Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay, again!
why CK4? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Carbonaceous-chondrite-CK4-type-from-the-Lop-Nur-/141457699376?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item20ef893230 Katsu __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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But this seller is a little more careful. Did you notice the note a bit further down: without identification, it may not be a meteorite And it probably isn't. ;-) Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Katsu OHTSUKA via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, Nov 3, 2014 8:31 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay, again! why CK4? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Carbonaceous-chondrite-CK4-type-from-the-Lop-Nur-/141457699376?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item20ef893230 Katsu __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay, again! (Thanks to Zsolt also)
The seller that Zsolt warned us about is much more dangerous to the unwary. While some fakes are obvious, a seller who can fool Martin, Zsolt, and other knowledgeable dealers is to be avoided at all costs. They mix just enough real specimens in with the fakes to lend credibility to their bogus offerings. One is real, the next is fake. Those are the types of sellers we need to keep an eye on. Thanks again to Zsolt for exposing that scammer. This Chinese guy with the dirty fingernails holding his CK4 meteorite is pretty obvious. But, if anyone wants a Lop Nur CK4, I have a driveway full of them. Wait, is Lop Nut similar to the Loc Nar? Are they related? If so, definitely avoid! ;) On 11/3/14, Anne Black via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: But this seller is a little more careful. Did you notice the note a bit further down: without identification, it may not be a meteorite And it probably isn't. ;-) Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Katsu OHTSUKA via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, Nov 3, 2014 8:31 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay, again! why CK4? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Carbonaceous-chondrite-CK4-type-from-the-Lop-Nur-/141457699376?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item20ef893230 Katsu __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay, again! (Thanks to Zsolt also)
Dear All! Unfortunatelly the hungaraian fraud seller contunue his activity in FB:( But he is under police investegation. It looks well he doesnt affraid for the police. Yesterday he posted also many fakes meteorites in his FB profile. Just check it in FB: Jozef Levi Ziegler Levi How can it to stop he fraud activity? What do you think? Regards! Zsolt IMCA#6251 PS: Iam tired in this fight... 2014.11.04. dátummal, 4:59 időpontban Galactic Stone Ironworks via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com írta: The seller that Zsolt warned us about is much more dangerous to the unwary. While some fakes are obvious, a seller who can fool Martin, Zsolt, and other knowledgeable dealers is to be avoided at all costs. They mix just enough real specimens in with the fakes to lend credibility to their bogus offerings. One is real, the next is fake. Those are the types of sellers we need to keep an eye on. Thanks again to Zsolt for exposing that scammer. This Chinese guy with the dirty fingernails holding his CK4 meteorite is pretty obvious. But, if anyone wants a Lop Nur CK4, I have a driveway full of them. Wait, is Lop Nut similar to the Loc Nar? Are they related? If so, definitely avoid! ;) On 11/3/14, Anne Black via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: But this seller is a little more careful. Did you notice the note a bit further down: without identification, it may not be a meteorite And it probably isn't. ;-) Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Katsu OHTSUKA via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, Nov 3, 2014 8:31 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay, again! why CK4? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Carbonaceous-chondrite-CK4-type-from-the-Lop-Nur-/141457699376?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item20ef893230 Katsu __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi all, Well the auction ended on the 24th and he never replied to my question / comment. 0 bids. Hopefully people are smartening up. Regards! Tom __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Well said, Mike. Is it true that Pepperidge Farm is hereby suspending all future crumb sales to you...?! Best, Daniel Daniel Noyes Genuine Moon Mars Meteorite Rocks i...@moonmarsrocks.com www.moonmarsrocks.com -- Original message: Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 21:46:12 -0400 From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay Again! Message-ID: CAKBPJW-=dzogcz8d8hoay9ykbbw1r4ndhf+7nkw5kqidnjt...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 No, you did not question my material specifically, but you painted a non-flattering picture in very broad strokes. I am sure the unspoken implication was there, as you have gone on the record in the past as not being a fan of me, my crumbs, my coupon codes, and my ads. Personally, I have never had an issue with you. We have never had any dealings, good or bad. We just seem to cross wires on the List from time to time. If I feel a need to test a specimen, then I don't buy it. If I don't trust my source well enough to take their specimen at face value, then I don't want it. I assume many buyers feel the same way, dealer or collector. There are some sellers out there (some on eBay), that I wouldn't buy from if they were the last meteorite dealer on Earth. Not because they have passed off bogus crumbs, but because they have passed off bogus whole stones or larger fakes. There are not many dealers who test every stone of every batch of material they buy. Some do. Many do not. How many dealers buy a few kilos of NWA 869 from Morocco and then submit samples of that material for testing before reselling it? Ditto for almost any such material on the market. Chergach? Prove it. Bassi? Prove it. Oum Dreyga? Prove it. Zag? El Hammami? Ash Creek? Buzzard Coulee? If I spend $5 on a crumb and it turns out to be driveway dirt, then I got burned. If I paid $100 or $500 or $5000 for a specimen for North American fall and it turns out to be a North African find, then I am sorry as hell. Who is selling fake crumbs besides one or two clowns on eBay? There are some bogus planetary displays going around and we are well aware of them - their identities have been exposed due to diligence from the community. Are there others who are operating in such numbers and volume that they threaten the integrity of the collector's market and the viability of research collections? Does NASA or ASU have some NWA in their cabinets masquerading as Tagish Lake? Did someone slip some Jbilet Winselwan into the Murchison jar? I hear a lot of things. I hear stuff about shady deals and shady operators. And I haven't heard jack about anyone dealing in bogus crumbs. It sounds like fear-mongering to me. The IMCA has enough to worry about without taking on the responsibility for policing the market's Bessey Specks. That's it, I think we should blame Dean. It's all his fault. LOL. ;) I collect crumbs. I have more crumbs than Pepperidge Farm. If people want genuine crumbs that are what the label says they are, they can come to me. There are a few more crumb-mongers who are legit. I won't name names, but they are probably reading this with interest, because that picture you painted includes them also - not by name, but by implication. That's all. This is silly. I'll shut up. -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 10/23/14, bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com wrote: First, I didn't question your material. I question crumbs in general. Second, it shouldn't be the responsibility of the buyer to try and find a lab that would be willing to examine crumbs. Crumb sellers know this. So, I think it's time for someone to take this task seriously and look at these endless micros. IMCA maybe? I see your footnote about hate. What is that about? Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 20:32:02 -0400 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay Again! From: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Bill - Put your money where your mouth is. I have 100 localities of crumbs. Test every single one of them and post the results publicly. I'll give you a killer one-time discount deal for the purposes of testing. Use an XRF gun, microprobe, SEM, nickel test, magnetic susceptibility, or whatever method you choose. Just because you have a crazy bias against people who collect micromounts (and trade in them), doesn't give you any authority to make blanket judgements. Yes, buyers should always beware, and this is especially true with micro-crumbs that are not easily identified in a visual manner. If somebody wants a genuine speck
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Hi list, I just asked him this question. Doubt he'll reply. If this is indeed lunar (It is not BTW) please post the lab results on this item. this is in regards to: http://www.ebay.com/itm/261633421436 Regards! Tom __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Yes to all of that and lets not forget the sellers of crumbs and specks. The sale of miniscule meteorite material may be the most horrific method of undermining the collections of the most vulnerable buyers. Those that are enthusiastic but on a limited budget. People who peddle these worthless pips know full well that the material will never be authenticated so they continue relentlessly without question, criticism or the slightest regulation because this bs is profitable. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Bill - Put your money where your mouth is. I have 100 localities of crumbs. Test every single one of them and post the results publicly. I'll give you a killer one-time discount deal for the purposes of testing. Use an XRF gun, microprobe, SEM, nickel test, magnetic susceptibility, or whatever method you choose. Just because you have a crazy bias against people who collect micromounts (and trade in them), doesn't give you any authority to make blanket judgements. Yes, buyers should always beware, and this is especially true with micro-crumbs that are not easily identified in a visual manner. If somebody wants a genuine speck of something rare, they know where to go. There are a few of us who are well-known and our sources are well-known. I get my crumbs from many of the same big dealers that high-budget collectors and institutions acquire material from. I just get the remainders and pieces that are too small for their clients and purposes. Nothing goes to waste. What do you do with the tiny specks and crumbs that fall off the larger specimens during handling? Suck it up with a dust-buster and throw it in the landfill? Yes to all of that and lets not forget the sellers of crumbs and specks. The sale of miniscule meteorite material may be the most horrific method of undermining the collections of the most vulnerable buyers. The most vulnerable buyers? Some of my clients have microprobes. Haters gonna hate. They see me rolling. -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 10/23/14, bill kies via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Yes to all of that and lets not forget the sellers of crumbs and specks. The sale of miniscule meteorite material may be the most horrific method of undermining the collections of the most vulnerable buyers. Those that are enthusiastic but on a limited budget. People who peddle these worthless pips know full well that the material will never be authenticated so they continue relentlessly without question, criticism or the slightest regulation because this bs is profitable. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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First, I didn't question your material. I question crumbs in general. Second, it shouldn't be the responsibility of the buyer to try and find a lab that would be willing to examine crumbs. Crumb sellers know this. So, I think it's time for someone to take this task seriously and look at these endless micros. IMCA maybe? I see your footnote about hate. What is that about? Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 20:32:02 -0400 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay Again! From: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Bill - Put your money where your mouth is. I have 100 localities of crumbs. Test every single one of them and post the results publicly. I'll give you a killer one-time discount deal for the purposes of testing. Use an XRF gun, microprobe, SEM, nickel test, magnetic susceptibility, or whatever method you choose. Just because you have a crazy bias against people who collect micromounts (and trade in them), doesn't give you any authority to make blanket judgements. Yes, buyers should always beware, and this is especially true with micro-crumbs that are not easily identified in a visual manner. If somebody wants a genuine speck of something rare, they know where to go. There are a few of us who are well-known and our sources are well-known. I get my crumbs from many of the same big dealers that high-budget collectors and institutions acquire material from. I just get the remainders and pieces that are too small for their clients and purposes. Nothing goes to waste. What do you do with the tiny specks and crumbs that fall off the larger specimens during handling? Suck it up with a dust-buster and throw it in the landfill? Yes to all of that and lets not forget the sellers of crumbs and specks. The sale of miniscule meteorite material may be the most horrific method of undermining the collections of the most vulnerable buyers. The most vulnerable buyers? Some of my clients have microprobes. Haters gonna hate. They see me rolling. -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 10/23/14, bill kies via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Yes to all of that and lets not forget the sellers of crumbs and specks. The sale of miniscule meteorite material may be the most horrific method of undermining the collections of the most vulnerable buyers. Those that are enthusiastic but on a limited budget. People who peddle these worthless pips know full well that the material will never be authenticated so they continue relentlessly without question, criticism or the slightest regulation because this bs is profitable. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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No, you did not question my material specifically, but you painted a non-flattering picture in very broad strokes. I am sure the unspoken implication was there, as you have gone on the record in the past as not being a fan of me, my crumbs, my coupon codes, and my ads. Personally, I have never had an issue with you. We have never had any dealings, good or bad. We just seem to cross wires on the List from time to time. If I feel a need to test a specimen, then I don't buy it. If I don't trust my source well enough to take their specimen at face value, then I don't want it. I assume many buyers feel the same way, dealer or collector. There are some sellers out there (some on eBay), that I wouldn't buy from if they were the last meteorite dealer on Earth. Not because they have passed off bogus crumbs, but because they have passed off bogus whole stones or larger fakes. There are not many dealers who test every stone of every batch of material they buy. Some do. Many do not. How many dealers buy a few kilos of NWA 869 from Morocco and then submit samples of that material for testing before reselling it? Ditto for almost any such material on the market. Chergach? Prove it. Bassi? Prove it. Oum Dreyga? Prove it. Zag? El Hammami? Ash Creek? Buzzard Coulee? If I spend $5 on a crumb and it turns out to be driveway dirt, then I got burned. If I paid $100 or $500 or $5000 for a specimen for North American fall and it turns out to be a North African find, then I am sorry as hell. Who is selling fake crumbs besides one or two clowns on eBay? There are some bogus planetary displays going around and we are well aware of them - their identities have been exposed due to diligence from the community. Are there others who are operating in such numbers and volume that they threaten the integrity of the collector's market and the viability of research collections? Does NASA or ASU have some NWA in their cabinets masquerading as Tagish Lake? Did someone slip some Jbilet Winselwan into the Murchison jar? I hear a lot of things. I hear stuff about shady deals and shady operators. And I haven't heard jack about anyone dealing in bogus crumbs. It sounds like fear-mongering to me. The IMCA has enough to worry about without taking on the responsibility for policing the market's Bessey Specks. That's it, I think we should blame Dean. It's all his fault. LOL. ;) I collect crumbs. I have more crumbs than Pepperidge Farm. If people want genuine crumbs that are what the label says they are, they can come to me. There are a few more crumb-mongers who are legit. I won't name names, but they are probably reading this with interest, because that picture you painted includes them also - not by name, but by implication. That's all. This is silly. I'll shut up. -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 10/23/14, bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com wrote: First, I didn't question your material. I question crumbs in general. Second, it shouldn't be the responsibility of the buyer to try and find a lab that would be willing to examine crumbs. Crumb sellers know this. So, I think it's time for someone to take this task seriously and look at these endless micros. IMCA maybe? I see your footnote about hate. What is that about? Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 20:32:02 -0400 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay Again! From: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Bill - Put your money where your mouth is. I have 100 localities of crumbs. Test every single one of them and post the results publicly. I'll give you a killer one-time discount deal for the purposes of testing. Use an XRF gun, microprobe, SEM, nickel test, magnetic susceptibility, or whatever method you choose. Just because you have a crazy bias against people who collect micromounts (and trade in them), doesn't give you any authority to make blanket judgements. Yes, buyers should always beware, and this is especially true with micro-crumbs that are not easily identified in a visual manner. If somebody wants a genuine speck of something rare, they know where to go. There are a few of us who are well-known and our sources are well-known. I get my crumbs from many of the same big dealers that high-budget collectors and institutions acquire material from. I just get the remainders and pieces that are too small for their clients and purposes. Nothing goes to waste. What do you do with the tiny specks and crumbs that fall off the larger specimens during handling? Suck it up with a dust-buster and throw it in the landfill? Yes to all of that and lets not forget the sellers of crumbs
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On Thursday 23 October 2014, Galactic Stone Ironworks via Meteorite-list wrote: Put your money where your mouth is. Exactly. If it were not for your micro-crumbs I would not have a legitimate reason to continue to hang around this list. Not only was my very first purchase quite rare and from a country that currently forbids export, it was a birthday fall for me! Still think I have the most interesting 'wrong' in the US;-) -- William __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Mike, My ONLY ONLY question regarding YOUR micro's is---are they gluten free and/or vitamin A enriched? John - Original Message - From: Galactic Stone Ironworks via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 9:46 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay Again! No, you did not question my material specifically, but you painted a non-flattering picture in very broad strokes. I am sure the unspoken implication was there, as you have gone on the record in the past as not being a fan of me, my crumbs, my coupon codes, and my ads. Personally, I have never had an issue with you. We have never had any dealings, good or bad. We just seem to cross wires on the List from time to time. If I feel a need to test a specimen, then I don't buy it. If I don't trust my source well enough to take their specimen at face value, then I don't want it. I assume many buyers feel the same way, dealer or collector. There are some sellers out there (some on eBay), that I wouldn't buy from if they were the last meteorite dealer on Earth. Not because they have passed off bogus crumbs, but because they have passed off bogus whole stones or larger fakes. There are not many dealers who test every stone of every batch of material they buy. Some do. Many do not. How many dealers buy a few kilos of NWA 869 from Morocco and then submit samples of that material for testing before reselling it? Ditto for almost any such material on the market. Chergach? Prove it. Bassi? Prove it. Oum Dreyga? Prove it. Zag? El Hammami? Ash Creek? Buzzard Coulee? If I spend $5 on a crumb and it turns out to be driveway dirt, then I got burned. If I paid $100 or $500 or $5000 for a specimen for North American fall and it turns out to be a North African find, then I am sorry as hell. Who is selling fake crumbs besides one or two clowns on eBay? There are some bogus planetary displays going around and we are well aware of them - their identities have been exposed due to diligence from the community. Are there others who are operating in such numbers and volume that they threaten the integrity of the collector's market and the viability of research collections? Does NASA or ASU have some NWA in their cabinets masquerading as Tagish Lake? Did someone slip some Jbilet Winselwan into the Murchison jar? I hear a lot of things. I hear stuff about shady deals and shady operators. And I haven't heard jack about anyone dealing in bogus crumbs. It sounds like fear-mongering to me. The IMCA has enough to worry about without taking on the responsibility for policing the market's Bessey Specks. That's it, I think we should blame Dean. It's all his fault. LOL. ;) I collect crumbs. I have more crumbs than Pepperidge Farm. If people want genuine crumbs that are what the label says they are, they can come to me. There are a few more crumb-mongers who are legit. I won't name names, but they are probably reading this with interest, because that picture you painted includes them also - not by name, but by implication. That's all. This is silly. I'll shut up. -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 10/23/14, bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com wrote: First, I didn't question your material. I question crumbs in general. Second, it shouldn't be the responsibility of the buyer to try and find a lab that would be willing to examine crumbs. Crumb sellers know this. So, I think it's time for someone to take this task seriously and look at these endless micros. IMCA maybe? I see your footnote about hate. What is that about? Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 20:32:02 -0400 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay Again! From: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Bill - Put your money where your mouth is. I have 100 localities of crumbs. Test every single one of them and post the results publicly. I'll give you a killer one-time discount deal for the purposes of testing. Use an XRF gun, microprobe, SEM, nickel test, magnetic susceptibility, or whatever method you choose. Just because you have a crazy bias against people who collect micromounts (and trade in them), doesn't give you any authority to make blanket judgements. Yes, buyers should always beware, and this is especially true with micro-crumbs that are not easily identified in a visual manner. If somebody wants a genuine speck of something rare, they know where to go. There are a few of us who are well-known and our sources are well-known. I get my crumbs from many of the same big dealers that high-budget collectors and institutions acquire
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Hi All, Do wonders never cease. The blue hue is interesting, but if it is a lunar, then I'm Mickey Mouse! Maybe it is another one of those Magic Moon rocks, but in this case it turns blue when you flash it with a camera. Speaking of which...P. T. Barnum was right and with the holiday season coming up, there will be those that are naïve and buy something as a gift that is far from what they thought. Case in point, I have tried multiple times to get ebay to address this listing that has been on there for many months: http://www.ebay.com/itm/231011500778?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Judging from the current listing, they have sold 13 of these magic moon rock kits in this round alone. Being a novelty item and cheap price is irrelevant. It's bad. I have submitted complaints several times in the ebay report an item procedure, pointing out that to list it in the title as Moon rocks and then do nothing in the description to substantiate the claim is bogus, especially when they are nothing of the sort. Ebay has done zip in response. Maybe someone more persuasive can get eBay's attention. Notes to the seller go unanswered. The only magic is their ability to trick the unsuspecting! Best regards, Daniel Daniel Noyes Genuine Moon Mars Meteorite Rocks i...@moonmarsrocks.com www.moonmarsrocks.com Message: 7 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 21:16:31 -0400 From: Anne Black impact...@aol.com To: murray.paul...@gmail.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay Again! Message-ID: 8d1bbacf18eb693-1618-a...@webmail-vm113.sysops.aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed It looks like a piece of shale. Has anyone ever heard of that seller? Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Murray Paulson murray.paul...@gmail.com To: Anne Black impact...@aol.com; meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, Oct 21, 2014 7:12 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay Again! Hi Anne: It gets worse, try his lunar... http://www.ebay.com/itm/261633421436 Murray On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 7:06 PM, Anne Black via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: This has just been brought to my attention. Would someone please tell me what a Hexocondrite is? That's a new one to me.? ?;-) http://www.ebay.com/itm/five-lb-hexocondrite-meteorite-/261633660087?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3cea94d4b7 Thank you. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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You might as well be saying Look how smart (you are.) I don't know who is alerting Anne Black to these ads, but to me, at the least, and I would predict I am not the only one, the person is an utter nuisance. Regarding this latest ad, it would be too ridiculous to comment upon it, so I will refrain. -Peter Richards __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Folks, Over the years, going back into the List archive, you will see intermittent spurts of vigilance for these fakes, especially in regards to eBay listings. Frankly, there are just too many different sellers and too many different fakes to police them all. eBay does not help in most cases and you are generally wasting your time trying to get eBay to make enforcement on their end work. That leaves us on the outside, and most of us are too busy with life to take on the added work of being eBay-Cop for meteorwrongs. It is also a thankless job if one chooses to accept the work - lots of pissed off or trollish sellers who do not give a damn and the sucker buyers are born every minute. The obvious fakes are not really the true problem. The misrepresented meteorites are the biggest threat to market and collections integrity in my opinion. Selling a piece obvious of coal or slag as a meteorite is usually a one-off scam by some opportunistic yahoo - they use disposable eBay accounts and it's like playing whack-a-mole to keep them in check. Truthfully, they cannot be stopped entirely - it's buyer beware. A modest amount of homework before buying will pay big dividends with any newbie buyer. The bigger and more insidious threat is fallen dealers operating in the relative safety of eBay - they put out mislabeled or misrepresented meteorites. They are real meteorites, but not the type or locality being offered. Is that an Ash Creek or a Chergach? Is that a Buzzard Coulee or a fresh-looking Bassikounou? Is that really a Chelyabinsk or a Oum Dreyga? Some are easy to spot and avoid - others can be tricky to the eye with clever camera-work and lighting. The best advice for eBay newbies - know your seller. If you do not, then find someone who does and ask them. Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 10/22/14, Peter Richards via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: You might as well be saying Look how smart (you are.) I don't know who is alerting Anne Black to these ads, but to me, at the least, and I would predict I am not the only one, the person is an utter nuisance. Regarding this latest ad, it would be too ridiculous to comment upon it, so I will refrain. -Peter Richards __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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This has just been brought to my attention. Would someone please tell me what a Hexocondrite is? That's a new one to me. ;-) http://www.ebay.com/itm/five-lb-hexocondrite-meteorite-/261633660087?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3cea94d4b7 Thank you. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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HI Anne, I'm not sure what it is, but judging from his photo I have a few in my drive way! On second look he tells you what it is - It's an Aluminum Nickel Meteorite Duh! On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Anne Black via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: This has just been brought to my attention. Would someone please tell me what a Hexocondrite is? That's a new one to me. ;-) http://www.ebay.com/itm/five-lb-hexocondrite-meteorite-/261633660087?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3cea94d4b7 Thank you. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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It looks like a piece of shale. Has anyone ever heard of that seller? Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Murray Paulson murray.paul...@gmail.com To: Anne Black impact...@aol.com; meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, Oct 21, 2014 7:12 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay Again! Hi Anne: It gets worse, try his lunar... http://www.ebay.com/itm/261633421436 Murray On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 7:06 PM, Anne Black via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: This has just been brought to my attention. Would someone please tell me what a Hexocondrite is? That's a new one to me. ;-) http://www.ebay.com/itm/five-lb-hexocondrite-meteorite-/261633660087?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3cea94d4b7 Thank you. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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I think it is obvious that it is a chondrite that you curse people with especially the seller. Or an OC with less than 5% nickel. LOL Mendy Ouzillou On Oct 21, 2014, at 6:17 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: HI Anne, I'm not sure what it is, but judging from his photo I have a few in my drive way! On second look he tells you what it is - It's an Aluminum Nickel Meteorite Duh! On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Anne Black via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: This has just been brought to my attention. Would someone please tell me what a Hexocondrite is? That's a new one to me. ;-) http://www.ebay.com/itm/five-lb-hexocondrite-meteorite-/261633660087?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3cea94d4b7 Thank you. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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These rocks are bituminous coal that fell off passing trains. I live right next to where these were collected (Newark, Ohio), and the old railroad followed the creek. I've seen this material myself many times. I informed the seller of this, and here's his reply: lol if you think this is coal ur a mor on Can't argue with that. James On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Mendy.Ouzillou via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: I think it is obvious that it is a chondrite that you curse people with especially the seller. Or an OC with less than 5% nickel. LOL Mendy Ouzillou On Oct 21, 2014, at 6:17 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: HI Anne, I'm not sure what it is, but judging from his photo I have a few in my drive way! On second look he tells you what it is - It's an Aluminum Nickel Meteorite Duh! On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Anne Black via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: This has just been brought to my attention. Would someone please tell me what a Hexocondrite is? That's a new one to me. ;-) http://www.ebay.com/itm/five-lb-hexocondrite-meteorite-/261633660087?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3cea94d4b7 Thank you. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Exactly what I thought and stated, a grinder cicle! The problem is that this slag will often test positive for nickel. Ford motor company used a good amount of nickel in their FE big block engines. Many of these engines were melted down, recycled and ground on. Unless a flying saucer is equipped with a Ford big block engine, then these claims of extraterrestrial origin are invalid. Best Regards, Adam - Original Message - From: Dennis Miller via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: Werner Schroer schr...@bigpond.com Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 10:49 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay, again! Bench mounted grinding wheel slag!!! I've seen many, during machine shop clean ups.. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 2, 2014, at 1:55 AM, Werner Schroer via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hi everyone, I'm happy to announce that I'm the proud owner of an almost identical specimen. Since I don't want it to become contaminated I don't keep it in my display cabinets amongst the other meteorites but prefer to watch it rusting away in my sterile backyard. It is quite obvious that these objects are created in the mysterious underworld of Mars as a secret weapon for Gandalf who occasionally throws them in our direction to remind us that he's still alive, and NOT during welding processes as they happen every day on earth by the thousands. Cheers Werner Schroer Australia -Original Message- From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Anne Black via Meteorite-list Sent: Thursday, 2 October 2014 9:20 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Ebay, again! I have seen some very strange things on Ebay, but this one..! The Thing, the explanations, the proofs,... Amazing! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Metalic-object-from-Mars-Great-gift-for-a-serious-co llector-of-space-objects-GO-/221563298601?_trksid=p2056016.m2518.l4276 Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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And...the inevitable. all sales of Martian Ford FE powered choo-choo train UFO cicle-slag main masses are hereby... -Original Message- From: Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 8:36 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay, again! Exactly what I thought and stated, a grinder cicle! The problem is that this slag will often test positive for nickel. Ford motor company used a good amount of nickel in their FE big block engines. Many of these engines were melted down, recycled and ground on. Unless a flying saucer is equipped with a Ford big block engine, then these claims of extraterrestrial origin are invalid. Best Regards, Adam - Original Message - From: Dennis Miller via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: Werner Schroer schr...@bigpond.com Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 10:49 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay, again! Bench mounted grinding wheel slag!!! I've seen many, during machine shop clean ups.. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 2, 2014, at 1:55 AM, Werner Schroer via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hi everyone, I'm happy to announce that I'm the proud owner of an almost identical specimen. Since I don't want it to become contaminated I don't keep it in my display cabinets amongst the other meteorites but prefer to watch it rusting away in my sterile backyard. It is quite obvious that these objects are created in the mysterious underworld of Mars as a secret weapon for Gandalf who occasionally throws them in our direction to remind us that he's still alive, and NOT during welding processes as they happen every day on earth by the thousands. Cheers Werner Schroer Australia -Original Message- From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Anne Black via Meteorite-list Sent: Thursday, 2 October 2014 9:20 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Ebay, again! I have seen some very strange things on Ebay, but this one..! The Thing, the explanations, the proofs,... Amazing! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Metalic-object-from-Mars-Great-gift-for-a-serious-co llector-of-space-objects-GO-/221563298601?_trksid=p2056016.m2518.l4276 Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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I have seen some very strange things on Ebay, but this one..! The Thing, the explanations, the proofs,... Amazing! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Metalic-object-from-Mars-Great-gift-for-a-serious-collector-of-space-objects-GO-/221563298601?_trksid=p2056016.m2518.l4276 Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi everyone, I'm happy to announce that I'm the proud owner of an almost identical specimen. Since I don't want it to become contaminated I don't keep it in my display cabinets amongst the other meteorites but prefer to watch it rusting away in my sterile backyard. It is quite obvious that these objects are created in the mysterious underworld of Mars as a secret weapon for Gandalf who occasionally throws them in our direction to remind us that he's still alive, and NOT during welding processes as they happen every day on earth by the thousands. Cheers Werner Schroer Australia -Original Message- From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Anne Black via Meteorite-list Sent: Thursday, 2 October 2014 9:20 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Ebay, again! I have seen some very strange things on Ebay, but this one..! The Thing, the explanations, the proofs,... Amazing! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Metalic-object-from-Mars-Great-gift-for-a-serious-co llector-of-space-objects-GO-/221563298601?_trksid=p2056016.m2518.l4276 Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Well, he needs to fetch a high price to realize a profit after spending $200K analyzing it. ;) On the bright side, it is an interesting piece of leaverite. Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 10/1/14, Anne Black via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: I have seen some very strange things on Ebay, but this one..! The Thing, the explanations, the proofs,... Amazing! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Metalic-object-from-Mars-Great-gift-for-a-serious-collector-of-space-objects-GO-/221563298601?_trksid=p2056016.m2518.l4276 Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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It reminds me of what Einstein said: only 2 things are infinite: Space and human stupidity. But I am not sure about Space. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com To: Anne Black impact...@aol.com Cc: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, Oct 1, 2014 6:55 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay, again! Well, he needs to fetch a high price to realize a profit after spending $200K analyzing it. ;) On the bright side, it is an interesting piece of leaverite. Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 10/1/14, Anne Black via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: I have seen some very strange things on Ebay, but this one..! The Thing, the explanations, the proofs,... Amazing! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Metalic-object-from-Mars-Great-gift-for-a-serious-collector-of-space-objects-GO-/221563298601?_trksid=p2056016.m2518.l4276 Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay, again!
This is a metal cicle that spalled off of a grinder in a machine shop. The other thing was here in Laughlin, NV at a UFO convention where Bob White got all the free drinks he could handle. Wait a minute; Drinks are served for free here at any casino, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year in Laughlin. All you have to do is ask. Best of Luck with this one, Adam - Original Message - From: Anne Black via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 4:50 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Ebay, again! I have seen some very strange things on Ebay, but this one..! The Thing, the explanations, the proofs,... Amazing! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Metalic-object-from-Mars-Great-gift-for-a-serious-collector-of-space-objects-GO-/221563298601?_trksid=p2056016.m2518.l4276 Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay, again!
I wrote some yummy stuff about this today. Mainly, to look closely for the Martian choo-choo trainwe know such deposits build up behind freight-train brakes (I see them everywhere) and menace our tools in the shop. Why not look for choo-choo trains on Mars? -Richard M -Original Message- From: Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 6:15 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay, again! This is a metal cicle that spalled off of a grinder in a machine shop. The other thing was here in Laughlin, NV at a UFO convention where Bob White got all the free drinks he could handle. Wait a minute; Drinks are served for free here at any casino, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year in Laughlin. All you have to do is ask. Best of Luck with this one, Adam - Original Message - From: Anne Black via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 4:50 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Ebay, again! I have seen some very strange things on Ebay, but this one..! The Thing, the explanations, the proofs,... Amazing! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Metalic-object-from-Mars-Great-gift-for-a-serious-collector-of-space-objects-GO-/221563298601?_trksid=p2056016.m2518.l4276 Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay, again!
The guy selling this thing is probably the same patron at the Old Town Saloon here in Nevada that was crying about being stocked by a massive flying saucer everywhere he goes. He claims to have trapped a baby flying saucer out in the desert under a deadfall baited with Jack Daniels an pepperoni logs. He reported to the small crowd that the mother ship has been bothering every since. He said that he hit the UFO over the head with a shovel one time and sent it packing with hits tail between its legs but it keeps coming back. The locals here were not all that impressed with his story but he was insistent. It is obvious that UFO Conventions, Jack Daniels and the Mohave desert don't mix! - Original Message - From: rickm...@earthlink.net To: Raremeteorites raremeteori...@centurylink.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay, again! I wrote some yummy stuff about this today. Mainly, to look closely for the Martian choo-choo trainwe know such deposits build up behind freight-train brakes (I see them everywhere) and menace our tools in the shop. Why not look for choo-choo trains on Mars? -Richard M -Original Message- From: Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 6:15 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay, again! This is a metal cicle that spalled off of a grinder in a machine shop. The other thing was here in Laughlin, NV at a UFO convention where Bob White got all the free drinks he could handle. Wait a minute; Drinks are served for free here at any casino, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year in Laughlin. All you have to do is ask. Best of Luck with this one, Adam - Original Message - From: Anne Black via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 4:50 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Ebay, again! I have seen some very strange things on Ebay, but this one..! The Thing, the explanations, the proofs,... Amazing! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Metalic-object-from-Mars-Great-gift-for-a-serious-collector-of-space-objects-GO-/221563298601?_trksid=p2056016.m2518.l4276 Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay, again!
Wow! Maybe I should have kept all of the ones that I knocked off of the chop saw. I'd gladly have sold them for one-tenth of the asking price in this auction! Ed - Original Message - From: Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 9:15 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay, again! This is a metal cicle that spalled off of a grinder in a machine shop. The other thing was here in Laughlin, NV at a UFO convention where Bob White got all the free drinks he could handle. Wait a minute; Drinks are served for free here at any casino, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year in Laughlin. All you have to do is ask. Best of Luck with this one, Adam - Original Message - From: Anne Black via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 4:50 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Ebay, again! I have seen some very strange things on Ebay, but this one..! The Thing, the explanations, the proofs,... Amazing! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Metalic-object-from-Mars-Great-gift-for-a-serious-collector-of-space-objects-GO-/221563298601?_trksid=p2056016.m2518.l4276 Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay, again!
Bench mounted grinding wheel slag!!! I've seen many, during machine shop clean ups.. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 2, 2014, at 1:55 AM, Werner Schroer via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hi everyone, I'm happy to announce that I'm the proud owner of an almost identical specimen. Since I don't want it to become contaminated I don't keep it in my display cabinets amongst the other meteorites but prefer to watch it rusting away in my sterile backyard. It is quite obvious that these objects are created in the mysterious underworld of Mars as a secret weapon for Gandalf who occasionally throws them in our direction to remind us that he's still alive, and NOT during welding processes as they happen every day on earth by the thousands. Cheers Werner Schroer Australia -Original Message- From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Anne Black via Meteorite-list Sent: Thursday, 2 October 2014 9:20 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Ebay, again! I have seen some very strange things on Ebay, but this one..! The Thing, the explanations, the proofs,... Amazing! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Metalic-object-from-Mars-Great-gift-for-a-serious-co llector-of-space-objects-GO-/221563298601?_trksid=p2056016.m2518.l4276 Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ebay, Again!
Hello, Yes, back to meteorites. Maybe! This Ebayer has just been brought to my attention: _http://shop.ebay.com/hroller22/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562_ (http://shop.ebay.com/hroller22/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562) He is selling a lot of Campos, odd ones with only 11% iron! I don't believe anyone of them has ever been in space. Would anyone of you know that seller? He is in Las Vegas, so maybe one of you Las Vegas meteorite-experts might like to talk to him about real meteorites. Count Deiro? you said you were bored!!! ;-) Good luck. Anne M. Black http://www.impactika.com/ impact...@aol.com President, I.M.C.A. Inc. http://www.imca.cc/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay, Again!
His email says g.marcos @ yahoo. Looks like obsidian to me. impact...@aol.com wrote: Hello, Yes, back to meteorites. Maybe! This Ebayer has just been brought to my attention: _http://shop.ebay.com/hroller22/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562_ (http://shop.ebay.com/hroller22/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562) He is selling a lot of Campos, odd ones with only 11% iron! I don't believe anyone of them has ever been in space. Would anyone of you know that seller? He is in Las Vegas, so maybe one of you Las Vegas meteorite-experts might like to talk to him about real meteorites. Count Deiro? you said you were bored!!! ;-) Good luck. Anne M. Black http://www.impactika.com/ impact...@aol.com President, I.M.C.A. Inc. http://www.imca.cc/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay, Again!
Anne, I can pick up a bunch of those between each rail-road tie. - Original Message - From: impact...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 10:58 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Ebay, Again! Hello, Yes, back to meteorites. Maybe! This Ebayer has just been brought to my attention: _http://shop.ebay.com/hroller22/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562_ (http://shop.ebay.com/hroller22/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562) He is selling a lot of Campos, odd ones with only 11% iron! I don't believe anyone of them has ever been in space. Would anyone of you know that seller? He is in Las Vegas, so maybe one of you Las Vegas meteorite-experts might like to talk to him about real meteorites. Count Deiro? you said you were bored!!! ;-) Good luck. Anne M. Black http://www.impactika.com/ impact...@aol.com President, I.M.C.A. Inc. http://www.imca.cc/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay, Again!
Anne and all, This first listed specimen looks a lot like Snowflake Obsidian notice the gray oval spots on it in one of the 3 photos. Some of the other specimens look like slag also. He's the High Roller and has many feedback on his Campo and some Wabar iron. All the best! Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay, Again!
These look like slag to me. Pat Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 14:09:17 -0500 From: actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; impact...@aol.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay, Again! His email says g.marcos @ yahoo. Looks like obsidian to me. impact...@aol.com wrote: Hello, Yes, back to meteorites. Maybe! This Ebayer has just been brought to my attention: _http://shop.ebay.com/hroller22/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562_ (http://shop.ebay.com/hroller22/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562) He is selling a lot of Campos, odd ones with only 11% iron! I don't believe anyone of them has ever been in space. Would anyone of you know that seller? He is in Las Vegas, so maybe one of you Las Vegas meteorite-experts might like to talk to him about real meteorites. Count Deiro? you said you were bored!!! ;-) Good luck. Anne M. Black http://www.impactika.com/ impact...@aol.com President, I.M.C.A. Inc. http://www.imca.cc/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay, Again!
I'm on it. Guido -Original Message- From: actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com Sent: Mar 3, 2011 11:09 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, impact...@aol.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay, Again! His email says g.marcos @ yahoo. Looks like obsidian to me. impact...@aol.com wrote: Hello, Yes, back to meteorites. Maybe! This Ebayer has just been brought to my attention: _http://shop.ebay.com/hroller22/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562_ (http://shop.ebay.com/hroller22/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562) He is selling a lot of Campos, odd ones with only 11% iron! I don't believe anyone of them has ever been in space. Would anyone of you know that seller? He is in Las Vegas, so maybe one of you Las Vegas meteorite-experts might like to talk to him about real meteorites. Count Deiro? you said you were bored!!! ;-) Good luck. Anne M. Black http://www.impactika.com/ impact...@aol.com President, I.M.C.A. Inc. http://www.imca.cc/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
