Re: [meteorite-list] Hamburg H4 organics?
Hi Kevi and List, Is this what you are looking for? HECK P.R. et al. (2020) The fall, recovery, classification, and initial characterization of the Hamburg, Michigan H4 chondrite (MAPS 55-10, 2020, 001-019, doi: 10./maps.13584): The solvent soluble meteoritic organic matter of the Hamburg meteorite shows a high diversity of thousands of polar and sulfurized hydrocarbons (Fig. 15). Organic extract analysis shows that Hamburg contains 2600 elementary compounds in CHNOS space. Polar hydrocarbons are the most abundant, followed by sulfurized and N‐containing compounds. Bernd processed by David.fx Subject: [meteorite-list] Hamburg H4 organics? (29-Okt-2020 18:04) From:Kevin Kichinka via Meteorite-list To: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de Team Meteorite: First off , congratulations to Roberto Vargas' for his acquisition of a most fabulous specimen of Tarda C2 UNGROUPED. http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=10/27/2020 Now I wonder what 'organics' were discovered on Hamburg H4 as noted in the popular media. Wouldn't this auspicious finding be mentioned in the Met Bull? https://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=hamburg=names=contains=50=ge==United+States=name=All=All0=Normal%20table=66772 Kevin Kichinka 110" of rain YTD... ...and it's still falling on my Persian Lime trees... due south of Aguas Zarcas, Costa Rica__ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] In memoriam Jim Kriegh
You are gone, Jim, since Oct 10, 2007 but you are not forgotten! KRING D.A. et al. (1998) Gold Basin Meteorite Strewn Field: The Fossil remnants of an asteroid that catastrophically fragmented in Earths atmosphere (Lunar and Planetary Science XXIX, in press, 1998, excerpt): "The Gold Basin meteorite was discovered by J.D. Kriegh while prospecting for gold with a metal detector on 24 November 1995 in the eastern portion of the Mojave Desert. The initial find consisted of two fragments (about 13 g total mass) which were immediately identified as meteoritic material..." Best wishes to you up there in your heavenly abode! Bernd __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] MPOD
Mike Farmer wrote: "Sorry but NWA 2634 is a ureilite" Yes, Mike, absolutely right but NWA 2364 is a CV3 ;-) Best wishes from Germany, Bernd __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] MPOD
Mike Farmer wrote: "Sorry but NWA 2634 is a ureilite" Yes, Mike, absolutely right but NWA 2364 is a CV3 ;-) Best wishes from Germany, Bernd __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] MPOD
Mike Farmer wrote: "Sorry but NWA 2634 is a ureilite" Yes, Mike, absolutely right but NWA 2364 is a CV3 ;-) Best wishes from Germany, Bernd __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] MPOD
Mike Farmer wrote: "Sorry but NWA 2634 is a ureilite" Yes, Mike, absolutely right but NWA 2364 is a CV3 ;-) Best wishes from Germany, Bernd __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] R.I.P. Count Guido Deiro
Matthias Baermann wrote: "As a hunter he found the biggest stone meteorite of Nevada." For a full report of Count Deiro's 13.7 kg Nevada find, see A Year of Study Results in a Record First Find! by Count Guido Deiro (Meteorite Magazine, Aug 2010, Vol. 16, No. 3, pp. 33-36). Cheers, Bernd __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Analysis Just Changed The Original Date of a Massive Meteorite Crater
Yep, this is the paper: BARROWS T.T. et al. (2019) The age of Wolfe Creek meteorite crater (Kandimalal), Western Australia (MAPS 54-11, 2019, 26862697). Best regards, Bernd __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] In memoriam Darryl Futrell (+2001)
I have been a rock collector since I was a kid, and that Bug finally provided me a car that would take me most anywhere in North America in my search for rare rocks. Over the next two and a half decades, I drove my Beetles and related vehicles about 1.5 million miles on trips to Canada, Mexico, twice to Kentucky, twice to Georgia, about 10 times to eastern Texas, and several times to volcanic sites way up north. Also included were dozens of week-end trips to Southern California deserts to hunt meteorites on dry lakes. Best wishes, Bernd (in Germany) __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re-2: Bob Haag's Adamana Cast
> This is Bob Haag and my plaster cast of Adamana weight 947 g. Oops, sorry, Bob, you are right. I just weighed my plaster cast and got 920 grams on my wife's kitchen scale. That kitchen scale isn't absolutely precise, of course. List, sorry for my two previous mails! Cheers, bernd To: rha...@comcast.net Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bob Haag's Adamana Cast
Hi Tim and List, > Does anyone know how much Bob Haag's Adamana (VENUS STONE)weighs? The plaster cast of Bob Haag's Venus Stone weighs 2000 grams! All the best, Bernd __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bob Haag's Adamana Cast
Hi Tim and List, > Does anyone know how much Bob Haag's Adamana (VENUS STONE)weighs? The plaster cast of Bob Haag's Venus Stone weighs 1780 grams! All the best, Bernd __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bob Haag's Adamana Cast
Hi Tim and List, > Does anyone know how much Bob Haag's Adamana (VENUS STONE)weighs? The plaster cast of Bob Haag's Venus Stone weighs 2000 grams! All the best, Bernd __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Colombianite and anyone have contact info for Hal Povenmire?
Hello Phil and List, I have this email-address but I don't know if it still works: => katieh...@yahoo.com <= By the way, beautiful Columbianite! Cheers, Bernd __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Moldavite
Hello Michael and List, Here are some reliable sources for genuine Czech moldavites: stores.ebay.com/czechminerals/_i.html?_nkw=moldavite=Search&_sid=546074110 naturshop.cz/en/catalog/category/605/moldavites?gclid=Cj0KEQiA7qLDBRD9xJ7PscDCu5IBEiQAqo3BxFc1dtZuazG7OnLxeNZ-q6_nXYhZhcj2xD-or5-h9LgaAgMq8P8HAQ stores.ebay.de/CS-MINERALS/MOLDAVITES-/_i.html?rt=nc&_dmd=1&_fsub=3419688013&_sid=518359943&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1581&_vc=1&_pgn=1 Regards, Bernd __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hessle
Dave, Mike Farmer is offering a 5.848 gr fragment of Hessle. Best wishes, Bernd__ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hessle
Dave, Mike Farmer is offering a 5.848 gr fragment of Hessle. Best wishes, Bernd __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re-2: Blue Salt Crystals
Hi Paul, AL, and List, AL wrote: > The blue halide crystals were found early on in Zag. I believe they > were found in other meteorites (Monahans, Tx?) but information has a > way of finding it's way back into the public eye. Correct! The Monahans (H5) and Zag (H3-6) meteorites are the only meteorites known to contain *liquid* water. The water was found in salt crystals inside the meteorites. Monahans (1998) contains contains blue crystals of halite (NaCl) and sylvite (KCl).* *GIBSON Jr. E.K. et al. (1998) Monahans (1998) H5 chondrite: An unusual meteorite fall with extraterrestrial halite and sylvite (Meteoritics 33-4, 1998, A057). AL also wrote: > Yes, they were packed out by camel and the > camel sweat story was a part of the story. Doesn't the camel sweat story belong to El Hammami (H5)??? Best from Germany, Bernd __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Jim Kriegh (+ 2007)
In memoriam Jim Kriegh: Kring, Kriegh, and John Blennert and Ingrid Monrad, also of the Oro Valley-Tucson area, collaborate in collecting and mapping the Gold Basin meteorite fragments, which range in size from a peanut to a 3-pound softball that Blennert recovered. Best wishes from Germany, Bernd __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] current email address for Michael Cottingham
> Does anyone have a current email address for Michael Cottingham? Hello Mendy and List, What about this one: voyagebotan...@hotmail.com Best, Bernd __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re-2: Stargazer gets a closer look at the Perseid meteor shower than he bargai
> Sales of all smoking and burning meteorites are further suspended... Especially of the ones you can light a cigarette with ;-) Bernd __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Darryl Futrell (+ 2001, Aug 13) - In Memoriam
On May 16, 1999, Darryl sent me an email and wrote among other things: "I have been a rock collector since I was a kid, and that Bug finally provided me a car that would take me most anywhere in North America in my search for rare rocks. Over the next two and a half decades, I drove my Beetles and related vehicles about 1.5 million miles on trips to Canada, Mexico, twice to Kentucky, twice to Georgia, about 10 times to eastern Texas, and several times to volcanic sites way up north. Also included were dozens of week- end trips to Southern California deserts to hunt meteorites on dry lakes." Cheers, Bernd __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Possible meteorite trades
Hi folks, While collecting meteorites has virtually come to a standstill (well, let's say they have been put on the backburner), it's moldavites that I am presently interested in and collecting. I also still have my stamp collection, my gold and silver coins, and my mineral collection (especially quartz, smokey quartz, rock crystals, amethysts, and agates) but don't pursue these hobbies any more. Bernd __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] King Tut's Dagger
E.P. Grondine wrote: "Bernd - can you fix the spelling and give the complete citation?" Hi All, See here: https://www.amazon.de/Metalle-besonderer-Ber%C3%BCcksichtigung-altbabylonischer-Quellen/dp/3927120499?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0 or here: https://www.eisenbrauns.com/ECOM/_4NE1FFYNI.HTM Reiter Karin (1997) Die Metalle im Alten Orient unter besonderer Berücksichtigung altbabylonischer Quellen. Regards, Bernd __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] King Tut's Blade Made of Meteorite
> http://www.seeker.com/king-tuts-space-blade-identified-1831900657.html Hi Tom and List, see also: BURKE J.G. (1986) Cosmic Debris, Meteorites in History, pp. 229-231: Uses of Meteorites Best regards, Bernd __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] O.R. Norton (+May 17, 2009)
He paved the way for so many of us! Bernd -- NORTON O.R. (1998) Are chondrites sedimentary rocks? (M! Feb. 1998, Vol. 4, No. 3, pp. 22-23). NORTON O.R. (1998) Rocks From Space, 2nd edition. NORTON O.R. (1998) The Goose Lake Meteorite (M!, Feb. 99, Vol. 5, No. 1, pp. 30-32). NORTON O.R. (1999) Is Lawrencite a myth? (M!, May 1999, Vol. 5, No. 2, pp. 22-23). NORTON O.R. (2000) So NEAR yet so far (M!, Vol. 6, No. 1, Feb 2000, pp. 22-24). NORTON O.R. (2000) Igneous clouds and chondrule rims (Meteorite, Nov 2000, Vol. 6, no.4, pp. 22-23). NORTON O.R. and TOFFOLI T. (2000) Chondrites - A novel way to photograph them (M!, Vol. 6, No. 1, Feb 2000, pp. 20-23). NORTON O.R. (2001) Centerpiece: Kapoeta - A Howardite Extra- ordinaire (Meteorite, May 2001, Vol. 7, No. 2, pp. 22-24). NORTON O.R. (2001) Ugly Ducklings of the desert (Meteorite Magazine, August 2001, Vol. 7, No. 3, pp. 22-23). NORTON O.R. (2002) The Cambridge Encyclopedia of Meteorites (Cambridge University Press, ISBN 0 521 62143 7, pp. 354). NORTON O.R. (2002) Beware the metal-rich imposter (Meteorite, February 2002, Vol. 8, No. 1, Centerpiece, pp. 22-23 + p. 39). NORTON O.R. et al. (2002) Basics of polarized light microscopy, part II (Meteorite, Centerpiece, Nov 2002, Vol. 8, No. 4, pp. 22-24). NORTON O.R. et al. (2003) Basalts of differentiated worlds (Meteorite, Centerpiece, May 2003, Vol. 9, No. 2, pp. 21-24). NORTON O.R. (2003) Petrographic Gallery of Meteorites(Meteorite Magazine, August 2003, Vol. 9, No. 3, pp. 21-24). NORTON O.R. (2008) Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites(Patrick Moore's Practical Astronomy Series, ISBN 978-1-84800-156-5, 287 pp.). __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 1996-2016 meteorite collectors / dealers
Hello All, I came into meteorites from an astronomical background. I started collecting meteorites, moldavites, tektites, and impactites in the early 1980s. First purchase was a moldavite, then followed an Australasian tektite, and soon after a small, etched Mundrabilla slice. I soon had a hunch I would be hooked for the rest of my life: a Canyon Diablo followed, then an Odessa, an Allende CV3 and Nuevo Mercurio. And, quite logical, lots of books dealing with meteorites to learn more about the subject of my addiction. Among these books the 3rd, 4th, and 5th editions of the Meteorite Catalogue, Buchwalds voluminous Iron Meteorite trilogy, Sears, Wasson, Burke, etc. Long before the Meteoritical Bulletin Database was accessible online, I had created an extensive electronic database of all meteorites (Antarctic and non-Antarctic) and of all impact structures then known. In 1987 I became a member of the Meteoritical Society, and also got subscribed to the Antarctic Meteorite Newsletter. By 1999 I had started collecting meteorite thin sections, quite a few of my first thin sections came from Al Mitterling among them Allende, Estacado, Hassayampa, Haxtun, etc. There are now 221 thin sections in my collection. Meanwhile my interest has shifted heavily toward moldavites. Last December I owned 29 moldavites, but this number has now grown to 140 of these bottle-green glasses from various localities in Bohemia, Moravia, and Lusatia. A very special honor was bestowed upon me in 2013, when a minor planet of the carbonaceous Hilda family was named after me: (247553) Berndpauli = 2002 RV234 Best regards, Bernd __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Merry Christmas & Seasons Greetings
Anne wrote: "But I think he is oriented." ... and definitely headed towards my backyard ;-) Merry Christmas everybody! Cheers, Bernd __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] In memoriam
October 10, 2007: Jim Kriegh leaves planet Earth for good. Hello Jim, you may be gone but you are not forgotten! Bernd (on behalf of the meteorite community) __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite in my grocery store.
Mike wrote: Check out what just landed in my grocery store. Geez ... cheese :-) Bernd __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk TKW
Zsolt inquires: Do you know (or estimate) anybody that what can be about the Chelyabinsk real TKW? Hello Zsolt and List, Not quite sure what you mean but Brown estimates the *original object* had a diameter of about 54 feet (17 m) and a mass of roughly 10,000 metric tons. According to the writeup from MB 101: The total mass collected by local people is certainly 100 kg and perhaps 500 kg. Regards, Bernd __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Awfully quiet
Hi all, One of my major problems is that there are only 24 hours in a day. There's Meteorite Central, there's Geoff's CSR, there's the German forum, there's kind invitations to join the French forum, and there's Facebook, there's Twitter, there's LinkedIn, there's ... ... ... ... ... ... Of course, you don't have to read every single post ... but you do, don't you ?!?! Cheers, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Awfully quiet
... or have I been dropped? Hello Tracy, Greg, List, No, you haven't been dropped but the frequency of contributions has dropped considerably. Interestingly, the same phenomenon on Geoff's CSR forum and even on our German forum. Best from Germany, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Appley Bridge meteorite talk
Hello Martin, Graham, and List, http://msg-meteorites.co.uk/meteorite-adventures/appley-bridge-meteorite-talk-book-launch/ Please take a look :-) I've taken a look and I've ordered my signed copy! Cheers, thank you! Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Who are u out side of meteorite collecting, and who impacted u
See also this thread back in the year 2000: Waht I du ... Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] BBC Stargazing Live 2015 at Leicester Racecourse
Hello Martin and List, Thank you for the link(s)! You gotta love this one: That smile says it all! ... because it *does* say it all! Maybe a future (female) meteoriticist or a planetary scientist was born right then! Cheers, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ceres and Meteorites?
Hello MikeG and List, MikeG inquires: Has Ceres ever been connected to any type of meteorite? GEHRELS TOM (1979) Asteroids (The University of Arizona Press, Tucson, Arizona, 1181 pp., Infrared Spectral Reflectances of Asteroid Surfaces, H.P. Larson and G.J. Veeder, pp. 724-744, p. 735): ... the surface of Ceres is a hydrated mineral assemblage that, if restricted to comparisons with meteorites, most closely resembles Type C2 carbonaceous chondrites...The comparison of Ceres' surface with primitive meteoritic matter is most consistent with the spectral data. Cheers, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re-2: Gold Basin
Larry writes: Hi Mike, these new meteorite finds may finally resolve a long debated issue. Bob V. directed me to this paper and you should give it a read. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2005/pdf/2352.pdf Maybe these new finds belong to the Hualapai Wash finds?! Cheers, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Gold Basin
Hi Larry Joe, Kudos and thumbs up from Germany !!! Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] RIP - Donald C. Parker, 1939-2015
Hello all, = A planetary imaging pioneer passed away in Miami, Florida. He built several telescopes during the 1950s, including an 8-inch f/7.5 Newtonian reflector that was featured in the November 1957 issue of Sky Telescope. Excerpts: A versatile observing setup with an 8-inch reflector: Don Parker finds that an old oil drum makes a convenient observing chair for lunar and planetary observing. Before the Parker telescope can be covered with its compact-fitting plywood shelter, the tube must be turned into the meridian and pointed to the north pole of the sky. Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re-2: Wanted: Healdsburg tektite
Mendy kindly wrote: These are very controversial and some very respected members of our community do not believe they are tektites at all. Among them David Kring and our late friend Darryl Futrell! Best wishes, Bernd (owner of 18 Arizonaites* - my creation ... that word ;-) * No, I won't sell or offer any of these ;-) To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Arizonaites (was: Healdsburg tektite)
Hello All, After Michael Mulgrew contacted me, I decided to sift through my emails from Jim Kriegh and Twink. I think I have to row back a little because I wrote that I once coined the word Arizonaite. The truth is that both Jim and Twink used that word in some of their mails to me back in the year 2000! Sorry for adorning myself with borrowed plumes! Cheers, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Same day (was: New fall, Nkayi Zimbabwe)
Hi folks, Same day but not same year: TREIMAN A.H. (1992) Fall days of the SNC meteorites: Evidence for an SNC meteoroid stream, and a common site of origin (Meteoritics 27-1, 1992, 93-95): Abstract-Four of the SNC meteorites of putative Martian origin are falls. Two of these fell on October 3: Chassigny in 1815 and Zagami in 1962. The probability of this coincidence arising from random fall days is approximately 1 in 60. If this coincidence is not the result of chance, it suggests that some of the SNC meteorites are derived from a meteoroid stream. In that Chassigny and Zagami span nearly the full range of SNC lithologies and histories, the coincidence of fall days is consistent with suggestions that all of the SNCs came from a single site (impact crater) on their parent planet. Cheers, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Same day (was: New fall, Nkayi Zimbabwe)
Hi folks, Same day but not same year: TREIMAN A.H. (1992) Fall days of the SNC meteorites: Evidence for an SNC meteoroid stream, and a common site of origin (Meteoritics 27-1, 1992, 93-95): Abstract-Four of the SNC meteorites of putative Martian origin are falls. Two of these fell on October 3: Chassigny in 1815 and Zagami in 1962. The probability of this coincidence arising from random fall days is approximately 1 in 60. If this coincidence is not the result of chance, it suggests that some of the SNC meteorites are derived from a meteoroid stream. In that Chassigny and Zagami span nearly the full range of SNC lithologies and histories, the coincidence of fall days is consistent with suggestions that all of the SNCs came from a single site (impact crater) on their parent planet. Cheers, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Same day (was: New fall, Nkayi Zimbabwe)
Hello again, Pavlograd (L6) fell 1826, May 19 Galapian (H6) fell 1826, Aug. but: = piece of 39 gr said to have fallen on May 19, 1826. Cheers, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Is it just me, or does this Australian meteorite look like NWA?
Michael G. wrote: I have to agree - I overlooked the obvious date, which is a few years too early for NWA. 1994 is not at all too early for NWAs. The first meteorites from the NWA dense collection areas were found as early as 1989. Here are some examples: 1989 - meteorites from the Açfer area 1989 - meteorites from the Ilafegh area Best wishes, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re-2: Met Bulletin Update: Sahara 00293
How cool (or should I say hot and shocked?) is that? I'd say a shocking S6 ;-) Some Europeans (especially the Dutch) will remember a group called Shockin' Blue ... They must have been savvy re: ringwoodite :-) Cheers, Bernd To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteoritem...@gmail.com Cc: lgar...@cox.net meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mbale -- was:The True Story of Ann Hodges: History?s Only Meteorite Victim
Hi AL and List, AL kindly wrote: See Sky and Telescope on the article. H. Betlem (1993) The day that rained stones (ST, Jun 93, pp. 96-97): A 4-gram fragment did hit a banana tree and then a boy from Doko on the head, but he was not hurt. Best to All for 2015, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 8524 LL4-6 breccia strange clast's
Hello Tomasz, To me these greenish crystals look like Fe-rich orthopyroxene crystals (hypersthene): http://www.collectingmeteorites.com/wp-content/gallery/textures/ll4-6-d.jpg To be absolutely sure, I would ask Ansgar Greshake if I were you! Best for 2015 to you and to all list members, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re-2: OT: Google broken?
No problems here, either! Bernd Original Message Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Google broken? (17-Dez-2014 22:33) From:Anne Black via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de I am on Google right now, looking up an address. And it is working for me. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Matson, Rob D. via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, Dec 17, 2014 2:24 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] OT: Google broken? Hi All, Thought my internet connection was down, but have determined it's just Google that's suddenly not working. You can go to their website, but none of the links for your search results will work. First time I've ever seen this... --Rob __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list To: robert.d.mat...@leidos.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Met Soc site down?
Dustin inquires: Anyone else getting page down for Met Bull DB website? Yes, the site is down at the moment. I tried to also access the website via: https://metsoc.meteoriticalsociety.net No luck either :-( Cheers from Germany, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Karoonda specimens larger than 2 grams
Hello Bob and List, Remember that 84 gram beauty in Bob Haag's 1989 Catalogue (p. 14), 1991 Catalogue (p.35), 1997 Catalogue (p. 35), and, 2003 = The Robert Haag Collection of Meteorites (p. 85): AMNH trade... but that's surely the exception to the rule! So you are absolutely right: Sizeable pieces of Karoonda are far beyond the average collectors' horizon! Best pre-Xmas wishes, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] M 009
Could the M stand for one of these persons? Mike Martinez Mike Miller Cheers, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] M_009.
Hello Bob, Moni, List, I concur. It sure does look like a eucrite, and, if it is very friable, it might even be Agoult or an Agoult pairing! Best wishes, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] M 009
Some other potential candidates: NWA 1109 NWA 2484 NWA 3152 NWA 4536 NWA 4890 NWA 6573 NWA 7465 Best wishes, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ensi 2014 Video
Luther kindly wrote: For those not on Facebook, here is a link to a short (15 min) video of the 'Rocks and Rock Stars' from this years show. Hello Luther, hello All, I'm not on Facebook, nor on Twitter, and not LinkedIn, either, but all I can say after watching Rocks and Stars plus BIMS Ensisheim 2014 is this: A triple Wow! and kudos! from Germany !!! Thank you very much, Luther! As for Luther's hopes: I hope you enjoy the themed soundtrack! Well, yes, I surely did, and, just as much Mike Farmer's tongue ;-) and, of course, this version of Chris Isaac's song: Wicked Game! Thanks once again and best wishes, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT' Pat Branch email address request
Dirk inquired: Does anyone have Pat Branch's email address. Dirk, have you already tried this one? = pat_bra...@yahoo.com if it doesn't work, maybe like this: = pat bra...@yahoo.com Best from Germany, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 22 Years Ago Today: Peekskill Meteorite Hit Car
Al wrote: Seems like it was just yesterday. Ron wrote: Yeah, it does. I bought my first Peekskill back then - which has red car paint on it - about 3 weeks after it had landed. I got my 13.3 gr partslice from David New about 4 months after Peekskill demolished Michelle Knapp's car. No red paint but gorgeous brecciation and thick, fresh crust! Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 2014 Munich Mineral Show
Hello All, This years Munich Mineral Show will take place from October 24-26, 2014. A special highlight this year will be a special exhibition featuring meteorites. Thats why a book can be ordered in English and/or German: The Munich Show Theme Book: Meteorites, 216 pp. hardcover. See details here: https://munichshow.com/en/shop/the-show-catalogues/ Among the authors are such illustrious persons like: Franz Brandstaetter (NHM Vienna) Ludovic Ferrière (NHM Vienna) Martin (karmaka) with a contribution on Chelyabinsk Thomas Grau (Puerto Lápice, Maribo, Neuschwanstein) Dieter Heinlein (several contributions Neuschwanstein, Oldenburg, Jesenice) Dieters wife Gabriele Heinlein (Gosses Bluff) and many others. So you see its well worth ordering this book (+ Catalogue) if interested. Hurry and get your copy as soon as possible. I can fully recommend this book (format: 20 x 26 cm / 8 x 10). Regards, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ureilite Formation
Thanks Bernd for your answer. My pleasure, Abdelfattah! Well,...and while we are at it: in addition to Dr. C. Goodrich's excellent review, I also want to direct you (and anyone interested in delving deeper into the realm of ureilites) to another must read in your efforts to under- stand these enigmatic space rocks: Rubin A.E. (2006) Shock, post-shock annealing and post-annealing shock in ureilites (MAPS 41-1, 2006, pp. 125-133). Cheers, Bernd (in Germany) To: life19ma...@yahoo.fr meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ureilite Formation
Hello Abdelfattah and List, In 1992, C.A. Goodrich wrote a very comprehensive paper about ureilite formation. If you have access to this invited review, I strongly advise you read it: GOODRICH C.A. (1992) Invited Review - Ureilites: A critical review (Meteoritics 27-4, 1992, pp. 327-352). It is almost impossible to explain in just a few words how these coarse-grained, ultramafic, highly fractionated, igneous rocks were formed. Mrs. Goodrich was well aware that ureilites have some primitive characteristics that are difficult to reconcile with extensive igneous processing. Among these are: 1) metal with high abundances of trace siderophile elements, 2) carbon which contains planetary-type noble gases; 3) the oxygen isotopic signature of primitive/unequilibrated solar system materials. Both (1) and (2) are typical of undifferentiated, chondritic (!) materials but in terms of mineralogy and lithophile element chemistry ureilites are absolutely non-chondritic. They rather resemble ultramafic rocks from the Earth and Moon. Moreover, the presence of noble gases in near-chondritic abundances is difficult to explain because gases are expected to be lost at high temperature. This is especially difficult to explain because none of the other major achondrite types contain noble gases in chondritic or near-chondritic abundances. So you probably understand that there is no easy answer to your question but I am sure Mrs. Goodrichs Review will emlighten you! Best regards, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 6 days left
Hello List, Michael, please allow me to chime in. First of all let me tell you and the MetList what you and Rogan have so far done for our Marissa is so admirable and really deserves a lot of respect and quite a bit more. I don't wear hats but if I did it would be off to you!!! We are so very close to what is the minimum amount of money we need to make this lovable, young lady's dream come true!!! But ... we can do better ... this you can believe! I, too, did donate a certain amount of money but I won't tell you how much because this is absulutely unimportant! What does count is that you donate ... now matter how much! Some of us have hundreds, even thousands of mereorites in their collections and here is a young, passionate, meteorite-loving girl who deserves our respect and our support to make it happen! She does not complain about being disabled, she does not need our Oh, what a pity! ... she is much too positive to lament her personal fate. So, open your hearts and help ... it's not the first time we do that. You will all remember G.F. (no, not the Big Kahuna!) when we felt it was our duty as list members to help one of those who was part of our list family Thank you for reading this and thank you for your donation!!! Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Darryl Futrell (+2001) Gone but not forgotten
Date: Saturday, 17 Apr 1999 Darryl: Barnes always attended meetings where O'Keefe wasn't present, such as the Meteoritical Society annual meetings. Bernd: They seem to have engaged in the same feud as La Paz and Nininger. Why don't people live together peacefully? Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] How look the inside
Salut Fabien, Hello List, Wow ! Beautiful chromite grains right above your thumbnail, gorgeous, fluffy plagioclase patches and ochre pyroxenes! What are those grayish patches? Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Torino Scale is 15-Years Old
See also: The Torino Scale: Gauging the Impact Threat Planetary Astronomers unveil a new way to assess hazard predictions for impacts by asteroids and comets in the 21st century (by J. Kelly Beatty, S T, Oct 1999, pp. 32-33). Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Largest Moldavites?
MikeG wonders: What is the largest known piece of Moldavite? and how rare are the truly-large pieces? Hello Mike and List, Prof. Dr. Vladimir Bouska, in his book 'Moldavites, the Czech tektites', p. 23, lists the largest Bohemian moldavite with 142.5 gr and the largest Moravian one with 265.5 gr but I don't know if any larger ones have been found since this book was published. Best regards, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] S. Brant's Broadsheet (was: Need help identifying a meteorite curiosity)
Hello Paul and List, I have no background info on the origin of this plaque but something else that may also be of general interest. What we see on this plaque is not Sebastian Brant's original version of the Ensisheim fall but rather the pirated edition by Johannes Prüss of Strassburg. How do we know? Brant's original broadsheet has Ensißhem, whereas the pirated version has Ensisheim (hem vs. heim). Reference: MARVIN U.B. (1992) The meteorite of Ensisheim: 1492 to 1992 (Meteoritics 27-1, 1992, 28-72). Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Marine Copter Moves Meteorite (Old Woman) - Lapidary Journal, Oct 1977
Hello Michael and List, See also: Old Woman Meteorite (Sky Telescope, Vol. 54-3, Sep 1977, p. 192). FUTRELL D.S. (1998) My visit with the Old Woman (Meteorite!, Feb 98, Vol. 4-1, pp. 34-35). NORTON O.R. (1998) The Old Woman Meteorite (Rocks From Space II, 1994, pp. 252-255, 214). Regards, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re-2: Brenham Slice Mounted in Lightbox
Graham writes: Wow Brien...that's pretty spectacular...how big is that slice? Something to fall in love with right away! Another Wow + kudos !!! Cheers, Bernd To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com cont...@briencook.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Kem Kem Meteorites - What the heck are they?
MikeG wrote: I did some extensive browsing through the List archives while trying to figure out exactly who/where the so-called Kem Kem meteorites originate from. The answer may be that Kem Kem is the name of a region where NWA meteorites have been found. MikeG also wrote: Some say that Kem Kem is a synonym for at least two different NWAxxx meteorites, including an L-chondrite and a R-chondrite. I found Kem Kem even four times in my database: NWA 0032 (LUN-B) was found west of the Kem Kem plateau (MetBull. 84, 2000, Aug). NWA 0753 (R3.9) was probably found in the Kem Kem region (MetBull. 85, 2001, Sep). NWA 0755 (R3.7) was probably found in the Kem Kem region (MetBull. 85, 2001, Sep). NWA 2096 (L3) Possible origin Kem Kem (Met.Bull. 88, A248). Moreover there is a eucrite (NWA 4051) from the Kem Kem Basin, Algeria. Well, now back to MikeG's problem. Michael Casper might have some pertinent background info because he was the first to offer Kem Kem in his sales catalog (13 December 1999) on page 14: KEM KEM. Found August, 1999. Stone. Classification pending. Kem Kem, Dahara, Morocco. The smallest fragment he offered weighed 22.4 gr and the largest 153.6 gr but he added that he had more available. Best wishes from Germany where we are having Father's Day, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fw: Re: Kem Kem Meteorites - What the heck are they?
Zelimir's post didn't make it to the List ... so, here it is: Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Kem Kem Meteorites - What the heck are they? (29-Mai-2014 12:36) From:Zelimir Gabelica zelimir.gabel...@uha.fr To: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de Dear Bernd, Hope you and Pauline are doing well! Thanks for this info. About 2 hours ago, I also sent Mike an answer (in plain text format), with copy to the MetCantralList. Mike probably received the message (though he still can be sleeping) but I did not receive my copy as member of MetCentralList. I don't know the reason but believe if your message could be sent perhaps you could help me by sending mine as well. Here it is: --- Hi Mike, As you might know, Kem Kem is a wide area in South Morocco, near the Algerian border, especially explored for various fossils. Many well known markets where NWA meteorites are currently traded (Erfoud, Er Rachidia, Zagora, Taouz, Ouzina, Foum Zguid...) are located in (close to) this area that does not seem officially defined by administrative borders (though I may be wrong for this). Here are a few links (among many others) situating the area and giving an idea of the vast desert land where obviously many meteorites are likely to exist or have been found. http://img.webme.com/pic/s/spinosauridae/kem_kem.jpg http://www.easy-raider.com/images/cartekk12.jpg http://www.easy-raider.com/moto_maroc_kemkem_ang.htm Regarding NWA meteorites, I can just mention 2 of the NWAs from my collection that were nick-named Kem Kem: NWA 052 and NWA 753. Both are described in MetBull database and said being found in the Kem Kem region Here is the short collection writeup I have added for each -- 1) NWA 052 (“Kem Kem”) (Morocco, L5 )(S3 W0/1 ), found 1998, tkw: 1@1088 g Cut individual, 80% crust, 942.5 g. History and scientific significance . Found in Central-South Morocco by Michel Franco who sold it under the pseudo “Kem Kem”. Acquired from Michel Franco in 1999 --- 2) NWA 753 (“Kem Kem” ) (“Sahara”, R3.9 )(S2 W2 ), found 2001, tkw: Many@12.18+ kg. Full slice, 93% crust around, 31.89 g. History and scientific significance . Another “Kem Kem pseudo (see NWA 052 ), suggesting that the country could also be Morocco. Purchased in Rissani. Acquired from Ali Hmani in 2002. I then purchased another small full slice (3.73 g) of the same in 2006 from Stefan Ralew. It is possible that these two probably correspond to the L-chondrite and R-chondrite you are mentioning. Although my NWA 052 sample seems to be the main mass (by far), it is also possible that the other missing fragments were sold around or also that more such fragments (individuals...) were found later in the same area, or also that your l-chondrite is another meteorite from the vast Kem Kem area. Considering the large tkw of the R3.9 and its rare type, it is quite likely that your R-chondrite is NWA 753. See the many pics shown in the database. Hope this can help. I guess many collectors might help you further by providing more data or anecdotes regarding meteorites found in Kem Kem region or having received received this nickname by the finders in early times when very few NWAs were officially documented. Cheers, Zelimir --- What I forgot to mention is that these 2 Kem Kems I purchased were offered with that (provisional) name, thus before they were classified later as NWAs. Thanks very much for this help. My ever best wishes, Zelimir __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Kem Kem Meteorites - What the heck are they?
More meteorites from the *Kem Kem* region detected in my database: NWA 001 - NWA 032 - NWA 050 - NWA 051 - NWA 052 NWA 752 - NWA 753 - NWA 755 - NWA 1198 - NWA 2096 NWA 4051 Cheers, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mike Miller in ICU
Ian writes: Though one may be overpowered, two can defend them- selves. A cord of three strands is not quickly broken. Our thoughts and prayers are with Mike!!! Mike on Wednesday, June 06, 2007: I have recently found the new main mass of Glorieta. It weighs 300 pounds there are no olivines present on the surface however some believe the mass is too big to be just iron. ... and Mike is a big, strong man who does not give up easily! God bless, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] O.R. Norton (+2009)
Gone but *never* forgotten! Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Test ...
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