[meteorite-list] Gold Basin Group Outing
This past weekend (Nov. 8-10th) my father and I drove up to Gold Basin, AZ for the Nuggetshooter.com group outing. It's pretty hard to find meteorites at GB anymore so I was surprised at our finds. Below is a link to my Flickr album containing photos from the hunt: https://www.flickr.com/photos/fislermeteorites/sets/72157648876507848/ If anyone is interesting in viewing other photos from our hunts over the years, below is a link to my entire Flickr photo-stream: https://www.flickr.com/fislermeteorites Erik Fisler phx.e.f...@gmail.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NASA space budget criticism
Hello list, I thought I'd share this funny comeback to criticism of our government's space budget posted on imgur.com Here's the link: http://imgur.com/tI8IsyR Enjoy! -Erik Sent from my iPhone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Franconia AREA (was, Re: ...terminology...)
You mean all those H3-5's are paired?!? Lord. I think people forget that there are LL's, L's and H's found from the Gold Basin fall. To say that a mass from a parent body large enough to have a strewn field of this size and TKW should be one homogeneous petro.-type is silly. This business of trying to classify every stone as a different fall for what ever selfish or perverse reason along with having a personal attachment to the outcome of the over all conclusion is ridiculous and completely against the scientific method. How many of those YDCA or what ever H3-5's have been found outside the mapped strewn field? And how far? -Erik Fisler Sent from my iPhone On Apr 26, 2013, at 11:02 PM, Robert Verish bolidecha...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi All, Just read another article in the 2013 March edition of MPS, Stones from Mohave County, Arizona: Multiple falls in the 'Franconia strewn field' by Melinda Hutson, et al. There is much to digest from this 5-author paper that is 25 pages long. What with 14 stones being studied and 7 pairings to be described, there is a lot to chew on. Here's something to chew on. According to this paper, Much unclassified material that has been distributed [sold] as 'Franconia' may not be from the Franconia fall. The authors make a case that more than half of the finds made in the Franconia area are paired to the Buck Mountain Wash fall. It has taken 10 years, but these findings show that I was justified in my belly-aching about all of the self-pairing that was occurring back then. It was on this very List that I was strongly criticized for this, and many dealers that thought they knew better defended their God-given right to name their stones after the Franconia meteorite that I got classified. A closer look at the MetBull images for Franconia shows that very few of them are from the Franconia fall. I offer no apologies for taking great satisfaction in the fact that I am now vindicated. The paper goes on to show that every Sacramento Wash numbered meteorite is paired to Buck Mountain Wash, which effectively has resulted in the demise of the SaW DCA and hastened the formation of the Yucca DCA. As I said, if you read this paper, there's a lot more to digest. It's late and I'm thinking about chewing on an antacid pill. -- Bob V. --- On Thu, 4/25/13, Jim Wooddell jimwoodd...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jim Wooddell jimwoodd...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - IMB or SMB? The nomenclature of Melts. To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thursday, April 25, 2013, 5:29 PM Hi All! Just a point of information. I just read Dr. Rubin's paper, Multiple melting in a four-layered barred-olivine chondrule with compositionally heterogeneous glass from LL3.0 Semarkona Whew! That's a title for a paper! While we are on the subject of melts, I thought I'd point-out this paper. Enjoyed reading it the first timeactually understood some of it and will read it once again after thinking about it for a while. You folks might enjoy reading it when you get a chance! Thanks Alan!! Jim Wooddell ++ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball. Phx, AZ. 10:06pm 2.12.13
Just saw a fireball from my porch moving at a 45-55 degree angle from the horizon while I was facing south with Camelback Mountain in my view. The fireball went below the mountains heading North. I didn't see it break up but with light pollution factored in I feel it was probably big enough to have dropped material in another state north of AZ. For reference my house is roughly 60th st and Thomas in Scottsdale, AZ. Time to check sky cams! Email me at phx.e.f...@gmail.com with questions as I probably won't see replies from the list on the alternate email I am subscribed to the list on. Happy Lincoln's birthday and happy Tucson show! -Erik Fisler Yeah we go hard, rock hard. Sent from my iPhone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Holbrook 100th Anniversary Hunt
Here is a link to the finds My father and I made this last weekend's group hunt. If you weren't there you missed out. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fislermeteorites/ -Erik __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Laurence Garvie
Does anyone have Laurence's new office phone number? If so please send it to me off list. I understand the Dep. of Meteoritics has moved across campus to some new location. -Erik Fisler Sent from my iPhone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunting Photos
For those who have not seen our photos, here is our Flickr account. Flickr.com/fislermeteorites Also, if anyone would like to meet up for day hunts or weekend hunts between now and August then email me at phx.e.f...@gmail.com for collaboration. I'm more than happy to arrange training hunts or private one on one hunts. We're doing a day hunt today North of Phoenix. Wish us luck. Sincerely, Erik Ben Fisler Sent from my iPhone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Franconia Iron with Attached Chondrite Material
Hi list, I only had time to hunt Franconia for two days this Spring Break. Usually Nate Ditto and I blaze the Franconia, Gold Basin and Red lake strewn fields for 4-7 days annually, not counting our other hunts during the year. This time I went out with my father and Gary Spraggins to find Gary his first meteorite. Unfortunately I only had the chance to hunt with Nate Ditto for only the first day. I did not manage to stumble onto any monster size chondrites this trip but there is always the next trip. Luckily I was consistently hitting targets through out the two days. I managed to find seven chondrites ranging from 1g to the biggest being only 50 grams. I do not have my scale at my apartment so weights will come soon. I also managed to run across nine irons, all very good size and most of them were oriented as apposed to the irons that 'peeled' out at a lower elevation break up. One of the irons I noticed still had some chondrite attached to it! Here's a photo of the iron with attached chondrite material: http://www.flickr.com/photos/78521917@N03/6883889162/in/photostream/lightbox/ p.s. Congrats to Gary for finding his first meteorite. Enjoy -Erik __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Franconia Iron with Attached Chondrite Material
Hi list, I only had time to hunt Franconia for two days this Spring Break. Usually Nate Ditto and I blaze the Franconia, Gold Basin and Red lake strewn fields for 4-7 days annually, not counting our other hunts during the year. This time I went out with my father and Gary Spraggins to find Gary his first meteorite. Unfortunately I only had the chance to hunt with Nate Ditto for only the first day. I did not manage to stumble onto any monster size chondrites this trip but there is always the next trip. Luckily I was consistently hitting targets through out the two days. I managed to find seven chondrites ranging from 1g to the biggest being only 50 grams. I do not have my scale at my apartment so weights will come soon. I also managed to run across nine irons, all very good size and most of them were oriented as apposed to the irons that 'peeled' out at a lower elevation break up. One of the irons I noticed still had some chondrite attached to it! Here's a photo of the iron with attached chondrite material: http://www.flickr.com/photos/78521917@N03/6883889162/in/photostream/lightbox/ p.s. Congrats to Gary for finding his first meteorite. Enjoy -Erik __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Iron Blebs in Chondrites (Need photos!)
Does anyone have any photos of iron blebs/globs/veins either in slices or preferably ablating from the exterior of a stone? Not from Franconia area meteorites but from other falls? -Erik Fisler __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components
Breaking away from invisible men in the sky and back to science.. Amino acids alone make up 60 ppm of Murchison, by weight. PAHs make up 0.3% of its weight. Earth formed with huge quantities of organic molecules. Today’s biosphere has ~ 3 x 1041 C atoms. If the early Earth had this many C atoms all in building block molecules with ~ 10 C atoms each, that’s ~ 3 x 1040 total molecules. Say there are ~ 105 molecules with up to 10 C atoms (uracil, dihydroxyacetone, naphthalene, etc.). That means there are ~ 3 x 1035 copies of each molecule on Earth. The volume of Earth's oceans and land is 1025 cm3. Each thimbleful (cubic centimeter) of ocean had 3 x 1010 cm3 copies of each of these different organic compounds. Each one can bang into each other one in a matter of minutes, potentially making ~ 1010 new combinations. Each day, lightning, solar radiation, volcanic heat, heat from impacts, breaks apart molecules, making more new combinations possible. Mixing in the oceans increased the combinations possible. This went on, day after day after day, for 100 billion days (300 Myr) [Erik] - Original Message - From: Dick Lipke richardli...@comcast.net To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components I promise this is the last on this issue. I always believed religions were created after the first humans began to become aware what the meaning of death really meant. Maybe that's when emotions took a giant leap and evolved into affection and love.The creation of religion eased their grief by believing in a after life for the loss of a loved one or friend. Richard Lipke - Original Message - Eric postulates... And this might be offensive to some, and I'm sorry if offends, but speculating that an anthropomorphic deity started it, is pure speculation, because no one knows what happened before, in the beginning, and it creates the creator to explain the unexplained formation of the observable. Why can't the unexplained stop and start at I don't know, lets find out. instead of god did it. Eric, I think the attached article published in the national media today will go a long way toward answering your question. This NASA scientist is described by his fellow workers as an evangelical Christian that insisted on proselytizing at work. http://www.centredaily.com/2012/03/11/3122308/suit-nasa-specialist-axed-over.html Most persons of faith believe they have had revealed to them the entire creation story and aren't interested in anyone trying to change their beliefs. They know, and I believe fear, that to accept any of the science would mean having to strip whole pages out of what they are taught is divine revelation. Respectfully, I suggest you give it up, or take it somewhere else. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: e...@meteoritesusa.com Sent: Mar 11, 2012 9:08 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components Good points Richard, Michael, (I will apologize in advance for the length of this post; I started writing a couldn't stop) Divine Creation vs Natural Formation. That is the question. That is a VERY large part of why I love meteorites so much. Meteorites have allowed me a look into the universe and answer some very important personal, spiritual, and scientific questions as to the origins of Earth, the planets, and ourselves. Meteorites are keys to unlocking our past, the formation of Earth, the solar system, stars, galaxies, and ultimately the universe itself. The problem with the divine creation (anthropomorphic creator) hypothesis is that it's an assumption of observance. In other words the watchmaker paradox. The universe exists, how did it come to be? Something must have created it. Right? Not necessarily. That my friends is an absolute assumption. And the argument should stop right there, but it doesn't. Believers will argue that something can't come from nothing and non-believers will argue that everything came from what we perceive as nothing. (The Big Bang) Science and non-believers go one step further and say We don't know what happened before the Big Bang. That is intellectual honesty and good science. And this might be offensive to some, and I'm sorry if offends, but speculating that an anthropomorphic deity started it, is pure speculation, because no one knows what happened before, in the beginning, and it creates the creator to explain the unexplained formation of the observable. Why can't the unexplained stop and start at I don't know, lets find out. instead of god did it.? Evolution, Panspermia, Transpermia, Abiogenesis, Planetary Science, Astrobiology, Astronomy, Anthropology, Archeology, they all help explain the universe and world around us. Meteorites specifically are
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Great finds Jason! Glad you've come so far in your skills and expertise in the Franconia and Gold Basin fields. It's always fun bumping into you in the field. It's also great to see Jim Woodell putting so much effort into solving the mysteries of the Franconia area meteorites and the multiple strewn fields that are all so well preserved in that terrain. It's great to see someone picking up where Jim Smaller left off (RIP.) I'll be out in that area with Nate Ditto March 16-21 for my spring break. Let me know if you can drive down from Vegas to meet up with us. I might go hunt Red Dry Lake for a day as those meteorites are more interesting and there's actually a market for them. (Unlike Franconia and Gold Basin.) [Erik] - Original Message - From: valpar...@aol.com valpar...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 4:00 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day Franconia Irons(!) http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball 28FEB12 12:17am
I was in the parking lot in my apartment complex and saw another fire ball last night! It was a short window of view time as it was almost directly above me. It was heading north west. View time approximately 1 second. Location: basically Smith and University Drive, Tempe, AZ. [Erik] Sent from my iPod __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Cutting with water soluble oils?
Is it okay to cut chondrites with water soluble oil in an oil saw or will that screw with the classification? [Erik] Sent from my iPod __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tucson Once Again
Hi All, Another great year in Tucson! It was great rubbing elbows with friends again and it was great meeting some new people and also putting some faces and personalities onto names I've only heard about. It was my first year attending the Birthday Bash which was a pleasure of course and the Blood Auction was interesting as always. I'm glad I was present at various rooms to watch some people get a hold of some very nice meteorites like Will's big lunar he scored off of Anne Black, or our buddy Gary's large entstate, or even just the beautiful unclassified stones I watched a few people pull from the depths of the unsorted boxes. What I love about the Tucson Show is seeing the hottest new item on the market, digging through the dirty unclassified NWA's, the buying, the trading, the selling, and of course that delicious Gold Basin cake. What I really love the most is the community. Dave Gheesling put it right when he said that this is one of the few occasions we all get to come together and talk meteorites with people just as weird as we are. (some weirder.) I want to thank everyone that remembered me and shared a conversation with my father or I. Furthermore, I want to say thank you and welcome to the new comers who's first show it was. In addition, thank you to those who bought some of my material off of Anne Black, that finances my new additions to my collection of small pieces of what ever I have my heart set on. I'm terrible with names and I've been practicing remembering everyone's names I promise... Anyone is welcome to add me on Google Plus and or Facebook. You can also private email me with your name and information for those of you who I talked about hunting with or trading with. My father and I will be up early to pick up some last minute things at the Hotel Tucson before swinging back through Riverpark before our departure back to Phoenix around noon. I hope all the dealers made their trip worth while and that goes for all collectors too. Sincerely, Erik Fisler __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Aubrites are ugly in such beautiful way that you can't help but want one. Thanks for sharing another great photo. Kudos to the owners of all these stones, the photographers and for bringing another great photo and specimen everyday. It makes the list worth checking daily. (especially during class...) [Erik] Sent from my iPod On Jan 19, 2012, at 4:00 AM, valpar...@aol.com wrote: Pena Blanca Spring http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Provenance of Universities' Material
I wonder if it's a good idea to buy parent body real estate hehe Sent from my iPod On Jan 18, 2012, at 2:20 PM, MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com wrote: Hey Sterling and Adam Why? Because in 500 years, untouched asteroids will become contact-prohibited quarantined nature preserves. If we buy a Golden Age Passport now, can we get a Grandfather clause both to visit and to collect a daily BLM-sized 25 pounds plus one large piece up to 250 pounds per year? BTW, it seems coins found on US managed public lands over 100 years old are now in the illegal to remove column. Golden Age Passport: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Age_Passport Kindest wishes Doug -Original Message- From: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, Jan 18, 2012 2:59 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Provenance of Universities' Material Adam, List, 100 years from now, we'll be de-orbiting asteroids and moving them into HEO (high Earth Orbit) to chew them up as a resource. 300 years from now, we be in the Zone, dismantling them there, surveying, sampling, coring, lasering... Contaminating. Every REALLY fresh meteorite currently found on Earth now should be curated en vacuo and handled in a reasonably sterile lab manner for the next half-millennium. Why? Because in 500 years, untouched asteroids will become contact-prohibited quarantined nature preserves. Of course, not going to happen... unless a university does it with select specimens. Sterling K. Webb --- - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Provenance of Universities' Material Hopefully the scientists and curators of the future will be more sample oriented. A meteorite from the asteroid belt, Mars,the Moon or any other yet to be proven locations doesn't care where it lands. A hundred years from now, future stewards of the stones may ask what the hell were they thinking back then? Best Regards, Adam __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Provenance of Universities' Material
Hello List again, I was pondering the posts from University Experience and the very exciting posts on the new lunar material along with an announcement from ASU's School of Space Exploration's new acquisition of the 349g main mass from the Tissint fall today. This brings up an interesting question to my mind; What percentage of acquired material Universities and museums around the world posses have been recovered by private hunters. (not by government or university or museum field groups or Antarctican hunts.) Surely the percentage must be within 98-99% [Erik] Sent from my iPod __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Provenance of Universities' Material
My apologies, I meant classifications/parings not individuals. [Erik] Sent from my iPod On Jan 17, 2012, at 8:42 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: Most museums and institutions who recognize rarity and value now integrate world-class NWA specimens into their collections. The Royal Ontario Museum comes to mind who has an amazing collection. I think the ratio will favor hot-desert finds soon. Their beauty rarity and value cannot be ignored. A meteorite has no control where it lands. A meteorite is a still a meteorite once a meteoroid touches the Earth. We are fortunate that the Sahara desert preserves them well. Kind Regards, Adam __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] University Experience :P
Well Hello there fellow list members! I'd like to step out of the shadows and share some of my experiences now that I'm working my way through my junior year of my space exploration degree at ASU. Being that I completed my associates degree from a community college (which a very friendly and welcoming environment) and have now transferred to ASU, I have noticed some interesting things in the environment of a university. One very interesting thing I've noticed is that engineers look down their noses at scientists and vice versa. I think that is the funniest thing! It's really enjoyable to hear an engineer or a scientist make some jab at the other team. Apparently it's not just at ASU but at UofA and NAU as well so I've heard from friends attending those schools. That is a terrible rivalry or what ever you'd like to call it which can only lead to issues in collaboration between both groups. Another interesting 'preconceived notion' I've experienced is that as far a meteorite go, people at the university, professors and students, see meteorite hunters almost like pirates, sucking up material the university is entitled to. I let my astrophysics class including my professor hurl all sorts of silly notions at me before I clarified what meteorite hunting is like. I'm sure their view has been skewed from shows like Meteorite Men and from some of the Saharan Hunters. I explained that the Meteorite Men have special permission to hunt some of those fields and that they are hunting fields in which there is no shortage of material for universities. I explained that hunters like in the South Western United States spend months and months before finding new falls and that it is almost impossible to profit as a meteorite hunter, baring few exceptions. I also explained that hunting fields like Franconia or Gold Basin have so much material that there is more than enough for Uni versities to acquire. I also explained that the extreme drop in Austrailian finds to almost none is actually inhibiting those Universities from acquiring new material for research and discovery of new meteorite types. On top of that I explained that a University doesn't need 30 kilos of material to study lol. Meteorite hunters find a field, donate 20g's or 20% or sometimes kilos worth a material for classification. It's very important that this is how hunters process their finds along with meticulous collection habits like GPSing and recording each find so these unknowing educates have no ammunition when they come for our hunting rights. It was an eye opening experience for me to see that even though they can be highly experienced they aren't all as understanding as Laurence Garvie and the other select few educates we all work with. It's scary to think they project these notions on to the students who flow semester after semester through their classes. Raising awareness and educating people is how we can keep our hunting freedoms and how we can protect future meteorite discoveries from terrestrialization as a result of draconian legislations. [Erik] Sent from my iPod __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] University Experience
Thanks Mark, see you in Tucson as well! I'll be at the birthday bash for the first time as I am now 21 ;) Bob, universities actually do make trades and buy new material. I was lucky enough to be let into the vault and there was kilos and kilos of new stuff that had been traded and bought to add or to replace collection pieces. Garvie is very adamant about improving ASU's collection. [Erik] Sent from my iPod On Jan 16, 2012, at 8:39 PM, Erik Fisler phxe...@yahoo.com wrote: Well Hello there fellow list members! I'd like to step out of the shadows and share some of my experiences now that I'm working my way through my junior year of my space exploration degree at ASU. Being that I completed my associates degree from a community college (which a very friendly and welcoming environment) and have now transferred to ASU, I have noticed some interesting things in the environment of a university. One very interesting thing I've noticed is that engineers look down their noses at scientists and vice versa. I think that is the funniest thing! It's really enjoyable to hear an engineer or a scientist make some jab at the other team. Apparently it's not just at ASU but at UofA and NAU as well so I've heard from friends attending those schools. That is a terrible rivalry or what ever you'd like to call it which can only lead to issues in collaboration between both groups. Another interesting 'preconceived notion' I've experienced is that as far a meteorite go, people at the university, professors and students, see meteorite hunters almost like pirates, sucking up material the university is entitled to. I let my astrophysics class including my professor hurl all sorts of silly notions at me before I clarified what meteorite hunting is like. I'm sure their view has been skewed from shows like Meteorite Men and from some of the Saharan Hunters. I explained that the Meteorite Men have special permission to hunt some of those fields and that they are hunting fields in which there is no shortage of material for universities. I explained that hunters like in the South Western United States spend months and months before finding new falls and that it is almost impossible to profit as a meteorite hunter, baring few exceptions. I also explained that hunting fields like Franconia or Gold Basin have so much material that there is more than enough for U ni versities to acquire. I also explained that the extreme drop in Austrailian finds to almost none is actually inhibiting those Universities from acquiring new material for research and discovery of new meteorite types. On top of that I explained that a University doesn't need 30 kilos of material to study lol. Meteorite hunters find a field, donate 20g's or 20% or sometimes kilos worth a material for classification. It's very important that this is how hunters process their finds along with meticulous collection habits like GPSing and recording each find so these unknowing educates have no ammunition when they come for our hunting rights. It was an eye opening experience for me to see that even though they can be highly experienced they aren't all as understanding as Laurence Garvie and the other select few educates we all work with. It's scary to think they project these notions on to the students who flow semester after semester through their classes. Raising awareness and educating people is how we can keep our hunting freedoms and how we can protect future meteorite discoveries from terrestrialization as a result of draconian legislations. [Erik] Sent from my iPod __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] intro
Yes, you are aloud to hunt in the United States. I would stick to deserts if you do to increase your chances. Good luck [Erik] Sent from my iPod On Oct 27, 2011, at 2:09 PM, Gary Mckerracher gmckerrac...@hotmail.com wrote: hi list my name is Gary Mckerracher i live in osseo ontario canada so yes im hunting for the osseo iron in my spare time.im new to meteorite hunting/collecting so i have not found one yet,im planning a 14 day trip for next summer after reading about mikes trip to nwa i dont think that would be a good first trip.any suggestions?im also lookin for a Buzzard Coulee around $200 if you have one want to sell let me know.is it legal for a canadian to hunt public land in the states? thanks have a great day Gary Mckerracher __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Franconia Group Hunt Report Posted
Thanks for sharing Jim. That iceberg is a pretty one! Congrats on all your finds. Wish my professors would cut me a break so I could go out and hunt. [Erik] Sent from my iPod On Oct 10, 2011, at 7:48 AM, Jim Wooddell nf11...@npgcable.com wrote: Hi All! I posted my hunt report on the Franconia Birthday Hunt on my webpage below under recent findings. Enjoy! Jim Jim Wooddell https://k7wfr.us __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Short Franconia hunt today - Report
That's funny Jim. I seem to always have the worst/best luck of trying to ground balance over a chondrite at Franconia. Talk about first world problems! Erik Sent from my iPod On Sep 26, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Jim Wooddell nf11...@npgcable.com wrote: And interesting way to find meteorites. On the website below under recent finds or the Scrapbook. Enjoy! Jim Wooddell https://k7wfr.us __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] wow
This basalt mesa is covered in meteorites. LOLOLOL. He must spend hours using a metal detector to dig up basalt. I can't stop laughing. -Erik Fisler Sent from my iPod On Sep 29, 2011, at 7:06 PM, Doug Ross d...@dougross.net wrote: Hi all, It's amazing how much notoriety Steve Curry continues to generate, despite having no real allies and no credibility in the community. Merely being provocative seems to be enough to grab the headlines. Fortunately, through a coordinated effort by members of the IMCA, Mr. Curry has now been banned from selling on ebay as of today. I can't take any credit as I wasn't involved personally, but I'm proud of the IMCA members who have taken a stand for authenticity, despite personal attacks and threats of retribution. Doug Ross IMCA #2641 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor Likely Cause of Southwest U.S. Light Show
I do not think it burned up as I saw it streak, break up, hit dark flight and then go completely dark. [Erik] From: Ron Baalke baa...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 2:00 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteor Likely Cause of Southwest U.S. Light Show http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2011-291 Meteor Likely Cause of Southwest U.S. Light Show Jet Propulsion Laboratory September 15, 2011 PASADENA, Calif. - A meteor is the most probable cause of a bright, colorful fireball witnessed by people in a wide swath of the southwestern United States, according to Don Yeomans, manager of NASA's Near-Earth Object Program Office at JPL. Residents from Southern California to Arizona to Las Vegas reported seeing a streak of light move rapidly from west to east around 7:45 p.m. PDT on Wednesday, Sept. 14. We're virtually certain this bright display was caused by a meteor, probably the size of a baseball or basketball, that burned up in Earth's atmosphere. It appeared much larger because of the heated and glowing atmosphere along its path, said Yeomans. Many eyewitnesses described seeing brilliant colors of blue, green and orange. Yeomans said the blue or green colors indicate the meteor contained nickel or magnesium, while orange would mean the object was traveling relatively slowly for a meteor, but still moving a few miles per second. A meteor is a small fragment of an asteroid. Yeomans said that similar fireballs from asteroids enter Earth's atmosphere every week or so, but they usually take place over the ocean or in a sparsely populated area. This time, Yeomans says, The fireball was very bright and provided a harmless but memorable light show for people in numerous cities and towns in the southwestern states. More information about fireballs, from the American Meteor Society, is online at: http://www.amsmeteors.org/fireballs/faqf/ . More information about asteroids is online at: http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/asteroidwatch and on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/asteroidwatch . Veronica McGregor 818-354-9452/Jane Platt 818-354-0880 Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. veronica.mcgre...@jpl.nasa.gov / jane.pl...@jpl.nasa.gov 2011-291 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Any Info on South Pole Aitken?
Hello List, Does anyone have any articles or sources of information for the crater at the south pole of the moon, South Pole Aitken ? Any help would be appreciated. Thank you, -Erik Fisler __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Green Fireball in Tempe, AZ.
Hi list. I just went for a quick lap around my apartments at McClintock and University here in Tempe. I started at approx 7:45pm GMT and while I was running south I saw a vibrant green fireball streak, break up and then it went dark. Unfortunately I wasn't close enough to hear a sonic boom but I did hear a very soft pop like a bottle rocket far away. It appeared to be 25 degrees West of South and was about 20-30 degrees from the horizon. It's was moving fairly slow so I assume it was far south. Can someone check Doppler? It must have had a better sighting further South like in Casa Grande or Tucson. [Erik] __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor Fireball Report Las Vegas, Nevada USA 19:45 PDT 9/14/2011
That is the fireball I just saw! same description heading West to East, moderate magnitude of brightness. - Original Message - From: Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net To: lunarmeteoritehun...@gmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 7:57 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteor Fireball Report Las Vegas, Nevada USA 19:45 PDT 9/14/2011 Hi List, Large bolide observed South East of Las Vegas. Originated 20' above Southern horizon traveling South to East slight down angle. Bright as moon. Duration about three seconds, but observer did not see first part of fireball. Estimate durantion at five to six seconds. Fragmentation. Appeared to terminate in Arizona at least as far South and East of Las Vegas as Bull Head City, probably further. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Green Fireball in Tempe, AZ.
Yes Mark that would be the time I was trying to describe, 7:45 local time. I posted right away within 3 minutes of seeing it. [Erik] From: Mark Bowling mina...@yahoo.com To: Erik Fisler phxe...@yahoo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 9:14 PM Subject: Re: Green Fireball in Tempe, AZ. Erik, Do you mean 7:45 pm local time? About 10 minutes before your post? Very exciting - hopefully someone caught this one on camera! Thanks, Mark From: Erik Fisler phxe...@yahoo.com To: Meteorite List Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 7:54 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Green Fireball in Tempe, AZ. Hi list. I just went for a quick lap around my apartments at McClintock and University here in Tempe. I started at approx 7:45pm GMT and while I was running south I saw a vibrant green fireball streak, break up and then it went dark. Unfortunately I wasn't close enough to hear a sonic boom but I did hear a very soft pop like a bottle rocket far away. It appeared to be 25 degrees West of South and was about 20-30 degrees from the horizon. It's was moving fairly slow so I assume it was far south. Can someone check Doppler? It must have had a better sighting further South like in Casa Grande or Tucson. [Erik] __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunting Laws
Hi all, Here's a funny link. This is how certain countries view themselves in regards to their strict meteorite laws... lol http://imgur.com/gallery/wAdJV [Erik] __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Marvin Killgore Makes It onto imgur.com!
So imgur.com is a website that has images posted and displays the most popular images on the front page for each day. Each image can be upvoted or downvoted which keeps boring pictures off the site. The comments on each image work with the same upvote/downvote system. Today I found a photo of Marvin holding his massive slice of Fukang pallasite. Congratulations Marvin, it's not easy to make front page! here's the link to the image of Marvin: http://imgur.com/gallery/GU5Tc and here's a link to the daily imgur.com galleries: http://imgur.com/gallery/hot [Erik] __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook under the microscope...
Nick, Love the photos, that's really great resolution! I wouldn't say the average size of finds are falling. You can ask Anne Black, my dad and I always come back from a trip with three or four stones in the 3-7 gram range and every other time with a 10-12gram stone. here's a video of one of our hunts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx98yRvqK3E I would say it depends on the weather the week before you arrive and the weather while you are hunting. Different combos can yield different finds in different spots. ^.^ [Erik] - Original Message From: Nicholas Gessler, Ph.D. nick.gess...@duke.edu To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, July 20, 2011 7:46:37 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Holbrook under the microscope... Thanks to Ruben Garcia and everyone on the 99th Anniversary hunt for an enjoyable and enlightening weekend. I've uploaded images of a number of the smallest finds collected by me and the ants. Collecting soil samples at regular intervals, washing them through standard screens, separating the residue with magnets and examining what's left under the microscope may tell us something more about the 1912 fall. With the notable exception of a few, the average size of finds seems to be falling. http://www.duke.edu/web/isis/gessler/holbrook.htm Nick Gessler __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Test
test -Erik __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Photos of Holbrook Anniversary Hunt Finds
Hello All, It was a pleasure to watch so many hunters make so many finds at Holbrook for the group hunt! I was very happy to be asked to help guide hunters for the group hunt. I spent 5+ hours of my 19 hours in the field over Friday/Saturday/Sunday instructing hunters on where to hunt and what to look for and I can say it was awesome watching them grin when I verified their finds. Kudos to Jim and Ruben for doing most of the behind the scenes organizing for the hunt. There is a lot of patience involved with juggling 50 people and those who really listened walked away with the knowledge to find something that day or in the future. My finds from Friday and through the morning Saturday consisted of 3 individuals, 2 fragments and a piece that was just fusion crust all for a total of less than 2 grams and my father was kicking my butt!! After spending most of my morning driving back and forth from the hotel room to the strewn field and guiding hunters I decided to pick up my father and the small group he had taken on a hunt. He asked me where I wanted to hunt and I told him I had seen Moni and Bob moving towards a flat in the middle of the north side and I wanted to beat them too it so we headed to the spot I had my eye on with the family he was guiding and began to search. That's when I found a few fragments with in a few centimeters from each other stuck in the clay on the surface. I had my dad drive the truck over so I could bring out the shovel and sieve, (as we had plaid the fragment game before). A few people surrounded as I slowly and carefully broke up the clay into the sieve. I had about fifty grams in fragments when my shovel clinked against a much bigger piece in the ground and everyone froze with excitement. That's when I pulled out the 240 gram piece It took about an hour and a half to recover the 160 grams in fragments and the 240 gram stone for a total of a 400 gram find. As far Holbrook goes, besides Larry's whopper, I haven't heard of that big of a find in the last few decades. Ontop of that Richard had another mongo find of 47 grams which is extremely rare for Holbrook in 2011. Together we have over 500 Holbrooks with a 90% of them individuals, average size 1-2 grams and before that point my biggest was 23 grams and my father had found one around 30+ grams. It amazes me that there was a 400g find and a 47g find along with s many other stones all found in the same day, regardless if there were fifty hunters or 1000 hunters. Anywho... here is a link to the photos. I uploaded them to my new Google+ account which is linked to Picasa. For those of you who don't know, Google+ is a networking site by Google that is still under testing and is only available to those invited by people who are testing it, for now anyway. So if anyone wants to try Google+ shoot me an email and I'll shoot you an invite. Also since this is my first time using it to host an album it would be great if I got some reviews on how easy/difficult and how good/bad it is to decide if I'll use it again. Photos: https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/104550188270087713656/albums/5630939129597014113 Thanks! [Erik] __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Photos of Holbrook Anniversary Hunt Finds
Thanks All! Jeff - I'm using the Canon XSi. It's not about the camera, it's about the lens. I have a $1200 lens on a $300 camera! I just bought the new Canon 100mm f/2.8L Macro USM. Don't make the mistake and fall for the megapixel trap. Too many megapixels make for smaller pixels which makes for more grain! :( On a point and shoot, 3MP is perfect, anything more than 5MP is insane. On a consumer or Semi-Pro DSLR 8MP is perfect, anything more than 12MP is insane. On a Pro level DSLR 12MP is perfect, anything more than 22MP is insane. Problem is the marketing departments want you to think more MP = more definition. This ONLY matters when printing bigger than 8x11 A good set up would be any basic Canon DSLR used in good condition or new. I know fashion photographers and even wedding photographers who have these basic entry level cameras and make $100k to $150k a year through photography with amazing photos. Remember, it's all about the lenses. So if you buy a camera just buy the BODY ONLY. because stock lenses suck. Examples: XT - (8MP) XS - (10MP) XSi - (12.2MP) T3 - (12.2MP) XTi - (10.1MP) T1i - (15.1MP) T2i - (18MP) WAYYY TOOO MANYY PIXELS but HD video is worth purchase. T3i - (18MP) WAYYY TOOO MANYY PIXELS but HD video is worth purchase. 50D - (15.1MP) --- semipro body with sturdy magnesium form factor. Here are some nice lenses that would work for shooting finds and people too. I put stars next to my favorites. I've shot with all of these and read the reviews on them and every single one is amazing. - *Canon EF 100mm f/2.8L IS USM Macro - Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro USM - Canon EF 50mm f/2.5 Compact Macro (Affordable) - *Canon 50mm f/1.4 (Affordable, also sharpest, most fast focusing lens from Canon) - *Canon 24-70mm f/2.8L USM - Canon 24-105mm f/4L IS USM [Erik] - Original Message From: Jeff Kuyken i...@meteorites.com.au To: Erik Fisler phxe...@yahoo.com Sent: Tue, July 19, 2011 2:44:27 AM Subject: Re: Photos of Holbrook Anniversary Hunt Finds Hey Erik... awesome pics! What camera are you using? And if you're sending out invites, I'd love to give Google+ a try. I have google email at jkuy...@gmail.com. Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: Erik Fisler phxe...@yahoo.com To: Meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 5:04 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Photos of Holbrook Anniversary Hunt Finds Hello All, It was a pleasure to watch so many hunters make so many finds at Holbrook for the group hunt! I was very happy to be asked to help guide hunters for the group hunt. I spent 5+ hours of my 19 hours in the field over Friday/Saturday/Sunday instructing hunters on where to hunt and what to look for and I can say it was awesome watching them grin when I verified their finds. Kudos to Jim and Ruben for doing most of the behind the scenes organizing for the hunt. There is a lot of patience involved with juggling 50 people and those who really listened walked away with the knowledge to find something that day or in the future. My finds from Friday and through the morning Saturday consisted of 3 individuals, 2 fragments and a piece that was just fusion crust all for a total of less than 2 grams and my father was kicking my butt!! After spending most of my morning driving back and forth from the hotel room to the strewn field and guiding hunters I decided to pick up my father and the small group he had taken on a hunt. He asked me where I wanted to hunt and I told him I had seen Moni and Bob moving towards a flat in the middle of the north side and I wanted to beat them too it so we headed to the spot I had my eye on with the family he was guiding and began to search. That's when I found a few fragments with in a few centimeters from each other stuck in the clay on the surface. I had my dad drive the truck over so I could bring out the shovel and sieve, (as we had plaid the fragment game before). A few people surrounded as I slowly and carefully broke up the clay into the sieve. I had about fifty grams in fragments when my shovel clinked against a much bigger piece in the ground and everyone froze with excitement. That's when I pulled out the 240 gram piece It took about an hour and a half to recover the 160 grams in fragments and the 240 gram stone for a total of a 400 gram find. As far Holbrook goes, besides Larry's whopper, I haven't heard of that big of a find in the last few decades. Ontop of that Richard had another mongo find of 47 grams which is extremely rare for Holbrook in 2011. Together we have over 500 Holbrooks with a 90% of them individuals, average size 1-2 grams and before that point my biggest was 23 grams and my father had found one around 30+ grams. It amazes me that there was a 400g find and a 47g find along with s many other stones all found in the same day, regardless if there were fifty hunters or 1000 hunters
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite trip report
Sonny, I always enjoy flipping through your site! It's like the meteorite recon site but for Nevada! [Erik] - Original Message From: wahlpe...@aol.com wahlpe...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, July 19, 2011 8:07:23 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite trip report Hi All, I have posted a couple of pictures on my web page from our recent meteorite hunting expedition. Although we did not make any finds it was sure nice to have spent time in the field. Sonny http://www.nevadameteorites.com/nevadameteorites/Trip_Report.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite trip report
Agreed, I always enjoy reading the articles, hunts, stuff from NASA, photos and small stuff people post. Usually I just skim past the boring debates and adds unless it's something that interests me. Not saying there should be any restriction on the two. I notice some people get butt hurt over being 'spammed' with the two. That's what you get for having an email based system. Email sucks! it's hard to sift through and you can't have categories like finds/articles/pressing issues/adds but it works great otherwise. The list will evolve with technology and people should just be happy they can sit on butt and connect with us all. That's an insane privilege. It's like people complaining about turbulence on and airplane... You are sitting in a chair floating thousands of feet above the earth, who cares if your chair shakes a little. lmao Anyway, I might not say anything but I enjoy reading everyone's material. [Erik] - Original Message From: Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com To: Erik Fisler phxe...@yahoo.com Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, July 19, 2011 12:38:57 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite trip report Yup, he has found more than most and I really appeciate his efforts! I tell Sonny what I once told Mike Farmer - I think a lot of people on this forum appeciate what he (and others like him) do even if they are quiet most of the time. On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Erik Fisler phxe...@yahoo.com wrote: Sonny, I always enjoy flipping through your site! It's like the meteorite recon site but for Nevada! [Erik] - Original Message From: wahlpe...@aol.com wahlpe...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, July 19, 2011 8:07:23 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite trip report Hi All, I have posted a couple of pictures on my web page from our recent meteorite hunting expedition. Although we did not make any finds it was sure nice to have spent time in the field. Sonny http://www.nevadameteorites.com/nevadameteorites/Trip_Report.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Test
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[meteorite-list] Protecting Irons (School Collection)
Hello all, Personally I'm not a fan of irons but a friend who works at my Community College for my University Physics course is. For the school, he has built a collection of chondrites, pallasites and irons; Franconia, buck mnt., palo verde mine, bassikanu, campo de cielo, canyon diablo, holbrook etc... I added a few pieces to the school's collection as well because it is quite small. He has a problem with a few irons rusting a bit. Can someone offer me any solutions I can offer him? [Erik] __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - November 9, 2010
Gee what a special day.. Thanks Michael for bringing us RFSPOD! Another great POD :) [Erik] Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 20:52:37 -0800 From: countde...@earthlink.net To: mich...@rocksfromspace.org; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - November 9, 2010 Hi Michael and List, What a great presentation and photo of the Norton County achondrite! This meteorite fell on my birthday and I have a couple of grams. It is so fragile. The folks at IOM/UNM did a great piece of work cutting, polishing and stabilizing it.. Gorgeous breccia. Regards to all, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: Michael Johnson mich...@rocksfromspace.org Sent: Nov 8, 2010 8:38 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - November 9, 2010 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/November_9_2010.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT... Too scary to look at : ) Halloween Pumpkin at the Clarys
Haha Nice one Sonny, hope all is well [Erik] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 20:17:24 -0400 From: wahlpe...@aol.com Subject: [meteorite-list] OT... Too scary to look at : ) Halloween Pumpkin at the Clarys Hi list, Caution this might remind you of a certain List Member! : ) Sonny http://www.nevadameteorites.com/nevadameteorites/SCARY_PUMPKIN.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Holbrook Display
Here is a shot of how my father display's his 28.6g Holbrook. http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/Holbrook/_MG_0473raw.jpg The jar contains sand from the strewn field. Enjoy Erik Ben Fisler __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Best Meteorite hunting handheld MD??
Hi Joe, The problem with the Xterra is that it has less than an inch and a half depth in highly mineralization areas. It should work great in good soil with it's discrimination features. Too many rocks in Arizona sound off as 25-25 on the ferrous-conductive scale on the Xterra. [Erik] Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 09:20:21 -0700 From: skyrockmeteori...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Best Meteorite hunting handheld MD?? I use the Minelab Xterra-70. I believe it is the best meteorite hunting hand-held. I can set it to discriminate everything except for meteorites. When I have it set to find only meteorites, I get very very few signals from other iron, once in a while I will get a signal for iron that has chrome on it, not sure why. While in WI, I used it quite a bit in the trees and tall grass, and hay fields. I only got a couple signals the entire time. While other detectors got many many signals. If I didnt have mine to double check the others, they may have spent all day digging. Even though not many hunters up in WI are using detectors, I was part of the time. After all, if I wasn't using it, I would not have found my 332g stone, it was completely buried, with no sign of disturbance at the surface. I know a few people who had Gold Bugs up there, but didnt use them because of all of the iuron junk in the ground up there, I used mine and found less than 5 pieces of scrap iron(fencing, old cans, much more). I was wondering what others use. I VERY HIGHLY recommend using the Xterra-70(now the Xterra 705) for meteorite hunting, it is very light weight, has changeable coils, very highly tuned discriminating options, very accurate. I love this thing. One of the other guys I was with this last trip was wishing he had an Xterra. There were very few hunters using detectors at all in WI, not sure why with all of the forest, tall grasses, and hay fields in the heart of the strewnfield. I think if more people would have been using an Xterra or another good discriminating MD there would have been many more finds made, I am sure of it. Best Wishes, Joe Kerchner http://illinoismeteorites.com http://skyrockcafe.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Best Meteorite hunting handheld MD??
However, I did find at least ten to fifteen small chondrites at Franconia with that detector. They were all on the surface hidden in desert pavement. I love how you can block out different metals like aluminum and copper/brass. If anyone wants a programmable detector that works in high mineralization I suggest the White MXT. It is a VLF not a Pulse detector, light weight, and great in rich soil. [Erik] http://gallery.me.com/eriksunvalleyphoto Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 15:46:36 -0400 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Best Meteorite hunting handheld MD?? From: meteoritem...@gmail.com To: erikfw...@msn.com CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Hi Joe and List, Erik hit on a good point - mineralization of the soil is important. The Tesoro Compadre is a pleasure to use, I can swing it around all day without my arm getting tired. I've owned wrist-watches that weighed more than the Compadre. But, it's got a small coil and it doesn't perform well on mineralized soil, so it's basically an overgrown pin-pointer with only about 2-3 inches of useable depth at the most. It's next to useless in wet packed sand at the beach. Best regards, MikeG On 5/16/10, Erik Fisler wrote: Hi Joe, The problem with the Xterra is that it has less than an inch and a half depth in highly mineralization areas. It should work great in good soil with it's discrimination features. Too many rocks in Arizona sound off as 25-25 on the ferrous-conductive scale on the Xterra. [Erik] Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 09:20:21 -0700 From: skyrockmeteori...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Best Meteorite hunting handheld MD?? I use the Minelab Xterra-70. I believe it is the best meteorite hunting hand-held. I can set it to discriminate everything except for meteorites. When I have it set to find only meteorites, I get very very few signals from other iron, once in a while I will get a signal for iron that has chrome on it, not sure why. While in WI, I used it quite a bit in the trees and tall grass, and hay fields. I only got a couple signals the entire time. While other detectors got many many signals. If I didnt have mine to double check the others, they may have spent all day digging. Even though not many hunters up in WI are using detectors, I was part of the time. After all, if I wasn't using it, I would not have found my 332g stone, it was completely buried, with no sign of disturbance at the surface. I know a few people who had Gold Bugs up there, but didnt use them because of all of the iuron junk in the ground up there, I used mine and found less than 5 pieces of scrap iron(fencing, old cans, much more). I was wondering what others use. I VERY HIGHLY recommend using the Xterra-70(now the Xterra 705) for meteorite hunting, it is very light weight, has changeable coils, very highly tuned discriminating options, very accurate. I love this thing. One of the other guys I was with this last trip was wishing he had an Xterra. There were very few hunters using detectors at all in WI, not sure why with all of the forest, tall grasses, and hay fields in the heart of the strewnfield. I think if more people would have been using an Xterra or another good discriminating MD there would have been many more finds made, I am sure of it. Best Wishes, Joe Kerchner http://illinoismeteorites.com http://skyrockcafe.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Best Meteorite hunting handheld MD??
None the less, an opinion formed from experience. Thanks Joe. [Erik] Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 13:28:00 -0700 From: skyrockmeteori...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Best Meteorite hunting handheld MD?? For me, I have found the xterra works good on highly mineralized soil using the tracking option, only available on the xterra 70, i dont thinks it available on the 50 or the 30. I would not use any other detector. The digital display and programming or so very helpful. I love this machine, it also have paid for its self many times over. My opinion could be very bias however.. Best Wishes, Joe Kerchner http://illinoismeteorites.com http://skyrockcafe.com - Original Message From: Galactic Stone Ironworks To: Erik Fisler Cc: meteorite-list Sent: Sun, May 16, 2010 2:46:36 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Best Meteorite hunting handheld MD?? Hi Joe and List, Erik hit on a good point - mineralization of the soil is important. The Tesoro Compadre is a pleasure to use, I can swing it around all day without my arm getting tired. I've owned wrist-watches that weighed more than the Compadre. But, it's got a small coil and it doesn't perform well on mineralized soil, so it's basically an overgrown pin-pointer with only about 2-3 inches of useable depth at the most. It's next to useless in wet packed sand at the beach. Best regards, MikeG On 5/16/10, Erik Fisler wrote: Hi Joe, The problem with the Xterra is that it has less than an inch and a half depth in highly mineralization areas. It should work great in good soil with it's discrimination features. Too many rocks in Arizona sound off as 25-25 on the ferrous-conductive scale on the Xterra. [Erik] Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 09:20:21 -0700 From: skyrockmeteori...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Best Meteorite hunting handheld MD?? I use the Minelab Xterra-70. I believe it is the best meteorite hunting hand-held. I can set it to discriminate everything except for meteorites. When I have it set to find only meteorites, I get very very few signals from other iron, once in a while I will get a signal for iron that has chrome on it, not sure why. While in WI, I used it quite a bit in the trees and tall grass, and hay fields. I only got a couple signals the entire time. While other detectors got many many signals. If I didnt have mine to double check the others, they may have spent all day digging. Even though not many hunters up in WI are using detectors, I was part of the time. After all, if I wasn't using it, I would not have found my 332g stone, it was completely buried, with no sign of disturbance at the surface. I know a few people who had Gold Bugs up there, but didnt use them because of all of the iuron junk in the ground up there, I used mine and found less than 5 pieces of scrap iron(fencing, old cans, much more). I was wondering what others use. I VERY HIGHLY recommend using the Xterra-70(now the Xterra 705) for meteorite hunting, it is very light weight, has changeable coils, very highly tuned discriminating options, very accurate. I love this thing. One of the other guys I was with this last trip was wishing he had an Xterra. There were very few hunters using detectors at all in WI, not sure why with all of the forest, tall grasses, and hay fields in the heart of the strewnfield. I think if more people would have been using an Xterra or another good discriminating MD there would have been many more finds made, I am sure of it. Best Wishes, Joe Kerchner http://illinoismeteorites.com http://skyrockcafe.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net
Re: [meteorite-list] FW: Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 8, 2010
It's a Franconia Iron. When you've been out in the field and walked two and a half miles into some inhospitable desert and you can only find them within the strewn field then you know... I have plenty of dumb bells and funky U shaped irons but most of them are flat and corn flake looking because they pealed out of the second or third break up of the meteorite and did not have enough time to orient. They don't get very big because most of them were only the size of peas or smaller when they peeled out of the meteorites in flight. It's easy to sit in your rolly chair and say meteor wrong. I suggest you spend 50 hours learning to properly use a quality metal detector and then walk two miles from the rail road tracks(as a crow flies lol) and stay out there for 12 hours to get your head right. Then tell me the stuff you found was man made LMAO!!! MANMADE!!! MANMADE!!! hahahaha [Erik] Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 12:11:42 -0400 From: meteoritem...@gmail.com To: joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] FW: Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 8, 2010 Hi All, Flanged buttons of this type are limited to tektites, which undergo a vastly different formation process than meteorites. There are no meteorite flanged buttons, or if there is, I have not seen in during my experience of handling thousands of meteorites and seeing photos of tens of thousands of meteorites. Nor I have ever read anything in the scientific literature that allows for meteorite flanged buttons of this type. This is either a meteorwrong, or a million-dollar find of the century - I'd bet on the former. Best regards, MikeG On 5/8/10, JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com wrote: Why would you even think that's a meteorite? I think Darren called it. It's a snap fastener. Phil Whitmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Is Livingston to Wisconsin what Holbrook was to AZ?
Holbrook's strewn field was only a mile in length by half a mile wide. This field is much bigger! The meteorites should be hidden for many years to come. The only reason Holbrook can still be found today is because the stones penetrated six inches into the soft soil. I don't think the trajectory was as harsh for this field. The trick will be finding where they are hiding! If anyone is planning on heading to WI after May please contact me off list! [Erik] Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 13:04:19 -0400 From: meteoritem...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Is Livingston to Wisconsin what Holbrook was to AZ? Hi Listees! I was just pondering all of the attention that the new Wisconsin fall is getting, and it made me wonder about some comparisons. It seems to me that this fall has some things in common with Holbrook. Both were witnessed falls that captured a lot of attention at the time. Both were hammer falls. Both were widespread events with a large strewnfield and numerous seperate finds. Could this new fall continue to produce significant finds in coming years? It seems that this bolide came in at a shallow angle with multiple detonations, so we have a mess of meteorites waiting to be found out there, methinks. :) Best regards and happy huntings, MikeG __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] eBay's billyazprospector?
I've hunted with him before, he's a great guy and a good hunter. [Erik] Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 17:51:16 -0700 From: damoc...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] eBay's billyazprospector? Just curious of the ebay seller is on this list? I made one purchase from him in the past and see he has scores of meteorites up right now. Thanks -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - April 7, 2010
That stone is very weathered for a Franconia H3-5 or Buck mountain H3-5. Is it really magnetic? Could be on of the Franconia area L's. [Erik] Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 21:59:24 -0700 From: mich...@rocksfromspace.org To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - April 7, 2010 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/April_7_2010.html --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Are there meteorite-collecting tours?
There is not outfit that I know of but I've seen tours provided for groups at Franconia by some in the meteorite community. The nuggetshooter forum (nuggetshooter.com) has annual outings to Gold Basin and Franconia as well. [Erik] Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 13:22:00 -0500 From: veom...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Are there meteorite-collecting tours? I know in the fossil industry there are several outfits that lead trips to go fossil collecting for a fee, same with the mineral industry. Is there an outfit in the meteorite industry that leads collecting trips for a price? -YvW __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 5 reasons to record meteorite coordinates
Jason, Like I said earlier, If worst comes to worst. I'm not saying I'm planning on lying about tomorrow's finds but if the government starts confiscating meteorites from state or BLM land I will. Say you find 20 stones approx. 8 kilos. Does the Smithsonian need all 8 kilos? NO! You make it sound as though I want to keep %100 of the TKW, or that the Smithsonian needs %100 of the TKW if they're not in some public forum, they're as good as gone. The Smithsonian is not public forum. And I'm sure they wouldn't display %100 of your material. At least in my drawer someone can appreciate them. I'm sure the people at the Smithsonian take each peace and fondle it all the time. Right... Most pieces probably need a good dusting. If my laptop crashes my external hard drive lives on. Point is that IF the government demands ownership of all BLM and state finds, I will not cut my search area to more than half, and be discouraged to hunt on BLM and state lands. The average strewn field meets those dimensions, yes. Try one that is half a mile wide by 11 miles with a tkw of 4-5 pieces totaling 2 kilos. Then coordinates matter. I might be sitting and complaining but that does not mean I haven't gone out to try to find the damn thing. And i can complain while I find the damn thing, because it isn't and either-or situation. Of course we are talking about a hypothetical situation. I do not lie about my coordinates, and I do catalog, map and photograph insitu pictures. You've seen my photobucket so I don't know why you brought it up. [Erik] Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:15:10 -0800 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 5 reasons to record meteorite coordinates From: meteorite...@gmail.com To: erikfw...@msn.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Of course I would carefully record my coordinates of my finds as I do now. I just wouldn't submit the true coordinates with the classification for fear of being punished for collecting meteorites on BLM or state land. Secret data *is* lost data. If you don't tell people the truth, when you die, it simply disappears. And in the meantime, you're misleading both your hunting colleagues as well as the scientific establishment as to where they were found - all so that you can keep them for yourself. No data lost. Just private information, much like many strewn field coordinates that I do not have access to withing universities. Private information *is* lost information. When we submit for provisional numbers, we still submit coordinates. They're somewhere... The stewn field maps and coordinates i have on my laptop and hard drive would stay their for my reference, and the reference of other hunters who wont let the government step on our rights to hunt meteorites. Again, if they're not in some public forum, they're as good as gone. What happens to those numbers when you die? They disappear. If the universities wanted, of course I would carefully record my coordinates of my finds as I do now. I just wouldn't submit the true coordinates with the classification for fear of being punished for collecting meteorites on BLM or state land. No data lost. Just private information, much like many strewn field coordinates that I do not have access to within universities. You keep insisting that your having it means that it exists and is therefor the same as your submitting the true information. That's simply not true. The level of security in that case is negligible; your computer crashes, the information is lost. You die, the information is lost. And your credibility goes to the crapper because you're lying to the Meteoritical Bulletin. If news of that gets around, universities simply won't classify your material anymore -- or they'll take it and eventually give it Nova numbers themselves. You'd be the new Ron Farrell! If you really didn't want to submit the real coordinates, what would be appropriate is a Nova number, not a set of fake coordinates. Saying that you're withholding the coordinates is one thing - it may not be good, but at least it's not lying. There's really nothing that you could do that's worse. The stewn field maps and coordinates i have on my laptop and hard drive would stay their for my reference, and the reference of other hunters who wont let the government step on our rights to hunt meteorites. But in maintaining your right to hunt for meteorites, you would tread all over the science of them. I honestly don't understand why you even hunt for meteorites anymore; you clearly don't care much for the science of them. If the universities want true coordinates I would have to have them classified behind closed doors, if possible. Or they can choose to turn their heads away from the law and classify my stones regardless, then there would be no loss in data. Either way, you would be lying to the Meteoritical Bulletin and to the general public,
Re: [meteorite-list] It's now an even sadder day...what happened to ethics??
Dennis, What is wrong with disregarding the law to refind a new classification on public land? Are you suggesting that I spend hundreds in gas/lodging/food to find meteorites to donate %100 of the material to a university or museum? With that little motivation, the number of new meteorites being found would drop to a number one could count on their left hand. It's already happened in Australia. I'd much rather donate a percentage of my material for classification and to be cataloged and then keep some. It is one thing to do what is morally correct and abide by the law, and it is one thing to submit anytime the government tells you not to do something without questioning it. [Erik] From: apollocollec...@q.com To: cdtuc...@cox.net Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:47:14 -0800 CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] It's now an even sadder day...what happened to ethics?? Hello Carl, You ask some interesting questions. Yes, it sounds as if there are many gray areas in the law...and those need to be cleared up. As for your question about the LA Mars rocks, from the first time that I heard the story, I wondered about the circumstances. While I believe the story to be true, some might say that it was a convenient fabrication to preserve personal gain. In any case, I guess that one must draw a line at some point...and due to recent meteorite hunting publicity, it appears that the time has now arrived. It may be that previously documented finds can be grandfathered but going forward, all laws must be obeyed. It is one thing to fail to know or understand the law and another to knowingly disregard it...which is the position of those who state that they will refind specimens in the future. Thanks, Dennis On Mar 9, 2010, at 10:21 AM, wrote: Dennis, I agree with you 100 %. If there were laws prohibiting the collection. However there is not. If you do read all the posts it has already been linked to sites that do define collections of meteorites and they only limit the amount allowed to 250 pounds per year without a special permit. But with that permit more in allowed legally. It merely states that these collections cannot be for commercial gain. This is the gray area. If you sell them then you are in violation. But what if your kids inherit them? What is the status then? This verbiage is as bad as many other laws drafted by the feds. I was once charged with selling duck feathers. They ended up dropping the charges as I proved the stuffed duck was legal because it was an antique ( grand fathered) but under current law it is in fact illegal to sell any migrating bird feathers. Thanks to the migrating bird act. Yes, you can hunt ducks and eat them but you must discard the feathers and may never sell them. How stupid is that? Again , it is very gray because these rocks are not meteorites until they are approved by metsoc. true story. An IMCA member is not allowed to state that they are selling meteorites unless they are approved by metsoc. And rightly so because they are not real without the metsoc designation. Or are they??? We can also reduce this to the ridiculous by saying that all rocks came from space. Yes even Earth came from space. Or do we grandfather it in like the duck feathers? So, they are technically just rocks until that happens. By then if you try to put them back they can get you for littering. Can you imagine what the cops would do to you if they caught you littering on public lands? The now famous Los Angeles meteorites were found by a rock hound. Again a perfectly legal find as a rock under 250 ponds. Years later it was discovered and recognized as a meteorite. But again until then it was just an interesting rock. So, based on your position all of the dealers of LA mars rocks are out of favor with you? For that matter any and all finds without a permit like Gold Basin on Federal land are all in this same position. All illegal. Looks like your buying days are very limited? Obviously my only point here is that these laws are really really stupid. My two cents. Carl -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax Dennis Beatty wrote: I have sporadically read the comments regarding the implementation of new (or newly enforced) BLM rules...and am saddened and disappointed at the overall tone of the responses. What is it about us and our love of meteorites that gives us the right for personal gain?? As I understand it, any item found on public land belongs to the American people not some lucky individual that happens to stumble across something of value. I have read several posts where fellow collectors have stated that should they find a meteorite on public land, they will merely refind it on private land. Sheesh!! I will be going back through this thread much more carefully and if those types comments are tied to any dealers, I will definitely
Re: [meteorite-list] 5 reasons to record meteorite coordinates
Rob, Of course I would carefully record my coordinates of my finds as I do now. I just wouldn't submit the true coordinates with the classification for fear of being punished for collecting meteorites on BLM or state land. No data lost. Just private information, much like many strewn field coordinates that I do not have access to withing universities. The stewn field maps and coordinates i have on my laptop and hard drive would stay their for my reference, and the reference of other hunters who wont let the government step on our rights to hunt meteorites. If the universities want true coordinates I would have to have them classified behind closed doors, if possible. Or they can choose to turn their heads away from the law and classify my stones regardless, then there would be no loss in data. :o Jason, Speaking of more stones being recovered, don't you hate when the coordinates listed are just general coordinates. How can we recover more and thoroughly conduct a search when the only stone found is listed with minutes and no seconds? Either some coconut head didn't take GPS and had to point out on a map were he found it, or they do not want you to know the exact location. Either way is extremely frustrating. Hopefully universities would ignore the law and accept finds on BLM or state land with true coordinates without snitching on the person who saved the data from terrestrializing. Although some people submit like dogs when pressured! lol And yes Jason, I would lie about find coordinates to keep SOME of the material. If the tkw is less then 50 grams then I would probably give the whole mass to the university but kilos of material is just going to end up in storage or traded to some other meteorite dealer or hunter. I would however, respect you for hunting and donating 100% of your material to a university. [Erik] Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 16:52:33 -0500 From: cdtuc...@cox.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; robert.d.mat...@saic.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 5 reasons to record meteorite coordinates Rob, I can think of a few more myself but as I said .In my opinion the need for this info is outweighed by the harm it causes. SEE BELOW IN ALL CAPS. -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax Matson wrote: Carl asks: I don't yet understand why people put so much importance on find co-ords and strewnfields. It has not only been pointed out by another important list member that A meteorite does not care where it lands. (Ted Bunch). You may be quoting Ted out of context. Yes, a meteorite doesn't care. But people do, including many researchers. Recording find coordinates serves at least five purposes that I can think of, right off the bat: QUOTE IS IN CONTEXT AND ACCURATE. THIS SILENCED JASON A FEW WEEKS BACK WHILE ON HIS HIGH HORSE. 1. In situ photographic provenance. If a meteorite becomes separated from its identifying documentation, a photograph in the field with a GPS unit is an excellent way to reestablish its identity. This can be very helpful when a meteorite has been sent to a lab for analysis, and its label gets lost or the sample confused with another meteorite at that lab. NOT A SCIENTIFIC NEED BUT IS I AGREE EQUALLY AS USEFUL AS A STICKY LABEL. 2. For recent falls, it can help tell you something about the dynamics of the fall, such as the entry azimuth (being careful to account for wind drift), and terminal burst vs. multiple fragmentation. YES, THIS DID A LOT OF GOOD FINDING MORE LORTON PIECES. SORRY. 3. For finds, it is a necessary (but not by itself sufficient) metric for establishing likely pairings. PAIRINGS ARE ONLY AS GOOD AS THE SCIENCE UTILIZED TO DETERMINE THEM. WE NOW KNOW THAT PAIRINGS DON'T HAVE TO BE OF LIKE TYPES. ALMAHATTA SITTA TELLS US THAT THEY CAN BE TOTALLY DIFFERENT CLASSES AND STILL BE PAIRED SO, ONLY TRUE TESTING CAN DETERMINE THIS. 4. With find coordinates and care with pairing, it becomes possible to estimate minimum annual meteorite fall rate based on the number of unpaired finds over a carefully surveyed area. YOU CAN ALSO MAKE THESE GUESSES AT WILL. And most valuable to the finders working an area: 5. The distribution of find coordinates may provide evidence of fluvial and aeolian transport. This can greatly enhance meteorite recovery rate by transforming a two-dimensional search problem into a 1-dimensional boundary search. I'M SURE THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME BUT I CANNOT THINK OF A TIME IT HAS. I'm sure others can add more to this list. The point is, just because one person doesn't believe recording find coordinates is important doesn't mean it isn't valuable to someone else. So by failing to do so, either through ignorance or apathy, a hunter is destroying scientific data. ROB, ALL OF THOSE POINTS ARE OF NOTE BUT FALL INTO THE TRIVIAL DEPARTMENT TO MOST OF US. AGAIN MOSTLY BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING MORE TO BE LEARNED BY THEM. THE WHEEL
Re: [meteorite-list] It is a sad day.....
Hi, If worst comes to worst I will refind the meteorites on private land of which I have permission to hunt. For classification I will supply the coordinates to the university. This way we will still have the opportunity to expand our knowledge of meteorites and the number of new classifications for the good of science. If anyone thinks that the coordinates of the find matter enough to give up searching for them on BLM land then that is a very nice thought. I'd rather see new classification's like Sony's saved from terrestrializing over knowing the spot in which they are found. So, be a tourist, take pictures, throw some interesting rocks in your pocket. I'd like to see a BLM ranger distinguish between basalt and a weathered chondrite... [Erik] From: stanleygr...@hotmail.com To: photoph...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 21:28:55 -0800 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] It is a sad day. Hi All: I know someone that works at the Smithsonian and I asked about this a few years ago. His reply: We also talked about the legality of collecting on BLM property. This is a sticky subject that, as far as I can tell, has nothing to do with the 20gm/20% rule. Technically, all meteorites found on BLM property are property of the United States. This was the result of the big mess with the Old Woman meteorite that was adjudicated just before I started working here. So it seems that if somebody at BLM wanted to, they could demand all the meteorites collected on BLM property be turned over... Apparently it is unlikely that BLM actually cares much about this whole business. It is all very complicated and legally confused, seems to me. Greg S. Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 21:09:47 -0800 From: photoph...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] It is a sad day. Ruben and Listers, Its not that sad of a day. I did some researching on the website Ruben provided and this is what the U.S. DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT of Oregon state states about rock collection on public land How can I collect rocks? Rock hounds are permitted to collect rocks found on the surface of the ground and may use hand shovels and picks in digging, but must not use explosives or power equipment for excavation. Technical a meteorite is a rock. So there we go, we can go rock collecting in Oregon and look for new rocks (meteorites). Lastly Listers, do you think with the recent meteorite falls and TV shows about meteorites on how much meteorites might be worth could have put these new regulations in to motion, or has this been something that has been taking place over the coures of a few years? Shawn Alan [meteorite-list] It is a sad day.Ruben Garciamrmeteorite at gmail.com Mon Mar 8 20:11:14 EST 2010 Previous message: [meteorite-list] Related Meteorite Falls 11 years apart? BothHammers! Both L6 Olivine-hypersthene Next message: [meteorite-list] [Bulk] It is a sad day. Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Hi all, John Blennart just sent me this email. It seems that meteorite Hunting (from now on) will be illegal on all government lands - yes even BLM! No more Dry lake Beds, Franconia, Gold Basin, Holbrook, Glorieta, etc. (Unless of course you find private land and get permission) Check it out here. http://www.blm.gov/or/programs/minerals/noncollectables.php It is a sad day. Ruben Garcia Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u Previous message: [meteorite-list] Related Meteorite Falls 11 years apart? BothHammers! Both L6 Olivine-hypersthene Next message: [meteorite-list] [Bulk] It is a sad day. Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the Meteorite-list mailing list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list
Re: [meteorite-list] Dating Meteorites
Thanks! That was a well organized video. Nice find. [Erik] __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Degrees in Meteoritics
I was just going to major in Geology and go from there. Any suggestions? [Erik] From: c...@alumni.caltech.edu To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 10:49:23 -0700 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Degrees in Meteoritics There is no such thing as an undergraduate degree in meteoritics. Many good schools, however, should provide independent study opportunities for students with astronomy, geology, geophysics type majors to explore the area. The situation is different with graduate studies, however. Here, you would look for an academic researcher as an advisor, and you'd work on an advanced degree under that person (and whatever department he happened to be associated with). You don't get a PhD in any particular subject, you choose your research and specialization based on your own interests and the expertise of your advisor and other staff at a particular institution. IMO there is more than enough room for some more meteoritics researchers, so there's no reason to discourage high school students from pursuing this area. Realistically, very few will actually do so. They should focus their undergraduate studies in the physical sciences. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: meteorh...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 10:38 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Degrees in Meteoritics Hello List, I have just had a high school aged viewer of our show Meteorite Men contact me asking for all the Universities that offer some type of Meteoritics degrees, as it seems after watching some of our episodes, this is now the direction this young man wants to pursue as a vocation. I was curious if there is a comprehensive list of the institutions that offer either undergraduate or post graduate courses in what might be grouped as Meteoritics? As Geoff and I begin to do more work speaking to Junior High and High School aged kids, it would seem that this might be a common question for us to be asked, and I would want to be prepared to offer the best answer possible. On a side note, is there much demand for new meteorite scientists out there? If all the slots are filled, or someone isn't likely to be able to get a job once they would get a degree, I might want to caution kids not to get too serious about this field for a career without seriously evaluating the options first. But since I am not one to try to quash anyone's dreams, I would like to be as helpful as possible. And as a reminder, tonight is our Dry Lake Bed hunt episode of Meteorite Men on Science Channel with our amazing guest stars Sonny Clary and his dog Brix. I hope the fun we had on this expedition comes through in the final cut. The only time I ever experienced anything close to what happens tonight was 13 years or so ago when I took several trips to Imilac and I found a lot of small pieces in a small area. It was a blast to shoot this episode and I look forward to being able to share it with the world.I will be putting some of the meteorites I found on the show up on Ebay with buy it now, so if you want one of the finds, check that out a little later today. Steve Arnold __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] MEGABRECCIA
I though I'd seen some big breccia in meteorites till I saw this!!! http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_007767_1970 This breccia is 30 meters across! :o __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Don't use putty!
What should I use to prop up stones? [Erik] From: altm...@meteorite-martin.de To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 13:08:00 +0100 Subject: [meteorite-list] Don't use putty! Erik, please never use putty for meteorites. Especially not with stone meteorites. The oils and softeners of these putties, even if recommended by mineral people, are going with time deep into the stone, making huge blackish irreversible stains. I had some customers, who ruined half of their collections and unfortunately many historic pieces among them, having them fixed with putty in their boxes. Best, Martin Jason if you want to twist and distort things than buy silly putty. Works great for holding meteorites for photographs or display. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Matters Arising
Anyone who owns a fire arm must be a hick or redneck. Nice one! So clear, we didn't even have to assume what you meant. It must be a terrible burden to share correspondence with them. I don't like when dealers gang up on each other, then again I do NOT read the threads when they do. A possible solution Peter is that you can click delete the ones in your inbox related to that thread. OR if you read from the website, do not click on the links that follow the post that has a topic that might potentially ruffle your feathers. This might be a mature solution. I do not want to force anything on you or take away your right to post what you want to post. Also: Next time you feel the need to announce something like this, try to model it something along the lines of this: Dear Listees I do not like the debate on guns. Bye. -Peter All I'm trying to point out is that your current style of writing makes you look like a sissy and a jerk. First you take a jab that gun owners are rednecks etc.. Then mention that you are so scared that you must be comforted by a grown woman. I seriously doubt either of those are true. What you said in text is not what you meant. The underhand message is bluntly rude. I would not want anyone to post saying I never thought I would see the day when I would be sharing correspondence with 'pussies'. I look forward to seeing your posts on the list, and I don't mean posts like this one. [Erik] Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 09:19:52 + From: p.david...@nms.ac.uk To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Matters Arising Dear Listees I have been a member of this list now for less than a year. In that time I have seen some almighty stushies (Scots word meaning rumpus or row) and debates as well as a mountain of information and the forging of some great new friendships. However the recent postings on guns and arms has seriously depressed and angered me, and if anything has come close to forcing me off the list, it is this. I never thought I would see the day when I would be sharing correspondence with hicks and rednecks or NRA sycophants and apologists. Anne (Black) I salute you. Your simple, straightforward words are my only comfort. :-( Peter Davidson Curator of Minerals National Museums Collection Centre National Museums Scotland 242 West Granton Road Edinburgh EH5 1JA Phone: +44 131 247 4283 p.david...@nms.ac.uk www.nms.ac.uk Meet Your Maker, the creative minds behind Scotland's crafts. National Museum of Scotland, 29 January - 14 March. www.nms.ac.uk/maker National Museums Scotland, Scottish Charity, No. SC 011130 This communication is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the addressee please inform the sender and delete the email from your system. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of National Museums Scotland. This message is subject to the Data Protection Act 1998 and Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002. No liability is accepted for any harm that may be caused to your systems or data by this message. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Firearms related posts on a meteorite list
Jason if you want to twist and distort things than buy silly putty. Works great for holding meteorites for photographs or display. I recommend clay more but then you wouldn't be able to twist and distort it as easily. Your choice will have to depend on how much of a challenge you want. Just make sure it doesn't slip into the cracks in the meteorite as it will be hard to clean out! Gun crimes will decrease if fire arms are made illegal but also if the psycho gunman is out gunned that he won't initiate a massacre. Iv'e never heard of a massacre at a gun show, or in a police head quarters where there were groups of armed persons... Why is that Jason? Your debate can be reversed as well. If we take away weapons, gun crimes will decrease. Also, If we urge and train citizens to carry fire arms, gun crimes will decrease. We can find exceptions to either case. If we take away guns, then only people who buy illegal guns will have guns and people will be defenseless. If we urge citizens to carry fire arms, accidents involving guns will increase. I think it's best to keep it the way it is: if you want to own one, do, if you don't, don't. Govern your safety or depend on someone else too. The freedom of choice. Gun owner are violent and those who don't own guns are neurotic. Right? Wrong... The topic is elegant, simple and complex at the same time. Much like the structure of each chondrule. No view is right or wrong, only the delivery of the view. [Erik] Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 21:13:44 -0800 From: meteorite...@gmail.com To: ironfromthesky@gmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Firearms related posts on a meteorite list Robert, All, I spent three years training at the finest firearms institution on the planet learning about every aspect of the industry, and even designing and manufacturing my own firearms models, I am an expert in the field, and I assure you they are not killing tools and assault rifles when they leave the factory. Well, they're not toys and they're not meant to defend against anything - at least, anything other than someone else with a gun. And they're not used for anything else, really...though I suppose you could use one as a hammer if the situation called for it. So, killing tools. Yeah. You don't eat off them, you don't really do anything constructive with themthey kill. That's about it. Hell, by your logic, a hammer isn't a building tool. It'swell, if I look at what you write below, it's just a piece of metal and wood/plastic. And a car isn't a transportation vehicle - it'smetal, plastic, glass, and rubber. Kind of a crappy semantics argument. They are pieces of metal and plastic, Piece of metal and plastic that, with the push of a button, can end someone's life. Granted, as you say, a machete would also suffice, but I don't think we had too many machete deaths here in the US last year, though there are a great many machetes. You're simply ignoring the fact that guns make it easier to kill someone, and that's a fact that's clearly reflected in crime statistics. People do the killing, guns are inanimate objects. Right, but standing in front of someone, squeezing your finger, and shouting bang! is hardly going to get the job done. Of course, knives/machetes would also suffice, but, I'll say it again: it's easier to pull a trigger at someone from ten feet away than it is to slide a knife between their ribs while they try to fight you off. Of course, if you're just using the inanimate object line, we can throw all sorts of things into the mix - nuclear bombs, grenades, ballistic missiles, etc. All inanimate. You seem to be saying that the fact that they're inanimate means that people should be allowed to have them because they cause no innate harm. Following that logic, you should have no problem with everyone having their own backyard nuke. But for some reason that seems ridiculous...I don't understand it. Somehow a great many people have decided that owning devices whose sole purpose is to kill is actually an innocent endeavor -- to a point. When the objects' ability to kill more than ~10-20 people with the push of a button, we stop and say that it's too dangerous. Apparently guns aren't *quite* dangerous enough. It doesn't make any sense. And while the suggestion that everyone have their own nuke may seem preposterous on the surface, it has some merit - they, too, are inanimate objects whose sole purpose is to kill. For some reason we as a population have decided that there's some arbitrary limit to the amount of killing power we want to leave in the hands of the average citizen; assault rifles, yes, and maybe even the odd grenade, but beyond that...it's prohibited. From an absolute standpoint, this makes no sense. If you're not going to need to shoot someone or something, you shouldn't have a gun. We
Re: [meteorite-list] Copper found in meteorite
Franconia irons (Sacremento Wash 005) often have copper in them. Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 16:14:46 -0800 From: star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Copper found in meteorite While I am sure this is more common then I have been able to find out about, it surely is not something that you see everyday. We found several areas in an NWA (the one with nice inclusions) that has copper present. Here is a picture of one of them, enjoy. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Cu_4copy.jpg Greg C. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Photography (Must read!)
AL John- More depth of field at higher F-stops yes, but you loose sharpness with each f-stop. Therfore, combining a series of F2.8 shots into one picture will be sharper then shooting at F22. This is proven and published in several canon and nikon articles. Especially when you have a 10-24mega pixel camera with highlight tone priority on with a good processor. Rob- An interesting fact that ties in with when you say a good lens is that lenses with the wider minimum apertures are sharper at higher f-stops than lenses that don't as wide of a minimum aperture. For example: An F1.4 lens at F3.5 is sharper then a F2.8 lens is at F3.5. Chris is very right! I use my F1.8 50mm at a minimum of F2.2-F2.8 for that very reason. It's often in Vincent Laforet's Blogs. Martin is right about extension tubes! I also have the Sigma 70-300mm which, with the flip of a switch, can be used for macro between 200mm and 300mm. That is the sharpest F3.5-5.6 lens I've ever seen or used. I can't believe I only payed $200 for it! It's a challenge to flip it to macro, then put both of my extension tubes on it. It's almost a microscope! Matteo, dont mention Zeiss lenses. I'll burst with jealousy! You are spoiled! [Erik] From: alm...@kconline.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 08:50:27 -0500 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Photography (Must read!) Hi Erik and all, I'd think just the opposite would be correct. A higher f-stop (f 22, 18 etc.) would create a better depth of field and the more open your iris is on your camera (lower f stop, 1.8, 2.0 etc.) the less focused your items would be. I think you just stated it backwards. Best! --AL Mitterling Mitterling Meteorites - Original Message - From: Erik Fisler erikfw...@msn.com To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:51 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Photography (Must read!) The third thing is auto-blending. For those of you who have SLR's you will notice that shooting at a higher F-stop like F1.8 or F2.8 is a lot sharper than shooting at a lower F-stop like F22. The problem is, you might have to drop your F-stop to make sure the whole meteorite is in focus. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Photography (Must read!)
I'd like to share some photography tips with list members that might help with photographing your meteorites. The first thing I would like to share is a silver reflector. here are some pictures: - http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/16/Photographing_a_model_1.jpg/260px-Photographing_a_model_1.jpg - http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2673/3843207418_17bd3e73bf_m.jpg Mainly used in portrait photography but works great for meteorites. It is used to reflect soft light onto the subject(meteorite). I use it to fill in the shadows because sunlight can make highlights and shadows harsh. I have a 5-in-1 reflector made by promaster. They usually run about $35 because you are paying for 4 different reflectors and a diffusion screen. The second thing is custom white balancing. Have you ever taking pictures in the shade or inside and the picture came out way too yellow or too blue? This is because the auto-white balance on your camera didn't do so well. Many digital camera's(Most SLR's) have a custom white balance setting. Just simply hold up a white sheet of paper in the light you will be shooting in and take a picture of it. Then find custom white balance and select the picture you took of the paper. Now when you shoot in that light the picture will be properly white balanced. This is a life saver for Nikon shooters because Nikon has terrible auto white balance. The third thing is auto-blending. For those of you who have SLR's you will notice that shooting at a higher F-stop like F1.8 or F2.8 is a lot sharper than shooting at a lower F-stop like F22. The problem is, you might have to drop your F-stop to make sure the whole meteorite is in focus. Fortunately, photoshop can take a batch of photos, align them, and then blend the sharpest plains of focus into one picture. To do this set your camera on a tripod and set it to Av(aperature mode) spin the wheel to drop your F-stop to as low as you can get it. Some lenses only drop to F3.5 which is still fine. Then switch your lens to manual focus. Focus until just the front part of your meteorite is in focus and take a picture, then keep taking pictures as you change the focus in small increments. You should end up with 5 to 10 pictures with different parts of the meteorite in focus. Open photoshop and the go FileScriptsLoad Files into Stack... Select all of the photos and be sure to check the box that says Attempt To Automatically Align Source Images. Select ok and let photoshop align the images. Then go under the tab Window and make sure Layers has a check next to it. The layers box should be on the right side of your screen. All the pictures will be listed under layers. Select them all. You can do this by holding ctrl key and clicking each one or click the first, then holding shift as you click the last. Once they are all selected go to the Edit tab and select Autoblend layers and choose to autblend them as a stack. Once it is done blending you need to click Save as and save it as a Jpeg because it will try to save it as something else. Then close out of the image in photo shop, if it asks you if you want to save click NO. Then you can open up the jpeg version you saved and edit it how you like (brightness/contrast etc..) or leave it as is. Here is an example i made with only 5 pictures blended: http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=viewcurrent=blended.jpg The fourth thing is highlight tone priority. You can enable this in your custom functions for canon shooters. I know Nikon has the setting but I don't know what it's called. This setting will make sure that your picture's highlights will not be blown out. It also allows your processor to use all its bits. My camera's have 14bit processors but if Highlight tone priority is off the image only processes at 10 bits. When i use HTP and get the full 14bits, this allows my picture to smooth out the changes in light to dark in my photos. This makes everything shaded better, especially clouds! The fourth and last thing is HDR photography(High Dynamic Range). You do not need a SLR to do this. Most point and shoot cameras can do this too! Sometimes a picture can be too dark in one part and too light in another. If you take one picture over exposed, one under exposed, and one properly exposed and blend them together it will allow all parts of your picture to be properly exposed. Here is an example: http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnmueller/2158395487/ an here is the link on how to do it: http://abduzeedo.com/how-create-hdr-photos-hdrphotomatix-tutorial Enjoy! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A Riot of over 300 regmaglypts!
Gorgeous stone! Wish I could put that on display in my room! Graham, that seems like buried treasure to me! It looks like it was worth the effort. [Erik] Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:38:12 + From: ensorama...@ntlworld.com To: meteoritefin...@yahoo.com CC: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] A Riot of over 300 regmaglypts! Robert, Thanks...I think it is always a difficult decision knowing what to do with a new acquisition. Do you restore, preserve, cut etc etc. This was purchased with the view to cleaning and is not likely to be anything but a very weathered ordinary chondrite but had such aesthetic potential. With some pieces it would be sacrilege to even think of cleaning off their characteristic natural patina, or cutting into oriented flowing crust. Others need delicate preservation to stop them ending up as a pile of rust but without changing their appearance or are such precious material that even touching with a slightly greasy finger would be wrong. I find the whole business of curating a collection quite fascinating. Regards, Graham meteoritefin...@yahoo.com meteoritefin...@yahoo.com wrote: Graham, I think you absolutely did the right thing. Very nicely done, and a gorgeous stone! Congrats, Robert Woolard On Jan 25, 2010, at 7:16 PM, ensorama...@ntlworld.com wrote: Hi All, It has taken many hours slowly removing the caliche without removing remnant crust or creating 'false' regmaglypts. I know some purists would rather see specimens in their 'found' state, but I just couldn't resist trying to bring this ugly duckling back to life. http://s760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/Graham-Ensor/8kgUNWA/ Graham, Nr Barwell, UK __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Dumb Questions About Meteors Meteorites
Eric, try this: One way to collect micrometeorites is to set a large shallow tray of water outside for a couple days. You should see some residue on the bottom in time. Cover a magnet with Saran wrap, wax paper or some other type of material. Pick up magnetic material in tray with your magnet and set on paper to dry. Observe material with a good- strong microscope. Some of what you see will be spherical balls- those are the micrometeorites. Steve from the nuggetshooter forum(http://www.nuggetshooter.ipbhost.com/index.php?showforum=4) posted that 2 years ago. There were great links and photos but the sites are long gone. I quote, If you're not having any luck hunting macrometeorites, try hunting micrometeorites. You'll never get skunked. Can someone with a microscope try this and post pictures if they can? [Erik] From: gmh...@htn.net To: sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 01:22:09 -0500 CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Dumb Questions About Meteors Meteorites Hi Sterling, I always enjoy your 'down-to-earth' reasoning! Thank you! :-) Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) gmh...@htn.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Sterling K. Webb To: Meteorites USA ; Meteorite-list Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:05 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Dumb Questions About Meteors Meteorites Hi, Eric, The Earth collects dust. Not just from meteors and meteoroids burning up in the atmosphere but directly from space. The Earth gravitationally collects solar wind particles, zodaical dust, interplanetary dust, interstellar dust, cometary dust, dust from a variety of sources. Whoops! I left out intergalactic dust... Dust falls in slowly and takes months (or years) to settle to the surface. It can be measured in the layers of ocean sediments and icecap cores. How much dust accumulates is hard to measure, so the amount has been a long-running question. Here's a really good discussion of the dust question: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/moon-dust.html although it's in the context of an age of the Earth argument with Creationists. Interplanetary dust is hard to analyse because it's so tiny: http://www.meteoriticalsociety.org/simple_template.cfm?code=resources_dustCFID=4156261CFTOKEN=70584526 Here's an interview with Don Brownlee (Mr. Dust): http://euro.astrobio.net/interview/742/extraterrestrial-capture A good summary of all the kinds of dust from out there: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_dust Or, just Google interplanetary dust and you will find many, many sources of information on dust infall: http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=interplanetary+dust+aq=faql=aqi=oq= then Google interstellar dust and Google zodaical dust and... Space is dusty. The Earth is dusty. And best of all, the Internet is dusty. Lots of information out there. Best of all, you can collect rainwater, then extract the metallic dust from it with magnets. Most of the dust will be human produced smoke dust, but the tiny dull metallic spheres are probably cosmic dust. Every time you walk out the door, you're stepping on cosmic dust. It's everywhere. If you spend a fair amount of time out in the open air, you probably have some cosmic dust incorporated into your body. I'm going to stop now, before I start singing that Joni Mitchell song... Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: Meteorites USA To: Meteorite-list Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:26 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Dumb Questions About Meteors Meteorites Hi Everyone, I'm not too sure how to broach the subject without stepping on toes, so I say this will all due respect to everyone who would be offended by the questions. I've been reading Meteorites by Caroline Smith, Sara Russell, and Gretchen Benedix, Firefly Books, 2009. Lovely book, with lots of information on meteorites, their origins, and composition, with loads of illustrations and great photography. As I was flipping through I found a mention about the total weight of meteoritic material which falls on our planet every year. On page 89 it states ...approximately 40,000-60,000 t of extraterrestrial material lands on Earth every year, the majority of which is in the form of tiny dust grains usually less than 1 mm (1/25 in) in size; importantly, most of this dust is believed to originate from comets... Doesn't this go against what science tells us about meteor showers? Don't the particles and sand-grain sized particles burn up in the atmosphere like science tells us they do? And if they don't burn up completely why does just about every text on meteors say they do?
Re: [meteorite-list] Some meteorite words
As if you hadn't read enough of them: Metoria (Mee-Tor-ee-ah) - The astroid belt. It's home to a lot of asteroids and meteoroids. Sikhotpox (See-coht-pocks) - A rash, usually on the hands/arms, resulting from an allergy to nickle. The rash may appear after several hours of fondling nickle/iron meteorites. [Erik] P.S. at least the limericks are gone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust Desirability
It's like paint on cars. I don't want to by an ordinary car without paint for the same price, or close to that, of an ordinary car with paint. In the case of the rarer meteorites, a Ferrari with no paint will still sell for a pretty big chunk of change. Paint or no Paint. [Erik] Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:36:03 -0800 From: photoph...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust Desirability Hello List, First off I would like to congratulate the people involved in the Springwater project. Now the question… Why does the presence of fusion crust on meteorites make them more desirable and worth more money, as appose to not having fusion crust present on a meteorite? Shawn Alan __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Star/Meteor Photos
Here is a flickr blog of the best photos of the starry sky http://blog.flickr.net/en/2010/01/02/your-best-shot-2009-starry-sky/ [Erik] __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What do you do when a meteorite crashes in your backyard?
Ah, you've done it now Jordy Verrill. You lunk head! Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 12:07:54 -0800 From: e...@meteoritesusa.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] What do you do when a meteorite crashes in your backyard? Hi Listees, This is a humorous question I saw on Answers.com, but figured it appropriate for the list and lighthearted enough to inspire some funny responses. The inflection is on YOU, and what YOU would do... Have fun, prosperous and HAPPY NEW YEAR! What do YOU do when a meteorite crashes in your backyard? Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What do you do when a meteorite crashes in your backyard?
It's from a movie, Creep show. You can watch the whole movie on youtube. It's a comic book style movie with multiple stories in the movie. On of the stories involves a farmer who finds a meteorite that landed in his yard. [Erik] Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 12:30:43 -0800 From: e...@meteoritesusa.com To: erikfw...@msn.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What do you do when a meteorite crashes in your backyard? ??? Did I miss something? ;( Regards, Eric On 1/1/2010 12:18 PM, Erik Fisler wrote: Ah, you've done it now Jordy Verrill. You lunk head! Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 12:07:54 -0800 From: e...@meteoritesusa.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] What do you do when a meteorite crashes in your backyard? Hi Listees, This is a humorous question I saw on Answers.com, but figured it appropriate for the list and lighthearted enough to inspire some funny responses. The inflection is on YOU, and what YOU would do... Have fun, prosperous and HAPPY NEW YEAR! What do YOU do when a meteorite crashes in your backyard? Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Hunt Today
My father and I will be hunting for cold finds near Phoenix tomorrow. If anyone we know want's to meet up and hunt together call my number or my father's. We'll probably leave around 6am to 9am but if you want to meet us in the field, that is fine too. Happy Hunting. [Erik] __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - December 31, 2009
Beautiful picture from Impactika! I'd like to order a poster size print of it for my room! lol Thank you Michael for bringing us RFSPOD. [Erik] Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:01:08 -0800 From: mich...@rocksfromspace.org To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - December 31, 2009 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/December_31_2009.html __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Christmas Toys!
Thanks dad for the new tripod, reflectors, and tungsten carbide scale cube that allow me to take pictures like this: http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=viewcurrent=NWA428g.jpg NWA 46.2g __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Christmas Toys!
I got a promaster 5 in 1 reflector. It really makes a difference in adding extra light to kick up my meteorite photographs. No hot lamps yet Mike, but soon. My scale cube number is #0208 Thanks Paul! [Erik] Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 13:13:37 -0500 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Christmas Toys! From: meteoritem...@gmail.com To: erikfw...@msn.com CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Hi Erik! Nice meteorite and cube. :) What kind of reflector(s) did you get? Any of them big light buckets? Best regards and clear skies, MikeG On 12/25/09, Erik Fisler wrote: Thanks dad for the new tripod, reflectors, and tungsten carbide scale cube that allow me to take pictures like this: http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=viewcurrent=NWA428g.jpg NWA 46.2g __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- . Michael Gilmer (Florida, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com FaceBook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone MySpace - http://www.myspace.com/fine_meteorites_4_sale Twitter - Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone eBay - http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/maypickle .. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Help! Rust!
My father and I bought 600+/- grams of SAU 001 from Dima at the Tucson Show two years ago. Dima had left them in storage and they had rusted pretty good. How do I kill the rust on my 74.2g stone? http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=viewcurrent=SAU001742g.jpg [Erik] __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas Paul. Happy quanza Jason... ;) [Erik] Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 22:15:26 -0800 From: meteorite...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Merry Christmas! I know, it was probably intended in good taste, etc, but...this is a meteorite list. Keep religion off it, please. Some of us don't believe (or are Jewish, Muslim, etc), and while I appreciate your sentiments, this is rather out of place. I don't go around wishing people a merry Chrsitmas 'sans god' because I know how people who believe will take it. Please offer all of us the same courtesy. Happy Holidays, Jason On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Paul G. Spears pgspe...@cox.net wrote: Hi, listees: Merry Christmas and a happy new year all year long to everyone! Baby Jesus, Son of God, creator of the universe, giver of life, the Redeemer, and the Reason for the Season! Let's celebrate His love for all mankind during this CHRISTmas. Each meteor I see, each meteorite I hold, and each colorful microphotograph of a thin slice reminds me of His coming to earth, His incarnation on the earth he created, and His plan for a new heaven and a new earth. Keep looking up! Paul __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question
In city conditions there is too much interference for a pulse detector anyway. Mark, I'm not sure about other VLF detectors but I do know that my GMT has a iron discriminator which tells me how much iron is in the target. The other problem with gold machines in the city is all the aluminum but on my GMT aluminum makes such a sharp high frequency sound that I can tell right away it's aluminum. At Franconia I know almost immediately if I've swung my detector over an aluminum bullet. The discriminator switch on the GMT is great for Franconia because the Sacramento Wash 005's make a zip-zip sound, the basalt makes a grunt-grunt sound and meteorites make a zip-grunt sound. I also have a 6 by 8 coil for weeding through areas of high trash. [Erik] Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:20:44 -0800 From: mina...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question Hi Erik and List, A gold machine can find all targets. But without a discriminating coin machine, you have to dig each target to find out what it is (be it foil, pull tabs, nails, etc.). If you only have an hour to hunt a park, that could mean the difference between recovering 30 coins with a DFX, or 5 with a GMT (with a lot more junk recovered). While a DFX can find gold/meteorites, all the folks I know will leave the coin machine at home. Dean, if you spend most of your time in a city, you would probably be best served with a coin machine as there are a lot of sites within easy reach. Since I bought a coin machine, I've done a lot more detecting because the gold/meteorite fields in my area require at least a day trip. I can fill a hours time now (or even less) and find some coins/jewelry. Good luck, Mark --- On Tue, 11/24/09, Erik Fisler wrote: From: Erik Fisler Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question To: meteorite-list Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 5:05 PM A good gold machine can find coins, a good coin machine can't necessarily find gold. White's Goldmaster series VLF detectors are great, Fisher's Gold Bug 2 is GREAT, and Minelabs 2100's are simple and great! or you can dive deeper into minelabs detectors and buy some really expensive detectors that are HOO on gold and meteorites but have tons of interference and pinpointing issues... I can take my GMT to the park and it's like shooting fish in a barrel... depends on if you are looking for small targets with low metal, or deep metal targets... happy hunting! [Erik] Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:16:57 -0800 From: mina...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question Hi Dean, I would draw a line between gold ( meteorites) and coins. A machine for all around hunting usually lowers the performance of the machine in those different styles of hunting. So many detectorists choose to own 2 machines (one for gold/meteorites and one for coins). For hunting gold in Australia I would go with the Minelab because they were developed in Australia in order to combat their heavily mineralized ground. They also make good coin machines. They may have a multi-use machine that does a good job. The newer multi-frequency machines would be something to look at. But again, 2 machines is better. Having a deep seeking gold machine, along with a coin machine better suited to finding shallow, small targets would increase the probability of success. I'm in the states and my Whites serves me well. I also have a coin machine that can hunt gold, but I always put it down and use my dedicated gold machine instead. Good luck, Mark B. Vail, AZ --- On Tue, 11/24/09, dean bessey wrote: From: dean bessey Subject: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 1:21 PM If somebody was wanting a metal detector with plans to use it searching for meteorites, gold nuggets and coins in Australia what would be the best metal detector to get? What things in general does one look for in buying a metal detector? Thanks DEAN __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http
Re: [meteorite-list] Gauteng: State declares ownership before meteorite is found
Who's going to pay for gas and food and give up time from friends and family to find something they can't keep, only to get a pat on the back?? Even if someone would do all that and actually found material from the fall they would most likely be hassled to make sure they didn't keep any. Koo Koo [Erik] Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:00:09 +0100 From: i...@niger-meteorite-recon.de To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Gauteng: State declares ownership before meteorite is found One really wonders if this approach offers sufficcient incentive to initiate recovery efforts: Eyewittness News: Meteor belongs to the state Gia Nicolaides The Astronomical Society of South Africa said on Wednesday a meteor had no monetary value and belonged to the state where it landed. Dozens of people claimed the meteor spotted over Gauteng at the weekend landed on their property. The astronomical society's Tim Cooper said even if it landed on someone's property, they did not own it. By law in this country any meteorite which hits the ground belongs to the state. So it will be given over to the universities to study its origins and its characteristics, after that it will become property of the state so somebody who finds this object will not be able top keep it, said Cooper. The fireball lit up the skies and was seen travelling from Johannesburg to the north of Pretoria at about 11pm on Saturday. As yet no one has found the rock. Source: http://www.eyewitnessnews.co.za/articleprog.aspx?id=27202 Best regards Svend drtanuki hat am 25. November 2009 um 00:21 geschrieben: Dear List, I have just posted two videos from the Gauteng 21Nov09 Fireball in South Africa. South Africa Meteor/Meteorite News- Gauteng Meteor 21NOV09 Videos 24NOV09: http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2009/11/south-africa-meteormeteorite-news.html --- Meteor/Meteorite News- 24NOV09 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2009/11/meteormeteorite-news-24nov09.html More Eyewitness accounts of the meteor Jacaranda 94.2 Botswana- These Meteorite created a complete daylight effect as far as I could see, except it was like a quartz halogen pure white light, which gradually faded to a ... Probe underway into Gauteng meteor sighting Primedia Broadcasting - Eyewitness News Science and Technology Minister Naledi Pandor on Monday requested detailed information about the meteor that passed over Gauteng at the weekend. ... Meteor lights up night sky Citizen JOHANNESBURG - Amateur astronomers are star-struck with the possibility that a meteorite might have crashed to earth somewhere in South Africa on Saturday ... Gauteng abuzz after meteor sighting Primedia Broadcasting - Eyewitness News Eyewitness News has also received reports of the meteor being spotted as far as Botswana. There was a very bright explosion, where the sky lit up as if it ... Search on for alleged meteorite Primedia Broadcasting - Eyewitness News Amateur astronomists across Gauteng said on Monday they were focussing their search for an alleged meteorite, which allegedly plummeted to earth on Saturday ... Meteor/Meteorite News- 23NOV09: Meteorite lights up Gauteng sky Times LIVE Amazed Johannesburg and Pretoria residents could hardly believe their eyes when a five-second lightning flash, thought to be a meteorite, lit up the night ... -- Meteor/Meteorite News- Gauteng, South Africa 21NOV09 Meteor 22NOV09: http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2009/11/meteormeteorite-news-22nov09.html Meteor lights up Gauteng Times LIVE It was a meteor which lit up the skies over Johannesburg and Pretoria on Saturday night, an astronomer has confirmed. The Leonid meteor shower in Thailand ... Meteor believed to be spotted in Gauteng Primedia Broadcasting - Eyewitness News Johannesburg and Pretoria residents have come forward, claiming they spotted a meteor in the skies on Saturday night. People in Gauteng saw the bright light ... Best Regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question
A good gold machine can find coins, a good coin machine can't necessarily find gold. White's Goldmaster series VLF detectors are great, Fisher's Gold Bug 2 is GREAT, and Minelabs 2100's are simple and great! or you can dive deeper into minelabs detectors and buy some really expensive detectors that are HOO on gold and meteorites but have tons of interference and pinpointing issues... I can take my GMT to the park and it's like shooting fish in a barrel... depends on if you are looking for small targets with low metal, or deep metal targets... happy hunting! [Erik] Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:16:57 -0800 From: mina...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question Hi Dean, I would draw a line between gold ( meteorites) and coins. A machine for all around hunting usually lowers the performance of the machine in those different styles of hunting. So many detectorists choose to own 2 machines (one for gold/meteorites and one for coins). For hunting gold in Australia I would go with the Minelab because they were developed in Australia in order to combat their heavily mineralized ground. They also make good coin machines. They may have a multi-use machine that does a good job. The newer multi-frequency machines would be something to look at. But again, 2 machines is better. Having a deep seeking gold machine, along with a coin machine better suited to finding shallow, small targets would increase the probability of success. I'm in the states and my Whites serves me well. I also have a coin machine that can hunt gold, but I always put it down and use my dedicated gold machine instead. Good luck, Mark B. Vail, AZ --- On Tue, 11/24/09, dean bessey deanbes...@yahoo.com wrote: From: dean bessey deanbes...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Metal detector Question To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 1:21 PM If somebody was wanting a metal detector with plans to use it searching for meteorites, gold nuggets and coins in Australia what would be the best metal detector to get? What things in general does one look for in buying a metal detector? Thanks DEAN __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - November 20, 2009
Very nice find. Keep up the good work Sonny. [Erik] Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:03:20 -0800 From: mich...@rocksfromspace.org To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - November 20, 2009 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/November_20_2009.html __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] LCROSS Alien?
looks like the Grinch with a white beard [Erik] Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:41:59 -0800 From: e...@meteoritesusa.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] LCROSS Alien? Hi List, LCROSS mission: Aliens are watching... Alien face in ejecta plume. http://www.meteoritesusa.com/fun/LCROSS-Alien.jpg Some Photoshop fun for ya! Enjoy... ;) Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Full time meteorite people.
John Wolfe hunts for meteorites so he can sell them for pennies on the dollar at quartzite or dirt cheap to fellow list members so that he can have enough pocket change to put gas in his truck and get a few cans of beans. It's hard not to have a constant stream of income. [Erik] From: gee...@msn.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:17:22 -0700 Subject: [meteorite-list] Full time meteorite people. To all, I've often wondered how many people are full time hunter/collectors of meteorites. In other words, how many people earn their living strictly from the hunting, collecting, trading, and selling of meteorites, and have no side jobs to supplement their meteorite income? What percentage would be a good guess? Greg Lindh __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Secret Find/Fall Coordinates andLegitimacy-Someone help me understand this.
ed375177f17d4d16b2f4cbd70b5cf...@bellatrix Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Chris is right guys!=A0 We should only care about what effects us personall= y inside our little bubble.=A0 I should use that reasoning in my life!=A0 W= hen I find a new meteorite I won't bother to get it classified because I wi= ll have my sample to show my friends. Tough love for those guys who would= love to see the new classification or find some themselves.=A0 I don't get= to hide behind It's for the good of science! like Farmer and used on new= AZ fall or Chris has with coords shouldn't prevent classifications.=20 It's extremely nice to get my fix by finding meteorites in existing field= s between hunting for cold finds. Also=2C=A0 if it wasn't for the coordinates of the Franconia and Gold Basin= strewn fields here in Arizona then they wouldn't have been hit so hard wit= h metal detectors. If they hadn't been hit so hard with detectors=2C many s= eparate falls would not have been discovered.=A0 For example: King Tut=2C P= alo Verde Mine=2C Buck Mountain 001 through 003=2C Sacramento Wash 001 thro= ugh 005.=A0 Sacramento Wash=2C being chondritic iron=2C would never have be= en pushed to classification and you wouldn't have your sample to work on.= =A0 I do not even want to get started on pairing pieces to falls 'Comrades!' he cried. 'You do not imagine=2C I hope=2C that we pigs are doing this in a spirit of selfishness and privilege? Many of us actually dislike milk and apples. I dislike them myself. Our sole object in= taking these things is to preserve our health. Milk and apples (this has = been proved by Science=2C comrades) contain substances absolutely necessary= to the well-being of a pig. We pigs are brainworkers. The whole manageme= nt and organisation of this farm depend on us. Day and night we are watchi= ng over your welfare. It is for your sake that we drink the milk and eat t= hose apples. Do you know what would happen if we pigs failed in our duty? Jones would come back! Yes=2C Jones would come back! Surely=2C comrades=2C' cried Squealer almost pleadingly=2C skipping from side to side and whisking his tail=2C 'surely there is no one among you who wants to see Jones come back?' Who among you wants to see the media circus come back?!! [Erik] From: c...@alumni.caltech.edu To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tue=2C 27 Oct 2009 20:28:03 -0600 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Secret Find/Fall CoordinatesandLegitimacy-= Someone help me understand this. =20 If one doesn't have the coordinates of one or more stones of an interesting or important stone=2C one doesn't know=2C where to look for more. =20 Of course. And I recognize the importance of that to meteorite collectors= =2C=20 hunters=2C and dealers. But as a scientist=2C I mainly want a few grams=20 accessible for analysis. The rest simply doesn't matter- scientifically. =20 And with the coordinates of the fragments=2C you can map the strewnfield=2C determine the strewn-ellipse and from there you can deduct the trajectory of the meteorid and fragmentation events. =20 I have serious doubts that this is practical. The paper is interesting=2C= but=20 I question its conclusions. A strewn field is not very closely related to= a=20 meteor trajectory in most cases. This paper presents a model with no=20 observational confirmation. And it utilizes a strewn field that stretches= =20 over kilometers. It is rare enough for coordinates to be withheld=2C and = even=20 rarer=2C I expect=2C when dozens of meteorites are recovered over large f= ields. =20 To put it more empirically=2C I have been reading MAPS and other journals= with=20 meteoritical papers for years. I've seen hundreds or thousands of article= s=20 comparing meteorite mineralogy=2C formation theory=2C asteroid associatio= n=2C etc=2C=20 but not more than a dozen or so papers detailing the orbit=2C flight=20 characteristics=2C and strewn field of meteorites- despite the fact that = most=20 meteorites have well described coordinates and many have well mapped stre= wn=20 fields. I honestly don't see the very small number of undisclosed locatio= ns=20 having any significant impact on the science of meteoritics at all. =20 Of course=2C I'm not arguing against disclosing locations=2C only that fa= iling=20 to disclose the location should not prevent a meteorite from being named = and=20 classified. That would be far more damaging to science. =20 Chris =20 * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com =20 =20 - Original Message -=20 From: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday=2C October 27=2C 2009 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Secret Find/Fall Coordinates=20 andLegitimacy-Someone help me understand this. =20 =20 I recognize that there are rare
[meteorite-list] photobucket test. [DELETE]
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[meteorite-list] Holbrook Blitz
Recently pops and I drove up to Holbrook for a quick one day hunt. Considering that we didn't even spend 8 hours looking we made out like bandits. I have insitu pictures, cleaned up pictures, and total pictures which is quite a few so Ill here are our two totals first for people who don't have time to sift through a lot of pictures: Erik's Total (14.7g's)- http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=viewcurrent=IMG_4197.jpg Dad's Total (18g's)- http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=viewcurrent=IMG_4198.jpg Here is my dad with his 8.7 gram stone: http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=viewcurrent=IMG_4015copy.jpg Here are the isitu pictures: http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3887copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3894copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3907copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3920copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3928copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3932copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3955copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3965copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3970copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3973copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3979copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3982copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3984copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3985copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3989copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3991copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3993copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3999copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4001copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4004copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4005copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4006copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4008copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4020copy.jpg Here are the cleaned up shots. There are two shots, a front and back, for each stone. The cube shows T for Top and B for bottom. Dad's: http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4128.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4130copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4131.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4132.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4133.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4135.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4136.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4138.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4139.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4140.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4141.jpg Erik's: http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4152.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4154.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4155.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4158.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4159.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4160.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4161.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4162.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4163.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4164.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4165.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4166.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4168.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4169.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4170.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4171.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4172.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4174.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4176.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4177.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4178.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4179.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4180.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4181.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4182.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4183.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4184.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4185.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4186.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4187.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4188.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4189.jpg
Re: [meteorite-list] Wind Scorpion Meteorite Hunter
haha awesome shoot! nice mascot... [Erik] Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:56:26 -0700 From: raremeteori...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Wind Scorpion Meteorite Hunter I found this Wind Scorpion on my back porch, actually he found me. He was chasing me around for a bit but I managed to capture him. I was trying to take some closeup pictures of him (Bandito)on a pile of Bensours when he picked out one to his liking. Actually he tried to abscond with the smallest one but began to protect the entire pile. Sonny was talking about meteorite hunting dogs but this Wind Scorpion is already trained as can be seen in the images below: Introducing Bandito: http://themeteoritesite.com/Shot-3.jpg Look into my eyes: http://themeteoritesite.com/Shot-2.jpg Hmm, I like this one: http://themeteoritesite.com/Shot-7.jpg http://themeteoritesite.com/Shot-1.jpg Yep, this one is mine: http://themeteoritesite.com/Shot-4.jpg I love meteorites, they are all mine: http://themeteoritesite.com/Shot-5.jpg Best Regards, Adam __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Macro Photos
I had the chance to use a pair of extension tubes on my Xsi with the 50mm lense so I took some shots of some of the meteorites my father and I have found. Enjoy =] http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=viewcurrent=EHB2.jpg I wanted to see how small of a stone I could snap so here is a micro Holbrook that I found. http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=viewcurrent=EHB1.jpg Here is a larger Holbrook That I found. http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=viewcurrent=DRL1.jpg This is my father's Red Lake find. http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=viewcurrent=BH1p1.jpg This is a shot of one of my father's Holbrooks. http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=viewcurrent=BH2p1.jpg This is a shot of another one of my father's Holbrooks. http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=viewcurrent=EFRL1p1.jpg This is a shot of my first meteorite, a Franconia Area L Chondrite. http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=viewcurrent=BST1p1.jpg http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=viewcurrent=BST1p2.jpg Here is a possible meteorite my Dad found. Little to no magnetic attraction. http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=viewcurrent=BFR1p1.jpg Here is Franconia with flow lines that my father found in pristine desert pavement. Here is it's insitu:http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=viewcurrent=P6030008.jpg http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=viewcurrent=BCF1p1.jpg http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=viewcurrent=BCF1p2.jpg These two shots are of an extremely weathered cold find my father found in Arizona. http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=viewcurrent=BFR2p1.jpg This Franconia that my father found appears to have a crater. http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=viewcurrent=BFRI1p1.jpg Here are some of my father's Sacremento Wash 005's. Thank you for your time! __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunters Sentenced- new information
That's a extremely dramatic. Of course all of that happens every day but you leave out the vast majority of the population in the country! Exaggerating doesn't prove points. Im not telling to to stop living your life as a petrified man looking around every corner. I'm telling you it's not fair to anyone who reads this thread to be reading blunt exaggerations. You make it sound as if because I haven't been wronged by someone in the past month that I'm freakishly lucky. Sensible people in rural areas put up cheap fences and no trespassing signs in the rest of the U.S. Unless this lady assumes that all persons are carrying land status maps and anyone on her land MUST know that they are trespassing! Oh don't forget about senility!!! Senile old lady... If she is lacking in the security department because she is a poor old lady who lives alone she should be living with family or a retirement home! I love how she pressed charges after she found out they weren't stealing any of her prized possessions. Read Aesop's The Dog and the Manger. I'm glad someone had the fortitude to get those meteorites off that lady's land. [Erik] From: cyna...@charter.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:22:42 -0500 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunters Sentenced- new information On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:20:47 EDT, you wrote: land, I would run out of ammo. Crossing someone's land that is not fenced and posted is not that big of a deal in a civilized culture. The point I was wanting to make, and I'll drop this issue-- is that we do NOT live in a civilized culture. We live in a culture where every day of the week people are murdered for their pocket change, or for fun. We live in a culture where meth-heads come on to your land and steal everything that isn't nailed down (then steal the things that are nailed down, like power lines, and ripping apart air conditioners for copper) for a cheap fix. We live in a culture where people face home invasions, where the home-owners are tied up, beaten, tortured, and often killed for whatever small amount of money can be extracted from them. We live in a culture were guns are cheap, easily avaialible, and there are people who place no value on human life. This happened a couple of counties away from me not long ago: http://www.google.com/search?q=serial%20killer%20gaffneyhl=enned=ustab=nw So, no, being concerned about strange men wandering around on your land isn't crackpottery-- it is realism. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Like To Rant Online?
Actually, I had an officer review a threat comment on my myspace after some kid threw rocks through my window. The officer explained that there was no way to prove it was that kid that typed the threat. Cute little anecdote. :/ I would explain the the judge that I hand my password out on business cards to friends, and even strangers almost on a daily basis and allow family members to use my computer all the time. [Erik] Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 07:58:34 -0700 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com From: j...@cox.net Subject: [meteorite-list] Like To Rant Online? Good Morning Listees, Here's the link to an interesting article that appeared on the front page of this mornings Arizona Republic newspaper. In light of the many posts that have been made over the past few days about an incident involving two members of our Meteorite List and Community, I thought everyone might benefit by reading this article. We should all weigh our words (notice I said we) carefully before posting anything anywhere on the Internet. Have a great day, John Gwilliam John Gwilliam Too many people were born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple. John Gwilliam Too many people were born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Boy 6 finds meteorite....
Joe Dirt! Its my lucky meteor!!! Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:48:40 -0400 From: meteoritem...@gmail.com To: tommy2...@hvc.rr.com CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Boy 6 finds meteorite It looks like Santa left him a lump of coal. ;) On 8/20/09, Tom Randall (KB2SMS) wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1207865/Boy-6-goes-collect- eggs-hens--finds-meteorite.html __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- . Michael Gilmer (Florida, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Personal Site - http://www.glassthrower.com FaceBook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone MySpace - http://www.myspace.com/fine_meteorites_4_sale Twitter - Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone eBay - http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/maypickle .. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mars eaters
Just stay away from the NWA's or you might end up eating a camel turd! [Erik] From: vk3...@hotmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 16:54:33 +1000 Subject: [meteorite-list] Mars eaters Hi folks, this eating and tasting has been going on for a long time, I myself ate some Mars in the late 1980s or early 1990s in front of Tom the cactus/meteorite man at Springvale in Melbourne. Previously mentioned a couple of years ago. A lot of minerals have taste, and I like to use all my available senses if possible. - Kevin Forbes vk3ukf at hotmail.com Wed Jan 17 00:58:49 EST 2007 Previous message: [meteorite-list] eaten meteorite Next message: [meteorite-list] Meteor strikes Alex City house? Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] - Hi, that's funny. I'm not so silly after all. ?? Well, maybe I am, but, I ate some dust and crumbs that came from a bit Zagami some years ago, that I obtained from Rob Haag. I must admit to not noticing any differnce between normal Earth rock dirt taste and Zagami at all. It didn't have any Martian flavouring in it whatsoever, and I gave it a good suck too. Yes I do eat dirt and rocks occasionally, I like to see what all of my senses have to offer, when I'm looking at minerals, crystals and so on. Try tasting a small sample of a mineral called pickeringite, I found some about 50 miles from here at the end of an old gold mine drive. Slate with pyrites were the country rock. Just in case you can't find any, it's like allum. From memory, I think it's an hydrous iron sulphate. OOOoo My mouth when tasting pickeringite. Cheers, Kevin, VK3UKF. --- So, is there now a name for folks that taste minerals. As you can see, I often suck rocks if I think there may be some indicator apart from rockish. If the sample contains salts, it will have flavour. I don't suck every rock I find or get, can't imagine giving cinnabar or saleeite or good lick. I missed the start of this thread, of to find it. Kevin. _ Use Windows Live Messenger from your Hotmail inbox Web IM has arrived! http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=823454 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - August 1, 2009
I agree Geoff, those are some awesome pictures! I hope i can get to hunt in some wild places like that some day. I have a lot of good shots I've taken while meteorite hunting. Most are in my monochromatic album. http://gallery.me.com/eriksunvalleyphoto/16 happy hunting! [Erik] From: geok...@notkin.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 18:37:16 -0700 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - August 1, 2009 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/August_1_2009.html Dear Phillippe and Michael: What a gorgeous photo! I went on to look through the Meteoritica site, and some of Philippe's adventure photos are stunning. I highly recommend that List members make a visit to these photo albums: http://www.meteoritica.com/arabian%20sands.htm http://www.meteoritica.com/saharan%20pictures.htm Beautiful work by a very talented photographer. My compliments. Geoff N. www.aerolite.org www.meteoritemen.com www.meteoriteblog.org __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mr. Cottingham
I suggest blocking the opposing party's email so you wont get their adds. Don't like a dealer? -block them Don't like reading someone's posts? -block them Don't like limericks? -unfortunately we are all s.o.l. on that one. :/ Happy Hunting! [Erik] From: parkforest...@hotmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:55:17 -0500 Subject: [meteorite-list] Mr. Cottingham Michael, It's really time for you to respect the list and follow the ad rule. I'll never understand your playground mentality. You slap me in the face with ads and I'm a whiner? I guess that makes you the ad bully. You shouldn't use words like hate. They betray your own mind. Bill _ Bing™ brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurantsform=MLOGENpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TXT_MLOGEN_Local_Local_Restaurants_1x1 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Question For The List ???? WHO IS THE BEST AND MOST SUCCESSFUL METEORITE HUNTER OUT THERE?
I can tell you why I think Sonny Clary and John Wolf are the most successfull hunters. John Wolf knows his detector as if he was born with it. He doesn't miss a meteorite in an area. He grids by eye and detector until every inch is covered. He is also a nice guy who sells his finds for penny's on the dollar just to have enough money to pay for gas and the next months beans to eat. Also doesn't stick his nose in anyone's business. Sonny Clary has many finds rare and common under his belt. He has boxes of ordinary chondrites and many rare pieces including the only achondrite to be found on this continent. Sonny keeps to himself but would help anyone. When I went to vegas for thanksgiving he invited my father and I to his house and gave me a lot of great advise and even showed us some good valleys to hunt in. These two guys are not only successful hunters but they help many people to become successful hunters unlike some of the selfish jerks who some might call successful. It doesn't matter if you find something special if no one wants to hear you open your smug ass mouth to talk about it. [Erik] From: mikew...@gilanet.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:14:26 -0700 Subject: [meteorite-list] Question For The List WHO IS THE BEST AND MOST SUCCESSFUL METEORITE HUNTER OUT THERE? Hello, This is a simple question or is it? How do you determine who is the best and most successful meteorite hunter in the world? I am curious? Michael __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Arizone fall a secret ?
Greg, I would be glad to take you out to some great desert pavement for a hunt anytime. I can't geruntee that a meteorite has fallen there or that you will find anything.I can geruntee that you will learn ALOT and you don't have to worry about part of one of the many exclusive groups in the meteorite community. I had many people go out of their way to teach me what they new about meteorites or give me a boost in anyway they could. Jim Smaller, Bill Southern, Sony Clary, Anne Black, John Wolf, Dima Sadilenko, Twink Monrad, Geoff Notkin,and many others have all contributed something to my alfiction for meteorite in one way or another.I feel that I would have to do the same for anyone who has the same hunger as I havefor this hobby. I don't know where you live but I live in Phoenix. [Erik] Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 13:48:06 -0700 From: star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Arizone fall a secret ? In a week or so, we will see another ordinary chondrite at $100 per gram (or more since this is a secret fall) I dont want to hear about leg work and labor when they turn down help from people who would like to take part in it and learn from them in the field. This would have been my first hunt, and I guess I am just discovering reality when it comes to meteorites. If your not a big dealer you get left out. Greg C. --- On Sun, 7/5/09, Mike Bandli wrote: From: Mike Bandli Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Arizone fall a secret ? To: 'Greg Catterton' , meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 4:37 PM Hi Greg, This has nothing to do with price. Jack's team that did a tremendous amount of legwork and labor to recover this fall and it is up to them when/if to reveal any details. As much as I would like to be there, I respect the fact that they earned this fall. I doubt any of this material will be sold anyway. When you work that hard to find something, it just isn't worth selling. Kind regards, Mike Bandli -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Greg Catterton Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 1:12 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Arizone fall a secret ? I would like to go join the hunt for meteorites at the recent fall, but it seems this is being kept a secret location... Is this to drive the prices up? One would think extra sets of eyes and hands would be great, but in my opinion it seems a select group is the only ones who will be allowed hunting the field then they will in turn charge $100 per gram, yet again for something that is worth far less. Not cool at all. I know I will not be buying from any of you hunting ever again who dont want to allow someone to tag along for the first hunt they would do. If this is the way you big time hunters want to conduct yourselves, it shows just what your intentions are. Money. Greg C. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] HOT Meteorite Hunting
The heat isn't that bad at night. It's only 90 degrees at night with a warm breeze at franconia. Just strap a maglight to your detector and grab a head light and 20 AA batteries and your good. I've found that I find more at night because I wander aimlessly instead of hitting the spots that look good to everyone else who walks through the field. We hunted till 9am when it got up to 110 degrees and then we drove to Needles and slept in an ice cold motel room till the sun set before grabbing breakfast and heading back out to Franconia. Here is a video of a night hunt we did about a year ago. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5gDa6dJ5Ac [Erik] On 7/3/09, Adam Hupe wrote: Dear List Members, I cannot tell you how many people have inquired about meteorite hunting here in beautiful, friendly and very hot Laughlin, Nevada, USA. Although it is in the middle of the very best meteorite hunting grounds in the Southwest, this is not the time of year to hunt. Gold basin, Franconia, Red Lake, Ivanpah and Primm, all within and hour or so drive may be 10 degrees Fahrenheit cooler but still well over 100 degrees on most days this time of year. Here is an example that illustrates just how hot it gets here. I looked at the temperature gauge on my back patio and it was maxed out at 120 degrees Fahrenheit in the shade although the local paper stated it only got up to 116 degrees. I always heard that it gets hot enough to fry eggs on rocks so I gave it a try on my patio. The results can be seen at the links below: Egg Frying On Porch Link: http://themeteoritesite.com/Z-Egg-a.jpg Close-up: http://themeteoritesite.com/Z-Egg-b.jpg It only took about 20 minutes to get the egg to over-easy. Imagine if this was your head. Be careful if you are brave enough to hunt in these conditions. Bring lots of water, sunscreen and protective clothing. Best Regards from the hottest meteorite hunting grounds in the United States, Adam __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- . Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network. Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com .. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] More stupid media use of meteorites
take some cool effects and mix them with the newest Y2k end of the world plot and every possible natural desaster know to man. Badah Bing Badah Boom. We are simple creatures... [Erik] From: cyna...@charter.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:13:53 -0500 Subject: [meteorite-list] More stupid media use of meteorites http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/2012/trailer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Franconia Victory
I met up with Nate at Franconia Thursday morning for a few days of hunting. He showed me his 100+ gram L chondrite he found on the southside and it really blew me away! What a large L and it is just gorgeous. Here is a picture of it: http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=viewcurrent=a6.jpg We hunted the southside for two days looking for large Franconia's, Buck Mountain's, and small Palo Verde and Buck Mountain L's. We didn't find anything but it was easy hunting. My Dad drove up and hunted with us saturday and sunday on the north side and we managed to find an unhunted patch and pulled out some very nice finds. Here are the finds from our little patch: http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=viewcurrent=cIMG_2654.jpg Here are our totals http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=viewcurrent=EriksTotal.jpg Erik's 248 grams (127g, 38.8g, 13.5g, 12.4g, 3.1g 2.4g) http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=viewcurrent=DadsTotal.jpg Ben's 383.5 grams (191.4g, 156.9g, 10.2g, 25g) Here are some cool pictures I snapped on the trip with my new Canon XSI. The 14 bit processor in it really takes in good color and gradiation =] http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=viewcurrent=cIMG_2533.jpg artsy desert pavement picture http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=viewcurrent=cIMG_2561.jpg Nate fisheyed haha http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=viewcurrent=cIMG_2580.jpg Awesome Sunset! 3 second exposure. http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=viewcurrent=cIMG_2626.jpg Moon Rise with my Fisheye! 10 second exposure. [Erik] __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - June 13, 2009
Thats like waving a steak in front of a dog. [Erik] From: spacerocks...@aol.com Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 22:15:57 -0400 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - June 13, 2009 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/June_13_2009.html __ **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377049x1201454365/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=62bcd= JunestepsfooterNO62) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
