Re: [meteorite-list] Octahedrites density

2021-05-11 Thread Murray Paulson via Meteorite-list
As Anne Black remarked, Ocathedrites are a member of the Iron group of
meteorites.

I have measured the Sg of some of my Octahedrites...

Cape York at 7.89 gm/cc,
Whitecourt Iron 7.67 gm/cc
Gibeon Iron at 7.89 gm/cc

Murray


On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 12:03 PM Ing. Yasmani Ceballos Izquierdo via
Meteorite-list  wrote:

> Hello!
> Irons have a density about 7 or 8 g/m3 but what's a range for an
> octahedrites?
> Thanks
>
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[meteorite-list] More USA Lunar meteorite strewn fields, ... again

2019-12-05 Thread Murray Paulson via Meteorite-list
Found this enterprising person selling river rocks at a good profit...

https://www.etsy.com/ca/shop/NHLUNARMETEORITES?ref=simple-shop-header-name_id=756282243


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[meteorite-list] Black Beauty paper

2019-05-03 Thread Murray Paulson via Meteorite-list
Good day:

Here is another interesting paper on the Black Beauty meteorite.

Murray

https://phys.org/news/2019-05-state-of-the-art-imaging-uncovers-life-history.html?utm_source=nwletter_medium=email_campaign=daily-nwletter
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Re: [meteorite-list] Extra-terrestrial Hypatia stone rattles solar system status quo

2018-01-09 Thread Murray Paulson via Meteorite-list
Hi Tommy:

A quick search shows that the scientists are on it and it is an
intriguing rock. The interstellar interloper that passed through the
solar system recently shows us that there is material from outside our
solar system and maybe these guys have found such a sample. Very cool!

Murray

https://www.hou.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2015/eposter/1312.pdf

On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 5:28 PM, Tommy via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
>   Have any of you folks heard about this and if so what are your thoughts?
>
> Regards!
>
> Tom
>
>
> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/01/180109112437.htm
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Re: [meteorite-list] BLM Public Land

2018-01-09 Thread Murray Paulson via Meteorite-list
Hi Michael:

Thanks so much for the clarification. That is a very positive outcome
for this threaCheers.

Murray

On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 3:05 PM, Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
> Instruction Memorandum No. 2012-182
> Expires:  09/30/2013
>
> It no longer is applicable, nor was it ever truly.  I got further than
> anyone in attempting to procure one of their so-called "permits"; they
> were never intended to be issued to anyone, nor is that memo a law.
> As Jim correctly points out, the law is silent on the meteorite front.
>
> Michael in so. Cal.
>
> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 9:12 AM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list
>  wrote:
>> The law was updated on September 10, 2012.  They felt the law need to be
>> updated in order to protect meteorites after seeing all of TV shows on how
>> valuable they were. All these laws have a genesis to the Antiquities Act of
>> 1906 which has been heavily abused by politicians including massive land
>> grabs.
>>
>> Here is a link directly to the BLM updates which directly relates to
>> meteorites:
>>
>> https://www.blm.gov/policy/im-2012-182-0
>>
>> The BLM will provide you with PDF files if you want to research in depth.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/9/2018 8:05 AM, Jim Wooddell wrote:
>>>
>>> What date are you referring to in regards to  43 CFR 8365.1-5???
>>>
>>> GPO has the 2001 version and there is not one mention of meteorites nor
>>> any of the wording below.
>>> Can you reference a link to the CFR in question?
>>>
>>> My Ref:
>>>
>>> https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-2001-title43-vol2/pdf/CFR-2001-title43-vol2-sec8365-1-5.pdf
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> Sent from Mail  for
>>> Windows 10
>>>
>>> *From: *Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list
>>> 
>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 9, 2018 8:41 AM
>>> *To: *metlist 
>>>
>>> *Subject: *Re: [meteorite-list] BLM Public Land
>>>
>>> 43 CFR 8365.1-5
>>>
>>> Collection of meteorites is limited to certain public lands. Public
>>>
>>> lands closed to casual collection include: developed recreation sites,
>>>
>>> certain units of the National Landscape Conservation System, areas
>>>
>>> excluded from casual collection in a Land Use Plan such as an Area of
>>>
>>> Critical Environmental Concern (ACEC) or a wilderness area, and areas
>>>
>>> closed by supplemental regulations;
>>>
>>> Individuals are limited to collecting what can be easily hand-carried,
>>>
>>> up to a maximum of ten pounds of meteorites per individual, per year;
>>>
>>> Only surface collection of meteorites using non-motorized and
>>>
>>> non-mechanical equipment is allowed (metal detectors may be used); and
>>>
>>> Casually-collected meteorites are for personal use only, and may not be
>>>
>>> bartered or sold for commercial purposes.
>>>
>>> On 1/9/2018 4:50 AM, Jim Wooddell wrote:
>>>
>>>  > What law?  Can you please reference the CFR’s?
>>>
>>>  >
>>>
>>>  > Kind Regards,
>>>
>>>  >
>>>
>>>  > Jim Wooddell
>>>
>>>  >
>>>
>>>  > Sent from Mail  for
>>>
>>>  > Windows 10
>>>
>>>  >
>>>
>>>  > *From: *Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list
>>>
>>>  > 
>>>
>>>  > *Sent: *Monday, January 8, 2018 5:23 PM
>>>
>>>  > *To: *Raremeteorites 
>>>
>>>  > *Cc: *metlist 
>>>
>>>  > *Subject: *Re: [meteorite-list] BLM Public Land
>>>
>>>  >
>>>
>>>  > I haven't hunted meteorites - other than the occasional fall or
>>> probable
>>>
>>>  > fall - in many years and no I never had any trouble with any government
>>>
>>>  > or state agency relating to meteorites or anything else.
>>>
>>>  >
>>>
>>>  > On Jan 8, 2018 2:58 PM, "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list"
>>>
>>>  > >>
>>>  > > wrote:
>>>
>>>  >
>>>
>>>  > Hi Ruben and List,
>>>
>>>  >
>>>
>>>  > Ruben, didn't you have problems with the BLM?
>>>
>>>  >
>>>
>>>  > I was just trying to save some dealers from grief.  I do not agree
>>>
>>>  > with the new laws, that were incorporated after much press about
>>> the
>>>
>>>  > monetary value of meteorites aired a few years back, but still
>>> abide
>>>
>>>  > by them.
>>>
>>>  >
>>>
>>>  > Anybody dealing meteorites found on public land is at serious risk
>>>
>>>  > of prosecution since they are making themselves low-hanging fruit
>>>
>>>  > for competitors and agents alike.  It only takes one phone call.
>>>
>>>  > Not only that, dealers who break the law by selling these finds,
>>>
>>>  > jeopardize the collection of meteorites on public lands for the
>>> rest
>>>
>>>  > of us.  Dealers breaking the law can be used as examples for even
>>>
>>>  > stricter laws forbidding the hunting of meteorites altogether.

[meteorite-list] Looking for NWA 6259

2015-11-30 Thread Murray Paulson via Meteorite-list
Hi

I have one additional request for a rare Iron. Does anyone have a
slice of NWA 6259 that they would like to part with.

Once again, please send details and a photo. Wt. $

Thanks very much.

Murray Paulson
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[meteorite-list] Looking for NWA 6167

2015-11-27 Thread Murray Paulson via Meteorite-list
Hi:
Re: NWA 6167

I am looking for a slice of this meteorite or a complete
specimen.Please email me off list if you have one. along with its size
and price. Photos would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Murray Paulson

murray.paul...@gmail.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] Russian Scientists Find Crater in Meteorite-Hit Lake

2013-03-21 Thread Murray Paulson
Hi:

Do we know how deep this lake is? 10 meters may or may not be much of
an issue. A second thing is the possibility that the ice shifted since
the impact.

Murray

On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Bernd V. Pauli bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote:
 Popov said the crater is not located directly beneath the
  hole in the ice, but is some 10 meters to one side of it.

 = the bolide's flight path had a slope of 16½° [?!]

 Cheers, Bernd


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Re: [meteorite-list] [off topic] New measures to protect fossils

2013-02-27 Thread Murray Paulson
Good evening:

Just to continue the rant, you can buy gold coated Tungsten bars in
China. They are sold as Executive Novely items or  Executive paper
weights. I had one company email me with photos and a price list.

Here is the story if you are interested. By the way, Tungsten has
almost exactly the same density as Gold, 19.3 gm /cc.

http://www.businessinsider.com/tungsten-filled-gold-bars-found-in-new-york-2012-9

Murray



On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Unfortunately you are correct, we are to blame.  I think we are becoming a 
 Wall Mart society where Chinese garbage is tolerated by people with an 
 everything including people are disposable attitude. Why else would anybody 
 purchase products with labels on them like Genuine intimation chrome plated 
 plastic knobs, Genuine Pleather, Simulated Naugahyde or Realistic hard 
 wood?

 Have you ever notice a woozy feeling after being in Wall Mart for more than a 
 few minutes?  My best guess it is all of the Chinese products degassing 
 Benzene, Dioxins and other deadly gasses used in manufacture.   Without Wall 
 Mart, I am sure the Chinese economy would be crippled.

 Enough from me, now lets talk about the number one marketeer of fake iron 
 meteorites,

 You guessed it,

 Adam


 - Original Message -

 From: h...@meteorhall.com h...@meteorhall.com
 To: Garry Stewart xe...@yahoo.com
 Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 1:51 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [off topic] New measures to protect fossils

 The Ministry of Tofu? Make that the Ministry of Meteorites, some time
 soon. Get your cement achondrites, your hematite irons, and other assorted
 fakes from China, at a really good price! But hey, I got this really nice
 5g achondrite from Vesta for only $20.00!
 Fred
 PS: Or you can come to Colorado and get your fake meteorites from Steve C.
 (unless he is back in jail!)

 Sorry for replying off topic, but this is the latest Chinese scam out
 there.  And we thought we had seen it all.
 http://www.treehugger.com/green-food/fake-concrete-filled-walnuts-sold-china.html


 Â
 Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans.
 John Lennon



 - Original Message -
 From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com
 To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Cc:
 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 2:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New measures to protect fossils

 I think all Chinese goods should be taken off of the U.S. market until
 they are
 proven worthy.  Fake Chinese medications that made it into American
 pharmacies
 almost killed my mother-in-law.

 I had a GE microwave that failed after 13 months.  I thought it had a
 lifetime
 warranty but after reading the small print it was a limited lifetime
 warranty  The only things covered for a lifetime were the hinges, door
 handle and power cord.  The rest was covered for 12 months.  I turned
 it around
 and was appalled to see the made in China sticker on the back of a GE
 appliance!  I also had an Igloo stainless steel bar fridge fail after 8
 months
 with nearly the same warranty as the GE appliance. I was simply out the
 money on
 the GE but got a new Igloo fridge which failed again after 14 months.Â
 It could
 have caught my garage on fire as it was a smoker!


 Doesn't anybody take pride in workmanship these days?

 I think fake Chinese fossils, meteorites, artifacts, gemstones and
 anything else
 they can make a buck on are the least of our concerns!  I am sure
 people have
 died due to bogus Chinese medications.  I won't touch generic meds!Â
 It
 seems these days our own government cares very little otherwise they
 would do
 something about it.



 Adam

 Â



 - Original Message -
 From: Galactic Stone  Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com
 To: Paul H. inselb...@cox.net
 Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:14 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New measures to protect fossils

 They should be working on a way to stop the flow of fake fossils out
 of China.  Half of the fossils coming out of China now are bogus.  I
 wouldn't touch a Chinese fossil with the proverbial ten-foot pole.

 Best regards,

 MikeG


 On 2/27/13, Paul H. inselb...@cox.net wrote:
  New measures to protect fossils
  By WANG QIAN, chinadaily, February 27, 2013
  http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2013-02/27/content_16261862.htm

  The article does not say anything about meteorites.
  However, if they are rethinking rules about fossils,
  they might also be rethinking the rules about meteorites.

  A compilation of web pages about rock and fossil
  collecting for various states and countries is
  Fruitbat's Pdf Library - Fossil Collecting –
  Management, Laws And Regulations at

 

Re: [meteorite-list] two fireballs

2013-02-25 Thread Murray Paulson
Hi Jodie:

Fantastic images! Thanks for the converted files. I would never have
realized that there was so much there!

Murray

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Jodie Reynolds
spacero...@spaceballoon.org wrote:
 Hello Steve,

 I have more than 70 patents in the space in nineteen countries.
 I'm the Chief Technology Officer for a company that designs and sells
 digital video surveillance equipment -- I sell close to 30,000 systems a year.

 My masters degrees are in mathematics and electrical engineering with
 an emphasis on optical physics, and I've been in the digital video
 space inventing compression algorithms for more than two dozen years.

 So, yeah, let's go ahead and investigate my snow job, shall we?


 Most cheap dash cameras being imported now are 1080p/30.  1080p/20 is a
 favored option to maximize SD card usage.  They differ from ATSC in
 that they don't generally support 1080p/60.

 For Example:
 http://www.amazon.com/1080P-Dashboard-Camera-Accident-Vision/dp/B0099KGDQ2
 http://www.rakuten.com/prod/new-real-hd-1080p-h264-5m-car-dashboard-camera-recorder-accident-dvr/225640553.html?listingId=174887992
 http://www.espow.com/product_info.php?products_id=50672currency=USDgsc=googleshoppinggclid=CMfrtJmH07UCFYKDQgodMSoAAQ

 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Full-Car-DVR-HD-1080P-Cam-Recorder-Camcorder-Vehicle-Dashboard-Camera-F900LHD-/251182177426?pt=US_Surveillance_Digital_Video_Recorders_Cardshash=item3a7b9fdc92
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-DVR-HD-1080P-Cam-Recorder-Camcorder-Vehicle-Dashboard-Camera-Hot-Sale-/330840799556?pt=US_Surveillance_Digital_Video_Recorders_Cardshash=item4d07a5f944
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/GPS-FULL-HD-1080P-Car-Camera-DVR-GPS-Logger-Vehicle-Black-Box-Video-Recorder-/320741840995?pt=US_Surveillance_Digital_Video_Recorders_Cardshash=item4aadb41863


 No dash cameras have been produced for public consumption at sub-D1
 in at least five years.  Mobile DVRs will often offer CIF for
 multiple channel recording however (a limitation of the NTSC or PAL
 scan converter).

 640x280 is a non-existent format, as that would be 0.4375, not ending
 on a byte boundary.  You're thinking of 240 lines. And it wouldn't be
 640 (square pixels), it would be 704.  Or perhaps you're thinking of
 SIF in a 525 line domain, which would be 352x240, or CIF in the 625
 line domain (352x288).

 The container format was, in fact, MP4.  The codec used for
 compression was AVC.  AVC is aka MPEG4 AVC (Advanced Video Codec),
 which is also known as h.264 **see below.

 The original submitted video was 1080p.  Youtube has offered 1080p
 since 2009.   
 http://youtube-global.blogspot.com/2009/11/1080p-hd-comes-to-youtube.html

 We can see the offered streams from youtube as/per:
 http://www.spaceballoon.org/available-streams.jpg


 There is no such video container or codec as pmg that I'm aware of -
  Would you provide the FOURCC for that?

  My stills are in PNG (Portable Network Graphics) as I noted
 originally.  __MPG__ is the Motion
 Pictures expert Group [of which I've been a member off-and-on as well
 as on several working groups over the years), and MPEG1, MPEG2, MPEG4, MPEG 
 AVC (aka h.264,
 aka MPEG7 aka MPEG4 Layer 7, etc.) are all possible with additional 
 qualifications of things
 such as differing levels of motion prediction, different transport
 layers, and different containers.



 Now, would you like to say anything else incredibly stupid, or would
 you like to apologize for attacking me in your blind ignorance and we
 can just let it go?




 **Format   : MPEG-4
 Format profile   : Base Media / Version 2
 Codec ID : mp42
 File size: 348 MiB
 Duration : 10mn 1s
 Overall bit rate mode: Variable
 Overall bit rate : 4 860 Kbps
 Encoded date : UTC 2013-02-14 04:06:40
 Tagged date  : UTC 2013-02-14 04:06:40
 gsst : 0
 gstd : 601210
 gssd : BADC23F61HH1361841351562120
 gshh : r1---sn-p5qlsn7z.c.youtube.com

 Video
 ID   : 1
 Format   : AVC
 Format/Info  : Advanced Video Codec
 Format profile   : High@L4.0
 Format settings, CABAC   : Yes
 Format settings, ReFrames: 1 frame
 Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=40
 Codec ID : avc1
 Codec ID/Info: Advanced Video Coding
 Duration : 10mn 1s
 Bit rate : 4 714 Kbps
 Maximum bit rate : 9 011 Kbps
 Width: 1 920 pixels
 Height 

Re: [meteorite-list] Doug Schmitt's Talk at TEDxVancouver on 21st October 2012

2013-02-06 Thread Murray Paulson
Hi:

Its too bad that there isn't a slush fund for a civil Libel Lawsuit to
be pressed against the likes of him. Get your facts straight or bear
the wrath of the courts of law. All the talk in the world did nothing
for Mr. Curry, but a court of Law straightend things out fairly
quickly.

Cheers.

Murray

On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com wrote:
 The facts below are very well stated. So, we can either tear apart arguments
 but hold our tongues, or we can put together a news release of our own
 highlighting the incredible (and only most recent) collaboration between
 meteorite hunters, collectors and scientists on Black Beauty and its
 sisters. I would like to call on the IMCA to speak out in defense of the C
 in IMCA to raise awareness of the good work going on. Yes, maybe there are a
 few bad apples in the hunting and collecting community, but the scientific
 community is not perfect either. Again, let's focus on the good.
 I'm not one to allow me or the community at large (which includes
 thoughtful, inclusive and appreciative scientists/meteoriticists) to be
 slandered or be given a black eye without a fight.
 As I have stated multiple times before, I'm happy to help craft a news
 release, but can't do it by myself. So, in the scientific community, anyone
 willing to go on the record and be quoted (does not have to be in relation
 to Black Beauty) in response to this specific issue? Even better, anyone out
 there want to be the goto person, i.e. an advocate, to respond to these
 negative remarks. I am aware of Marc Fries doing a very nice job of this,
 and others, but unfortunately this is a message that must be continuously
 reinforced.
 Thoughts?
 Mendy
 -Original Message-
 From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
 [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of MEM
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 5:56 PM
 To: Adam Hupe; Adam
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Doug Schmitt's Talk at TEDxVancouver on 21st
 October 2012

 Let me get this in perspective.  25,000+ meteorites are locked up in ANSMET
 deep freezers wholly available to researchers only.  Another  31,000+? non
 ANSMET ( ANSMET and METBUL figures) are in the met bulletin.  All meteorites
 passing muster have between 100% and 20% owned by approved/certified
 institutions of curation.

 As Emma Peel the Wendy's Lady might have said...Where's the beef?

 So please someone somewhere give me the name of a credentialed researcher
 anywhere in the world that cannot get hold of specific material to do their
 research? Were it not for the collector community there would not be the
 1000's of newly found meteorites available in the first place.

 How many confirmed but non-NONCOM approved, distinct meteorites are totally
 in private hands without a speck available for research?  Does anyone on the
 list have an unclassified NWA that would not gladly share a portion if a
 scientist came calling?

 The blurb bout selling it illegally on ebay is outright fear mongering. If
 he is a maritime law expert shouldn't he be calling us pirates as well?
 And speaking of slander, why is no one publicly concerned about Jennskins'
 interviews where he talks about Outlaw meteorite huntersand the meteorite
 black market? Give me an answer and I'll hold my tongue and(Chicago
 convention excepted) speak no more of it.  I do not care that he is Mister
 Meteor nor that he may be world renown but he shouldn't be given a pass on
 his uninformed public statements regarding our community.  I really would
 like to see his direct response published, should he ever again be misquoted
 like the black market statements regarding the Gabal Kamal Iron. We would
 have his position on record.  Better yet, if he truly understood from an
 informed position he might never make disparaging comments to reporters.

 Which brings us to the other meteorite law logical fallacy: Cultural
 property and Doug Schmitt's building on the cultural heritage defense to
 outlaw private ownership of meteorites.  Where a meteorite should land is
 random so its ascension to protected native heritage/cultural object is
 unfounded.  I understand Willemitte and Hoba, perhaps Cape York owing to
 separate reasons.  If they were men of integrity they would just pass their
 LOCAL laws regarding meteorite ownership. And let the rest of the world be.
 By using cultural object status they are violating their own obligation to
 preserve in tact and not slice it up for study.

 Elton

 PS:  So according to Schmitt's TED talk only iron meteorites originate in
 the asteroid belt and are the oldest objects in the universe(sic)



 - Original Message -
 From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com
 To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Cc:
 Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 5:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Doug Schmitt's Talk at TEDxVancouver on
 21st October 2012


 In my opinion, NOT a friend of the meteorite hunting community.


 Seems 

Re: [meteorite-list] A 'Find' of Another Kind - the Vote is In!

2013-01-08 Thread Murray Paulson
Great Kevin! Glad someone is thinking outside the box. Now where the
heck did I put my glass.

Hope to find you in Tucson some day, but don't fall out of favor.

Murray

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 11:03 PM, John Lutzon j...@lutzon.com wrote:

 Great read!, Kevin

 Perfect out of the Box composition.

 John Lutzon

 - Original Message -
 From: Kevin Kichinka mars...@gmail.com
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 12:35 AM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] A 'Find' of Another Kind - the Vote is In!


 Team Meteorite:

 The wind is howling to the stars on a chilly (22*C/72F) night here on
 the central plateau of Costa Rica.

 Thanks to the miracle of modern refrigeration, I've just utilized the
 'last breast' from Thanksgiving to make Turkey Chowder for dinner. As
 a single guy living alone, there's probably some symbolism there.

 To work off the enzymes and growth hormones knowingly consumed in that
 last breast, I stepped out on my patio with a glass of Chilean wine I
 poured out of a box. The second I opened the door, the choir of
 crickets cut off their chorus.

 Hey, it's just me. Sing on! I requested in Spanish.
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Re: [meteorite-list] CA Fireball Meteor 17OCT2012

2012-10-19 Thread Murray Paulson
Don't you find Frag na ments near Fraggle rock?

M.

On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Sean T. Murray s...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 He wants to find some Frag-na-ments?  Where the heck do these reporters
 come up with these hunters to interview?

 S.

 -Original Message- From: karmaka
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 1:10 PM
 To: drtanuki ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] CA Fireball Meteor 17OCT2012


 The NASA recording of the meteor:

 http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50133465nutm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+cbsnews%2Ffeed+%28CBSNews.com%29

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3da3jkiHJM

 Martin



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 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Betreff: [meteorite-list] CA Fireball Meteor 17OCT2012
 Datum: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 05:12:18 +0200

 List,

 CA Fireball Meteor 17OCT2012
 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2012/10/breaking-news-ca-fireball-meteor.html

 Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust

2012-10-11 Thread Murray Paulson
HI Chris:

Remember that most meteorites go into dark flight at 30 or so km above
the earth. The atmosphere is very thin up there maybe 10 milibars and
is probably similar to the Martian atmosphere near the surface. Of
course the terminal velocity would be quite high and the meteorite
would hit the ground at quite a high velocity!

Murray

On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Pat Brown
scientificlifest...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hi Chris,

 This is an interesting question. I would imagine for a meteorite to survive a 
 landing on Mars,
 that it would have to slow down to a degree. The only mechanism is friction 
 with the atmosphere.
 The extreme speed should be enough to create a plasma, and so a fusion crust 
 should form. It might
 well be pretty thin, but i believe a crust would form.

 An engineer's view

 Best Regards,
 Pat



 
 From: cspr...@islandnet.com
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:31:32 -0700
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust

 Would a meteorite found Mars show a fusion crust or is the Martian
 atmosphere too thin?

 Chris Spratt
 Victoria, BC
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Re: [meteorite-list] Spitzer Sees Crystal Rain in Infant Star Outer Clouds

2011-06-01 Thread Murray Paulson
This obviously is a new production of a Clockwork Meteorite...


M  : )

On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 10:21 AM, karmaka karm...@email.de wrote:
 I'm singing in the olivine rain
 Just singing in the olivine rain
 What a glorious feelin'
 I'm happy again
 I'm laughing at clouds
 So dark up above
 The sun's in my heart
 And I'm ready for love
 Let the stormy clouds chase
 Everyone from the place
 Come on with the rain
 I've a smile on my face
 I walk down the swirling disk of dust
 With a happy refrain
 Just singin',
 Singin' in the olivine rain

 Let's keep on 'eyeball dancing' in the beautiful  'olivine rain' of your 
 meteorites!

 Martin
 (the other one)


 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Pete Pete rsvp...@hotmail.com
 Gesendet: 01.06.2011 16:38:00
 An: meteoritelist meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Betreff: [meteorite-list] Spitzer Sees Crystal Rain in Infant Star Outer 
 Clouds


The full article is at the link.

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/spitzer/news/spitzer20110526.html
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/spitzer/news/spitzer20110526.html



Spitzer Sees Crystal Rain in Infant Star Outer Clouds 05.26.11


PASADENA, Calif. -- Tiny crystals of a green mineral called olivine are 
falling down like rain on a burgeoning star,
according to observations from NASA's Spitzer Space Telescope.

This is the first time such crystals have been observed in the dusty clouds 
of gas that collapse around forming stars.
Astronomers are still debating how the crystals got there, but the most 
likely culprits are jets of gas blasting away from the embryonic star.

You need temperatures as hot as lava to make these crystals, said Tom 
Megeath of the University of Toledo in Ohio.
He is the principal investigator of the research and the second author of a 
new study appearing in Astrophysical Journal Letters.
We propose that the crystals were cooked up near the surface of the forming 
star, then carried up into the surrounding cloud where
temperatures are much colder, and ultimately fell down again like glitter.


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Re: [meteorite-list] Question: Sun/Moon

2011-04-15 Thread Murray Paulson
Hi:

Yes they can be! I have seen them many times when the angle is more
like .5 degree and less. Yes, a solar eclipse is one occasion when you
cna see both in such proximity. As for the sun below the horizon and
the moon above, new moon, the record les at somwhere between 10 to 12
degrees.

Murray Paulson

On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 7:09 PM, John Lutzon j...@hc.fdn.com wrote:
 Hello All,

 May i ask a silly question? Answer, better than anyone you know.

 Well, will our Sun and Moon ever be 15 degrees apart from each other, as
 observed from Earth?
 Can this occurance be calculated or is it an impossibility?

 John
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Re: [meteorite-list] The Interest In Meteorites

2011-03-26 Thread Murray Paulson
Hi Bob  list:

I will caution you on the possible loss of valuable data on the
resampling the photos to too small a size. We have seen as time goes
by, the available bandwidth and storage capacity increases, and the
300 x 250 images will be vaguely reminicent of the 320 x 240 videos
you skip over on Youtube. We don't need 5 Mb image files, but some
happy medium would be nice. Please don't resize the images to a less
than useful size.

I have looked at 300, 480, 640, 800 and 1024 pixel long dimension
images and 640 to 800 are the minimum I would resample things down to.
I thank the efforts to put up the EOM and it is a great reference.

Murray Paulson


On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 9:13 AM, bcmeteorites bcmeteori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi All,
 I will also add that one of the features we built into the EoM is that when 
 an image is
 submitted that it automatically is resized to not consume a large amount of 
 band width; if
 someone posts an image that has not been resized (many are 5mb and larger) it 
 is reduced to
 around 300 x 250 pixels to help with not only size of data base but also to 
 allow picture to
 load faster when you select to view full size.

 Glad that everyone is enjoying the EoM and it is with all the images it is 
 becoming a solid
 data base for visual reference.
 Thanks to everyone for some of their outstanding images they have shared.

 Best Regards,
 Bob Falls
 IMCA Board of Director #2413
 EoM Administrator

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Re: [meteorite-list] Apollo Moon rock sample on eBay?

2011-02-03 Thread Murray Paulson
Ya, I know, it should have been a meteorologist and he would have
slipped through ...

Murray   ;  )

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:26 PM, tett t...@rogers.com wrote:
 Total B.S.

 As soon as he wrote, I showed it to a geologist.. I knew this was fake.

 Cheers!

 Mike Tettenborn

 On 03/02/2011 7:52 PM, Matson, Robert D. wrote:

 If the sample is real, it is an extraordinarily large one (comparatively
 speaking).
 As such, it's surprising that someone would be dumb enough to try to sell
 it
 on eBay.  --Rob

 -Original Message-
 From: Thunder Stone [mailto:stanleygr...@hotmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 4:42 PM
 To: mike; Matson, Robert D.
 Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Apollo Moon rock sample on eBay?


 All:

 Appears it is illegal to own one - but as to it being real - probable?



 http://blogs.airspacemag.com/moon/2009/07/can-you-legally-own-a-piece-of-the-moon/


 Can You Legally Own a Piece of the Moon?
 A Moon rock on Mt. Everest: Not for keeps Mr. Ian Sheffield of Edinburgh
 Scotland is miffed. He claims to have not one, but two dust samples of the
 Moon-one from the Apollo 11 mission and another from the Apollo 15 mission.
 He explains that he bought these lunar samples from a dealer about 3 years
 ago. The article does not indicate how much he paid for them, but he does
 allow that each is valued at around £2000 (about $3300) each.
 A problem arose when he planned to display his samples to the public. He
 apparently wrote to NASA asking if he could exhibit them. To his
 astonishment, NASA refused to give him permission and demanded the return of
 the samples, claiming that the lunar dust in his possession was property of
 the United States government.
 Mr. Sheffield's story of how the samples came into his possession is
 interesting. He states the dust came off a camera film pack to which a
 technician in the Lunar Receiving Laboratory was accidentally exposed.
 Because no one was sure the lunar samples would not contain some possible
 primitive (and pathogenic) organisms when the Apollo 11 crew first returned
 to Earth, they had to spend three weeks in quarantine. Anybody in the LRL
 exposed to lunar material was compelled to join the astronauts in their
 quarantine. The technician who was exposed went into isolation and (the
 story claims) upon his release, was given the dust as a memento.
 My antennae went up at this point. No lunar samples are given to private
 individuals. Each piece of the Moon returned by the Apollo astronauts is
 carefully accounted for and resides in the Lunar Curatorial Facility in
 Houston, where they are kept in two separate hurricane-proof vaults. Many
 lunar samples are loaned to scientific institutions for study. The only
 lunar samples given away (of which I am aware) were to about a hundred
 national leaders during President Nixon's 1969 world tour. The beautiful
 Space Window in the Washington National Cathedral, honoring man's landing
 on the Moon, holds a 7.18-gram basalt from Mare Tranquillitatis, on loan to
 the Cathedral. Other moon rocks were presented to the Apollo astronauts (and
 Walter Cronkite) in 2004. However, each plaque came with a catch: the lunar
 samples can not be personally held by the recipients, and must be displayed
 at a local school or museum. Recently, Astronaut Scott Parazynski was loaned
 a sample of the Moon's regolith that he carried to the summit of Mount
 Everest.
 Some diplomatic gifts of lunar samples have found their way onto the black
 market. A notorious case is a sample presented to the people of Honduras
 back in 1969. This sample turned up during a NASA Inspector General sting
 which was designed to catch dealers of fake lunar samples. To the agents'
 surprise, they were offered a genuine lunar rock: asking price, $5 million.
 A meeting was arranged and the rock (and presumably, the seller) was seized.
 Another lunar sample was stolen from a museum in Malta between 1990 and
 1994; it was recovered in another sting operation in 1998.
 The federal government forbids private ownership of any Apollo sample.
 Yet, such samples show up every now and then. The most common form they take
 is dust stuck to adhesive tape (an easy way to clean the surface of some
 exposed sample container, tool, or space suit used on the lunar surface).
 Mr. Sheffield's sample is likely to be one of these pieces. Its status, I
 was surprised to find out, is legally uncertain. Although NASA has sued in
 court to recover any such bootleg sample, no prosecution has succeeded,
 except for those caught (literally) in the act of theft. In an embarrassing
 incident for NASA, a summer intern and two companions carried a safe full of
 lunar samples out of a building at Johnson Space Center (as Dave Barry would
 say, I am not making this up). They were apprehended while trying to sell
 them at bargain basement prices and subsequently prosecuted.
 It was rumored for years that several of the Apollo 

Re: [meteorite-list] New Ebay sales technique

2011-01-16 Thread Murray Paulson
Hi Paul:

What's the matter with Zimbabwean dollars? Don't pass these up.  I
have seen some trillion Zim notes...

Murray

On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 4:27 AM,  valpar...@aol.com wrote:
 Here's a excerpt from auction 260721620133

 You may notice one thing odd about my auctions. I dont list any weights. 
 Please dont email - I wont tell you how much a specimen weighs! If you really 
 want to know, bid high on the piece! In my humble opinion meteorites are 
 nature's artwork. I'd like to have people bid based upon the quality of the 
 work and the look of the finished piece. If you want to buy something by 
 weight nip on down to the local Tesco and buy a kg of cheese! ;)

 I emailed the guy anyway and asked about the weight. His response was a 
 restatement of the above.

 I think I'll apply his concept to my bidding - I will only divulge the 
 currency that I pay with after I win the numerical bidding contest. Algerian 
 Dinars is a possibility, but I'm not promising anything because Pakistani 
 rupees also look good.

 Paul Swartz
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[meteorite-list] Whitecourt Video

2010-12-08 Thread Murray Paulson
I am relaying an email for a friend who can't seem to post to the list.  Murray


Dear Listers:

Here is a video I made of Whitecourt this summer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unJ2UEi0vMs

Hope you-all can see it.


-Brian Moore
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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite the floats??

2010-11-30 Thread Murray Paulson
Brian, List:

This is a good idea, but lets simplify it a bit. How about a category,
IMCA approved auctions? You need to be a member to sell under that
category...

Murray

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 7:48 AM, Brian Cox
searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 Just to piggyback on what I mentioned earlier about anyone interested
 enough, who has the time and the energy, (Not me!) to contact ebay about
 setting up categories for meteorites, I did want to mention the old saying:
 Be Careful What You Wish For since it May Open a Can of Worms in the
 sense, that we may be categorized to death on something like that.

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Re: [meteorite-list] sulphurous smell of meteorites (was Temperature of meteorites)

2010-11-24 Thread Murray Paulson
Hi Marco:

The short lived isotopes decayed 4.5 - 4.6 or so billion years ago,
and only warmed the acreeted asteroid at that time. They are but a
distant memory when the meteorite falls here on earth today.

As for hot rocks. I found Buzzard coulee specimens in the spring time
2009. The ones that were exposed to the sun, were nice and warm,
almost hot, when we picked them up. : )

Murray Paulson

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 2:03 AM, Marco Langbroek
marco.langbr...@wanadoo.nl wrote:
 Piper et al.,

...
 The same goes for reports of very hot meteorites.

 In more speculative moments, I have pondered a few times whether the decay
 of very shortlived radioisotopes in meteorites could play a role in reports
 of glowing and hot fresh-fallen meteorites as well. That is pure
 speculation that will probably not hold on closer scrutiny, however.

 - Marco

 -
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 Dutch Meteor Society (DMS)

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Re: [meteorite-list] sulphurous smell of meteorites (wasTemperature of meteorites)

2010-11-24 Thread Murray Paulson
A friend of mine is having problems posting to the list, so I am
trying to do that for him...

M Paulson
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From: Brian Moore
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 3:55 PM
To: 'meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com'
Subject: sulphurous smell of meteorites

Dear List:

When Murray Paulson and I came across the fellow who found the 7 kg
Buzzard Coulee there was a distinct smell, to me at least. There was a
hint of something sulphurous but more kind of a organic swampy smell.
Then for some reason a scent of new-mown hay popped into my mind.

We came about 10 minutes after the meteorite had been pulled out the
shallow hole it had created.
Murray took a picture and I took down the GPS coordinates.

For a great picture of the event see Bruce McCurdy's Buzzard web site:
skyriver.ca/astro/bruce/meteorite.htm

This was 12 days after the meteor fell in frozen winter conditions.


-Brian Moore
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - November 14, 2010

2010-11-13 Thread Murray Paulson
WIld bit of space stuff. Way to go Brian!

Murray

On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Michael Johnson
mich...@rocksfromspace.org wrote:
 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/November_14_2010.html
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Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Advanced Iron Collectors

2010-08-24 Thread Murray Paulson
Martin:

Are you talking about advanced age, or advanced resources? I have
found that I have turned a corner where I collected stoney meteorites,
but now have developed a taste for Irons. Yes, I know it leaves a
funny taste in your mouth, but what the heck. It probably is because I
have found a lot of Whitecourt Irons, and then it becomes personal.

What do you have in mind? Hopefully not a special deal in Africa...

Murray



On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Martin Altmann
altm...@meteorite-martin.de wrote:
 Hello advanced iron meteorite collectors
 -come to me!

 We have to offer something new
 and a really spectacular collection specimen
 at an excellent rate.

 Best!
 Martin

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Re: [meteorite-list] OT - Armchair meteorite hunt - Spot the Meteorite

2010-04-07 Thread Murray Paulson
Hi:

Just makes me want to zap it with my meteorite stick! I miss the days
of Buzzard Coulee!

I see two if the shadow above the gps is the first one.

Cheers

Murray

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 1:04 PM, McCartney Taylor
mccart...@blackbearddata.com wrote:
 How many meteorites do you see?

 http://outofabluesky.com/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=97

 The photo is at full native resolution to give you the best chance to
 spot'em.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees?

2010-03-31 Thread Murray Paulson
Hi:

He probably is legit. So if you don't mind having stones that have no
export permits or properly documented provenance, go for it.

Has anyone asked him about export permits? Or mentioned the potential
$50,000 fine?

Murray

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 6:57 AM, Galactic Stone  Ironworks
meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Melanie and List,

 I don't know who the seller is, but the photos and descriptions leave
 much to be desired.

 If they can't put the time and effort into decent photos and a good
 description, then it makes me wonder about the legal paperwork too.
 LOL

 Best regards,

 MikeG

 On 3/31/10, Melanie Matthews miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca wrote:
 http://shop.ebay.ca/306krista/m.html?_nkw=_armrs=1_from=_ipg=_trksid=p4340

 Worldwide shipping and no mention of an export permit for any of them?
 Anyone here know this person and if he/she is for real?

  ---
 Melanie
 IMCA: 2975
 eBay: metmel2775
 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09

 Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what
 you're gonna get!



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Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees?

2010-03-31 Thread Murray Paulson
Hi Melanie:

No, selling or even lending them for research makes no difference. A
Canadian researcher sent some meteorites to U of Oregon for
classification and got Challenged by Canadian cultural properties for
doing it. No, it doesn't matter why you are exporting them, they can
smack you. Don't get lulled by someone ignorant of the law.

Murray

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Melanie Matthews
miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca wrote:
 Not to give anyone a bad name or scare those who
 are already bidding on some of them, but it seems kinda strange how
 there is no mention of export permits.. I PMed them and according to them
 she's selling them for research and as such they can get away with selling 
 BCs without a permit. It seems they are legit.

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 Melanie
 IMCA: 2975
 eBay: metmel2775
 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09

 Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what 
 you're gonna get!



 - Original Message 
 From: Linton Rohr linton...@earthlink.net
 To: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com
 Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Wed, March 31, 2010 10:57:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees?

 Well Jason, I certainly could be wrong.
 I just hate to see anybody here get burned.
 My eyes can't tell for sure that those are fresh, fusion-crusted stones,
 as opposed to little black earth rocks, due to the photo quality.
 They do look somewhat probable though, I'll admit.
 The larger problem to me, is the export permit.
 Was there any mention of that when you spoke?
 Linton

 - Original Message -
 From: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com
 To: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 11:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees?


 Melanie, Linton,
 The photos depict what are clearly fresh stony meteorites, regardless
 of their quality (viz., the photos').
 This seller is a local and has been selling Buzzard Coulee stones
 since shortly after the fall.
 I've spoken with them on a few occasions, and, while I haven't
 actually purchased any stones, they do seem to be on the level.
 Regards,
 Jason

 On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Linton Rohr linton...@earthlink.net
 wrote:
 Melanie,
 No, I do not know the seller.
 The poor quality photos are just a nuisance.
 The text indicates to me that the seller does not know meteorites.
 Sounds like he took a few notes from someone elses legitimate ad.
 No mention of export permits is a giant red flag, though.
 You could always ask him/her about that. I almost did.
 The price/gram is sure a lot lower though, eh?
 Almost too good to be true, isn't it...
 And you know what they say about that!
 Linton


 - Original Message - From: Melanie Matthews
 miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca
 To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:59 PM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Are these authentic Buzzard Coulees?



 http://shop.ebay.ca/306krista/m.html?_nkw=_armrs=1_from=_ipg=_trksid=p4340

 Worldwide shipping and no mention of an export permit for any of them?
 Anyone here know this person and if he/she is for real?

 ---
 Melanie
 IMCA: 2975
 eBay: metmel2775
 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09

 Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know
 what you're gonna get!



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Re: [meteorite-list] eBay meteorite and crater

2010-03-25 Thread Murray Paulson
Hi:

Did any of you notice that the crater looks kind of fresh, but the
meteorite looks far from fresh, more likely hundreds of years old?
This one smells! P.T. Barnum said something about the likes of the
bidders!

Murray Paulson

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:46 AM, JoshuaTreeMuseum
joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com wrote:
 Possibilities, but probably not.  The crater looks like what's left after a
 tree falls over and is removed.  This find (or not) is courtesy of the
 Meteorite Men.  Whaddya think?:
 http://cgi.ebay.com/Huge-Meteorite-Rare-Find_W0QQitemZ180483766353QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2a05abb851


 What are the chances of finding a rock in Newfoundland that looks just like
 a Newfoundland dog?  I also liked the Vincent rock:
 http://cgi.ebay.com/2-UNIQUE-ROCK-FORMATIONS-NFLD-DOG-SKULL-METEORITE_W0QQitemZ270551650886QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_2?hash=item3efe229246




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Re: [meteorite-list] Keeping a meteorite database

2010-03-20 Thread Murray Paulson
Hi:

What is the cost of this software after the evaluation period. I hate
to load stuff up on my computer just to have to un-install it in a
month or two's time because it quits working and I balk at the cost to
continue using it.

I presently use Excel

Cheers

Murray

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 7:53 PM, John.L.Cabassi j...@cabassi.net wrote:
 G'Day Elizabeth and Steve
 I forgot to add that this program can be modified to just deal with
 meteorites. And on top of that, it's constantly being upgraded on a
 regular basis. Some of the fields include

 - Acquired
 - Main Species
 - Description
 - Locality
 - Country
 - Source
 - Original Cost
 - Current Cost
 - List Price
 - Purchase Price
 - Size
 - Weight
 - Location
 - Free Field 1
 - Free Field 2
 - Image 1
 - Image 2
 - Image 3
 - Image 4
 - Notes
 - Reference Number

 Cheers
 John
 IMCA # 2125

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 [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of
 Elizabeth Warner
 Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 11:05 AM
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Keeping a meteorite database


 Hi Steve  List,

 I would also be interested if something already exists...

 But making a database (using just Excel or other similar spreadsheet
 program, I'm also okay using MS Access) wouldn't be hard, but what
 fields should be included?

 Since I'm also new to collecting, I wouldn't know off the top of my head

 what notes to make sure I record with my acquisitions...

 I've noticed that generic info about a meteorite is usually included in
 the eBay descriptions and that's easy enough to copy, but what things
 about my specific specimen should I take note of??

 Also, any advice on how best to display them? (one came with an acrylic
 easel...)

 (11 meteorites with 2 on the way)

 Clear Skies!
 Elizabeth





 Steve Witt wrote:
 Greetings list,

 I remember several years ago that one of the list members (I think)
 had a meteorite database available on CD. It was simply a matter of
 downloading to your computer and it formed the framework for keeping
 all pertinent info on your collection, including a place for photos.

 Is there something like this still available? If not I would like to
 ask that those that do catalogue their collections please give me some

 ideas on what programs you are using. I really have no idea of where
 to start. Any and all feedback would be greatly appreciated. And if
 there are any computer geeks on the list, a CD like the one I
 mentioned would probably sell quite well here on the list.

 thanx,
 Steve


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