RE: [meteorite-list] Korra Korrabes
The 56g Korra slice that Dave Harris and I were looking at, is actually quite fresh, there is plenty of clean metal (thought I'd expect more in an H) and some nice clean breccia inclusions,! There are a number of very distinct chondrules, but most of them appear to be indistinct! - not weathered indistinct. This is what made us question the classification. Looking at the picture that Matt posted (very similar to mine) does it really look like an H3?? Cheers! Mark Ford __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Korra Korrabes
And I still have 3 or 4 kilos of that material available Matt! Chauncey Matt wrote: > Here is a pic of my complete slice of KK. I bought a couple KG's from Ronnie > Mackenzie back in 2000 or 2001. As you can see it is a killer. Notice the > brecciation. > http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/korra_korrabes.jpg > > Matt Morgan > Mile High Meteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Korra Korrabes
Ohh God, That is beautiful, nothing like my specimen, its cracked and full of holes!!!, I bought it in about that date too!!!, but its not that good!!!, I got it from Meteorite Market, its strange cuz Eric always affers very good things!!!, its the only meteorite that Ive bought from him, to be not what I was expecting!!! THATS REALLY NIC Thanks a lot From: "Matt Morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Rafael B. Torres" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Korra Korrabes Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:20:32 -0700 Ralph: Here is a pic of my complete slice of KK. I bought a couple KG's from Ronnie Mackenzie back in 2000 or 2001. As you can see it is a killer. Notice the brecciation. http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/korra_korrabes.jpg Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rafael B. Torres Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 7:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Korra Korrabes Hello list, I havee the same problem with my Korra KOrrabes, its brown, but it doesnt show any chndrules at all, just a few and sparse, somebody from this list told me that the second material for sale was very rusted, I think that they told it even had oil in it, am I right?...but my KK specimen doesnt show any indications of metal, just holes, where the metal probably resided before. My specimen crubles very easy too..its very fragile, does anyone have pictures of a nice Korra Korrabes???, I would like t see one. Thanks!!! =0) >From: "Dave Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "metlist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [meteorite-list] Korra Korrabes >Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:59:57 + (GMT Standard Time) > >Hi, >Last night Mark Ford and I and an enjoyable evening going thru his new >acquisitions - the one that caused the most confusion was the Korra >Korrabes >specimen - an H3. >Well, we looked at it, compared it to other H3s, also to the Ghubara, and >we >found it difficult to see how this is an H3. >We are obviously missing a critical issue here, because the chondrules were >scant, and indistinct, in fact my Ghub, at an L6 had more structure >visible. > It was a very dark matrix too, whereas a lot of H3s have a light matrix >(ie >Parnallee) >How and why is KK an H3 - the native iron was sparse, and the chondrules >largely invisible. >So, how come it's an H3? > > >inquisitively, >Dave >IMCA #0092 > >__ >Meteorite-list mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Korra Korrabes 67 grams.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2203040917&category=3239&rd=1 Here is a nice large piece of KK that I have for sale right now, ending on sunday, started for one cent, still there. Mike Farmer
RE: [meteorite-list] Korra Korrabes
Ralph: Here is a pic of my complete slice of KK. I bought a couple KG's from Ronnie Mackenzie back in 2000 or 2001. As you can see it is a killer. Notice the brecciation. http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/korra_korrabes.jpg Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rafael B. Torres Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 7:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Korra Korrabes Hello list, I havee the same problem with my Korra KOrrabes, its brown, but it doesnt show any chndrules at all, just a few and sparse, somebody from this list told me that the second material for sale was very rusted, I think that they told it even had oil in it, am I right?...but my KK specimen doesnt show any indications of metal, just holes, where the metal probably resided before. My specimen crubles very easy too..its very fragile, does anyone have pictures of a nice Korra Korrabes???, I would like t see one. Thanks!!! =0) >From: "Dave Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "metlist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [meteorite-list] Korra Korrabes >Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:59:57 + (GMT Standard Time) > >Hi, >Last night Mark Ford and I and an enjoyable evening going thru his new >acquisitions - the one that caused the most confusion was the Korra >Korrabes >specimen - an H3. >Well, we looked at it, compared it to other H3s, also to the Ghubara, and >we >found it difficult to see how this is an H3. >We are obviously missing a critical issue here, because the chondrules were >scant, and indistinct, in fact my Ghub, at an L6 had more structure >visible. > It was a very dark matrix too, whereas a lot of H3s have a light matrix >(ie >Parnallee) >How and why is KK an H3 - the native iron was sparse, and the chondrules >largely invisible. >So, how come it's an H3? > > >inquisitively, >Dave >IMCA #0092 > >__ >Meteorite-list mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Korra Korrabes
Hello list, I havee the same problem with my Korra KOrrabes, its brown, but it doesnt show any chndrules at all, just a few and sparse, somebody from this list told me that the second material for sale was very rusted, I think that they told it even had oil in it, am I right?...but my KK specimen doesnt show any indications of metal, just holes, where the metal probably resided before. My specimen crubles very easy too..its very fragile, does anyone have pictures of a nice Korra Korrabes???, I would like t see one. Thanks!!! =0) From: "Dave Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "metlist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [meteorite-list] Korra Korrabes Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:59:57 + (GMT Standard Time) Hi, Last night Mark Ford and I and an enjoyable evening going thru his new acquisitions - the one that caused the most confusion was the Korra Korrabes specimen - an H3. Well, we looked at it, compared it to other H3s, also to the Ghubara, and we found it difficult to see how this is an H3. We are obviously missing a critical issue here, because the chondrules were scant, and indistinct, in fact my Ghub, at an L6 had more structure visible. It was a very dark matrix too, whereas a lot of H3s have a light matrix (ie Parnallee) How and why is KK an H3 - the native iron was sparse, and the chondrules largely invisible. So, how come it's an H3? inquisitively, Dave IMCA #0092 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Korra Korrabes
H's are usually darker than L's...Ghubara is unusally black when cut/polished, for an L5 (it is a black L with xenoliths)...not normal for L's. Also Parnallee is not a H3...it is a LL3.6...which are lighter in color than H's. JD > Hi, > > Last night Mark Ford and I and an enjoyable evening going thru his new > acquisitions - the one that caused the most confusion was the Korra Korrabes > specimen - an H3. > > Well, we looked at it, compared it to other H3s, also to the Ghubara, and we > found it difficult to see how this is an H3. > > We are obviously missing a critical issue here, because the chondrules were > scant, and indistinct, in fact my Ghub, at an L6 had more structure visible. > It was a very dark matrix too, whereas a lot of H3s have a light matrix (ie > Parnallee) > > How and why is KK an H3 - the native iron was sparse, and the chondrules > largely invisible. > > So, how come it's an H3? > > > > > > inquisitively, > > Dave > > IMCA #0092 > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Korra Korrabes
Oxidation and overall weathering/life on earth kind of thing I would suspect makes this meteorite hard to inspect for evidence. A fresh cut face would be the best you could do in a hand sample...or obviously looking at a thin section would be ideal way to see chondrules(shape and numbers) in the H3 realm. Someone was selling them on ebay this summer/fall I believe. "refamat" was it? JD > Hi, > > Last night Mark Ford and I and an enjoyable evening going thru his new > acquisitions - the one that caused the most confusion was the Korra Korrabes > specimen - an H3. > > Well, we looked at it, compared it to other H3s, also to the Ghubara, and we > found it difficult to see how this is an H3. > > We are obviously missing a critical issue here, because the chondrules were > scant, and indistinct, in fact my Ghub, at an L6 had more structure visible. > It was a very dark matrix too, whereas a lot of H3s have a light matrix (ie > Parnallee) > > How and why is KK an H3 - the native iron was sparse, and the chondrules > largely invisible. > > So, how come it's an H3? > > > > > > inquisitively, > > Dave > > IMCA #0092 > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Korra Korrabes
There are a couple of things you might not know about Korra Korrabes. First, there are two different grades of it that were collected. The very weathered specimens are missing much of the iron due to weathering. Fresher and better preserved specimens have less weathering and fracturing and more intact metal. Second, KK is one of those meteorites that loses much of it's detail when highly polished and viewed with the naked eye. These specimens are best viewed under well-light magnification. To make the details of the specimen more visible to the naked eye, hand sand the specimen with silicon carbide paper in 220 grit or coarser range. Selma is another meteorite that exhibits this same characteristic. When highly polished, it looks nearly black and featureless. But, when prepared properly it shows a lot of chondrules. Best, John At 09:59 PM 11/12/03 +, Dave Harris wrote: Hi, Last night Mark Ford and I and an enjoyable evening going thru his new acquisitions - the one that caused the most confusion was the Korra Korrabes specimen - an H3. Well, we looked at it, compared it to other H3s, also to the Ghubara, and we found it difficult to see how this is an H3. We are obviously missing a critical issue here, because the chondrules were scant, and indistinct, in fact my Ghub, at an L6 had more structure visible. It was a very dark matrix too, whereas a lot of H3s have a light matrix (ie Parnallee) How and why is KK an H3 - the native iron was sparse, and the chondrules largely invisible. So, how come it's an H3? inquisitively, Dave IMCA #0092 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Korra Korrabes
Dave: I think it also depends on which TYPE of Korra you have. I have one that was found early on and is LOADED with gorgeous chondrules and breccia fragments. Later editions of KK were very weathered and thus did not exhibit the well defined chondrules. Also, some of the pieces were actually fragments of the breccia (L5 I think?) and of course, did not show well. Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites Dave Harris wrote: Hi, Last night Mark Ford and I and an enjoyable evening going thru his new acquisitions - the one that caused the most confusion was the Korra Korrabes specimen - an H3. Well, we looked at it, compared it to other H3s, also to the Ghubara, and we found it difficult to see how this is an H3. We are obviously missing a critical issue here, because the chondrules were scant, and indistinct, in fact my Ghub, at an L6 had more structure visible. It was a very dark matrix too, whereas a lot of H3s have a light matrix (ie Parnallee) How and why is KK an H3 - the native iron was sparse, and the chondrules largely invisible. So, how come it's an H3? inquisitively, Dave IMCA #0092 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Korra Korrabes
Hi, Last night Mark Ford and I and an enjoyable evening going thru his new acquisitions - the one that caused the most confusion was the Korra Korrabes specimen - an H3. Well, we looked at it, compared it to other H3s, also to the Ghubara, and we found it difficult to see how this is an H3. We are obviously missing a critical issue here, because the chondrules were scant, and indistinct, in fact my Ghub, at an L6 had more structure visible. It was a very dark matrix too, whereas a lot of H3s have a light matrix (ie Parnallee) How and why is KK an H3 - the native iron was sparse, and the chondrules largely invisible. So, how come it's an H3? inquisitively, Dave IMCA #0092 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Korra Korrabes
Hi Rafael and list, Korra Korrabes was found by Gibeon hunters in the southern reaches of the Gibeon strewnfield (remember, that's a very large strewnfield!). They picked it up because it set off the metal detectors but was figured by them to just be iron shale from a Gibeon. Eventually it was recognized to be a stony meteorite and the largest fragment (28 kg) was then recovered from a garden wall where it had been assigned a less than befitting resting place. Some of the early slices to reach the market had been sawn in heavy oil and overpolished to the point of hardly any structure being visible. Also some of the early material released was more highly weathered with a lot of the metal oxidized out. This may explain your bubbles. The material I have is quite solid and I have sawn slabs as thin as 1.5 to 2 mm for a nice display of structure for the weight. The thin sections I have are very nice under the scope - I even sold one to a microscope vendor who is using it to demo his petro scope. The latest news from the area is that another find has been located 10-15 km away from the first. This one is under study now but is much less weathered with crust and has equally nice structure and very interesting brecciation. Chauncey __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Korra Korrabes
It's not in the same place in Namibia, it came from further South I believe. Haven't been there for a while. My piece looks like the crust has dried and cracked. Almost like mud dries on the outside. I haven't sliced it though. But this is the only one I have seen like this. Ryan __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Korra Korrabes
Hello List, Im writing cuz I was looking at my collection the othe day, and I have a slice of Korra Korrabes, from Africa and I dont knoiw why but I like it a lot, I can see its an H3, but I cant see that much chondrules, and it has a lot of holes or bubbles...does anyone know what are those holes in the meteorite...also does anyone have more information about that meteoritee?, I think it is found in the same part as the Gibeon iron meteorie, in Namibia... any information would be appreciatted Thanks a lot list _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
