[meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite
Hello John K., Thank you very much for the quick thin section pictures of Adam's ACAP and whichever other acapulcoites are more or less probably paired with. These pics are much more interesting and even more beautiful than all the talk about assumed or real pairings and TKW's of these acapulcoites! The low-magnification overview picture is of particular interest because of the coarser crystals nestled snugly into the smaller crystals that surround them. Beautiful, equigranular olivine and pyroxene crystals. Thanks for sharing them! Hello Mark B., Mark wrote that he was surprised at how small the mineral crystals were in acapulcoites when he got it under his scope at home. But this is not so very surprising after all. A very simplified answer may be that crystals in acapulcoites experienced less heat when they recrystallized (at shallower depths?) whereas lodranites may have undergone higher temperatures (at greater depths? - where their crystals also had more time to grow). References: McSWEEN H.Y. (1999) Meteorites and Their Parent Planets (Cambridge University Press, p. 144). HUTCHISON R. (2004) Meteorites: A Petrologic, Chemical, and Isotopic Synthesis (Cambridge Planetary Science Series, pp. 250). FLOSS C. (2000) Complexities on the acapulcoite-lodranite parent body: Evidence from trace element distributions in silicate minerals (MAPS 35-5, 2000, pp. 1073-1085). __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite
Hello All ! I've just purchased my 3.7-gram, extremely metal- and troilite-rich slice of NWA 2989 (Item #6605571076 - just in case you care to take a look ;-) that Adam is offering on EBay. Look at it and you'll know what I mean! Adam writes: ...TKW of 77 grams is recorded for NWA 2989. This weight does not reflect any pairings since I do not have accurate figures. It is probably paired with NWA 2656, of which I own a beautiful slice weighing 0.29 grams. Adam also writes: ... the lowest price you will find on EBay. And right he is! I paid $290 for my little, beautiful NWA 2656 (which I do not regret!). Go figure and do the maths what I would have had to pay for more than 10 times the weight (3.7 grams) of my 0.29-gram ACAP. The specimen that comes closest to the one I purchased seems to be the 2.55-gram part slice - also very metal-rich and almost like my little NWA 2656 with all its delicate veins and veinlets. It doesn't show those slender troilite inclusions but this part slice would be my choice no. 2. I'd buy both of them if I could afford it! What makes acapulcoites, and especially this one, so interesting is their achondritic, granular texture and, at the same time, they have an ordinary chondrite mineralogy. That's why you find both abundant metal (similar to H chondrites!) and sulfide in them. Another interesting feature is the rare occurrence of relict chondrules, and, as they do not plot too far away from both angrites, brachinites on the one hand, and from ureilites on the other, you will also find grain boundaries meeting in triple junctions (120°). Best Acapucoitic wishes, and Good Night, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite
I inform all I have the last 2 little slices of NWA 1054 acapulcoite with new iron-nichel posphide found...one its go sold todayended this 2 pieces no others its available. Matteo --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Hello All ! I've just purchased my 3.7-gram, extremely metal- and troilite-rich slice of NWA 2989 (Item #6605571076 - just in case you care to take a look ;-) that Adam is offering on EBay. Look at it and you'll know what I mean! Adam writes: ...TKW of 77 grams is recorded for NWA 2989. This weight does not reflect any pairings since I do not have accurate figures. It is probably paired with NWA 2656, of which I own a beautiful slice weighing 0.29 grams. Adam also writes: ... the lowest price you will find on EBay. And right he is! I paid $290 for my little, beautiful NWA 2656 (which I do not regret!). Go figure and do the maths what I would have had to pay for more than 10 times the weight (3.7 grams) of my 0.29-gram ACAP. The specimen that comes closest to the one I purchased seems to be the 2.55-gram part slice - also very metal-rich and almost like my little NWA 2656 with all its delicate veins and veinlets. It doesn't show those slender troilite inclusions but this part slice would be my choice no. 2. I'd buy both of them if I could afford it! What makes acapulcoites, and especially this one, so interesting is their achondritic, granular texture and, at the same time, they have an ordinary chondrite mineralogy. That's why you find both abundant metal (similar to H chondrites!) and sulfide in them. Another interesting feature is the rare occurrence of relict chondrules, and, as they do not plot too far away from both angrites, brachinites on the one hand, and from ureilites on the other, you will also find grain boundaries meeting in triple junctions (120°). Best Acapucoitic wishes, and Good Night, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite
Hi Bernd and all, Thank you for the kind words on NWA 2989. This is one very hard meteorite to image properly. Images of the two pieces that were pointed out were taken at a slightly different angle than the rest. All were polished to 3,000 grit so they reflect like a mirror into my camera making it difficult to get consistent images. Not to advertise any more but this Acapulcoite looks awesome at 30X. Anybody who already has any of this under a pairing should look at their specimens under magnification, a true beauty! Kind Regards, Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection Team LunarRock IMCA 2185 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite
Hi Bernd...Yes, if it is paired to our new Acapulcoite NWA 2714 and NWA 2656, then the provisional write-up in MB90 states that the TKW is accounted for by a single ~ 7.5 kilogram stone which was apparently broken into pieces and sold. Cheers -John --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All ! I've just purchased my 3.7-gram, extremely metal- and troilite-rich slice of NWA 2989 (Item #6605571076 - just in case you care to take a look ;-) that Adam is offering on EBay. Look at it and you'll know what I mean! Adam writes: ...TKW of 77 grams is recorded for NWA 2989. This weight does not reflect any pairings since I do not have accurate figures. It is probably paired with NWA 2656, of which I own a beautiful slice weighing 0.29 grams. Adam also writes: ... the lowest price you will find on EBay. And right he is! I paid $290 for my little, beautiful NWA 2656 (which I do not regret!). Go figure and do the maths what I would have had to pay for more than 10 times the weight (3.7 grams) of my 0.29-gram ACAP. The specimen that comes closest to the one I purchased seems to be the 2.55-gram part slice - also very metal-rich and almost like my little NWA 2656 with all its delicate veins and veinlets. It doesn't show those slender troilite inclusions but this part slice would be my choice no. 2. I'd buy both of them if I could afford it! What makes acapulcoites, and especially this one, so interesting is their achondritic, granular texture and, at the same time, they have an ordinary chondrite mineralogy. That's why you find both abundant metal (similar to H chondrites!) and sulfide in them. Another interesting feature is the rare occurrence of relict chondrules, and, as they do not plot too far away from both angrites, brachinites on the one hand, and from ureilites on the other, you will also find grain boundaries meeting in triple junctions (120°). Best Acapucoitic wishes, and Good Night, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite
Hi List, I believe it is paired to others but mine came as an individual not broken from another piece as far as I can tell. Anyway you look at, this new Acapulcoite is one great looking meteorite, especially when polished to a mirror finish. Take Care, Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection Team LunarRock IMCA 2185 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite
Hi Adam...the classification write-up usually states whether it is likely paired to other meteorites. What did your write up state? If it is a complete individual, and it is paired to NWA 2656 and NWA 2714 and others, then I would think the TKW for this grouping must be over 7.5 kilos. Did the write up describe it as a whole stone? Is it surrounded by fusion crust like a whole stone? If so, could you maybe post some pics for the list? Thanks! -John --- Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi List, I believe it is paired to others but mine came as an individual not broken from another piece as far as I can tell. Anyway you look at, this new Acapulcoite is one great looking meteorite, especially when polished to a mirror finish. Take Care, Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection Team LunarRock IMCA 2185 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite
Hi John and List, As I stated in my auction, the nomenclature is provisional. I do not have an image of the whole stone but I do have a receipt stating the weight of 77 grams. As I mentioned in my auction, this weight was attributed to NWA 2989 only and not any other pairings. It was also mentioned to the List that I believed it to be paired to NWA 2656 which has an official weight of 386 grams. If somebody claimed a false weight on NWA 2656 that is not my problem. I got a good deal on the complete stone so I released my material at a reasonable price. If somebody is complaining about paying $40.00/50.00 a gram for this beauty when others are selling it at 10 times this amount then there truly is a problem regardless of how much weight is out there. I reported what I had correctly. I cannot keep track of other pairings and nobody else can either. You made this argument when we were talking about what constitutes a main mass. If others knew there was more weight and the other pieces came from a single large stone then they should have reported it. Kind Regards, Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection Team LunarRock IMCA 2185 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: John Birdsell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite Hi Adam...the classification write-up usually states whether it is likely paired to other meteorites. What did your write up state? If it is a complete individual, and it is paired to NWA 2656 and NWA 2714 and others, then I would think the TKW for this grouping must be over 7.5 kilos. Did the write up describe it as a whole stone? Is it surrounded by fusion crust like a whole stone? If so, could you maybe post some pics for the list? Thanks! -John --- Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi List, I believe it is paired to others but mine came as an individual not broken from another piece as far as I can tell. Anyway you look at, this new Acapulcoite is one great looking meteorite, especially when polished to a mirror finish. Take Care, Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection Team LunarRock IMCA 2185 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite
Hi Adam...We were just curious, because in your ebay ad you stated that you didn't have any accurate figures on the TKW of pairings, and yet, the TKW of ~7.5kg has been publicly available on the internet for months now, and in the Meteorite Bulletin data base it states the following: [Provisional text] Northwest Africa 2656 Morocco or Algeria Find: Purchased 2003 Achondrite (acapulcoite) History: A 386 g broken stone with weathered fusion crust (part of a larger ~7.5 kg mass found in 2003) was purchased in Erfoud, Morocco in 2004 for N. Oakes. Petrography (T. Bunch and J. Wittke, NAU; A. Irving, UWS): The specimen is recrystallized into homogeneous polygonal and subhedral grains with a grain size of 1 mm and a somewhat equal distribution of phases. Composition: Olivine Fa8.0 FeO/MnO = 16-19 (N = 25); Orthopyroxene Fs8.4Wo2.4, N = 17; Plagioclase An18.3Ð21.0Or2.8Ð3.4; Chromite, (Cr/Cr+Al) = 0.85, Mg/(Mg+Fe) = 0.41. Troilite, schreibersite and kamacite are also present. Oxygen Isotopes (D. Rumble, CIW): Replicate analyses by laser fluorination gave d17O = 1.71, 1.69ä, d18O = 5.05, 5.04ä, D17O = -0.953, -0.973ä, respectively. Classification: Achondrite (acapulcoite) with minor shock and moderate weathering. Specimens: A 21 g specimen and one polished thin section are on deposit at NAU. Oakes holds the main mass. --- Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi John and List, As I stated in my auction, the nomenclature is provisional. I do not have an image of the whole stone but I do have a receipt stating the weight of 77 grams. As I mentioned in my auction, this weight was attributed to NWA 2989 only and not any other pairings. It was also mentioned to the List that I believed it to be paired to NWA 2656 which has an official weight of 386 grams. If somebody claimed a false weight on NWA 2656 that is not my problem. I got a good deal on the complete stone so I released my material at a reasonable price. If somebody is complaining about paying $40.00/50.00 a gram for this beauty when others are selling it at 10 times this amount then there truly is a problem regardless of how much weight is out there. I reported what I had correctly. I cannot keep track of other pairings and nobody else can either. You made this argument when we were talking about what constitutes a main mass. If others knew there was more weight and the other pieces came from a single large stone then they should have reported it. Kind Regards, Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection Team LunarRock IMCA 2185 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: John Birdsell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite Hi Adam...the classification write-up usually states whether it is likely paired to other meteorites. What did your write up state? If it is a complete individual, and it is paired to NWA 2656 and NWA 2714 and others, then I would think the TKW for this grouping must be over 7.5 kilos. Did the write up describe it as a whole stone? Is it surrounded by fusion crust like a whole stone? If so, could you maybe post some pics for the list? Thanks! -John --- Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi List, I believe it is paired to others but mine came as an individual not broken from another piece as far as I can tell. Anyway you look at, this new Acapulcoite is one great looking meteorite, especially when polished to a mirror finish. Take Care, Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection Team LunarRock IMCA 2185 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite
John and List, I do not see why you are making such an example out of this because it happens all of the time but if any of you felt you were somehow mislead than I would be happy to give you a full refund. You only have to look at any dealers' websites to see the same problem with pairings. Nobody can rightly state proper weights when pairings are involved. It all depends on the honesty of the persons reporting the weight. I described 22 fossils and 18 meteorites in the last seven days and went on notes provided to me by NAU on this one. I did not have the time to go digging through pairing status' on provisional meteorites even though this information was partially publicly available and posts had been made to the List previously to this. I do not think a dealer out there knows how much of any given meteorite is available from NWA when pairings are involved. I cannot understand why somebody would only claim part of a stone when getting it classified. No matter, I will look into this when I find more time. No scientists have determined a pairing status on NWA 2989 so as I stated I do not know what else is out there. I was not trying to mislead anybody, that is not how I operate. In any case, NWA 2989 is a gorgeous new Acapulcoite and I am sure it will be enjoyed by all of those who purchased any. Kind Regards, Adam __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite
for those that might be curious the mass of 2656 was broken into 'pieces' - as in 2 pieces. Nelson Oaks has one and I have the other, with a few slices being sold off here and there. If Adam's piece is paired then the bueaty of this stuff really cant be understated - it's gorgeous material. IF anyone wants a piece and 4 or 5 grams isnt enough then wirte Nelson, I belive his piece is up for grabs - or at least it was listed in Lang's auction at tucson... From: John Birdsell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:21:11 -0800 (PST) Hi Bernd...Yes, if it is paired to our new Acapulcoite NWA 2714 and NWA 2656, then the provisional write-up in MB90 states that the TKW is accounted for by a single ~ 7.5 kilogram stone which was apparently broken into pieces and sold. Cheers -John --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All ! I've just purchased my 3.7-gram, extremely metal- and troilite-rich slice of NWA 2989 (Item #6605571076 - just in case you care to take a look ;-) that Adam is offering on EBay. Look at it and you'll know what I mean! Adam writes: ...TKW of 77 grams is recorded for NWA 2989. This weight does not reflect any pairings since I do not have accurate figures. It is probably paired with NWA 2656, of which I own a beautiful slice weighing 0.29 grams. Adam also writes: ... the lowest price you will find on EBay. And right he is! I paid $290 for my little, beautiful NWA 2656 (which I do not regret!). Go figure and do the maths what I would have had to pay for more than 10 times the weight (3.7 grams) of my 0.29-gram ACAP. The specimen that comes closest to the one I purchased seems to be the 2.55-gram part slice - also very metal-rich and almost like my little NWA 2656 with all its delicate veins and veinlets. It doesn't show those slender troilite inclusions but this part slice would be my choice no. 2. I'd buy both of them if I could afford it! What makes acapulcoites, and especially this one, so interesting is their achondritic, granular texture and, at the same time, they have an ordinary chondrite mineralogy. That's why you find both abundant metal (similar to H chondrites!) and sulfide in them. Another interesting feature is the rare occurrence of relict chondrules, and, as they do not plot too far away from both angrites, brachinites on the one hand, and from ureilites on the other, you will also find grain boundaries meeting in triple junctions (120°). Best Acapucoitic wishes, and Good Night, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite
See John, The world works like this. Meteorite Rule #1 - The Hupes make the rules Meteorite Rule #2 - Rules can chage to suit the Hupes (But nobody elses) needs as the situation arises. In this case it is in Adam's interest to say the TKW is only 77 grams. And if somebody complains about using his NWA number for other items he can quote gospel, some scientist, improper behavior, the back of a budwiser label, or whatever else is necessary to make you stop trying to say that the items is paired. This works wither he is selling something rare or an obvious NWA869 pairing like NWA904. However (See rule #2) if Adam wants to interfere with somebody elses sale (Like two weeks ago just before Tucson) then all of a sudden everything gets paired. Then comes rule #3. When Adam can no longer support his ideas that get attacked using logic and common sense he can cry and go home and say that He wont post anymore and start attacking the other persons character. Like in his past threads that he has - remember how two weeks ago he quoted Ted Bunch as supporting him and then after I told him to clarify Ted Bunches concerns Adam says that I am not making sense and he has no idea what I am talking about? And we never did get Ted Bunches concerns like Adam indicated because before he told us what he was talking about he started to cry and went home - Just after he made derogatory references to me that had nothing to do with the topic at hand. MORAL OF THE STORY This whole thing about pairings and the scientific rules is nothing more than a sad case of My meteorites are better than your meteorites marketing using the Holier than thau excuse (See Rule #1)). I realize John started this particular thread but it was only because Adam likes interfering with everybody elses sales and its simply payback time. All John is doing in informing everybody that Adam's meteorite has a TKW of 7.5 kilos and not 77 grams. For somebody always preeching that he is Holier than thau all the time it is simply another example of adam playing the side of the fence that happens to suit him on any particular day. Sincerely DEAN __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite
Dean, If you have some personal beef with me take it off of the List. You are always jumping in with your idiotic comments which contribute absolutely nothing and make no sense to me. Why you would want to start a public fight is beyond me. Don't you have something more constructive to do? You were thrown off of the List for this behavior before. Take Care, Adam __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite
Hey Dean, When you quote Hupe's you are attacking two people at once. Be more specific with your public posting or better yet, just keep it off list! You obviously have jumped into something just to jump in and mouth off. As the saying goes from the Great White North, Take off, eh! Best regards, Greg Hupe - Original Message - From: dean bessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite See John, The world works like this. Meteorite Rule #1 - The Hupes make the rules Meteorite Rule #2 - Rules can chage to suit the Hupes (But nobody elses) needs as the situation arises. In this case it is in Adam's interest to say the TKW is only 77 grams. And if somebody complains about using his NWA number for other items he can quote gospel, some scientist, improper behavior, the back of a budwiser label, or whatever else is necessary to make you stop trying to say that the items is paired. This works wither he is selling something rare or an obvious NWA869 pairing like NWA904. However (See rule #2) if Adam wants to interfere with somebody elses sale (Like two weeks ago just before Tucson) then all of a sudden everything gets paired. Then comes rule #3. When Adam can no longer support his ideas that get attacked using logic and common sense he can cry and go home and say that He wont post anymore and start attacking the other persons character. Like in his past threads that he has - remember how two weeks ago he quoted Ted Bunch as supporting him and then after I told him to clarify Ted Bunches concerns Adam says that I am not making sense and he has no idea what I am talking about? And we never did get Ted Bunches concerns like Adam indicated because before he told us what he was talking about he started to cry and went home - Just after he made derogatory references to me that had nothing to do with the topic at hand. MORAL OF THE STORY This whole thing about pairings and the scientific rules is nothing more than a sad case of My meteorites are better than your meteorites marketing using the Holier than thau excuse (See Rule #1)). I realize John started this particular thread but it was only because Adam likes interfering with everybody elses sales and its simply payback time. All John is doing in informing everybody that Adam's meteorite has a TKW of 7.5 kilos and not 77 grams. For somebody always preeching that he is Holier than thau all the time it is simply another example of adam playing the side of the fence that happens to suit him on any particular day. Sincerely DEAN __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite
Hello list, To get back to the spirit of Bernd's e-mail. This NWA acapulcoite, a.k.a., NWA 2656, NWA 2714 and NWA 2989 (others?) is one of the better deals on the market right now. (And Blaine Reed I think has the best price). The meteorite is somewhat weathered and slices very in weathering, the darkerdue to the high amount of metal, the more weathered portions. My slice, sold to me as NWA 2656, looks like Adam's NWA 2656...which is on the lower end of this meteorite's weathering...from the slices I have seen at least. In case you thinking, I know acapucolites are achondritesbut just what are these tourist city sounding meteorites really? Acapucolites are igneous rocks composed primarily of olivine, bronzite, and plagioclase and with nickel-iron as principal minerals. They also have accessory minerals of clinopyroxene, troilite, and schreibersite (among others). I bought a thin section of the acapulcoite NWA 1054 (paired?) in Tucson and was surprized at how small the mineral crystals are in acapulcoites when I got it under the scope at home. The matrix appears much finer then other achondrite's in my collection and predictably, the olivine and plagioclase light up nicely in crossed polars. I haven't figured out how to take thin section photos with my new camera but I will work on it and share some with the list if interested. Anyway, this meteorite classification type has been selling in the $200-$300 range until recently. If you don't have a piecekeep your eye open. Or give Adam or John and e-mail...or possibly Blaine a call. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite
Hi Mark, Thank you for the informative, well rounded and friendly email. Too bad some of the others could not behave in such a positive manner regarding this thread. Best regards, Greg - Original Message - From: MARK BOSTICK [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 9:48 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite Hello list, To get back to the spirit of Bernd's e-mail. This NWA acapulcoite, a.k.a., NWA 2656, NWA 2714 and NWA 2989 (others?) is one of the better deals on the market right now. (And Blaine Reed I think has the best price). The meteorite is somewhat weathered and slices very in weathering, the darkerdue to the high amount of metal, the more weathered portions. My slice, sold to me as NWA 2656, looks like Adam's NWA 2656...which is on the lower end of this meteorite's weathering...from the slices I have seen at least. In case you thinking, I know acapucolites are achondritesbut just what are these tourist city sounding meteorites really? Acapucolites are igneous rocks composed primarily of olivine, bronzite, and plagioclase and with nickel-iron as principal minerals. They also have accessory minerals of clinopyroxene, troilite, and schreibersite (among others). I bought a thin section of the acapulcoite NWA 1054 (paired?) in Tucson and was surprized at how small the mineral crystals are in acapulcoites when I got it under the scope at home. The matrix appears much finer then other achondrite's in my collection and predictably, the olivine and plagioclase light up nicely in crossed polars. I haven't figured out how to take thin section photos with my new camera but I will work on it and share some with the list if interested. Anyway, this meteorite classification type has been selling in the $200-$300 range until recently. If you don't have a piecekeep your eye open. Or give Adam or John and e-mail...or possibly Blaine a call. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite
I got this slice in a trade from Blaine Reed under the NWA 2871 number which had a tkw of 3467grams. Blaine is not a list member. Sorry about the bad photos: http://www.catchafallingstar.com/nwa2871.htm Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 http://www.catchafallingstar.com - Original Message - From: MARK BOSTICK [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 9:48 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite Hello list, To get back to the spirit of Bernd's e-mail. This NWA acapulcoite, a.k.a., NWA 2656, NWA 2714 and NWA 2989 (others?) is one of the better deals on the market right now. (And Blaine Reed I think has the best price). The meteorite is somewhat weathered and slices very in weathering, the darkerdue to the high amount of metal, the more weathered portions. My slice, sold to me as NWA 2656, looks like Adam's NWA 2656...which is on the lower end of this meteorite's weathering...from the slices I have seen at least. In case you thinking, I know acapucolites are achondritesbut just what are these tourist city sounding meteorites really? Acapucolites are igneous rocks composed primarily of olivine, bronzite, and plagioclase and with nickel-iron as principal minerals. They also have accessory minerals of clinopyroxene, troilite, and schreibersite (among others). I bought a thin section of the acapulcoite NWA 1054 (paired?) in Tucson and was surprized at how small the mineral crystals are in acapulcoites when I got it under the scope at home. The matrix appears much finer then other achondrite's in my collection and predictably, the olivine and plagioclase light up nicely in crossed polars. I haven't figured out how to take thin section photos with my new camera but I will work on it and share some with the list if interested. Anyway, this meteorite classification type has been selling in the $200-$300 range until recently. If you don't have a piecekeep your eye open. Or give Adam or John and e-mail...or possibly Blaine a call. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite
Thanks for posting Jim. This is sweet material folks and is probably the best aca to come out of NWA, that I have seen. To plug 2871, I have a few small pieces left under 10g for ~40/g. Thinly sliced and clearly show the olivine and plagioclase crystals. Matt Morgan Jim Strope wrote: I got this slice in a trade from Blaine Reed under the NWA 2871 number which had a tkw of 3467grams. Blaine is not a list member. Sorry about the bad photos: http://www.catchafallingstar.com/nwa2871.htm Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 http://www.catchafallingstar.com - Original Message - From: MARK BOSTICK [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 9:48 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite Hello list, To get back to the spirit of Bernd's e-mail. This NWA acapulcoite, a.k.a., NWA 2656, NWA 2714 and NWA 2989 (others?) is one of the better deals on the market right now. (And Blaine Reed I think has the best price). The meteorite is somewhat weathered and slices very in weathering, the darkerdue to the high amount of metal, the more weathered portions. My slice, sold to me as NWA 2656, looks like Adam's NWA 2656...which is on the lower end of this meteorite's weathering...from the slices I have seen at least. In case you thinking, I know acapucolites are achondritesbut just what are these tourist city sounding meteorites really? Acapucolites are igneous rocks composed primarily of olivine, bronzite, and plagioclase and with nickel-iron as principal minerals. They also have accessory minerals of clinopyroxene, troilite, and schreibersite (among others). I bought a thin section of the acapulcoite NWA 1054 (paired?) in Tucson and was surprized at how small the mineral crystals are in acapulcoites when I got it under the scope at home. The matrix appears much finer then other achondrite's in my collection and predictably, the olivine and plagioclase light up nicely in crossed polars. I haven't figured out how to take thin section photos with my new camera but I will work on it and share some with the list if interested. Anyway, this meteorite classification type has been selling in the $200-$300 range until recently. If you don't have a piecekeep your eye open. Or give Adam or John and e-mail...or possibly Blaine a call. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com http://www.mrmeteorite.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA eBay user id: mhmeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/9050/nwa265623gw.jpg lol the tkw game gets even more confusing. Jim's slice came off oy *MY* piece and my piece was the smaller of two pieces that made up the 7.5kg stone mentioned in 2656. so if the TKW for 2656 is considered to be the 300 or so gram orignal stone then everything is jake - if it's not then my piece - ie 2871 was actually counted twice under two seperate nwa numbers... *confussed* From: Jim Strope [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 22:14:24 -0500 I got this slice in a trade from Blaine Reed under the NWA 2871 number which had a tkw of 3467grams. Blaine is not a list member. Sorry about the bad photos: http://www.catchafallingstar.com/nwa2871.htm Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 http://www.catchafallingstar.com - Original Message - From: MARK BOSTICK [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 9:48 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite Hello list, To get back to the spirit of Bernd's e-mail. This NWA acapulcoite, a.k.a., NWA 2656, NWA 2714 and NWA 2989 (others?) is one of the better deals on the market right now. (And Blaine Reed I think has the best price). The meteorite is somewhat weathered and slices very in weathering, the darkerdue to the high amount of metal, the more weathered portions. My slice, sold to me as NWA 2656, looks like Adam's NWA 2656...which is on the lower end of this meteorite's weathering...from the slices I have seen at least. In case you thinking, I know acapucolites are achondritesbut just what are these tourist city sounding meteorites really? Acapucolites are igneous rocks composed primarily of olivine, bronzite, and plagioclase and with nickel-iron as principal minerals. They also have accessory minerals of clinopyroxene, troilite, and schreibersite (among others). I bought a thin section of the acapulcoite NWA 1054 (paired?) in Tucson and was surprized at how small the mineral crystals are in acapulcoites when I got it under the scope at home. The matrix appears much finer then other achondrite's in my collection and predictably, the olivine and plagioclase light up nicely in crossed polars. I haven't figured out how to take thin section photos with my new camera but I will work on it and share some with the list if interested. Anyway, this meteorite classification type has been selling in the $200-$300 range until recently. If you don't have a piecekeep your eye open. Or give Adam or John and e-mail...or possibly Blaine a call. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite
Re: Jim noted, I got this slice in a trade from Blaine Reed under the NWA 2871 number which had a tkw of 3467 grams. http://www.catchafallingstar.com/nwa2871.htm As par for you Jim, very awesome slice. I mistyped my last e-mail, my slice is NWA 2871. At 2.2 grams it is much smaller then Jim's 178...but it would be just as impressive if this was a two-dimensional world. I'll let you think on that for a second. (pause.) Blaine is not a list member. No, he sees the list as a bad thing. As we do tend to kick up dust every so often...and turn people off of meteorites. Sorry about the bad photos As you noted, it is a very hard meteorite to photograph well. Mine is even a little harder to photographas I can't seem to find it off hand to share it. Did I ever tell you about the lunar meteorite I found? That NWA 482 slice was lost for almost a year. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick Wichita, Kansas...yes Kansas...where meteorites are about 2500 years old! www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite
It is amazing to see professional dealers lowering there prices on this Acapulcoite in response to this string. A hint, if you are going to piggyback somebody else's sales, use the word Ad or Sale in the header instead of sneaking in a sales pitch which I find distasteful. Al the best, Adam __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite
Here are some quick thin section pictures of NWA 2871 Acapulcoite (NWA 2989, 2656, 2714, 2866, 2699). http://www.johnkashuba.com/Ach_NWA_2871_Acapulcoite.html John Kashuba Ontario, California __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite
--- MARK BOSTICK [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: I bought a thin section of the acapulcoite NWA 1054 (paired?) in Tucson and was surprized at how small the mineral crystals are in acapulcoites when I got it under the scope at home. The matrix appears much finer then other achondrite's in my collection and predictably, the olivine and plagioclase light up nicely in crossed polars. I haven't figured out how to take thin section photos with my new camera but I will work on it and share some with the list if interested. NWA 1054 its paired to NWA 1052 http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2005/pdf/1808.pdf but the strange is in the NWA 1052 we not have found Melliniite, in the NWA 1054 yes http://www.mindat.org/locentry-358432.html here a photo of a NWA 1054 thin section http://www.meteorite-lab.com/thinsection/NWA1054_cp_acap3.jpg Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
