Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos

[Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

Really ?
If I give a f*** about every shit out there starting from politics and 
ending on licence agreement on a DVD movie, I propably ends in asylum or as 
radical islam isis member alredy killed after You know what
No, this is a tool. Peoples kill using knives, so You stop using knives and 
blame anyone who use them  ? No. Or maybe yes, watching how crazy peoples 
are I can belive even in this. And I dont blame anyone here. I have enough 
examples on every news, watching this moron in Poland.


The whole drama started in answer to my invitation to my F** 
group(same as before). You dont like it, You dont go there.


End of discusion.
End of any emails here.
Im log out
But You know where to find me and latest informations from meteorite 
community


Have a nice day everyone.




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[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]







"And I completly DONT GIVE A SHIT who own it, what he belives"


And there you go.

You don't care. Enough said.

It doesn't matter what the ownership of that site believes, just as
long as they give you a handy platform to post meteorite photos.

Nice priorities there. Get off your high horse.

I'm done.



On 6/15/20, Marcin Cimala - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list
 wrote:

" I use Facebook. Facebook has features that email will never have

(video, live feeds, pictures, etc)."


FB invented none of those things and does not have a monopoly (yet) on
any of them. There are plenty of other apps and venues that offer live
video, photos, etc. One can easily upload photos to a cloud account or
website and link to them on this List. One can easily host a live feed
on numerous streaming platforms and link to them here. That is how it
used to be done, before FB came along and sucked all the oxygen out of
the room.


My God Michael, dont try to inwent wheel once again. Why You try 
complicate


everything ?
Yes You can post Your media on site X, I can post media on site Y, Greg 
can


use Z cloud and post links to them
At the end it will be like we need to go somewhere, ofcourse login to our
accounts, accept cookies, experience different layont, web page design 
etc.


On FB its all in one, it work good, it work on every platform and device,
its for free, fast and never dies.
And I completly DONT GIVE A SHIT who own it, what he belives, what he is
doing or if he is black or white as long as he dont say that meteorites 
are


illegal on his site. Its a tool like anything else.

There is one big limit. Chinese cant use it becouse its banned in china. 
But


its not banned in Morocco or Lybia
Can You imagine that I speak with guys from algeria or lybia, they share
photos beying in the same moment in the desert ?
I can speak with like 50 morocans in real-time asking for new pieces, 
they
ask me for my opinion about their specimens, we chat like good friends 
even


that I have no idea how they looks like. This is power!! The peoples.

Here You sit with 100 peoples, read one post a day and You are arguing 
that


its the best medium in the world.
Yes it was, 10 years ago. Your chice, I respect, but the best days are 
gone.


You cant disagree with that

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http://www.PolandMET.com   marcin(at)polandmet.com
[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]





For example, people would upload their Tucson or Ensisheim pics to
Photobucket, Flickr, or their website and then link them here. It just
involves a couple of extra clicks to bypass FB entirely for this
functionality.

'"I kind of cI kind of concur with the sentiment that this email list
is dead/dying. I

love the daily MPoD vial email, but aside from that, this vehicle for
sharing and engaging with others is antiquated and obsolete.oncur with
the sentiment that this email list is dead/dying. I
love the daily MPoD vial email, but aside from that, this vehicle for
sharing and engaging with others is antiquated and obsolete."


Over the years, I have seen this list wax and wane with activity. I
hope it will recover from this recent dry spell. I would argue that
this list is not obsolete, just suffering from a case of widespread
psychosis that somehow Zuckerberg's playground is better than the
medium itself that created it.

"However, I am grateful that it is still available for those of us who
cannot

or will not change with the times. "


If the times are changing to an online world where Facebook, Amazon,
and Google control everything, then count me out. I'll fly my Luddite
flag proudly.

" I believe those members have valuable

insight into meteorites and their history and I would sad to lose what
could
be gained from them because they cannot or choose not to grasp how to
use
Facebook or othe

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos

[Marcin Cimala - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

> What matters most of all is everyone being in *one* place. The problem 
with Facebook is there are now a million and one different groups, this has 
split the meteorite community into different places to the point that either 
you need to monitor 6 different media feeds 24/7 or you are out of the loop.


There are few groups worth to look
Meteorites (3800 ppl)
Meteorite Hunters, Collectors, and Enthusiasts (6500) by Pat Brown and Jason 
Utas

Meteorites, Tektites, Impactites & Ephemera (1700) hold by Mendy !
Meteorite Club (4800) by Alex Folda, John Higgins , Takis Theodossiou
Polandmet Meteorites  (1200) my own, worth to look becouse Im very 
"multimedia" guy

In fact I dont know why there are so big differences in members.

thats enough to be on-line with latest news
But most peoples are on the same groups posting same things on them all so 
You cant miss anything. And You can scroll down the wall, so You can see 
what was before. 30min a day and You are informed well.


So this is a tool and this depends on use how we use it, not matter who made 
it. Do You think Guns kill or peoples kill using guns. So this is the same 
useless discusion about Zuckenberg. Email is keeped by Google or Yahoo or 
whatever. Anyone think here that Google is blessed by God world friendly 
organization of nice next door guys? They are the same "nazi" like 
Zuckenberg, Microsoft, or Apple or that evil Amazon. Hey americans, You buy 
on amazon, You own iphone ? But You hate Facebook :D Interesting. Really.



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[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]





The more it fragments the less knowledge and 'community' there will be. 
The advantage of the metlist is there is pretty much only one metlist, 
yes, it's an old school way of doing things, and it rests on people making 
the effort to post and contribute.


Facebook does also have massive UI plusses over email, I appreciate people 
don't like Suckerberger, but we do sooner or later have to face facts 
pretty much no one under 30 these days uses email outside of work!


Cheers,
Mark

-Original Message-
From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] 
On Behalf Of Michael Gilmer via Meteorite-list

Sent: 15 June 2020 14:26
To: Roberto Vargas
Cc: bigjohns...@mail.com; Adam Hupe; metlist
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos

HI Roberto,

I love ya man, but I gotta tear this post apart. LOL.

"Thankfully, we all have the freedom to choose where to post and engage 
with

the community."


If Zuck had his way, we wouldn't have this freedom.

" I use Facebook. Facebook has features that email will never have

(video, live feeds, pictures, etc)."


FB invented none of those things and does not have a monopoly (yet) on
any of them. There are plenty of other apps and venues that offer live
video, photos, etc. One can easily upload photos to a cloud account or
website and link to them on this List. One can easily host a live feed
on numerous streaming platforms and link to them here. That is how it
used to be done, before FB came along and sucked all the oxygen out of
the room.

For example, people would upload their Tucson or Ensisheim pics to
Photobucket, Flickr, or their website and then link them here. It just
involves a couple of extra clicks to bypass FB entirely for this
functionality.

'"I kind of cI kind of concur with the sentiment that this email list
is dead/dying. I

love the daily MPoD vial email, but aside from that, this vehicle for
sharing and engaging with others is antiquated and obsolete.oncur with 
the sentiment that this email list is dead/dying. I

love the daily MPoD vial email, but aside from that, this vehicle for
sharing and engaging with others is antiquated and obsolete."


Over the years, I have seen this list wax and wane with activity. I
hope it will recover from this recent dry spell. I would argue that
this list is not obsolete, just suffering from a case of widespread
psychosis that somehow Zuckerberg's playground is better than the
medium itself that created it.

"However, I am grateful that it is still available for those of us who 
cannot

or will not change with the times. "


If the times are changing to an online world where Facebook, Amazon,
and Google control everything, then count me out. I'll fly my Luddite
flag proudly.

" I believe those members have valuable
insight into meteorites and their history and I would sad to lose what 
could

be gained from them because they cannot or choose not to grasp how to use
Facebook or other social media platforms."


Indeed, it would be sad. And that is exactly what FB and Zuck are
trying to do - put venues like this out of business and gobble up
their audiences. Oh, I grasp FB and ho

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos

[Marcin Cimala - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

" I use Facebook. Facebook has features that email will never have

(video, live feeds, pictures, etc)."


FB invented none of those things and does not have a monopoly (yet) on
any of them. There are plenty of other apps and venues that offer live
video, photos, etc. One can easily upload photos to a cloud account or
website and link to them on this List. One can easily host a live feed
on numerous streaming platforms and link to them here. That is how it
used to be done, before FB came along and sucked all the oxygen out of
the room.


My God Michael, dont try to inwent wheel once again. Why You try complicate 
everything ?
Yes You can post Your media on site X, I can post media on site Y, Greg can 
use Z cloud and post links to them
At the end it will be like we need to go somewhere, ofcourse login to our 
accounts, accept cookies, experience different layont, web page design etc.


On FB its all in one, it work good, it work on every platform and device, 
its for free, fast and never dies.
And I completly DONT GIVE A SHIT who own it, what he belives, what he is 
doing or if he is black or white as long as he dont say that meteorites are 
illegal on his site. Its a tool like anything else.


There is one big limit. Chinese cant use it becouse its banned in china. But 
its not banned in Morocco or Lybia
Can You imagine that I speak with guys from algeria or lybia, they share 
photos beying in the same moment in the desert ?
I can speak with like 50 morocans in real-time asking for new pieces, they 
ask me for my opinion about their specimens, we chat like good friends even 
that I have no idea how they looks like. This is power!! The peoples.


Here You sit with 100 peoples, read one post a day and You are arguing that 
its the best medium in the world.
Yes it was, 10 years ago. Your chice, I respect, but the best days are gone. 
You cant disagree with that


-[ MARCIN CIMALA ][ +48 793567667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
http://www.PolandMET.com   marcin(at)polandmet.com
[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]





For example, people would upload their Tucson or Ensisheim pics to
Photobucket, Flickr, or their website and then link them here. It just
involves a couple of extra clicks to bypass FB entirely for this
functionality.

'"I kind of cI kind of concur with the sentiment that this email list
is dead/dying. I

love the daily MPoD vial email, but aside from that, this vehicle for
sharing and engaging with others is antiquated and obsolete.oncur with 
the sentiment that this email list is dead/dying. I

love the daily MPoD vial email, but aside from that, this vehicle for
sharing and engaging with others is antiquated and obsolete."


Over the years, I have seen this list wax and wane with activity. I
hope it will recover from this recent dry spell. I would argue that
this list is not obsolete, just suffering from a case of widespread
psychosis that somehow Zuckerberg's playground is better than the
medium itself that created it.

"However, I am grateful that it is still available for those of us who 
cannot

or will not change with the times. "


If the times are changing to an online world where Facebook, Amazon,
and Google control everything, then count me out. I'll fly my Luddite
flag proudly.

" I believe those members have valuable
insight into meteorites and their history and I would sad to lose what 
could

be gained from them because they cannot or choose not to grasp how to use
Facebook or other social media platforms."


Indeed, it would be sad. And that is exactly what FB and Zuck are
trying to do - put venues like this out of business and gobble up
their audiences. Oh, I grasp FB and how to use it. And I have an
active presence on some non-Facebook platforms. My apparent beef is
not with social media itself, it is with Facebook and it's policies.
Ello and Mastodon are better than FB all day long and twice on
sundays.

"At the end of the day, some will move to Facebook and join the rest of 
us,
while others will stay here (until the number of people that are left 
here

is so small that it is really just an archive). "


I was the rest of us. When I first joined FB in early 2009, there was
exactly one large-ish meteorite group and just one or two other
dealers actively selling in other groups outside that one. We were
pretty lonely for a while and I was one of those people (like you)
singing the praises of social media and Facebook. Then everybody
started coming to FB and the List started getting quieter and quieter.
And FB started getting crazier and crazier, and then the algorithms
kicked in, and then Zuck took off his mask and showed his true colors.
You wanna roll with that guy, despite knowing what he's about?

Well, as long as Art keeps the lights turned on (so to speak), I am
going to try to help keep this List going. All of the content I used
to post on FB will now go here - new fall reports, met bull updates,

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos

[Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

I have started in Meteorites group discusion that every new classification 
should include few photos of specimen….


Excellent idea, Marcin!

It exists for many mets from Antarctica already!  Why not for all the newly 
classified mets? Including thin section photos!!!


https://tinyurl.com/ybygnu78

BTW: I’m not too fond about facebook policy but facebook is where the 
meteorite world takes place!


Cheers,
Peter=


=
Yes thats what is my intention.Im surprized I didnt get that idea before.
I have tryed tooday using EoM but its made for completly different purpose, 
it accept low resolution photos and its external website.


I have right now newly classified meteorite
Northwest Africa 13337 (467 g, Mesosiderite)
It will be test if all 13 photos will be accepted and submited with it to 
Met Bull.
If it go through, I will do it with every next classification and hopefully 
some other dealers will follow.


But Im affraid many will not like to publish their specimens or they dont 
care. If they must show all necesary information to submit their specimens, 
they should also care to submit required reference material photo. Not 
becouse Cimala want to see what Mr Farmer bought. I can read it in 
classification. Its for reference and also hey, do we collecting DATA or we 
collecting meteorites. I want to be able to watch classified 50kg lunar even 
if I dont care who got it or I dont have need to own it. But this could be 
pleasure to see its photos and learn about it something more than 
geochemical data.


Most meteorites sink somewhere and we will never see them again. Or they 
will be cut and be destroyed that way forever becouse noone saved photos of 
them,


Lets start revolution :)

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos

[Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

sorry, end of bullshit :)
I go back to Facebook
Stay safe in silence.

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[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]




Take it private if you want to argue.






On 6/14/20 at 12:46 PM, Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list wrote:


Hi Marcin,

I did not mean my reply to sound aggressive or personal towards you. I
have always liked you and never had a problem with you personally. I
just don't like Facebook (or Zuckerberg) and the increasing stagnation
of this fine mailing list is a direct result of social media sites
like FB siphoning away all of the online oxygen. Facebook seeks to
control information and discourse - a monolithic entity answerable to
nobody that exploits it's userbase as a resource to enrich itself. It
does this without regard to the collateral damage done to privacy or
civil rights. All the while, FB is doing nothing original or
innovative. Chatting, posting, groups, and every other functionality
of FB are things we can do elsewhere. We don't *need* Facebook. It
needs us.

=
Nothing personaly ofcourse.
I completly dont understand Your point of view and negative approach. I
never saw any "control information" on FB except some "jail time" for some
persons for their political comments or radical posts. Even I was 24h 
banned
once but it was becouse of my comment under political post. So this was 
not
connected to our hobby. If You stay away from bullshit like political 
posts

You are safe. It was surprize for me but I completly agree with this "jail
time". It was lesson.

I tryed to show You how to use Facebook as very valuable, friendly 
platform

but seems You are too negavite to it. Sorry to see that. Its Your right, I
understand.




This List introduced me to the meteorite world. It brought me to the
dance, so to speak. And after many years of playing the social media
field, I have come back home to my high-school sweetheart, the
Met-List.

===
me too, it was the best source of meteorite informations, sales, but it 
was
many many years ago. Its like Met Bull with classification info but 
without

photos of specimens. Its like telling that Radio auditions are better than
TV shows becouse in TV speaker is watching You. I cant agree becouse its 
up

on You how You use it. You dont have that controll watching TV or read
newspapers. You eat what they serve You there.


A lof of other collectors and dealers still congregate on FB and many
do quite well with sales. That's fine and I wish them success in what
works for them. I was one of the first handful of meteorite people to
become active on FB back in 2009 and now I am not the first to pack up
and leave that venue. I probably won't be the last. I've already
noticed that some List members are not very active on FB any more.
Maybe it's for the same reasons or they have their own reasons. But, I
think it's high time to get this mailing list rolling again. FB has
stolen the thunder for too long. The Met-List and FB don't have to be
mutually exclusive and both can co-exist. But, if Zuck and FB had
their way, venues like this mailing list would be trampled into
silence or absorbed into the Borg-like collective that is Facebook and
Amazon.

To each their own, but long live the List!
MikeG


I still cant understand what Zuckenberg have to You reading my posts in
meteorite group about my new slices.
Sorry but this sounds like irrational bullshit to me. This is soo strange
that You have used FB before so what happend ?

Nothing personaly Michael.


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http://www.PolandMET.com   marcin(at)polandmet.com
[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]






On 6/14/20, Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET  wrote:
> This is not a good point. You missing it.
> Do You watch TV ? You choose TV program You want to watch. You buy
> newspapers You think are worth Your money.
> Same You do on facebook. You choose Your friends and groups You want to
> watch for informations You want to see. Valuable for You. If they are
> crap,
>
> You leave groups, You unfriend stupid peoples the same as You turn to
> another TV channel if they start comercials in the middle of movie or 
> You

> go
>
> to another page if there is stupid article or not interesting for You.
>
> You have Your smartphone and computer? They spies You even better than
> cameras on the streets. Then why You think Facebook spies You better 
> than
> Your phone ? If You feel unfonfortable, sell all electronic devices, 
> unpug

> Your net cable, turn off wi-fi. No, You cant.
>
> My understand of Facebook (I dont use any other social media) is that it
> is
>
> like TV. I watch only this

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos

[Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

Hi Marcin,

 I don't do facebook either. When it first started I was on it for 3 
months and didn't care for it so I found out how to permanently delete my 
account and never looked back. For one thing it's one of the most insecure 
sites on the internet. How many times a year do I read or hear about some 
security issue(s) with it? And there just so much nonsense on it as well. 
It's not for me. I prefer this list and/or perhaps a web site dedicated to 
meteorites. Then again I've never been a trend/fad follower. "But 
everybody is on facebook!" So what?!


Again some generalities...
How its insecure? If You are affraid of Your privacy, make account with new 
Gmail, fake personal informations, no family photos, fake phone number, so 
what then You lose if Putin hackers steal Your personal data ? :D
Your smartphone, Your credit card or mailbox in front of Your house is much 
easier to hack and contain more info than FB account will ever have. So how 
it is insecure? This is nonsense.



I choose not to use facebook. Just like I choose TV shows or movies I 
watch. If the list moves to facebook I'm out. Not that I'm a major player 
in the world of meteorites or anything, I'm just a low level, meager 
collector.


I can ensure You that what "YOU ARE FORCED" to watch in TV is much bigger 
bullshit than what "You can choose Yourself" on FB.
Maybe "everyone" are alredy there from months. Thats why there are only 
Meteorites of the Day posts.


Sorry but its above my understanding level. Maybe someone can explain me 
whats wrong with disscusing meteorites on meteorite group without hate, 
rasism, politics and stupid comments.


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http://www.PolandMET.com   marcin(at)polandmet.com
[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]







Tom


On 6/14/20 10:54 AM, Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list wrote:

This is not a good point. You missing it.
Do You watch TV ? You choose TV program You want to watch. You buy 
newspapers You think are worth Your money.
Same You do on facebook. You choose Your friends and groups You want to 
watch for informations You want to see.



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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos

[Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

Hi Marcin,

I did not mean my reply to sound aggressive or personal towards you. I
have always liked you and never had a problem with you personally. I
just don't like Facebook (or Zuckerberg) and the increasing stagnation
of this fine mailing list is a direct result of social media sites
like FB siphoning away all of the online oxygen. Facebook seeks to
control information and discourse - a monolithic entity answerable to
nobody that exploits it's userbase as a resource to enrich itself. It
does this without regard to the collateral damage done to privacy or
civil rights. All the while, FB is doing nothing original or
innovative. Chatting, posting, groups, and every other functionality
of FB are things we can do elsewhere. We don't *need* Facebook. It
needs us.

=
Nothing personaly ofcourse.
I completly dont understand Your point of view and negative approach. I 
never saw any "control information" on FB except some "jail time" for some 
persons for their political comments or radical posts. Even I was 24h banned 
once but it was becouse of my comment under political post. So this was not 
connected to our hobby. If You stay away from bullshit like political posts 
You are safe. It was surprize for me but I completly agree with this "jail 
time". It was lesson.


I tryed to show You how to use Facebook as very valuable, friendly platform 
but seems You are too negavite to it. Sorry to see that. Its Your right, I 
understand.





This List introduced me to the meteorite world. It brought me to the
dance, so to speak. And after many years of playing the social media
field, I have come back home to my high-school sweetheart, the
Met-List.

===
me too, it was the best source of meteorite informations, sales, but it was 
many many years ago. Its like Met Bull with classification info but without 
photos of specimens. Its like telling that Radio auditions are better than 
TV shows becouse in TV speaker is watching You. I cant agree becouse its up 
on You how You use it. You dont have that controll watching TV or read 
newspapers. You eat what they serve You there.



A lof of other collectors and dealers still congregate on FB and many
do quite well with sales. That's fine and I wish them success in what
works for them. I was one of the first handful of meteorite people to
become active on FB back in 2009 and now I am not the first to pack up
and leave that venue. I probably won't be the last. I've already
noticed that some List members are not very active on FB any more.
Maybe it's for the same reasons or they have their own reasons. But, I
think it's high time to get this mailing list rolling again. FB has
stolen the thunder for too long. The Met-List and FB don't have to be
mutually exclusive and both can co-exist. But, if Zuck and FB had
their way, venues like this mailing list would be trampled into
silence or absorbed into the Borg-like collective that is Facebook and
Amazon.

To each their own, but long live the List!
MikeG


I still cant understand what Zuckenberg have to You reading my posts in 
meteorite group about my new slices.
Sorry but this sounds like irrational bullshit to me. This is soo strange 
that You have used FB before so what happend ?


Nothing personaly Michael.


-[ MARCIN CIMALA ][ +48 793567667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
http://www.PolandMET.com   marcin(at)polandmet.com
[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]






On 6/14/20, Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET  wrote:

This is not a good point. You missing it.
Do You watch TV ? You choose TV program You want to watch. You buy
newspapers You think are worth Your money.
Same You do on facebook. You choose Your friends and groups You want to
watch for informations You want to see. Valuable for You. If they are 
crap,


You leave groups, You unfriend stupid peoples the same as You turn to
another TV channel if they start comercials in the middle of movie or You 
go


to another page if there is stupid article or not interesting for You.

You have Your smartphone and computer? They spies You even better than
cameras on the streets. Then why You think Facebook spies You better than
Your phone ? If You feel unfonfortable, sell all electronic devices, unpug
Your net cable, turn off wi-fi. No, You cant.

My understand of Facebook (I dont use any other social media) is that it 
is


like TV. I watch only this channel that Im interested. Im in meteorite
groups, not all of them, just some, in my actual car group, in car that I
want to buy group, cats group, 3D printing groups, my photo camera groups.
Groups that are importand to me, same as I like to watch Discovery 
channels,


National Geographin or history channels in TV but I dont watch news 
channels


or some other crap things in TV.

Got it ? You still can have 0 friends on facebook and You can be in 3
valuable meteorite groups read all the news about them. What this wil

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos

[Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

This is not a good point. You missing it.
Do You watch TV ? You choose TV program You want to watch. You buy 
newspapers You think are worth Your money.
Same You do on facebook. You choose Your friends and groups You want to 
watch for informations You want to see. Valuable for You. If they are crap, 
You leave groups, You unfriend stupid peoples the same as You turn to 
another TV channel if they start comercials in the middle of movie or You go 
to another page if there is stupid article or not interesting for You.


You have Your smartphone and computer? They spies You even better than 
cameras on the streets. Then why You think Facebook spies You better than 
Your phone ? If You feel unfonfortable, sell all electronic devices, unpug 
Your net cable, turn off wi-fi. No, You cant.


My understand of Facebook (I dont use any other social media) is that it is 
like TV. I watch only this channel that Im interested. Im in meteorite 
groups, not all of them, just some, in my actual car group, in car that I 
want to buy group, cats group, 3D printing groups, my photo camera groups. 
Groups that are importand to me, same as I like to watch Discovery channels, 
National Geographin or history channels in TV but I dont watch news channels 
or some other crap things in TV.


Got it ? You still can have 0 friends on facebook and You can be in 3 
valuable meteorite groups read all the news about them. What this will tell 
Zuckenberg about You ? That You like rocks. Is this something bad ? No I 
dont think soo.


Think about this

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http://www.PolandMET.com   marcin(at)polandmet.com
[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]







Hi Marcin and List,

Yes, the List has been quiet lately and part of that is because
Facebook is strangling other venues. I don't see that as a good thing.
This List is far more preferable (IMO) than an invasive venue that
spies on your every move, filters your feed with restrictive
algorithms, takes ownership of your content, and engages in behavior
that is destructive to civil discourse. I deleted my Facebook account
and couldn't be happier about it.

Starting very soon, I will doing my part to re-invigorate this List. I
will start posting regular updates with the latest Met Bulletin
approvals and other content that I used to waste on Facebook.

Screw Facebook and Zuckerberg.

Best regards,

MikeG



On 6/14/20, Marcin Cimala - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list
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Hello list
I see there is only discusion about Pictures of the day :) Is this list 
dead


?
Come to the Facebook peoples, it dont bite. Meteorite group, Polandmet
Meteorites group and many other very valuable groups with alot info about
meteorites and thousand of users.

I have started in Meteorites group discusion that every new 
classification
should include few photos of specimen. Not in Encyclopedia of Meteorites 
but


reference photos submited with classification and provided by 
specimen/main


mass holder.

When Im sending type specimen to the lab I also need to send them few 
photos


of entire mass wirth scale cube and also photo of cut surface, slice. 
This
will give every meteorite his "face", idea what is NWA 12123214 and if 
slice


I just bough look like reference photo.

Every time there is Met Bull update there are many rare specimens but 
they

stay only as number. Sometimes we can find them on ebay or search name in
Google we can find specimens in someone website. But this really should 
look


like that ? We have 2020, every morocan in the desert have now smartphone
with high quality camera. I get their photos every hour. Photos of
incredible specimen. But they can be seen only by few of us. Why not for
everyone and forever? Most dealers who submit big ammount of specimens in
Met Bull sell online so it is not a problem to require some 
representative

photos of specimen or the biggest mass. You dont have good camera ? Whats
the problem? You can find 10 friends with Canon, Nikon or new Iphone to
prepare requested pictures the same as You collect all requested
informations about Your specimen like date of find, TKW, place of find 
etc.


I realy dont see a problem. This need only some discusion and some good
will

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[meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos

[Marcin Cimala - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

Hello list
I see there is only discusion about Pictures of the day :) Is this list dead 
?
Come to the Facebook peoples, it dont bite. Meteorite group, Polandmet 
Meteorites group and many other very valuable groups with alot info about 
meteorites and thousand of users.


I have started in Meteorites group discusion that every new classification 
should include few photos of specimen. Not in Encyclopedia of Meteorites but 
reference photos submited with classification and provided by specimen/main 
mass holder.


When Im sending type specimen to the lab I also need to send them few photos 
of entire mass wirth scale cube and also photo of cut surface, slice. This 
will give every meteorite his "face", idea what is NWA 12123214 and if slice 
I just bough look like reference photo.


Every time there is Met Bull update there are many rare specimens but they 
stay only as number. Sometimes we can find them on ebay or search name in 
Google we can find specimens in someone website. But this really should look 
like that ? We have 2020, every morocan in the desert have now smartphone 
with high quality camera. I get their photos every hour. Photos of 
incredible specimen. But they can be seen only by few of us. Why not for 
everyone and forever? Most dealers who submit big ammount of specimens in 
Met Bull sell online so it is not a problem to require some representative 
photos of specimen or the biggest mass. You dont have good camera ? Whats 
the problem? You can find 10 friends with Canon, Nikon or new Iphone to 
prepare requested pictures the same as You collect all requested 
informations about Your specimen like date of find, TKW, place of find etc.


I realy dont see a problem. This need only some discusion and some good will

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[meteorite-list] Stefan Ralew phone number

[Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

Anyone ?
Maybe Stefan here? :D

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Re: [meteorite-list] 15? New Falls in the year 2018 - an apparent bombardment

[Marcin Cimala - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

Remember Libya


Jan 16, 2018 - Hamburg (H4 chondrite) : Michigan USA
Feb 16, 2018 - Ablaketka (H5 chondrite) : Kazakhstan
Mar 07, 2018 - "Grays Harbor" (unofficial) (unknown type) : Pacific
Ocean (Washington coast, USA)
Apr 19, 2018 - Aba Panu (L3-6 chondrite) : Nigeria
Jun 01, 2018 - Mangui (L6 chondrite) : China (Hammer)
Jun 02, 2018 - "Central Kalahari" (unofficial) (unknown type) : Botswana
Jun 21, 2018 - Ozerki (L6 chondrite) : Russia
Jul 10, 2018 - Renchen (L5-6 chondrite) : Germany
Jul 27, 2018 - "Glendale" (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) : Arizona USA
July 27, 2018 - Benenitra (L6 chondrite) : Madagascar
Aug 12-17?, 2018 - "Bhakkar" (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) : Pakistan
Aug 21, 2018 - Gueltat Zemmour (L4 chondrite) : Morocco


Aug 26, 2018 - Libya L6 Chondrite


Sep 26, 2018 - Komaki (L6 chondrite) : Japan (Hammer)
Oct 28, 2018 - Ksar El Goraane (H5 chondrite) : Morocco
Dec 28, 2018 - Mhabes el Hamra (H4/5 chondrite) : Mauritania

21st Century Falls - http://galactic-stone.com/pages/falls



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[meteorite-list] AD NWA 4965 Brecciated Diogenite Lunar-like

[Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

Dear list members
Tooday I like to annmounce new specimens of one of the best diogenite.
Slices was perfectly polished to mirror from one side. Each slice is very 
thin around 1.6mm only so You pay for surface area, not for grams.

Take a look
https://www.polandmet.com/product-category/3-achondrite/nwa-4965-diogenite/

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[meteorite-list] AD - Libya fall and new website

[Marcin Cimala - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

Hello
I look here rarely as I live with others in wonderfull Facebook meteorite 
universe full of specimen photos, fall news and interesting talks with 
friends.

But tooday is a good day to announce two fantastic news.

First is my totaly new website. Its not website anymore, its internet shop. 
This was lots of work not only with designing but also transfering specimens 
into new place with new photos and new prices :) This is a big change after 
18 years with more or less simple website.

https://www.polandmet.com/

Second news is Libya new fall. Well its not new, its 5 months old but still 
its latest one. This take a while to locate it and transfer to Morocco.
Tooday I received 8 selected specimens ... well now only 7... at wide size 
range so take a look.

https://www.polandmet.com/product-category/1-chondrite/libya-new-fall-l6/
Some say I make wonderfull photos so even if You dont buy anything its worth 
to take a deep look into them.



Now I go sleep so dont call me please, especially guyz from Kenya trying to 
sell me 2 tons of Sericho.

:D

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[meteorite-list] SALE lunar meteorite transparent slices below 1mm thin NWA 11421

[Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

Hello List
I have pleasure to show You crazy lunar slices. Mostly cut below 1mm thin, 
with one side polished and in membrane boxes.

All slices show excellent translucent plagioclase,

http://www.polandmet.com/_nwa11421.htm

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[meteorite-list] Ureilites presale

[Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

Dear listers
Listed exclusive presale of my 4 urelites. 
Few slices at fair price 25$/g fully prepared both side at high grids. 
http://www.polandmet.com/

Specimens in classifications, results in 1-2 months

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites360 - PULTUSK H5

[Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

Correct URLs

METEORITES360° - PUŁTUSK Chondrite H5 - 1570 gram
https://youtu.be/PoNZd22LBLY

METEORITES360° - PUŁTUSK Chondrite H5 - 1514 gram
https://youtu.be/mREkHgESkLQ



Dear Meteorite list
I continue my work with videos and meteorites. This time I can show You 
two the same but how different specimens.
Both are Pultusk H5 fall from 30 january 1868 in Poland. Both are huge 
one. They are first and second largest found in recent years. But they are 
completly different. One is uncleaned and the other wone is cleaned.


Compare all differences. Think about fact that someone who will see that 
pretty black crusted meteorite in cabinet will never look to find that 
orange colored rusty rock in the field. That's why I organized both 
specimens for this purpose. More detailed explanation will be prepared in 
polish language from my educational page www.meteoryty.pl


Maybe these movies will help to reduce the number of granite stones 
reported as meteorites.


METEORITES360° - PUŁTUSK Chondrite H5 - 1570 
gramhttps://youtu.be/PoNZd22LBLY


METEORITES360° - PUŁTUSK Chondrite H5 - 1514 
gramhttps://youtu.be/mREkHgESkLQ


Please share, comment and wait for more


Special Thanks to Dave Gheesling and Łukas Smuła. You rock !

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[meteorite-list] Meteorites360 - PULTUSK H5

[Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

Dear Meteorite list
I continue my work with videos and meteorites. This time I can show You two 
the same but how different specimens.
Both are Pultusk H5 fall from 30 january 1868 in Poland. Both are huge one. 
They are first and second largest found in recent years. But they are 
completly different. One is uncleaned and the other wone is cleaned.


Compare all differences. Think about fact that someone who will see that 
pretty black crusted meteorite in cabinet will never look to find that 
orange colored rusty rock in the field. That's why I organized both 
specimens for this purpose. More detailed explanation will be prepared in 
polish language from my educational page www.meteoryty.pl


Maybe these movies will help to reduce the number of granite stones reported 
as meteorites.


METEORITES360° - PUŁTUSK Chondrite H5 - 1570 
gramhttps://youtu.be/PoNZd22LBLY


METEORITES360° - PUŁTUSK Chondrite H5 - 1514 
gramhttps://youtu.be/mREkHgESkLQ


Please share, comment and wait for more


Special Thanks to Dave Gheesling and Łukas Smuła. You rock !

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[meteorite-list] Morasko 175kg - 2nd largest

[Marcin Cimala - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

Hello list
I have very special specimen to offer.
Its the 2nd largest Morasko iron meteorite IAB. Main mass 260kg is located 
in Poznan University and its not available. Specimen 175kg its the largest 
private owned Morasko right now.


https://youtu.be/XrqoZnaputQ

Im looking for serious collector or museum. Specime is legaly owned with 
export permission.


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[meteorite-list] AD Polandmet collection for SALE

[Marcin Cimala - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

POLANDMET COLLECTION FOR SALE.
94 specimens from the very first NWA 2427. Many long time ago sold out 
beauties, selected by their unique features like inclusions, crust, CAIs, 
chondrules.


http://www.polandmet.com/_collection.htm



Please take a look. Last chance to buy many old numbers


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Re: [meteorite-list] Old collection Pultusk wanted

[Marcin Cimala - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

I will connect to that question too.
But Im looking bad or ugly or bad and ugly but fresh Pultusk. Need slices 
for medal :)


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Hello Collectors,
some time ago I asked list members about Pultusk meteorite form Krantz 
provenance.
But I am looking for all Pultusk form old collections (museums or old 
dealers/collectors).

If You have such specimen for sale write to my email illae...@gmail.com


All the best
Tomasz Jakubowski
www.collectingmeteorites.com
PTM, IMCA, MetSoc
Managing Editor
meteorites.pwr.wroc.pl





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Re: [meteorite-list] iron meteorite natural color

[Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

Hello,
I have a question.
As we know an iron meteorite, such like Campo del Cielo for example, have 
a black surface.
I have here a deeply rusted Campo, I'm planning to remove rust with a sand 
blasting process.
But with this I will obtain a greysh surface, like naked iron, the same 
color of a slice.
Not really a natural color for the exterior of an iron meteorite and also 
not aestetically pretty, looks too artificial for me.

There is something to do for restore the original black color?
Or it's better to remove the rust with a traditional steel brush, maybe 
with a drill ???


Tips for mechanical or chemical process are welkomme!!!
I can try with the classical NaOh bath, I have also Phosphoric, Citric and 
Oxalic acid :)


Thanks
xx
Francesco


Hah good question Francesco. But what is natural color of meteorite at all ? 
Desert sandblasted NWA is not a real looking meteorite? Should I paint them 
black to be looking like a real meteorites ? Poor Dhofars
This is what Im fighting long time. Strange stereotype that meteorite MUST 
BE BLACK outside, WHY ?


When You like Your girlfrend ? When he smile to You with his pretty face or 
when she put ton of Max Factor chemicals on it??


I have always strange taste, different than most of collectors. For me, if 
specimen have crust must be black or black with rusty patina. If meteorite 
have no more crust like Campo, why to "paint" it to black to looks like 
Sikhote ? Then You will see paint, not Your meteorite. I only can imagine 
what strange things they do to clean Campo and look it like that. LOL


OK now a few tips.
As I understand Your Campo is a complete specimen ? To remove deep rust You 
must use electrochemical cleaning + brush + small hammer. Then You will get 
mostly cleaned meteorite with BLACK remains of rust that will make Your 
meteorite looks REAL.Then heat it and put alot of oil to make it looks fresh 
and oriented :)


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Re: [meteorite-list] Chondrites W0 samples WANTED for research

[Marcin Cimala - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

Just small corrections.
0.1-0.2gram is needed. No more.


Dear meteorite friends.
Our scientists in Poland looking for TINY samples of W0 L, H, LL 
chondrites for their researchs. How tiny ? Just 0.05gram internal 
material. No crust, no troilite just stone matrix. If You have any lose 
pieces or You can just break something from Your specimen and send me You 
can be mentioned in publications. :)

Maybe You can help.

==[My Adress]==
Marcin Cimala
Targoniny 30
43-445 Dziegielow
POLAND
=

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[meteorite-list] Chondrites W0 samples WANTED for research

[Marcin Cimala - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

Dear meteorite friends.
Our scientists in Poland looking for TINY samples of W0 L, H, LL chondrites 
for their researchs. How tiny ? Just 0.05gram internal material. No crust, 
no troilite just stone matrix. If You have any lose pieces or You can just 
break something from Your specimen and send me You can be mentioned in 
publications. :)

Maybe You can help.

==[My Adress]==
Marcin Cimala
Targoniny 30
43-445 Dziegielow
POLAND
=

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[meteorite-list] METEORITES360 presents NWA 7158

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Hello group.

Please take a look at new video from well known Polandmet Studio. This time 
beautifull chondrite LL3 with three different clasts and black inclusion. 
All this in new quality, true UltraHD 4K


And I just started...

https://youtu.be/si_mgspa0wI


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[meteorite-list] Vacuum stress

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Hello
I thinked about something interesting.
Anyone make research on the effects of the vacuum on the condition of the 
specimen ?
Becouse we have rock in space (vacuum), then in only seconds it reach dense 
atmosphere with high air presure. Most meteorites dont have gas vesicles 
inside so maybe this will not make a big difference to the rock material (or 
iron). But what about meteorites like D'Orbigny or Baszkówka where material 
is highly porous ? Maybe this dramatic change of presure from near 0 to 
atmospheric level can do any cracks or help in fragmentation ?




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[meteorite-list] Polandmet is 15 years old :)

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Friends
Time speed up every day and I nearly missed my own anniversary. Looks like 
15 years ago I decided to open my business and become a dealer, not only 
collector. I cant imagine have a better work and more satisfactory.

Work with pieces from space, shows, expeditions, adventures. This is it.

I hope I can do this for my whole life.

If anyone want to catch something from my 15 years old website, I provide 
30% discount on all meteorites + Free shipping

YEAH !
www.PolandMET.com

I wish You good day.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Cutting An Iron

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This list is like big volcano full of shit! Peoples whats wrong with you ?
Why I dont see conversations like this on Facebook ?

So when we all agree that this is CAMPO maybe its time to stop?

My God.

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Just heard back from CML about this, and they are analyzing it.  Time to 
back off from John Pierce and let he and the lab sort it out.  It's none 
of our business right now.






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On 7/2/16 at 12:40 PM, John Pierce via Meteorite-list wrote:


OK, photos.
I'm not the most computer literate person.
I had go create a Photobucket album, and I hope this link works:

http://s744.photobucket.com/user/Lumin9/library/Halo

Please, no need to flame me for cleaning the rock.
I read and considered a lot before proceeding.
Simply my preference with no concern regarding market value.

Found by me personally on our 32-acre property in Southern Oregon.

John Pierce

On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Paul Gessler  wrote:

> Let’s see a picture of this Iron.
> -Paul G
>
>
>
>
>
> ---
> ---
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: John Pierce via Meteorite-list
> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 6:33 PM
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Cutting An Iron
>
>
> Hello All,
>
>
>
> This is my first post here.  I joined recently because I found a lovely
> nickel-iron meteorite, and that has spurred my further interest in this
> subject.  My meteorite has been confirmed as the real thing by staff of 
> the

> Meteorite Lab at Portland State University, who would like to perform
> classification.  It is 11.2 kg, and according to PSU staff, it will be 
> only

> the seventh classified meteorite ever found in the state of Oregon.
>
>
>
> I’ve enjoyed reading these archives, but I haven’t yet been able to 
> find

> answer to my question.
>
>
>
> I’m posting here to ask if anyone has any experience cutting an iron
> meteorite with the CBN blade that is sold by Johnson Brothers Lapidary.
> They advertise it as just the thing for cutting irons.  I’m interested 
> to
> know anything about blade life, rim speed, feed rate, and using plain 
> water
> as a coolant/lubricant.  For cutting the analysis sample, I have 
> machining

> experience and very suitable tools, except for the blade, which I would
> like to be a circular blade.
>
>
>
> I welcome replies here on the forum, or by private email.
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> John
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Cutting An Iron

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John
I was answered Your question becouse You asked, but for me also its 99% 
Campo. Why ?
First of all if its a new find, then WHO and WHEN just cleaned it to the 
pure iron ? Do You know that cleaning THAT WAY You just destroyed Your 
precious specimen and lovered its value? Do You have photo how it looks like 
before it was massacred ? Where did You found it ? Im just curious :)


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Full attack mode?  Really?
Which of you is Mr. Pot and which is Mr. Kettle?


On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 5:43 AM, Michael Farmer 
wrote:


The way you come out in full-on attack mode simply proves to me that your
meteorite is a scam and not just an innocent inquiry.
As Paul said, we have seen this before. I've had people steal meteorites
from another dealer and offer them to me as "new finds" minutes after I 
had

already seen them and tried to buy them. I've had people try to sell me
meteorites by email when the meteorite was sitting on my desk in front of
me.
The scams never end.
We are professionals. Seeing the photo of that Campo is as easy as seeing
a photo of the Mona Lisa. No need for further testing.



Michael Farmer

On Jul 2, 2016, at 11:33 PM, John Pierce  wrote:

What an interesting few responses.  You all certainly know a gazillion
times more about meteorites and about meteorite scams than I know.  Of
these things I know almost nothing, though I do certainly appreciate that
many parts (if not all) of the internet are rife with scams.  I'm sorry
that you have so much anger about it.

But I can't help but wonder why, if it is so obvious that I'm perpetrating
a scam, would the staff at PSU's Cascade Meteorite Lab, (who have had this
meteorite in hand), not voiced this concern?   They actually examined the
rock in person - not just by way of a low res digital photo.  Why would
they have been certain enough to have promised to move the classification
of this meteorite to the very top of their already long queue?  They may 
be

underfunded, but they sure didn't strike me as dumb.  I can't help but
presume they can ID a Campo as readily as you.  Do you think they are
ignorant?  I guess you can presume that I'm also being deceptive about my
contact with them.

I really don't know the answer to that riddle.  It is only on the basis of
their authority that I can even claim to know that this is a real
meteorite.  I will call them again on Tuesday to ask their thoughts on 
this

matter of a Campo scams.  They don't seem to mind at all for me to "waste
their time".

I've never had any connection with law enforcement, although I have no
idea what you think that might imply.  (Are law enforcement people often
untrustworthy?)   I've always been obscure, and I will always probably BE
obscure.  I'm just one of the obscure masses.  So there is no "drifting
back" into obscurity needed.  But I also sure don't need validation from
your group..

I don't think you can find any link to me by Google search my name.  But
since you apparently were curious, you can see my short and non-special
biography by going to QRZ.com  and searching the call
sign K7KEY.  I'm obscure, but I also have nothing to hide.

But my post here has not been fruitless.  I've received a good number of
very considerate direct replies from others offering useful advice and
information.

My regret now is that it appears that it would have been MUCH better to
have asked about cutting an iron meteorite in the abstract.  I was foolish
not to think of this, and I now realize that the excitement of my 
discovery

clouded my judgement.

Happy Independence Day to all in the U.S.!

On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 10:07 PM, Paul Gessler  wrote:


Mr Pierce,

He is being "amazingly rude" because you think we are amazingly naive.
We are not. We have seen this CRAP before many many times and it just
doesn’t fly.
I asked to see a photo of your meteorite precisely because I was a bit
suspicious.
Upon reviewing the photos it is VERY CLEAR that it is another Campo del
Cielo.
So instead of wasting PSU;’s time I will give you the classification
right now.
What you have is :
classification Octahedrite  Group IAB  Composition 92.9% Fe, 6.7% Ni,
0.4% Co
So you see you don’t even have to worry about cutting your precious
hoax.
Simply dissolve back into obscurity where you belong.
No one here cares about your story.

PS,
   I googled your name and...you wouldn’t happen to be a former Law
enforcement officer would you?
just curious

-Paul Gessler






From: John Pierce
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 4:46 PM
To: Michael Farmer
Cc: Paul Gessler ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Cutting An Iron

Wow, Michael Farmer, you are amazingly rude.
Is your rudeness typical of this 

Re: [meteorite-list] Cutting An Iron

[PolandMET via Meteorite-list]

Hi
If You plan to cut that 11kg specimen You propably need to use band saw. Or 
give it to someone who have experience with such big specimens


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Hello All,



This is my first post here.  I joined recently because I found a lovely
nickel-iron meteorite, and that has spurred my further interest in this
subject.  My meteorite has been confirmed as the real thing by staff of the
Meteorite Lab at Portland State University, who would like to perform
classification.  It is 11.2 kg, and according to PSU staff, it will be only
the seventh classified meteorite ever found in the state of Oregon.



I’ve enjoyed reading these archives, but I haven’t yet been able to find
answer to my question.



I’m posting here to ask if anyone has any experience cutting an iron
meteorite with the CBN blade that is sold by Johnson Brothers Lapidary. 
They

advertise it as just the thing for cutting irons.  I’m interested to know
anything about blade life, rim speed, feed rate, and using plain water as a
coolant/lubricant.  For cutting the analysis sample, I have machining
experience and very suitable tools, except for the blade, which I would
like to be a circular blade.



I welcome replies here on the forum, or by private email.



Kind regards,

John







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[meteorite-list] VIDEO - cutting CD graphite nodule on Silver Blade 7

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Hello
This is my longest movie I ever made.
If You have 30min to waste and You can understand my poor english hehe then 
here is how I cut 1.8kg CD graphite nodule on my new saw. Saw, slices even 
my T-shirt is for sale so send me email if You are interested or meet me in 
Ensisheim just in 2 days.

And ofcourse SHARE and COMMENT

https://youtu.be/oS5wJtms5D8

If its not enough, there is another one from cutting Al Haggounia 004 a new 
CK3 with unique inclusion.

Movie is in polish language but Im sure it will be also interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWB35XNqCb8

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[meteorite-list] Gibeon for watches

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Hi
Im looking for gibeon fragment to make dials for watches. Anyone have 
anything suitable ?


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Re: [meteorite-list] Beware of dealing with Fayssal Mezgouri

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Thanks John.
Im not sure how difficult is to recognize fake sword, but recognizing 
meteorites is rather easy (to me). In this case it was my own fault. I 
belived to what he write and didnt look on photos close enough. Specimen was 
too cheap and second it didnt look like 100% diogenite on photos. But 
becouse I bough from him earlier, and I was satisfied with my purchases I 
didnt questioned what he say. This is typical when routine kick Your ass :)


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Dear List,

I have blocked him from the Meteorites group on facebook so that he cannot 
use that as a resources for his scams.  It is a shame that the meteorite 
community continues to be an uncertain place for collectors and merchants 
to use their hard earned funds.


As a collector of antique Japanese swords as well, I will say that the 
amount of fraud I see in the sales of meteorites is considerably less than 
what I see in the sword collecting community.  Perhaps we are doing 
something right that other collecting communities are not.


Hope everyone is having a good week thus far.
Cheers,
John A. Shea
IMCA 3295






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On 4/19/16 at 6:42 AM, PolandMET via Meteorite-list wrote:


Hi list
I have same experienxes. In 2010 I bough from him 1100g surprisingly 
cheap

diogenite and received badly weathered LL6

  helle my friend
  here is the picture of meteorite i have look at the picture and let 
me

know .
  the big one is 1155 gr Diogenite like NWA1877
  kind regards


  Mezgouri Fayssal
  cell +212668693856


I lost 2200$ never get even a gram of weathered L6 as a refund. I send 
this
specimen back to Said Haddany to try to return it to Fayssal but this 
didnt

work so I pick it back and now its classified. Maybe I can get most of my
money back selling it.
There is soo many 10% trusted persons in Morocco so no need to buy
anything from "dealers" like Fayssal.

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>
>
> Dear list members, Please beware of dealing with this Moroccan dealer.
> Five years ago, he cheated me out of $6250.00. I bought what was 
> supposed
> to be a rare meteorite from him only to receive a weathered H5 
> chondrite.

> For four years I tried to no avail to get my money back even after he
> admitted to sending me a weathered H5 instead of the stone I was 
> supposed
> to receive. I even had Aziz Habibi intervene for me to no avail. He 
> made
> promise after promise after promise to return my money. I was even 
> willing
> to take an equal amount of common chondrites instead of the money. If 
> you
> send money to this Fayssal Mezgouri, you may find yourself out of a lot 
> of

> cash. Jack Schrader
>
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Beware of dealing with Fayssal Mezgouri

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Hi list
I have same experienxes. In 2010 I bough from him 1100g surprisingly cheap 
diogenite and received badly weathered LL6


 helle my friend
 here is the picture of meteorite i have look at the picture and let me 
know .

 the big one is 1155 gr Diogenite like NWA1877
 kind regards


 Mezgouri Fayssal
 cell +212668693856


I lost 2200$ never get even a gram of weathered L6 as a refund. I send this 
specimen back to Said Haddany to try to return it to Fayssal but this didnt 
work so I pick it back and now its classified. Maybe I can get most of my 
money back selling it.
There is soo many 10% trusted persons in Morocco so no need to buy 
anything from "dealers" like Fayssal.


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Dear list members, Please beware of dealing with this Moroccan dealer. 
Five years ago, he cheated me out of $6250.00. I bought what was supposed 
to be a rare meteorite from him only to receive a weathered H5 chondrite. 
For four years I tried to no avail to get my money back even after he 
admitted to sending me a weathered H5 instead of the stone I was supposed 
to receive. I even had Aziz Habibi intervene for me to no avail. He made 
promise after promise after promise to return my money. I was even willing 
to take an equal amount of common chondrites instead of the money. If you 
send money to this Fayssal Mezgouri, you may find yourself out of a lot of 
cash. Jack Schrader



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Re: [meteorite-list] MOVIE - Cutting newly aquired CK3 on Silver Blade 7

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0.3-0.4mm blades from ebay
Works great and they are low cost

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Fabulous saw - all it needs is eye protection :)

What saw blade do you use?

Paul Swartz
IMCA 5204
MPOD Web Master
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[meteorite-list] MOVIE - Cutting newly aquired CK3 on Silver Blade 7

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Hello
On Youtube You can watch my new movie about recently aquired CK3 or CK4. I 
filmed whole process from the beginning to the end. It show how my new 
version of Silver Blade works.


Its 20min, polish language only, sorry.

https://youtu.be/NumWnfEeVzQ

Please comment. Move movies soon.

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Re: [meteorite-list] SPACE ROCKS MAGAZINE

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Hi
This not work.
 Items €7,52
 Shipping €12,99
 Tax €4,72
 Total €25,23



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Hi Sergey, Marcin, Zsolt, all,

Just had a thought regards your high shipping prices quoted. Did you
change the currency to your local currency before ordering? I noticed
that in your screenshot you posted Sergey that it was in US dollars.
On the Blurb website you can change the currency and I guess that is
how the shipping is worked out in combination with your address. Try
it and see if it makes a difference?

Cheers

Martin

Martin Goff
www.msg-meteorites.co.uk
IMCA #3387
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On 12 Feb 2016 21:27, "andries goedhart via Meteorite-list"
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:


Hi All,

I had to pay $25.39 incl. shipping and taxes so i find the $37 Sergey has 
to pay really absurd. I am pretty sure my copy came from the Czech 
Republic as well which is closer to Sergey's home than mine.
It is sad that Michael's great magazine might not reach it's full sale 
potential in Europe due to the very high shipping rates.
I gladly payed the $25 but i can understand some people can or will not 
pay almost two times the cost of the magazine for shipping.


I would like to thank Michael and his contributors for the awesome 
magazine they created . I am looking forward to the next issue. I can not 
imagine it being better than this one but i am sure it will be.


Andries Goedhart
IMCA #3525


Verzonden vanaf mijn Samsung-apparaat


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Van: Martin Goff via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Datum: 12-02-2016 19:28 (GMT+01:00)
Aan: Graham Ensor <graham.en...@gmail.com>
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Onderwerp: Re: [meteorite-list] SPACE ROCKS MAGAZINE

Hi all,

The problem as I see it is that Blurb are not just a distributor but
the printer too so it's not just a question of switching companies.
Blurb use different printing and distribution bases according to the
buyers location so not all copies are sent from the US. Copies Sent to
the UK seem to have been sent from the Czech Republic so not sure why
the shipping is so high for you Sergey? The shipping is certainly high
but that is out of Michael's control. All I can say is that the
magazine itself is more than worth the cost given the quality of the
product but it is a shame the shipping cost is putting some people
off.

I am more than happy to get multiple copies ordered and then bring to
Ensisheim for anyone who wants to wait rather than pay shipping. Just
let me know :-)

Just want to give a shout out to Michael Johnson who has put his heart
and soul and many many hours into this project and the end result is
truly excellent. I for one will do everything I can to help and
support him so that this grows and becomes a great resource to the
entire meteorite community. I am sure that Michael would welcome any
help from others too, be that submitting articles and photos, offers
of helping to distribute copies of the magazine or just general
support and encouragement. The magazine is for us all and we need to
support it any way we can. Well done Michael, you've done a great job!
:-)

Cheers

Martin

Martin Goff
www.msg-meteorites.co.uk
IMCA #3387

On 12 Feb 2016 16:17, "Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list"
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
> Great Marcin...that will help the whole project.
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:31 PM, PolandMET via Meteorite-list 
> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

>>
>> Hey
>> I was talking with Michael and we are working on a better solution. Im 
>> ready to be European distributor for next issue. Polish post prices 
>> are much lower than sending each magazine from USA to Europe. I hope 
>> it will work and for same money we could get two issues than one.

>>
>>
>> -[ MARCIN CIMALA ][ +48 793567667 ]-
>> http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
>> http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com
>> [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Marcin,
>>> I get what you're saying. The shipping is expensive. I agree.
>>>
>>> But:
>>> It's a quarterly magazine. Comes out every 3 months. Spending 33.80$ 
>>> once every 3 months averages to about 11.27$ each month. Okay so not 
>>> EXACTLY 10$

>>>
>>> I spent 14$ last night to go to a movie for just two hours of 
>>> entertainment. It may not be worth it to someone who never read the 
>>> Deadpool comics but it was worth it to me. :-)

>>>
>>>

Re: [meteorite-list] SPACE ROCKS MAGAZINE

[PolandMET via Meteorite-list]

Bigjohn are You kidding me? Where You have 10$ ?
Check how much it cost myself to deliver it to Poland, for one...
 Items US $9.99
 Shipping US $17.49
 Tax US $6.32
 Total US $33.80

I'm very interested to own every copy of this new excellent magazine, but 
34$ per issue ?  No way. Im verry unhappy. Maybe Michael can change 
distribution to something else. I dont know.


-[ MARCIN CIMALA ][ +48 793567667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
http://www.PolandMET.com   marcin(at)polandmet.com
[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]






This is a quarterly magazine.  Published every three months and costing 
30$ for international readers means you spend roughly ten bucks a month to 
read it.  Not sure that's worth griping over personally.  Yes, it's 
basically double what the US readers are spending, but it's worth it for a 
good publication.  I say try it once and see if you like what you read. 
Decide from there if it's worth your 10$ a month.

Cheers.


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On 2/11/16 at 4:37 PM, cbo via Meteorite-list wrote:


I concour with Sergey. Very expensive the shipping fee to Europe:(

9.99USD Magazine with over 20USD shipping fee? Why?



Regrads!

Zsolt

Hungary

IMCA#6251



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On Behalf Of Michael Johnson via Meteorite-list

Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 12:08 AM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] SPACE ROCKS MAGAZINE



Hi, I'm still getting questions where to order the February 2016 issue of 
SPACE ROCKS MAGAZINE so here again is the link. If you would like to 
submit an article, ad, or have any questions please contact me at the 
following address:


spacerocksmagaz...@gmail.com


http://www.blurb.com/b/6862308-space-rocks



Regards,

Michael Johnson

Editor-in-Chief

SPACE ROCKS MAGAZINE

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Re: [meteorite-list] SPACE ROCKS MAGAZINE

[PolandMET via Meteorite-list]

Hey
I was talking with Michael and we are working on a better solution. Im ready 
to be European distributor for next issue. Polish post prices are much lower 
than sending each magazine from USA to Europe. I hope it will work and for 
same money we could get two issues than one.


-[ MARCIN CIMALA ][ +48 793567667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
http://www.PolandMET.com   marcin(at)polandmet.com
[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]





Marcin,
I get what you're saying.  The shipping is expensive.  I agree.

But:
It's a quarterly magazine. Comes out every 3 months.  Spending 33.80$ once 
every 3 months averages to about 11.27$ each month.  Okay so not EXACTLY 
10$


I spent 14$ last night to go to a movie for just two hours of 
entertainment.  It may not be worth it to someone who never read the 
Deadpool comics but it was worth it to me. :-)


It costs me 3.50$ a day to have the latte I like to drink most mornings. 
If I do that six times a week that's 21$ a week, and 84$ a month.  It may 
not be worth it to someone who doesn't like coffee, but it's worth it to 
me.


My point is, 33.80$ is really not alot of money to pay once every three 
months for a high quality magazine if you really do enjoy the content.


Hope you are doing good my friend.
Cheers,
John


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On 2/12/16 at 5:58 AM, PolandMET via Meteorite-list wrote:


Bigjohn are You kidding me? Where You have 10$ ?
Check how much it cost myself to deliver it to Poland, for one...
  Items US $9.99
  Shipping US $17.49
  Tax US $6.32
  Total US $33.80

I'm very interested to own every copy of this new excellent magazine, but
34$ per issue ?  No way. Im verry unhappy. Maybe Michael can change
distribution to something else. I dont know.

-[ MARCIN CIMALA ][ +48 793567667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
http://www.PolandMET.com   marcin(at)polandmet.com
[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]






> This is a quarterly magazine.  Published every three months and costing
> 30$ for international readers means you spend roughly ten bucks a month 
> to

> read it.  Not sure that's worth griping over personally.  Yes, it's
> basically double what the US readers are spending, but it's worth it 
> for a

> good publication.  I say try it once and see if you like what you read.
> Decide from there if it's worth your 10$ a month.
> Cheers.
>
>
> Sent using the mail.com mail app
>
> On 2/11/16 at 4:37 PM, cbo via Meteorite-list wrote:
>
>> I concour with Sergey. Very expensive the shipping fee to Europe:(
>>
>> 9.99USD Magazine with over 20USD shipping fee? Why?
>>
>>
>>
>> Regrads!
>>
>> Zsolt
>>
>> Hungary
>>
>> IMCA#6251
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Meteorite-list 
>> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]

>> On Behalf Of Michael Johnson via Meteorite-list
>> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 12:08 AM
>> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>> Subject: [meteorite-list] SPACE ROCKS MAGAZINE
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi, I'm still getting questions where to order the February 2016 issue 
>> of

>> SPACE ROCKS MAGAZINE so here again is the link. If you would like to
>> submit an article, ad, or have any questions please contact me at the
>> following address:
>>
>> spacerocksmagaz...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>> http://www.blurb.com/b/6862308-space-rocks
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Michael Johnson
>>
>> Editor-in-Chief
>>
>> SPACE ROCKS MAGAZINE
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone6
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Sent from My iPhone

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[meteorite-list] World largest urelite

[PolandMET via Meteorite-list]

Hello
Some of us have winter right now. Rainy weather, cold hands and sleepy eyes.
Here is something to wake You up better than double espresso.

I finished my first movie for new project Meteoryty.pl. Simple educational 
website about meteorites in polish language. No more text, no more photos, 
only videos explaining what meteorites are. Next one will be about big 
Pultusk specimen found recently. Work in progress.


To start with something big I decided to show my incredible find from last 
Oman desert trip. This is from THAT last trip if You know what I mean. Sorry 
its in polish language only.


Enjoy and comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnTVT84d4qs

Whoever working still with omanis, please take care of it and classify. 
Otherwise authorities will change it into street paving. They alredy tryed 
hard.


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http://www.PolandMET.com   marcin(at)polandmet.com
[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]





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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village:Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars AfterBlack Stones From Space Rain Down

[PolandMET via Meteorite-list]

Hello
Friends everyone buy what he want and what he can pay. Bingol is great fresh 
meteorite with excellent crust. For sure worth to buy. But as history show, 
in a few months there will be another super cool new fall, maybe diogenite 
and what will happend with Bingol ? It will be forgotten. Like first Chellys 
sold for hundreds per gram it turned to 5/g now. Same with Tissint and may 
other. Mike make great sales becouse everyone is crazy on Bingol now. When 
something new will fall, marker crazynes will go to the new material.


-[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
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You didn't buy that Chelyabinsk from me, I never sold for that price. And 
I'm sorry, but a 10,000 ton impactor flooded the market with more material 
than the market could consume. Classic supply and demand. Don't worry 
about it. Since you were able to take advantage of Steve's imbecile 
behavior of selling Bingol at 1/3 of what he paid me, or not, don't know 
if he cancelled that deal, if so you got a good price. If not, then go buy 
NWA chondrites, they're nice and cheap.

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 15, 2015, at 8:34 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
 wrote:


Chelyabinsk was an extraordinary event too.  I spent 50$/g on my first 
specimens of it and now they sell for 5$/g from IMCA sellers on the good 
old fashioned irrelevent Ebay. ;-)


Extraordinary event or no, that doesn't mean a piece of Bingol sold for 
150$/g today won't show up on Ebay a year from now for less than half 
that price.


G'night all.  Have fun collecting. :-)

John




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On 11/15/15 at 11:08 PM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list wrote:

I'm simply shocked at the seeming lack of knowledge I'm seeing lately. 
Between the people who still think eBay is relevant to the fact that a 
Howardite fall seems blasé compared to incredible Morasko. I am 
flabbergasted that the new collectors/dealers see clueless as to exactly 
what an extraordinary even this was.  I didn't just go to a damned war 
zone lightly. But it's a chance of a lifetime so I took the risks. Not 
alone I might add. But hey, don't worry, some campitos are up for grabs 
tonight on eBay:)
Sorry guys, not at all impugning small collectors. I spent the time to 
package and ship $20 orders from Europe! In one box a $20 piece, the 
next box a $20,000 piece. Sounds to me like I take care of my customers, 
down to the smallest order.


Michael Farmer

Sent from my iPad


On Nov 15, 2015, at 7:24 PM, Gmail  wrote:

Michael,

Seriously! John is a collector and enthusiastic about meteorites. Maybe 
you have bought and sold $150k of Bingol, but that doesn't give you the 
right to insult people. Why not keep your personal business dealings to 
yourself? You work hard for your living, you may even be the top 
grossing dealer on this planet, but no need to tell everyone. You have 
a great reputation until you say things like this. There is room for 
all kinds of collectors and, dare I say, even dealers. I personally 
felt John's comments engendered some great discussions and provided 
unique insights likely shared by others. Clearly, based on my own 
response, I did not agree with John, but I never felt the need to 
insult him.


Oh well, to each his own.

Mendy Ouzillou

On Nov 15, 2015, at 8:44 PM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list 
 wrote:


Who is this? A new dealer?
Comparing a howardite fall to Morasko? A frigging rotten old iron that 
can be found by the ton? Identical to campo? Please, these people need 
to go find a meteorite Walmart. Leave the actual good stuff to the 
professionals?
I've already bought and sold more than $150,000 in Bingöl. And eBay is 
not the place it sells.

Good luck guys. Bottom feeders.


Michael Farmer

On Nov 15, 2015, at 2:50 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list 
 wrote:


Hi John,

I completely understand what you mean, as I have made a great living
selling meteorites of all types over the last 18 years.

However, history has proven that while most meteorites do go up in
value over time - rare witnessed falls almost always appreciate in
value dramatically.

Which explains why so many collectors moving to collecting only falls 
now days.





On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list
 wrote:

Ruben,
For 450$ you can get a 3g piece of Bingol (that you need a loop to 
really enjoy) or you can get a 177g etched slice of Morasko that 
looks phenomenal in your collection.


Added to this, that Bingol piece really isn't any harder to find for 
the buyer than Morasko, and in the long run will probably be worth 
50-75% of 

[meteorite-list] MEGA AD - ELEVEN types 3, CV3, L7, MESO, Eucrite, CK4

[PolandMET via Meteorite-list]

Dear Meteorite-list members
After many days of hard work I finished massive page update.
At www.polandmet.com 
You can find meteorites listed below



. NWA 7167 [CK4] 
. NWA 7157 [L7] 
. NWA 7160 [LL3.7] 
. NWA 7161 [L3] 
. NWA 7162 [L3.2] 
. NWA 7163 [LL3] 
. NWA 7165 [L3.3] 
. NWA 7170 [L3] 
. NWA 8303 [L3.6] 
. NWA 8305 [LL3.5] 
. NWA 8323 [CV3]
. NWA 8647 [EUC] 
. NWA 8741 [MESO] 
. NWA 10295 [L3.5] 
. NWA 10296 [L3.15] 
. NWA 10298 [L3.2] 



NWA 10297 L3 will be available soon 



Some of them with rare types, some other beautifull with unique matrix.
Check them out.
I wish You all wonderfull weekend.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Unusual phenomen during etching iron meteorites

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Hello Marcin,

Very unusual to see. With no knowledge on this subject, i'll try at a 
Possible

solution (no pun intended)...

If, if, as you say, all slices were prepared the same and no other coating 
was
left on on the piece(s) that wouldn't take the etch---is it Possible that 
they may
have somehow become electomagnetically charged (preventing the chemical 
bond)
and the piece you used to scratch the object piece broke/relieved this 
charge

in order for the solution to begin its work??

Mirko?

All best, John



Yes this can be one reasonable explanation. But this is like You put finger 
into the fire  and nothing happend :)

Looks like Force is with me and my slices!

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- Original Message - 
From: PolandMET via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 4:57 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Unusual phenomen during etching iron meteorites


Dear meteorite friends.
Tooday I etched some Maslyanino slices and beetween 10 of them, two slices
do not want start etching. I was able to capture this very strange 
phenomen

with my macro lens. I cant explain this. Maybe someone can ?

Let me explain whats going on here.
Normaly, when slice is placed in etching solution, etching starts
immediately in the same second. But rarely, I can keep slice even 5 or 10
minutes without any signs of etching. On this video, there is one of 10
slices of Maslyanino that comes from same slice divided to smaller
specimens, so material was prepared 100% the same. Only two of this 10
slices can't be etched in normal way. They need a starter. This mean I 
need

to scratch them with other slice to start etching. This is visible at 1:40
when I finally use correct slice to start etch reaction. You can see then
how solution move from the place of scratch in all direction and etching
starts immediatelly.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd9s56NuTVQfeature=youtu.be

-[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
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http://www.PolandMET.com   marcin(at)polandmet.com
http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM: +48 (793) 567667
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[meteorite-list] Unusual phenomen during etching iron meteorites

[PolandMET via Meteorite-list]

Dear meteorite friends.
Tooday I etched some Maslyanino slices and beetween 10 of them, two slices 
do not want start etching. I was able to capture this very strange phenomen 
with my macro lens. I cant explain this. Maybe someone can ?


Let me explain whats going on here.
Normaly, when slice is placed in etching solution, etching starts 
immediately in the same second. But rarely, I can keep slice even 5 or 10 
minutes without any signs of etching. On this video, there is one of 10 
slices of Maslyanino that comes from same slice divided to smaller 
specimens, so material was prepared 100% the same. Only two of this 10 
slices can't be etched in normal way. They need a starter. This mean I need 
to scratch them with other slice to start etching. This is visible at 1:40 
when I finally use correct slice to start etch reaction. You can see then 
how solution move from the place of scratch in all direction and etching 
starts immediatelly.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd9s56NuTVQfeature=youtu.be

-[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
http://www.PolandMET.com   marcin(at)polandmet.com
http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM: +48 (793) 567667
[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]




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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

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I rather expected 20kg lunar or mars :P

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Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: NWA 10001

Contributed by: Hanno Strufe

http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=02/18/2015
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Re: [meteorite-list] M_009.

[PolandMET via Meteorite-list]

Robert, if You have cat, give it to him :)
I have the same eucrite so we can do one classification if You like.
I found them in 2004 in morocco personaly so I have GPS data and we can 
assign a name.

http://www.polandmet.com/ebay/P1290901.JPG


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[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]







Good afternoon All,
Requesting your help in getting additional information about a specimen 
which has a label with this:   M 009.  ??

(Please see links to images of this label.)

http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/misplaced/m_009_a.jpg

http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/misplaced/m_009_b.jpg
http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/misplaced/m_009_c.jpg
http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/misplaced/m_009_d.jpg

The specimen is 49.14g and appears to be a weathered desert rock with 
lichens growing on it,
and if it actually is a meteorite, it looks like it could be an 
unbrecciated eucrite,

The label doesn't appear to be recently made and looks legit.

Comments please,
Bob V.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Met Bulletin Update - 43 New Approvals and 1 Lunar (The Gobi Desert Opens Up)

[PolandMET via Meteorite-list]

Agreed.  I noticed that.  I just reported what I saw in the Bulletin
was far as assigning names goes.  NonCom said 43 meteorites, but it
readily apparent it is the same meteorite.  This is similar to what we
see with the various Antarctic programs - each tiny fragment gets it's
own catalog number.  I wonder how many different Antarctic meteorites
there actually are, once pairings are ruled out of the overall count?
Does anyone know?


Hi
Mike, but antarctic material is found NOT in the place of fall (mostly) They 
was moved by ice so any visual pairing or becouse they was found in the same 
place will not work.


But I can understand them. They found one meteorite so that play with every 
tiny chondrule. They have fun :)


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If one looks around a map of the world, there are known deserts (hot
and cold) of plentiful recoveries - Atacama, Sahara, Mojave, Kalahari,
and SW USA dry lake beds.  All are known and well-hunted.  Of the
remaining deserts (like the Gobi), hunting has been limited.  Given
that foreigners had very limited access to the Gobi and Chinese law
forbids unapproved exportation, it seems like the Gobi would be a
prime candidate for recoveries.

There will never be another gold rush of meteorites on the scale
that the Sahara provided - it was a unique set of circumstances
involving geography, legalities, and timing.  The Gobi might be packed
with unrecovered meteorites - the tip of the iceberg is just now being
exposed...or not.

Just like Antarctica and NWA - the pairing system has yet to be
refined to account for large numbers of individual fragments that are
paired.

Best regards and Happy Huntings,

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On 11/23/14, Anne Black impact...@aol.com wrote:

No,
Apologies to all members of the Nom.Comm who might be reading the Met
List, but no, they did not find 41 meteorites in the Gobi, they found
41 Fragments of ONE meteorite.
Just read the descriptions, and they are all identical:  found within
48 hours, in an area of less than 4 square kilometers, all of them L5,
S=5 and W=2, almost identical composition. No, 41 fragments of 1
meteorite.

Sorry, this is a blatant example of a pairing system that is not
working.
All buying of ... You know the rest.


Anne M. Black
www.IMPACTIKA.com
impact...@aol.com


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Subject: [meteorite-list] Met Bulletin Update - 43 New Approvals and 1
Lunar (The Gobi Desert Opens Up)


Hi Bulletin Watchers,

Well, some of us had wondered in the past : Is there another untapped
concentration of meteorites waiting to be found outside of NWA and
Antarctica.  Some (including myself) postulated that the Gobi desert
was a possibility.  In recent times, we are seeing more meteorites
coming out of the Gobi.  While these may never surface on the private
market (or at least to the degree that NWA has), it appears the Gobi
meteorites are there and are being recovered in increasing numbers.

There are 43 new approvals - most are OC's from China and the Gobi.
There is also an iron from Brazil and 4 new meteorites from the NWA
DCA, including a lunar.

Link :
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=sfor=namesants=falls=valids=stype=containslrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Allsrt=namecateg=Allmblist=Allrect=phot=snew=2pnt=Normal%20tabledr=page=0

Best regards and Happy Huntings,

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Re: [meteorite-list] MASSSIVE Russian Event Asteroid? 14NOV2014

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Hi
We all like to have Chellyabinsk x10 ofcourse but my first feeling was 
nuclear explosion. Also there seems to be fog or dense clouds so the whole 
flash will be false.

But yes, this could be just big explosion in factory.

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I think some kind of explosion, aircraft or chemical plant. Meteor would be 
faster and move. This was something else I think.



Michael Farmer

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List,
What ever it was you will not want to miss these videos!
http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2014/11/russia-super-bolide-asteroid-strike.html

Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay seller guarantees this.....

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Hi
Its somehow funny but, really, we will discuss every idiotic rock fraud from 
ebay here ?

Its boring...

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.So it MUST be a Meteorite!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LARGE-METEORITE-100-GUARANTEED-AUTHENTIC-/251684361016?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3a998e9338

The quoted description below.

YOU ARE BIDDING ON THIS NEAT METEORITE.  WE PURCHASED IT FROM A
FRIEND WHO'S FATHER REMEMBERS A METEOR SHOWER AND FIRE WHEN HE WAS A
SMALL BOY IN THE 1930'S/1940'S, THEN DIGGING THIS UP LATER IN THE
EARLY 1970'S AT HIS SAME RESIDENCE IN GREEN LANE, PA.  AT THAT TIME
THEY TOOK IT TO A LOCAL UNIVERSITY AND HAD IT AUTHENTICATED, THE
UNIVERSITY ASKED FOR IT TO BE DONATED BUT THEY DECLINED.  THE
PAPERWORK HAS SINCE BEEN LOST AND HE HAS PASSED ON.  WE HAD SOMEONE
CHECK IT AND IT WAS FOUND TO BE HIGHLY DENSE, A LITTLE OVER 2 LBS, FOR
THE SIZE AND THAT IT WAS MAGNETIC.  MEASURES APPROX. 3 1/2 X 3 3/4 X
3 1/4.  WE GUARANTEE THIS TO BE AUTHENTIC.  IT'S A NEAT PIECE OF
HISTORY, SEVERAL THOUSAND YEARS OLD AND SOMETHING FROM OUTER SPACE,
WHICH FEW OF US WILL EVERY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO OWN.







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Re: [meteorite-list] Aziz habibi and his bad behavior

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Hi
Thats all is very sad my friends.
Small business mean small money and friends everywhere.
Big business means big money and enemy everywhere.
Then I dont want to be rich.
Can we comeback to meteorites ?

For this very interesting fights, insults, regrets and accusations best will 
be private group on facebook


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Hi ,
Aziz. your last email contains a lot of lie as always and here is my 
reply:

Lets start by this 36kg Taza that you said that is stolen and i buy it
just  at 3cent , do you know that i bought it from Mohamed Sbaai ?and
i give him  check at 175000Dhs for payement wish is 21k $? So you
complaint Sbaai that he is stole this meteorite??? even he is your
freind ?what a mess
By the way you know that i sold you  an 5kg Taza with nice sheap at
just 0.75$ not at 1$to 1.5 $ as you said and you still owe me  3000dhs
that you dont want to give it to me even you are rich as you did with
a lot of poor nomads here and every one know you right now ,if you did
not pay cash you will not take material even with check ..you know
what people i mean if you want i can be more clear
If you want to give advices to others  please start by yourself ,there
is a big  differences betwen your words and your behaviors
Now what about greddy you said .you know many times you closed deals
with your clients and when you have offer more you sold ,even deal
closed with one else first and just for add an infos to you ,if you
remind that i was sold 2125g shergotite and after close deal i had
offer more than the first one  at 20$ but i did not accepte because am
honest and i can not betray anyone and am not greedy
Aziz
Try to clean your reputation here first with poor nomads  you told
them that Tissint is just a carbonaceous and BB is just a CK ,what
about the poor nomad who sell his 1kg find of tissint at 3$ and when
he saw his freinds sold their pieces at 150$ and 200$ he become now
crazy ,just do somthing good in your life and go help his children
More things in other emails.

Man!! A blind can not judge colours

2014-10-05 9:01 GMT+02:00 rachid chaoui chaouirachi...@gmail.com:

Hi ,
Aziz. your last email contains a lot of lie as always and here is my 
reply:
Lets start by this 36kg Taza that you said that is stolen and i buy it 
just
at 3cent , do you know that i bought it from Mohamed Sbaai ?and i give 
him
check at 175000Dhs for payement wish is 21k $? So you complaint Sbaai 
that

he is stole this meteorite??? even he is your freind ?what a mess
By the way you know that i sold you  an 5kg Taza with nice sheap at just
0.75$ not at 1$to 1.5 $ as you said and you still owe me  3000dhs that 
you
dont want to give it to me even you are rich as you did with a lot of 
poor

nomads here and every one know you right now ,if you did not pay cash you
will not take material even with check ..you know what people i mean if 
you

want i can be more clear
If you want to give advices to others  please start by yourself ,there is 
a

big  differences betwen your words and your behaviors
Now what about greddy you said .you know many times you closed deals with
your clients and when you have offer more you sold ,even deal closed with
one else first and just for add an infos to you ,if you remind that i was
sold 2125g shergotite and after close deal i had offer more than the 
first

one  at 20$ but i did not accepte because am honest and i can not betray
anyone and am not greedy
Aziz
Try to clean your reputation here first with poor nomads  you told them 
that

Tissint is just a carbonaceous and BB is just a CK ,what about the poor
nomad who sell his 1kg find of tissint at 3$ and when he saw his freinds
sold their pieces at 150$ and 200$ he become now crazy ,just do somthing
good in your life and go help his children
More things in other emails.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Met Bulletin Update : New Type Classification (E-Melt)

[PolandMET via Meteorite-list]

Hi
Its just Enstatite Impact Melt Breccia ?

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Hi Bulletin Watchers,

437 meteorites from previous NIPR (Japan) expeditions to Antarctic
have been approved for the Met Bulletin today. Buried in the hundreds
of small OC's is an apparent new classification of E-Melt. This is the
first and only meteorite classified as E-Melt. Frustrated
Type-Collectors, please meet Asuka 12057.

Link : http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=60054

Best regards and happy huntings,

MikeG



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[meteorite-list] NWA 8251 LODRANITE slices + complete specimen, MAIN MASS AD FREE :)

[PolandMET]

NWA 8251
Unique Lodranite Breccia

Amazing 68g complete specimen with 9mm wide clinopyrocene crystal. 
Also several other slices and endpieces for sale. 
MAIN MASS endpiece 219g + complete specimen 211g!


http://www.polandmet.com/_nwa8251.htm

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Re: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite

[PolandMET]

Hello
Great storry but dont You think that this object looks strange  ?
Check 5:17 where is the closeup. Maybe its just camera resolution but this 
dont have color and shape of meteorite.


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Hmm. Just looks like someone packed a rock in their canopy, either 
accidentally or on purpose and it popped out when the chute unfurled. (Or 
could just be be a 4114)



Odds of it happening, massive, odds of the rock being just the right size 
to show up on camera - massive, odds, of the rock being nicely 50% fusion 
crusted to make it look more like a meteorite - massive, and the grey 
interior facing the camera nicely-  massive most of the way through the 
shot- massive.


Occam's razor says..

Mark

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Sent: 03 April 2014 15:29
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite


   Just saw this video. Not sure I buy it. What do you all think?

http://www.nrk.no/viten/skydiver-nearly-struck-by-meteorite-1.11646757

Regards!

Tom

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[meteorite-list] NOAD NOSALE - NWA8251 Lodranite video.

[PolandMET]

NWA8251 Lodranite video.
http://youtu.be/qno5vJL0nms

Sorry for low quality. Need new camera, this one is propably used too long. 
Need something PRO FULL HD.




But I hope You still enjoy it.


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Re: [meteorite-list] NOAD NOSALE - NWA8251 Lodranite video.

[PolandMET]

Wow, those green inclusions are wicked!  If all I saw was the cut face
in the video I would have guessed L chondrite!

Michael in so. Cal.


Correct Michael.
When I first time take it to hand in Morocco after seeing the table full of 
all meteorite types I say bl, what a crappy sand blasted chondrite. Then 
I spot the green crystals in the sun and big 1000Wat  bulp lit over my head 
:P

I didnt expect this what I have seen.
Ofcourse imediatelly  I start thinking about Katol green grystals but here 
they are huuuge.
The only problem is that its very difficult to do any polish on slices 
becouse material is patrialy hard (dark) and very soft (yelow) thats why not 
all clinopyroxene crystals can be well visible.


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On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Ruben Garcia rubengarcia85...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Marcin,

I think the video look really good, but I still like the photo on your
site better.

The green inclusions really pop on this page.
http://www.polandmet.com/gfx_nwa8251/002.htm

On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:12 PM, PolandMET mar...@polandmet.com wrote:

NWA8251 Lodranite video.
http://youtu.be/qno5vJL0nms

Sorry for low quality. Need new camera, this one is propably used too 
long.

Need something PRO FULL HD.



But I hope You still enjoy it.


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Re: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom, an Ambassador?

[PolandMET]

Hmm what about $1 from every bullshit posted to the list ?
MC


Wow, Michael Farmer and Anne Black agree on something Hell is a
bit cooler today!  : )

On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com 
wrote:
Why do we have to waste time with this again after a decade? Giant fall 
two weeks ago in South Korea and like 3 posts about it.

Some idiotic old crap and the lost goes wild.
Michael Farmer

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 2, 2014, at 2:54 PM, Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net wrote:

Hi Ruben and all,

   I have been working on a site that will have approximately
48 pages of Proud Tom shenanigans. Those who don't know who
He was or what he did can take a look see. Those who enjoyed
Him can re-live some of what he did and those who did not
Enjoy him are invited to not visit the site.

   While everyone has differing tastes I have never understood
Why one would subject themselves to things they don't like. I would
Never go to a 3 Stooges movie and then criticize it - any more than
I would eat black licorice and criticize it. I just avoid them both.

   I am glad some people enjoy the 3 Stooges and black licorice.
Good for them. I will pass, thank you.

   Michael


On 4/2/14 2:23 PM, Ruben Garcia rubengarcia85...@gmail.com wrote:

Meteorite Maniacs,

Since I brought up this topic a few weeks ago I've been inundated with
questions and comments that range from, Who was he? to I hated that
era.

However, today I've received an anonymous email that proves to some
small degree that in 2004 Proud Tom was officially recognized as an
esteemed gentleman and an ambassador.

The document speaks for it's self
http://www.mrmeteorite.com/proudtom.htm

I've also received via email from several list members a catalog of
some of Proud Toms greatest hits.
If there is interest I may release some of his written antics page by
page on my website.

Come on he was funny, wasn't he?



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Re: [meteorite-list] New paid Ad program for the mailing list - starts 4/7/2014

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Hello
Its that prima aprylis  ?
The only disturbing ADs here (if exclude fees free spam) are the Weekly ebay 
sales ending at bla bla bla. If I want to buy on ebay I can look there at 
any time. All other ADs include new available material its part of our 
hobby.

So I move to Facebook then

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All good points shawn.

An obvious flagrant ad is an ad, but 50% of the posts on this forum are to 
do with finding/getting/trading material, that's kinda the whole point of 
the hobby!


I fully support Art's idea, but to me it must be restricted to clear and 
obvious adverts, getting banned for posting a wanted ad, or referring to 
material bought from a dealer, will just result in no-one being left here!


If you flick through a magazine, it is usually obvious which is an ad, and 
which is an article, so maybe it will pan out through common sense, I guess 
we will see, the metlist with either prosper or fail!


As you rightly say, what's actually wrong with meteorite Ads anyway? I'd 
rather see 10 ads for meteoritic material than one more bl**dy Proud Tom 
diatribe!!




Regards,
Mark



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Sent: 01 April 2014 05:28
To: Ruben Garcia; Meteorite Central
Subject: [meteorite-list] New paid Ad program for the mailing list - starts 
4/7/2014


Ruben and Lister

You do bring up a good point Ruben. That is a grey area and I have seen a 
few members do it and say look at this new meteorite I have and when you go 
to there website they have items listed for sale of that new fall or 
meteorite. Also, I have seen members say well if you want to see a good 
sample of this meteorite you can look at my website and they give a link to 
there website which is a dealer website in meteorite posts. To me that seems 
like advertising. I have also seen when people are talking about thin 
sections and some people say, hey if you want to see some good sample go to 
my dealer website. I see that happen a lot and think if ads are going to be 
charged on here, that also should be constituted as an AD? What about 
Trades? is that an AD or wanted post and someone posts their website?


One other point I like to ask, you say less AD will be better for dealers 
and list members? Well I didn't know the AD on here were a big problem. I 
thought the arguing and the nonsensical topics was disrupting the website. 
Also $8 an AD to the main deals is nothing, but for the ones that struggle 
with money wont be able to pay that and post an AD. I guess it will be 
better for some dealers, because there will be less competition advertising 
on here.


Shawn Alan
IMCA 1633
ebay store
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[meteorite-list] Large update LOD, CV3, DIO, CM2, IIIAB, LL6, L6, AD

[PolandMET]

http://www.polandmet.com/

. Dhofar 1766 [LUNAR] - planetary material
. NWA 6565 [IIIAB] - Large full slices
. NWA 8251 [LOD] - New beautifull, fresh lodranite
. NWA 8321 [DIO] - Beautifull unpaired achondrite
. NWA 8322 [LL6] - fresh slices
. NWA 8323 [CV3] - full slices
. NWA 8325 [L6] - fresh slices
. NWA 8326 [DIO] - crusted complete specimens
. NWA 8327 [LL5] - super fresh meteorite
. Taza [Ungrouped ] - two large specimens, natural surface
. Itqiy [EH7-an] - two new thin slices
. JBILET WINSELWAN [CM2] - lots of complete specimens

. THIN SECTIONS - 30 new thin sections
Lodranite, Gao-Guenie IMB, Gresia, many type 3, CR6

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Re: [meteorite-list] Photos of Dr. Laurence Garvie and Myself teaching meteorite basics.

[PolandMET]

Thank you, this is helpful.

Now for another question:
Is the owner of a page, NASA in that particular case, able to clean up, 
so to speak, his page, and delete anything he/she does not want associated 
with him/her?


For instance, if I had a Facebook page I would not want to see posts by 
some of our most famous crack-pots tacked on it. Could I erase them and 
still have a public page?  I suppose my question boils down to: How much 
control does one have over a Facebook page?


Dear Anne
You have full controll of Your page. You can hide or errase posts, coments, 
remove members. Everything that is necesary to take control of Your personal 
profile or group. You can let others post on Your page or limit it only for 
Your posts, so I think its enough.
I have more than 300 members on my Polandmet group and never have any 
problems with nasty coments, spam or bad behavior. And I accept anyone who 
want to join my group and follow my news.

Nothing to worry

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Anne M. Black
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impact...@aol.com


-Original Message-
From: Galactic Stone  Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com
To: Anne Black impact...@aol.com
Cc: agee a...@unm.edu; rubengarcia85382 rubengarcia85...@gmail.com; 
Meteorite-list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 7:33 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Photos of Dr. Laurence Garvie and Myself 
teaching meteorite basics.



Hi Anne and List,

Any Facebook page (personal or institutional) that is set on public
is visible to the entire world (including most search engines).
Anyone can view a public FB page, whether that person is a FB member
or not.  However, if a privacy settings of that page are set to
friends only, then only a FB member who is also a friend can see
that page or photo.

That is why NASA's page is visible to anyone, member or not.

Ruben's photos were likely set to friends only and therefore you
would need to be both a FB member and on Ruben's approved list of
friends.  Such links will appear broken or blocked if clicked by a
non-member.

Anne, you can filter out the trash by looking for a link near the top
of the postings section on the NASA page (or any institutional page).
You will see a little drop-down link with the options of see posts by
page and see posts by everyone (exact syntax may vary slightly).
Click on see posts by page and you will see the official posts by
page administrators.  Otherwise, you see posts by every Tom, Dick, and
Harry - which greatly increases the noise to signal ratio.

Best regards,

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On 3/14/14, Anne Black impact...@aol.com wrote:

I cannot see Ruben's page either. And here is what I don't understand:

A few weeks ago someone posted a link to NASA's Facebook page, I was
glad of that because I could finally look at a professionally done and
monitored page and see what Facebook could really be like when well
done. Well, I looked at NASA's page at length, and I was very
disappointed by the amount of garbage posted there (idiotic comments,
crazy theories, and more), but at least I could read it. And I can

also

read Meteorite-Exchange's page (much cleaner, how do you do that

Paul?).


But I cannot read Ruben's page. Why not?


Anne M. Black
www.IMPACTIKA.com
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-Original Message-
From: Carl Agee a...@unm.edu
To: Ruben Garcia rubengarcia85...@gmail.com
Cc: Meteorite-list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 6:52 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Photos of Dr. Laurence Garvie and Myself
teaching meteorite basics.


Ruben,
Those who cannot see it may not be FB friends with you. You can set
permissions for everyone.

Carl
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Carl B. Agee
Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics
Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences
MSC03 2050
University of New Mexico
Albuquerque NM 87131-1126

Tel: (505) 750-7172
Fax: (505) 277-3577
Email: a...@unm.edu
http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/



On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Ruben Garcia
rubengarcia85...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all,

Not sure why some of you can't see this.   Maybe someone can let
me know what I did wrong?

On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 11:41 PM, Ruben Garcia
rubengarcia85...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all,

Dr Garvie and myself just returned from teaching meteorite basics to

a

room full of Rock Hounds.

Hopefully (since my settings are public) everyone will be able to

see this.


Here's a link

Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid

[PolandMET]

And lets keep The Olde Liste that Art Jones has kindly provided all 
these years going and flourishing.

Yes, let's do that!
Facebook is a great resource, but it will never replace the 
Met-List.
I agree! Serious meteorite-related discussions and exchange require texts, 
no 'thumbs up' !

Quality information about meteorites belongs HERE first!
Best regards
Martin


So..
New classified interesting and rare meteorite anoucement is quality 
information or its spam ? I have feeling that its spam and will be banned or 
limited.


Looks like till 31 march I can send email to the list like this:
I have new classified CK5 NWA 8214 for sale
but from 1st aprill...
I have new classified CK5 NWA 8214 in my collection

Is that correct ? :)

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Gesendet: Montag, 10. März 2014 um 21:39 Uhr
Von: Galactic Stone  Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com
An: Bob Loeffler bloeff...@peaktopeak.com
Cc: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid
Every now and then, one of the scientists will post something very
interesting and educational. Some of the best planetary-scientists in
the world lurk on this List and they occasionally post some really
fascinating stuff. I think what we are experiencing here, in part, is
a drain of posts going from the List to Facebook. Many regular
posters here on the List are now very active on Facebook. And, people
have a tendency to forget the good quickly and then hang on to the bad
indefinitely. It's selective memory. In the last couple of months.
we have had thought-provoking discussions about meteorites and
planetary science. Doctors Rubin, Agee, Bunch, Korotev, Grossman,
(and several others who I cannot recall at the moment), often jump in
to a discussion to provide interesting and useful insights. Those
posts just get forgotten quickly for some reason.

In my 6+ years on the List, I have seen a roller coaster of activity -
sometimes busy, sometimes not. And, there are actually fewer ads now
than there used to be years ago. Many of the people that used to post
ads are now gone and we haven't heard from them much at all in recent
years. New dealers have come on to the scene and they post ads, but
it seems to me that the number of ads has not increased - it just
seems that why because fewer people are posting in general - so the
ads are more noticeable.

Facebook is a great resource, but it will never replace the Met-List. :)
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On 3/10/14, Bob Loeffler bloeff...@peaktopeak.com wrote:
In this day and age, people want their posts to be instant, how it was 
on

meteorite central before the over haul.

Hi Shawn,

In this day and age, posts via EMAIL are pretty much instantaneous. I 
have
never gone to the website to read or post messages for this list. Is 
there

a reason why you do that instead of just getting the posts instantly via
email? IMO, reading messages in a list such as this on a website is
archaic, but maybe you have your reasons. I used to do that on Compuserve
20 to 25 years ago, but why go to different websites for all of the
community groups that you read instead of having the messages all sent
automatically to email? It's easy to set up rules in email apps so that
you
have all of the MetList emails in one folder, all of the
Pizza-is-yummy-Society emails in another folder, etc. But like I said,
maybe you have your reasons.

Regards,

Bob L.


-Original Message-
From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Shawn
Alan
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 1:35 PM
To: Meteorite Central
Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid

Hello Listers

My two cents

The List went quite ish when Art did the over haul and personal I don't 
go
to the website any more because the posts arent instant. Right now, if 
you
go to Meteorite Central the latest post is from March 5th. In this day 
and
age, people want their posts to be instant, how it was on meteorite 
central

before the over haul. Now it take weeks before a post shows up on the
website, not sure why Art did this, but it sounds like its hurting the
website then helping it. Art, I wish the website went back to the way it
was, I would go to the website 10 to 15 times a day if not 

Re: [meteorite-list] Buying meteorites abroad?

[PolandMET]

Questionhas anybody got any advice about the best way to make
payments around the world to areas that will not take Paypal...eg
online with Western Union or similar?
Graham


Hello Graham and List
If You think about purchasing something from Morocco, then Western Union or 
bank transfer. For less trusted places like for example Burkina Faso 
(Gao-Guenie) only Western Union and only after You receive material first. I 
dont see any other way to go.


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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid

[PolandMET]

What the list misses is Facebook's Like button. That was a brilliant
idea of FB that allows people to semi-lurk, especially if they don't
have time to write a long comment -- which also sometimes can be a
blessing! I'm sure there are many 'likes' of list posts, we just never
get to see them -- and it can feel silent.

Carl Agee


Well said Carl!

Some persons dont like/understand or affraid of social media platforms (my 
parents :)  like Facebook. But hey, lets compare Met-list and Facebook to 
Radio and TV.


When You hear news during our ride in the car, it causes that You do not 
watch the news on TV later ? No, You watch TV becouse it offers more 
informations than radio. And even if radio is still usefull in some 
situation we spend more time watching TV. Yes ?


Same is here. Met-list is perfect for longer discussion while Facebook is 
better for fast news, sales, PHOTOS and MOVIES etc.


So dont be affraid, You dont need to share Your private life there. But 
places like Meteorite group where at the moment we have 1291 members is 
great upgrade.




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Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics
Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences
MSC03 2050
University of New Mexico
Albuquerque NM 87131-1126

Tel: (505) 750-7172
Fax: (505) 277-3577
Email: a...@unm.edu
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On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Galactic Stone  Ironworks
meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote:

Every now and then, one of the scientists will post something very
interesting and educational.  Some of the best planetary-scientists in
the world lurk on this List and they occasionally post some really
fascinating stuff.  I think what we are experiencing here, in part, is
a drain of posts going from the List to Facebook.  Many regular
posters here on the List are now very active on Facebook.  And, people
have a tendency to forget the good quickly and then hang on to the bad
indefinitely.  It's selective memory.  In the last couple of months.
we have had thought-provoking discussions about meteorites and
planetary science.  Doctors Rubin, Agee, Bunch, Korotev, Grossman,
(and several others who I cannot recall at the moment), often jump in
to a discussion to provide interesting and useful insights.  Those
posts just get forgotten quickly for some reason.

In my 6+ years on the List, I have seen a roller coaster of activity -
sometimes busy, sometimes not.  And, there are actually fewer ads now
than there used to be years ago.  Many of the people that used to post
ads are now gone and we haven't heard from them much at all in recent
years.  New dealers have come on to the scene and they post ads, but
it seems to me that the number of ads has not increased - it just
seems that why because fewer people are posting in general - so the
ads are more noticeable.

Facebook is a great resource, but it will never replace the Met-List.  :)
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On 3/10/14, Bob Loeffler bloeff...@peaktopeak.com wrote:
In this day and age, people want their posts to be instant, how it was 
on

meteorite central before the over haul.

Hi Shawn,

In this day and age, posts via EMAIL are pretty much instantaneous.  I 
have
never gone to the website to read or post messages for this list.  Is 
there

a reason why you do that instead of just getting the posts instantly via
email?  IMO, reading messages in a list such as this on a website is
archaic, but maybe you have your reasons.  I used to do that on 
Compuserve

20 to 25 years ago, but why go to different websites for all of the
community groups that you read instead of having the messages all sent
automatically to email?  It's easy to set up rules in email apps so that
you
have all of the MetList emails in one folder, all of the
Pizza-is-yummy-Society emails in another folder, etc.  But like I said,
maybe you have your reasons.

Regards,

Bob L.


-Original Message-
From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Shawn
Alan
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 1:35 PM
To: Meteorite Central
Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid

Hello Listers

My two cents

The List went quite ish when Art did the over haul and personal I don't 
go
to the website any more because the posts arent instant. Right now, if 
you
go to Meteorite Central the latest post is from March 5th. In this day 

Re: [meteorite-list] AD: The Very Best Oriented ChelyabinskMeteorites on the Internet!

[PolandMET]

well
I wait for LIKE from Art now :)



Like!!


Steve Witt
IMCA #9020
http://imca.cc/





From: Ruben Garcia rubengarcia85...@gmail.com
To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 5:49 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] AD: The Very Best Oriented Chelyabinsk Meteorites 
on the Internet!



Seriously, just look!
http://www.mrmeteorite.com/orientedchelyabinsk.htm

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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid

[PolandMET]

damn, 
You just won prize for Best question of the month !


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Hi LIST!   Okay, this'll spark, I'm sure.  How did Gujba form?
Richard Rick Bob Montgomery

-Original Message- 
From: almi...@localnet.com

Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 4:34 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] List is getting torpid

Greetings all,

One problem in my opinion, is having too many areas (websites) for the
meteorite subject considering the amount of people who are actually
involved in Meteorites. It would be different if there were an active
million people wanting to discuss the subject.

I also think some of the posts here are redundant and people are
capable of looking up their own information without someone posting
multipal times a week on an area that most of us go and search anyway.
It wouldn't be a bad idea to post once every two three months for new
comers.

Art, rather than charge for ads (although that would stop the chronic
ad posters), require people to post an informative meteorite post
before they can post an ad (still only one time a week). Post as many
informative post as you want. (that's a new concept here)

We also need ideas and someone to stimulate posts. Perhaps by having a
helper of Art's to post a suggested topic each week we could discuss.
Could also be once a month.

Don't know about the rest of everyone but I was very busy the last two
years and have not been able to post much here. I usually read books on
the subject and post ideas here when I am done reading to get
discussion going.

The list does need to be monitored to keep it at a certain respectable 
level.


Just some ideas.

--AL Mitterling
Mitterling Meteorites
25 years as a dealer

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Re: [meteorite-list] New Chilean Meteorites - where are they?

[PolandMET]

Hi
Here is the website where most (all?) Atacama main masses found new home.
http://www.museodelmeteorito.cl/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=18Itemid=24
To bad its in spanish :(

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Possibly Rodrigo?

http://www.thisischile.cl/8541/2/meteorite-museum-in-northern-chile-takes-you-out-on-the-hunt/News.aspx

Anyone fancy a trip? ;-)

Graham

On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 12:58 AM, Ruben Garcia
rubengarcia85...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

A friend, list member, and all round nice guy is the finder and holder
of most of these specimens... Maybe he'll come forward and talk about
them?

On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Galactic Stone  Ironworks
meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi List,

I have noticed an uptick in meteorites from Chile being approved.
There seems to be quite a few meteorites coming out of the Atacama now
- mostly OC's, but occasionally something interesting like a CO or
achondrite.  Where do those meteorites end up?  Have any ever made it
onto the collector market?

Recent example (just approved today) -
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=59498

Best regards and Happy Huntings,

MikeG

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[meteorite-list] Photographic Catalog of the selected Antarctic Meteorites 1981

[PolandMET]

Hello
If anyone was unlucky and didnt get Werner's red books, then I have one.

Photographic Catalog of the selected Antarctic Meteorites', National 
Institute of Polar Research, Tokyo 1981


Perfect condition, selling for what I have paid for it few years ago.

please contact me off list

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[meteorite-list] Page update RARE STUFF AD

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I made small update on my web page 
http://www.polandmet.com


. NWA 8095 [CO3] - new fresh CO3
. NWA 7490 [DIO] - best diogenite, Johnstown-like, new slices
. NWA 7317 [CR6] - complete specimen with fresh crust 56g
. CAMEL DONGA [EUC] - large oriented specimen 74g
. MILLBILLILLIE [EUC] - large complete specimen 184g

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[meteorite-list] Seymchan / Gibeon slice NEEDED

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Hi list
I need slice around 1-3mm thin 
Around 5x10cm size. No inclusions, etched

Meteorite - any stable iron with good pattern and not expensive

contact me off list

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[meteorite-list] LARGE ebay sale of my personal collection pieces AD

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Hello List
I listed on ebay several of my personal collection specimens that I keept 
for many years.
There is also many other specimens listed from 1$, too many to list all 
here.

http://stores.ebay.com/PolandMET-Store

They ends friday evening (european time), US time 16:13:45 PST

Meteorite JUANCHENG [H5 fall] SUPER FULL SLICE 20.91g
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121279877498

Meteorite GAO-GUENIE [H5] ORIENTED HEART shaped MYSTERY
http://www.ebay.com/itm/400667472842

Meteorite CAMEL DONGA [EUC] Australia EXTREMELY ORIENTED ...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121280545230

Meteorite THUATHE [H4/5] observed fall - full slice 19.50g
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121279880350

Meteorite DaG 477 [L6] super slice from Libya 18.70g
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121279883331

Meteorite EL HAMMAMI [H5] Large fresh slice 32.95g fresh ...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121280519751

Meteorite MILLBILLILLIE [EUC] Australia TWO LITHOLOGIES
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121280522916

Meteorite NORTON COUNTY [AUB] USA observed fall 2.74g
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121280526807

Meteorite VACA MUERTA [MES] Atacama desert mesosiderite
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121280529061

Meteorite NWA 6075 [A-LOD] full slice LODRANITE 7.43g
http://www.ebay.com/itm/400667481037

Meteorite MORASKO [IAB] Excellent etched endpiece 28.7g
http://www.ebay.com/itm/400667482036

Meteorite NWA 6565 [IIIAB] large full slice 910g LOOK
http://www.ebay.com/itm/400667491292

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[meteorite-list] New NWA 8214 CK5 -AD

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NWA 8214
Carbonaceous chondrite (CK5)
Mass:380g

New meteorite full slices with beautifull black chondrules in gray-brown 
matrix.

Only 5 slices and two endpieces available.

http://www.polandmet.com/_nwa8214.htm

Meteorite is aproved by Met Bull
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=59341



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[meteorite-list] big selection of MORASKO slices AD

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Today on ebay big selection of MORASKO slices. 

From 3g to 65g

Please take a look

http://www.ebay.com/sch/polandmet_com/m.html

Also Maslyanino, Itqiy, Agoudal, Chinga
and 127g Bilanga crusted specimen.
Waiting for You offer :)

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[meteorite-list] ebay - coins, Itqiy, Mundrabilla, Maslyamino, Agoudal, Mont Dieu AD

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Hello List
Few of my auctions end tomorrow. Some nice etched irons or coinc to choose.

Meteorite ITQIY [EH7-an] ultra rare anom. enstatite chondrite 1.24g
http://www.ebay.com/itm/400639576998

Meteorite MONT DIEU [Ungrouped iron] ultra rare iron from France 10.61g
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121248952069

Meteorite MASLYANINO [IAB] rare silicate iron from Russia 25g
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121248958029

Meteorite MUNDRABILLA [IAB] Excellent etched endpiece 36.9g
http://www.ebay.com/itm/400639592374

Meteorite AGOUDAL [IIAB] New iron from Morocco 49.4g complete IMILCHIL
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121248976972

Meteorite TAMDAKHT [H5] observed fall - fragment 13.8g
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121248923148

140th Anniversary of the PULTUSK meteorite shower - 2008 coin
http://www.ebay.com/itm/400639545622

77th Anniversary of the LOWICZ meteorite shower - Limited GOLD edition 25 
pcs

http://www.ebay.com/itm/400639546398

77th Anniversary of the LOWICZ meteorite shower - Limited SILVER edition 25 
pcs

http://www.ebay.com/itm/400639546588

Meteorite KEYCHAIN with NWA869 by Polandmet UNIQUE
http://www.ebay.com/itm/400639545812

Meteorite KEYCHAIN with GAO-GUENIE by Polandmet UNIQUE
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121248914828

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[meteorite-list] ebay Maslyamino, Mundrabilla, Agoudal, Itqiy, Tamdakht, Mont Dieu, Morasko AD

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Hello list

I have on ebay some nice irons
Maslyamino, Mundrabilla, Agoudal (hole), Itqiy, Tamdakht, Mont Dieu, Morasko
http://www.ebay.com/sch/polandmet_com/m.html

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Re: [meteorite-list] KATOL (L6) is official

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Wow, this is just a surprize, or maybe not ?
For me the crust looks alot like chondrite material, so Im not surprized 
here.

But still interesting

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Dear list members,

Katol is officially listed as an L6 in the Bulletin now!

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=Katolsfor=namesants=falls=valids=stype=containslrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Allsrt=namecateg=Allmblist=Allrect=phot=snew=0pnt=Normal%20tablecode=58500

Happy new year 2014 to all of you!

Martin
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Re: [meteorite-list] Most searched meteorites of 2013

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Very interesting Jeff
Can You post detailed list lets say TOP100 with numbers of hits on each 
meteorite ?
Why peoples search for Sikhotes ? NWA869 ? hmm. They dont see enough of them 
on ebay, google photos, web pages, their own boxes ? This is like search for 
potatos or coca-cola bottles.

Strange

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Something happened in week 18 of 2013 (end of April), and thousands of 
people looked at Sikhote-Alin. This was about 7 weeks after the fall of 
Chelyabinsk.  I don't know what it triggered this.  But this spike, 
combined with the normal background interest in S-A, put it in 1st place.


In point of fact, you may recall that my server got taken down by a crush 
of hits on Fukang in October, when an article got posted on the Facebook 
page I f---ing love science.  From the log, I could tell that I was 
getting many thousands of (failed) hits per hour.  If I could have handled 
this, Fukang would have beaten both S-A and Chelyabinsk.


Jeff



On 12/31/2013 3:25 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:

Great data Jeff. Thanks for compiling and reporting it to us. I'm
shocked that Chelyabinsk wasn't number one by orders of magnitude
The rest are no surprising.
Michael Farmer
Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 31, 2013, at 11:47 AM, Jeff Grossman jngross...@gmail.com 
wrote:


All,

Here are the top 10 meteorite searches from the MetBull database in 
2013, in decreasing order of popularity.


Sikhote-Alin (Iron, IIAB)
Chelyabinsk (LL5)
Northwest Africa 7325 (Achondrite-ung)
Hoba (Iron, IVB)
Fukang (Pallasite, PMG)
Northwest Africa 7034 (Martian (basaltic breccia))
Tissint (Martian (shergottite))
Northwest Africa 869 (L3-6)
Campo del Cielo (Iron, IAB-MG)
Allende (CV3)

Sikhote-Alin, Fukang, NWA 869, Campo, and Allende have been perennial 
favorites since I first compiled the list in 2007.


Happy new year!

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[meteorite-list] 50 THIN SECTIONS update AD

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Hello list
I loaded big LOT of new thin sections. Around 50 slices ready for You.
http://www.polandmet.com/_ts.htm
All blue labeled slices are covered, few other with red label are not 
covered.


Shipping free for all TS !

Also take a look at my new size membrane boxes
http://www.polandmet.com/_box.htm


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[meteorite-list] My meteorites on Youtube

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Hello
From long time I wanted to make a video documentation of my specimens (main 
masses) before they needed to be cut into slices. Tooday I decided that its 
time to start this experiment.


I made several (i hope) good 360* movies with specimens from my collection 
and my unclassified main masses that still waiting and waiting for their NWA 
numbers. From other side its good that their classifications takes soo long, 
becousese in other case, they will be in slices long time ago.


Please, send me Your opinions, comments and remarks about my videos. In near 
future I want make more movies with more efects and ofcourse longer. If 
someone can turn off this rain over europe, I plan even make some in field 
movies :)
I use my new Panasonic Lumix TZ7 with HD movies and very simple, but good 
AVS Video Editor.


Please visit my Youtube account (10 movies)
http://www.youtube.com/user/Polandmet#g/u


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Re: [meteorite-list] Saw Blades

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From: m...@mhmeteorites.com
With sintered blades the diamonds are actually cooked in with the 
metallic alloys of the blade material, thus impregnating the diamonds into 
the rim of the blade. This creates a much longer-life and the sintering 
creates a more durable and stiffer metallic alloy.


The non-sintered blades (pro-slicer) are made of basically, sheet-metal, 
and the diamonds are sprayed onto the rim.  Once the diamonds are removed, 
the blade is worthless.

Matt


I cant agree with You.
I use ONLY this worthless chinse diamond blades from ebay, this for 4-6$/ 
blade. I make hundreds slices on each, single blade before I need to change 
it becouse the rim with diamonds is basicaly


losses completly into 0! I cant imagine to use any Pro-Slicer for 30-40$ :)
I even used only one blade to cut urelites. Ofcourse , each slice take 
30-50min to cut, but ... this blade do it. And my cut looses are very low.


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[meteorite-list] TAMDAKHT fragments and -5%, -10% shipping free !!

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Hello List
I have 20 fragments of Tamdakht, fall from 2008, at very low price.

And there will be to the end of sunday ...
5% discount on all 200$+ purchases
10% discount on all 400+ purchases

and all purchases get shipping free.

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[meteorite-list] AD some unclassified material CO3, R5, EUC

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Hello
I have few small specimens for sale.
All of them are unclassified and have only my own eye pairings. They are too 
small and too nice to cut them for type specimen.


21.48g 7 complete specimens 300$
This is LOT of very nice, fresh and complete eucrites. In my opinion all of 
them are part of a very rare type Achondrite Eucrite, shock melt breccia 
like my NWA 5218. Specimens have eucritic fragments divided by layers of 
black shocked material. One of specimen is even in half eucritic and in half 
black melted with sharp border through center. This type of eucrite is very 
rare.

http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/nwaxxx_2148a.jpg
http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/nwaxxx_2148b.jpg
http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/nwaxxx_2148c.jpg
http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/nwaxxx_2148d.jpg
http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/nwaxxx_2148e.jpg

9.54g 150$
Specimen is very fresh rumuruti chondrite most propably paired to Mirko's 
NWA 6145 R5 W0/S4. Comparing both meteorites looks like they are identical 
outside and inside.
Specimen was cut in morocco, I only repolished existing window to get better 
view inside. Meteorite is very fresh, lots of small, white chondrules and 
troilite particles. Crust is very fresh with contraction cracks.


http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/nwaxxx_954a.jpg
http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/nwaxxx_954b.jpg
http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/nwaxxx_954c.jpg
http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/nwaxxx_954d.jpg

19.14g 100$
Specimen is most propably CO3 chondrite. There is one broken fragment (both 
fragments keep toogether when connected) On little polished surface there is 
lots of small chondrules. Specimen have lots of crust.

http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/nwaxxx_1914a.jpg
http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/nwaxxx_1914b.jpg
http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/nwaxxx_1914c.jpg
http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/nwaxxx_1914d.jpg


Paypal payments to pay...@polandmet.com


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Re: [meteorite-list] AD some unclassified material CO3, R5, EUC

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all sold out :)

and good luck hunters, 
Too bad that we have not such terrain in Vysny Klatov.


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[meteorite-list] NWA 5507 L3.2 and NWA 5980 WIN - new slices

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Hello
I have big lot of new slices.

NWA 5507 L3.2
20 new slices with large chondrules and inclusions (include one black 
inclusion)


NWA 5980 WIN
New full slices.

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Re: [meteorite-list] The Slovakian Fall

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Mike and List
I think we must be realy creazy that we spend importand Easter Hoolidays in 
the field :)
Few days after Slovakia scientists announced their new finds I decided to 
make a small hunting group and try to search the fall area. We spend 3 days 
in Vysny Klatov and here is some photos from this hunt.


http://www.polandmet.com/+vysny_klatov.htm


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Dear List:

I am a little surprised that there has been little discussion regarding
Slovakia's new fall. It is the country's first recovery of a witnessed 
fall

in over a century and appears to be at least a medium sized fall with
hundreds of stones still to be recovered. Are any of our European friends
hunting this strewnfield? What are Slovakia's laws regarding ownership,
exportation, etc.? Surely I am not the only one interested in this very
important fall. I would love to hear from our friends in Eastern Europe or
those on the ground.

Best regards,

Mike Bandli

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Re: [meteorite-list] NWA Meteorites

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Dear list Members,

Lets talk a little bet about NWA sceintifacally and in marketing. what did 
NWA stones offer to sceince? Do you appreciate NWA, it's obly 3 letters, 
but has done great for sceince, collectors and dealers, don't you have 
anything to say to NWA ? can we have a special day for NWA? can we 
celibrate it? and call it NWA DAY ? any word as a gift to those great 
meteorites were found in NWA?


Lets do a special NWA Day when all NWA meteorites will be priced -50%
:D

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[meteorite-list] My new Lunar !

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Hi
I think I have new Lunar.
http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/P0023026.JPG 


Happy Holidays :D

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Re: [meteorite-list] your new lunar is a howardite

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marcin
are you kiding, this is a howardite we have in morroco this months
aziz


Oh noo, noo, I have spend 40 000 for this lunar!!!
Hehehehe
Looks like Jeff lose his monopoly for Monthly Favorite.
This month, Monthly Favorite Morocco Meteorite is Howardite !!!

Heh, yes ofcourse its my new baby EUC/HOW. Its really beautifull complete 
black crusted specimen. I have cut it tooday morning becouse I need sample 
for thin section. Inside its really stunning.


Thats why I love eucrites, they are most beautifull :)

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I think I have new Lunar.
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[meteorite-list] Slovakia meteorite found from 28FEB2010 Bolide

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Some new interesting photos and video.

http://tvnoviny.sk/spravy/regiony/astronomovia-nasli-vo-vysnom-klatove-zvysky-meteoritu.html
Here Im not sure if this foto is from actual fall :)
http://www.webnoviny.sk/hi-tech/vo-vysnom-klatove-sa-nasli-zvysky-me/102606-clanok.html
and old one
http://korzar.sme.sk/c/5310123/astronomovia-nasli-pri-vysnom-klatove-zvysky-meteoritu.html

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Re: [meteorite-list] New Eucrite? - Eastern Slovakia

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I think, this photo of eucrite is only an EXAMPLE send by Mr Spurny and its 
not from this fall. For me its only ilustration for article, and yes it 
looks like fresh eucrite. But meteorites found in Slovakia/Hungary is H5 
chondrite. It looks like OC than achondrite here

http://aktualne.centrum.sk/veda-a-technika/clanek.phtml?id=1205004

Here is nice two video. Second one show how clearly that this is chondrite

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=yprev=_thl=enie=UTF-8layout=1eotf=1u=http%3A%2F%2Fkorzar.sme.sk%2Fc%2F5310123%2Fastronomovia-nasli-pri-vysnom-klatove-zvysky-meteoritu.htmlsl=autotl=en

Who is going to hunt ? Im around 200km from site :D

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Take a look at the photos in the article, does this appear to be an 
achondrite/eucrite maybe?


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On the eastern Slovakia fell meteorite, scientists found fragments of
http://www.rozhlas.cz/zpravy/vesmir/_zprava/714433
Eastern Slovakia fell to an hour before midnight on 28th February tens of 
kilograms of rock from space. These were fragments of a meteorite that 
burned up in atmosphere, lit up the sky in a radius of several hundred 
kilometers and frightening residents.


Some fragments of the meteorite, astronomers have found, researched and 
today it is first shown to the public. How Radiožurnál said Marek Husařík 
of the Astronomical Institute of the Slovak Academy of Sciences, the 
largest piece weighs over two kilograms.

Audio
Interview with Mark Husařík from the Astronomical Institute of the Slovak 
Academy of Sciences in the afternoon Radiožurnál

DOWNLOAD (download)

It has a dark gray color is relatively heavy compared to other stones, 
which are normally found on Earth, described Husařík rare find.


Scientists have found fragments of municipalities of Klatovy Vyšný west of 
Kosice. Whence meteorid arrived, trying to find Slovak astronomers, 
together with experts from the Ondrejov Observatory of the Academy of 
Sciences.


Identify heliocentric orbit is not easy, it is necessary to determine the 
position of being the largest pieces of which we have actually only one, 
said Husařík.


Impacts of meteorites on Earth are referred to him a frequent phenomenon, 
but it is not easy to record. Specifically, the Slovak has been observed, 
there are five falls. Recent findings from the 1994 Rumanová the village, 
he said.


Part of the material universe is now going to analyze the composition, 
more debris then end up in museum in the Slovak Republic, the Czech 
Republic and Hungary. It then comes under Husařík important video that 
helped to identify the impact site.

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Re: [meteorite-list] New Eucrite? - Eastern Slovakia

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Another with lack of experience?  Prove me wrong!  Dirk Ross.
I will eat another shoe!


what You mean ?



--- On Thu, 4/1/10, Greg Stanley stanleygr...@hotmail.com wrote:


From: Greg Stanley stanleygr...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Eucrite? - Eastern Slovakia
To: drtan...@yahoo.com, e...@meteoritesusa.com, 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Date: Thursday, April 1, 2010, 5:58 AM

The fusion crust does look like that of an Eucrite.
Exhibits the typical high gloss and more of a melted texture
due to the high CA content in Eucrites. Very nice.

Greg S.


 Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:40:33 -0700
 From: drtan...@yahoo.com
 To: e...@meteoritesusa.com;
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Eucrite? - Eastern
Slovakia

 No Eric,
 You claim to offer meteorite ID and a news service for
meteorite USA. This requires book and practical experience.
No personal attack intended. Lack of basic study is not an
excuse. Dirk Ross...Tokyo

 --- On Thu, 4/1/10, Meteorites USA wrote:

 From: Meteorites USA
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Eucrite? -
Eastern Slovakia
 To: drtanuki
 Date: Thursday, April 1, 2010, 5:32 AM
 Excuse me? Am I taking this right?
 Are you implying something here Dirk!?

 ...Anyone with experience as you claim should
have noticed
 the fusion crust;...

 I certainly hope you aren't implying anything
negative!

 Regards,
 Eric

 On 3/31/2010 1:28 PM, drtanuki wrote:
 Eric, Another surprising point; DID you
happen
 to take a look at the fusion crust??? Anyone
with
 experience as you claim should have noticed the
fusion
 crust; is this what would be expected from a a
 Eucrite? Dirk Ross...Tokyo

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[meteorite-list] Mr Nelson Oakes

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Hi List
Nelson Your email dont work for me, please contact me.



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Adam
Can You tell me who made this vacum case for Your NWA5000 ? 


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[meteorite-list] $$$ Meteorite NWA 4560 [LL3.1] fresh slice 12.1g AD ebay

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Hi
I have few meteorites ending in 24hours and some still have price 1cent!

$$$ Meteorite NWA 4560 [LL3.1] fresh slice 12.1g
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test
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Karl, please contact me off-list

tnx

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[meteorite-list] New beautifull Morasko IAB - 11.4kg for sale

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Hi
I have new amazing specimen of Morasko, IAB-mg, 11 400 grams, full of 
regmaglyptes, cohenite inclusions everywhere, simply beautifull.


Together with this I have finished rotated 360* image of this specimen.
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[meteorite-list] Polandmet ebay auctions - AD

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Hello List
I have some new auctions started this evening.

Some rare types and beautifull :D
Eucrites, brachinite, winonaite, diogenite, CK3, some low type chondrites 
including L3.05!


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Have fun in Tucson !
I will have fun in Austria alps from tomorrow :)

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[meteorite-list] D'Orbigny and NWA 5206 LL3.05

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Hi
I forgot to mention that I have new specimens of D'Orbigny Angrite and 
amazing NWA 5206 LL3.05 on my page


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aye

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Re: [meteorite-list] Stefan's New Find

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The uncut main mass: http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/carb-ungesch.jpg
The cut surface: http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/carb.jpg



Heh interesting stone.
I bet its CV3, very fresh, fragile. Its little similar to my NWA4838 if we 
look on structure.
www.polandmet.com\gfx_nwa4838\004.htm It looks same fragile like my stone or 
even more.


so...
What about a very fresh CV with shocked part ? Becouse this dark part looks 
like have the same size/type  chondruls like the light part. Or any type of 
patrial weathering, but I dont think.


Its a breccia or shock effect.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Northwest Africa Falls - Question

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Good compare Martin. Really nothing suspicious.
11:11 falls
Except the TKW :) 


Zag 1998   175 kg
El Idrissa 1998  10 kg
Djoumine 1999  10 kg
Beni M'hira 2001 19 kg
Bensour 2002  45 kg
Oum Dreyga 2003  17 kg
Maigatari-Danduma 2004 4.63 kg
Benguerir 2004  25 kg
Bassikounou 2006 29.56 kg
Chergach 2007  100 kg
And now the new possible fall. many kg
= 434kg

Europe:

Ourique 1998  20 kg
Leighlinbridge 1999 271 g
Moravka 2000  633 g
San Michele 2002  237 g
Neuschwanstein 2002 6.19 kg
Alby sur Cheran 2002 252 g
Villalbeto 2004  3.5 kg
Moss 2006   3.76 kg
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Re: [meteorite-list] Northwest Africa Falls - Question

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ups, ofcourse here is total  TKW ~35kg


Europe:

Ourique 1998  20 kg
Leighlinbridge 1999 271 g
Moravka 2000  633 g
San Michele 2002  237 g
Neuschwanstein 2002 6.19 kg
Alby sur Cheran 2002 252 g
Villalbeto 2004  3.5 kg
Moss 2006   3.76 kg
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[meteorite-list] Fantastic World of Zaklodzie E-rich Ungr. Achondrite

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Hello List
I have upload new, actual and high quality photos of Zaklodzie.
Photos made on August 2008

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