creek Crater, Aldama, Forestburg, Millbillillie, Mount Egerton, Norton County, Wagon Mound, Gao, Zag, more.

2012-01-21 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi Friends and Collectors,

I just listed a big batch of new meteorites.  Some of these are brand
new and have never been offered before.  Some of these are fresh stock
of specimens that were sold out.

As always, use coupon code metlist at checkout for 20% off your purchase.  :)

New Offerings -


Crooked Creek Crater impact breccia (polished slice, 52g) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/crooked-creek-impact-breccia--rare-missouri-impact-structure-52g

Millbillillie (eucrite fall, micromounts) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/millbillillie--vestan-eucrite-fall-from-australia--micromounts

Wagon Mound (L6 find, micromounts) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/wagon-mound--new-mexico-heirloom-meteorite-micromounts

Mount Egerton (aubrite find, micromounts) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/mount-egerton--anomalous-aubrite-from-australia-micromounts

Forestburg(a) (L4 find, partslice) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/forestburga-classic-texas-farm-l4-find-micromounts-1

Forestburg(a) (L4 find, micromounts) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/forestburga-classic-texas-farm-l4-find-micromounts

Aldama(b) (H5 find, micromounts) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/aldamab-mexico-h5-meteorite-low-tkw-micromounts


New pieces of these meteorite micromounts -

Norton County (aubrite fall, micros) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/norton-county--historic-witnessed-fall-aubrite-micros

Gao Guenie (H5 chondrite fall, micros) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/gao-guenie--h5-hammer-fall-from-1960-burkina-faso-micromount

Zag (H3-6 chondrite fall, micros) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/zag-h3-6-transitional-chondrite-meteorite-witnessed-fall

La Criolla (L6 chondrite fall, micros) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/la-criolla-l6-chondrite-witnessed-fall-from-argentina-1985

Koltsovo (H4 chondrite find, micros) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/koltsovo-russian-mushroom-hunter-h4-meteorite-2004-micromount


Mars Tissint (or Tata) Shergottite Meteorite -

Tissint Martian meteorite riker box display
-http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/mars-rock-retro-art-martian-meteorite-display-tata-shergottite

Tissint Mars meteorite micromount -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/mars-rock-martian-meteorite-display-tata-shergottite


See all of the newest offerings here -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/products/brand-new

Thanks for looking!

MikeG

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Re: [meteorite-list] Promising sites around Sedona Arizona?

2012-01-21 Thread Guenther
After a couple of weeks on vacation in beautiful Sedona Arizona I had the
opportunity to spend some time meteorite hunting. I have a total of about 20
hours in hunting here. After nearly accepting defeat on my last day here,
and after finding lots of bullets, shell casings and other garbage, I hope
it's the real thing. 

Below are a few snapshots. I found it in a pasture a couple of miles south
of the Village of Oak Creek. My metal detector screeched for it and its
extremely attracted to my magnet. Any comments are welcome. If it's the real
thing, this will be my second find. The first one was just over a year ago
in northern Nevada.

If all goes as planned, I plan to be at the Tucson show so I'll bring it
with me to hopefully get some personal comments.

http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/Sedona1.JPG
http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/Sedona2.JPG
http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/Sedona3.JPG
http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/Sedona4.JPG
http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/Sedona5.JPG

Thanks in advance for your comments.

Abe Guenther

-Original Message-
From: Kashuba [mailto:mary.kash...@verizon.net] 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 9:46 PM
To: 'Guenther'
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Promising sites around Sedona Arizona?

Abe,

Tucson will be excellent late in the month (wink).

- John

John Kashuba
Ontario, California

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Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 4:48 PM
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Promising sites around Sedona Arizona?

Hi all,

I am planning a 2 week vacation to Sedona Arizona in January and I was
wondering if anyone would be willing to share some leads on prospective
hunting sites in the area.

Thanks,

Abe Guenther

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[meteorite-list] Studying the science of space junk

2012-01-21 Thread Paul H.
Studying the science of space junk by Eryn Brown
Los Angeles Times, January 22, 2012, 
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-space-junk-20120122,0,5399306,full.story
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-space-junk-20120122,0,819657.story

Space debris cluttering up orbit by Penelope Debelle 
Adelaide  Now, January 22, 2012
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/ipad/space-debris-cluttering-up-orbit/story-fn6bqpju-1226249814821

Best wishes,

Paul H.



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Re: [meteorite-list] Promising sites around Sedona Arizona?

2012-01-21 Thread Ruben Garcia
Too angular, it's man made...sorry

On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 8:52 PM, Guenther abe.guent...@mnsi.net wrote:
 After a couple of weeks on vacation in beautiful Sedona Arizona I had the
 opportunity to spend some time meteorite hunting. I have a total of about 20
 hours in hunting here. After nearly accepting defeat on my last day here,
 and after finding lots of bullets, shell casings and other garbage, I hope
 it's the real thing.

 Below are a few snapshots. I found it in a pasture a couple of miles south
 of the Village of Oak Creek. My metal detector screeched for it and its
 extremely attracted to my magnet. Any comments are welcome. If it's the real
 thing, this will be my second find. The first one was just over a year ago
 in northern Nevada.

 If all goes as planned, I plan to be at the Tucson show so I'll bring it
 with me to hopefully get some personal comments.

 http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/Sedona1.JPG
 http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/Sedona2.JPG
 http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/Sedona3.JPG
 http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/Sedona4.JPG
 http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/Sedona5.JPG

 Thanks in advance for your comments.

 Abe Guenther

 -Original Message-
 From: Kashuba [mailto:mary.kash...@verizon.net]
 Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 9:46 PM
 To: 'Guenther'
 Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Promising sites around Sedona Arizona?

 Abe,

 Tucson will be excellent late in the month (wink).

 - John

 John Kashuba
 Ontario, California

 -Original Message-
 From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
 [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Guenther
 Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 4:48 PM
 To: 'Meteorite Mailing List'
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Promising sites around Sedona Arizona?

 Hi all,

 I am planning a 2 week vacation to Sedona Arizona in January and I was
 wondering if anyone would be willing to share some leads on prospective
 hunting sites in the area.

 Thanks,

 Abe Guenther

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