Re: [meteorite-list] Australian Monash University Meteorite Recovery Program is under threat
Hi Ian, Well said. I agree that Australia should protect it's borders to prevent massive outflow of meteorites to foreign destinations - one could argue the dynamic of it, but in the end, the meteorites end up leaving and most don't come back. But, the government should not deter it's own citizens from finding them. By allowing private hunters (Australian hunters) to keep their finds, or at least get fair value for them, then everybody comes out a winner. Canada keeps a tight lid on things, but they also compensate private hunters in a way that is mostly considered fair. Their method appears to be working. Best regards, MikeG On 2/3/15, ian macleod via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hi all. In response to MikeG But, one has to wonder - if Australia's laws were not so restrictive, private hunters would be recovering and classifying more Australian meteorites than the scientists would have time to examine. I could not agree more in regards to state laws and regulations. National Heritage laws in regards to meteorite exportthat's a different matter. I think that a country should be able to protect meteorites found on its soil. Imagine someone jumping your fence and stealing a meteorite off of your lawn? Well Australia is a complicated land lacking in resources sometimes to classify meteorites. In the long history of things you will find that our laws in part stemmed from the poor actions of certain Americans that chose not to respect a particular state Museum. So the actions of a few have effected all. I have it on good authority from more than one source that meteorites are being stolen out of Australia and then being miss classified with incorrect locations and names. We need as a international community re-earn the trust of the officials here if we are as a community to slow the trend of state monopoly ownership of meteorites We need to be less worried about the bottom line and more about science Kind Regards Ian 8013 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Australian Monash University Meteorite Recovery Program is under threat
Hi all. In response to MikeG But, one has to wonder - if Australia's laws were not so restrictive, private hunters would be recovering and classifying more Australian meteorites than the scientists would have time to examine. I could not agree more in regards to state laws and regulations. National Heritage laws in regards to meteorite exportthat's a different matter. I think that a country should be able to protect meteorites found on its soil. Imagine someone jumping your fence and stealing a meteorite off of your lawn? Well Australia is a complicated land lacking in resources sometimes to classify meteorites. In the long history of things you will find that our laws in part stemmed from the poor actions of certain Americans that chose not to respect a particular state Museum. So the actions of a few have effected all. I have it on good authority from more than one source that meteorites are being stolen out of Australia and then being miss classified with incorrect locations and names. We need as a international community re-earn the trust of the officials here if we are as a community to slow the trend of state monopoly ownership of meteorites We need to be less worried about the bottom line and more about science Kind Regards Ian 8013 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Australian Monash University Meteorite Recovery Program is under threat
Hi all, Some of you may have seen me post this on Facebook already but for those of you who haven't, unfortunately the Australian Monash University Meteorite Recovery program is under threat of being cancelled this year due to lack of funding. This is the same one that I assisted with in 2012 2013 so I have seen firsthand the contributions this team makes and what they are doing to further Australian meteoritical science. In fact, over the past several years, this program has been responsible for discovering around 20% of all of Australia's meteorite finds. So this year, with funding having run out, the team is turning to the public and meteorite community for help. For those of you who would like to consider helping or would even just like to learn a bit more about the program, please see the link below. There is plenty of information there about the program and also how this crowd funding would contribute to another successful year. http://www.pozible.com/project/189365 Thanks, Jeff Kuyken Meteorites Australia www.meteorites.com.au __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Australian Monash University Meteorite Recovery Program is under threat
Hi Jeff, A worthy program for sure. But, one has to wonder - if Australia's laws were not so restrictive, private hunters would be recovering and classifying more Australian meteorites than the scientists would have time to examine. Take the private hunters out of the equation, and all that's left are scarcely-funded and undermanned official programs. Science suffers. Best regards and Happy Huntings, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 2/2/15, Jeff Kuyken via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hi all, Some of you may have seen me post this on Facebook already but for those of you who haven't, unfortunately the Australian Monash University Meteorite Recovery program is under threat of being cancelled this year due to lack of funding. This is the same one that I assisted with in 2012 2013 so I have seen firsthand the contributions this team makes and what they are doing to further Australian meteoritical science. In fact, over the past several years, this program has been responsible for discovering around 20% of all of Australia's meteorite finds. So this year, with funding having run out, the team is turning to the public and meteorite community for help. For those of you who would like to consider helping or would even just like to learn a bit more about the program, please see the link below. There is plenty of information there about the program and also how this crowd funding would contribute to another successful year. http://www.pozible.com/project/189365 Thanks, Jeff Kuyken Meteorites Australia www.meteorites.com.au __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
