[meteorite-list] AD-ebay auctions ending Sat, Apr 20
Aloha listoids, Big Kahuna has meteorites in auctions on ebay that end tomorrow, Saturday, April 20, starting at 8:00am Pacific / 11:00am Eastern / 4:00pm London / 6:00pm Helsinki / 11:00pm Singapore. FREE Worldwide shipping on select meteorites. http://www.ebay.com/sch/fujmon/m.html Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites Inc. PO Box 4175, Hilo, HI 96720 (808) 640-9161 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://www.ebay.com/sch/fujmon/m.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh!
So Adam, You've been on this down rap for years now. I don't understand why you mention native american artifact busts in the same context as meteorites. That don't help none. I think I understand that you fear the two might be intentionally confused but I've been told so often that I don't think so well that I'm not sure. Perhaps a bead or an ornament fashioned from a meteorite, plundered and lost by an incompetent "archaeologist" of bygone days, taken from an native american burial might cause confusion. Did that happen? Should the Smith make amends? Have they ever made full amends for anything they have done? Will they continue their Victorian policy? Is there a Hell? Will it freeze over... Will that confusion persist? Will endless sites get bulldozed because amateurs will never get sanctioned? Curator to Bonan the novice employee, "What is best Bonehead?" Bone says: "To see the non-tourists driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the collectors!" Yeah, the bureaucrats run wild, especially when the red money flag is waved by the media "stars". Wild as slugs in the garden. I hear a lot about the "black market" and it's always directed towards the collector. How many BLM employees are tracking hunters and cashing in? How many collectors are cooperating? When will we all get paid for saying nothing so often? --- > Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 09:08:23 -0700 > From: raremeteori...@yahoo.com > To: meteoritem...@gmail.com > CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh! > > > > Florida Artifact Bust: > http://ens-newswire.com/2013/02/28/florida-busts-artifact-thieves-who-damaged-lands-waters/ > > http://www.gainesville.com/article/20130227/wire/130229559 > > Utah Artifact Busts: > http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=6771105 > > Unless you want a 10-year jail sentence here in the U.S., I would avoid > picking up anything found on public land. Meteorites and cultural property > (used to mean artifacts, antiquities or relics) are now interchangeable terms > thanks to > Douglass Schmidt and recent media! > > Adam > __ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: BARWELL Meteorite for sale from original finder + documents - well worth a look
Hi List Presented is a very rare opportunity to obtain two exceptionally well preserved pieces of the historic British BARWELL meteorite (fell on Christmas Eve, 1965). What makes this even more special is that these pieces have been in the hands of the finder (a former Keeper of Geology at the Leicester Museum) for over 47 years! The pieces therefore come with a story and documentation. Well worth a look, even if not buying: http://www.tektiteshop.co.uk/ I have set up this webpage for a friend of a friend and you will be dealing directly with the lady who found the specimens. You can direct any enquires or offers directly to Jean Ferguson (ferguson814 'at' btinternet 'dot' com) - please don't reply to list or me. She is very open to serious offers, but will obviously wait a short while to consider her options. She is motivated to sell so please do not hesitate in putting in an offer as this valuable material is difficult to price - I'm pretty certain that another such offering is unlikely to appear any time soon! Regards, Aubrey Whymark on behalf of Jean Ferguson __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Looking for a Real Name of eBay Seller
Hi List. I am hoping someone out there can help me. I am looking for the persons real name that sold meteorites in 2001-2002 on eBay. All I have to go on is an eBay name. I know a few of you may have bought or sold to him/her The eBay name of this person is "meteorgort" and some of the names that sold to him on eBay are: (meteorite-collector) (newforwu) (meteorite-hunter) (mr-meteorite) (branchmeteorites) If any of you can get on eBay and search the name "meteorgort" then check "meteorgort" feedback until you see your eBay name and feedback left. Maybe a PayPal transaction may have this person's real name. He/She has done nothing wrong, I just need this person's real name not the eBay name for my records of a meteorite I purchased from him/her in 2002. He/she would only accept check or money order so I have nothing in PayPal, but if he/she bought from any of you and he/she paid you via PayPal that information is on record with your PayPal transactions. Thank you. Sincerely Don Merchant Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders www.ctreasurescwonders.com IMCA #0960 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD
List- Please take a look at my auctions ending soon. Many small Imilchil listed that can be picked up at good prices. A nice etched Imilchil with schreibersite, an etched Taza, and some small Taza beans are among some of the items listed. Thanks for looking and reading my first post! http://www.ebay.com/sch/ajmetcltr/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p3686 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ugandan sues U.S. over meteorite
Hello Jim, I thought it was called "Progressive Agenda"? --- Jodie Friday, April 19, 2013, 1:31:16 PM, you wrote: > Actually, we do have a term for American scams. It's called Wall Street. > Jim Strope > 421 4th Street > Glen Dale, WV. 26038 > Sent from my iPad > On Apr 19, 2013, at 11:20 AM, Michael Farmer wrote: >> What are you saying? Yes, except we don't really have a term for "american" >> scams other than scams, but Nigeria is the scam capital of the world, pretty >> much all the country is known for now. >> Everyone with a pulse and an electronic device has been victim of "Nigerian" >> scams. >> My comment was that this scam is so crazy, so over the top, demanding >> billions to trillions of dollars, it can only be described as "Nigerian":) >> Michael Farmer >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Apr 19, 2013, at 8:15 AM, Darryl Pitt wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> If the roles of the players here were reassigned different >>> nationalities—such that the complainant were American—would you be railing >>> about this being..."an American scam of some sort"? >>> >>> >>> >>> On Apr 18, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Michael Farmer wrote: >>> One can not just walk up and "give" a meteorite to the US embassy. None of this story makes any sense. Furthermore unless he has a receipt, he would have nothing to file a claim. He also would have some trouble since that was more than 20 years ago! Like I said, Nigerian scam of some sort. Funny though. I'll sell him a nice Mbale for only a few million and call it a day. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Apr 18, 2013, at 5:56 PM, "Galactic Stone & Ironworks" wrote: > Hi List, > > Let's make assumptions, shall we? > > Assume the man did give a Mbale meteorite to the US Embassy. > > Assume the Mbale stone in question is a large, "museum-class" > individual with fresh crust, regmaglypts, and it weighs 2 kilos. > > Assume the meteorite was a "loaner" and the giver had the expectation > or right to get it back at some point in the future. > > Even with all of those assumptions, the stone is worth, at most, a > couple thousand dollars - tops, under the best of circumstances. > > If money is what the guy is after and he wants the fair market value, > give him a new iPhone and a $200 iTunes gift card, and call it even. > > Best regards, > > MikeG > > -- > - > Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com > Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone > Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone > Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone > RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 > - > > > > On 4/18/13, Dan Miller wrote: >> I like the line where it says the value of the cargo or meteorite is >> worth billions if not trillions of dollars >> On Apr 18, 2013 1:38 PM, "Galactic Stone & Ironworks" < >> meteoritem...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Billions or trillions of dollars for a chunk of Mbale? >>> >>> Somebody is smoking something. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> MikeG >>> -- >>> - >>> Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com >>> Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone >>> Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone >>> Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone >>> RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 >>> - >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4/18/13, Tom Randall wrote: http://bit.ly/12qrXT9 Regards! Tom __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> __ >>> >>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/li
Re: [meteorite-list] Mbale AD / Ugandan sues U.S. over meteorite
So you're saying a half-million a gram is too much for Mbale? All sales of Mbale are hereby suspendedyada yada yada! Phil Whitmer Joshua Tree Earth & Space Museum *** Wow... a 5kg piece, worth "billions or trillions"? Good grief! Well then, I'll offer up some nice Mbale slices, before the prices skyrocket! ;^) I recently came across a nice Mbale L5/6 stone and have had some very nice slices taken off one end. One face was broken, so they have about a 60% crusted edge. Some excellent shock veins are prominent throughout each of the slices. Average weight is around 5 grams and they measure about 35x18x2.5mm. I took these with me to Tucson and sent several home with very happy buyers, but I have a few left, so I'll offer them now. Let me know if you're interested and I'll send you some photos. I really like the story behind this witnessed fall and think these slices are really sweet. The stone was featured on the January 10 MPOD. Thank you for your consideration. Linton *** TKW 150kg. Observed fall: 1992 August 14, Mbale, Uganda. The fall occurred in a heavily populated area in and around the city of Mbale. A loud explosion was heard which persisted for some time as a rumbling noise. For about two minutes a grayish-white smoke trail was seen. A meteorite shower fell over an area of about 3 x 7 km. The stones hit several buildings, and a boy was harmlessly hit in the head with a small 3 gm stone which had been slowed down considerably by its passage through a canopy of banana leaves (making this fall, along with Sylacauga, one of only two verifiable incidents of a meteorite striking a human being). The Ugandan military and other citizens took it upon themselves to break many of the stones, grind up the material into a fine powder and drink it with liquid, as it was assumed that their god had sent a cure for AIDS to them from the skies. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ugandan sues U.S. over meteorite
Actually, we do have a term for American scams. It's called Wall Street. Jim Strope 421 4th Street Glen Dale, WV. 26038 Sent from my iPad On Apr 19, 2013, at 11:20 AM, Michael Farmer wrote: > What are you saying? Yes, except we don't really have a term for "american" > scams other than scams, but Nigeria is the scam capital of the world, pretty > much all the country is known for now. > Everyone with a pulse and an electronic device has been victim of "Nigerian" > scams. > My comment was that this scam is so crazy, so over the top, demanding > billions to trillions of dollars, it can only be described as "Nigerian":) > Michael Farmer > > Sent from my iPad > > On Apr 19, 2013, at 8:15 AM, Darryl Pitt wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> >> If the roles of the players here were reassigned different >> nationalities—such that the complainant were American—would you be railing >> about this being..."an American scam of some sort"? >> >> >> >> On Apr 18, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Michael Farmer wrote: >> >>> One can not just walk up and "give" a meteorite to the US embassy. None of >>> this story makes any sense. Furthermore unless he has a receipt, he would >>> have nothing to file a claim. He also would have some trouble since that >>> was more than 20 years ago! >>> Like I said, Nigerian scam of some sort. >>> Funny though. >>> I'll sell him a nice Mbale for only a few million and call it a day. >>> Michael Farmer >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Apr 18, 2013, at 5:56 PM, "Galactic Stone & Ironworks" >>> wrote: >>> Hi List, Let's make assumptions, shall we? Assume the man did give a Mbale meteorite to the US Embassy. Assume the Mbale stone in question is a large, "museum-class" individual with fresh crust, regmaglypts, and it weighs 2 kilos. Assume the meteorite was a "loaner" and the giver had the expectation or right to get it back at some point in the future. Even with all of those assumptions, the stone is worth, at most, a couple thousand dollars - tops, under the best of circumstances. If money is what the guy is after and he wants the fair market value, give him a new iPhone and a $200 iTunes gift card, and call it even. Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 - On 4/18/13, Dan Miller wrote: > I like the line where it says the value of the cargo or meteorite is > worth billions if not trillions of dollars > On Apr 18, 2013 1:38 PM, "Galactic Stone & Ironworks" < > meteoritem...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Billions or trillions of dollars for a chunk of Mbale? >> >> Somebody is smoking something. >> >> Best regards, >> >> MikeG >> -- >> - >> Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com >> Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone >> Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone >> Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone >> RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 >> - >> >> >> >> On 4/18/13, Tom Randall wrote: >>> http://bit.ly/12qrXT9 >>> >>> Regards! >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> __ >>> >>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> __ >> >> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> __ >>> >>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteor
[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: April 15-19, 2013
MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES April 15-19, 2013 o Images of Gale #9 (15 April 2013) http://themis.asu.edu/node/6135 o Images of Gale #10 (16 April 2013) http://themis.asu.edu/node/6136 o Images of Gale #11 (17 April 2013) http://themis.asu.edu/node/6137 o Images of Gale #12 (18 April 2013) http://themis.asu.edu/node/6138 o Images of Gale #13 (19 April 2013) http://themis.asu.edu/node/6139 All of the THEMIS images are archived here: http://themis.asu.edu/latest.html NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University, Tempe, in co.oration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh!
Adam, I agree with the authorities in this case. They were right to make arrests. What bothers me is your statement that meteorites are now "Cultural property" because of coarse they are NOT! Question; Are meteorites really considered to be "cultural property"? Because if they are unless they are found on private land based on this story, We hunters risk arrest see link to story here; http://myfwc.com/news/news-releases/2013/february/27/artifacts-arrests/ This is rather scary when you consider the fact that meteorites are really just rocks until an expert declares them to be authentic and even them mistakes are made. What has happened to America? Carl meteoritemax -- Cheers Adam Hupe wrote: > The poorly interpreted and recently twisted U.S. laws are nearly as strict. > Give it a few more years. Now that meteorites are considered cultural > property, we will be hearing a lot more about this subject. When artifacts > and rocks (meteorites) are treated the same, so will the jail terms. The > recent Florida show artifact busts demonstrates that public servants are not > messing around. Several people are facing dozens of felony charges each > including a well-known meteorite collector and over a dozen previously > respected artifact dealers. > > Although well-intended, Egyptian laws have pushed the dealing of artifacts > underground and have raised their value considerably making them more > desirable than ever to some. Personally, I would not touch any item from > Turkey or Egypt without proper paperwork which is unobtainable. Just like > commercial meteorite collecting permits will be here in the U.S. > > > Adam > __ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh!
Florida Artifact Bust: http://ens-newswire.com/2013/02/28/florida-busts-artifact-thieves-who-damaged-lands-waters/ http://www.gainesville.com/article/20130227/wire/130229559 Utah Artifact Busts: http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=6771105 Unless you want a 10-year jail sentence here in the U.S., I would avoid picking up anything found on public land. Meteorites and cultural property (used to mean artifacts, antiquities or relics) are now interchangeable terms thanks to Douglass Schmidt and recent media! Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ugandan sues U.S. over meteorite
Hi, If the roles of the players here were reassigned different nationalities—such that the complainant were American—would you be railing about this being..."an American scam of some sort"? On Apr 18, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Michael Farmer wrote: > One can not just walk up and "give" a meteorite to the US embassy. None of > this story makes any sense. Furthermore unless he has a receipt, he would > have nothing to file a claim. He also would have some trouble since that was > more than 20 years ago! > Like I said, Nigerian scam of some sort. > Funny though. > I'll sell him a nice Mbale for only a few million and call it a day. > Michael Farmer > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 18, 2013, at 5:56 PM, "Galactic Stone & Ironworks" > wrote: > >> Hi List, >> >> Let's make assumptions, shall we? >> >> Assume the man did give a Mbale meteorite to the US Embassy. >> >> Assume the Mbale stone in question is a large, "museum-class" >> individual with fresh crust, regmaglypts, and it weighs 2 kilos. >> >> Assume the meteorite was a "loaner" and the giver had the expectation >> or right to get it back at some point in the future. >> >> Even with all of those assumptions, the stone is worth, at most, a >> couple thousand dollars - tops, under the best of circumstances. >> >> If money is what the guy is after and he wants the fair market value, >> give him a new iPhone and a $200 iTunes gift card, and call it even. >> >> Best regards, >> >> MikeG >> >> -- >> - >> Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com >> Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone >> Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone >> Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone >> RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 >> - >> >> >> >> On 4/18/13, Dan Miller wrote: >>> I like the line where it says the value of the cargo or meteorite is >>> worth billions if not trillions of dollars >>> On Apr 18, 2013 1:38 PM, "Galactic Stone & Ironworks" < >>> meteoritem...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Billions or trillions of dollars for a chunk of Mbale? Somebody is smoking something. Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 - On 4/18/13, Tom Randall wrote: > http://bit.ly/12qrXT9 > > Regards! > > Tom > > __ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> __ >> >> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] High end Nikon polarising microscope
Hi all, I have just clocked a superb Nikon trinocular polarising microscope on ebay. I am not affiliated in any way to) this seller but i do know that this is a very good price for this setup. I use this very microscope myself and can vouch for its very high quality optics and build quality. The seller is in the USA so any of you over there looking for a very good scope, i would suggest you check this auction out: (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300892960645&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123) All the best Cheers Martin -- Martin Goff www.msg-meteorites.co.uk IMCA #3387 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh!
The poorly interpreted and recently twisted U.S. laws are nearly as strict. Give it a few more years. Now that meteorites are considered cultural property, we will be hearing a lot more about this subject. When artifacts and rocks (meteorites) are treated the same, so will the jail terms. The recent Florida show artifact busts demonstrates that public servants are not messing around. Several people are facing dozens of felony charges each including a well-known meteorite collector and over a dozen previously respected artifact dealers. Although well-intended, Egyptian laws have pushed the dealing of artifacts underground and have raised their value considerably making them more desirable than ever to some. Personally, I would not touch any item from Turkey or Egypt without proper paperwork which is unobtainable. Just like commercial meteorite collecting permits will be here in the U.S. Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ugandan sues U.S. over meteorite
What are you saying? Yes, except we don't really have a term for "american" scams other than scams, but Nigeria is the scam capital of the world, pretty much all the country is known for now. Everyone with a pulse and an electronic device has been victim of "Nigerian" scams. My comment was that this scam is so crazy, so over the top, demanding billions to trillions of dollars, it can only be described as "Nigerian":) Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Apr 19, 2013, at 8:15 AM, Darryl Pitt wrote: > > Hi, > > If the roles of the players here were reassigned different nationalities—such > that the complainant were American—would you be railing about this > being..."an American scam of some sort"? > > > > On Apr 18, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Michael Farmer wrote: > >> One can not just walk up and "give" a meteorite to the US embassy. None of >> this story makes any sense. Furthermore unless he has a receipt, he would >> have nothing to file a claim. He also would have some trouble since that was >> more than 20 years ago! >> Like I said, Nigerian scam of some sort. >> Funny though. >> I'll sell him a nice Mbale for only a few million and call it a day. >> Michael Farmer >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Apr 18, 2013, at 5:56 PM, "Galactic Stone & Ironworks" >> wrote: >> >>> Hi List, >>> >>> Let's make assumptions, shall we? >>> >>> Assume the man did give a Mbale meteorite to the US Embassy. >>> >>> Assume the Mbale stone in question is a large, "museum-class" >>> individual with fresh crust, regmaglypts, and it weighs 2 kilos. >>> >>> Assume the meteorite was a "loaner" and the giver had the expectation >>> or right to get it back at some point in the future. >>> >>> Even with all of those assumptions, the stone is worth, at most, a >>> couple thousand dollars - tops, under the best of circumstances. >>> >>> If money is what the guy is after and he wants the fair market value, >>> give him a new iPhone and a $200 iTunes gift card, and call it even. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> MikeG >>> >>> -- >>> - >>> Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com >>> Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone >>> Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone >>> Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone >>> RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 >>> - >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4/18/13, Dan Miller wrote: I like the line where it says the value of the cargo or meteorite is worth billions if not trillions of dollars On Apr 18, 2013 1:38 PM, "Galactic Stone & Ironworks" < meteoritem...@gmail.com> wrote: > Billions or trillions of dollars for a chunk of Mbale? > > Somebody is smoking something. > > Best regards, > > MikeG > -- > - > Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com > Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone > Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone > Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone > RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 > - > > > > On 4/18/13, Tom Randall wrote: >> http://bit.ly/12qrXT9 >> >> Regards! >> >> Tom >> >> __ >> >> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> __ >>> >>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> __ >> >> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh!
I would'nt even visit a country, where harmless things, like collecting stuff from the ground, can lead to long term jail. If someone likes the visitation of someone else, he NEVER even thinks about such drastical kinds of threatment. So i conclude, tourists are not welcome in such countrys. Only their money is welcome (at least in the eyes of the government of these countrys). I would choose another country to travel. There are plenty of locations in the world, where IAM welcome and not (only) my money. - Original Nachricht Von: Stalder Thomas An: meteoritlist Datum: 19.04.2013 15:41 Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh! > Hi folks, > > Just my input about "stones" from Turkey. Recently the highest police > officer from the canton of Valais in Switzerland was arrested in Turkey > (carrying a stone most probably a piece of an ancient temple) when return > from family holidays. I would not try to carry anything out of Turkeylooking > like "ancient" not even a stone found on a beach somewhere. I'm glad that > I'm not working for our Consulate in Turkey otherwise cases like this one > means a lot of "overtime" work and maybe prison visits included. So I prefer > to be here in the "wild east balcan" country of Kosovo where to carry "tons" > of minerals out the country is not a problem at all (at least until now) :-) > > > Here a link (sorry only in German). > > http://www.blick.ch/news/ausland/verliert-varone-jetzt-seinen-job-id2242898. > html > > Cheers > Tom > > > > From: Martin Altmann > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 1:41 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh! > > > Hi Count, > > yep you're right, I'm no diplomat. > (And - viziers and consuls - here in Germany with its baleful history, we > have a different paradigm about states servants than in the hegemonic proud > Ex-Ottoman Empire, German consuls aren't only servants of the state, but > also servants of the people). > > Anyway, the arrests of tourists having picked up a stone from the beach are > always also a part of a political game. > > Partially because of the permanent refusal of the EU to start negotiations > with Turkey for its admittance to the EU, > and partially because of Turkey's aggressive policy to claim back > antiquities and cultural heritage from other governments. > > From the Rep. of Germany for instance, they want to have back that stuff: > http://www.geo.de/reisen/community/bild/regular/220723/Pergamon-Altar.jpg > > > (Btw. one important reason for not declaring meteorites to be "cultural" > heritage. > That would bring the big historic institutional collections in hard > troubles). > > Best! > Martin > > -UrsprünglicheNachricht- > Von: Count Deiro [mailto:countde...@earthlink.net] > Gesendet: Freitag, 19. April 2013 04:55 > An: Martin Altmann; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh! > > Hallo Martin, > > I said meteorite to him and the answer was "no". I don't want to call > attention to myself by asking for a further clarification. My feeling is > that he would take offense at my having the impudence (Frechheit) to quote > his own laws to him. > > Allesbestes > > Guido > > > > -Original Message- > >From: Martin Altmann > >Sent: Apr 18, 2013 12:14 PM > >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh! > > > >Hi Count, > > > >maybe you could ask the consul again, to give you the respective law? > > > >Decisive is the Law No. 2863 of July 21, 1983 on Conservation of > >Cultural and Natural Property (as last amended by Law No. 5835 of > >February 4, 2009 and Law No. 5917 of June 25, 2009) > > > >Here it is in English version: > >http://www.wipo.int/wipolex/en/text.jsp?file_id=249359 > > > >It definitely has no meteorites in the catalogue-articles, where all kind > of object-categories are explicitly named. > > > >Neither cover the definitions of "cultural property" nor "natural > >property", given in Chapter 1, Art. 3a) 1)&2) Meteorites in general, but > would need an interpretation by a court. > >E.g. a find of H5 could perhaps not be regarded "unique" (nor being of > beauty, if it's W3, hehe). > > > >And even if covered, if purchased from a dealer with the right license, > they could be exported like antiquities in such cases too. > > > >On the other side, rocks are per se not "o.k." see the definition of > "natural property". > > > > > >Best, > >Martin > > > > > >-UrsprünglicheNachricht- > >Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com > >[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] ImAuftragvon > >Count Deiro > >Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. April 2013 20:31 > >An: Anne Black; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh! > > > >Dear Anne, > > > >In reading the story, the two suspected artifacts are described in the body > of the article. > > > >I have contacted the Turkish Cultural and
Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh!
Hi folks, Just my input about "stones" from Turkey. Recently the highest police officer from the canton of Valais in Switzerland was arrested in Turkey (carrying a stone most probably a piece of an ancient temple) when return from family holidays. I would not try to carry anything out of Turkeylooking like "ancient" not even a stone found on a beach somewhere. I'm glad that I'm not working for our Consulate in Turkey otherwise cases like this one means a lot of "overtime" work and maybe prison visits included. So I prefer to be here in the "wild east balcan" country of Kosovo where to carry "tons" of minerals out the country is not a problem at all (at least until now) :-) Here a link (sorry only in German). http://www.blick.ch/news/ausland/verliert-varone-jetzt-seinen-job-id2242898.html Cheers Tom From: Martin Altmann To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh! Hi Count, yep you're right, I'm no diplomat. (And - viziers and consuls - here in Germany with its baleful history, we have a different paradigm about states servants than in the hegemonic proud Ex-Ottoman Empire, German consuls aren't only servants of the state, but also servants of the people). Anyway, the arrests of tourists having picked up a stone from the beach are always also a part of a political game. Partially because of the permanent refusal of the EU to start negotiations with Turkey for its admittance to the EU, and partially because of Turkey's aggressive policy to claim back antiquities and cultural heritage from other governments. From the Rep. of Germany for instance, they want to have back that stuff: http://www.geo.de/reisen/community/bild/regular/220723/Pergamon-Altar.jpg (Btw. one important reason for not declaring meteorites to be "cultural" heritage. That would bring the big historic institutional collections in hard troubles). Best! Martin -UrsprünglicheNachricht- Von: Count Deiro [mailto:countde...@earthlink.net] Gesendet: Freitag, 19. April 2013 04:55 An: Martin Altmann; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh! Hallo Martin, I said meteorite to him and the answer was "no". I don't want to call attention to myself by asking for a further clarification. My feeling is that he would take offense at my having the impudence (Frechheit) to quote his own laws to him. Allesbestes Guido -Original Message- >From: Martin Altmann >Sent: Apr 18, 2013 12:14 PM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh! > >Hi Count, > >maybe you could ask the consul again, to give you the respective law? > >Decisive is the Law No. 2863 of July 21, 1983 on Conservation of >Cultural and Natural Property (as last amended by Law No. 5835 of >February 4, 2009 and Law No. 5917 of June 25, 2009) > >Here it is in English version: >http://www.wipo.int/wipolex/en/text.jsp?file_id=249359 > >It definitely has no meteorites in the catalogue-articles, where all kind of >object-categories are explicitly named. > >Neither cover the definitions of "cultural property" nor "natural >property", given in Chapter 1, Art. 3a) 1)&2) Meteorites in general, but would >need an interpretation by a court. >E.g. a find of H5 could perhaps not be regarded "unique" (nor being of beauty, >if it's W3, hehe). > >And even if covered, if purchased from a dealer with the right license, they >could be exported like antiquities in such cases too. > >On the other side, rocks are per se not "o.k." see the definition of "natural >property". > > >Best, >Martin > > >-UrsprünglicheNachricht- >Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com >[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] ImAuftragvon >Count Deiro >Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. April 2013 20:31 >An: Anne Black; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh! > >Dear Anne, > >In reading the story, the two suspected artifacts are described in the body of >the article. > >I have contacted the Turkish Cultural and Economic Affairs office in >LosAngeles, California and His Excellency, Aydın Topcu, Consul General for >Turkey, informs me that the collection of meteorites for removal from Turkey >is forbidden under law and that there is no permit process. > >So "rocks" ok...other things not. > >Cordially, > >Count Deiro >IMCA 3536 > >-Original Message- >>From: Anne Black >>Sent: Apr 18, 2013 11:09 AM >>To: countde...@earthlink.net, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh! >> >>Sorry, but this does not add up. >>I have been to Turkey twice, beautiful country, very friendly people. >>I have bought minerals, some multi-colored marbles, picked up some >>blue serpentine on the side of the road, and had no problem at all >>bringing them back. >>I also visited many archaeological sites, but I certainly would never
Re: [meteorite-list] Glenn Huss
Zelimir It is good to hear from you. I agree that Wellman (c) seems the obvious choice, but it would be nice to confirm that "officially" some day. Thank you for all the other information as well. It is all very useful. Have a good weekend Peter Davidson Curator of Minerals National Museums Collection Centre 242 West Granton Road Edinburgh EH5 1JA 00 44 131 247 4283 p.david...@nms.ac.uk -Original Message- From: Prof. Zelimir Gabelica Université de Haute Alsace ENSCMu, [mailto:zelimir.gabel...@uha.fr] Sent: 19 April 2013 11:29 To: Peter Davidson Cc: Meteorite List (meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com) Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Glenn Huss Hello Peter, I suspect it could be "Wellman c" though I can't certify. These were the most often offered for sale some 10 to 15+ years ago by various dealers (D. New, B. Reed). Wellman a, b, d and e were rare, if ever offered. Here is the writeup of my "Wellman c" full slice (67.2 g), as obtained from B. Reed in 2004: WELLMAN (c) (Texas, H4), found 1964; tkw: 10@40+kg. History and scientific significance. Though recorded as found in 1964 by Huss, Eugene Cornelius recovered many specimens of Wellman (c) in the 50's. To date, 10 distinctly different meteorites were found in the Terry County area near Wellman. This is a great American meteorite that is typical of the weathered, rusty specimens found across the Great Plains region. Sample description. 86x55x7 mm full slice, black section, lots of metal spots, veined, orange & brown crust. AML label & # H39.452 (G. Huss) painted on edge. Note that, since, "Wellman f", a H3.5, was discovered. Here is part of the writeup I have for that one: WELLMAN (f) (Texas, H3.5)(S2W2), 1999 Around 1999, a cotton farmer uncovered a 16.4 kg stone while plowing about a half-mile south of Wellman, Texas. He kept the stone in his garage until 2004, when he contacted McCartney Taylor, who identified the stone as a meteorite. Since this is the 6th stone meteorite found near Wellman, it has been provisionally given the identifier of "(f)". Hope this brings some help. Best personal wishes, Zelimir -- Prof. Zelimir Gabelica Université de Haute Alsace ENSCMu, Lab. LPI-GSEC, 3, Rue A. Werner, F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94 Peter Davidson a écrit : > Hello Friends > > I wonder if anyone on the list can help me with some information > about the famous collector Glenn Huss. I have been working on the > collection recently and came across a specimen which we have now > discovered is linked to the collection of Glenn Huss by dint of > having a Huss Catalogue Number on the specimen . It is a specimen of > the Wellman meteorite and was purchase from the mineral dealer David > New of Montana in 1977 as part of a larger consignment which also > included two other meteorites (Wiluna and Allende) as well as > several mineral specimens. The Catalogue of Meteorites (CoM) lists > five Wellman entries (a,b,c,d and e) I was wondering which one ours > could fit into. It is clearly an H type chondrite but whether it is > H4 or H5 I can't really tell. I wondered if the catalogue of the > Huss collection exists somewhere and wondered if I could match up > the Huss number on our specimen with the register number in the > catalogue. I am also keen to add any additional information into our > own database here. All replies will be gratefully received. > > PS Notice I have resisted talking about the death of Margaret > Thatcher (oops!) > > Cheers > > Peter Davidson > Curator of Minerals > > National Museums Collection Centre > 242 West Granton Road > Edinburgh > EH5 1JA > 00 44 131 247 4283 > p.david...@nms.ac.uk > > > Vikings! Discover their untold story in a new exhibition of > treasures. National Museum of Scotland, 18 January - 12 May. Book now > www.nms.ac.uk/vikings > > National Museums Scotland, Scottish Charity, No. SC 011130 > This communication is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are > not the addressee please inform the sender and delete the email from > your system. The statements and opinions expressed in this message > are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of > National Museums Scotland. This message is subject to the Data > Protection Act 1998 and Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002. > No liability is accepted for any harm that may be caused to your > systems or data by this message. > Vikings! Discover their untold story in a new exhibition of treasures. National Museum of Scotland, 18 January 12 May. Book now www.nms.ac.uk/vikings National Museums Scotland, Scottish Charity, No. SC 011130 This communication is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the addressee please inform the sender and delete the email from your system. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of National Museums Scotland. Thi
Re: [meteorite-list] Glenn Huss
Martin Thanks for the information. As always you always seem to have some very useful and important information. I am aware of the other e-mail but I don't have time at the moment to consider my reply - soon! Cheers Peter Davidson Curator of Minerals National Museums Collection Centre 242 West Granton Road Edinburgh EH5 1JA 00 44 131 247 4283 p.david...@nms.ac.uk -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Martin Altmann Sent: 19 April 2013 12:20 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Glenn Huss Hi Peter, the Huss-numbers starts for the different Wellmen as follows: Wellman (a) H12.xx Wellman (b) H19.xx Wellman (c) H39.xx Wellman (d) H52.xx Wellman (e) H277.xx Best! Martin (PS: You have an email with another concern from me in your inbox) -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Peter Davidson Gesendet: Freitag, 19. April 2013 11:36 An: Meteorite List (meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com) Betreff: [meteorite-list] Glenn Huss Hello Friends I wonder if anyone on the list can help me with some information about the famous collector Glenn Huss. I have been working on the collection recently and came across a specimen which we have now discovered is linked to the collection of Glenn Huss by dint of having a Huss Catalogue Number on the specimen . It is a specimen of the Wellman meteorite and was purchase from the mineral dealer David New of Montana in 1977 as part of a larger consignment which also included two other meteorites (Wiluna and Allende) as well as several mineral specimens. The Catalogue of Meteorites (CoM) lists five Wellman entries (a,b,c,d and e) I was wondering which one ours could fit into. It is clearly an H type chondrite but whether it is H4 or H5 I can't really tell. I wondered if the catalogue of the Huss collection exists somewhere and wondered if I could match up the Huss number on our specimen with the register number in the catalogue. I am also keen to add any additional information into our own database here. All replies will be gratefully received. PS Notice I have resisted talking about the death of Margaret Thatcher (oops!) Cheers Peter Davidson Curator of Minerals National Museums Collection Centre 242 West Granton Road Edinburgh EH5 1JA 00 44 131 247 4283 p.david...@nms.ac.uk Vikings! Discover their untold story in a new exhibition of treasures. National Museum of Scotland, 18 January 12 May. Book now www.nms.ac.uk/vikings National Museums Scotland, Scottish Charity, No. SC 011130 This communication is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the addressee please inform the sender and delete the email from your system. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of National Museums Scotland. This message is subject to the Data Protection Act 1998 and Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002. No liability is accepted for any harm that may be caused to your systems or data by this message. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Vikings! Discover their untold story in a new exhibition of treasures. National Museum of Scotland, 18 January 12 May. Book now www.nms.ac.uk/vikings National Museums Scotland, Scottish Charity, No. SC 011130 This communication is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the addressee please inform the sender and delete the email from your system. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of National Museums Scotland. This message is subject to the Data Protection Act 1998 and Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002. No liability is accepted for any harm that may be caused to your systems or data by this message. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh!
Hi Count, yep you're right, I'm no diplomat. (And - viziers and consuls - here in Germany with its baleful history, we have a different paradigm about states servants than in the hegemonic proud Ex-Ottoman Empire, German consuls aren't only servants of the state, but also servants of the people). Anyway, the arrests of tourists having picked up a stone from the beach are always also a part of a political game. Partially because of the permanent refusal of the EU to start negotiations with Turkey for its admittance to the EU, and partially because of Turkey's aggressive policy to claim back antiquities and cultural heritage from other governments. From the Rep. of Germany for instance, they want to have back that stuff: http://www.geo.de/reisen/community/bild/regular/220723/Pergamon-Altar.jpg (Btw. one important reason for not declaring meteorites to be "cultural" heritage. That would bring the big historic institutional collections in hard troubles). Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Count Deiro [mailto:countde...@earthlink.net] Gesendet: Freitag, 19. April 2013 04:55 An: Martin Altmann; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh! Hallo Martin, I said meteorite to him and the answer was "no". I don't want to call attention to myself by asking for a further clarification. My feeling is that he would take offense at my having the impudence (Frechheit) to quote his own laws to him. Alles bestes Guido -Original Message- >From: Martin Altmann >Sent: Apr 18, 2013 12:14 PM >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh! > >Hi Count, > >maybe you could ask the consul again, to give you the respective law? > >Decisive is the Law No. 2863 of July 21, 1983 on Conservation of >Cultural and Natural Property (as last amended by Law No. 5835 of >February 4, 2009 and Law No. 5917 of June 25, 2009) > >Here it is in English version: >http://www.wipo.int/wipolex/en/text.jsp?file_id=249359 > >It definitely has no meteorites in the catalogue-articles, where all kind of >object-categories are explicitly named. > >Neither cover the definitions of "cultural property" nor "natural >property", given in Chapter 1, Art. 3a) 1)&2) Meteorites in general, but would >need an interpretation by a court. >E.g. a find of H5 could perhaps not be regarded "unique" (nor being of beauty, >if it's W3, hehe). > >And even if covered, if purchased from a dealer with the right license, they >could be exported like antiquities in such cases too. > >On the other side, rocks are per se not "o.k." see the definition of "natural >property". > > >Best, >Martin > > >-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- >Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com >[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von >Count Deiro >Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. April 2013 20:31 >An: Anne Black; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh! > >Dear Anne, > >In reading the story, the two suspected artifacts are described in the body of >the article. > >I have contacted the Turkish Cultural and Economic Affairs office in Los >Angeles, California and His Excellency, Aydın Topcu, Consul General for >Turkey, informs me that the collection of meteorites for removal from Turkey >is forbidden under law and that there is no permit process. > >So "rocks" ok...other things not. > >Cordially, > >Count Deiro >IMCA 3536 > >-Original Message- >>From: Anne Black >>Sent: Apr 18, 2013 11:09 AM >>To: countde...@earthlink.net, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh! >> >>Sorry, but this does not add up. >>I have been to Turkey twice, beautiful country, very friendly people. >>I have bought minerals, some multi-colored marbles, picked up some >>blue serpentine on the side of the road, and had no problem at all >>bringing them back. >>I also visited many archaeological sites, but I certainly would never >>pick up anything there. >> >>I wonder what his "stones" look like! >> >> >>Anne M. Black >>www.IMPACTIKA.com >>impact...@aol.com >> >> >>-Original Message- >>From: Count Deiro >>To: meteorite-list >>Sent: Thu, Apr 18, 2013 10:48 am >>Subject: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh! >> >> >>Hello Listees, >> >>Take a look at how Turkey is handling "rock collectors". And this one >>a tourist! >> >> >>http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/22013551/us-tourist-faces-jail-in-turkey- >>f or-collecting-beach-stones#axzz2QpOTN1Sq >> >>"It will never be he same." >> >>Count Deiro >>IMCA 3536 MetSoc >>__ >> >>Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>Meteorite-list mailing list >>Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> > >__ > >Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-li
Re: [meteorite-list] Glenn Huss
Hi Peter, the Huss-numbers starts for the different Wellmen as follows: Wellman (a) H12.xx Wellman (b) H19.xx Wellman (c) H39.xx Wellman (d) H52.xx Wellman (e) H277.xx Best! Martin (PS: You have an email with another concern from me in your inbox) -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Peter Davidson Gesendet: Freitag, 19. April 2013 11:36 An: Meteorite List (meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com) Betreff: [meteorite-list] Glenn Huss Hello Friends I wonder if anyone on the list can help me with some information about the famous collector Glenn Huss. I have been working on the collection recently and came across a specimen which we have now discovered is linked to the collection of Glenn Huss by dint of having a Huss Catalogue Number on the specimen . It is a specimen of the Wellman meteorite and was purchase from the mineral dealer David New of Montana in 1977 as part of a larger consignment which also included two other meteorites (Wiluna and Allende) as well as several mineral specimens. The Catalogue of Meteorites (CoM) lists five Wellman entries (a,b,c,d and e) I was wondering which one ours could fit into. It is clearly an H type chondrite but whether it is H4 or H5 I can't really tell. I wondered if the catalogue of the Huss collection exists somewhere and wondered if I could match up the Huss number on our specimen with the register number in the catalogue. I am also keen to add any additional information into our own database here. All replies will be gratefully received. PS Notice I have resisted talking about the death of Margaret Thatcher (oops!) Cheers Peter Davidson Curator of Minerals National Museums Collection Centre 242 West Granton Road Edinburgh EH5 1JA 00 44 131 247 4283 p.david...@nms.ac.uk Vikings! Discover their untold story in a new exhibition of treasures. National Museum of Scotland, 18 January 12 May. Book now www.nms.ac.uk/vikings National Museums Scotland, Scottish Charity, No. SC 011130 This communication is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the addressee please inform the sender and delete the email from your system. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of National Museums Scotland. This message is subject to the Data Protection Act 1998 and Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002. No liability is accepted for any harm that may be caused to your systems or data by this message. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Glenn Huss
Hello Peter, I suspect it could be "Wellman c" though I can't certify. These were the most often offered for sale some 10 to 15+ years ago by various dealers (D. New, B. Reed). Wellman a, b, d and e were rare, if ever offered. Here is the writeup of my "Wellman c" full slice (67.2 g), as obtained from B. Reed in 2004: WELLMAN (c) (Texas, H4), found 1964; tkw: 10@40+kg. History and scientific significance. Though recorded as found in 1964 by Huss, Eugene Cornelius recovered many specimens of Wellman (c) in the 50's. To date, 10 distinctly different meteorites were found in the Terry County area near Wellman. This is a great American meteorite that is typical of the weathered, rusty specimens found across the Great Plains region. Sample description. 86x55x7 mm full slice, black section, lots of metal spots, veined, orange & brown crust. AML label & # H39.452 (G. Huss) painted on edge. Note that, since, "Wellman f", a H3.5, was discovered. Here is part of the writeup I have for that one: WELLMAN (f) (Texas, H3.5)(S2W2), 1999 Around 1999, a cotton farmer uncovered a 16.4 kg stone while plowing about a half-mile south of Wellman, Texas. He kept the stone in his garage until 2004, when he contacted McCartney Taylor, who identified the stone as a meteorite. Since this is the 6th stone meteorite found near Wellman, it has been provisionally given the identifier of "(f)". Hope this brings some help. Best personal wishes, Zelimir -- Prof. Zelimir Gabelica Université de Haute Alsace ENSCMu, Lab. LPI-GSEC, 3, Rue A. Werner, F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94 Peter Davidson a écrit : Hello Friends I wonder if anyone on the list can help me with some information about the famous collector Glenn Huss. I have been working on the collection recently and came across a specimen which we have now discovered is linked to the collection of Glenn Huss by dint of having a Huss Catalogue Number on the specimen . It is a specimen of the Wellman meteorite and was purchase from the mineral dealer David New of Montana in 1977 as part of a larger consignment which also included two other meteorites (Wiluna and Allende) as well as several mineral specimens. The Catalogue of Meteorites (CoM) lists five Wellman entries (a,b,c,d and e) I was wondering which one ours could fit into. It is clearly an H type chondrite but whether it is H4 or H5 I can't really tell. I wondered if the catalogue of the Huss collection exists somewhere and wondered if I could match up the Huss number on our specimen with the register number in the catalogue. I am also keen to add any additional information into our own database here. All replies will be gratefully received. PS Notice I have resisted talking about the death of Margaret Thatcher (oops!) Cheers Peter Davidson Curator of Minerals National Museums Collection Centre 242 West Granton Road Edinburgh EH5 1JA 00 44 131 247 4283 p.david...@nms.ac.uk Vikings! Discover their untold story in a new exhibition of treasures. National Museum of Scotland, 18 January 12 May. Book now www.nms.ac.uk/vikings National Museums Scotland, Scottish Charity, No. SC 011130 This communication is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the addressee please inform the sender and delete the email from your system. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of National Museums Scotland. This message is subject to the Data Protection Act 1998 and Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002. No liability is accepted for any harm that may be caused to your systems or data by this message. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ensisheim flyer & latest news
Dear meteorite friends, The Ensisheim 2013 meteorite show flyer (in English and/or in French) is now available on two web sites: *Ensisheim City: www.ville-ensisheim.fr *The St Georges Confraternity: www.confrerie-gardiens-meteorite-ensisheim.fr As the sites will be updated only in a couple of days, those who wish to receive the info immediately, please write me and Ill send what you need as attachment. Here is a summary of the major changes for 2013: 1) SHOW LOCATION: Exceptionally this year, THE SHOW LOCATION MUST BE CHANGED Because the Regency Palace where the show is currently held is under reconstruction, this year the 14th show will take place in another separate building called FOYER St MARTIN. (in 2014 the show is again to take place in a brand renewed Regency Palace there will be an elevator!) The Foyer is located quite close (about 400 m) to the Regency palace. For those who are familiar with the Regency location, when you are in the main street, dont turn right towards the Regency but continue straight on up to the bridge (250 m away). Once on the bridge, the Domaine du Moulin hotel is on your right and the Foyer St Martin is on your left. Turn left after the bridge and proceed 100 m along the river. You cant miss the Foyer building in the large park on your right side and the large parking area all around. 2) SHOW ROOMS: The Foyer consists in one large 18.6 x 12 meter room, resembling the Regency main hall, though larger. The usual 160 x 80 cm tables will be probably arranged similar to the Regency arrangement. 3 open doors and a passageway lead to a large side-terrace (18 x 8 m) where 4 open tents will be erected against the Foyer wall, each containing 4 dealer tables. The advantage of the tents is that they are outdoors (fresh air), well protected from improbable rain and they offer a more quiet and intimate space. The passage along the tents is inevitable. Tents and the main room are separately guarded overnight. Opposite the main hall entrance is a podium (stage) where the genuine Ensisheim meteorite and the Thematic Exhibit (Meteorites from Antarctica and Chelyabinsk video/pics see flyer) are set. The Consignment Room (space where organizers & guests coming from far away are offering for sale their extraterrestrials), is set at the entrance of the main hall. 3) TABLE RENTING AND RESERVATION We have quite a number of newcomers so if you wish to reserve your usual table space it is more than time to let me know. Please, tell me also if you cant do it this year so that I dont send you any reminder. To avoid money transfer complications and bank fee, we accept you pay the table renting cash to the treasurer on Saturday morning. Since we dont require pre-payment, it would be very fair if, in case of cancellation, you notify us enough in advance so that we can rent your stall to those who are on a waiting list. All former dealers have full priority to reserve their last year table(s). Giving the 2013 Foyer particular configuration, the organizers reserve the right to attribute the layout of places (in tents and in the hall) in an optimal way so as to meet your wishes, always on the currently adopted first come, first served basis. Please also specify the names of ALL persons occupying your table (ideally 1 person per table, though 2 persons can be allowed for only one table reserved). Names are needed to write the corresponding badges. People without badges are not considered as dealers, cant occupy tables nor are allowed to sell meteorites elsewhere within the buildings. 4) FRIDAY DINNER PARTY The Party starts at 20:00 inside the large tent set in the park. This party is where folks from all around the vast world meet, eat and drink but also make friends, set business, start deals .Needless to say, everybody is warmly welcome! If you want to attend, let me just know from now on, your name and the total number of guests attending, so that we can fully meet all your commitments, needs and comfort. This reservation is a must to facilitate food preparation though we could always accommodate last hour guests in exceptional cases. No need to pay in devance. 5) ACCOMMODATION The 4 traditional hotels are mentioned on the flyer with full contact data. You can also browse through the Ensisheim web site or use Ensisheim + meteorite as keywords on Google or alike. For memory, the nearest hotel is now the "Domaine du Moulin", the other options being Les Loges de lEcomusée », the "Niemerich" hotel in Pulversheim and the "Cheval Blanc" in Baldersheim. Everybody must arrange for his own accommodation! If you call, they all do speak English and German. I am now looking forward to having news from many of you and am ready to provide you with any kind of additional information. My best regards to all, Zelimir -- Prof. Zelimir Gabelica Un
[meteorite-list] Glenn Huss
Hello Friends I wonder if anyone on the list can help me with some information about the famous collector Glenn Huss. I have been working on the collection recently and came across a specimen which we have now discovered is linked to the collection of Glenn Huss by dint of having a Huss Catalogue Number on the specimen . It is a specimen of the Wellman meteorite and was purchase from the mineral dealer David New of Montana in 1977 as part of a larger consignment which also included two other meteorites (Wiluna and Allende) as well as several mineral specimens. The Catalogue of Meteorites (CoM) lists five Wellman entries (a,b,c,d and e) I was wondering which one ours could fit into. It is clearly an H type chondrite but whether it is H4 or H5 I can't really tell. I wondered if the catalogue of the Huss collection exists somewhere and wondered if I could match up the Huss number on our specimen with the register number in the catalogue. I am also keen to add any additional information into our own database here. All replies will be gratefully received. PS Notice I have resisted talking about the death of Margaret Thatcher (oops!) Cheers Peter Davidson Curator of Minerals National Museums Collection Centre 242 West Granton Road Edinburgh EH5 1JA 00 44 131 247 4283 p.david...@nms.ac.uk Vikings! Discover their untold story in a new exhibition of treasures. National Museum of Scotland, 18 January 12 May. Book now www.nms.ac.uk/vikings National Museums Scotland, Scottish Charity, No. SC 011130 This communication is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the addressee please inform the sender and delete the email from your system. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of National Museums Scotland. This message is subject to the Data Protection Act 1998 and Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002. No liability is accepted for any harm that may be caused to your systems or data by this message. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Add Silver Nantan Coin
Hello and good day >From wet Colorado, USA On ebay I am offering one of the earlier silver meteorite coins The Nantan (China) with COA and metel case. It is a beatiful proof coin. You don't see these starting at 99cents very often. Here is the link if interested. http://www.ebay.com/itm/221214093214?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1586.l2649 Thanks and good day, Griff IMCA 2510 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: MIL 03346 Contributed by: AMN http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
