[meteorite-list] Astronomical Prices of Meteorites in Korea Still Controversial

2015-01-06 Thread Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list
Hello Listers

24 million dollar meteorite in the name of science, for everything else,
there's MasterCard ...


SEOUL, Dec 30 (Korea Bizwire) – The 4.5 billion-year-old meteorites
that fell in Jinju city, South Korea in March 2013 are having a hard
time entering Korean scientific research circles due to their owners’
excessive compensation demands. 

The Korean Government is attempting to purchase the meteorites for use
in scientific research. 

In March 2013, four meteorites weighing 35 kilograms in total fell on a
farming site in Jinju. They are as old as the sun, and the first
meteorites to land on the Korean peninsula in 71 years. 

The Korean Government announced that it would buy the meteorites to
benefit Korean scientific research communities, and to prevent the rare
celestial objects from being sold to foreign collectors. 

However, the current owners of the four meteorites are demanding more
than 27 billion won (US$ 24.5 million) in compensation. Meteorites of 35
kilograms are usually sold for around 180 million won (US$ 163,526) on
the international market.

Source:
http://koreabizwire.com/astronomical-prices-of-meteorites-in-korea-still-controversial/27193

Shawn Alan
IMCA 1633 
ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html
Website http://meteoritefalls.com 

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[meteorite-list] Tim Spahr Steps Down As Minor Planet Center Director

2015-01-06 Thread Ron Baalke via Meteorite-list


http://minorplanetcenter.net/blog/minor-planet-center-director-steps-down/

Minor Planet Center Director Steps Down
By J.L. Galache 
January 6, 2015

Effective January 25, 2015, Dr. Tim Spahr will step down from his position 
as director of the IAU's Minor Planet Center (MPC), which he was appointed 
to in 2006.

The Minor Planet Center is housed at the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory, 
who will be appointing an interim director until such a time as a new 
permanent director is found. In the meantime, MPC operations will  continue 
as usual.

This is all the information we have at this time.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomical Prices of Meteorites in Korea StillControversial

2015-01-06 Thread Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list
Just greedy people and part of the fault lies with the Korean government. They 
promoted super high values while trying to prevent an American from taking any 
of the stones. Let them not get anything. 
Michael Farmer

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 On Jan 6, 2015, at 10:33 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 
 $700.00 a gram for an ordinary fall?  I think $5.00 a gram is more realistic. 
  One of the images looks like iron ore to me. Perhaps they have not taken 
 into account that the U.S. Dollar is strengthening now that the lame Fed no 
 longer manipulates currency with the stupid Quantitative Easing idea.  Maybe, 
 they are overprinting the Korean Won!
 
 I have a feeling the current owners aren't selling much.
 
 Adam
 
 
 
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 Subject: [meteorite-list] Astronomical Prices of Meteorites in Korea 
 StillControversial
 
 
 Hello Listers
 
 24 million dollar meteorite in the name of science, for everything else,
 there's MasterCard ...
 
 
 SEOUL, Dec 30 (Korea Bizwire) – The 4.5 billion-year-old meteorites
 that fell in Jinju city, South Korea in March 2013 are having a hard
 time entering Korean scientific research circles due to their owners’
 excessive compensation demands.
 
 The Korean Government is attempting to purchase the meteorites for use
 in scientific research.
 
 In March 2013, four meteorites weighing 35 kilograms in total fell on a
 farming site in Jinju. They are as old as the sun, and the first
 meteorites to land on the Korean peninsula in 71 years.
 
 The Korean Government announced that it would buy the meteorites to
 benefit Korean scientific research communities, and to prevent the rare
 celestial objects from being sold to foreign collectors.
 
 However, the current owners of the four meteorites are demanding more
 than 27 billion won (US$ 24.5 million) in compensation. Meteorites of 35
 kilograms are usually sold for around 180 million won (US$ 163,526) on
 the international market.
 
 Source:
 http://koreabizwire.com/astronomical-prices-of-meteorites-in-korea-still-controversial/27193
 
 Shawn Alan
 IMCA 1633
 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html
 Website http://meteoritefalls.com
 
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[meteorite-list] Fossil Microbialites Found on Mars ???

2015-01-06 Thread Paul H. via Meteorite-list
Potential Signs of Ancient Life on Mars
by Johnny Bontemps, Astrobiology Magazine, 
http://www.astrobio.net/news-exclusive/potential-signs-ancient-life-mars-rover-photos/

PhysOrg at http://phys.org/news/2015-01-potential-ancient-life-mars-rover.html

The paper is:

Noffke, N. 2015, Ancient Sedimentary Structures in 
the  3.7 Ga Gillespie Lake Member, Mars, That 
Resemble Macroscopic Morphology, Spatial 
Associations, and Temporal Succession in Terrestrial 
Microbialites. Atrobiology. vol. 15, no. 2, ahead of print.
http://online.liebertpub.com/toc/ast/0/0
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25495393

PDF file of paper at http://online.liebertpub.com/doi/pdf/10.1089/ast.2014.1218

Yours,

Paul H.
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[meteorite-list] Volunteer 'Disk Detectives' Classify Possible Planetary Habitats

2015-01-06 Thread Ron Baalke via Meteorite-list


http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=4430

Volunteer 'Disk Detectives' Classify Possible Planetary Habitats
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
January 6, 2015

A NASA-sponsored website designed to crowdsource analysis of data from 
the agency's Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer (WISE) mission has reached 
an impressive milestone. In less than a year, citizen scientists using 
DiskDetective.org have logged 1 million classifications of potential debris 
disks and disks surrounding young stellar objects (YSO). This data will 
help provide a crucial set of targets for future planet-hunting missions.

This is absolutely mind-boggling, said Marc Kuchner, an astrophysicist 
at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland, and the 
project's principal investigator. We've already broken new ground with 
the data, and we are hugely grateful to everyone who has contributed to 
Disk Detective so far.

Combing through objects identified by WISE during its infrared survey 
of the entire sky, Disk Detective aims to find two types of developing 
planetary environments. The first, known as a YSO disk, typically is less 
than 5 million years old, contains large quantities of gas, and often 
is found in or near young star clusters. The second planetary habitat, 
known as a debris disk, tends to be older than 5 million years, holds 
little or no gas, and possesses belts of rocky or icy debris that resemble 
the asteroid and Kuiper belts found in our own solar system. Vega and 
Fomalhaut, two of the brightest stars in the sky, host debris disks.

Planets form and grow within disks of gas, dust and icy grains surrounding 
young stars. The particles absorb the star's light and reradiate it as 
heat, which makes the stars brighter at infrared wavelengths -- in this 
case, 22 microns -- than they would be without a disk.

Computer searches already have identified some objects seen by the WISE 
survey as potential dust-rich disks. But software can't distinguish them 
from other infrared-bright sources, such as galaxies, interstellar dust 
clouds and asteroids. There may be thousands of potential planetary systems 
in the WISE data, but the only way to know for sure is to inspect each 
source by eye.

Kuchner recognized that searching the WISE database for dusty disks was 
a perfect opportunity for crowdsourcing. He worked with NASA to team up 
with the Zooniverse, a collaboration of scientists, software developers 
and educators who collectively develop and manage citizen science projects 
on the Internet.

At DiskDetective.org, volunteers watch a 10-second flip book of a disk 
candidate shown at several different wavelengths as observed from three 
different telescopes, including WISE. They then click one or more buttons 
that best describe the object's appearance. Each classification helps 
astronomers decide which images may be contaminated by background galaxies, 
interstellar matter or image artifacts, and which may be real disks that 
should be studied in more detail.

In March 2014, just two months after Disk Detective launched, Kuchner 
was amazed to find just how invested in the project some users had become. 
Volunteers complained about seeing the same object over and over. We 
thought at first it was a bug in the system, Kuchner explained, but 
it turned out they were seeing repeats because they had already classified 
every single object that was online at the time.

Some 28,000 visitors around the world have participated in the project 
to date. What's more, volunteers have translated the site into eight foreign 
languages, including Romanian, Mandarin and Bahasa, and have produced 
their own video tutorials on using it.

Many of the project's most active volunteers are now joining in science 
team discussions, and the researchers encourage all users who have performed 
more than 300 classifications to contact them and take part.

One of these volunteers is TadeᚠCernohous, a postgraduate student in 
geodesy and cartography at Brno University of Technology in the Czech 
Republic. I barely understood what scientists were looking for when I 
started participating in Disk Detective, but over the past year I have 
developed a basic sense of which stars are worthy of further exploration, 
he said.

Alissa Bans, a postdoctoral fellow at Adler Planetarium in Chicago and 
a member of the Disk Detective science team, recalls mentioning that she 
was searching for candidate YSOs and presented examples of what they might 
look like on Disk Detective. In less than 24 hours, she said, Tadeᚠ
had compiled a list of nearly 100 objects he thought could be YSOs, and 
he even included notes on each one.

Speaking at a press conference at the American Astronomical Society meeting 
in Seattle on Tuesday, Kuchner said the project has so far netted 478 
objects of interest, which the team is investigating with a variety of 
ground-based telescopes in Arizona, California, New Mexico, Argentina 
and Chile. We now have at 

[meteorite-list] NASA's Chandra Detects Record-Breaking Outburst from Milky Way's Black Hole

2015-01-06 Thread Ron Baalke via Meteorite-list

 
January 5, 2015
 
NASA's Chandra Detects Record-Breaking Outburst from Milky Way's Black Hole

Astronomers have observed the largest X-ray flare ever detected from the 
supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way galaxy. This event, 
detected by NASA's Chandra X-ray Observatory, raises questions about the 
behavior of this giant black hole and its surrounding environment.

The supermassive black hole at the center of our galaxy, called Sagittarius 
A*, or Sgr A*, is estimated to contain about 4.5 million times the mass of 
our sun.

Astronomers made the unexpected discovery while using Chandra to observe how 
Sgr A* would react to a nearby cloud of gas known as G2.

Unfortunately, the G2 gas cloud didn't produce the fireworks we were 
hoping for when it got close to Sgr A*, said lead researcher Daryl Haggard 
of Amherst College in Massachusetts. However, nature often surprises us 
and we saw something else that was really exciting.

On Sept. 14, 2013, Haggard and her team detected an X-ray flare from Sgr A* 
400 times brighter than its usual, quiet state. This megaflare was 
nearly three times brighter than the previous brightest X-ray flare from Sgr 
A* in early 2012. After Sgr A* settled down, Chandra observed another 
enormous X-ray flare 200 times brighter than usual on Oct. 20, 2014.

Astronomers estimate that G2 was closest to the black hole in the spring of 
2014, 15 billion miles away. The Chandra flare observed in September 2013 was 
about a hundred times closer to the black hole, making the event unlikely 
related to G2.

The researchers have two main theories about what caused Sgr A* to erupt in 
this extreme way. The first is that an asteroid came too close to the 
supermassive black hole and was torn apart by gravity. The debris from such a 
tidal disruption became very hot and produced X-rays before disappearing 
forever across the black hole's point of no return, or event horizon.

If an asteroid was torn apart, it would go around the black hole for a 
couple of hours - like water circling an open drain - before falling 
in, said co-author Fred Baganoff of the Massachusetts Institute of 
Technology in Cambridge, Massachusetts. That's just how long we saw the 
brightest X-ray flare last, so that is an intriguing clue for us to 
consider.

If this theory holds up, it means astronomers may have found evidence for the 
largest asteroid to produce an observed X-ray flare after being torn apart by 
Sgr A*.

A second theory is that the magnetic field lines within the gas flowing 
towards Sgr A* could be tightly packed and become tangled. These field lines 
may occasionally reconfigure themselves and produce a bright outburst of 
X-rays. These types of magnetic flares are seen on the sun, and the Sgr A* 
flares have similar patterns of intensity.

The bottom line is the jury is still out on what's causing these giant 
flares from Sgr A*, said co-author Gabriele Ponti of the Max Planck 
Institute for Astrophysics in Garching, Germany. Such rare and extreme 
events give us a unique chance to use a mere trickle of infalling matter to 
understand the physics of one of the most bizarre objects in our galaxy.

In addition to the giant flares, the G2 observing campaign with Chandra also 
collected more data on a magnetar: a neutron star with a strong magnetic 
field, located close to Sgr A*. This magnetar is undergoing a long X-ray 
outburst, and the Chandra data are allowing astronomers to better understand 
this unusual object.

These results were presented at the 225th meeting of the American 
Astronomical Society being held in Seattle. NASA's Marshall Space Flight 
Center in Huntsville, Alabama, manages the Chandra program for NASA's Science 
Mission Directorate in Washington. The Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory 
in Cambridge, Massachusetts, controls Chandra's science and flight 
operations.

NASA is exploring our solar system and beyond to understand the universe and 
our place in it. The agency seeks to unravel the secrets of our universe, its 
origins and evolution, and search for life among the stars.

An interactive image, a podcast, and a video about the findings are available 
at:

http://chandra.si.edu 

For more Chandra images, multimedia and related materials, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/chandra 

-end-

Felicia Chou
Headquarters, Washington
202-358-0257
felicia.c...@nasa.gov 

Janet Anderson
Marshall Space Flight Center, Huntsville, Ala.
256-544-6162
janet.l.ander...@nasa.gov 

Megan Watzke
Chandra X-ray Center, Cambridge, Mass.
617-496-7998
mwat...@cfa.harvard.edu 


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Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Tucson Preview

2015-01-06 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks via Meteorite-list
I have to admit, I am drooling over that Peekskill.  :)


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On 1/6/15, Anne Black via Meteorite-list
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 Hello everybody,

 The Tucson Show is getting close and I am sure you are all thinking
 about it.
 So, to satisfy (or increase!) your curiosity I posted on my site some
 of the brand new pieces I will show there for the first time. And if
 you are not coming down to Tucson, now you will know what you are
 missing (not really, you can simply email me).
 Take a look at this page, a small bunch right now but if the Post
 Office hurries up, I will add to that list:

 http://www.impactika.com/special.htm

 And, please remember, I will be in the InnSuites (Tucson City/Center)
 Room 322, as usual.
 See you in the sunshine!

 Anne M. Black
 www.IMPACTIKA.com
 impact...@aol.com

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Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Tucson Preview

2015-01-06 Thread Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
Great looking Peekskill specimen that was never in contact with Lang's saw. 
All of the sliced specimens must have been cut with chlorinated tap water 
and are serious rusters.  It is good to see a fragment that survived this 
horrible fate!


Best Regards,

Adam

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Hello everybody,

The Tucson Show is getting close and I am sure you are all thinking about 
it.
So, to satisfy (or increase!) your curiosity I posted on my site some of 
the brand new pieces I will show there for the first time. And if you are 
not coming down to Tucson, now you will know what you are missing (not 
really, you can simply email me).
Take a look at this page, a small bunch right now but if the Post Office 
hurries up, I will add to that list:


http://www.impactika.com/special.htm

And, please remember, I will be in the InnSuites (Tucson City/Center) Room 
322, as usual.

See you in the sunshine!

Anne M. Black
www.IMPACTIKA.com
impact...@aol.com

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[meteorite-list] AD: Tucson Preview

2015-01-06 Thread Anne Black via Meteorite-list

Hello everybody,

The Tucson Show is getting close and I am sure you are all thinking 
about it.
So, to satisfy (or increase!) your curiosity I posted on my site some 
of the brand new pieces I will show there for the first time. And if 
you are not coming down to Tucson, now you will know what you are 
missing (not really, you can simply email me).
Take a look at this page, a small bunch right now but if the Post 
Office hurries up, I will add to that list:


http://www.impactika.com/special.htm

And, please remember, I will be in the InnSuites (Tucson City/Center) 
Room 322, as usual.

See you in the sunshine!

Anne M. Black
www.IMPACTIKA.com
impact...@aol.com

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[meteorite-list] Akatsuki to Try Again to Enter Orbit Around Venus

2015-01-06 Thread Ron Baalke via Meteorite-list

http://the-japan-news.com/news/article/0001832475

Akatsuki to reattempt to enter orbit of Venus
The Japan News
January 06, 2015

The Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency plans to have 
its probe Akatsuki reattempt an entry into the orbit of Venus in early 
December, probably its last chance due to low fuel, following a failed 
endeavor to do so in December 2010 because of engine trouble.

According to JAXA, the agency has been looking for an opportunity to have 
Akatsuki make a new attempt, while checking if the probe was still functional.

If the second attempt succeeds, Akatsuki will be Japan's first probe 
to enter the orbit of a planet other than Earth.

According to JAXA, Akatsuki is currently located about 134 million kilometers 
from Venus and is shortening the distance by about 400,000 kilometers 
a day.

In the previous attempt, Akatsuki tried to enter Venus' orbit by burning 
its main rocket in reverse to decelerate. But the rocket stopped working 
midway and the probe passed Venus. JAXA believes the engine likely 
malfunctioned 
due to abnormally high temperatures.

JAXA made gradual adjustments to Akatsuki's course, eventually having 
the probe orbit the sun on the off chance Akatsuki could approach Venus 
once more.

The agency initially considered a second attempt at the end of 2016, but 
decided instead to aim for an orbit in November this year over concern 
that the probe's body is deteriorating from the sun's heat. Following 
calculations, the agency said the ideal orbital insertion window was in 
early December.

According to the plan, Akatsuki aims to enter an oval orbit several hundreds 
to 400,000 kilometers above the planet by reducing its speed with four 
of its 12 small engines to control the probe, as its main engine is out 
of order.

Venus is almost the same size as Earth, which is why it is called Earth's 
sister planet. But Venus has surface temperatures of 500 C, not to 
mention atmospheric pressure about 90 times stronger than its sister. 
JAXA says Akatsuki is scheduled to observe Venus by revolving around the 
planet, taking eight to 10 days in each orbit over two years as it delves 
into why the planet's conditions became so severe.

The second attempt will have fewer observation opportunities as well as 
degraded image quality taken by its on-board camera as the orbit is farther 
from Venus than initially planned. But JAXA Prof. Masato Nakamura who 
leads the Akatsuki project said, Provided the equipment works, we should 
be able to make most of the planned observations.

The biggest hurdle looms ahead: Akatsuki will approach the sun in February 
and August before orbit insertion. By then, some of the probe's equipment 
will encounter temperatures as high as nearly 200 C. Nakamura added the 
minimum requirements for the second attempt will be met if the probe survives 
unscathed with no fuel leakage.Speech

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Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomical Prices of Meteorites in Korea Still Controversial

2015-01-06 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks via Meteorite-list
Sales of all astronomically-priced oriental meteorites are hereby
suspended until further notice.


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On 1/6/15, Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 Hello Listers

 24 million dollar meteorite in the name of science, for everything else,
 there's MasterCard ...


 SEOUL, Dec 30 (Korea Bizwire) - The 4.5 billion-year-old meteorites
 that fell in Jinju city, South Korea in March 2013 are having a hard
 time entering Korean scientific research circles due to their owners'
 excessive compensation demands.

 The Korean Government is attempting to purchase the meteorites for use
 in scientific research.

 In March 2013, four meteorites weighing 35 kilograms in total fell on a
 farming site in Jinju. They are as old as the sun, and the first
 meteorites to land on the Korean peninsula in 71 years.

 The Korean Government announced that it would buy the meteorites to
 benefit Korean scientific research communities, and to prevent the rare
 celestial objects from being sold to foreign collectors.

 However, the current owners of the four meteorites are demanding more
 than 27 billion won (US$ 24.5 million) in compensation. Meteorites of 35
 kilograms are usually sold for around 180 million won (US$ 163,526) on
 the international market.

 Source:
 http://koreabizwire.com/astronomical-prices-of-meteorites-in-korea-still-controversial/27193

 Shawn Alan
 IMCA 1633
 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html
 Website http://meteoritefalls.com

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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2015-01-06 Thread Paul Swartz via Meteorite-list
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Willamette

Contributed by: Zsolt Kereszty

http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=01/07/2015
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[meteorite-list] Met Bulletin Update - 57 New Approvals, Martian, Achondrites, OC's, Oman, Antarctica, Yemen, NWA

2015-01-06 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks via Meteorite-list
Hi Bulletin Watchers,

There is a major update. There are 57 new approvals from all over,
including : NWA, Oman, Yemen, and Antarctica.  Many of the approvals
are OC's.

There are a few interesting meteorites in the mix : Ureilite, CK6,
Diogenite, CO3, Eucrite, and Martian.

Update Link : 
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=sfor=namesants=falls=valids=stype=containslrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Allsrt=namecateg=Allmblist=Allrect=phot=snew=1pnt=Normal%20tabledr=page=1

Best regards and Happy Huntings,

MikeG

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Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomical Prices of Meteorites in Korea StillControversial

2015-01-06 Thread Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
$700.00 a gram for an ordinary fall?  I think $5.00 a gram is more 
realistic.  One of the images looks like iron ore to me. Perhaps they have 
not taken into account that the U.S. Dollar is strengthening now that the 
lame Fed no longer manipulates currency with the stupid Quantitative Easing 
idea.  Maybe, they are overprinting the Korean Won!


I have a feeling the current owners aren't selling much.

Adam



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Hello Listers

24 million dollar meteorite in the name of science, for everything else,
there's MasterCard ...


SEOUL, Dec 30 (Korea Bizwire) – The 4.5 billion-year-old meteorites
that fell in Jinju city, South Korea in March 2013 are having a hard
time entering Korean scientific research circles due to their owners’
excessive compensation demands.

The Korean Government is attempting to purchase the meteorites for use
in scientific research.

In March 2013, four meteorites weighing 35 kilograms in total fell on a
farming site in Jinju. They are as old as the sun, and the first
meteorites to land on the Korean peninsula in 71 years.

The Korean Government announced that it would buy the meteorites to
benefit Korean scientific research communities, and to prevent the rare
celestial objects from being sold to foreign collectors.

However, the current owners of the four meteorites are demanding more
than 27 billion won (US$ 24.5 million) in compensation. Meteorites of 35
kilograms are usually sold for around 180 million won (US$ 163,526) on
the international market.

Source:
http://koreabizwire.com/astronomical-prices-of-meteorites-in-korea-still-controversial/27193

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