Re: [meteorite-list] Going to meteorite-hunting trip in the US desert, advices and companions are welcome

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Hi, Volodymyr.

I will add that most of the desert hunting out here is done by eye, your
metal detector would only be useful in a few, select spot.  You'll cover
more ground just with your eye and magnet.  Good luck, let us know how your
trip goes!

-Michael in so. Cal.


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On Fri, Jul 7, 2023 at 4:34 PM AL Mitterling via Meteorite-list <
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> Greetings Volodymyr,
>
> It goes without saying, make sure you take plenty of water and food.
> Deserts this time of year can be very unforgiving. A GPS to be able to find
> your way out is a good idea. Best wishes!
>
> --AL Mitterling
> Mitterling Meteorites
>
> On Fri, Jul 7, 2023 at 8:42 AM Volodymyr Mykhaylyuk via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I am planning a week-long meteorite-hunting trip at the end of August to
>> one of the deserts in the west of the US.
>> I will use a metal detector and visual/magnet methods to look
>> for meteorites.
>> Any advice or pointer in the right direction will be appreciated.
>> We are a family of three and if anyone heading that way at that time with
>> similar goals, please email me, and we could stick together as companions.
>>
>> Volodymyr
>> pesh...@gmail.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] Congratulations on a successful hunt!

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Nice!

-Michael in so. Cal.

On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 6:30 AM Kevin Kichinka via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> With* Team Meteorite *members Marc and Linda Fries, Roberto Vargas,
> Mathew Stream and Eric Rasmussen working together, the result was the
> recovery of four meteorites from the Natchez MS meteorite fall.  Beautiful
> stuff.
>
> Read about it here
>
>
> https://ares.jsc.nasa.gov/meteorite-falls/updates/meteorites-found-in-natchez-ms-fall
>
> Kevin Kichinka
> Forever due south of Agua Zarcas
>
> *The Art of Collecting Meteorites *available on Amazon
>
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> with superb regmaglypts. Browse the auction and register to bid online.
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Re: [meteorite-list] 4.6 billion-year-old meteorite found in horseshoe footprint

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Thanks, Paul, that's neat.

I,like many others, have found meteorites out at Holbrook that were either
inside cow hoof prints, or in the dried mud that squirted up from a cow
stepping.

http://www.mikestang.com/user/cimage/HolbrookJuly2013-011.jpg
http://www.mikestang.com/user/cimage/20180428_153736.jpg

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On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 7:44 PM Paul via Meteorite-list <
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> 4.6 billion-year-old meteorite found in horseshoe footprint
> By Stephanie Pappas, Live Science
>
> https://www.livescience.com/rare-carbonaceous-carbonate-meteorite-found.html
> The meteorite is a rare carbonaceous chondrite
>
> Yours,
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Re: [meteorite-list] SALE: BUR-ABOR, AN INCOMPARABLE METEORITE SPECIMEN – MAIN MASS

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Bill, please see Microsoft Word - falls and finds - accepted 2-24-2015.docx
(usra.edu)  for an
answer to your question.  The Nomenclature Committee of the Meteoritical
Society maintains these definitions.

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On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 4:44 PM bill k via Meteorite-list <
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> "Bur-Abor is not considered an “unwitnessed fall” by anyone as no such
> designation exists.
>
> Is there an "official" designation for "witnessed find"? I mean it is
> implied and should go without saying... but is it an officially recognized
> term?
>
>
>
>
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> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Wednesday, May 19, 2021 6:45 AM, Darryl Pitt via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Elizabeth,
> >
> > Bur-Abor is not considered an “unwitnessed fall” by anyone as no such
> designation exists.  The features of this meteorite are consistent with a
> residency on Earth of at least decades — if not centuries...or far more;
> Bur-Abor is an outstanding, highly weathered meteorite.  Please remedy as
> we all get hurt when the line between puffing and misrepresentation is
> blurred.
> >
> > > On May 18, 2021, at 11:34 AM, Elizabeth Grose via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > NOW AVAILABLE AT AUCTION
> > > BUR-ABOR, AN INCOMPARABLE METEORITE SPECIMEN – MAIN MASS
> > > Iron, medium octahedrite IIIAB
> > > Northeastern Province, Kenyahttps://
> www.bonhams.com/auctions/27190/lot/11/
> > >
> > > A thrilling 600-pound main mass, the Bur-Abor meteorite main mass may
> arguably be classed at the top of all large iron meteorites to be offered
> at auction. Bur -Abor was found in Northeastern Kenya in a local family's
> garden, after it fell on Nov. 27, 1997. Considered an unwitnessed fall,
> Bur-Abor boasts numerous distinguished qualities.
> > >
> > > The present main mass is replete with regmaglypts and large scoops
> while also displaying the rarely seen feature of orientation. These
> distinctive features were caused by ablation as the meteorite coursed
> through Earth's atmosphere. One can see the surface area where elongated,
> parallel thumbprints indicate oriented flight, which melted grooves into
> the surface, mirroring each other in shape and size. Created by millions of
> years in the heavy metal core of an asteroid, it weighs a massive 274
> kilograms and has never been cleaned or wire brushed; its appearance is
> exactly as it was the day it was found.
> > >
> > > After its discovery, a portion of Bur-Abor was taken to the Natural
> History Museum in London. The present offering is the main mass. Iron
> meteorites of this size and beauty are generally only seen in world
> renowned museums and a few university display collections. The magnificent
> piece is offered on a rotating custom steel stand. Weighing 274kg (602.8
> lbs). Measuring 32 x 20 x 15 in
> > > View it online: https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/27190/lot/11/
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Re: [meteorite-list] Not an answer they like

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Tell them to have it classified by a laboratory, and then ignore them.
Chances are these types won't even listen to a laboratory, but it takes the
onus of reply off of you.

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On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 1:17 PM tracy latimer via Meteorite-list <
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> I've been fielding a lot of e-mails this week from someone who is certain
> that a meteorite nearly hit their house.  The picture they sent me is of
> what looks like a weathered lava bomb that likely washed free of an upslope
> location and rolled/fell/bounced into his yard.  They found it the
> following day after a "loud thump that shook the house", then picked it up
> and hosed it off, so don't have any pictures of it in situ, just a shallow
> hole with muddy splash marks.  I've told them several times that it doesn't
> look like a meteorite: vesicles, not regmaglypts; no fusion crust, nothing
> that identifies it as a likely meteorite, but they don't want to hear it.
> Anyone who has dealt with a persistent "meteorite" finder, how did you
> eventually get them to listen to reason/experience -- or not?
>
> Best!
> Tracy Latimer
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Re: [meteorite-list] [EXTERNAL] Re: Galactic Analytics content?

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

As someone who never has and never will use FB, I welcome other avenues of
information disbursement.

-Michael in so. Cal.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 12:16 PM Anne Black via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> Marc,
>
> I would think that you would need to talk to the owner of the
> Meteorite-List first of all.
> You will find him at   MeteoriteCentral.com
>
> Hello to Linda.
>
> Anne Black
> IMPACTIKA.com
> impact...@aol.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Fries, Marc D. (JSC-XI211) via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Mon, Jan 11, 2021 11:44 am
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [EXTERNAL] Re: Galactic Analytics content?
>
> Howdy all
>
>   Thank you all for your feedback.  I’ve been talking with
> folks on various platforms today, and it seems I’ve found a good option.
> There is a new meteorite-related, international, non-profit organization
> standing up soon.  They’ve agreed to host GA-style information including
> images with free and open access.  What I’d like to do, if it’s alright
> with y’all, is to host content on that platform and send links to the Met
> List.  That way y’all can share in the content, the information remains
> freely available, and this also solves the problem of how to share images
> (strewn fall calculations, images of radar signatures, etc.).
>   This new organization is going to make its debut online in
> about a month and will have their own announcements – I don’t want to steal
> their thunder by saying more than that now. It looks like this is going to
> work well.
>
>   If any new falls occur between now and then, well I’m
> working on that.  I’ll find a way to disseminate that information.
>
> Cheers,
> Marc
>
> *From:* Swan Valley Bushcraft 
> *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2021 11:14 AM
> *To:* Fries, Marc D. (JSC-XI211) 
> *Cc:* meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [meteorite-list] Galactic Analytics content?
>
> Hello Marc
>
> This Meteorite List has terms of service as well, and has removed
> individuals based upon their postings. It would be a shame if our precious
> meteorite list was dragged into an ideological debate as we have struggled
> to keep the List on topic in the past.
>
> Even though this List is not a democracy, I vote no on your proposal as
> briefly described.
>
> Announcements are fine, I believe, as long as they abide by the TOS, but
> an increased traffic flow is concerning if it deviates from the spirit and
> purpose of this List. Perhaps more clarification about your proposal is
> needed.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Martin
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 10:01 AM Fries, Marc D. (JSC-XI211) via
> Meteorite-list  wrote:
>
> Howdy all
>
>   For the past several years I’ve run Galactic Analytics on
> Facebook.  It has been a freely available forum to discuss meteors and
> meteorite falls, and a convenient site for me to disseminate radar data
> showing potential meteorite falls.  When I started this, Facebook was an
> open forum for all participants. Unfortunately, Facebook has recently
> enacted policies which restrict the uncensored flow of content between one
> end of the political spectrum in particular.  I cannot support censorship,
> as it is a form of oppression.  I have shut down Galactic Analytics (but
> will retain old content on Facebook for the time being) and am looking for
> a new, open venue to host content.
>   Most of the options include starting up some new platform,
> which has the drawback of adding yet another source for interested parties
> to keep track of.  However it occurred to me that we can use this as an
> opportunity to consolidate sources.
>
>   What would you all think if I were to start posting GA
> content on the Meteorite List?  When an event occurs I can post it here.  I
> will have to find a server to host images but that is do-able.  Be advised
> that it may increase MetList traffic by a sizable fraction.
>
>   What do you think?
>
> Cheers,
> Marc Fries
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Re: [meteorite-list] Who sold their collection to a pawn shop?

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

TKW reported in the MetBull is often inaccurate, as addition masses found
after the classification are seldom reflected in the MetBul.

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On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 10:42 AM bill kies via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> After over 40 years in the resale business I can think of quite a few
> scenarios that might lead to a sale like this. Theft is a possibility that
> should always be looked at but in this case seems unlikely. There are
> certainly people out there worthy of Darwin Awards that would try to sell
> stolen merchandise this unique on ebay. Many other more likely
> possibilities though.
>
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[meteorite-list] In memoriam: John Wasson

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

https://newsroom.ucla.edu/stories/in-memoriam-john-wasson-cosmochemist-and-co-creator-the-ucla-meteorite-collection

I was only fortunate enough to meet him one time, but the conversation that
followed is one I will always cherish.  R.I.P., Dr. Wasson, may you find
peace among the cosmos.

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Re: [meteorite-list] July Issue of Meteorite Times is now up

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Thanks, Paul!  Thanks, Jim!

I still contend that the S.A. hunting story deserves a long form book,
wonderful to read along.

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On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 1:38 PM Paul Harris via Meteorite-list <
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> Hello Everyone,
>
> The July Issue of Meteorite Times is now up.
>
> https://www.meteorite-times.com/monthly-issues/
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Paul and Jim
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

"Submit a picture" link at the top of the page.

-Michael in so. Cal.

On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 5:39 AM DAN via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> To whom it may concern,
> I asked recently just exactly how and to where are images submitted??
>
> Thanks, DAN
>
>
>
> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy Note® 4, an AT 4G LTE smartphone
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Alfredo Petrov via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> Date: 2/3/19 10:24 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: valpar...@aol.com
> Cc: meteorite list 
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
>
> Because everyone is busy in Tucson? (or Cuba)
>  ;))
>
> On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 at 09:00, Paul Swartz via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
>> No picture was submitted for today.
>>
>> http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=02/03/2019
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Re: [meteorite-list] I hunted 5 meteorites yesterday

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Nope.

On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 4:03 PM 老杨 via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I hunted 5 meteorites yesterday and uploaded videos on youtube. You might
> like these.
>
> 270.6 Gram Rare Meteorite
> https://youtu.be/XgcaFba7mJM
>
> A Beautiful Meteorite
> https://youtu.be/q9QQhhrzRf8
>
> An Extremely Rare Lunar Meteorite
> https://youtu.be/zExAKHeLWBs
>
> Excellent Lunar Meteorite
> https://youtu.be/NH2mATvGSN4
>
> Rarest Meteorite
> https://youtu.be/eAnvQslXkM8
>
> --
> Thank You
> Yan S.
> 12O1 Dihao Building, Daping
> Chongqing, P.R. China 400300
> Phone: +86 18983839805
> Skype: yarkwinter
> E-mail: 243347...@qq.com 
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[meteorite-list] Operation Relocation: Marissa's move out west

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Hello, List.

Back in 2014 the meteorite community came together and helped make
history and a dream come true by sending Marissa Fanady on a
life-changing meteorite hunting expedition where she became the first
(as far as we can tell) person in a wheelchair to ever find a
meteorite.  It's time to rally the banners again, but this time for a
much larger project.

Marissa is trying to move out west to Tucson, AZ so that she can
pursue a life devoted to meteorites and their study.  She needs our
help again, not only with raising the funds to facilitate this move,
but more importantly in spreading the word about her campaign.  Every
day it seems like some campaign goes viral and raises money for a
cause that appears less than worthwhile - let's get this campaign to
go global and help a most deserving young lady realize her potential.

She made a video describing her situation, goals, and reasons for
wanting to move, it can be viewed here:
https://youtu.be/CwWvadGdI1g

She has a GoFundMe campaign here:
https://www.gofundme.com/arfww-operation-relocation

Please, share the video and fund raising campaign links any way you
can; if you run a website consider putting them on a banner, share
them with local media, forward this email, share the links on
Twitter/Facebook/Instagram, whatever you can do to spread the word
will help.  Of course if you can contribute to the fund raiser that
would help, too, but this time it's going to take more than just our
small community to help her make this happen.

I sincerely thank you for your time and any help you are able to provide.
Michael in so. Cal.

P.S. A recap of Marissa's 2014 adventure can be found here:
http://meteorites.ning.com/forum/topics/official-meteorite-hunting-trip-reports
<- her report
http://www.mikestang.com/marissastv.htm <- my report w/pictures
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Re: [meteorite-list] Michigan Meteorite

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Greg, since fresh meteorites are black they will absorb heat from the
sun and warm enough to melt their way into snow or ice.  You can
search for example of this with Tagish Lake and Buzzard Coulee, for
example.

Sounds like a fun hunt!

Michael in so. Cal.


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On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 9:27 AM, Sam Sabba via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
> Hello all!
>
> I sent a post in a few days ago but I think I caused confusion by sending it
> via my other email address that was not the one I registered with.  Let's
> see if this works better.
>
> My 7 year old daughter begged me to take her meteorite hunting after I
> picked her up form school this past Wednesday.  My first reaction was to say
> no given the long odds, the cold, and the fact that she would miss a
> practice.  She persisted, and then I realized I was being a fool and only
> thinking of the effort and poor odds involved, and not of the journey and
> wonderful scientific lesson itself!  So we drove the 1 hour (easy compared
> to the travel time for the rest of you I see) and hunted a collection of
> Hamburg athletic fields.  We did not find anything, but had a good time in
> the process.  I see now that of course several pieces have been found
> (congrats to those that have found some).
> I am completely new to this, and I wanted to ask a few questions to satisfy
> my curiosity as well as my daughter's.  Now that the professionals are in
> town, we will not be bothering to try again. :)
> During our search, we had expected that any pieces would have gone down into
> the ground at least a little bit.  I however see that several of the pieces
> that have been found were just laying in the snow on top of a frozen lake.
> Is it normal for pieces of a meteorite to not land with enough force to
> break through ice or even frozen soil?  Would they normally at least break
> through unfrozen soil, such as on a lawn or athletic field?
> Also, given the approximately 2 inches of snow we had on the ground here,
> would heat be produced from the meteorite itself or from it's impact that
> would have melted snow around it in any meaningful way?
> My daughter is probably doing her show-and-tell presentation at school as I
> type this (using a regular rock we found to represent the potential
> meteorite) so it is too late to provide her details for that, but we are
> both still curious.
> Thank you and good luck to those who will still be looking!
>
> Greg
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Michigan fall

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Well done, Robert and Larry!  Hope to make it out there while there
are still some rocks laying around.

-Michael in so. Cal.

On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 11:33 AM, Matson, Rob D. via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
> One of the finds Robert is holding doesn't look that small to me -- looks over
> 100 grams based on the size. Very nice!  --Rob
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On 
> Behalf Of Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list
> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 11:25 AM
> To: Les to Rovy; Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list; Meteorite Mailing List
> Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [meteorite-list] Michigan Meteor
>
> They found a few small specimens last I heard.
> Did they find the main mass?
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Re: [meteorite-list] BLM Public Land

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Instruction Memorandum No. 2012-182
Expires:  09/30/2013

It no longer is applicable, nor was it ever truly.  I got further than
anyone in attempting to procure one of their so-called "permits"; they
were never intended to be issued to anyone, nor is that memo a law.
As Jim correctly points out, the law is silent on the meteorite front.

Michael in so. Cal.

On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 9:12 AM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
> The law was updated on September 10, 2012.  They felt the law need to be
> updated in order to protect meteorites after seeing all of TV shows on how
> valuable they were. All these laws have a genesis to the Antiquities Act of
> 1906 which has been heavily abused by politicians including massive land
> grabs.
>
> Here is a link directly to the BLM updates which directly relates to
> meteorites:
>
> https://www.blm.gov/policy/im-2012-182-0
>
> The BLM will provide you with PDF files if you want to research in depth.
>
>
>
> On 1/9/2018 8:05 AM, Jim Wooddell wrote:
>>
>> What date are you referring to in regards to  43 CFR 8365.1-5???
>>
>> GPO has the 2001 version and there is not one mention of meteorites nor
>> any of the wording below.
>> Can you reference a link to the CFR in question?
>>
>> My Ref:
>>
>> https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-2001-title43-vol2/pdf/CFR-2001-title43-vol2-sec8365-1-5.pdf
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> Sent from Mail  for
>> Windows 10
>>
>> *From: *Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list
>> 
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 9, 2018 8:41 AM
>> *To: *metlist 
>>
>> *Subject: *Re: [meteorite-list] BLM Public Land
>>
>> 43 CFR 8365.1-5
>>
>> Collection of meteorites is limited to certain public lands. Public
>>
>> lands closed to casual collection include: developed recreation sites,
>>
>> certain units of the National Landscape Conservation System, areas
>>
>> excluded from casual collection in a Land Use Plan such as an Area of
>>
>> Critical Environmental Concern (ACEC) or a wilderness area, and areas
>>
>> closed by supplemental regulations;
>>
>> Individuals are limited to collecting what can be easily hand-carried,
>>
>> up to a maximum of ten pounds of meteorites per individual, per year;
>>
>> Only surface collection of meteorites using non-motorized and
>>
>> non-mechanical equipment is allowed (metal detectors may be used); and
>>
>> Casually-collected meteorites are for personal use only, and may not be
>>
>> bartered or sold for commercial purposes.
>>
>> On 1/9/2018 4:50 AM, Jim Wooddell wrote:
>>
>>  > What law?  Can you please reference the CFR’s?
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > Kind Regards,
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > Jim Wooddell
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > Sent from Mail  for
>>
>>  > Windows 10
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > *From: *Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list
>>
>>  > 
>>
>>  > *Sent: *Monday, January 8, 2018 5:23 PM
>>
>>  > *To: *Raremeteorites 
>>
>>  > *Cc: *metlist 
>>
>>  > *Subject: *Re: [meteorite-list] BLM Public Land
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > I haven't hunted meteorites - other than the occasional fall or
>> probable
>>
>>  > fall - in many years and no I never had any trouble with any government
>>
>>  > or state agency relating to meteorites or anything else.
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > On Jan 8, 2018 2:58 PM, "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list"
>>
>>  > >
>>  > > wrote:
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > Hi Ruben and List,
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > Ruben, didn't you have problems with the BLM?
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > I was just trying to save some dealers from grief.  I do not agree
>>
>>  > with the new laws, that were incorporated after much press about
>> the
>>
>>  > monetary value of meteorites aired a few years back, but still
>> abide
>>
>>  > by them.
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > Anybody dealing meteorites found on public land is at serious risk
>>
>>  > of prosecution since they are making themselves low-hanging fruit
>>
>>  > for competitors and agents alike.  It only takes one phone call.
>>
>>  > Not only that, dealers who break the law by selling these finds,
>>
>>  > jeopardize the collection of meteorites on public lands for the
>> rest
>>
>>  > of us.  Dealers breaking the law can be used as examples for even
>>
>>  > stricter laws forbidding the hunting of meteorites altogether.
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > Adam
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > On 1/8/2018 1:03 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list wrote:
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > This just in, Adam has finally commented on everything,
>>
>>  > including Ads!
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 12:54 PM, Larry Atkins via
>> Meteorite-list
>>
>>  > 

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad 32 Auctions Lots of Good Deals!

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Then send him a private note, and respond to his note to you in private.

I would argue that you going on and on and on about this draws more
attention to it than the ad itself.

Michael in so. Cal.

On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 3:08 PM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
> Larry,
>
> I do not have a problem with you personally.  I enjoy your field reports but
> was dismayed to see meteorites found on public land being offered up on a
> commercial basis since it could have an affect on the future of meteorite
> hunting.  I have been involved with BLM land discussions since the 1990's so
> this is nothing new.
>
> These laws are being enforced which I am sure people will hear about at the
> Tucson show.  No, I am not the snitch.  Actually there are several. If the
> name of just one these snitches (informants) got out, it would shock the
> entire community.  It only takes one person, with their hand caught in the
> cookie jar, to try and save their own butt by turning on others.
>
> My negativity stems from all the damage that has occurred to this avocation,
> being ripped off and badmouthed by dealers.  I have no problem with
> collectors who I tend to side with these days.  Every argument I have had
> has been with dealers, mainly the 3.0 crowd.
>
>
> Adam
>
>
> On 1/8/2018 2:45 PM, Larry Atkins wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Adam,
>>
>> Man, you are killing me. Are you just bored? Why are you singling out me
>> and my auctions? I've never done anything to you, and don't say you are just
>> trying to protect me and other dealers, you are drawing undo attention,
>> that's not protection. Leave sleeping dogs lie. I can't believe that after
>> the last few years of watching you drag people into ridiculousville you've
>> finally got me. On one hand I really want to ignore you but I can't.
>>
>> I sell once a year, enough to cover a tiny percentage of the costs of the
>> pursuit. I contribute valuable information and new meteorites to science as
>> often as I can, all with my own hard earned money. I started my poison ivy
>> control business 12 years ago just so that I could pursue meteorites and
>> contribute to the science. I spent thousands of my own dollars to open up
>> and document the Nevada side of Gold Basin, (which is now confirmed by Dr.
>> Kring and publication is pending.) How much sweat and treasure do you think
>> Osceola cost me? How about weeks and weeks on end for two winters in your
>> back yard, unraveling the Bullhead City strewn field all on my dime? I've
>> worked very hard over the years in my spare time to be a positive force in
>> this hobby, sharing with whom ever and wherever I can.And yes, I'm defensive
>> right now because I take your posts personally. I feel like you are trying
>> to draw attention to me, specifically, right now while my once or so a year
>> ebay ads are running, and I don't deserve that  You should pick someone else
>> to target, maybe someone that is actually out doing bad things.
>>
>>   While I'm at it, if this was something that actually needed to be
>> adhered to, everyone that has ever bought a questionable meteorite should
>> throw it in the garbage right now. Universities and institutions that have
>> procured these same falls and finds should throw theirs on the burn pile
>> too, or turn themselves in and be prosecuted for trafficking. So as anyone
>> of sound mind can see, that's ridiculous and these laws are very much not
>> unlike other b.s. laws of the past and present, practically unenforceable
>> and wrong to begin with. A crime needs a victim by definition and I don't
>> see a victim here. Furthermore, the stones would have to be reclassified and
>> proven to be legitimate, then in the case of say Battle Mountain, Gold
>> Basin, Franconia or Indian Butte, to name a few, there is a checkerboard or
>> mix of private / public land. Which stone is this? Where was this particular
>> stone found? Prove where the stone came from! And all for what? What a joke,
>> a complete waste of resources. It's like trying to enforce sodomy laws or
>> tell people they can't smoke weed, forget it. My neighbor in Az is a county
>> sheriff and I watch him do a rolling stop everyday at the stop sign in front
>> of the house, do I lecture him? Should I call his boss? GET REAL. These laws
>> you cite are wrong headed, or at the very least, if used to prosecute a guy
>> like me, that would not be in the true spirit of which they were written.
>> Despite the fact you say you don't agree with the laws, you seem to be quite
>> an outspoken proponent on this list, unless of course it interferes with
>> your pursuits.
>>
>> Adam, I used to have great respect for you, and though I can't take away
>> anything positive you've done in the past, it would seem your days of
>> positive contribution are over. During the past several years your posts
>> have continually deteriorated in such a negative way that I don't respect
>> you anymore. I wouldn't be a bit 

Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Bitcoin Holders

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

John, how much fiat currency was used in criminal endeavors last
month?  I promise you it was exponentially more than bitcoin.  Please
don't haphazardly associate bitcoin with criminal activity.

-Michael in so. Cal.

On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
> 1) This has nothing to do with meteorite classification.
>
> 2) That email is an advertisement, Adam. Whether you think it is or not.
>
> 3) I wonder how many bitcoins were used last month in criminal endeavors? Not 
> something I would want any of my meteorite classifications associated with...
>
> Cheers,
> John A. Shea, MD
> IMCA 3295
>
>
>
>
> Sent using the mail.com mail app
>
> On 12/1/17 at 3:28 PM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list wrote:
>
>> Wow, the NWA 5000 Bitcoin artwork has really gone up in price.  This is
>> for an unloaded Kialara pair priced at 4.25 bitcoins equaling
>> $45,772.48.  The entire unloaded suite, costing only around $1,600.00
>> when released a few months ago, is probably now worth over $100,000.00.
>>
>> https://physicalbitcoins.co.uk/product/kialara-2015-original-gold-silver-matched-pair-22
>>
>> I am glad to have invested in such a project not realizing the full
>> upward potential in a secondary market.
>>
>> It proves, once again, the real value of proper classification and
>> provenance otherwise this lunar material would have never been
>> considered for such a project.
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Not All Lunar Meteorites Are Equal

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Magic rocks 65M y.o. that cure diseases... what's not to believe?

By the way, I have a bridge for sale if anyone is interested.

-Michael in so. Cal.

On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 7:08 AM, Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
> Interesting if true David but in 20 years of collecting I've come across
> this scenario many times where "authorities" and people new to meteorites
> think they have unique material...always it has turned out to be wrong once
> the respected scientists who regularly work on meteorites get
> involvedgood luck though...always here to answer questions if
> possiblebe careful.
>
> On 8 Sep 2017 09:54, "Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list"
>  wrote:
>>
>> Then your guy is smoking some really good weed.:)
>>
>> These Chinese crack me up.
>>
>> Michael Farmer
>>
>> > On Sep 7, 2017, at 2:02 PM, David Tann  wrote:
>> >
>> > Mike, I didn't make it clear, a syndrome I suppose when you try to type
>> > a quick email on a crowded commuter train in the peak hours of the morning.
>> >
>> > I'm London based, new to meteorites collection as you would have
>> > gathered. This reliable source of mine in China has around 40kg Nantan
>> > amongst a few of his private collector friends. The rest of the 9.5 tons he
>> > claims were either with Chinese authorities (museums, unis and government
>> > run parks) or have been secretly traded abroad particularly in around 1985.
>> >
>> > The much bigger thing however is his claim of a massive amount of non
>> > magmatic meteorites embedded and intertwined in stones, even I know that
>> > would be something really big if proven genuine. They reckon, with
>> > archeologists and geologists' help, those meteorites were from Mars and
>> > crushed to earth 65m years ago! Needless to say, if this was true it would
>> > be something so astonishing that no one would have even dreamed of! The guy
>> > told me they spent over £1m to protect the secret site and transported the
>> > massive discovery to a private place in Beijing. They also used small
>> > samples of these as "medical stones" in treating some rare disease and
>> > apparently it worked!
>> >
>> > The reason I say he is reliable is that he is introduced to me by my
>> > best friend in China who is at the vice ministerial level, he would not
>> > introduce anyone doggy to me as a friend that's for sure. The guy himself
>> > also has other very high level connections. But of course the only sure way
>> > is to independently verify things, hence my approaching you guys in the
>> > first place.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> >
>> > David
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> >> On 7 Sep 2017, at 14:50, Michael Farmer  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Are you joking? There are tons upon tons of Nantan. I've sold nearly a
>> >> half a ton.
>> >> I have a 92 kilo one sitting in Beijing and much more sitting in
>> >> Tucson.
>> >>
>> >> Michael Farmer
>> >>
>> >>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 1:13 AM, David Tann  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks, Mike, I'd go even further in saying sadly 99% of the
>> >>> "meteorites" circulating freely in and from China  are terrestrial rocks!
>> >>> The real Nantan meteorites in private collection are extremely rare, a 
>> >>> total
>> >>> of around 40 kg. There is also a rarer type of meteorites intertwined 
>> >>> with
>> >>> and inserted into earth rocks indicating high impact crushing/explosion. 
>> >>> I'm
>> >>> happy to be proven wrong but as I said I have reasonable cause to 
>> >>> believe my
>> >>> source to be reliable and genuine, although it's going to take me 
>> >>> sometime
>> >>> to completely verify and document both types. I would naturally like to 
>> >>> have
>> >>> the samples tested. I was hoping you guys would be able to test and 
>> >>> analyse
>> >>> the composition of the samples for me, but I'll probably approach the
>> >>> Natural History Museum.
>> >>>
>> >>> Best,
>> >>>
>> >>> David
>> >>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>
>>  On 6 Sep 2017, at 20:47, Michael Farmer 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  David. Sorry but I do mineral shows in china. Everyone has a nice
>>  stamped paper from one Chinese government source or another. Actually 
>>  your
>>  piece certainly looks like Nantan meteorite. Sadly Nantan is nearly
>>  worthless.
>> 
>>  Michael Farmer
>> 
>> > On Sep 6, 2017, at 11:55 AM, David Tann  wrote:
>> >
>> > Thanks, Mike & Adam, for your valuable comments which I fully
>> > understand and much appreciate. Fake meteorites and scandalous traders 
>> > were
>> > indeed acknowledged as a big problem in China, much like elsewhere.
>> >
>> > I do however have reasonable confidence in the authenticity of the
>> > meteorites as they were from no ordinary tom dick and harry but a 
>> > trusted
>> > and reliable source with high level 

Re: [meteorite-list] Nininger's Meteorite Museum Ruins

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Hi, Karlis.  Unfortunately you cannot visit the site any longer,
however it is still visible from the gate on the road that leads to
Barringer crater.

I was fortunate to visit the old museum back in 2011 prior to the
property owner's closing the road:
http://mikestang.com/user/cimage/holbrook2011-02.JPG

If you're going all the way to Barringer crater you might as well
visit Holbrook, too, it's just a bit further down Interstate 40.

Michael in so. Cal.

On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 6:09 AM, Meteoriti.LV via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
> Dear Friends,
>
> Could somebody tell if that is possible and how to reach the Ruins of the
> old Nininger's Meteorite Museum? I heard that the road is closed but is
> there any way to visit a place?
>
> In a few weeks time we will visit US for the great Solar Eclipse and we have
> included Barringer crater in our car trip.
> I have never been there at the site so I would appreciate any advise.
> Thanks!
>
> Best Regards,
> Karlis Berzins
> Meteoriti.LV
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites360 - PULTUSK H5

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Fantastic results, truly spectacular!

Michael in so. Cal.

On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 7:29 AM, Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET via
Meteorite-list  wrote:
> Correct URLs
>
>
> METEORITES360° - PUŁTUSK Chondrite H5 - 1570 gram
> https://youtu.be/PoNZd22LBLY
>
> METEORITES360° - PUŁTUSK Chondrite H5 - 1514 gram
> https://youtu.be/mREkHgESkLQ
>
>
>> Dear Meteorite list
>> I continue my work with videos and meteorites. This time I can show You
>> two the same but how different specimens.
>> Both are Pultusk H5 fall from 30 january 1868 in Poland. Both are huge
>> one. They are first and second largest found in recent years. But they are
>> completly different. One is uncleaned and the other wone is cleaned.
>>
>> Compare all differences. Think about fact that someone who will see that
>> pretty black crusted meteorite in cabinet will never look to find that
>> orange colored rusty rock in the field. That's why I organized both
>> specimens for this purpose. More detailed explanation will be prepared in
>> polish language from my educational page www.meteoryty.pl
>>
>> Maybe these movies will help to reduce the number of granite stones
>> reported as meteorites.
>>
>> METEORITES360° - PUŁTUSK Chondrite H5 - 1570
>> gramhttps://youtu.be/PoNZd22LBLY
>>
>> METEORITES360° - PUŁTUSK Chondrite H5 - 1514
>> gramhttps://youtu.be/mREkHgESkLQ
>>
>> Please share, comment and wait for more
>>
>>
>> Special Thanks to Dave Gheesling and Łukas Smuła. You rock !
>>
>> -[ MARCIN CIMALA ][ +48 793567667 ]-
>> http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
>> http://www.PolandMET.com   marcin(at)polandmet.com
>> [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]
>>
>>
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Re: [meteorite-list] new find- Phoenix

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Larry, he found it on Friday April 7.  No April fools here!  He's
hoping to get it classified and published in the MetBul.

Michael in so. Cal.

On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 7:59 PM, Larry Atkins <alienrockf...@aol.com> wrote:
> Hey Michael,
> Did your friend also find his on Saturday, April 1?
> Larry
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list
> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> To: Meteorite List <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Sun, Apr 9, 2017 12:21 pm
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] new find- Phoenix
>
> Great find, wow! My friend made a cold find as well, on a dry lake
> none-the-less. I don't think he posts to the metlist, but when there
> are pictures to share I will pass them along.
>
> Michael in so. Cal.
>
> On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 4:53 PM, printstodd--- via Meteorite-list
> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>> Found this 204 gram specimen last Saturday.
>>
>> https://scontent.fphx1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17634375_1627245220637972_1277536653967456842_n.jpg?oh=f939ced1d4a403d446e9a870ad8141b1=595596C2
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Re: [meteorite-list] new find- Phoenix

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

 Great find, wow!  My friend made a cold find as well, on a dry lake
none-the-less.  I don't think he posts to the metlist, but when there
are pictures to share I will pass them along.

Michael in so. Cal.

On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 4:53 PM, printstodd--- via Meteorite-list
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> Found this 204 gram specimen last Saturday.
> https://scontent.fphx1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17634375_1627245220637972_1277536653967456842_n.jpg?oh=f939ced1d4a403d446e9a870ad8141b1=595596C2
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Re: [meteorite-list] Sad News :-(

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

I can't say that I knew him, but I can say that I met him on a few
occasions and he was a gift to the meteorite community. RIP

Michael in so. Cal.

On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 9:31 AM, KD Meteorites via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
> I'm sad to tell everyone that we lost one of the best men I ever met; Larry 
> Sloan. He was a very well respected and loved man, always ready with a smile 
> and some of his natural remedies! He loved everything meteorite and will be 
> missed greatly at the shows.
>
> After I lost my dad in 2006 Larry stepped up and became my second Dad; and he 
> was always there with a smile and some advice.
>
> The shows will be a little sadder without his smiling face but I'm sure he 
> will do his best to send down some Meteorites from heaven just to keep us on 
> our toes! :-)
>
> Please send your thoughts and prayers to his family during this difficult 
> time.
>
> Thank you
> Dana
>
> Meteorite Lady Rocks!
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Re: [meteorite-list] Hunting Arizona's Newest Strewn Field

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Great looking stones, I hope this strewn field turns out to be one
that produces for many, many years!  Looking forward to the
classification and getting out there myself.  So much terrain like
that in AZ, every time I drive through the state I want to stop and
cold hunt just about everywhere.

Michael in so. Cal.

On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 10:03 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
> My friend Myke Steighler recently found some really fresh looking
> (probably L) chondrite meteorites in Northwest Arizona.
>
> Today he invited Dustin Dickens and Myself to hunt what we believe is
> Arizona's Newest Strewn field.
>
> Unfortunately, I can not divulge the exact location until the
> classification process is completed.
>
> However, here are some photos of our hunt and some of Myke's amazing finds.
>
> http://www.mrmeteorite.com/arizona-s-newest-strewnfield
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Rock On!
>
> Ruben Garcia
> http://www.MrMeteorite.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] WR Gallery Delay – U.S. World Record Mars Meteorite Discovery

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

You want disrespectful,
Glyn-who-can't-even-set-up-his-own-email-account?  Try this on for
size:
Fuck off.

Michael in so. Cal.

On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 4:29 PM, Ann Cain via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
> John A. Shea,
>
>
> That email was sent to me privately and I responded privately and only to 
> those members that Jason Utas originally sent it to. I gave Jason Utas the 
> right to go public and debate the meteoritic topics/ issues only if he wanted 
> to do so.
>
> What you did was very disrespectful.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> Glyn Howard
>
> (Yes, I use the account my sister Ann Cain set-up here on the Meteorite List 
> for me. We share the account.)
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Outlook
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Meteorite-list  on behalf 
> of Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 5:43 PM
> To: Art Jones; metlist
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] WR Gallery Delay – U.S. World Record Mars 
> Meteorite Discovery
>
> To the Metlist Admin(s),
>
> With respect, why are these people (Ann Cain, Glyn Howard) not blocked from 
> the metlist yet?
>
> This is clearly a scam, or the work of foolish people who refuse to listen to 
> reason. Either way, we should not all be forced to receive their emails for 
> years on end when they are clearly not representing an actual interest of any 
> kind in meteoritics.
>
> In order to protect the integrity of the Metlist as a valuable resource to 
> the meteorite community, I respectfully request that you remove any emails 
> associated with Ann Cain and Glyn Howard from the metlist.
>
> Sincerely,
> John A. Shea MD
> IMCA 3295
>
>
>
> Sent using the mail.com mail app
>
> On 7/30/16 at 4:24 PM, Ann Cain wrote:
>
>> Jason,
>>
>>
>> I haven't checked this email account in many months. It's now summer time 
>> and I have time to respond respectfully and I will do so.
>>
>>
>> Why not discuss this in public openly? Post your original email to me on the 
>> Meteorite List and I will address all your concerns one by one openly and 
>> publicly, and we will debate it.
>>
>>
>> I can say you are wrong and I can prove it.
>>
>>
>>
>> I haven't embarrassed anyone. I've been very respectful. I have a right to 
>> disagree, as do you, and to provide the evidence.
>>
>>
>>
>> You do not know the background history of this discovery. You do not know 
>> the several very well known (famous even) meteoriticists involved, who also 
>> know the truth. As well, a very well known (famous) thin-section technician 
>> who knows and does brilliant  work. Anne knows him very well. The thin 
>> section technician wants to stay out of the fray, he's done nothing wrong 
>> and has been very honorable and very professional the entire time working 
>> with me. I would like to continue using his very professional services.  
>> He's a great guy. Professional. Straight up.
>>
>>
>> But you should also know Scientists are human and have human feelings, and 
>> failings, and competition and professional jealousy can and does occur in 
>> science. I provided a link in the Meteorite List discussion for such a study 
>> that validates that it does indeed  happen at times in science.
>>
>>
>> We are talking about a few scientists in the meteoritics world, not more. 
>> They know who they are. I know them and they know me. I know what happened 
>> when we met, I know what they did. I have all the emails for our 
>> communications. I can instantly prove they  misrepresented the truth and did 
>> so purposefully. It's called "stone-walling" among other things. When I told 
>> them I wouldn't tell them the discovery site until contracts "with the 
>> powers that be" were agreed to, then all kinds of purposeful misinformation  
>> and misrepresentation on their part occurred towards me. That is unethical 
>> and unprofessional behavior. I already knew they were meteorites before 
>> coming to them for their services. I already knew they were achondrites. I 
>> did not know how to prove the Parent  Body at the time. But I can do all of 
>> that now. Now I have that knowledge.  It is not my intention to embarrass 
>> anyone publicly. I want them to admit their unprofessional behavior 
>> privately to me and admit their mistakes. The matter between us will be over 
>>  without the community ever knowing the embarrassing history or their 
>> identity. I'm a forgiving person.
>>
>>
>> By the way, I worked with many geologists, analysts, and a very well known 
>> private petrology whole rock analysis company with a science research 
>> department with a long experience in meteorite analysis, all who didn't play 
>> any unethical games or act unprofessionally  that helped and guided me at 
>> key moments in my study. To them I'm very grateful and in time they will get 
>> their due credit when the story can go completely public.
>>
>>
>> The discovery is what it is. You are wrong. I can prove it. 

Re: [meteorite-list] age of meteorites

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

No meteoroid body travels anywhere near "a subtantual [sic] percentage
of the speed of light".  Although their relative ages will be
different based on Einstein's theory, their practical age is
realistically unaffected I would think.

Michael in so. Cal.

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 3:11 PM, Pete Shugar via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
> greetings to all,
> my background is in electronics. everything deals with either C or C2.
> Einstein states that nothing goes faster than the speed of light and
> that as you approach the speed of light, things get older slower.
> So this meteorite in it's travels is going at a rate that is a
> subtantual percentage of the speed of light. Has anyone taken this into
> consideration when placing an age on the meteorite?
> Just a thought to tickle the old brain cells!!
> Pete Shugar
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Re: [meteorite-list] Possible meteorite trades

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

I collect beautiful friends and wonderful experiences.

Michael in so. Cal.

On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 10:31 AM, Greg Frazier via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
> Greetings ET & Friends,
> In addition to rocks from space, I also collect components from historic
> flying machines.  This includes pieces made by Orville and Wilbur up to the
> Space Shuttle and beyond!  Flown Apollo components make lovely meteorite
> display stands by the way!  ET I have a special place in my collection for
> the olive-green moldavite I purchased from you in Costa Mesa back in the
> early '90's.  I think I will perch it atop a Saturn V component later today!
>
> RGF
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Gary Fujihara via Meteorite-list 
> To: Edwin Thompson 
> Cc: MeteorList 
> Sent: Tue, Jul 5, 2016 10:07 am
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Possible meteorite trades
>
> Aloha Edwin and all, I collect guitars and amplifiers. I didn’t start out to
> do so, but in 1972 after working three summers at a pineapple cannery as a
> teen, purchased my first guitar ‘Mabel’, a 1972 Gibson Les Paul Deluxe.
> Forty four years later, the passion is still hot and still have Mabel in my
> stable. The best part is that besides looking good, they all make a joyful
> noise when I fondle them (which cannot be said for the meteorites in my
> collection). g > On Jul 3, 2016, at 8:01 PM, Edwin Thompson via
> Meteorite-list  wrote: > > Hello to all
> list members, > I am reaching out to the farthest corners of the known world
> to appeal to any and all collectors. > Having dealt in and collected
> meteorites, tektites and related books since I was just a kid, collecting
> all kinds of rocks which included a few cherished meteorites as early as the
> age of six, life has been blessed with lots of treasured finds. By the age
> of nine my parents allowed me to go off on summer long geology exploring
> science camp trips with older kids. For three years this was how I spent my
> summers, digging in fossil beds and agate beds all across the Northwest,
> areas that have been closed to this sort of activity since the mid to late
> sixties. At age seven I joined the Oregon Archaeological Society and at age
> fourteen I was given the privilege of being a dig site foreman for a
> Scappoose Indian housing and burial site before it was built into the now
> dismantled Trojan Nuclear Energy Power Plant along the banks of the mighty
> Columbia river near my home here in Oregon. Over time, life has changed and
> my interests have changed with the exception of a few common threads. One >
> of them being that rocks from Space are the coolest of all rocks! > Many of
> you know that from 1987 until 2002 I displayed and sold meteorites, fossils
> and artifacts at roughly 48 gem and mineral shows each year around the
> western United States. > During those wonderful years of travel both here
> and abroad, I had the joy and pleasure (and still do) of meeting collectors
> and seeing their amazing collections. What I have seen and I am sure that
> many of you can relate to this, is that most of us who collect rocks from
> Space, also collect other things. I have seen a collection of antique
> surfboards, a huge collection of ancient suits of armor, cannons, guns,
> diamonds, polished stone spheres, stamps, coins (I think coins are how
> Michael Casper made his fortune! Good for him!). I've seen amazing
> collections of fossils, minerals and gem stones in private homes and on and
> on. > Long story made shorter, I stopped collecting these beloved meteorites
> when I formally started selling them back in 87'. I have learned that this
> might have been a huge mistake but it's the choice I felt I needed to make
> in order to pay the bills and to remain competitive in an ever shrinking
> world market. But, the collecting bug never went away, it just changed shape
> and theme. > > Here is the pitch; about 1990 I started collecting antique
> handmade glass marbles. These gorgeous, colorful treasures were made by
> glass workers in the Lauscha region of East Germany from approximately 1880
> until 1920. They are rare and hard to find. I have amassed a large
> collection and yet am always searching for more. I would be delighted to
> trade meteorites, tektites or books, even art, rare wine or cashy money for
> any number of these marbles. > If you are a marble collector then I would
> enjoy talking with you about your collection and collecting direction.
> Recently Patrick got infected by this same obsession and he is an avid
> collector of the more recent machine made marbles from as early as the
> 1920's and 30's and later. If you just want to talk marbles please drop me a
> line. If you know someone with marbles to sell or if you have some yourself,
> please give me a chance to make an offer. > > > On a less 

Re: [meteorite-list] DMV FIREBALL ALERT

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Been to hell I spell it DMV.
https://youtu.be/nWvU4lY7yKI

Michael in so. Cal

On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 7:46 AM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks via
Meteorite-list  wrote:

> A fireball at the Division of Motor Vehicles?  Awesome!   ;)
>
>
>
> On 6/7/16, Greg Redfern via Meteorite-list
>  wrote:
> > A  BRIGHT (-8+ magnitude) greenish-white fireball was seen in the SE from
> > Central VA at 8:55 pm EDT. There w two terminal bursts (no sound)  at the
> > end of flight that probably resulted in meteorites on the ground or in
> the
> > Atlantic. The fireball passed below Mars and was heading in a diagonal
> > downward direction to the horizon.I'll gather more details for my
> official
> > report.
> >
> > Please tell anyone who saw it to report their observations to American
> > Meteor Society. 
> >
> > I'd appreciate any reports as well.
> >
> > Sky Guy Greg
> >
> > Greg Redfern
> > NASA JPL Solar System Ambassador <
> http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/ssa/home.cfm>
> > Daily Blog 
> > Twitter 
> > WTOP 
> >
>
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] WR Gallery Delay – U.S. World Record Mars Meteorite Discovery

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

https://youtu.be/oVnuFY20st0?t=4s

There's a lot of people that need help in believing with bullshit.

Michael in so. Cal.

On Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Martin Goff via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
> Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Lol :-)
>
> There are loads of great people involved with meteorites but there are
> also some complete and utter loons attracted to our
> community...
>
> If only the below was actually meant to be funny
>
> Cheers
>
> Martin
>
> On 23/04/2016, Ann Cain via Meteorite-list
>  wrote:
>> Meteorite List,
>>
>> I would like to apologize for not having The Gallery of World Record Mars
>> Meteorites, from the US World Record Mars Meteorite Discovery, ready and up
>> for viewing for this Passover 4-23-16, as I said I would. Things have been
>> very busy this school year. However, this summer I will finish. I now intend
>> to have it ready on Rosh Hashanah 5777 AD/CE, (October 3-4, 2016), and I’m
>> hoping a 3rd PR can be released at that time in addition.
>>
>>
>> Rosh Hashanah 5777 AD/CE should be a good year of blessings, and I’m looking
>> forward to a new U.S. administration.
>>
>>
>>
>> Shalom,
>>
>>
>> Glyn Howard
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The Gallery of US World Record Mars Meteorite specimens:
>> http://gfoundit-mars.com/GalleryOfImages.html
>>
>>
>> The Evidence for GSA and GSB Mars Meteorites and Relevant Essays and
>> Articles
>> http://gfoundit-mars.com/TheEvidence.html
>>
>>
>> The Evidence - G Found It - US World Record Mars Meteorite Discovery
>> http://www.einpresswire.com/article/225047567/the-evidence-g-found-it-us-world-record-mars-meteorite-discovery
>>
>>
>> G Found It - U.S. World Record Mars Meteorite Discovery
>> http://www.gfoundit-mars.com/
>>
>>
>> G Found It – U.S. World Record Mars Meteorite Discovery
>> http://www.einpresswire.com/article/143477981/g-found-it-u-s-world-record-mars-meteorite-discovery
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Recall: Both my sister Ann Cain (who opened the email account) and I, Glyn
>> Howard, use the same email account …
>> Ann Cain, Glyn Howard
>> gfndit(at)hotmail.com
>>
>>
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Re: [meteorite-list] 2nd recovered U.S. fall of 2016

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Great news, congrats to all who made it happen!

Michael in so. Cal.

On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 1:27 AM, Rob Matson via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
> [Resending from a different account since the first attempt has not
> shown up. Apologies if this turns out to be a repeat...]
>
> Hi All,
>
> Just want to report that the west Texas bolide that occurred one week
> ago on the evening of 17 February 2016 is officially a fall: the second
> successful radar-enabled recovery of 2016 (following Osceola, Florida)
> as well as Texas' second Doppler-cued recovery (the first of course
> being Ash Creek almost exactly seven years ago). Congratulations to
> the persistent meteorite recovery team who walked the many miles to
> make this another success story! --Rob
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] President Obama Places Over 265 Million Acres Of Land Off-limits

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Yup, I have written to the Feinstein camp many times over the years
in opposition of Sand to Snow, Mojave Trail, and Castle Mountains as
National Monuments.  The real issues had nothing to do with
"preservation", but that's how it was spun to the general public.  Of
course, who's going to argue with that?

If George Carlin taught me anything it was to never trust anything
your government tells you, ever.  All you will find about these new
monuments is positive press, the truths spoken at every single public
hearing have been buried and forgotten.  If you have "blm" in your
search, such as a Google search for "ca new blm land news" you won't
find a single link related to this. It's a bunch of horseshit.

This is my backyard, well it was anyway.  The 4x4 groups that get
slandered in the press did more in the name of conservation and
preservation than the BLM ever did and ever will.

-Michael in so. Cal.

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 8:25 PM, Dennis Miller via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
>
> This recent land grab is courtesy of California Senator Dianne Feinstein.  82 
> year old
> Senator who hates energy, peoples freedoms, and too few regulations on 
> everything!
>
> Sent from my iPad
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Re: [meteorite-list] SPACE ROCKS MAGAZINE

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Michael,

It is possible to purchase from a source that I do not have to create
an account and sign up to use?

Thanks,
Michael in so. Cal.

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 3:07 PM, Michael Johnson via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
> Hi, I'm still getting questions where to order the February 2016 issue of
> SPACE ROCKS MAGAZINE so here again is the link. If you would like to submit
> an article, ad, or have any questions please contact me at the following
> address:
> spacerocksmagaz...@gmail.com
>
> http://www.blurb.com/b/6862308-space-rocks
>
>
> Regards,
> Michael Johnson
> Editor-in-Chief
> SPACE ROCKS MAGAZINE
> Sent from my iPhone6
>
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] MBIQ Detects California Meteor 0640 PST 11FEB2016

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Unfortunately it appears that if anything did make it to the ground it
landed in the Pacific Ocean.

Michael in so. Cal.

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 2:21 PM, drtanuki via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
> List,
>
> MBIQ Detects California Meteor 0640 PST 11FEB2016
> http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2016/02/mbiq-detects-california-meteor-11feb2016.html
>
>  Dirk Ross...Tokyo The Latest Worldwide Meteor/Meteorite News 
> http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/
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Re: [meteorite-list] Bob's new Indian Butte find

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

I had the opportunity to meet Bob in Tucson this weekend and I got to
hold that find in my hands, it's an awesome stone.

Congrats, Bob!


-Michael in so. Cal.

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 6:12 PM, wahlperry--- via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
> Hi List ,
>
> For those of you not on Facebook here is a link to Bob Grueneberg's recent 
> Indian Butte find.
>
> Sonny
>
> http://www.nevadameteorites.com/nevadameteorites/New_Az_Metorite_Sonny_Clary_page_4.html
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[meteorite-list] Marissa F. in Tucson 2016

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

I wanted to thank everyone who made Marissa's Tucson trip such a positive
and uplifting experience.  You all cannot know what this trip meant to her
and how these memories will be carried close to her heart for the rest of
her life. So many people gave not only valuable meteorites to her (you know
who you are!), but even more invaluable is the time and conversations that
were shared.  Much like her first meteorite hunt, her first Tucson trip has
been, literally, a life changing experience. I truly hope she gets to come
again.

My most sincerest thank you, I am honored and it is my privilege to be part
of such an excellent community.

Michael in so. Cal.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Case study: Lake Eyre meteorite vs. U.S.

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Except that there are no laws concerning meteorites and the infamous
"BLM order" expired Sep. 30, 2013.

Like Larry wrote previously, the permit and the process was a joke - a
series of hoops to be jumped through and when I got to the last hoop
they kept moving it further away.  I don't think they expected anyone
to even make it as far as I did.

We don't need to worry about the first American Lunar, it will 100% be
found on private property.

-Michael in so. Cal.

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
>
> I agree with what you said about the laws not being enforced but they are 
> still on the books and most likely will never come off.  I have not been 
> hassled recently and the last time was in the same period as Met-Men. 
> Apparently the BLM thought meteorites were lying around like Easter eggs and 
> people were becoming rich from them so they needed more laws to protect 
> people from making any form of profit.  There is also no statue of 
> limitations on federal laws so when somebody finds that North American Lunar, 
> they can go back in time to bolster their case.
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Larry Atkins" 
> To: ; 
> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 8:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Case study: Lake Eyre meteorite vs. U.S.
>
>
> Hi Adam,
>
> What I said is true. Unenforced laws are meaningless. A warning or whatever. 
> really doesn't add up to anything of substance, and without actual charges or 
> at least a ticket, it's just words.
>
> I'm guessing, only guessing, the incidents you mentioned happened during, or 
> just after the peak of the" Met Men" series, when the BLM was on a mission to 
> keep us from making all that 'easy money'. I'd bet those same officers 
> watching eBay have tired of the activity and moved on to bigger fish long 
> ago. Not much to get uptight about on eBay regarding American meteorites 
> "poached" from state or federal land. It wouldn't take long for them to 
> figure out that monitoring eBay is a nonstarter, not enough money to merit 
> the effort. The crater is the exception but that's a whole other topic.
>
> I spend a lot of time in the field, thousands of hours, and I have hard core 
> meteorite hunting buddies pounding the ground for thousands of hours per year 
> without incident. Every single officer I've come into contact with was aware 
> of what I was doing and never once have I had an issue. Some day if we ever  
> get together we can share some stories.
>
> As far as artifacts and fossils go you are correct, but only to a point. You 
> can surface collect in most areas as far as I know. I can pick up fossils all 
> day long, no one cares until I find 'Sue'. The same will hold true for 
> meteorites, no one is gonna care until I recover the first North American 
> Lunar.
>
> The heat has cooled off. Relax,, Smile and go find some rocks bro. : )
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Larry Atkins
>
> IMCA # 1941
> Ebay alienrockfarm
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list 
> To: meteorite-list 
> Sent: Mon, Jan 18, 2016 7:02 pm
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Case study: Lake Eyre meteorite vs. U.S.
>
> I wish what you said was true.  Our entire group was hassled around the
> Pahrump area in Nevada and twice in California.  Eight of our team members
> were threatened (warned) and I know others on the List who have been hassled
> as well.  Two agents based out Barstow went as far as saying they know what
> is being sold on eBay.  We were told that some public land is designated as
> heritage or areas of areas of critical concern which are completely off
> limits while metal detectors cannot be used in other areas.  I cannot find
> any source which lists these areas so an agent can determine this in field
> so be careful.  Just ask artifact and fossils hunters what happened with
> their once-fine avocation including the fellow who found "Sue" the dinosaur.
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Larry Atkins" 
> To: ; 
> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 4:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Case study: Lake Eyre meteorite vs. U.S.
>
>
> Hi Adam, All,
>
> This may be true but it is very rarely if ever enforced, rendering the laws
> meaningless. BLM got all excited a couple years ago but it came to nothing,
> ask Michael Mulgrew how his application went. It's a joke. The people
> enforcing the laws of our wild lands have better things to do than hassle
> rock hounds. In my sixteen years of hunting and occasional selling I've
> never heard of, or experienced trouble. In fact, I've encountered law
> enforcement of all types while in the field, told them exactly what I was
> doing, talked money 

Re: [meteorite-list] Case study: Lake Eyre meteorite vs. U.S.

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Not a law.  Thank you.

-Michael in so. Cal.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
> Exact wording from BLM website:
>
>
>
> Those interested should contact the appropriate BLM office to learn details
> for their area of interest.
>
>
>
> Can meteorites casually collected from public lands be bartered or sold?
>
>
>
> Casual collection of meteorites from public lands is only for an
> individual's personal use. Sale or barter is considered commercial use.  A
> permit must be issued for commercial activities and fees will be collected,
> including a purchase price based on a unit price or the percentage of fair
> market value, and a reclamation fee, if required.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Michael Mulgrew" 
> To: "Raremeteorites" 
> Cc: "Meteorite List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Case study: Lake Eyre meteorite vs. U.S.
>
>
>> Adam,
>>
>> Please cite me (and the rest of the list) the law by order and
>> section.  "I saw it in a book" doesn't mean jack or shit to me.
>>
>> -Michael in so. Cal.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> A federal law is on the books about meteorites found on public land are
>>> not
>>> to used for commercial purposes.  A BLM agent working the Pahrump, Nevada
>>> area showed us this law in a book he pulled from his truck in the field
>>> after Guido Diero asked to see the laws governing meteorites.  This is
>>> after
>>> the agent questioned our team members individually to try and catch us
>>> with
>>> leading questions like "how much are they worth?, how many have you
>>> sold?"
>>> and so on.  Our team individually answered appropriately that they have
>>> no
>>> commercial value whatsoever since they cannot be sold and that the real
>>> value is scientific.
>>>
>>> Future generations may remember our generation as the one that screwed
>>> everything up by publicly placing a monetary value on meteorites and
>>> attracting the attention of unelected federal and state lawmakers.  The
>>> Great Late Richard Norton warned this would happen decades ago.
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message - From: "Michael Mulgrew"
>>> 
>>> To: "Raremeteorites" 
>>> Cc: "Meteorite List" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 9:55 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Case study: Lake Eyre meteorite vs. U.S.
>>>
>>>
>>> Except that there are no laws concerning meteorites and the infamous
>>> "BLM order" expired Sep. 30, 2013.
>>>
>>> Like Larry wrote previously, the permit and the process was a joke - a
>>> series of hoops to be jumped through and when I got to the last hoop
>>> they kept moving it further away.  I don't think they expected anyone
>>> to even make it as far as I did.
>>>
>>> We don't need to worry about the first American Lunar, it will 100% be
>>> found on private property.
>>>
>>> -Michael in so. Cal.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
>>>  wrote:



 I agree with what you said about the laws not being enforced but they
 are
 still on the books and most likely will never come off.  I have not been
 hassled recently and the last time was in the same period as Met-Men.
 Apparently the BLM thought meteorites were lying around like Easter eggs
 and
 people were becoming rich from them so they needed more laws to protect
 people from making any form of profit.  There is also no statue of
 limitations on federal laws so when somebody finds that North American
 Lunar, they can go back in time to bolster their case.


 - Original Message - From: "Larry Atkins" 
 To: ;
 
 Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 8:22 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Case study: Lake Eyre meteorite vs. U.S.


 Hi Adam,

 What I said is true. Unenforced laws are meaningless. A warning or
 whatever. really doesn't add up to anything of substance, and without
 actual
 charges or at least a ticket, it's just words.

 I'm guessing, only guessing, the incidents you mentioned happened
 during,
 or just after the peak of the" Met Men" series, when the BLM was on a
 mission to keep us from making all that 'easy money'. I'd bet those same
 officers watching eBay have tired of the activity and moved on to bigger
 fish long ago. Not much to get uptight about on eBay regarding American
 meteorites "poached" from state or federal land. It wouldn't take long
 for
 them to figure 

Re: [meteorite-list] Case study: Lake Eyre meteorite vs. U.S.

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Adam,

Please cite me (and the rest of the list) the law by order and
section.  "I saw it in a book" doesn't mean jack or shit to me.

-Michael in so. Cal.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
> A federal law is on the books about meteorites found on public land are not
> to used for commercial purposes.  A BLM agent working the Pahrump, Nevada
> area showed us this law in a book he pulled from his truck in the field
> after Guido Diero asked to see the laws governing meteorites.  This is after
> the agent questioned our team members individually to try and catch us with
> leading questions like "how much are they worth?, how many have you sold?"
> and so on.  Our team individually answered appropriately that they have no
> commercial value whatsoever since they cannot be sold and that the real
> value is scientific.
>
> Future generations may remember our generation as the one that screwed
> everything up by publicly placing a monetary value on meteorites and
> attracting the attention of unelected federal and state lawmakers.  The
> Great Late Richard Norton warned this would happen decades ago.
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Michael Mulgrew" 
> To: "Raremeteorites" 
> Cc: "Meteorite List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 9:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Case study: Lake Eyre meteorite vs. U.S.
>
>
> Except that there are no laws concerning meteorites and the infamous
> "BLM order" expired Sep. 30, 2013.
>
> Like Larry wrote previously, the permit and the process was a joke - a
> series of hoops to be jumped through and when I got to the last hoop
> they kept moving it further away.  I don't think they expected anyone
> to even make it as far as I did.
>
> We don't need to worry about the first American Lunar, it will 100% be
> found on private property.
>
> -Michael in so. Cal.
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
>  wrote:
>>
>>
>> I agree with what you said about the laws not being enforced but they are
>> still on the books and most likely will never come off.  I have not been
>> hassled recently and the last time was in the same period as Met-Men.
>> Apparently the BLM thought meteorites were lying around like Easter eggs and
>> people were becoming rich from them so they needed more laws to protect
>> people from making any form of profit.  There is also no statue of
>> limitations on federal laws so when somebody finds that North American
>> Lunar, they can go back in time to bolster their case.
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Larry Atkins" 
>> To: ;
>> 
>> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 8:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Case study: Lake Eyre meteorite vs. U.S.
>>
>>
>> Hi Adam,
>>
>> What I said is true. Unenforced laws are meaningless. A warning or
>> whatever. really doesn't add up to anything of substance, and without actual
>> charges or at least a ticket, it's just words.
>>
>> I'm guessing, only guessing, the incidents you mentioned happened during,
>> or just after the peak of the" Met Men" series, when the BLM was on a
>> mission to keep us from making all that 'easy money'. I'd bet those same
>> officers watching eBay have tired of the activity and moved on to bigger
>> fish long ago. Not much to get uptight about on eBay regarding American
>> meteorites "poached" from state or federal land. It wouldn't take long for
>> them to figure out that monitoring eBay is a nonstarter, not enough money to
>> merit the effort. The crater is the exception but that's a whole other
>> topic.
>>
>> I spend a lot of time in the field, thousands of hours, and I have hard
>> core meteorite hunting buddies pounding the ground for thousands of hours
>> per year without incident. Every single officer I've come into contact with
>> was aware of what I was doing and never once have I had an issue. Some day
>> if we ever  get together we can share some stories.
>>
>> As far as artifacts and fossils go you are correct, but only to a point.
>> You can surface collect in most areas as far as I know. I can pick up
>> fossils all day long, no one cares until I find 'Sue'. The same will hold
>> true for meteorites, no one is gonna care until I recover the first North
>> American Lunar.
>>
>> The heat has cooled off. Relax,, Smile and go find some rocks bro. : )
>>
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Larry Atkins
>>
>> IMCA # 1941
>> Ebay alienrockfarm
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
>> 
>> To: meteorite-list 
>> Sent: Mon, Jan 18, 2016 7:02 pm
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Case study: Lake Eyre meteorite vs. U.S.
>>
>> I wish 

Re: [meteorite-list] Case study: Lake Eyre meteorite vs. U.S.

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Then cite me title and section of the CFR that deals with meteorites.

Michael in so. Cal.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
> Federal rules and regulations are laws.
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Michael Mulgrew" 
> To: "Raremeteorites" 
> Cc: "Meteorite List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 12:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Case study: Lake Eyre meteorite vs. U.S.
>
>
>> Not a law.  Thank you.
>>
>> -Michael in so. Cal.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Exact wording from BLM website:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Those interested should contact the appropriate BLM office to learn
>>> details
>>> for their area of interest.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Can meteorites casually collected from public lands be bartered or sold?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Casual collection of meteorites from public lands is only for an
>>> individual's personal use. Sale or barter is considered commercial use. A
>>> permit must be issued for commercial activities and fees will be
>>> collected,
>>> including a purchase price based on a unit price or the percentage of
>>> fair
>>> market value, and a reclamation fee, if required.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message - From: "Michael Mulgrew"
>>> 
>>> To: "Raremeteorites" 
>>> Cc: "Meteorite List" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:45 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Case study: Lake Eyre meteorite vs. U.S.
>>>
>>>
 Adam,

 Please cite me (and the rest of the list) the law by order and
 section.  "I saw it in a book" doesn't mean jack or shit to me.

 -Michael in so. Cal.

 On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
  wrote:
>
>
> A federal law is on the books about meteorites found on public land are
> not
> to used for commercial purposes.  A BLM agent working the Pahrump,
> Nevada
> area showed us this law in a book he pulled from his truck in the field
> after Guido Diero asked to see the laws governing meteorites.  This is
> after
> the agent questioned our team members individually to try and catch us
> with
> leading questions like "how much are they worth?, how many have you
> sold?"
> and so on.  Our team individually answered appropriately that they have
> no
> commercial value whatsoever since they cannot be sold and that the real
> value is scientific.
>
> Future generations may remember our generation as the one that screwed
> everything up by publicly placing a monetary value on meteorites and
> attracting the attention of unelected federal and state lawmakers.  The
> Great Late Richard Norton warned this would happen decades ago.
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Michael Mulgrew"
> 
> To: "Raremeteorites" 
> Cc: "Meteorite List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 9:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Case study: Lake Eyre meteorite vs. U.S.
>
>
> Except that there are no laws concerning meteorites and the infamous
> "BLM order" expired Sep. 30, 2013.
>
> Like Larry wrote previously, the permit and the process was a joke - a
> series of hoops to be jumped through and when I got to the last hoop
> they kept moving it further away.  I don't think they expected anyone
> to even make it as far as I did.
>
> We don't need to worry about the first American Lunar, it will 100% be
> found on private property.
>
> -Michael in so. Cal.
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
>  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I agree with what you said about the laws not being enforced but they
>> are
>> still on the books and most likely will never come off.  I have not
>> been
>> hassled recently and the last time was in the same period as Met-Men.
>> Apparently the BLM thought meteorites were lying around like Easter
>> eggs
>> and
>> people were becoming rich from them so they needed more laws to
>> protect
>> people from making any form of profit.  There is also no statue of
>> limitations on federal laws so when somebody finds that North American
>> Lunar, they can go back in time to bolster their case.
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Larry Atkins" 
>> To: ;
>> 

Re: [meteorite-list] Happy New Year to the World

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Not quite everyone everywhere, John.  It's often easy to assume the
whole world does everything like we do, but there are a multitude of
cultures and belief systems to take into account.  Here's a small list
of countries and people who do not follow the Gregorian New Year (from
wikipedia):

Ethiopian New Year called Enkutatash. It is celebrated on September 11
(September 12 in leap years).

The Odunde Festival is also called the "African New Year" is
celebrated in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania in the United States on the
second Sunday of June.

Cambodian New Year (Chaul Chnam Thmey) is celebrated on April 13 or April 14.

Chinese New Year is celebrated in many countries around the world. It
is the first day of the lunar calendar and is corrected for the solar
every three years.

Korean New Year, called Seollal, is the first day of the lunar calendar.

Thai New Year is celebrated on April 13 or April 14 and is called
Songkran in the local language.

Vietnamese New Year normally falls between 20 January and 20 February.

In the Gwaun Valley, Pembrokeshire, Wales the new year is celebrated
on January 13, based on the Julian calendar.

Hijri New Year in the Islamic culture is also known as Islamic new
year is the day that marks the beginning of a new Islamic calendar
year. New Year moves from year to year because the Islamic calendar is
a lunar calendar.

Nowruz marks the first day of spring and the beginning of the year in
Iranian calendar. It is celebrated on the day of the astronomical
vernal equinox.
Rosh Hashanah, the Jewish new year, falls during September or October.

Hindu in Assam, Bengal, Kerala, Nepal, Orissa, Punjab and Tamil Nadu
celebrate the new year when the Sun enters Aries on the Hindu
calendar. This is normally on April 14 or April 15.

Unlike most other calendar systems in India, the New Year's Day on the
Malayalam Calendar is not based on any astronomical event. It is just
the first day of the first of the twelve months on the Malayalam
Calendar.

The Sikh New Year is celebrated as per the Nanakshahi calendar. The
epoch of this calendar is the birth of the first Sikh Guru, Guru Nanak
in 1469. New Year's Day falls annually on what is March 14 in the
Gregorian Western calendar.

Sinhalese New Year is celebrated in Sri Lankan culture predominantly
by the Sri Lankan Sinhalese, while the Tamil New Year on the same day
is celebrated by Sri Lankan Tamils. The Sinhalese New Year marks the
end of harvest season, by the month of Bak (April) between April 13
and April 14.

Telugu New Year (Ugadi), Kannada New Year (Yugadi) is celebrated in
March (generally), April (occasionally).


Globally yours,
Michael in so. Cal.

Hippy Nude Year!

On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 9:28 AM, John Lutzon via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
> Everyone, Everywhere,
>
> Happy New Year !!!
>
> Happiness and Good Health to everyone.
>
> John Lutzon
> IMCA#1896
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Re: [meteorite-list] Key Capital Announces Major Potential Meteorite Mining Opportunity Joint Ventured

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

I was under the impression that ALL orebodies in the Earth's crust are
of meteoritic origin from the late heavy bombardment since all metals
consolidated in the Earth's core when it was a molten body.

Sounds fishy to me, too.

Michael in so. Cal.

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Matson, Rob D. via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
> Hi Larry,
>
> It all sounds very fishy to me:
>
> "The orebody located on the property is well known as a magnetite resource 
> having been the
> subject of extensive historic exploration since the 1960s. In recent years, 
> through identification
> of extraordinary high-grade iridium in samples, it became evident that a 
> significant part of the
> orebody on the property is of meteorite origin, and it was established that 
> the orebody
> presented major potential for precious metals and PGMs."
>
> As you point out, they later claim achondrite, thus ruling out Meteor Crater 
> as the "orebody"
> source. Given that achondrites derive from a differentiated body, the 
> relative proportion of
> siderophile iridium is going to be much lower than it would be in an iron 
> meteorite.  --Rob
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On 
> Behalf Of Larry Atkins via Meteorite-list
> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 2:10 PM
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Key Capital Announces Major Potential Meteorite 
> Mining Opportunity Joint Ventured
>
> Hi List,
> Thanks for all the off list responses.
> I'm not interested in where the company is located. More specifically, where 
> is this mining location? Is it Meteor Crater? It says the meteoric impactor 
> was an achondrite.
>
> http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/marketwire/1233264.htm
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Larry Atkins
>
> IMCA # 1941
> Ebay alienrockfarm
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Introducing the Worlds Newest Meteorite fall - Creston

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Thanks for sharing, Ruben!  I must have been asleep, how did I miss a
California fall and subsequent recovery efforts?!  Great looking
slices.

Michael in so. Cal.
IMCA #3963

On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am proud to introduce the worlds newest recovered meteorite fall
> called, Creston.
>
> See it here
> http://www.mrmeteorite.com/newcaliforniafall.htm
>
> or keep reading,
>
> This meteorite fell October 23, 2015 near wine country just east of
> Paso Robles California in an area called Creston.
>
> To date less than 800 grams (4 small stones) of this fall have been
> recovered and nearly all is already locked up in collections.
>
> In fact, as far as we know only the 11 slices below (and 1 end cut)
> which were cut from the 102 gram stone pictured at the top of the page
> will ever be available.
>
> This meteorite, likely an L6 has shock veins crossing though each
> slice. According to the classifying scientist it is a commonly seen
> feature in other samples he studied from this fall.
>
> Please call or email if you're interested in a slice!
>
> See it here
> http://www.mrmeteorite.com/newcaliforniafall.htm
>
>
>
> --
> Rock On!
>
> Ruben Garcia
> http://www.MrMeteorite.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA List] Creston new fall prices

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

If it was within my budget I'd buy it just because it's from my home
state.  There's more reasons than a classification to want a
meteorite.

Michael in so. Cal.

On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 8:54 PM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
> Adam. There is plenty of parking for the mobile meteorite command center. The 
> strewnfield is large and endless roads and vineyards. Come on up. It's not 
> far from you. Far more money than gold.
> I had 20 requests to buy the piece of found today. Sold in seconds. My market 
> is pretty good.
>
> Michael Farmer
>
>> On Nov 19, 2015, at 6:41 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Are people actually paying (speculating) $300.00/gram for a possible L6? 
>> This is ten times the price of gold!  You might find a few buyers who do not 
>> care about the price but they will be far and few between in this horrible 
>> economy.
>>
>> I would invest in a proven Martian fall like Zagami at this price.
>>
>> Adam
>>
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[meteorite-list] The Unlikely Struggle Of The Family Whose Neighbor Is Area 51

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Hello, list.  Although this article is not directly related to
meteorites, anyone who has spent any time in the desert searching for
space rocks, or has any history with mining, will appreciate the story
of this family's struggle.

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-unlikely-struggle-of-the-family-whose-neighbor-is-a-1741346156

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Re: [meteorite-list] Very Bright Fireball Over Europe on Halloween Night

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Different colors because there are different constituents in our atmosphere.

Unless people are recording meteors with a spectrograph reporting
"color" is useless since everyone sees colors differently, and the
human eye is hardly a scientific calibrated device.

Michael in so. Cal.

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 2:16 PM, kashuba via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
> Rob, Marco,
>
> OK, so color isn't important.  But why the different colors?  Not green
> can't mean no oxygen. Is the green overwhelmed by other colors?  Why?
>
> - John
>
> John Kashuba
> Bend, Oregon
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On
> Behalf Of Rob Matson via Meteorite-list
> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 12:54 AM
> To: 'meteorite-list'
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Very Bright Fireball Over Europe on Halloween
> Night
>
> HI All,
>
> Marco took the words out of my mouth. Getting tired of hearing that a green
> meteor tells you anything about its composition. I know that it's natural
> for
> people to think the most important thing they can report about a meteor
> is its color, but I wish various broadcast media would do the public a
> service
> and disabuse them of this notion. It would be far better if witnesses
> could be trained to get in the habit of counting the duration accurately,
> and noting the exact time of the meteor to the nearest minute. Seeing as
> how almost everyone has a cell phone these days, and all cell phones have
> accurate clocks, there really is no excuse to get the time wrong. Yet even
> a casual browse of the AMS fireball site reveals that people clearly don't
> think getting the time right is important. And even more obvious is that
> most people have no business reporting anything about fireball starting
> and ending bearings and elevation angles.  --Rob
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On
> Behalf Of Marco Langbroek via Meteorite-list
> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 12:06 AM
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; baa...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Very Bright Fireball Over Europe on Halloween
> Night
>
>> A lot of folks say it looked green to them, which means it may have been
>> metallic;
>
>
> It is a perpetuated misunderstanding that meteor colours are primarily due
> to
> their composition. It's a science myth inspired by High School Bunsen burner
>
> experiments that appears hard to kill.
>
> While composition in some cases does have some influence on the colour, it
> is
> actually the composition of the atmosphere that is usually dominant for our
> perception of meteor colours.
>
> That certainly is true for green colours. Meteor spectra show that meteors
> usually are very strong at the "forbidden" Oxygen line at 5577 Angstrom
> (557.7
> nm). This line is due to atmospheric Oxygen, the same atmospheric Oxygen
> exitation line also responsible for the green colours of Aurora.
>
> So green meteor colours are likely atmospheric in origin and say little
> about
> the meteoroids' composition.
>
> - Marco
>
> -
> Dr Marco (asteroid 183294) Langbroek
> Dutch Meteor Society (DMS)
>
> e-mail: d...@marcolangbroek.nl
> http://www.marcolangbroek.nl
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Re: [meteorite-list] Allende slices selling for $35 to $50. Why?

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Neither, it's because it's a Heritage Auctions auction.

Michael in so. Cal.
IMCA #3963

On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
> Hello Listers
>
> The Heritage Auctions is having an auction in a few days where they will
> be selling some meteorites and I see that some Allende meteorite slices
> are excepted to sell around $35 to $50 per gram. Has the value gone up
> for this meteorite, or is it because of the size and that its a slice.
>
> Link:
> http://fineart.ha.com/itm/nature-and-science/allende-slice-stony-carbonaceous-chondrite-type-iii-pueblito-de-allende-chihuahua-mexico-26-58-n-105-19-w-/a/5234-73152.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515
>
>
> Shawn Alan
> IMCA 1633
> ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html
> Website http://meteoritefalls.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] Local to Las Vegas expert needed to rewiew a find.

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

An in person inspection is easy to promise, but unless one is an
accredited lab doing the classification then there can be no
guarantees made to that regard.

I'm a few hours from Vegas and get that way often.  Feel free to email
me some picts and if I can I'll take a look some day, but I know there
are several Vegas residents who would also know what they're looking
at.

Michael in so. Cal.

On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 2:47 PM, MEM via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
> I am in contact with a Las Vegas resident who has, by all appearances 
> fair-sized, fresh chondrite.  If you are willing and able to inspect in 
> person and get her stone into the system, please send  me your contact 
> information for forwarding.  Pics on request.
>
> Regards,
> Elton
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Re: [meteorite-list] Ensisheim 2015 article and photos

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Is it a meteorite show, or an excuse to drink beer with your friends?
I think there's more beer than meteorites in the photos, not that I
have anything wrong with that. :)

Hope to make it one year!
Michael in so. Cal.
IMCA 3963

On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Martin Goff via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Just uploaded write up and photos from the Ensisheim show 2015 to my website.
>
> Please take a look and hopefully it will evoke some good memories or
> if you have not yet been entice you to come along next year
>
> (http://msg-meteorites.co.uk/meteorite-adventures/the-ensisheim-meteorite-show-2015/)
>
> Enjoy :-)
>
> Cheers
>
> Martin
>
> --
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> www.msg-meteorites.co.uk
> IMCA #3387
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Re: [meteorite-list] Tang Long Elementary School Students Hunt for Meteorites - Pingtung, Taiwan

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Nice activity to get the kids involved, but someone should have told
them that looking in a river wash is a terrible idea and about the
last place you would expect to find one.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ZpB3jUJddSQ/VYGb8tKDtaI/Khs/0GFk1JIbCEI/s1600/Micrometeorite%2Bhunt%2B2015%2BStar%2BScream.JPG

Michael in so. Cal.

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meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 List,
 Tang Long Elementary School Students Hunt for Meteorites - Pingtung, Taiwan
 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2015/06/tang-long-elementary-school-students.html
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Re: [meteorite-list] Marissa's meteorite hunt report

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Hi, List.

I have completed my trip report as well, I posted it along with all my
pictures on my site: http://www.mikestang.com/marissastv.htm

Happy hunting,
Michael in so. Cal.


 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 To: meteoritelist meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Sat, May 30, 2015 3:08 pm
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Marissa's meteorite hunt report


 Hello, list.Marissa has posted her trip report on Club 
 SpaceRock,http://meteorites.ning.com/forum/topics/official-meteorite-hunting-trip-reports.I'veincluded
  it below, as well.Happy hunting,Michael in so.Cal.Well it's the moment that 
 you've all been waiting for, myentirereport on my greatest adventure ever, my 
 meteoritehuntingexperience!! Yes it's very long because there was a ton 
 toreport!I hope that you all enjoy it because this was all your doing 
 :)Mikeand Rogan will probably report their experiences as well. They 
 better!:)this was a group effort, the trip wouldn't have gone so 
 perfectwithout eitherof them. Enjoy!!!Day 1We boarded our plane at about 
 6:40am and we werefortunate to get toboard first, I got the window seat that 
 I wanted and Icould look outperfectly. We took off at 7:20am and it was a 
 great amazingride!Cleveland looked beautiful even though it was mostly 
 cloudy, thesunpeaking through only a little and the lake was the same color 
 as thesky,I couldn't tell where 
 the water ended and the sky began. A fewminutes later wewere above the clouds. 
They were all wavy and itlooked like one big comforterthat you could just land 
on and it'dcatch you. An hour or so later we finallypassed the front and all 
theclouds beneath us and I got my first view of theland from 37,000 feetup, it 
was stunning! The trees formed around rivers, itlooked likeroots under trees or 
the structure of the universe branching outawayfrom the rivers. The landscape 
really did look like a topographicmapwith brown, tan, and green squares and 
rectangules everywhere. Thehouseslooked like sparkles on the earth. Hours later 
we were finallyseeing a changein the land from farm land to desert. Some spots 
weretan and some were red. Weflew over a canyon but I'm not sure if itwas the 
grand canyon but nonethelessit was beautiful, I could see theriver inside the 
canyon. A little later weflew over the tallestmountains that I've ever seen, 
they we completely snowcovered. Anhour or so later we sta
 rted making our decent, once we passedthecloud cover Vegas was in site and it 
was huge!!! I could seethestratosphere standing tall and all the hotels and 
casinos. Thepilotlanded the plane so beautifully and smooth. We made our way 
throughtheridiculously huge airport trying to find the baggage claim, we hadto 
get on anAmtrak to get to the baggage claim area. Once we gotthere I saw a 
young manwaving at me, I had no idea who this was andthought for a moment that 
someoneI knew from Ohio came too and Icouldn't remember them. He walked over 
and tomy surprise it wasRogan! I was in shock, I had no idea he would come. 
Ihad asked along time ago if he could be there but he couldn't give me 
astraightanswer and lead me to believe that he couldn't go. I was so 
happythathe actually came! From there we got our rental van and we 
drovethroughlas Vegas Blvd to check out the Vegas scene. I'll only be hereonce 
so I had tosee the city. We stopped at New York New York for anamazing 
breakfast followedb
 y the hard rock cafe and some gambling. Icouldn't believe that they 
actuallyhad Vegas showgirls out on thesidewalks. After that we headed to 
pahrump whereour hotel was tochange for dinner, we had reservations to the Top 
of TheWorldrestaurant in the stratosphere hotel and casino. During the 
drivebackthrough the mountains we saw a rain cloud and a 
beautifulrainbowembedded inside. The view was stunning, the restaurant was 
amazingandthe food was incredible! There were people bungee jumping off the 
sideofthe building. Our waiter was so good that when I asked for 
plasticsilverwareand he said that they had none he actually went to 
anotherplace in thebuilding to get me some. The service was amazing. Wefinished 
a bottle of roseabaringer wine it was very good. Once it gotcompletely dark the 
lights in thedistance were shimmering like starsin the sky. We sat enjoying the 
viewwatching the moon and Venus setin the distance.Day 2Michael Mulgrew 
wascoming in today for our first hunt in StewartValle
 y and to show off his metaldetector and meteorites. The bubblechair did arrive 
in Las Vegas but theywouldn't deliver it because itwas the holiday weekend to 
them so Rogan had togo get it, my staffAutumn went with him. While they were 
gone Mike arrived andwe left toget lunch and supplies for the hunts. When we 
returned wewentstraight to looking at maps and meteorites. He showed me where 
weshouldstart looking and we planed the days to come. Then he bustedout his 
meteoritesand we

[meteorite-list] Marissa's meteorite hunt report

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Hello, list.

Marissa has posted her trip report on Club Space Rock,
http://meteorites.ning.com/forum/topics/official-meteorite-hunting-trip-reports.
I've included it below, as well.

Happy hunting,
Michael in so. Cal.




Well it's the moment that you've all been waiting for, my entire
report on my greatest adventure ever, my meteorite hunting
experience!! Yes it's very long because there was a ton to report!
I hope that you all enjoy it because this was all your doing :) Mike
and Rogan will probably report their experiences as well. They better!
:) this was a group effort, the trip wouldn't have gone so perfect
without either of them. Enjoy!!!

Day 1
We boarded our plane at about 6:40am and we were fortunate to get to
board first, I got the window seat that I wanted and I could look out
perfectly. We took off at 7:20am and it was a great amazing ride!
Cleveland looked beautiful even though it was mostly cloudy, the sun
peaking through only a little and the lake was the same color as the
sky, I couldn't tell where the water ended and the sky began. A few
minutes later we were above the clouds. They were all wavy and it
looked like one big comforter that you could just land on and it'd
catch you. An hour or so later we finally passed the front and all the
clouds beneath us and I got my first view of the land from 37,000 feet
up, it was stunning! The trees formed around rivers, it looked like
roots under trees or the structure of the universe branching out away
from the rivers. The landscape really did look like a topographic map
with brown, tan, and green squares and rectangules everywhere. The
houses looked like sparkles on the earth. Hours later we were finally
seeing a change in the land from farm land to desert. Some spots were
tan and some were red. We flew over a canyon but I'm not sure if it
was the grand canyon but nonetheless it was beautiful, I could see the
river inside the canyon. A little later we flew over the tallest
mountains that I've ever seen, they we completely snow covered. An
hour or so later we started making our decent, once we passed the
cloud cover Vegas was in site and it was huge!!! I could see the
stratosphere standing tall and all the hotels and casinos. The pilot
landed the plane so beautifully and smooth. We made our way through
the ridiculously huge airport trying to find the baggage claim, we had
to get on an Amtrak to get to the baggage claim area. Once we got
there I saw a young man waving at me, I had no idea who this was and
thought for a moment that someone I knew from Ohio came too and I
couldn't remember them. He walked over and to my surprise it was
Rogan! I was in shock, I had no idea he would come. I had asked a
long time ago if he could be there but he couldn't give me a straight
answer and lead me to believe that he couldn't go. I was so happy that
he actually came! From there we got our rental van and we drove
through las Vegas Blvd to check out the Vegas scene. I'll only be here
once so I had to see the city. We stopped at New York New York for an
amazing breakfast followed by the hard rock cafe and some gambling. I
couldn't believe that they actually had Vegas showgirls out on the
sidewalks. After that we headed to pahrump where our hotel was to
change for dinner, we had reservations to the Top of The World
restaurant in the stratosphere hotel and casino. During the drive back
through the mountains we saw a rain cloud and a beautiful rainbow
embedded inside. The view was stunning, the restaurant was amazing and
the food was incredible! There were people bungee jumping off the side
of the building. Our waiter was so good that when I asked for plastic
silverware and he said that they had none he actually went to another
place in the building to get me some. The service was amazing. We
finished a bottle of rosea baringer wine it was very good. Once it got
completely dark the lights in the distance were shimmering like stars
in the sky. We sat enjoying the view watching the moon and Venus set
in the distance.
Day 2
Michael Mulgrew was coming in today for our first hunt in Stewart
Valley and to show off his metal detector and meteorites. The bubble
chair did arrive in Las Vegas but they wouldn't deliver it because it
was the holiday weekend to them so Rogan had to go get it, my staff
Autumn went with him. While they were gone Mike arrived and we left to
get lunch and supplies for the hunts. When we returned we went
straight to looking at maps and meteorites. He showed me where we
should start looking and we planed the days to come. Then he busted
out his meteorites and we geeked out. I looked at some of his Stewart
Valley finds and one was a puzzle piece meteorite where he could
actually piece it back together! Not long after he started showing me
his meteorites Rogan and Autumn were back and the three of us were
geeking out and got pumped to find our own. It was so fun to finally
share the love of meteorites with others who love them as much as
myself. 

Re: [meteorite-list] Marissa's meteorite hunt - day 1 report

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Good morning, list.  I just got home (4am) and am off to bed, but
wanted to share the final tally:

Marissa: 2
Debbie (aide): 2
Rogan: 4
Mike: 4

It was an amazing trip, 2 dense collection areas in 3 days, many
pictures and videos to follow.  A lifetime of memories is the most
rewarding find.

Zz
Michael in so. Cal.

On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 2:09 AM, Michael Mulgrew mikest...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello, list.

 A quick update before I go to sleep, but our first day in the field
 was a resounding success!  We made it out to the playa a few hours
 later than initially planned, but we managed to get in 4 hours of
 hunting before the light failed up.  Day 1 find totals are:

 Marissa: 2 - Her first find came less than half an hour into the hunt!
 Debbie (aide): 2
 Rogan: 2
 Mike: 3

 Have an early start for day 2 tomorrow, more details and pictures to follow!

 Michael in so. Cal.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Marissa's meteorite hunt - day 1 report

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Hello, List!

It will be a few days before all our pictures and stories make their
way to the web, but in the mean time I at least wanted to link you all
to the photos I tweeted from the field and provide a bit of narrative.
I'm not sure how well twitter supports direct links to photos, but
hopefully this will work:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFtEhcrVIAAdFrW.jpg:large
Stewart Valley, Nevada.  30 minutes into the hunt and three people had
already found meteorites, most importantly was Marissa with her first!
 This picture shows Rogan documenting his find, and Marissa and Autumn
(Marissa's aide) checking out Marissa's find.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFtEhzJUEAAa2HS.jpg:large
Marissa's first find, most probably a fragment of H6 chondrite.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFuU_u5UUAAPFqC.jpg:large
Day 2, the California side of Stewart Valley.  The forces that shaped
the valley are displayed in the rock layers behind her, some bending
all the way back on themselves.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFvlnSJUMAAKDJv.jpg:large
Dinner after Day 2 hunt.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFyZj9xUIAA20ET.jpg:large
Day 3, bubble chair loaded and heading to Stump Spring DCA.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFzNrVIVEAAAMp_.jpg:large
It was a gorgeous day in the desert, temp was about 80*F/27*C, and a
storm was playing in the mountains to our north.  The rain would come
down the range in huge sheets, only to evaporate away over the open
desert.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFzexGIVEAAQoyR.jpg:large
Lots to look at out at Stump Spring; the rocks, the sky, the mountains...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFzkkIcVEAALnmd.jpg:large
To boldly go...
Over Marissa's right shoulder is the storm phenomena I described above.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CF0Su4DUUAAVz8j.jpg:large
After a few hours at Stump Spring we returned to StV to finish out Day 3.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CF07czfUsAAcGZM.jpg:large
Dinner back at the hotel, we brought all our finds (except Debbie's
two from day 1, they were in the hotel room, oops).  Rogan's on the
left, Marissa's in the middle (her second find has fusion crust along
one edge, the fragments with crust are much less common at StV), mine
on the right.

I think Rogan may have posted some video on facebook already, but
since I don't use it I couldn't tell you anything else. :)

Happy hunting!
Michael in so. Cal.

On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 4:32 AM, Michael Mulgrew mikest...@gmail.com wrote:
 Good morning, list.  I just got home (4am) and am off to bed, but
 wanted to share the final tally:

 Marissa: 2
 Debbie (aide): 2
 Rogan: 4
 Mike: 4

 It was an amazing trip, 2 dense collection areas in 3 days, many
 pictures and videos to follow.  A lifetime of memories is the most
 rewarding find.

 Zz
 Michael in so. Cal.

 On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 2:09 AM, Michael Mulgrew mikest...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello, list.

 A quick update before I go to sleep, but our first day in the field
 was a resounding success!  We made it out to the playa a few hours
 later than initially planned, but we managed to get in 4 hours of
 hunting before the light failed up.  Day 1 find totals are:

 Marissa: 2 - Her first find came less than half an hour into the hunt!
 Debbie (aide): 2
 Rogan: 2
 Mike: 3

 Have an early start for day 2 tomorrow, more details and pictures to follow!

 Michael in so. Cal.
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[meteorite-list] Marissa's meteorite hunt - day 1 report

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Hello, list.

A quick update before I go to sleep, but our first day in the field
was a resounding success!  We made it out to the playa a few hours
later than initially planned, but we managed to get in 4 hours of
hunting before the light failed up.  Day 1 find totals are:

Marissa: 2 - Her first find came less than half an hour into the hunt!
Debbie (aide): 2
Rogan: 2
Mike: 3

Have an early start for day 2 tomorrow, more details and pictures to follow!

Michael in so. Cal.
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[meteorite-list] Marissa's meteorite hunt - final update

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Hello, List!

I am happy to provide you all with this final update for Marissa's
meteorite hunt.  The next report will be pictures from the field!  In
one week Marissa will board a plane and begin her trip of a lifetime.
She has finished her semester at school (passed all her classes!) and
is getting all her gear together that has been purchased.  All travel
and lodging requirements have been taken care of, including trip
insurance for Marissa should anything come up at the last minute.  She
has shared photos of her hunting gear on Club Space Rock, please click
the link the check it out:
http://meteorites.ning.com/forum/topics/one-week-to-go-for-marissa-s-meteorite-hunt-please-read-for-final?page=13commentId=3513451%3AComment%3A183762x=1#3513451Comment183762

In addition to her powered wheel chair we have purchased a manual
bubble chair that is designed to be used on sand.  If her powered
chair gets bogged down during the hunt we can switch to the back-up
which will be carried into the field on the roof rack of my 4x4.  This
chair is being shipped directly to the town in Nevada where we are
staying.

If any of you use twitter please be sure to follow her meteorite hunt
account, https://twitter.com/mfanady.  I will attempt to live tweet
from the field (reception permitting), but at the very least we will
send out some tweets each night when we return to the hotel.

Thank you all again for your support, and here's to a successful hunt!

Michael in so. Cal.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Strikes Down Thief During Armed Robbery

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Source is sketchy, story is sketchy, I call shenanigans.

Michael in so. Cal.

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 Hello Listers.

 I am glad its the weekend :)
 Have a good read and enjoy:)

 SA

 Shawn Alan
 IMCA 1633
 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html
 Website http://meteoritefalls.com


 Meteorite Strikes Down Thief During Armed Robbery

 A burglary ended in a very sudden and unexpected way yesterday, in
 Orange County, when a gang member was killed by a falling meteorite
 debris while he was holding three people at gunpoint in a Santa Ana
 residence.

 The criminal, Juan Pedro Sancho Jiménez, had just broken into a house
 in the Eastside area of Santa Ana, when a meteorite  fragment weighting
 almost ½ pound pierced through the roof of the residence and hit him on
 the top of the head. The well-known gang member who had already spent
 eleven years in jail for sexual assault and armed robbery, was killed
 almost instantly as the meteorite passed through his skull, destroyed
 his spine and continued its way through many of his vital organs.

 Officers from the Orange County Sheriff Department arrived on the site
 only a few minutes after the incident, but the assailant was already
 dead.

 source:http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/meteorite-strikes-down-thief-during-armed-robbery/
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Re: [meteorite-list] Gold Basin

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Just like Al Hag 01 is an aubrite, right?  If the MetBul says so it
must be true!

http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2002/June/Bob%27s_Findings.htm
http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/2005/apr05.htm
http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/2008/aug08.htm

Michael in so. Cal.

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Larry Atkins via Meteorite-list
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 Hi Mike,

 These new meteorite finds may finally resolve a long debated issue. Bob V.
 directed me to this paper and you should give it a read.

 http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2005/pdf/2352.pdf


 Sincerely,
 Larry Atkins

 IMCA # 1941
 Ebay alienrockfarm



 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com
 To: Gmail mendy.ouzil...@gmail.com
 Cc: Larry Atkins thetop...@aol.com; meteorite-list
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Thu, Feb 26, 2015 12:35 pm
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Gold Basin


 I'm confused since Gold Basin is an L4.Michael Farmer On Feb 26, 2015, at
 10:59 AM, Gmail via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 wrote:  Very, very well done!  Congrats to Joe and thank you both for
 showing us that what can be achieved when one is really committed to a
 pursuit.   Mendy Ouzillou  On Feb 26, 2015, at 6:23 PM, Larry Atkins via
 Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:  Hello List,
 As you may have heard, there has been a major development concerning the
 Gold Basin strewn field. Of course, it's possible this is not GB but the
 evidence looks very promising.  Three years ago Joe Franske ventured to
 the north side of Lake Meade in search of the big end of Gold Basin.
 According to Joe, it took him 6 tries to get to the right location, but
 once he did, it took him only 3 hours to find a meteorite. This is a
 monumental feat to say the least. He brought me in on the project last
 March and I take no credit for this discovery. Sure, we all had an idea
 that the strewn field crossed the lake, we all drew lines, but only one guy
 had the steel to go get it done. Hats off to Joe.  Joe and I have decided
 we are pretty much done out there for now. We documented well over 100
 pounds, most of which was found on the south side of Jumbo Peak. Last week
 I extended the field another 5.75 miles with 2 finds on the north side of
 Jumbo, including a 34 pound stone that was broken into many pieces. We
 decided to give you guys some details regarding the find locations, hence
 this message, but in return we would like to know about any finds you make
 so that we may continue documenting the strewn field. Jim Kreigh, John
 Blennert and Twink Monrad did a fantastic job documenting in the past and
 we would like to do the same. I know there are some hunters out there that
 will not share and so be it, but most of us are good people and I would
 expect some cooperation for the good of the larger picture. Please send
 your reports to me so that I can share them with the scientist involved
 with our work.  Joe found the first stone on the south side of Jumbo Peak
 and that is where the majority of the finds were made. The area is only
 about a mile wide and I highly doubt that defines the outer limits of the
 field, however, to go farther east or west is difficult due to terrain. Go
 onto Google earth and you will see the valley just south of the peak, and
 north of the park boundary, this is where you start.  On the north side
 of Jumbo Peak you will find most of the area too soft for meteorite
 recovery. Decomposing granite has likely buried the stones too deep for
 detection. In my mind it's a small miracle that I found the 2 stones on
 that side. To put the difficulty into perspective, we spent 36 man days to
 locate the 2 stones and out of four hunters I was the only one to score.
 That place will hand your butt to you on a platter, as they say.  As a
 side note; If you decide to give this place a try there are some things to
 consider. To get to the south side of Jumbo you will need a 4 wheel drive
 and it takes about 3.5 - 4 hours once you leave Mesquite. There is no phone
 service and the road out wants to eat your truck! If you go, plan to stay
 for several days at least, it's a lot of work and expense just for a day or
 two.  If you have any specific questions feel free to email me.  Good
 luck and fair sailing to all who go! Here's the low down on the
 science so far.  I submitted samples from my 16+ lb. stone (found March,
 2014) to UCLA this past summer. It did come back L6 as can be seen below.
 Dr. Kring wants to do more work including cosmogenics and such, on several
 different samples to help come to a conclusion as to whether or not it is
 indeed Gold Basin .  When asked how I know it's GB I say that the
 classification is consistent, they look the same in hand, on the exterior
 and the interior, and they are in line with the logical progression of the
 known field. Sure, it could be something different, but simply put, the
 easiest, most 

Re: [meteorite-list] Gold Basin

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Just like Al Hag 01 is an aubrite, right?  If the MetBul says so it
must be true!

http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2002/June/Bob%27s_Findings.htm
http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/2005/apr05.htm
http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/2008/aug08.htm

Michael in so. Cal.

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 I'm confused since Gold Basin is an L4.

 Michael Farmer

 On Feb 26, 2015, at 10:59 AM, Gmail via Meteorite-list 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:

 Very, very well done!

 Congrats to Joe and thank you both for showing us that what can be achieved 
 when one is really committed to a pursuit.

 Mendy Ouzillou

 On Feb 26, 2015, at 6:23 PM, Larry Atkins via Meteorite-list 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:

 Hello List,

 As you may have heard, there has been a major development concerning
 the Gold Basin strewn field. Of course, it's possible this is not GB
 but the evidence looks very promising.

 Three years ago Joe Franske ventured to the north side of Lake Meade in
 search of the big end of Gold Basin. According to Joe, it took him 6
 tries to get to the right location, but once he did, it took him only 3
 hours to find a meteorite. This is a monumental feat to say the least.
 He brought me in on the project last March and I take no credit for
 this discovery. Sure, we all had an idea that the strewn field crossed
 the lake, we all drew lines, but only one guy had the steel to go get
 it done. Hats off to Joe.

 Joe and I have decided we are pretty much done out there for now. We
 documented well over 100 pounds, most of which was found on the
 south side of Jumbo Peak. Last week I extended the field another 5.75
 miles with 2 finds on the north side of Jumbo, including
 a 34 pound stone that was broken into many pieces. We decided to give you 
 guys
 some details regarding the find
 locations, hence this message, but in return we would like to know
 about
 any finds you make so that we may continue documenting the strewn
 field. Jim Kreigh, John Blennert and Twink Monrad did a fantastic job
 documenting in the past and we would like to do the same. I know there
 are some hunters out there that will not share and so be it, but most
 of us are
 good people and I would expect some cooperation for the good of the
 larger picture. Please send your reports to me so that I can share them
 with the scientist involved with our work.

 Joe found the first stone on the south side of Jumbo Peak and that is
 where the majority of the finds were made. The area is only about a
 mile wide and I highly doubt that defines the outer limits of the
 field, however, to go farther east or west is difficult due to terrain.
 Go onto Google earth and you will see the valley just south of the peak, and 
 north of the park boundary,
 this is where you start.

 On the north side of Jumbo Peak you will find most of the area too soft
 for meteorite recovery. Decomposing granite has likely buried the
 stones too deep for detection. In my mind it's a small miracle that I
 found the 2 stones on that side. To put the difficulty into
 perspective, we spent 36 man days to locate the 2 stones and out of
 four hunters I was the only one to score. That place will hand your
 butt
 to you on a platter, as they say.

 As a side note;
 If you decide to give this place a try there are some things to
 consider. To get to the south side of Jumbo you will need a 4 wheel
 drive and it takes about 3.5 - 4 hours once you leave Mesquite. There
 is no phone service and the road out wants to eat your truck! If you
 go, plan to stay for several days at least, it's a lot of work and
 expense just for a day or two.

 If you have any specific questions feel free to email me.

 Good luck and fair sailing to all who go!




 Here's the low down on the science so far.

 I submitted samples from my 16+ lb. stone (found March, 2014) to UCLA
 this past summer.
 It did come back L6 as can be seen below. Dr. Kring wants to do
 more work including cosmogenics and such, on several different samples
 to help come to a conclusion as to whether or not it is indeed Gold
 Basin .

 When asked how I know it's GB I say that the classification is
 consistent, they look the same in hand, on the exterior and the
 interior, and they are in line with the logical progression of the
 known field. Sure, it could be something different, but simply put,
 the easiest, most obvious and logical answer is usually the right
 answer. I'd be very, very surprised if it was something else.

 UCLA (Rubin, Breen)

 received August 18, 2014, 2 pieces, 23.7 g
 L6  S4  W1
 olivine: Fa 23.9±0.2 (n=15); low-Ca pyroxene: Fs20.3±0.3 Wo1.6±0.2
 (n=12)

 plagioclase grains are typically 60-100 µm in size. The rock exhibits
 weak mosacisim but does not contain maskelynite.



 Sincerely,
 Larry Atkins

 IMCA # 1941
 Ebay alienrockfarm




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Re: [meteorite-list] Gold Basin

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Just like Al Hag 01 is an aubrite, right?  If the MetBul says so it
must be true!

http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2002/June/Bob%27s_Findings.htm
http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/2005/apr05.htm
http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/2008/aug08.htm

Michael in so. Cal.

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 I'm confused since Gold Basin is an L4.

 Michael Farmer

 On Feb 26, 2015, at 10:59 AM, Gmail via Meteorite-list 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:

 Very, very well done!

 Congrats to Joe and thank you both for showing us that what can be achieved 
 when one is really committed to a pursuit.

 Mendy Ouzillou

 On Feb 26, 2015, at 6:23 PM, Larry Atkins via Meteorite-list 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:

 Hello List,

 As you may have heard, there has been a major development concerning
 the Gold Basin strewn field. Of course, it's possible this is not GB
 but the evidence looks very promising.

 Three years ago Joe Franske ventured to the north side of Lake Meade in
 search of the big end of Gold Basin. According to Joe, it took him 6
 tries to get to the right location, but once he did, it took him only 3
 hours to find a meteorite. This is a monumental feat to say the least.
 He brought me in on the project last March and I take no credit for
 this discovery. Sure, we all had an idea that the strewn field crossed
 the lake, we all drew lines, but only one guy had the steel to go get
 it done. Hats off to Joe.

 Joe and I have decided we are pretty much done out there for now. We
 documented well over 100 pounds, most of which was found on the
 south side of Jumbo Peak. Last week I extended the field another 5.75
 miles with 2 finds on the north side of Jumbo, including
 a 34 pound stone that was broken into many pieces. We decided to give you 
 guys
 some details regarding the find
 locations, hence this message, but in return we would like to know
 about
 any finds you make so that we may continue documenting the strewn
 field. Jim Kreigh, John Blennert and Twink Monrad did a fantastic job
 documenting in the past and we would like to do the same. I know there
 are some hunters out there that will not share and so be it, but most
 of us are
 good people and I would expect some cooperation for the good of the
 larger picture. Please send your reports to me so that I can share them
 with the scientist involved with our work.

 Joe found the first stone on the south side of Jumbo Peak and that is
 where the majority of the finds were made. The area is only about a
 mile wide and I highly doubt that defines the outer limits of the
 field, however, to go farther east or west is difficult due to terrain.
 Go onto Google earth and you will see the valley just south of the peak, and 
 north of the park boundary,
 this is where you start.

 On the north side of Jumbo Peak you will find most of the area too soft
 for meteorite recovery. Decomposing granite has likely buried the
 stones too deep for detection. In my mind it's a small miracle that I
 found the 2 stones on that side. To put the difficulty into
 perspective, we spent 36 man days to locate the 2 stones and out of
 four hunters I was the only one to score. That place will hand your
 butt
 to you on a platter, as they say.

 As a side note;
 If you decide to give this place a try there are some things to
 consider. To get to the south side of Jumbo you will need a 4 wheel
 drive and it takes about 3.5 - 4 hours once you leave Mesquite. There
 is no phone service and the road out wants to eat your truck! If you
 go, plan to stay for several days at least, it's a lot of work and
 expense just for a day or two.

 If you have any specific questions feel free to email me.

 Good luck and fair sailing to all who go!




 Here's the low down on the science so far.

 I submitted samples from my 16+ lb. stone (found March, 2014) to UCLA
 this past summer.
 It did come back L6 as can be seen below. Dr. Kring wants to do
 more work including cosmogenics and such, on several different samples
 to help come to a conclusion as to whether or not it is indeed Gold
 Basin .

 When asked how I know it's GB I say that the classification is
 consistent, they look the same in hand, on the exterior and the
 interior, and they are in line with the logical progression of the
 known field. Sure, it could be something different, but simply put,
 the easiest, most obvious and logical answer is usually the right
 answer. I'd be very, very surprised if it was something else.

 UCLA (Rubin, Breen)

 received August 18, 2014, 2 pieces, 23.7 g
 L6  S4  W1
 olivine: Fa 23.9±0.2 (n=15); low-Ca pyroxene: Fs20.3±0.3 Wo1.6±0.2
 (n=12)

 plagioclase grains are typically 60-100 µm in size. The rock exhibits
 weak mosacisim but does not contain maskelynite.



 Sincerely,
 Larry Atkins

 IMCA # 1941
 Ebay alienrockfarm




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Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson stories ( Gold Basin news)

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Likewise, it is not my story to tell, so I'll leave you with the
basics: the strewn field has been extended by leaps and bounds,
hopefully those involved will share the full story and pictures with
us all soon!

Michael in so. Cal.

On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Robert Verish bolidecha...@yahoo.com wrote:
 More than 15 years ago John Blennert  predicted that the Gold Basin
 Strewn-field extends north into Nevada, and that the actual main-mass of
 that fall was still waiting to be found in Nevada. The Legend of the Nevada
 Gold Basin main-mass has become a holy grail in certain meteorite hunting
 circles.
 But the adventure for the hunt of that main mass  can only be best told by
 the finders, and not by me.  I too look forward to seeing this story in
 print some time soon.
 Bob V.

 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

 From:Galactic Stone  Ironworks via Meteorite-list
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date:Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 7:05
 Subject:Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson stories

 Well, don't tease us, you tell us!  LOL.  ;)

 Let me hazard some wild guesses.  I will disclose that I know jack
 about Gold Basin except what the typical collector knows.  I haven't
 read anything recently.

 Is it?

 Somebody found tektites associated with the area?

 New overlapping strewnfield find?

 New rules from BLM or state about hunting that area?

 A crazy local homeless person stumbled across the a lunar in the
 strewnfield?

 All sales of Gold Basin are hereby suspended until these questions are
 answered in an authoritative manner.

 Best regards,

 MikeG

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 On 2/10/15, Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 Some very exciting news about the Gold Basin strewn field was made
 public, hopefully that announcement will be reciprocated here.

 Michael in so. Cal.

 On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Sean T. Murray via Meteorite-list
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 I bet Johnno Cabassi has a few...  But they will probably need to be
 moderated...

 Sean.

 -Original Message- From: John Lutzon via Meteorite-list
 Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 7:07 PM
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Tucson stories

 Hello All,

 Any stories or tales from Tucson??

 All best, John
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Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson stories

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Some very exciting news about the Gold Basin strewn field was made
public, hopefully that announcement will be reciprocated here.

Michael in so. Cal.

On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Sean T. Murray via Meteorite-list
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 I bet Johnno Cabassi has a few...  But they will probably need to be
 moderated...

 Sean.

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 Hello All,

 Any stories or tales from Tucson??

 All best, John
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Re: [meteorite-list] Met Bulletin Update : Sahara 00293

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Google will tell you who Ms. Fudge is:
https://nasa.asu.edu/view_bio/Crystylynda%20Fudge/2013-2014?destination=view_bio%2FCrystylynda+Fudge%2F2013-2014
http://sese.asu.edu/people/crystylynda-fudge

Michael in so. Cal.

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 5:01 PM, J Sinclair via Meteorite-list
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 Sahara 00293
 That's a Labenne #
 Their 293rd recorded meteorite for the year 2000
 Consistent with their numbering system from 1997 onward.

 So many desert meteorites. So many ordinary chondrites with no data.
 So many could be paired. So confusing.

 On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 Strange...that really sounds like a made up name!!

 On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 11:30 PM, Galactic Stone  Ironworks via
 Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 Hi Bulletin Watchers,

 There is one new approval. I find it curious. It is an old Sahara OC
 found by Mr. Labenne fifteen years ago (2000). Crystylynda Fudge was
 the classifier. I have never heard this name before. I am just curious
 why this meteorite suddenly appeared out of obscurity to be approved
 today.

 Best regards and Happy Huntings,

 MikeG

 Link : http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=61360

 Bulletin write-up :

 Sahara 00293
 (Sahara)
 Found: 2000
 Classification: Ordinary chondrite (L6)

 History: Reportedly collected in the same location as Sahara 98222.

 Physical characteristics: Chondrules largely integrated into matrix,
 difficult to discern in cut section. Abundant shock-induced melt veins
 and pockets.

 Petrography: Fine-grained recrystallized plagioclase throughout
 matrix, some grains up to 200 μm. Abundant metal sulfides and troilite
 with trace native Cu. Evidence of minor planar deformation features in
 olivine. Ubiquitous opaque shock melt veins and associated dark blue
 ringwoodite and green wadsleyite.

 Geochemistry: (C. Fudge, ASU) EPMA: Fa24.8±0.1 FeO/MnO: 48.8±1.6 n=11;
 low-Ca pyroxene Fs20.9±0.3Wo1.6±0.2 FeO/MnO: 28.6±1.1 n=12; high-Ca
 pyroxene Fs8.4±0.2Wo44.4±0.1 FeO/MnO: 20.8±1.2 n=2

 Classification: Ordinary chondrite L6, S6, W2

 Specimens: 27.05 g and one thin section at ASU


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Re: [meteorite-list] Science Journal: Earth's water didn't come from comets, scientists now say

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

I am curious how such a definitive conclusion can be reached from the
analysis of a singular cometary body?  How many comets are out there
floating around the solar system?  I guess they are assuming all
comets have the same make-up?  Seems a bit short sighted to me,
considering, for example, how diverse asteroidal composition is.
Imagine if we landed a probe on one asteroid, then extrapolated the
results of that landing to apply to all asteroids, what a gross
neglect of diversity that would be.

Hopefully I'm missing something here and someone will chime in and
explain it to me.

Michael in so. Cal.

On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 Hello Listers

 Enjoy :)

 From The New York Times (excerpted):

 One of the first scientific findings to emerge from close-up study of a
 comet has all but settled a question that planetary scientists have
 debated for decades.

 The new finding, from the European Space Agency’s mission to the
 little duck-shaped comet called 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko, appears to
 eliminate the possibility that the water in Earth's oceans came from
 melted comets.

 http://jacksonville.com/opinion/blog/400564/john-leacock/2014-12-11/science-journal-earths-water-didnt-come-comets

 Shawn Alan
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Re: [meteorite-list] Not met. Related - Friend On Meteorite List

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No other state even comes close to California when it comes to produce
production, so it follows that no other states would have to enact
protections as tough as California.  Don't like it, then stay out of
my state (and stop eating fruits, nuts, and vegetables altogether,
chances are they were grown here).

Michael in so. Cal.

On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 That's California for you.  Too much governmental control and wasted tax
 payer money.  They tax (fleece) everything and the roads are crap!  I can
 tell when I am entering California from Arizona or Nevada just by the
 condition of the roads and the agricultural check points.  First you go from
 a smooth freeway into a patched together, multi-colored, quilted road
 surface with no shoulders and than go through the indignity of an inspection
 station just have any American grown produce thrown in the trash.

 No thanks!

 Adam




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 Keeping this meteorite related, the California bug stations even look for
 firewood coming in from other states.  So for example you are planning a
 meteorite
 hunting trip into or through California and figure you would like to haul
 some firewood with you, you might want to know that they may or will seize
 it at the border inspection stations.

 Jim Wooddell




 On 12/8/2014 6:51 AM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list wrote:

 That is a crime, you really want someone to receive and ship goods to you
 in violation of California law? They could be prosecuted for that.

 Sent from my iPad

 On Dec 8, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Michael Blood via Meteorite-list
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:

 NOTE: THIS IS NOT METEORITE INFORMATION

 Hi All,
 Hope you all had a wonderful Thanksgiving.
 As some of you know, I grow exotic plants, have a
 Greenhouse, etc.
 Unfortunately, CA is THE worst state when it comes
 To importing plants.
 SNIPOLA


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Re: [meteorite-list] Not met. Related - Friend On Meteorite List

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Average gasoline prices in Arizona ($2.57/gal) are about 13% lower
than California ($2.97). How does that 13% difference turn into an
almost 100% (claimed) increase in your fill-up?

California has more than 3 times the lane-miles of Arizona and it's
drivers account for 11% of ALL of the miles driven in the entire
country (more than 5 times Arizona drivers, and we have a lower
fatality rate because no one from Arizona can drive worth a damn), so
yes, our roads do get used and abused and could use some love.
Believe it or not, road maintenance is what the fuel tax is used for,
we just have a lot more roads that need maintaining.

And most produce comes from California.  And by most we're talking a
huge majority.  Some comes from Mexico, some from other places, too,
but California is our nation's produce isle.

Michael is so. Cal.

On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 I do stay out of California unless managing one of my over-taxed investment
 properties..  It cost nearly twice as much to fill up my gas tank there as
 it does in Arizona.  They were the first state to have a major city go
 bankrupt demonstrating their ability to manage taxpayer funds.  I do not
 know what they do with the nations highest fuel tax. It sure isn't put into
 the roads.  I will not drive at night in parts of California since they
 can't even afford to paint the lanes or put up reflectors.  I once went
 airborne at night while pulling my enclosed car hauler trailer since
 California was too cheap to mark a raised railroad crossing.

 I have seen better roads in third-world countries.  As far as produce goes,
 most of it now comes from Mexico.

 Again, no thanks,

 Adam


 Drive at your own risk
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 To: Raremeteorites raremeteori...@centurylink.net
 Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 10:01 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not met. Related - Friend On Meteorite List


 No other state even comes close to California when it comes to produce
 production, so it follows that no other states would have to enact
 protections as tough as California.  Don't like it, then stay out of
 my state (and stop eating fruits, nuts, and vegetables altogether,
 chances are they were grown here).

 Michael in so. Cal.

 On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:

 That's California for you.  Too much governmental control and wasted tax
 payer money.  They tax (fleece) everything and the roads are crap!  I can
 tell when I am entering California from Arizona or Nevada just by the
 condition of the roads and the agricultural check points.  First you go
 from
 a smooth freeway into a patched together, multi-colored, quilted road
 surface with no shoulders and than go through the indignity of an
 inspection
 station just have any American grown produce thrown in the trash.

 No thanks!

 Adam




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 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 6:30 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not met. Related - Friend On Meteorite List



 Keeping this meteorite related, the California bug stations even look
 for
 firewood coming in from other states.  So for example you are planning a
 meteorite
 hunting trip into or through California and figure you would like to
 haul
 some firewood with you, you might want to know that they may or will
 seize
 it at the border inspection stations.

 Jim Wooddell




 On 12/8/2014 6:51 AM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list wrote:


 That is a crime, you really want someone to receive and ship goods to
 you
 in violation of California law? They could be prosecuted for that.

 Sent from my iPad

 On Dec 8, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Michael Blood via Meteorite-list
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:

 NOTE: THIS IS NOT METEORITE INFORMATION

 Hi All,
 Hope you all had a wonderful Thanksgiving.
 As some of you know, I grow exotic plants, have a
 Greenhouse, etc.
 Unfortunately, CA is THE worst state when it comes
 To importing plants.
 SNIPOLA



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[meteorite-list] Marissa's meteorite - an update

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Hello, List!

As 2014 draws to a close I wanted to give you all a quick update on
the progress we've made toward Marissa's meteorite hunt in May, 2015.

We have purchased the plane tickets for Marissa and her two nurses.
We elected for travel insurance, should something come up at the last
minute.
We have secured lodging for Marissa and co. at the local hotel.
Marissa's room is equipped with a roll-in shower and several other
accessible amenities.
We are finalizing the accessible van rental; we have budgeted
adequately for gasoline.
We have budgeted for food and drinks for Marissa and her nurses.
Marissa has her hunting magnet stick. It's collapsible so it will fit
in her luggage.  It is light enough for her to wield, she's been
testing it out on real meteorites it arrived.

I think that's all the major points.  We are wrapping up a few other
pieces of gear acquisition, including a possible back-up manual chair,
well on schedule for a (hopefully!) successful hunt next spring.

Thank again to everyone who contributed, you all rock!
Michael in so. Cal.
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Re: [meteorite-list] PDF version of Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Katsu,

The book is Copyright Springer-Verlag London Limited, the link your
provided is an illegal download (as you surmised, surprised you shared
it).

Please purchase the book and show your support.

-Michael in so. Cal.

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 1:29 AM, Katsu OHTSUKA via Meteorite-list
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 Hello list,

 I found a PDF version of the classic book Field Guide to Meteors and
 Meteorites (by R. Norton  L. Chitwood)
 in the following link:
 http://museum-21.ru/files/video/Norton%20O.,%20Chitwood%20L.%20-%20Field%20Guide%20to%20Meteors%20and%20Meteorites%20-%202008.pdf

 however this might be an illegal download site.

 Katsu OHTSUKA

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Re: [meteorite-list] Climate Change

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I missed the part where the Earth's climate was ever stable...

Michael in so. Cal.

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Galactic Stone  Ironworks via
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 97% of the world's scientists contrive an environmental crisis, but
 are foiled by a plucky band of billionaires and oil companies!

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 Former Obama Official: Climate Change Not 'Settled' Science
 Sunday, 21 Sep 2014 06:11 PM
 By Sandy Fitzgerald

 A former high-ranking Obama administration official says climate science
 and
 the implications of global warming are not settled, insisting such claims
 are misguided and stifle debate on the matter.

  Writing a Page One story in the Wall Street Journal Weekend Review
 section,
 Dr. Steven Koonin argues that group think among experts has been inhibiting
 the scientific and policy discussions that we need to have about our
 climate future.

  Koonin, who served at the Energy Department as President Obama's
 undersecretary for science in the Energy Department, is director of the
 Center for Urban Science and Progress at New York University.

 Urgent:  Do You Approve Or Disapprove of President Obama's Job Performance?
 Vote Now in Urgent Poll

  Koonin's position strikes a blow against climate change activists as
 People's Climate March organized demonstrations at more than 2,000
 locations
 worldwide.

  In New York, tens of thousands participated in the demonstration demanding
 urgent steps against carbon emissions as the United Nation's General
 Assembly opened.

  We often hear that there is a 'scientific consensus' about climate
 change, writes Koonin.  But as far as the computer models go, there isn't
 a useful consensus at the level of detail relevant to assessing human
 influences.

  Koonin says his extensive training as a computational physicist with a
 40-year career of scientific research and management, has given him an
 up-close knowledge of climate science.

  Detailed technical discussions during the past year with leading climate
 scientists have given me an even better sense of what we know, and don't
 know, about climate, writes Koonin.

  The point, Koonin says, isn't whether the climate is changing, as the
 climate has always changed and always will.

  Further, he says, there is little doubt that humans are influencing
 climate
 change, as greenhouse gases, mainly from carbon-dioxide emissions, have had
 an effect.

  But the main question remains about how the climate will change under both
 natural and man-made influences, which will affect energy and
 infrastructure
 choices.

  Those questions are the hardest ones to answer, writes Koonin.

  However, Koonin adds, while humans can cause serious issues for the
 climate, they are physically small in relation to the climate system as a
 whole, with additions to carbon dioxide to directly shift the
 atmosphere's
 natural greenhouse effect by only 1% to 2%.

  Other scientists have argued that the sun's solar activity has a much
 greater impact on earth temperatures that human activities.

  Meanwhile, while the Earth's average surface temperature has risen by 0.9
 degree Fahrenheit over the last quarter of the 20th century, the increase
 has been much slower over the past 16 years, while the human contribution
 to
 carbon dioxide has gone up by 25 percent.

  Yet the models famously fail to capture this slowing in the temperature
 rise, says Koonin. Several dozen different explanations for this failure
 have been offered, with ocean variability most likely playing a major role.
 But the whole episode continues to highlight the limits of our modeling.

  Koonin says current global warming models have limitations. Many advocates
 of global warming dismiss or downplay contradictory data, he writes.

  To this end, Koonin cites:
 .Models that show Arctic ice melting over the past 20 years forget to note
 the almost equal growth of ice across Antarctica, which he says is now at
 a
 record high.
 .A prediction that the lower atmosphere in the tropics will absorb much of
 the heat of the warming atmosphere has not materialized.
 .The fact global sea levels in the first half of the 20th century rose at
 almost the same rate as today.
 .Climate sensitivity- that is, the warming induced by a hypothetical
 doubling of carbon-dioxide concentration, he says is no different, and no
 more certain than it was 30 years ago.
 These, and many other factors that are still not decided will not allow
 lawmakers and the public to make a 

Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks show up from NIC crater....NOT very

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

I would also recommend to the Nicaraguan government that they procure
a more official sounding domain name.

Michael in so. Cal.

On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Ron Baalke via Meteorite-list
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:

 For Now It's All Hypotheses As Critics Say Theory May Be Meteor-wrong
 Today Nicaragua
 According to the official government website, El19digital.com, Nicaraguan 
 scientist, Jaime Incer Barquero, said that there is evidence of a meteor ...
 http://todaynicaragua.com/for-now-its-all-hypotheses-as-critics-say-theory-may-be-meteor-wrong/


 That scientist is a biologist:

 http://www.drycanal.com/news-incer.htm

 Ron
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Re: [meteorite-list] A Managua, Nicaragua meteorite?

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Rob and Marco, I agree, sounds very plausible.  However, if you read
what CNN has to say, they've already determined it's from a meteorite
(sheesh!): 
http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/08/tech/innovation/nicaragua-meteorite/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Michael in so. Cal.

On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Matson, Rob D. via Meteorite-list
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 Hi Marco:  your hypothesis is far more reasonable than a meteorite-caused 
 impact pit.  --Rob

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 Behalf Of Marco Langbroek via Meteorite-list
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 It is well known that arms caches were hidden in Nicaragua during the fight 
 between Sandinista's and Contra's in the 80-ies. In 1993, one of these 
 exploded in Managua. Maybe something like that happened again.

 Marco
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Re: [meteorite-list] NIC has bag of xxIT claiming that they have sample of meteorite from crater

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

So no one in Nicaragua has ever seen a meteorite before I guess?

Michael in so. Cal.

On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 2:13 PM, drtanuki via Meteorite-list
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 List,

 Hot off of the NIC Spanish press-
 https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=autotl=enjs=yprev=_thl=enie=UTF-8u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.laprensa.com.ni%2F2014%2F09%2F09%2Fambito%2F211373-gobierno-mantiene-hipotesis-meteorito%3Fmoviledit-text=act=url

 Enjoy!  I see some plant fiber in this xxIT sample.

 http://www.laprensa.com.ni/2014/09/09/ambito/211373-gobierno-mantiene-hipotesis-meteorito?movil

 Dirk Ross...Tokyo

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Re: [meteorite-list] Heritage Auction has 51 meteorite u for sale

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Or how about this one:
http://fineart.ha.com/itm/nature-and-science/nickel-iron-meteorite-tony-s-meteorite-shamokin-pennsylvania-usa/a/5192-73289.s

It's a meteorite?  (Quotes theirs, not mine)

It's a rock someone found once and someone said it might be a
meteortie.  And they're selling this?  Why?  Get it analyzed by a lab
and classified for crying out loud!  Unbelievable.  Is this ebay?

It's probably not even a meteorite...

Michael in so. Cal.

On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 4:59 AM, Michael Blood via Meteorite-list
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 I Shawn and all,
 This community doesn't care for paying 10% buyer's premium.
 How do you think they feel about paying 25% buyer's premium?
 I was personally struck with the lack of information when I
 Checked out the $12,500.00 minimum bid S-A as I could find no
 Mention anywhere as to what the weight wasit was nice to look
 At but I was left with no idea as to whether it was 35 grams or 35 kilos.
 Best to all,
 Michael


 On 9/7/14 12:39 PM, Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 wrote:

 Hello Listers

 For those of you looking for some magnificent meteorites, look no
 further. Heritage Auction house has some
 great meteoritic samples up for auction. Take a look at the link down
 below and enjoy.

 http://fineart.ha.com/c/search-results.zx?Ne=2130N=50+793+794+792+2088+429494
 4482+2305

 S

 Shawn Alan
 IMCA 1633
 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html
 Website http://meteoritefalls.com

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Re: [meteorite-list] Introduction and question

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Although I'm far from an expert, they look terrestrial to me, see
http://www.meteorite-times.com/bobs-findings/meteor-wrongs/ and
http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/2014/mw/mw.htm.

Michael in so. Cal.

On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Jan Marius Evang via Meteorite-list
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 Hi.
 I got hooked on meteorites by following Prof Mike Brown's coursera
 course. After this I started watching ebay and reading what I could
 google.

 I don't really know where I'm going with this hobby but I have aquired
 a lot of small meteorite samples, and I have ordered a microscope, at
 least. I also tried to cut open an unknown nwa meteorite with a
 rough tile-saw and could clearly see metal specks at least.


 The question:
 A friend of mine tells me that there are a lot of rocks that look like
 meteorites to be found in the area where he lives, and the story is
 that they are remains of an old volcano. The school's science teacher
 cut one open and decided it was Pyrite.

 A google search really gave me nothing except this facebook page, what
 is the feeling of the experts about this?

 https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.270484833096946.1073741837.263110637167699type=1

 I'd also be happy for other advice in the direction of my new hobby.

 Yours
 Jan Marius Evang
 Norway
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[meteorite-list] 6 days left!

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Greeting, team meteorite!

So far the show of support to send Marissa on a meteorite hunting
adventure has been both generous and inspiring.  With only 6 days left
in the funding campaign we're almost to our goal, and there are still
a ton of great perks to be claimed!  Please continue to contribute and
keep spreading the word, every little donation helps!
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/marissa-s-meteorite#home

Please also keep in mind that the funding goal is a minimum amount
that we estimated would be needed to get Marissa geared up and into
the field, however, if we can surpass the goal that would be fantastic
as it would provide for more flexibility in what Marissa is able to
purchase.  Any funds not used for the trip will be donated by Marissa
to charity. https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/marissa-s-meteorite#home

Again, I can't thank everyone enough who's helping to make this
happen, you all area rock stars!
Michael in so. Cal.
IMCA #3963



 On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Michael Mulgrew mikest...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hello, List.
 
  I am very pleased to share with you all the story of a young woman's quest
  to realize a long-time dream: finding her first meteorite.  What makes her
  story any different than that of countless other meteorite hunters to-be?
  Rather than try to explain it myself I will let Marissa speak for herself.
 
  I have a genetic disease called Spinal Muscular Atrophy type 2. The signal
  that travels down the spine and to the muscles telling them to move is gone
  and doesn't work. The only reason I have some function is due to a short
  back-up signal but it is short-lived and fades away. I have never walked on
  my own and when I was 4, I was in a wheelchair,
  permanently... ...I do not tell you this to make you feel bad or sorry for
  me. I'm not sorry. I'm very lucky. I love life and just want to enjoy it as
  much as possible. This disease made me who I am and helped me see how
  precious life is and I'm very thankful for that... ...I would love for this
  to be my first meteorite hunt but it may be my only hunt and I'd cherish
  every minute of the hunt.
 
  Several very generous members of our meteorite community have banded
  together help Marissa complete this quest, but they cannot do it alone.
 
  To read Marissa's full story and see what you can do to help, please visit:
  https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/marissa-s-meteorite#home
 
  Thank very much for your help, together we can make this dream come true!
  Michael in so. Cal.
  IMCA #3963
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Re: [meteorite-list] 6 days left

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Hello, Greg.

The link was in my original message that Bernd replied to:

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/marissa-s-meteorite#home

Thank you for your interest, and in advance for your contribution!

Michael in so. Cal.

On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Greg Hupé
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 Hello Bernd and Michael,

 I don't see Michael's post on how to make a donation for Marissa... Only six
 days left so I would like to try and help her reach that goal please
 email me how to make this happen.

 I hope she finds a meteorite... or 10 !! :)
 Greg



 -Original Message- From: Bernd V. Pauli via Meteorite-list
 Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 4:33 PM
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] 6 days left

 Hello List,

 Michael, please allow me to chime in. First of all let me tell you
 and the MetList what you and Rogan have so far done for our
 Marissa is so admirable and really deserves a lot of respect and
 quite a bit more. I don't wear hats but if I did it would be off to
 you!!!

 We are so very close to what is the minimum amount of money
 we need to make this lovable, young lady's dream come true!!!

 But ... we can do better ... this you can believe! I, too, did donate
 a certain amount of money but I won't tell you how much because
 this is absulutely unimportant!

 What does count is that you donate ... now matter how much! Some
 of us have hundreds, even thousands of mereorites in their collections
 and here is a young, passionate, meteorite-loving girl who deserves
 our respect and our support to make it happen!

 She does not complain about being disabled, she does not need our
 Oh, what a pity! ... she is much too positive to lament her personal
 fate.

 So, open your hearts and help ... it's not the first time we do that. You
 will all remember G.F. (no, not the Big Kahuna!) when we felt it was
 our duty as list members to help one of those who was part of our
 list family

 Thank you for reading this and
 thank you for your donation!!!

 Bernd


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Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Oum Dreyga 864g, H3-5 / Fell October 16 2003

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Corrected link:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Oum-Dreyga-Meteorite-H3-5-Fell-2003-16-October-864g-individual-showing-breccia-/221528730760?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3394242c88

On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Luc Labenne Meteorites via
Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 Hi List,

 Here is a big individual of an interesting H3-5, Oum Dreyga fell 2003, 
 October 2003. This individual is fresh as when it fell and show a nice 
 breccia.

 For sale, fell free to make an offer, several pictures on Ebay:


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  target=_blank 
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 Thank you for looking!

 Luc

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[meteorite-list] Free meteorites...

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

...with a $50-$500 donation!
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/marissa-s-meteorite#home

Salutations, listoids.

If you have ever looked for a meteorite, let alone have been lucky
enough to have found one, then you know what an amazing and
exhilarating experience it can be.  You have to power to help share
that experience with someone who will make history as the first person
to look for meteorites in a wheelchair (at least we're fairly certain,
if there's another out there please speak up).

Help make Marissa's dream a reality, please help by spreading the word
and donating today.

A sincerest thank you,
Michael in so. Cal.

On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Michael Mulgrew mikest...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello again, List.

 I am happy to report that we are just over 1/3 of the way through the
 crowd source funding campaign to get Marissa out on her very first
 meteorite hunt, and funding is keeping pace with 34% of the projected
 funds already raised.  That is fantastic, Marissa is so grateful for
 all of the support she has received thus far.  But we're not there
 yet!

 If you have already donated, thank you!  If you have been wanting to
 donate but are holding off, now is the time to jump.  New perks have
 just been added, don't miss out!

 Whether you are able to donate $1 or $100, every bit helps get Marissa
 into the field.  Please continue to spread the word and help raise
 awareness of the campaign, and of course, if you are able, continue to
 donate.  This is bound to be a wonderful experience for a deserving
 young woman.  To donate, please visit
 https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/marissa-s-meteorite#home and click
 CONTRIBUTE NOW.

 Thank you again for your continued support,
 Michael in so. Cal.

 On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Michael Mulgrew mikest...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello, List.

 I am very pleased to share with you all the story of a young woman's quest
 to realize a long-time dream: finding her first meteorite.  What makes her
 story any different than that of countless other meteorite hunters to-be?
 Rather than try to explain it myself I will let Marissa speak for herself.

 I have a genetic disease called Spinal Muscular Atrophy type 2. The signal
 that travels down the spine and to the muscles telling them to move is gone
 and doesn't work. The only reason I have some function is due to a short
 back-up signal but it is short-lived and fades away. I have never walked on
 my own and when I was 4, I was in a wheelchair,
 permanently... ...I do not tell you this to make you feel bad or sorry for
 me. I'm not sorry. I'm very lucky. I love life and just want to enjoy it as
 much as possible. This disease made me who I am and helped me see how
 precious life is and I'm very thankful for that... ...I would love for this
 to be my first meteorite hunt but it may be my only hunt and I'd cherish
 every minute of the hunt.

 Several very generous members of our meteorite community have banded
 together help Marissa complete this quest, but they cannot do it alone.

 To read Marissa's full story and see what you can do to help, please visit:
 https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/marissa-s-meteorite#home

 Thank very much for your help, together we can make this dream come true!
 Michael in so. Cal.
 IMCA #3963
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Re: [meteorite-list] Crowd source campaign, help a young woman realize her dream

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Hello again, List.

I am happy to report that we are just over 1/3 of the way through the
crowd source funding campaign to get Marissa out on her very first
meteorite hunt, and funding is keeping pace with 34% of the projected
funds already raised.  That is fantastic, Marissa is so grateful for
all of the support she has received thus far.  But we're not there
yet!

If you have already donated, thank you!  If you have been wanting to
donate but are holding off, now is the time to jump.  New perks have
just been added, don't miss out!

Whether you are able to donate $1 or $100, every bit helps get Marissa
into the field.  Please continue to spread the word and help raise
awareness of the campaign, and of course, if you are able, continue to
donate.  This is bound to be a wonderful experience for a deserving
young woman.  To donate, please visit
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/marissa-s-meteorite#home and click
CONTRIBUTE NOW.

Thank you again for your continued support,
Michael in so. Cal.

On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Michael Mulgrew mikest...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello, List.

 I am very pleased to share with you all the story of a young woman's quest
 to realize a long-time dream: finding her first meteorite.  What makes her
 story any different than that of countless other meteorite hunters to-be?
 Rather than try to explain it myself I will let Marissa speak for herself.

 I have a genetic disease called Spinal Muscular Atrophy type 2. The signal
 that travels down the spine and to the muscles telling them to move is gone
 and doesn't work. The only reason I have some function is due to a short
 back-up signal but it is short-lived and fades away. I have never walked on
 my own and when I was 4, I was in a wheelchair,
 permanently... ...I do not tell you this to make you feel bad or sorry for
 me. I'm not sorry. I'm very lucky. I love life and just want to enjoy it as
 much as possible. This disease made me who I am and helped me see how
 precious life is and I'm very thankful for that... ...I would love for this
 to be my first meteorite hunt but it may be my only hunt and I'd cherish
 every minute of the hunt.

 Several very generous members of our meteorite community have banded
 together help Marissa complete this quest, but they cannot do it alone.

 To read Marissa's full story and see what you can do to help, please visit:
 https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/marissa-s-meteorite#home

 Thank very much for your help, together we can make this dream come true!
 Michael in so. Cal.
 IMCA #3963
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[meteorite-list] Marissa's Meteorite

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Hello, List.

I am very pleased to share with you all the story of a young woman's
quest to realize a long-time dream: finding her first meteorite.  What
makes her story any different than that of countless other meteorite
hunters to-be?  Rather than try to explain it myself I will let
Marissa speak for herself.

I have a genetic disease called Spinal Muscular Atrophy type 2. The
signal that travels down the spine and to the muscles telling them to
move is gone and doesn't work. The only reason I have some function is
due to a short back-up signal but it is short-lived and fades away. I
have never walked on my own and when I was 4, I was in a wheelchair,
permanently... ...I do not tell you this to make you feel bad or sorry
for me. I'm not sorry. I'm very lucky. I love life and just want to
enjoy it as much as possible. This disease made me who I am and helped
me see how precious life is and I'm very thankful for that... ...I
would love for this to be my first meteorite hunt but it may be my
only hunt and I'd cherish every minute of the hunt.

Several very generous members of our meteorite community have banded
together help Marissa complete this quest, but they cannot do it
alone.  Achieving this goal will require the broad support of our
global group of like-minded souls, all infatuated with rocks from
space.

To read Marissa's full story and see what you can do to help, please visit:
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/marissa-s-meteorite

Thank very much for your help, together we can make this dream come true!
Michael in so. Cal.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Sculpture by Katie Paterson

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Melting a meteorite and reforming it is a little bit like compressing
and merging together these layers of time, history and space.
Eventually I would like to send the meteorite back into Space,

Replace compressing and merging with destroying and then you have
a valid statement.  Once melted and reformed, referring to it as a
meteorite is no
longer correct.

Michael in so. Cal.

On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 6:14 AM, Peter Davidson via Meteorite-list
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 Dear Listoids

 I make no claim to be an expert on contemporary art/artists, nevertheless I 
 have worked with a number of artists over the last few years in my role as a 
 mineral curator for the National Museums and this has allowed me to get a 
 glimpse of the way different artists devise, plan and execute their works. I 
 haven't had the pleasure of working with Katie, but I do know her and I have 
 met her and we have had some long discussions about meteorites and she does 
 feature meteorites and space in her work a lot. So I feel I ought to give my 
 angle on this as well as try and explain her work on the Campo using her own 
 words.

 The original concept was formulated in around 2010/11 and the finished cast 
 was exhibited in London in 2012. At about that time she gave an interview and 
 the following quote is lifted directly from the published article:

 ...The artist domesticates the cosmos' immensity: she gives the unfathomable 
 a human scale, putting it within our reach. The cast meteorite will likely 
 be placed on Exhibition Road (close to the Natural History Museum) in a 
 discrete place, where people can sit around it and be able to touch it, she 
 says. Most meteorites have been travelling around space for over four and a 
 half billion years. They are older than the Earth and are the oldest objects 
 on Earth. I like the idea of this vast cosmic history embedded inside them. 
 Melting a meteorite and reforming it is a little bit like compressing and 
 merging together these layers of time, history and space. Eventually I would 
 like to send the meteorite back into Space, though that might not be for many 
 years.

 Well the many years have now past and Katie has send the recast meteorite 
 into space.

 Hope this helps.

 Cheers

 Peter Davidson
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Re: [meteorite-list] New crater in Siberia?

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Their most plausible theory involves global warming?  Global warming
isn't even a plausible theory any more, ask a climatologist.

This article acknowleges that it is not a meteorite crater, which is
apparent from the pictures:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-2693105/Giant-hole-appears-Siberia-Huge-crater-emerges-end-world.html

A spokesman for the ministry's Yamal branch has ruled out a
meteorite, but says it is too early to say what caused the hole.

'We can definitely say that it is not a meteorite,' he says.

Michael in so. Cal.

On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 This is not a meteorite crater, unless you think meteorites drill holes 
 hundreds of feet deep.

 Michael Farmer

 Sent from my iPad

 On Jul 16, 2014, at 9:01 AM, Chauncey Walden via Meteorite-list 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:

 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newsvideo/10970468/Mysterious-giant-hole-appears-in-Siberia.html
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Re: [meteorite-list] New crater in Siberia?

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

I recognize that regional/localized warming could account for it, but
that's not what they wrote.  They should have phrased their hypothesis
better.

Michael in so. Cal.

On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Yinan Wang veom...@gmail.com wrote:
 Don't dismiss something just because it uses the phrase Global
 Warming. In this case all it takes is regional warming in the arctic
 circle to release methane previously frozen in the permafrost, which
 can ignite underground and explode.



 On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 Their most plausible theory involves global warming?  Global warming
 isn't even a plausible theory any more, ask a climatologist.

 This article acknowleges that it is not a meteorite crater, which is
 apparent from the pictures:
 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-2693105/Giant-hole-appears-Siberia-Huge-crater-emerges-end-world.html

 A spokesman for the ministry's Yamal branch has ruled out a
 meteorite, but says it is too early to say what caused the hole.

 'We can definitely say that it is not a meteorite,' he says.

 Michael in so. Cal.

 On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 This is not a meteorite crater, unless you think meteorites drill holes 
 hundreds of feet deep.

 Michael Farmer

 Sent from my iPad

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 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:

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Re: [meteorite-list] Real or not?

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Earth rocks.

Michael in so. Cal.
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On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Zsolt Kereszty via Meteorite-list
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 Hi Listers!

 Do you know this guy in E-Bay?

 http://www.ebay.com/usr/ardeiu59?_trksid=p2047675.l2559

 It looks likes fakes.

 What do you think?

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Re: [meteorite-list] Massive meteor event over Southeastern Australia

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

It looks like space junk to these untrained eyes, too slow for a
cosmic velocity object.

Michael in so. Cal.

On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Jeff Kuyken via Meteorite-list
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 There was a huge meteor event over southeastern Australia tonight that was 
 seen across both Melbourne and Sydney. Just google news search meteor and 
 there are videos piling up online everywhere. Twitter is also alive.

 Just wondering if the gurus on the list are able to check any space junk 
 re-entry sources? At first, I thought the first video I was sent was a repost 
 of Hayabusa re entry or something similar. Very slow and unusual breakup. 
 Would be interested to hear other thoughts.

 www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWNEb5LY348

 Cheers,

 Jeff

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Re: [meteorite-list] Oued Awlitis 001 - Serendipity !

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Ah, the old found a lunar meteorite while looking for firewood
routine, I hate it when that happens!

:)

Sarcastically,
Michael in so. Cal.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Poland Archaeology - Caveman Worshipped Meteorite

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

The rock doesn't look like a meteorite to me.  They do not indicate
why they think it was a meteorite (since when do archaeologists know
how to ID a meteorite?), who analyzed it, or what type of meteorite it
is supposed to be.  I say it's a piece of sandstone until a laboratory
says otherwise.

Michael in so. Cal.

On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 1:54 PM, drtanuki via Meteorite-list
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 List,
 The Latest Worldwide Meteor/Meteorite News 02JUL2014
 Archaeologists Say Cavemen Worshipped Meteorite After it Fell to Earth in 
 Poland
 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2014/07/the-latest-worldwide-meteormeteorite.html
 ]
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Re: [meteorite-list] Can someone check this for me?

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Guilty!

Michael in so. Cal.

On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Gaetan Cormier via Meteorite-list
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 Michael Mulgrew started a thread about meteorite cutting and gives a bunch
 of links including your page about meteorite cutting.


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 Le 2014-06-20 22:43, Galactic Stone  Ironworks via Meteorite-list a écrit :

 Hi Listees,

 I was looking through my server logs and visitor stats today and found
 a URL that sent about a dozen visitors to my site.  I tried visiting
 the URL, but it is a member's only forum and I am not a member, so I
 cannot see it.  I do not want to bother with registering and then
 waiting to be approved, just to check a single URL.  I know some
 members of this List are also members of this forum, so I have a small
 favor to ask - can someone visit the URL and copy/paste the text on
 the page and email it to me?  I am curious what the page/discussion
 says.

 Link : http://meteorites.ning.com/forum/topics/meteorite-cutting

 Thanks in advance!

 MikeG



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Re: [meteorite-list] Prices for SouthWest Dry Lake Finds???

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Adam, your posts come off a bit alarmist.  Please cite the laws by
Title, Chapter, and Part/Section rather than just saying they turned
the rules into laws.  Please leave opinions and conspiracies out
of it, just state fact.

The BLM advisory memorandum regarding meteorites expired in September of 2013.

My dealings with the BLM have all been pleasant and professional.  I
think I got further along the permit process than anyone else, but
those guidelines do not apply any longer from what I can tell.*

Michael in so. Cal.

* - I'm not a lawyer

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 The BLM adopted the UNESCO rules designed to protect cultural properties and
 turned them into laws.  These rules have been twisted into law by government
 servants overstepping their authority with no debate or intelligent input
 whatsoever.   I talked at great length over 10 years ago with the late
 Richard Norton which sounded the alarm bells to anybody who would listen.
 The BLM strengthened their position with the 10 pound limit and commercial
 permits which will never be issued based on television shows, falsely
 perceiving that meteorites are lying around like Easter Eggs and are worth a
 fortune.

 Not too many people have the resources to fight the federal government. Just
 talk to the miners that lost the Old Woman meteorite.   Our group,
 consisting of seven people, were warned by BLM agents from the Needles
 California office that meteorites are not to be resold and that they monitor
 eBay and other outlets.  Four prominent meteorite collector/dealers and a
 scientist were on this trip.   I was personally threatened, as were other
 team members, by them and will leave it at that.  Others on this list have
 been warned as well.  I will leave it up to other hunters to step forward
 with their unsavory experiences with the BLM if they feel so inclined.

 It is best to search on private property with written permission if want to
 resell your finds.  There has been  a lot of press about artifact hunters
 having their entire collections confiscated if they did not have provenance
 indicating their finds were made on private land.  Even then, you are not
 allowed to dig on private property for them.  They have to be surface finds.
 Remember, the laws written for artifacts and fossils now apply to
 meteorites even though meteorites were never mentioned in the UNESCO
 guidelines which were adopted into law.

 Jim, I am surprised that with all of the hunting you have engaged in over
 the years that you have not been personally involved with the BLM in the
 field.  Sometimes you run into a reasonable agent, but more than likely, you
 will run into one looking exert their authority.

 Adam





 - Original Message - From: Jim Wooddell via Meteorite-list
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 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 5:06 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Prices for SouthWest Dry Lake Finds???



 Hi Adam and all,

 Just for clarification on so called BLM Rules.

 The BLM put out a paper a while back the stirred up a ruckus.  The paper
 was a GUIDELINE for area supervisors
 to implement or not.  To be clear, they are not rules.  And, the BLM has
 failed to issues claimed permits for
 commercial ventures when ask.

 If you can show me where these guidelines have become rules and have
 actually been implemented, I'd like to see it.

 Jim



 On 5/20/2014 4:25 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list wrote:

 Hi Jim and All,

 Unless they predate 1972, meteorites found on public land cannot be used
 for commercial purposes according to the BLM interpretations rendering them
 without commercial value.  This is even before the new laws limited
 meteorite recoveries to 10 pounds a year or less without a commercial
 permit.  The interesting thing is not a single commercial permit has ever
 been issued despite being applied for.

 Sorry for the bad news,

 That is why it so important to treat private land owners with the utmost
 respect in order to gain access to unrestricted search areas.

 Adam


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Re: [meteorite-list] Prices for SouthWest Dry Lake Finds???

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

In summary, I applied for a commercial permit as soon as the
memorandum was issued.  Over the course of 14 months my application
was routed successfully through 2 or 3 district offices, I paid the
application fee ($115), then it went to the State office and
effectively died there.  The final direction was, I have received
further direction from our State Office, and the recommendation at
this time is to not process any meteorite applications until we get
further guidance/clarification from the BLM Washington Office.  My
application fee was refunded.

Michael in so. Cal.

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 The UNESCO guidelines have been well discussed on this List.  Richard Norton
 discussed them in great detail and I do not consider him an alarmist.  I am
 speaking from personal experience however I have provided links to these
 laws in the archives.

 Please share your experiences on trying to obtain a commercial permit.  This
 would be useful first-hand information

 Best Regards,

 Adam


 - Original Message - From: Michael Mulgrew mikest...@gmail.com
 To: Raremeteorites raremeteori...@centurylink.net
 Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 9:28 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Prices for SouthWest Dry Lake Finds???


 Adam, your posts come off a bit alarmist.  Please cite the laws by
 Title, Chapter, and Part/Section rather than just saying they turned
 the rules into laws.  Please leave opinions and conspiracies out
 of it, just state fact.

 The BLM advisory memorandum regarding meteorites expired in September of
 2013.

 My dealings with the BLM have all been pleasant and professional.  I
 think I got further along the permit process than anyone else, but
 those guidelines do not apply any longer from what I can tell.*

 Michael in so. Cal.

 * - I'm not a lawyer

 On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:

 The BLM adopted the UNESCO rules designed to protect cultural properties
 and
 turned them into laws.  These rules have been twisted into law by
 government
 servants overstepping their authority with no debate or intelligent input
 whatsoever.   I talked at great length over 10 years ago with the late
 Richard Norton which sounded the alarm bells to anybody who would listen.
 The BLM strengthened their position with the 10 pound limit and
 commercial
 permits which will never be issued based on television shows, falsely
 perceiving that meteorites are lying around like Easter Eggs and are
 worth a
 fortune.

 Not too many people have the resources to fight the federal government.
 Just
 talk to the miners that lost the Old Woman meteorite.   Our group,
 consisting of seven people, were warned by BLM agents from the Needles
 California office that meteorites are not to be resold and that they
 monitor
 eBay and other outlets.  Four prominent meteorite collector/dealers and a
 scientist were on this trip.   I was personally threatened, as were other
 team members, by them and will leave it at that.  Others on this list
 have
 been warned as well.  I will leave it up to other hunters to step forward
 with their unsavory experiences with the BLM if they feel so inclined.

 It is best to search on private property with written permission if want
 to
 resell your finds.  There has been  a lot of press about artifact hunters
 having their entire collections confiscated if they did not have
 provenance
 indicating their finds were made on private land.  Even then, you are not
 allowed to dig on private property for them.  They have to be surface
 finds.
 Remember, the laws written for artifacts and fossils now apply to
 meteorites even though meteorites were never mentioned in the UNESCO
 guidelines which were adopted into law.

 Jim, I am surprised that with all of the hunting you have engaged in over
 the years that you have not been personally involved with the BLM in the
 field.  Sometimes you run into a reasonable agent, but more than likely,
 you
 will run into one looking exert their authority.

 Adam





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 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 5:06 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Prices for SouthWest Dry Lake Finds???



 Hi Adam and all,

 Just for clarification on so called BLM Rules.

 The BLM put out a paper a while back the stirred up a ruckus.  The paper
 was a GUIDELINE for area supervisors
 to implement or not.  To be clear, they are not rules.  And, the BLM has
 failed to issues claimed permits for
 commercial ventures when ask.

 If you can show me where these guidelines have become rules and have
 actually been implemented, I'd like to see it.

 Jim



 On 5/20/2014 4:25 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list wrote:


 Hi Jim and All,

 Unless they 

Re: [meteorite-list] Artifact (yes) /Meteorite (???)

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Looks like a lava rock.

Michael in so. Cal.

On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 7:57 PM, William Feek via Meteorite-list
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 Hi All,

 Today I purchased a Native American artifact on ebay which looks like it was 
 made from a type 3 meteorite, one with a low subtype, check it out 
 here

 http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-Pestle-Artifact-Tool-Minnesota-/331197226957?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3FLH_Sold%3D1%26_from%3DR40%26LH_Complete%3D1%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D331197226957%26_rdc%3D1nma=truesi=1gqoUs%252FqrTZ%252BfJo1ou3oWHcsyco%253Dorig_cvip=truert=nc_trksid=p2047675.l2557

 The seller used flash when shooting the images, doing so causes them to be 
 blown out, so to counteract that I edited them in Microsoft Office by 
 reducing the midtones by 38 which much improved them, the different colors 
 show up a lot better and the stones true overall darkness is better able to 
 be seen.


 The seller wasn't sure what kind of artifact it is and implied it's a pestle, 
 I have both pestles and plummets and this sure looks like a plummet to me. 
 Maybe it's made out of a meteorite, maybe it's not, that remains to be seen, 
 but if it is then I'm wondering what I'd do with such a thing, should it be 
 cut and classified just like any other meteorite, should it be left as is 
 because it's unique? What would you do with it, or any other artifact for 
 that matter which is made from a stony meteorite, if it was yours?


 It'll be an anxious wait till it arrives, but when it does and if it truly 
 does end up being meteoric, I'll follow up with some nice images of it.


 William
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