[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Pic
WOW!! Huh? -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 12:00 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 92, Issue 85 Send Meteorite-list mailing list submissions to meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com You can reach the person managing the list at meteorite-list-ow...@meteoritecentral.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Meteorite-list digest... Today's Topics: 1. AD - 24hrs eBay Benguerir Slice - Japan Benefit (fallingfus...@wi.rr.com) 2. MESSENGER Sends Back First Image of Mercury from Orbit (Shawn Alan) 3. Color of OC's by Staining or by Trace Elements (Laurence Garvie) 4. Tucson event change (April 9th) (Mark Bowling) 5. Re: Response to fraudulent E-bay listing using my name (Impactika (Brian Cox) 6. Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 31, 2011 (Michael Johnson) 7. Schellin (Jan Woreczko - www.meteoritica.eu) 8. Ft. Collins, CO meteor 6:20 am 31MAR2011 (drtanuki) 9. Re: Color of OC's by Staining or by Trace Elements (Count Deiro) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 23:04:17 -0400 From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com Subject: [meteorite-list] AD - 24hrs eBay Benguerir Slice - Japan Benefit To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: 20110331030417.UJ2DL.8949.root@cdptpa-web11-z02 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Good Evening List, I had listed a very nice, thin slice of Benguerir LL6 - it now closes in just over 24hrs and the current bid is still at $18 (!). As an additional note on this auction, 20% of the final sale price will go to the Japan Earthquake and Tsunami Relief fund. As always, thank you for your time and consideration. All the best, Ryan http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=270725585123ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT -- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 22:06:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] MESSENGER Sends Back First Image of Mercury from Orbit To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: 613608.51616...@web35403.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ron and Listers Great post Ron and I think I see NWA 2999 :) Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html [meteorite-list] MESSENGER Sends Back First Image of Mercury from OrbitRon Baalke baalke at zagami.jpl.nasa.gov Wed Mar 30 13:40:43 EDT 2011 Previous message: [meteorite-list] Color of OC's by Staining or by Trace Elements Next message: [meteorite-list] MESSENGER Sends Back First Image of Mercury from Orbit Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/news_room/details.php?id=165 MESSENGER Mission News March 29, 2011 MESSENGER Sends Back First Image of Mercury from Orbit MESSENGER has delivered its first image http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/gallery/sciencePhotos/image.php?gallery_id=2image_id=432 since entering orbit about Mercury on March 17. It was taken today at 5:20 am EDT by the Mercury Dual Imaging System as the spacecraft sailed high above Mercury's south pole, and provides a glimpse of portions of Mercury's surface not previously seen by spacecraft. The image was acquired as part of the orbital commissioning phase of the MESSENGER mission. Continuous global mapping of Mercury will begin on April 4. The entire MESSENGER team is thrilled that spacecraft and instrument checkout has been proceeding according to plan, says MESSENGER Principal Investigator Sean Solomon, of the Carnegie Institution of Washington. The first images from orbit and the first measurements from MESSENGER's other payload instruments are only the opening trickle of the flood of new information that we can expect over the coming year. The orbital exploration of the Solar System's innermost planet has begun. Several other images will be available Wednesday, March 30, in conjunction with a media teleconference at 2 p.m. EDT to discuss the initial orbital images taken from the first spacecraft to orbit Mercury. Media teleconference participants are: -- Sean Solomon, MESSENGER principal investigator, Carnegie Institution of Washington -- Eric Finnegan, MESSENGER mission systems engineer, Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory, Laurel. Md. To participate in the teleconference, reporters must contact Dwayne Brown at dwayne.c.brown at nasa.gov or 202-358-1726 for dial-in instructions. During the teleconference, MESSENGER information and images will be available at http://www.nasa.gov/messenger and
[meteorite-list] Darren's loss
?Very sorry for your loss Darren. Jerry __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Holiday
?May the Spirit of the Holiday pervade and infuse every corner of our everyday lives always and forever __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] greetings to all around the world and BEYOND
?LOVE THAT TOUCH! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks from space picture of the day
?Well, that just about blows away the notion that vesicles are an uncommon feature in meteorites. Oh, I know... the exception that proves the rule. [whatever that means] Jerry Flaherty __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] sad news
?My condolences Steve and of course to your wife and her family. Most unhappy news at Christmas __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] test
test Jerry Flaherty __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] test
test Jerry Flaherty __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 88, Issue 12
Spoken like a man after my own heart Jerry Flaherty -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 12:00 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 88, Issue 12 Send Meteorite-list mailing list submissions to meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com You can reach the person managing the list at meteorite-list-ow...@meteoritecentral.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Meteorite-list digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: David's NWA 6155 - a CK4 with W0 and TKW 53 grams (karmaka) 2. Re: NASA Finds New Life Form (Michael Blood) 3. AD: NWA 6163 the Holes Iron - last slice + other great meteorites (Mirko Graul) 4. Re: NASA Finds New Life Form (Meteorites USA) 5. AD: The Largest Sale Auction Run Of The Year- Starts NOW! (michael cottingham) 6. Details on Mbale (Regine Petersen) 7. Re: NASA Finds New Life Form (Thomas) 8. Re: Details on Mbale (almi...@localnet.com) 9. Re: Rocks from Space Picture of Day - December 3, 2010 (Meteorite-Recon.com) 10. AD eBay and Millbillillie pieces (Tomasz Jakubowski) 11. Re: Details on Mbale (Regine Petersen) -- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 19:32:00 +0100 (CET) From: karmaka karm...@email.de Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] David's NWA 6155 - a CK4 with W0 and TKW 53 grams To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: 66536330.2066100.1291573920416.javamail.fm...@mwmweb019 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I agree with you Bernd. The slices are rare, FRESH and beautiful. I've already bought one. Don't wait too long... Best Martin -Urspr?ngliche Nachricht- Von: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de Gesendet: 05.12.2010 17:21:58 An: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] David's NWA 6155 - a CK4 with W0 and TKW 53 grams Hello List, Yesterday my young German fellow meteorite collector David G. offered nine slices of his very fresh, carbonaceous chondrite NWA 6155. It was classified by Tony Irving as a CK4 with a TKW of only (!) 53 grams. Those of you who have already seen the pictures David has taken of this carbonaceous beauty, can, without a doubt, confirm that this *is* a fresh CK4 (hence W0!) and its extremely low TKW certainly make it worth a closer look and a desirable addition to one's collection! Even though the online Meteoritical Bulletin says it is a CK5, it is actually a CK4 (Tony Irving, pers. comm. with David). This is your chance to acquire a stunningly fresh CK4 chondrite. Our young student from Saxony would certainly appreciate it! Of the twenty-nine CK4 chondrites from NWA hitherto listed in the Bulletin, none has been assigned a weathering degree of W0: W0 = none W0/1 = one W1 = four low = 2 -- Best pre-Xmas wishes, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Message: 2 Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2010 16:33:24 -0800 From: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NASA Finds New Life Form To: jimsk...@aol.com, Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: c9216f54.1482b%mlbl...@cox.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Hi Jim and all, Personally, I am weary of hearing about God is dead .and Atheists - not to mention figures from various religious Sects - they ALL seem to think of God as some anthropomorphic Male big know-it-all, vengeful, anti sex, homophobic HUMAN - not all that far removed from Greek mythological gods. I don't believe in the same God the atheists don't believe in. Ironically, they seem to be willing to throw out everything not of this Physical plane as well. Being anti religion does not require being anti Metaphysical. How it was that Christians (and I use the term VERY loosely) Decided that God and evolution are somehow magically incompatible Is beyond me as well. To conclude that if life did not originate on Earth somehow negates anything at all flabbergasts me. Is this the 1600s or what? Amen and hookie zookie, Michael On 12/5/10 6:02 AM, jimsk...@aol.com jimsk...@aol.com wrote: The debate begins. Does a New Life Form Mean God Is Dead? _http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/12/04/does-a-new-life-form-mean-god-is-de ad/?icid=main%7Chtmlws-main-n%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%7C188214_ (http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/12/04/does-a-new-life-form-mean-god-is-dead
Re: [meteorite-list] Unconscious Ideomotor Response Test
So as the term educate = to lead out - we struggle to lead and be lead out of the mists which cloud our consciousness to a reality beyond..??? as Plato's images on the cave walls lend to confuse. -- From: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 6:54 AM To: JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com; Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Unconscious Ideomotor Response Test According to Jung, ultimately, we all know everything. Those devoted exclusively to logic are as blind as those devoted Exclusively to religious dogma. As the ol' Bard said, There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy. 'nuff said, Michael On 10/21/10 6:49 AM, JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com wrote: Mark: That's the point of the experiment. It's to prove the existence of the ideomotor response. I've read the literature, I don't believe in dowsing, just the ideomoter reaction to it. When farmers and plumbers find underground pipes, they obviously already know where they are. Phil Whitmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] the end,it has to be this time
Be looking for you down the road Steve. -- From: steve arnold stevenarnold60...@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 7:47 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] the end,it has to be this time Good evening list.I have really been thinking it over this time long and hard,and I have decided that this is the time to leave the meteorite world once and for all.The passion is gone.I cannot collect the way I want to and it is just getting way to expensive.Even tho I am working and most everything else in my world is going good,knock on wood,it is the right time.11 years,many great people,some not so great,and thousands of meteorites.I just have lost that luvin, feeling.I will be able to fall back on my first love,coin collecting.As for my current sale,please feel free to make a reasonable offer and I know I will probably make it a good one for you.I have had many world class pieces and most have found great homes. My other collection has 3 offers that I am probably going to sell to.So all is going and soon there will not even be a trace a meteorite ever existed in this home.I will hang onto some of emails from certain listee's the others I will delete.Its been a blast,but this time it is for real.Good luck to everyone and gos bless you all and this great hobby. Steve R.Arnold, Chicago! http://Chicagometeorites.com/ ebay:Illinoismeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron
The Classical Geeks?? -- From: JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 12:44 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron Hi Eric, A big Duh!! on my part. Thanks for pointing out the obvious. Chris, I concede your point, Albert was no expert on the human nervous system. And you're right, everyone is a philospher. And everyone says dumb stuff, e.g. look at all the silly things that Hawking says. When it comes to philosophy, give me the Classical Greeks any day. Phil Whitmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: October 4-8, 2010
Thank you Elton. I'll study on it. Jerry -- From: MEM mstrema...@yahoo.com Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 1:28 PM To: Jerry Flaherty g...@comcast.net; Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: October 4-8, 2010 The term rift valley/rift is somewhat subjective as a rift proper is normally associated with plate movement but this example in not from the tectonic plate movement we are familiar with on earth. This valley resulted from a tectonic process. Specifically a branch of tectonic study called thrust/contraction tectonics http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrust_tectonics The feature is a graben . A graben http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graben is type of fault feature where contraction( vs compression) pulls perpendicular to to the linear features and a block of landscape drops in relation to the surrounding. On each side of the graben will be steep sloped escarpments. A horst is the highland between two grabens that remained at the same elevation of may have been up-thrusted. In the example you posted the movement was a few inches/feet left and right of the escarpments( parallel lines) as well as a downward movement of the valley floor a distance I am unable to determine from the photo but could have been tens to hundreds of feet. This is not a slip strike fault where the opposite sides are displaced laterally. I've read recently about contraction of the lunar crust owing to overall cooling producing these features. On a lunar-wide basis when the formerly liquid mantle transitioned to a solid the sum total of all the nanometer sized compression of the space between molecules is seen on the surface as these grabens. The link above shows a substantial graben on the moon. To read about recent graben formation on earth you might google the 1811-1812 New Madrid Earthquare orhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Madrid_Seismic_Zone and the formation of the ReelFoot lake in western Tennessee. That area lies on a failed rift where North America almost split. I think the Reelfoot Lake basin came from a graben drop of only about 6 ft but left a lake of 30 square miles and about 3 ft /1meter deep. Elton - Original Message From: Jerry Flaherty g...@comcast.net To: Ron Baalke baa...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov; Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Fri, October 8, 2010 8:22:25 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: October 4-8, 2010 A little geologic help please. In the image Alba Mons Tectonics could someone elucidate and elaborate on the tectonic features shown. Are we looking at a rift at one or both parallel lines depicted and if so: are the lines related what is the direction of the movement what specific features demonstrate this movement any other features which demonstrate tectonic activity that I'm not seeing Thanks to any respondents in advance Jerry Flaherty -- From: Ron Baalke baa...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 5:55 PM To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: October 4-8, 2010 MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES October 4-8, 2010 o Wind Erosion (04 October 2010) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20101004a o Pavonis Mons (05 October 2010) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20101005a o Wind Texture (06 October 2010) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20101006a o Central Peak Crater (07 October 2010) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20101007a o Alba Mons Tectonics (08 October 2010) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20101008a All of the THEMIS images are archived here: http://themis.asu.edu/latest.html NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University, Tempe, in co.oration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: October 4-8, 2010
A little geologic help please. In the image Alba Mons Tectonics could someone elucidate and elaborate on the tectonic features shown. Are we looking at a rift at one or both parallel lines depicted and if so: are the lines related what is the direction of the movement what specific features demonstrate this movement any other features which demonstrate tectonic activity that I'm not seeing Thanks to any respondents in advance Jerry Flaherty -- From: Ron Baalke baa...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 5:55 PM To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: October 4-8, 2010 MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES October 4-8, 2010 o Wind Erosion (04 October 2010) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20101004a o Pavonis Mons (05 October 2010) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20101005a o Wind Texture (06 October 2010) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20101006a o Central Peak Crater (07 October 2010) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20101007a o Alba Mons Tectonics (08 October 2010) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20101008a All of the THEMIS images are archived here: http://themis.asu.edu/latest.html NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University, Tempe, in co.oration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 332gr WI find!!
Great news Joe! congratulations -- From: Joe Kerchner skyrockmeteori...@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 9:47 PM To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 332gr WI find!! The best part is that 2 of my kids were hunting with me and able to see me act like a little kid running in circles with my arm in the air. I was extremely excited. I really didnt think I was ever gonna end up finding a piece. Best Wishes, Joe Kerchner http://illinoismeteorites.com http://skyrockcafe.com - Original Message From: Joe Kerchner skyrockmeteori...@yahoo.com To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, April 26, 2010 8:08:02 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] 332gr WI find!! Listees, I found a 332 gram piece from the WI fall. Finally after 9 days in the field persistence paid off. I will post some pics on the skyrock cafe soon. Best Wishes, Joe Kerchner http://illinoismeteorites.com http://skyrockcafe.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] low-life on the meteorite list
That's the absolute truth Dirk. Ignorance is bliss. Don't let it trouble YOU. Jerry Flaherty -- From: starsinthed...@aol.com Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:30 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] low-life on the meteorite list Dirk, I visit your site regularly. It is 1st class! Most people quietly enjoy your efforts and you never hear from them. Don't let one crazed attention seeker spoil it for all of us who do appreciate your hard work! Tom Phillips In a message dated 4/22/2010 6:24:07 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, drtan...@yahoo.com writes: Dear List, Someone, perhaps on this list?, was lowlife enough to report my meteor/meteorite news blog as a spam blog? Funny? Perhaps they do not appreciate my many hours daily of constantly monitoring the internet for the purpose of helping for free, I provide educational timely related information and news about meteorites and ask nothing in return. Would this gutless scum have the fortitude and honesty to contact me directly or address the list IF I am out of line (on list or privately). Thank you. IF my site is not appreciated it can easily be permanently removed with a few strokes of my keyboard. Feedback appreciated. Sincerely, Dirk Ross...Tokyo Karma, Dude! V __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Earthquake SD
Hold on Mike USGS just reported a 6.9 Baja CA Mexico -- From: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 6:53 PM To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Earthquake SD Hi All, A few minutes ago we had an earthquake that was at least a 5.3 or 5.5 IN San Diego - if the epicenter was in LA or SF, this could be HUGE. Nothing on the news. Weird. Our dogs birds went nuts, I left the office to hold up a huge statue of St. Valantine over the fireplace. Went on so long I got sea sick! Biggest I can remember in well over a decade. Anyone know anything? (Met related - only if the earth breaks apart and becomes giant Asteroids!) Michael __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Observing Lunar Meteorite Impacts
Hi Sean, Perhaps the rarity of such documented strikes is best explained by the text The video plays in 7x slow motion; otherwise the explosion would be nearly invisible to the human eye. The duration of the fireball was only four-tenths of a second, says Cooke. Unless a very significant strike occurs [and it's being viewed] jerry -- From: Sean T. Murray s...@bellsouth.net Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:23 PM To: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com; Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Observing Lunar Meteorite Impacts http://www.fallingrocks.com/Collections/NWA4734.htm - Original Message - From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com To: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:10 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Observing Lunar Meteorite Impacts Just a quick question about something I'm studying... Is there a place online with data, photos, or video from lunar meteorite impacts? Or is it something that's so rare (like the recent colliding asteroids) that it's not been recorded much and what is recorded isn't online? ;) I'm not really interested in the seismic data per se, but any actual footage of meteoroid impacts, and perhaps photos of the craters that were created by the impacts? Is anyone doing this or compiling data besides NASA? I'm very interested in this part of the science! Something like this: http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/13jun_lunarsporadic.htm Are there more? Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - March 27, 2010
Gorgeous Michael, Who's the lucky caretaker?? -- From: Michael Johnson mich...@rocksfromspace.org Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 10:24 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - March 27,2010 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/March_27_2010.html --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] either the list is very slow or I've been black balled [or somehing?!??]
I'm only receiving a small # of emails in the last few days including List messages __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Is anyone out there?
Did the List drop off the planet? Jerry Flaherty __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorwrongs at the beach
Hi Mike, I suppose that that's like being aware of strange looking rocks on my daily dog walks. Hope springs eternal... no matter what the odds. jerry -- From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 11:34 AM To: Jerry Flaherty g...@comcast.net Cc: meteorite-list meteoritecentral meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Meteorwrongs at the beach Hi Jerry, Michael, and List, I'll break the silence with a goofy thought about meteorwrongs. Has anyone ever found meteor wrongs while treasurehunting at the beach or beachcombing? I've found several little iron slags which likely fell or broke off from ships and they become wave-tumbled and rounded. At first glance, they look like a small iron meteorite laying amongst the broken shells and bits thrown up on the shore. Some of them stick to a magnet and some don't. Some are heavy and obviously iron, while others are vesiculated and less dense. The lightweight vesiculated types don't stick to a magnet. My wife found something on Fort Desoto beach that looks like a teardrop-shaped indochinite. It's a dead ringer for one. I'll have to post a pic of it later. It is black, about 2 inches long, teardrop shaped, and it has faux flowlines on it leading away from the head and back towards the tail. But it's some kind of strange seed pod and not inorganic. I've also found a few small pebbles that have been wave tumbled and their coloration reminds me of a wind-polished stony chondrite with desert varnish. Of course, they don't stick to a magnet, and they are obviously terrestrial when examined with a loupe. One was so convincing that I windowed it just to be sure. I know my chances of finding a meteorite at the beach are not that good, but it's fun to see a meteorwrong while shelling. My mind is on shells, and I am looking for flashes of color or size profiles, and my eye will catch a meteorwrong instead. Best regards, MikeG Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lest You Forget
That should work. -- From: Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 11:02 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Lest You Forget This seems close to touching on my plan: drill holes in meteorite specimens and epoxy in place a plutonium pacemaker battery and voice chip which, every 5 second, declares aloud the name of the meteorite (and possibly fall date or peterological type-- I haven't worked out all the details yet.) I need to get to work on that patent application... __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Testing again, ...
WOO HOOO!!! -- From: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 6:02 PM To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Testing again, ... .. because I can hardly believe I got through to the List after several months. Sorry for double testing! Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Express: Phobos Flyby Images Released
Thank you Richard [et. Alan]. I'm happy to have some corroboration for my perceptions. Rubble pile to the rescue! Jerry -- From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 3:40 PM To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Jerry Flaherty g...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Express: Phobos Flyby Images Released A similar question came up on MPML about the grooves on Phobos. I thought this answer by Alan Harris might be of interest. -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 Alan Harris wrote: The strings or grooves have been seen since the time of the early Mariners and Vikings, they're just seen a little (lot) better now. They are not related to multiple impacts, in spite of some appearance of being strings of craters. They have been studied extensively over the years, with their nature not entirely resolved, but appear to be related in some way with the tidal environment of Phobos. If it were a fluid, it would simply come apart, since it is inside the classical Roche limit. However, even a rubble pile can persist there, held together only by the angle of repose limit of such material. When struck by an impact though, the vibration of the impact may allow material to slump, just as we sometimes see landslides triggered by earthquakes. This kind of slumping may result in crack or grooves running across the terrain. I co-authored a paper in Nature many years ago putting this hypothesis forward (Soter, S., Harris, A. 1977, Are striations on PHOBOS evidence for tidal stress? Nature 268, 421). This is not the last word on the matter (in fact, it was sort of the first word). There are a number of more recent publications on it. Alan __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The Sniper Mentality
I have sniped and won and sniped and lost but I have and will continue to snipe whether it's effective or not. It's just a strategy one of many. Jerry flaherty -- From: John Hendry p...@pict.co.uk Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 10:08 PM To: 'Richard Kowalski' damoc...@yahoo.com Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The Sniper Mentality Richard, I always use sniping services for bidding and my reasoning flawed or otherwise is as follows. There exists a category of bidders that do not bid their maximum and leave it at that, but like to continuously monitor the auction for the duration and outbid others when they lose highest bid. This sometimes reaches a frenzy of bid and counterbid in the last 30 minutes, and this behaviour seems more related to beating the competition than an incremental strategy that will cease as soon as they reach the maximum they have in mind. Here is somebody admitting this... http://ask.metafilter.com/47433/Psychology-of-Auctions So I don't really want to add to the liquidity in any auction with bidders like this that start out looking for a bargain and end up in a competitive fiscal pissing match. If I have a bid in well before auction end at my limit I risk provoking bidders like this to bid beyond what they originally had in mind as eBay will continuously outbid them to my maximum. If I snipe an auction with my maximum in the last 6 seconds I can rest assured that I haven't provoked any people to bid beyond their maximum and perhaps beyond mine. Regards, John -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Richard Kowalski Sent: March-17-10 4:58 PM To: meteorite list Subject: [meteorite-list] The Sniper Mentality This mentality, waiting until the last few seconds before bidding, is something I just don't get. Maybe someone can explain it to me. I bid for lots on ebay just like I do when I bid at a real auction. I set in my head what I believe the value of an item and what I have available in my budget to bid for that item. I then bid that much and no more. If I get the item, great. If not, someone wanted it more and we're willing to pay more for the item... While I will sometimes raise my ebay bid a little before the end of the auction, I really don't understand the idea of sitting there and in the last second or two, to try to jam in bids high enough to win the item. Do snipers really want the item or are they just trying to screw others out of the item? Are they just trying to get the item at a lower price, thinking that their competitors will just rebid again, upping the price? I see this on meteorite auctions every so often, but much more often on the Daguerreotypes I bid on. The reason I was reminded of it was a lot I just lost out on. There wasn't just one sniper, but two. The both bid at the exact same time, 2 seconds before the auction ended... As I said, it doesn't mater that I lost the lot. It went for more than I was willing to pay, so I wouldn't have rebid even if I could. Possibly someone can explain what is gained by bidding like this instead of just bidding what you think it's worth and letting it go for that... I'd really like to see ebay eliminate this foolery. It'd be pretty simple. Any bids that occur within one minute of the closing time of the auction automatically resets the end time by 10 minutes, or 30 minutes. The snipers games are eliminated and the dealers (and ebay) gets more profits because the auction remains open for the bidding to continue to higher levels. Just like in a real live auction. Thanks -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball over Tucson
That's a great way to keep track of the sky. Thanks Richard. -- From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 11:36 PM To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball over Tucson Carl Hergenrother, a fellow LPLer, has a pair of fireball cameras at his house. To see the videos of last night's fireball, a still captured by the MMT All-Sky camera, and a short report, see Carl's blog, The Transient Sky http://transientsky.wordpress.com/ -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Electric metallic blue inclusion inEnsisheim(the photo)
Wow! What's that about?!! -- From: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 12:25 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Electric metallic blue inclusion inEnsisheim(the photo) Here is the link cause the other one didnt work.Hope this one does. http://www.flickr.com/photos/48262...@n03/4437467502/sizes/l/ Shawn Alan __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Express: Phobos Flyby Images Released
Can someone explain the APPARENT layering in the Phobos pics?? Does this represent the rubble pile assemblage produced in he violence of the asteroid belt OR volcanic processes in a much larger original parent body? Jerry Flaherty -- From: Ron Baalke baa...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 7:01 PM To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Mars Express: Phobos Flyby Images Released http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/object/index.cfm?fobjectid=46710 Phobos flyby images European Space Agency 15 Mar 2010 Images from the recent flyby of Phobos, on 7 March 2010, are released today. The images show Mars' rocky moon in exquisite detail, with a resolution of just 4.4 metres per pixel. They show the proposed landing sites for the forthcoming Phobos-Grunt mission. (This article was originally posted on the ESA Space Science Portal http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEMK17CKP6G_index_0.html.) ESA's Mars Express spacecraft orbits the Red Planet in a highly elliptical, polar orbit that brings it close to Phobos every five months. It is the only spacecraft currently in orbit around Mars whose orbit reaches far enough from the planet to provide a close-up view of Phobos. Like our Moon, Phobos always shows the same side to the planet, so it is only by flying outside the orbit that it becomes possible to observe the far side. Mars Express did just this on 7, 10 and 13 March 2010. Mars Express also collected data with other instruments. Phobos is an irregular body measuring some 27 x 22 x 19 km. Its origin is debated. It appears to share many surface characteristics with the class of 'carbonaceous C-type' asteroids, which suggests it might have been captured from this population. However, it is difficult to explain either the capture mechanism or the subsequent evolution of the orbit into the equatorial plane of Mars. An alternative hypothesis is that it formed around Mars, and is therefore a remnant from the planetary formation period. In 2011 Russia will send a mission called Phobos-Grunt (meaning Phobos Soil) to land on the martian moon, collect a soil sample and return it to Earth for analysis. For operational and landing safety reasons, the proposed landing sites were selected on the far side of Phobos within the area 5°S-5°N, 230-235°E. This region was imaged by the HRSC high-resolution camera of Mars Express during the July-August 2008 flybys of Phobos. But new HRSC images showing the vicinity of the landing area under different conditions, such as better illumination from the Sun, remain highly valuable for mission planners. It is expected that Earth-based ESA stations will take part in controlling Phobos-Grunt, receiving telemetry and making trajectory measurements, including implementation of very long-baseline interferometry (VLBI). This cooperation is realized on the basis of the agreement on collaboration of the Russian Federal Space Agency and ESA in the framework of the 'Phobos-Grunt' and 'ExoMars' projects. Mars Express will continue to encounter Phobos until the end of March, when the moon will pass out of range. During the remaining flybys, HRSC and other instruments will continue to collect data. *More information* Univ.-Prof. Dr. Gerhard Neukum Freie Universitaet Berlin Mobile: +49 171-7647177 Tel: +49 30 838 70579; +49 30 838 70575 Email: gneukumzedat.fu-berlin.de Prof. Dr. Ralf Jaumann German Aerospace Center Phone: +49 30 67055-400 Fax: +49 30 67055-402 Email: ralf.jaumanndlr.de Olivier Witasse, ESA Mars Express project scientist ESTEC, The Netherlands Email: owitasserssd.esa.int Updates as the flybys take place will be posted on the Mars Express blog (see link in right-hand menu). *Note to editors* The High Resolution Stereo Camera (HRSC) experiment on the ESA Mars Express mission is led by the Principal Investigator (PI) Prof. Dr. Gerhard Neukum, who also designed the camera. The science team of the experiment consists of 45 Co-Investigators from 32 institutions and 10 nations. The camera was developed at the German Aerospace Center (DLR) under the leadership of the PI and built in cooperation with industrial partners (EADS Astrium, Lewicki Microelectronic GmbH and Jena-Optronik GmbH). HRSC is operated by the DLR Institute of Planetary Research, through ESA/ESOC. The science planning coordination between all instruments is performed at ESA/ESAC. The systematic processing of the HRSC image data is carried out at DLR. The scenes shown here were processed by the PI group at the Institute for Geosciences of the Freie Universitaet Berlin in cooperation with DLR, Institute of Planetary Research, Berlin. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Electric metallic blue inclusion in Ensisheim
Thanks Jim. -- From: meteorite...@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 12:50 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Electric metallic blue inclusion in Ensisheim On exposure to air, chalcopyrite oxidises to a variety of oxides, hydroxides and sulfates. Associated copper minerals include the sulfides bornite (Cu5FeS4), chalcocite (Cu2S), covellite (CuS), digenite (Cu9S5); carbonates such as malachite and azurite, and rarely oxides such as cuprite (Cu2O). Chalcopyrite is rarely found in association with native copper. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chalcopyrite Jim K __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - March 16, 2010
LOVE TO GET A SPECK OF THAT BABY! -- From: Michael Johnson mich...@rocksfromspace.org Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 8:35 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - March 16,2010 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/March_16_2010.html --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - March 16, 2010
Alright MIKE! -- From: Michael Johnson mich...@rocksfromspace.org Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 8:35 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - March 16,2010 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/March_16_2010.html --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Probable new impact crater
Thanks Graham. Always interested in new finds, especially of such significance. Jerry -- From: ensorama...@ntlworld.com Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 6:34 AM To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Probable new impact crater Just seen this...big one! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8526093.stm Graham E, UK __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] It's now an even sadderday...whathappened toethics??
Is that I/2 of each fish and if so are we talking head or hind quarters, dorsal or ventral, innards' or outers or half the catch? I'm just trying to clarify for the Agency which represents the Smithsonian in these matters Thank you -- From: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 3:13 PM To: almi...@localnet.com; Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] It's now an even sadderday...whathappenedtoethics?? No, But you will have to send half of the fish, if you catch any, to the Smithsonian... Sterling Webb -- - Original Message - From: almi...@localnet.com To: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] It's now an even sadder day...whathappened toethics?? Hi Martin and all, Next thing you know they will be putting a stop to fishing in this country. --AL Mitterling Quoting Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de: No, where did I? Jason. I like history. I like the Bulletins, I like modern natural science. I love meteorites. And, yes, I like my profession too, a profession, nobody has to be ashamed of. These are the four reasons, why I can't keep mum these years. Because I simply can't understand: Aren't they seeing, what they are doing? If only a single one could explain me, which the positive effects of the restrictive laws are or were in Australia, in Canada, in China, in Oman, in Algeria, in Argentina, in the Philippines, in Denmark, in Sudan, in Libya, in Namibia, in South Africa (?), now in USA, in Poland, in Russia (?), in Switzerland.. then I promise to be much quieter. Perhaps you can help me with that? So far I see only, that they risk all. Thank you Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Jason Utas [mailto:meteorite...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. März 2010 01:05 An: Martin Altmann; Meteorite-list Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] It's now an even sadder day...what happened toethics?? So, what you're saying, Martin, is that you advocate hunters lying about where they find meteorites so that they can keep them. Because that was his question. ...Interesting. Jason __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A Simple Question
True, internet piracy, the few celebrated in the media, attempt to WARN the public that the law has teeth. Hate to be the example -- From: Mark Bowling mina...@yahoo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 4:01 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] A Simple Question It is all a matter of enforcement - and they aren't enforcing it in every case (probably none of them, but the potential is there). As it is now, they can't keep the border sealed, so I doubt most feds in those districts care because they have bigger worries. They can't keep people from dumping trash and abandoning vehicles. So what is the harm of digging a few meteorites (especially when most enthusiasts are eager to help in the progress of meteoritics)? Happy hunting, Mark B. Vail, AZ - Original Message From: Greg Stanley stanleygr...@hotmail.com To: sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net; almi...@localnet.com; altm...@meteorite-martin.de Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, March 10, 2010 1:19:37 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] A Simple Question Now you're just being silly. I have a question to everyone who hunts Federal Lands: How many of you were FORCED... FORCED to give your meteorite(s) to the Smithsonian? Greg S. From: sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net To: almi...@localnet.com; altm...@meteorite-martin.de Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:13:38 -0600 CC: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] It's now an even sadder day...whathappened toethics?? No, But you will have to send half of the fish, if you catch any, to the Smithsonian... Sterling Webb -- - Original Message - From: To: Martin Altmann Cc: Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] It's now an even sadder day...whathappened toethics?? Hi Martin and all, Next thing you know they will be putting a stop to fishing in this country. --AL Mitterling Quoting Martin Altmann : No, where did I? Jason. I like history. I like the Bulletins, I like modern natural science. I love meteorites. And, yes, I like my profession too, a profession, nobody has to be ashamed of. These are the four reasons, why I can't keep mum these years. Because I simply can't understand: Aren't they seeing, what they are doing? If only a single one could explain me, which the positive effects of the restrictive laws are or were in Australia, in Canada, in China, in Oman, in Algeria, in Argentina, in the Philippines, in Denmark, in Sudan, in Libya, in Namibia, in South Africa (?), now in USA, in Poland, in Russia (?), in Switzerland.. then I promise to be much quieter. Perhaps you can help me with that? So far I see only, that they risk all. Thank you Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Jason Utas [mailto:meteorite...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. März 2010 01:05 An: Martin Altmann; Meteorite-list Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] It's now an even sadder day...what happened toethics?? So, what you're saying, Martin, is that you advocate hunters lying about where they find meteorites so that they can keep them. Because that was his question. ...Interesting. Jason __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469226/direct/01/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - March 8, 2010
Black Gold Richard, Black Gold! -- From: mich...@rocksfromspace.org Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 10:03 AM To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - March 8, 2010 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/March_8_2010.html --- Thumbed On My BlackBerry __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] And there's likely a crater in a crater in thecrater in the crater
Did Noah PETRO really have ANY choice in becoming Geo or Lunar crustal specialist? Was his path preordained?? Jerry Flaherty -- From: Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 8:49 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] And there's likely a crater in a crater in thecrater in the crater http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35728750/ns/technology_and_science-space/ Crater-in-a-crater may offer peek at moon guts Part of the Apollo Basin may expose a portion of the moon's deep crust A big crater inside a huge crater on the moon could offer a view of the lunar innards, scientists now say. Here's the setup: Shortly after the moon formed, it got whacked, big time. The result, an enormous crater called the South Pole-Aitken basin. It's almost 1,500 miles across and more than five miles deep. The impact punched into the layers of the lunar crust, scattering that material across the moon and into space. The tremendous heat of the impact also melted part of the floor of the crater, turning it into a sea of molten rock. Story continues below ?advertisement | your ad here This is the biggest, deepest crater on the moon - an abyss that could engulf the United States from the East Coast through Texas, exlained Noah Petro of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center. But wait, there was more. Asteroid bombardment over billions of years has left the lunar surface pockmarked with craters of all sizes, and covered with solidified lava, rubble, and dust. Glimpses of the original surface, or crust, are rare, and views into the deep crust are rarer still. Now, scientists say a crater on the edge of the South Pole-Aitken basin may provide just such a view. Called the Apollo Basin and formed by the later impact of a smaller asteroid, it is about 300 miles across. It's like going into your basement and digging a deeper hole, Petro said. We believe the central part of the Apollo Basin may expose a portion of the moon's lower crust, he said. If correct, this may be one of just a few places on the moon where we have a view into the deep lunar crust, because it's not covered by volcanic material as many other such deep areas are. Just as geologists can reconstruct Earth's history by analyzing a cross-section of rock layers exposed by a canyon or a road cut, we can begin to understand the early lunar history by studying what's being revealed in Apollo. Petro presented his research Thursday at the Lunar and Planetary Science meeting in Houston. It was done using the moon Mineralogy Mapper (M3), a NASA instrument on board India's Chandrayaan-1 lunar-orbiting spacecraft. Analysis of the light, or spectra, in images revealed that portions of the interior of Apollo have a similar composition to the impact melt in the South Pole-Aitken (SPA) basin. As you go deeper into the moon, the crust contains minerals have greater amounts of iron, the researchers explained in a statement. When the moon formed, it was largely molten. Minerals containing heavier elements, like iron, sank down toward the core, and minerals with lighter elements, like silicon, potassium, and sodium, floated to the top, forming the original lunar crust. The asteroid that created the SPA basin probably carved through the crust and perhaps into the upper mantle, Petro said. The impact melt that solidified to form the central floor of SPA would have been a mixture of all those layers. We expect to see that it has slightly more iron than the bottom of Apollo, since it went deeper into the crust. This is what we found with M3. However, we also see that this area in Apollo has more iron than the surrounding lunar highlands, indicating Apollo has uncovered a layer of the lunar crust between what is typically seen on the surface and that in the deepest craters like SPA. The lower crust exposed by Apollo survived the impact that created SPA probably because it was on the edge of SPA, several hundred miles from where the impact occurred, according to Petro. Both SPA and Apollo are estimated to be among the oldest lunar craters, based on the large number of smaller craters superimposed on top of them. As time passes, old craters get covered up with new ones, so a crater count provides a relative age; a crater riddled with additional craters is older than one that appears relatively clean, with few craters overlying it. As craters form, they break up the crust and form a regolith, a layer of broken up rock and dust, like a soil on the Earth. Although the Apollo basin is ancient and covered with regolith (what we call dirt on Earth), it still gives a useful view of the lower crust because the smaller meteorite impacts that create most of the regolith don't scatter material very far. Calculations of how the regolith forms indicate that at least 50 percent of the regolith is locally derived, said Petro. So although what
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites and Humidity: Some Questions
Interesting to a rather unsophisticated Dehumidifierer. I'll wait with bated breath for responses from the List Jerry Flaherty -- From: John Hendry p...@pict.co.uk Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 12:32 PM To: marco.langbr...@wanadoo.nl Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites and Humidity: Some Questions These may be daft ideas or already tried, but apart from dessicant removal of moisture what about another line of attack... (1) Removal of oxygen from the container... fill it with argon or nitrogen (2) Scavenge oxygen from the container. The food industry deploys scavenger sachets to remove oxygen from packaging and the most popular seem to be sachets of iron filings. Probably these will oxidise quicker than the meteorite given the larger surface area and absence of nickel. http://www.nitro-pak.com/product_info.php?products_id=366 (3) UV activated scavenging polymers exist but these seem designed for final depletion of an already low O2 atmosphere 2%. Might work in conjunction with (1). http://www.sealedair.com/products/food/os/oxygen_scavenging.html (4) Use zinc as a sacrificial scavenger. Perhaps pack a perforated non-conducting false bottom to the container with zinc wool thus isolating it from contact with the specimen. (5) Treat the specimen with vapour phase corrosion inhibiters. This will form a molecular film on the specimen so I'm not sure of whether there would be any alteration in the visual appearance of the specimen, or any other undesirable side effects. http://www.agmcontainer.com/vci/index.htm http://www.agmcontainer.com/vci/vci_faqs.html Regards, John -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Marco Langbroek Sent: March-06-10 3:11 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites and Humidity: Some Questions I store them primarily in Riker boxes and some in the jewel cases they arrived in. I live in north central Florida and except for my air conditioned home, I don't have the meteorites in any other climate controlled container or cabinet. I'm noticing a few of the irons (Miles especially) and one or two of the stony irons to appear a little rustier than when they arrived. I am actually not so fond of Riker mounts. Maybe it is our Dutch climate, but I noted specimens start to rust on the contact face between the Riker glass and the stone/iron: probably because moisture condenses there and/or gets trapped. This was while there was dessicant in (some) of the mounts. The problems vanished once I got myself a glass display cage. My meteorites are much more stable now. - Marco - Dr Marco Langbroek - SatTrackCam Leiden, the Netherlands. e-mail: sattrack...@wanadoo.nl Cospar 4353 (Leiden): 52.15412 N, 4.49081 E (WGS84), +0 m ASL Cospar 4354 (De Wilck): 52.11685 N, 4.56016 E (WGS84), -2 m ASL SatTrackCam: http://home.wanadoo.nl/marco.langbroek/satcam.html Station (b)log: http://sattrackcam.blogspot.com - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Way To Go Count!!!!!!!!!!
So wonderful Count. Get another, even bigger. Maybe a Lunar! Jerry Flaherty -- From: countde...@earthlink.net Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 3:34 PM To: Alexander Seidel g...@gmx.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Way To Go Count!! Alexander Seidel and List, Alexander asked that I share with him and the List the personal experience of having my first find be such a remarkable specimen. I am told by those who should know that this chondrite is the largest intact specimen so far found in Nevada. I would ask the List if this is so. Here's an account for those who wish to read about a newbie finding his first metorite. I began to study meteorites about a year ago as a diversion to take my mind off the two years of radiation and chemo treatments I had been undergoing for stage IV metastized cancer. I had responded well for a 72 year old and was in remission. I needed some new pursuit to get my mental and physical health back. Little did I know that I was about to catch another disease..and this one incurable...the obsession with meteorites. After purchasing some sixty different types and classifications, a stereo scope and a cabinet for comparison purposes ...and reading numerous posts on List and dozens of papers, attending Tucson... putting faces on all whom I had met online... I decided I was ready to go into the field. I was fortunate to have made acquaintance with Sonny Clary who lives nearby. He had become my mentor, given me samples and shown me some pointers on hunting by taking me on a short local trip to look at an area of interest. We spent maybe two hours in the field. Sonny moves quickly, his acute vision and experience letting him cover a lot of ground in very little time. I found I was more comfortable going my own way and not slowing him up. Neither he, nor I, found anything. I have four grandsons and I spent a few hours in some vacant fields in Las Vegas throwing down weathered samples and demonstrating to them the use of the cane and detector. Ten year old , Vincent, was fascinated. The others non-plussed. Night before last, May 2nd., Sonny called late and invited me to spend my first full day hunting an area he felt was promising several hours away. We met at his home and loaded up the gear, food and water. Brix, his super Alsatian, whined excitedly knowing we were going on a hunt. Sonny has trained Brix to the point that the dog will bring him rocks in the field. No meteorites yet...but it will happen. We arrived in the desert around nine o'clock. The temperature was a pleasant 67 degrees under clear skies and no wind. We saddled up and agreed as to which way each of us would go. Sonny took off to the left and I to the right. Within minutes we were out of sight of each other. We did have a means of communicating electronically in the event of an emergency. Both of us are Nevadans and have spent years in the desert hunting game, Sonny meteorites and in my case, before it became illegal, early man artifacts. After several hours with no luck, we met back at the truck and traveled two miles north on the valley floor. After another hour or two of nothing but meteor wrongs picked up from the desert pavement, Sonny decided to expand our search area again several miles west. This time we were on excellent ground. Flat, with very little organic growth and hardly any rocks at all. If they were here, the meteorites would stand out prominently. Again, Sonny strode off northwest with Brix roaming in front of him. Brix has received snake avoidance training and a good thing, because the rattlers, including the feared Mohave Green, are coming out of their dens this time of year to warm themselves, and shed their winter skin, making them ill tempered and aggressive. Sonny hunted with no assistance from cane, or detector. I used my staff with a circular neodymium magnet screwed on the end. I followed Sonny to the west, deciding to make the first leg of my search into the reduced visibility of the sun, so I could make the other two half mile legs with the sun at my side and rear to highlight the ground and prevent squinting. I have special tinted prescription glasses that provide some UV protection, reduce eye strain and sharpen the field of view. Sonny and Brix were quickly out of sight. About an hour and a half into things and while walking forward a few paces at a 45 degree angle to the left and then to the right, my scan picked up an irregular shape 50' to my right. It was so out of place as to shape and color that I knew immediately it was a possible. I turned and walked toward it. As I got within a few yards I could see that it had the familiar dark desert patination that I had studied on my Gold Basin samples. It was a three inch high tip sticking out of the ground like a triangular iceberg. I started to laugh out loud
Re: [meteorite-list] I hate Count (Guido) Diero ! : )
Holy Cow, so do I! -- From: wahlpe...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 9:30 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] I hate Count (Guido) Diero ! : ) Hi List, I bet you could call this beginners luck. I took Guido out meteorite hunting. I turned left and he turned right. To check out what he found scroll to the bottom of the meteorite hunts page. More to come later. http://www.nevadameteorites.com/nevadameteorites/METEORITE_HUNTS.html Sonny __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Hundreds of fish fall out of the sky
A Tornado over water is capable of accomplishing this. It's not unprecedented -- From: Ed Deckert edeck...@triad.rr.com Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 9:24 PM To: meteorh...@aol.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hundreds of fish fall out of the sky Sounds awful fishy to me. ;-) Ed - Original Message - From: meteorh...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 12:54 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Hundreds of fish fall out of the sky All, Residents stunned as hundreds of fish fall out of the sky over remote Australian desert town: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1254812/Hundreds-fish-fall -sky-remote-Australian-town-Lajamanu.html Steve __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447) Database version: 6.14470 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447) Database version: 6.14470 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Xynthia Troubles in Europe
That is exactly why I subscribe to the Gia Principle -- From: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 3:24 PM To: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com; Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Xynthia Troubles in Europe Is it just me, or does Mother Earth seem a little cranky lately? If you accept the hypothesis of Peter Ward's new book, The Medea Hypothesis, Mother Earth is not merely cranky, she wants to kill all her children, is inimical to all life, and will in a few hundred million years mange to kill it all off, leaving an unihabited and uninhabitable Earth. If true, that qualifies for more than cranky in my book. Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 11:18 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Xynthia Troubles in Europe Hi List, I was just reading about the brutal storm that ripped through Europe, and I hope our collector/dealer friends in the effected countries are OK. All eyes were on Chile, but Europe took a pounding also. Is it just me, or does Mother Earth seem a little cranky lately? Best regards, MikeG -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Xynthia Troubles in Europe
Whoops, did I misspell -- From: Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 9:16 PM To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Xynthia Troubles in Europe On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:57:24 -0500, you wrote: That is exactly why I subscribe to the Gia Principle The Gia principle? That younger Angelina Jolie would get nekkid in pretty much all of her movies? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0123865/ I, too, subscribe to that principle... __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Xynthia Troubles in Europe
Or misspeak?? -- From: Jerry Flaherty g...@comcast.net Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 10:33 PM To: cyna...@charter.net; Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Xynthia Troubles in Europe Whoops, did I misspell -- From: Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 9:16 PM To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Xynthia Troubles in Europe On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:57:24 -0500, you wrote: That is exactly why I subscribe to the Gia Principle The Gia principle? That younger Angelina Jolie would get nekkid in pretty much all of her movies? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0123865/ I, too, subscribe to that principle... __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Impacts and Australian AboriginalGeomythology
Paul, thank you for presenting this material. I know at least one List member will be familiar with this information, Mr. Grodine [forgive any misspelling]. Loving these dates, even the conservative ones. Such archeological and mythological investigations help to substantiate Hopes many of we contemporaries share that our distant ancestors still speak to us. It is consoling to realize [even though it would seem common sense] that our species has, for its entire existence struggled with universal questions. Jerry Flaherty -- From: Paul Heinrich oxytropidoce...@cox.net Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 12:36 AM To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Impacts and Australian AboriginalGeomythology 1. Hamacher, D.W., and P. P. Norris, 2009, Australian Aboriginal Geomythology: eyewitness accounts of cosmic impacts? Archaeoastronomy. vol. ??, No. ??, pp. ??-??. http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:kqaMcpBN-zEJ:www.warawara.mq.edu.au/aboriginal_astronomy/literature/Aboriginal_Cosmic_Impacts.pdf+Australian+Aboriginal+Geomythology:+eyewitness+accounts+of+cosmic+impacts%3Fcd=2hl=enct=clnkgl=us Hamacher, D. W, 2009, Meteorite Falls and Cosmic Impacts in Australian Aboriginal Mythology. 72nd Annual Meeting of the Meteoritical Society, held July 13-18, 2009 in Nancy, France. Published in Meteoritics and Planetary Science Supplement., p.5005 http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/metsoc2009/pdf/5005.pdf http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2009M%26PSA..72.5005H Duane Willis Hamacher II CURRICULUM VITAE http://www.warawara.mq.edu.au/pdf/duane_cv.pdf http://mq.academia.edu/DuaneHamacher This Vitae lists some other impact related papers: Hamacher, D.W., and P. P. Norris, 2010, “Falling Star at Puka”: using Aboriginal oral traditions to locate undiscovered meteorite falls and impact craters. In Ilgarijiri – things belonging to the sky, edited by Ray Norris. Proceedings of the AIATSIS symposium on Australian Indigenous Astronomy, 27 November 2009, Canberra, Australia, Aboriginal Studies Press. Hamacher, D.W., C. O’Neill, A. Buchel, and T. R. Britton, 2010, A newly discovered meteorite crater in Palm Valley, Central Australia. Meteoritics Planetary Science - in preparation 2. Emu Dreaming! - Aboriginal Astronomy http://www.warawara.mq.edu.au/aboriginal_astronomy/ Literature on Aboriginal Astonomy Aboriginal Cultures http://www.warawara.mq.edu.au/aboriginal_astronomy/literature.php This page includes: Bevan, A., and P. Bindon, 1996, Australian Aborigines and Meteorites. Records of the Western Australian Museum. vol. 18, pp. 93-101. Also, there is a full length web page about the proposed Palm Valley impact crater within the Finke Gorge National Park in the Northern Territory, Australia. It is “Google, Dreaming lead to crater discovery” – the REAL story... from the horse’s mouth at: http://www.warawara.mq.edu.au/aboriginal_astronomy/Puka.htm 3. Ray Norris's Publications (complete list) http://www.atnf.csiro.au/people/rnorris/papers/papers.htm Norris, R. P., and D. W. Hamacher, 2009, The Astronomy of Aboriginal Australia. in The Role of Astronomy in Society and Culture Proceedings, D. Valls-Gabaud and A. Boksenberg, eds., pp. 10-17. IAU Symposium No. 260, 2009 http://www.warawara.mq.edu.au/aboriginal_astronomy/literature/Norris_Hamacher_2009.pdf 4. Geomythology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_and_geology Yours, Paul H. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Carancas
The Journal of the Meteoritical Societyl, December 2009, Vol. 44, #12 has a very thorough write up of the Carancas Event of Sept. 2007 for those who have access to it. Jerry Flaherty __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - February11, 2010
The Kid has a talent. Sign him up! -- From: Linton Rohr linton...@earthlink.net Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 3:33 PM To: Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - February11, 2010 Very cool, Greg! That would have amazing even without finding any NEO's, but to find three? Wow! Glad you got the chance to go. Kudos to Richard! By the way, are any of these heading for my back yard? g Linton http://www.rocksfromspace.org/February_11_2010.html __ Thumbed On My BlackBerry __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - January 29, 2010
Outstanding! -- From: Michael Johnson mich...@rocksfromspace.org Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 9:13 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - January 29,2010 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/January_29_2010.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] some meteorite words
meteoriteonly- NO OT on Met list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] An offer for meteorite microimaging to dealers (Nothin section required)
DOUBLE WOW Tom, I never thought you'd be able to top your thin section collection but I'm wrong again Jerry -- From: starsandsco...@aol.com Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 4:56 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] An offer for meteorite microimaging to dealers (Nothin section required) Hi list, For the last couple years I have been working nearly exclusively on thin sections in cross polarized light. This was due, only partly, to my failure to come up with a satisfactory digital photo adapter on my Neophot but most significantly to Jeff Hodges fantastic thin section library. He has very generously loaned me thin sections for years. I am now back on track with the Neophot (It is a large incident (reflected) light inverted microscope). In fact, I just purchased another one. It has on it some very special parts such as a polarized light illuminator with a sub parallel compensator, Bertrand lens and micro polarizing adjustments. I have looked for years for these parts. They had seemed to be made out of pure unobtaineum. For an example of the type of images I will be producing please look at my latest post to my micrograph gallery on JaH 073. Unlike cross polarized transmitted light thin section images, these images are true color. As I like to say Just what it looks like way up close. http://www.meteorite.com/meteorite-gallery/articles/jah_073/ Please keep in mind, I am not vested in my JaH 073 observations. They are just a guess. I am open to other interpretations of the images. It is mostly just me having fun with micrographs. I am looking for interesting classified material to image. (I have boxes of unclassified NWA so I don't need that kind of stuff) I do not need a thin section but a sample of roughly 1 gram or larger that I am free to polish. I finish with a 1/4 micron diamond slurry to get clear shots at magnifications up to 1600 X. I don't want to do any cutting. Things happen when cutting. Things like falling apart material and unaccounted for missing crumbs! I am just not set up for that. I will safely return the sample with a CD of images that you and I are free to use. You can use the images to promote your material, heck, you can make Tee shirts and calendars if you like. In fact, I want you to use them!!! All I ask is that my name is attached to all products or postings, and that I am free to use or pass along the images as well. The operative word is return, so I am looking for the GOOD STUFF. I am shooting at a resolution of 12 mp so they should be up to any application you might have in mind. Ideally, I would also like to partner in an article where I provide the images and you do the rest! Basically, you write an article and I will give you some additional images to add to the mix. Even if we produce an article and it is not placed you could use it in your promotion of the material for sale and I will post it to my gallery. Please email me with any ideas. Tom Phillips __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] I just can't help myself
Anger is a medieval German word which means place, covered by grass or, more concrete: I'm sorry Mathias, I just couldn't resist. CONTEXT is a b when it isn't there. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger + Gero Kurat (1938-2009)
Oh, please disregard my previous post. I began reading emails from the most recent. I too am deeply saddened by this news. Christian's contributions to the List were always appreciated. -- From: Jörn Koblitz kobl...@microfab.de Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 7:20 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger + Gero Kurat (1938-2009) I am deeply saddened to learn about the death of Christian, a fellow collector and friend for so many many years. Sadly, this is not the only terrible news from Austria, recently: Prof. Gero Kurat, the former curator of the meteorite collection at the Natural History Museum in Vienna, Austria, and past president of the Meteoritical Society died on November 27, 2009, at the age of only 71. http://www.meteoriticalsociety.org/news_display.cfm?code=news_introitemID=51CFID=3978395CFTOKEN=27350152 http://solarsystem.wustl.edu/2009/12/01/gerot-kurat/ Both great individuals will truly be missed! My sincere condolences to his families and friends. Joern Koblitz -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]im Auftrag von impact...@aol.com Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. Januar 2010 23:57 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: h63str...@aol.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger Hello everybody, I just received this email (below) from Hanno, with very sad news. For all of you who did not know Christian Anger, he was an expert meteorite collector and a very friendly guy. In his real life he was an Engineer, and lived near Vienna, Austria. He leaves behind an (ex)wife and two little girls. And I still remember when we were waltzing together in Ensisheim, in much happier times. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) Hello Anne, today I received an email from Harald Stehlik, that our good friend Christian Anger had on 14.dec 2009 a very heavy car accident and he died. I am very shocked and sad, because Christian was not only a collector but a friend. Everybody know how much fun we had when we were togheter. We had also other private contact and were real friends. At first he told me that he cannot come to the Munich show, because he had so many private problems in his mind. Then he called me thursday evening when I was in Munich that he decided to come. So he was with us friday evening at the Fliegerbräu and stayed in Munich till sunday afternoon. He helped me to bring some of my material back into the car sunday afternoon. This was the last time I saw him. True friendship never ends.. Hanno Strufe __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Question Regarding Lunars
Thanks for the great video Carl. Jerry -- From: Carl 's carloselgua...@hotmail.com Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 4:30 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Question Regarding Lunars Hi Greg and All, Here's an interesting video from the Kaguya lunar spacecraft. The red soil on the moon and Norbert's explanation is probably related somewhat although produced separately. Around the 21:20 mark, check out the red soil on the moon. Nice footage of the moon and of the astronauts frolicking about. Jim K.brought this video to the attention of SkyrockCafe: http://www.slashcontrol.com/free-tv-shows/expedition-week/3669310949-direct-from-the-moon Also, at around the 41:00 mark, the astronauts are kicking around a very large rock! Love this video. Carl Greg wrote: I really appreciate the detailed responses. That's what I suspected. Perhaps the soils in Oman contain more iron based sediment, and the strewn fields there are older. I always assumed that the iron within meteorites caused the oxidation, but now it's clear that once any rock (meteorite) falls to earth,... _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Cool Iron MeteorWRONG
WOW, you could have fooled me! -- From: Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 7:21 PM To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Cool Iron MeteorWRONG Hi all, This was sent to me as an iron Meteorite. It has the coolest shape with a hole right through the center! http://www.mr-meteorite.net/meteoriteidvideos.htm -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Molten Core? Solid Core? Rocky Core?BlueCheese!?
A so -- From: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:44 AM To: Jerry Flaherty g...@comcast.net; Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Molten Core? Solid Core? Rocky Core?BlueCheese!? Here's your flowing turbulence, Jerry! http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/12/091223222743.htm Sterling K. Webb --- - Original Message - From: Jerry Flaherty g...@comcast.net To: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Molten Core? Solid Core? Rocky Core?BlueCheese!? Doesn't the magnetic field necessitate Flowing or Turbulence within the core, a result of the Earth's differential rotation? -- From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 11:09 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Molten Core? Solid Core? Rocky Core? BlueCheese!? Solid Iron Inner Core. Liquid Iron Outer Core. Wiki is a good read. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structure_of_the_Earth -- Richard Kowalski http://fullmoonphotography.net IMCA #1081 --- On Tue, 12/29/09, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Molten Core? Solid Core? Rocky Core? Blue Cheese!? To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 9:02 PM OK, A friend and I were watching a show on Discovery or NatGeo a couple months back. The program I think was about asteroids, and impacts, perhaps even How the Earth Was Made or another program. Don't really remember The point is during the show they said very matter-of-factly on three separate occasions that the Earth's core was made of three different materials. One scientist (or narrator I don't remember) said Earth had a rocky core. Which we laughed at of course because we all know that the Earth's core is Solid iron right? Then another scientist confirmed our knowledge and stated what we already knew. The Earth core is made of SOLID iron. Of course we said! Now that's right... Then not 10 minutes more into the show another person stated that the Earth had a molten iron core. To make matters even more confusing the show went on to say that the SOLID iron core was surrounded by molten iron with lighter rocky materials floating out beyond that OK... sounded good at the time, but My question is simple. Which is it? Molten? Solid Iron? or Solid iron surrounded by molten iron. And if it's the latter how is this possible? Wouldn't the solid iron core NOT be solid if it were sitting in the middle of a molten lake of iron? Does the core cool faster than the surrounding material, and if so how is this possible considering this the logic that says an object cools from the outside in. Now, I'd like to stop there but I just read an interesting article on National Geographic's website titled North Magnetic Pole Moving East Due to Core Flux here: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/12/091224-north-pole-magnetic-russia-earth-core.html At the end of the article it flatly states: ...Wandering Pole - Geologists think Earth has a magnetic field because the core is made up of a solid iron center surrounded by rapidly spinning liquid metal. This creates a dynamo that drives our magnetic field. Scientists had long suspected that, since the molten core is constantly moving, changes in its magnetism might be affecting the surface location of magnetic north I don't know about you, but this confuses me just a little bit... Can anyone please clear this up for me? And perhaps the rest of the world? ;) Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Solar-Radiation Heating Effects on 3200 Phaethon
Katsu, Thank you for the paper. The Abstract alone explains how its possible for different parts of an asteroid to undergo substantially different metamorphosis, providing substantially different meteoroids/meteorites and the variety in finds, in some meteorites. Jerry Flaherty -- From: Katsu OHTSUKA ohts...@jb3.so-net.ne.jp Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 11:07 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Solar-Radiation Heating Effects on 3200 Phaethon Hello list, My paper entitled Solar-Radiation Heating Effects on 3200 Phaethon was finally published in the latest issue of PASJ, as follows, http://pasj.asj.or.jp/v61/n6/610621/610621.pdf, of which PDF file is freely downloadable now. Katsu OHTSUKA __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Molten Core? Solid Core? Rocky Core? BlueCheese!?
Doesn't the magnetic field necessitate Flowing or Turbulence within the core, a result of the Earth's differential rotation? -- From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 11:09 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Molten Core? Solid Core? Rocky Core? BlueCheese!? Solid Iron Inner Core. Liquid Iron Outer Core. Wiki is a good read. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structure_of_the_Earth -- Richard Kowalski http://fullmoonphotography.net IMCA #1081 --- On Tue, 12/29/09, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Molten Core? Solid Core? Rocky Core? Blue Cheese!? To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 9:02 PM OK, A friend and I were watching a show on Discovery or NatGeo a couple months back. The program I think was about asteroids, and impacts, perhaps even How the Earth Was Made or another program. Don't really remember The point is during the show they said very matter-of-factly on three separate occasions that the Earth's core was made of three different materials. One scientist (or narrator I don't remember) said Earth had a rocky core. Which we laughed at of course because we all know that the Earth's core is Solid iron right? Then another scientist confirmed our knowledge and stated what we already knew. The Earth core is made of SOLID iron. Of course we said! Now that's right... Then not 10 minutes more into the show another person stated that the Earth had a molten iron core. To make matters even more confusing the show went on to say that the SOLID iron core was surrounded by molten iron with lighter rocky materials floating out beyond that OK... sounded good at the time, but My question is simple. Which is it? Molten? Solid Iron? or Solid iron surrounded by molten iron. And if it's the latter how is this possible? Wouldn't the solid iron core NOT be solid if it were sitting in the middle of a molten lake of iron? Does the core cool faster than the surrounding material, and if so how is this possible considering this the logic that says an object cools from the outside in. Now, I'd like to stop there but I just read an interesting article on National Geographic's website titled North Magnetic Pole Moving East Due to Core Flux here: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/12/091224-north-pole-magnetic-russia-earth-core.html At the end of the article it flatly states: ...Wandering Pole - Geologists think Earth has a magnetic field because the core is made up of a solid iron center surrounded by rapidly spinning liquid metal. This creates a dynamo that drives our magnetic field. Scientists had long suspected that, since the molten core is constantly moving, changes in its magnetism might be affecting the surface location of magnetic north I don't know about you, but this confuses me just a little bit... Can anyone please clear this up for me? And perhaps the rest of the world? ;) Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Molten Core? Solid Core? Rocky Core?BlueCheese!?
I didn't see the show you're describing but perhaps they were playing Devil's advocate [excuse the biblical reference] to highlight a salient point. -- From: Jerry Flaherty g...@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 11:27 PM To: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Molten Core? Solid Core? Rocky Core?BlueCheese!? Doesn't the magnetic field necessitate Flowing or Turbulence within the core, a result of the Earth's differential rotation? -- From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 11:09 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Molten Core? Solid Core? Rocky Core? BlueCheese!? Solid Iron Inner Core. Liquid Iron Outer Core. Wiki is a good read. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structure_of_the_Earth -- Richard Kowalski http://fullmoonphotography.net IMCA #1081 --- On Tue, 12/29/09, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Molten Core? Solid Core? Rocky Core? Blue Cheese!? To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 9:02 PM OK, A friend and I were watching a show on Discovery or NatGeo a couple months back. The program I think was about asteroids, and impacts, perhaps even How the Earth Was Made or another program. Don't really remember The point is during the show they said very matter-of-factly on three separate occasions that the Earth's core was made of three different materials. One scientist (or narrator I don't remember) said Earth had a rocky core. Which we laughed at of course because we all know that the Earth's core is Solid iron right? Then another scientist confirmed our knowledge and stated what we already knew. The Earth core is made of SOLID iron. Of course we said! Now that's right... Then not 10 minutes more into the show another person stated that the Earth had a molten iron core. To make matters even more confusing the show went on to say that the SOLID iron core was surrounded by molten iron with lighter rocky materials floating out beyond that OK... sounded good at the time, but My question is simple. Which is it? Molten? Solid Iron? or Solid iron surrounded by molten iron. And if it's the latter how is this possible? Wouldn't the solid iron core NOT be solid if it were sitting in the middle of a molten lake of iron? Does the core cool faster than the surrounding material, and if so how is this possible considering this the logic that says an object cools from the outside in. Now, I'd like to stop there but I just read an interesting article on National Geographic's website titled North Magnetic Pole Moving East Due to Core Flux here: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/12/091224-north-pole-magnetic-russia-earth-core.html At the end of the article it flatly states: ...Wandering Pole - Geologists think Earth has a magnetic field because the core is made up of a solid iron center surrounded by rapidly spinning liquid metal. This creates a dynamo that drives our magnetic field. Scientists had long suspected that, since the molten core is constantly moving, changes in its magnetism might be affecting the surface location of magnetic north I don't know about you, but this confuses me just a little bit... Can anyone please clear this up for me? And perhaps the rest of the world? ;) Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] need Steve A's GIANT MAGNET
geoarchaeologists call site formation processes If he can find Brenham send him to China!!! __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Joe's K's Famous Wrong
Got my sample today. Excellent example. Thanks Joe. Jerry Flaherty __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Holiday Greeting (politically correct)
LOL Thanks Bill, And may I humbly, add all the blessings of the season, love, joy and peace Jerry Flaherty -- From: bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 5:29 PM To: cyna...@charter.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Holiday Greeting (politically correct) Please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit, my best wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low stress, non-addictive, gender neutral, celebration of the winter solstice holiday, practiced within the most enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice, or secular practices of your choice, with respect for the religious/secular persuasions and/or traditions of others, or their choice not to practice religious or secular traditions at all and a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling and medically uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally accepted calendar year 2000, but not without due respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures whose contributions to society have helped make America great (not to imply that America is necessarily greater than any other country or is the only AMERICA in the western hemisphere), and without regard to the race, creed, color, age, physical disability, religious faith, choice of computer platform, or sexual preference of the wishee. Legal Disclaimer: By accepting this agreement, you are accepting these terms. This greeting is subject to clarification or withdrawal. It is freely transferable with no alteration to the original greeting. It implies no promise by the wisher to actually implement any of the wishes for her/himself or others, and is void where prohibited by law, and is revocable at the sole discretion of the wisher. This wish is warranted to perform as expected within the usual application of good tidings for a period of one year, or until the issuance of a subsequent holiday greeting, whichever comes first, and warranty is limited to replacement of this wish or issuance of a new wish at the sole discretion of the wisher. Sincerely, (Name withheld for legal, social and cultural considerations.) _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Engineering Christmas
However, since Santa does not visit children of Muslim, Hindu, Jewish or Buddhist religions H, In light of the current state of global tensions, we may have to revise Santa's preferential circuit. We ought to form a committee! -- From: Dark Matter freequa...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 7:27 PM To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Engineering Christmas Hi All, Once again, it seems it has befallen upon me uphold the job of official Santa Physics story reposter. So, in the true spirit of the season, here it is yet again. And as always, I have not checked the math. Enjoy. Martin Engineering Christmas: Some points of contention. There are approximately two billion children (persons under 18) in the world. However, since Santa does not visit children of Muslim, Hindu, Jewish or Buddhist religions, this reduces the workload for Christmas night to 15% of the total, or 378 million (according to the Population Reference Bureau). At an average (census) rate of 3.5 children per household, that comes to 108 million homes, presuming that there is at least one good child in each dwelling. Santa has about 31 hours of Christmas to work with thanks to the different time zones and the rotation of the earth, assuming he travels east to west which seems logical. This works out to 967.7 visits per second. This is to say that for each Christian household with a good child, Santa has about 1/1000th of a second to park the sleigh, hop out, jump down the chimney, fill the stockings, distribute the remaining presents under the tree, eat whatever snacks have been left for him, get back up the chimney, jump into the sleigh and get on to the next house. Assuming that each of these 108 million stops is evenly distributed around the earth (which of course, we know to be false, but will accept for the purpose of our calculations), we are now talking about 0.78 miles per household; a total trip of 75.5 million miles, not counting bathroom stops or other breaks. This requires that Santa's sleigh moves at 650 miles per second--3000 times the speed of sound. For purposes of comparison, the fastest man-made vehicle, the Ulysses space probe, moves at a poky 27.4 miles per second, and conventional reindeer can run at best 30 miles per hour. The payload of the sleigh adds another interesting element. Assuming that each child gets nothing more than a medium sized Lego set (two pounds), the sleigh is carrying over 500,000 tons, not counting Santa himself. On land a conventional reindeer can pull about 300 pounds. Even granting that the flying reindeer could pull ten times the normal amount, the job just cannot be done with eight or nine of them-- Santa would need 360,000 reindeer! This increases the payload, not counting the weight of the sleigh, another 54,000 tons or roughly seven times the weight of the Queen Elizabeth (the ship, not the monarch). 4.600,000 tons traveling at 650 miles per second creates enormous air resistance-- this would heat up the reindeer in the same fashion as spacecraft re-entering the earth's atmosphere (which may explain Rudolph's red nose). The lead pair of reindeer would absorb 14.3 quintillion joules of energy per second. In short, they would instantaneously vaporize exposing the reindeer behind them to the same friction and also creating deafening sonic booms in their wake. The entire reindeer team would vanish within 4.26 thousandths of a second, or right about the time Santa reached the fifth house on his trip. Not that it matters, however since Santa, as a result of accelerating from a dead stop to 650 miles per second in .001 seconds, would be subjected to centrifugal forces of 17,500 Gs. A 250 pound Santa (which seems ludicrously slim) would be pinned to the back of the sleigh by 4,315,015 pounds of force, instantly crushing his bones and organs and reducing him to a quivering red-hot blob of goo. And yet, he returns year after year. Therefore, the rules of physics obviously don't apply to Santa and his yearly mission. Speaking as an engineer, this guy must know something about relativity that we have yet to discover. HO, HO, OC. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Meteorite Pendant Neckless ( Christmas Gift )
Dawn, my wife, opened Tim's Meteorite Pendant Necklace today, on her 50th birthday. I watched her eyes which opened wide and sparkled as she revealed the contents of the package. She rushed to a mirror to don it and extolled the ingenious magnetic fastening system which adapts the the wearer's pleasure. I don't know which one of us enjoyed the event more, her the recipient or me the spectator. Thank you Tim for the treasure that only a shooting star, in this case from The Field of Heaven can provide. It's not the first meteorite jewelry she's enjoyed but it most certainly is the finest fashioned. Jerry Flaherty -- From: Timothy Heitz midw...@meteorman.org Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 6:41 PM To: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] AD - Meteorite Pendant Neckless ( Christmas Gift ) Hello List, I have some Meteorite Pendants on E-Bay onl;y $23.99 free shipping in the U.S. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260520590810 Thank You, Tim Heitz MIDWEST METEORITES - http://www.meteorman.org/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] somewhat OT but very cool
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[meteorite-list] geminids
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Re: [meteorite-list] Amazing aerieal spiral phenomenon over Norway, BBC Video link
THE RUSSIAN'S DID IT -- From: Charles Viau cv...@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:45 AM To: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; m...@mhmeteorites.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Amazing aerieal spiral phenomenon over Norway,BBC Video link Really incredible. I have never seen aerial phenomenon like this. What could possibly cause a moving spiral high in the atmosphere? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8404991.stm?ls Regards, CharlyV __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fw: Spaceweather sighting - off topic
-- TOLD YOU IT WAS A UFO!! From: Jerry Flaherty g...@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:40 PM To: meteoritefin...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Spaceweather sighting - off topic Wow that's weird. definitely UFO's -- From: meteoritefin...@yahoo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 3:55 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Spaceweather sighting - off topic Hello List. Off topic, but hopefully of interest. See below the link to the Spaceweather posting for today. Check out the pretty weird visual sighting over Norway, etc. www.spaceweather.com/ Best, Robert Woolard __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fw: Amazing aerieal spiral phenomenon over Norway, BBC Video link
-- From: Jerry Flaherty g...@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:30 AM To: Charles Viau cv...@comcast.net; meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; m...@mhmeteorites.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Amazing aerieal spiral phenomenon over Norway,BBC Video link THE RUSSIAN'S DID IT -- From: Charles Viau cv...@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:45 AM To: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; m...@mhmeteorites.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Amazing aerieal spiral phenomenon over Norway,BBC Video link Really incredible. I have never seen aerial phenomenon like this. What could possibly cause a moving spiral high in the atmosphere? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8404991.stm?ls Regards, CharlyV __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Libyan (looks like a) crater
Sure does -- From: Randy Korotev koro...@wustl.edu Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:21 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Libyan (looks like a) crater Dear List: I received this intriguing e-mail today from someone I don't know. = Dear Randy, I am a geophysicist and had a recent trip on Libyan desert for campaign of geophysical investigations, mostly GPR and Geoelectric tomography. Going back to the camp I found at sunset -due to low angle light- something strange on the flat desert surface. I found a perfect circular crater with melt sand scattered around . sand grains are melt and embedding larger quartz grains. In my opinion that's a impact crater and sand is melt because of the heat wave. Larger grains had no time to melt . That melt rock has a black matrix-nothing like that in the area, also there are no similar structures in that flat, flat flat desrt surface, sand is only silica and quartz grain and no dark matrix can be seen for kilometers. I made a few geophysics on the spot and found big electric anomalies and very anomalous readings of Geoelectric values. I took a few samples of melt rock -very heavy really. I am posting a few photos of the crater. I have another stone found at 2500 m on the bed of a melt glacier, same story, that's not a stone of the area, it is like a fuse, heavy and black inside with a very aerodynamic shape, I will mail you a photo ( after reading once more your recommendations) if interested . for sure not a human artifact or an original stone of the area. Sorry to disturb, ... = I put the photos here: http://meteorites.wustl.edu/meteorwrongs/libyan_crater.htm The round thing in the desert looks something like a crater. Maybe it's a bomb crater. Maybe it's a meteorite impact crater. The rock doesn't look like samples of Libyan desert glass that I've seen. I don't know the LDG story well. Has there ever been a crater associated with the glass? Randy Korotev Saint Louis, MO koro...@wustl.edu __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Spaceweather sighting - off topic
Wow that's weird. definitely UFO's -- From: meteoritefin...@yahoo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 3:55 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Spaceweather sighting - off topic Hello List. Off topic, but hopefully of interest. See below the link to the Spaceweather posting for today. Check out the pretty weird visual sighting over Norway, etc. www.spaceweather.com/ Best, Robert Woolard __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] reverse electolysis
Thanks to all who responded to my request. I got some great suggestions and detailed instructions. The List at its best. Jerry Flaherty __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] reverse electrolysis
List, I have a large Campo del Cielo on which I'd like to try reverse electrolysis. It's one hurtin piece that I'd be willing to sacrifice if things don't go well, so I'd appreciate a repeat of the directions Thanks in advance Jerry Flaherty __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Naked Science: Countdown to Impact
I too think, an incredible feat! -- From: Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 2:42 PM To: Richard Kowalski kowal...@lpl.arizona.edu; MPML m...@yahoogroups.com; Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Naked Science: Countdown to Impact Hi Richard, Thank you for the heads-up reminder of the show. I still think 2008 TC3/Almahata Sitta is such an amazing story from discovery (you), identification as an Earth impactor and eventual meteorite recover. Too cool! Congratulations once again to you and all involved! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) gmh...@htn.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Richard Kowalski kowal...@lpl.arizona.edu To: MPML m...@yahoogroups.com; Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 2:07 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Naked Science: Countdown to Impact Sorry for a little self promotion, but a reminder to those of you in the US that Naked Science: Countdown to Impact will premier on the National Geographic Channel Thursday night. This episode is about the discovery of 2008 TC3, the identification of it being an Earth impactor and the recovery and study of the Almahata Sitta meteorites that resulted. The program's website: http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/series/naked-science/4652/Overview now has more information, along with video blogs from the production crew and some still images from the show. -- Richard Kowalski Catalina Sky Survey Lunar and Planetary Laboratory University of Arizona Tucson, AZ 85721 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sorry, only meteors, no meteorites
Very nice Maurizio, esp. the Geminids burning right thru the clouds. I didn't notice a time of day on those?? -- From: Maurizio Eltri maurizio.el...@libero.it Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 12:36 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Sorry, only meteors, no meteorites Perseids meteor shower 2005: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb3EtMSOMts Geminids meteor shower 2005: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xAj8FWo7NI Regards to all Maurizio Eltri __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - November 20, 2009
Cool, that's a Grebe -- From: Michael Johnson mich...@rocksfromspace.org Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 10:03 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - November 20,2009 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/November_20_2009.html __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons
Best examples I've yet to see. Thanks for the tutorial -- From: Dark Matter freequa...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 1:05 PM To: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons Hi Eric, Here are a few closeup pics of fusion crust on the iron named Bogou: http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2009/august/Accretion_Desk.htm Best, Martin H. On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: Hi all, With all the talk about melting and twisting of metal on the Sikhote Alin meteorite it got me to wondering what very fresh fusion crust looks like on an iron meteorite. I mean like the day it fell fresh, and not like the Sikhote. Everyone here pretty much knows what fresh crust looks like on an ordinary chondrite, but are there any example photos of freshly fallen iron meteorites with very fresh fusion crust beside the Sikhote Alin meteorite? Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons
yes indeedy -- From: Michael Johnson mich...@rocksfromspace.org Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 12:59 PM To: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons Good example of S-A: http://www.flickr.com/photos/30591...@n04/2983976145/sizes/o/ Michael Johnson http://www.rocksfromspace.org - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 12:34:47 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons Fat, dull, rough, dark-grey to dark-brown. Boguslavka: http://www.fmm.ru/metpictures/bogus.jpg Cabin Creek http://www.austromet.com/Museum_24082005_07.jpg Treysa http://www.gi-po.de/meteorit_treysa_1g.jpg Sikhote-Alin http://www.spacerocksinc.com/Dec1.html and so on. Cheers, Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Meteorites USA Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. November 2009 18:18 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons Hi all, With all the talk about melting and twisting of metal on the Sikhote Alin meteorite it got me to wondering what very fresh fusion crust looks like on an iron meteorite. I mean like the day it fell fresh, and not like the Sikhote. Everyone here pretty much knows what fresh crust looks like on an ordinary chondrite, but are there any example photos of freshly fallen iron meteorites with very fresh fusion crust beside the Sikhote Alin meteorite? Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Gene Shoemaker Impact Video available 17NOV09
Dirk thanks, awesomme I haven't seen this in years -- From: drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 1:39 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Rockhounds rockhou...@lists.drizzle.com; IMCA MAILING LIST i...@imcamail.de Subject: [meteorite-list] Gene Shoemaker Impact Video available 17NOV09 Dear List, It was just posted from Youtube: http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/ It is a great video about Gene Shoemaker and his study of impact craters on Earth. If you have not seen it yet I suggest that you view it (parts 1 and 2). Thank you. Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Competition
Do unto ... Think positive But BE happily surprised at any good fortune or good turn offered or given The only DUMB question is the one not asked -- From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 2:18 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Competition Hi Listees, With respect to all, but without concern for offending the easily offendable I would like to say: If you want to learn about meteorites ASK. If you want to sell meteorites, then buy them, or find them, and sell them. If you want to collect meteorites then collect them. If you want to find them, do the research yourself and help contribute something rather than complaining about people who won't contribute to creating their own competition. If you want to hunt for meteorites with a team ASK and be man (or woman) enough to except a no and be grateful if you get a yes! Be appreciative of the help you do receive. Don't whine! If you'd like to learn to etch meteorites If you'd like to learn how to track and find new meteorite falls If you'd like to learn how to get others help then do the following: Help others in turn! Offer to help when it's not expected! Give! Do your own research! Get out there and hunt! Get out there and make your own contacts. Don't expect people just to jump in and be happy to help you. Stop whining. Work your ass off! Put in the hours! Have something to contribute! Earn it! And most of all, don't make the mistake of thinking this business is dog-eat-dog. It's like ANY industry or social group and is what you make it. If you look at is in a certain light, that is what you will see. Have something to give, and do your own work, don't try piggy-backing on others successes. People will usually not help those who don't help them unless they are just nice people. Show respect and have admiration for those who go out and spend the countless hours and thousands of dollars researching the meteorites they love so much... Treat people the way you want to be treated and you'll garner a lot more respect from your peers in ANY business. Help people and they will help you. Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - November 13, 2009
Gee Mike, lucky in love and meteorite hunting! -- From: spacerocks...@aol.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 3:24 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - November 13,2009 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/puerto_lapice_spain_meteorite_hunt.html __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 34 Items up for Tucson Meteorite Auction (ad)
Drool is RIGHT! -- From: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 7:36 PM To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] 34 Items up for Tucson Meteorite Auction (ad) Yo! Now have 34 items up - most are KILLER, not a one has a Minimum bid. Check it out at: http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/TucsonAuction10.html (Hit Refresh if you have been there before today) Last few days to put in stuff at lowest consignment fee rate. (email me with a list, even if you don't have photos yet). RSVP Best wishes, Michael __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - November 3, 2009
What a wonderful kaleidoscope John -- From: Michael Johnson rocksfromsp...@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 8:33 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - November 3,2009 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/November_3_2009.html __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Announcing: The Meteorite Wiki
Outstanding Eric! -- From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 6:07 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Announcing: The Meteorite Wiki Hi Listees, Meteorite Collectors, Scientists, Meteorite Junkies, Addicts All Meteorite Enthusiasts, A long while ago I discussed an idea for a central meteorite website with some community members about the creation of a central hub of meteorite knowledge and information database in which everyone could participate and contribute through a community of like minded individuals. This of course would be for the furtherance of the science and hobby of meteoritics, meteorite collecting, meteorite hunting, and the meteorite industry as a whole. A website that would provide an active and evolving database of encyclopedic meteorite knowledge and information for the hobbiest, scientist and even more so for the curious, as they are the new meteorite enthusiasts and possible future meteoriticists. As the world learns more about meteorites, asteroids, comets, and the universe in relation to meteorites what better way to grow this knowledge base than through the first and only meteorite related wiki. For those of you who are unfamiliar with what a wiki is, it's an online collaborative effort to compile information in a community type environment. Introducing The Meteorite Wiki: www.meteoritewiki.com The Meteorite Wiki runs on the same software that runs the world famous and beloved Wikipedia.org website, and is robust and feature rich enough to provide the perfect venue to compile the worlds meteorite information into one easy and convenient online database. Mission Statement: To compile knowledge and share the enjoyment of meteorite science hobby through an open community wiki in which everyone interested can participate contribute to the growth of the knowledge of meteorites. Enjoy... Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA P.S. Those interested in contributing or who would like more information, you're welcome to respond to this thread publicly on-list or privately via email. If you belong to a university or educational institution we would love to have you contibute your articles, papers, photos, video or other media to the inclusion in the Meteorite Wiki. We have also reserved the most important website domain name as well for the expansion of the Meteorite Wiki experiment, meteoritewiki.org. This is to create a non-profit organization for the site should it be a successful endeavor. For now though it will be under the .com extension. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] (No More) One-Ad Per Week Rule
Sounds like a valid historic summary and I don't advertize. -- From: dean bessey deanbes...@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 3:13 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] (No More) One-Ad Per Week Rule The fact seems to be forgotten that a consensus was taken by Art about advertising in his forum. Advertising is a privilege, not a right and Art was considering having no ads at all due to abuse. The consensus, at the time, was that way too many ads were being posted and that one-ad-per-week should be a rule. List members input was taken into account so this was not only Art's wishes but the majority of other members as well. SNIP This is flat out wrong. There never was any consensus. Art went on record as saying that he did not mind ads. What happened was that 4 or 5 people decided that they would hijack Art's list as if it was their own and decide to prevent people from making to many (Whatever that means) ads. After months and months of bombarding the list with anti ad attack postings Art basically tried to shut up the malcontents that dont appriciate the fact that they have the privelidge being a part of what is basically the best online meteorite forum and said OK, one a week. Then, rather than shut up, these 4 or 5 people decide to declare themselves sherrif and kept going on with this anti ad campaign and even the most minor offence (Even during big shows like tucson and munich) was enough to make attack postings. They decided to continue making an ass of themselves and continue their efforts to hijack arts list as if it was their own. Then after people started leaving the list because of all these attack postings they had the gall to claim that They left because of the ads. (The fact that people werent leaving before their hijacking and attacking efforts is conveniently ignored). Nobody leaves this list because of the ads (Well there may have been 2 or 3 people who left because they are to stupid to use the delete button or block sender button in their email settings and dislaike the fact that people are allowed to own meteorites like the cultural property people in some governments but its an insignificant few). People leave because of the bickering. Dont try and twist it around that its not because of those 4 or 5 people that is basically ruining things for everybody. Becides why are you 4 or 5 people constantly harrassing the other 1000 of us with your diatrabes? An iq of about six would enable you to understand that the only person who matters is art so why dont you email him rather than the rest of us who cant do anything even if we did buy the fact that you somehow have the right to unilaterally declare yourselves sherrif even though you have no ownership or control of this list? The answer of course is that Art has the smarts to ignore the whackos. Nobody is forcing anybody to be a part of this list. You dont even need arts permission to leave. You can do it yourself. Stop this assanine BS and let us talk meteorites and have sales. If you have a problem dont complain to the other 1000 of us. And the Majority consensus that you refer to is about the same as what the Majority consensus of an iranian election would be. It is flat out not the will of the majority of list members or the list owner but the will of 4 or 5 people who wants to run the list as they see fit (Like the aftermat of an Iranian election). I suspect that cottingshams lastest excessive postings are designed to entertain and see how big an ass that certain paople can make of themselves by complaining about them. Some people has posted 2 anti ad attacks for every one of cottingshams supposedly excessive ads. The other 1000 of us are surely happy about that. Go away. The consensus of the silent majority dont want to listen to your attacks anymore Sincerely DEAN __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] MRO HiRISE Images - October 14, 2009
Tyrrhena Terra Crater with Central Uplift and Hydrated Minerals http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_014333_1715 In the above image, is the rusty patch in the lower right quad., the hydrated minerals?? Thanks in advance Jerry Flaherty -- From: Ron Baalke baa...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 3:56 PM To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] MRO HiRISE Images - October 14, 2009 MARS RECONNAISSANCE ORBITER HIRISE IMAGES October 14, 2009 o USGS Dune Database Entry http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_014426_2070 o Slope Streaks in Olympus Mons Aureole http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_014394_2045 o Light-Toned Units along the Wallrock and Floor of Melas Region http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_014339_1710 o Tyrrhena Terra Crater with Central Uplift and Hydrated Minerals http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_014333_1715 o Gullies on South-Facing Slopes of Crater http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_014271_1480 o Disappearing Craters http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_014097_1120 All of the HiRISE images are archived here: http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ Information about the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter is online at http://www.nasa.gov/mro. The mission is managed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division of the California Institute of Technology, for the NASA Science Mission Directorate, Washington, D.C. Lockheed Martin Space Systems, of Denver, is the prime contractor and built the spacecraft. HiRISE is operated by the University of Arizona. Ball Aerospace and Technologies Corp., of Boulder, Colo., built the HiRISE instrument. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] One-Complaint Per Week Rule
OH YEA!! -- From: Frank Cressy fcre...@prodigy.net Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 7:41 PM To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] One-Complaint Per Week Rule I'd vote for the one complaint per week rule...maybe even a one complaint per month rule! Frank __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Groningen Bolide
Oh happy day I get to witness this! -- From: christopher sharp cas...@cooloola.net Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 10:22 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Groningen Bolide Higher resolution image: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html Robert Mikaelyan got in a great couple of shots! He wouldn't have had a lot of time. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Way too many sales posts ....Cottingham !
Me too hitting the delete key is a lot simpler once that the twenty x's all this chatter produces -- From: Melanie Matthews spacewoman2...@hotmail.com Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 9:32 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Way too many sales posts Cottingham ! Personally I have no problems with the adds. :) Regards --- Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what you're gonna get! From: mikew...@gilanet.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:57:31 -0700 Subject: [meteorite-list] Way too many sales posts Cottingham ! Hello, This is a post, via the list to myself. DUDE - You have to stop sending so many sales posts to the list. I mean stop it. You must have sent at least 5 or more in the last 10 days. You have broken the list rules several times over! Now stop it. Do you not have any respect for the people of this list. Most of us could care less about buying your meteorites and yet you seem to think that people on this list want to buy meteorites-especially yours. Over and over you post, trying to come up with all types of sales to drag people over to your ebay store to buy your meteorites. Just because you have 100's of specimens to choose from does not give you the right to post more than 1 ad a week. Please try and stay with the policy. Please. Your alter and rational pleading self Michael Cottingham PS. If you can go without posting to the list for at least 7 days (Ads that is) I will give you a free meteorite! __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ New! Faster Messenger access on the new MSN homepage http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9677406 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - October 5, 2009
Paint a face on that one! -- From: Michael Johnson rocksfromsp...@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 12:03 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - October 5,2009 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/October_5_2009.html __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - October 3, 2009
Diamonds in the Sky -- From: Michael Johnson rocksfromsp...@yahoo.com Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 12:00 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - October 3,2009 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/October_3_2009.html __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - October 2, 2009
Great Picture Twink -- From: Michael Johnson rocksfromsp...@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:16 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - October 2,2009 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/October_2_2009.html __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thars H2O in them thar digs
NASA ups estimate of Lunar water by 100%. Polar rocks may contain up to 100ppm. Still micro amounts but startling nevertheless. Jerry Flaherty __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Credit where credit is more than due
Eric rules -- From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 6:56 PM To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Credit where credit is more than due I know that most businesses never hear anything but complaints, and I've expressed my share on this list too. I just want to let everyone know of a dealer going above and beyond, WAY above, and offer some praise here instead of complaint. I ordered a small slice of Gujba, just a couple of grams, for my type set from Eric Twelker a short while ago. When it hadn't arrived, I inquired if it had been sent and when, just to make sure it hadn't gotten lost in the mail. He responded quickly that he was away but would check on it as soon as he returned home. Finding he had made a mistake, he apologized that he hadn't yet sent it and said it'd be on its way that day. That was on Saturday. I just went out to the mailbox to find my slice already delivered with $21+ postage on the envelope! I'm still shocked. Totally unexpected and in my case, unnecessary. He could have sent it via normal 1st class mail and I would have been happy with that, but he made the extra effort and loss of profit to make a very small mistake in mind very much more than right. Eric's website http://www.meteoritemarket.com/mmhomef.htm -- Richard Kowalski http://fullmoonphotography.net IMCA #1081 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] ALERT-86g Millbillillie STOLEN from Blaine Reed
Bad things happening to good people Sucks! Sorry for your loss. -- From: m...@mhmeteorites.com Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 10:04 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] ALERT-86g Millbillillie STOLEN from Blaine Reed Hi everyone: Some not-so-good news from the Denver show. Sometime before 1:30 PM today (9/20) and after Blaine closed yesterday (9/19), an 86 gram Millbillillie end cut was stolen from Blaine's room. The piece belonged to me and was in the cabinet near the entrance to his room. If anyone has information about this specimen please contact me or Blaine ASAP. Pictures of the specimen can be seen here: http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/millbillillie_86.jpg Thanks for your time. Matt Morgan __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - September 21, 2009
There's ONE that pretty much theft proof. -- From: spacerocks...@aol.com Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 12:10 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - September 21,2009 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/September_21_2009.html __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD: New Baby On The Way Sale and New Set OfAuctions Started!
Aye aye to that Michael -- From: Tom Randall (KB2SMS) tommy2...@hvc.rr.com Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 1:05 PM To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD: New Baby On The Way Sale and New Set OfAuctions Started! Mike, Congrats to you and your wife on the new little one! Tom __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Shivalingams impactites?
Quartz ain't sedimentary -- From: Leigh Anne DelRay leighannedel...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 6:45 PM To: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Shivalingams impactites? Crypto-crystalline quartz (I think) On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Mel, Shiva Lingams are ordinary stones that have been polished by people into their respective shapes to create the religiously symbolic stones that people so seem to like. They are generally made of ordinary rocks with nothing really special about them - unless you believe in their religious/spiritual nature. I suppose you could have one made out of impactite, or even a meteorite, but I have *never* seen one made of said materials. They're typically made of that odd dichromatic sedimentary stone (at least I'm fairly sure it's sedimentary given the texture), but I'm not exactly sure as to what it is. Regards, Jason On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 4:24 AM, Melanie Matthews spacewoman2...@hotmail.com wrote: Good morning list. I was told once by the store owner of a local rock shop that shivalingams are the result of meteor impacts in India... think I recall her claim was backed by info from a rock/mineral book that she uses for reference. Is this true? I haven't found anything on google that mentions anything on that.. Regards - Mel _ New! Open Messenger faster on the MSN homepage http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9677405 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Idle speculation on panspermia
You Never Know?! -- From: Rob McCafferty rob_mccaffe...@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 7:54 PM To: E.P. Grondine epgrond...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Idle speculation on panspermia I agree, at least in part. Panspermia may not be the motivation to explore Europa and in truth, a decent sub-surface examination of that world will require a far greater commitment than $4Bn. The NEO programme needs a far greater commitment, as does any programme to counter such a threat that an NEO amy pose. I suppose it's all a question of budget. I am angry at the money put in to shoring up the banks that have put our economy on the verge of collapse, particularly since they seem unrepentant and want to use the money we have gifted them to return to earning more of the fat earnings they got before the collapse. The thought that the Constellation programme risks being shelved because of the recent problems is abhorent. And in the UK we look at a terrible situation for much of our future at the mercy of commerce. As a child, I'd hoped that mankind would begin colonising the Solar System. Thanks to recent events, I look like having ALL my dreams for the future of humanity crushed. Not just for my lifetime but for the 2-3 generations to follow me. All because of the greed of a handful of people who don't realise that a single rock from space could wipe out everything they or their progeny could have. And we seem powerless to do anything about it. In 100Ma, some species will be wondering how we managed to end up extinct. Rob McC --- On Tue, 9/22/09, E.P. Grondine epgrond...@yahoo.com wrote: From: E.P. Grondine epgrond...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Idle speculation on panspermia To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 12:30 AM Hi all - One of the reasons why panspermia etc. play such a role in debate regards some peoples' obsessions with manned flight to Mars, and the problem of back-contamination. Bottom line: we don't know. Other bottom line: it's not all that important to know right now. I read with frustration and anger reports of NASA proposing to spend $4 billion on the question of life on Europa, while spending as near $0 as they can get away with on finding the next piece of space crud headed our way. Could someone fire Weiler now? Tomorrow morning? E.P. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bugs In Space!
http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2009/09/is-life-hardwired-into-the-universe-some-experts-say-yes.html Life hardwired into Universe [at least the one we know about--Universe thatis] -- From: Rob McCafferty rob_mccaffe...@yahoo.com Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 11:26 AM To: Becky and Kirk ba...@chorus.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Bugs In Space! To me---believing that all life has originated here on Earth and then spread out from here is like saying that the Earth is still the center of the solar system or Universe. Andwe don't believe that anymore, now do we?? That is not what Mark said and to imply that he did is insulting of the intelligence of anyone with a reasonable grasp of scientific method. You are entitled to believe what you like but remember that it really is just a belief. If you are going to insist on panspermia being anything other than another crackpot idea dreamed up by people who prefer conspiracy because the alternatives is unpalatable to them then show me the evidence. Not the junk you find on youtube posted by idiots, proper evidence, peer reviewed in reputable journals with scientifically reproducible results. Mark stated (quite clearly, I thought) that all life on earth gan be genetically linked to earth and it seems far more likely that it began here where conditions are ideal than it being delivered here by something else. I am not sorry about the curt nature of this response. I grow weary of a discussion that has people on one side unwilling to accept science, its methods and its process. Believe what you will. Nothing I could say would make you change your viewpoint. This sort of idea always seems to possess immense inertia. Rob McC __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] TC3 Article
Great Article One Picture. -- From: Whitney Riner majesticmeteori...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 11:46 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] TC3 Article Popular Science has an article on the TC3 fall--both online and in the October issue of the magazine. http://www.popsci.com/military-aviation-amp-space/article/2009-09/rock-hunt __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list