subject:"\[meteorite\-list\] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images\: ET\? \- NOT\!\!"

Mike, good idea!  But this posting is not about the book.  It is about the Mars 
structures.  They are real!  But no one, even here with inteligent higher then 
most places seems to care.  No one even made mention of the pictures.  They can 
only dwell on the book.  Are they scared to face the fact that there are 
buildings on Mars?  Or is every one blind to it?  Reminds me of the three 
monkeys.  One had his eyes covered, one his mouth, and one his ears.  Like in 
the movie The Planet of the Apes.  



- Original Message 
 From: Michael Fowler mqfow...@mac.com
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Cc: Michael Fowler mqfow...@mac.com
 Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 11:26:28 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?
 
  I forgot to mentionSomeone thought that 19 bucks was too high for a 
 fiction book.  They sell for 25 bucks on average.  And we all know 
 what meteorite books run!  I bought a book last year that ran me 100 
 bucks!  So I think 19 is not too bad for a book! 

 From: James 
 Balister balisterjames at  href=http://att.net;att.net


James,

$19 may seem 
 reasonable to you, but your sales figures speak volumes.  Apparently no one 
 wants to gamble $19 on an unknown author who can't spell.

Maybe you 
 should lower the price to stimulate demand.  If you lower it enough, maybe 
 people will take a chance.  Wouldn't you rather have 5,000 sales at $2.00 a 
 copy instead of none at $19 bucks a copy?

Sincerely,

Mike 
 Fowler
Chicago
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[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

2010-05-22 Thread JoshuaTreeMuseum

Buildings on Mars??!!??  Shades of Dr. Edgar Mitchell!  James, you're sort 
of inviting abuse when you come on the metlist with such wacko ideas.  I'm 
suprised at the restraint shown by all the well mannered listoids! Also your 
credibility would be vastly improved if you invested in a dictionary, or 
used any of the several available online.  How would NASA believe this 
nuttiness, when they don't even believe in  the evidence for magneto 
bacterial micro fossils supposedly found in Martian meteorites?


Even though I find such delusional thinking highly entertaining,  (I love 
the blood vessels in meteorites guy!), surely you can't be serious?



Phil Whitmer 


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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

On Sat, 22 May 2010 10:57:14 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:

No one even made mention of the pictures.  

Actually, people did.  In my first mention of the book, I called your analysis
of the pictures profoundly insane nutbaggery.  Then Elizabeth Warner pointed
out this: http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2010-May/065030.html

I then pointed out what she was discribing-- and you are the victim of-- is
called pareidolia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia

People are discussing your photos-- it is just that whatever world you live in
is so far seperated from the real world in every possible way (from the cosmic
like structures on Mars to the practical like what people pay for books)  that
you fail to see it.

Are they scared to face the fact that there are buildings on Mars?  

No, most of them are of the type that, when they see obvious insanity, they
quietly back away.  I, on the other hand, have the character flaw that when I
see obvious insanity, I like to poke it with a stick and see what happens. 

It isn't all bad, though-- I was inspired to give your book some free publicity
on a reading forum that I follow!  See:

http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84297
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

2010-05-22 Thread cdtucson

James,
I don't know how much time your attending physician allows you Internet access 
but, it's a good thing you are not wasting it on *silly* web sites.
Perhaps you should try it with a bit less medication though. Like my Mother 
would say.God love him. And maybe you should stick to meteorites.
Sorry,
Carl
--
Carl or Debbie Esparza
Meteoritemax


 James Balister balisterja...@att.net wrote: 
 Mike, good idea!  But this posting is not about the book.  It is about the 
 Mars structures.  They are real!  But no one, even here with inteligent 
 higher then most places seems to care.  No one even made mention of the 
 pictures.  They can only dwell on the book.  Are they scared to face the fact 
 that there are buildings on Mars?  Or is every one blind to it?  Reminds me 
 of the three monkeys.  One had his eyes covered, one his mouth, and one his 
 ears.  Like in the movie The Planet of the Apes.  
 
 
 
 - Original Message 
  From: Michael Fowler mqfow...@mac.com
  To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Cc: Michael Fowler mqfow...@mac.com
  Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 11:26:28 AM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?
  
   I forgot to mentionSomeone thought that 19 bucks was too high for a 
  fiction book.  They sell for 25 bucks on average.  And we all know 
  what meteorite books run!  I bought a book last year that ran me 100 
  bucks!  So I think 19 is not too bad for a book! 
 
  From: James 
  Balister balisterjames at  href=http://att.net;att.net
 
 
 James,
 
 $19 may seem 
  reasonable to you, but your sales figures speak volumes.  Apparently no one 
  wants to gamble $19 on an unknown author who can't spell.
 
 Maybe you 
  should lower the price to stimulate demand.  If you lower it enough, maybe 
  people will take a chance.  Wouldn't you rather have 5,000 sales at $2.00 a 
  copy instead of none at $19 bucks a copy?
 
 Sincerely,
 
 Mike 
  Fowler
 Chicago
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

Son, when your IQ approaches mine, then we will argue. 

- Original Message 
 From: JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 1:24:19 PM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

 Buildings on Mars??!!??  Shades of Dr. Edgar Mitchell!  James, you're 
 sort of inviting abuse when you come on the metlist with such wacko ideas.  
 I'm suprised at the restraint shown by all the well mannered listoids! Also 
 your 
 credibility would be vastly improved if you invested in a dictionary, or used 
 any of the several available online.  How would NASA believe this 
 nuttiness, when they don't even believe in  the evidence for magneto 
 bacterial micro fossils supposedly found in Martian meteorites?

Even 
 though I find such delusional thinking highly entertaining,  (I love the 
 blood vessels in meteorites guy!), surely you can't be serious?

Phil 
 Whitmer 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

Bout the same as mine Steve!

- Original Message 
 From: Steve Witt stelo...@yahoo.com
 To: James Balister balisterja...@att.net
 Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 1:33:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

 James,

Mine is 165, is that close enough? Let's have at 
 it.

Steve

Steve Witt
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 #9020
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--- On Sat, 5/22/10, James Balister  ymailto=mailto:balisterja...@att.net; 
 href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net 
 wrote:

 From: James Balister  ymailto=mailto:balisterja...@att.net; 
 href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net

 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?
 To:  ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

 Date: Saturday, May 22, 2010, 1:29 PM
 Son, when your IQ approaches 
 mine,
 then we will argue. 

 - 
 Original Message 
  From: JoshuaTreeMuseum  ymailto=mailto:joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com; 
 href=mailto:joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com;joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com

  To:  
  href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

  Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 1:24:19 PM
  Subject: [meteorite-list] 
 Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images:
 ET?

  Buildings on 
 Mars??!!??  Shades of Dr. Edgar
 Mitchell!  James, you're 

 sort of inviting abuse when you come on the metlist
 with such wacko 
 ideas.  
  I'm suprised at the restraint shown by all the 
 well
 mannered listoids! Also your 
  credibility would be 
 vastly improved if you invested
 in a dictionary, or used 

 any of the several available online.  How would NASA
 believe this 

  nuttiness, when they don't even believe in  the
 evidence 
 for magneto 
  bacterial micro fossils supposedly found in 
 Martian
 meteorites?

 Even 
  though I find 
 such delusional thinking highly
 entertaining,  (I love the 

 blood vessels in meteorites guy!), surely you can't be
 serious?

 Phil 
  Whitmer 

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[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

2010-05-22 Thread JoshuaTreeMuseum


Son, when your IQ approaches mine, then we will argue.

.


Pops, When dealing with a text book case of full blown delusional syndrome, 
I would think that IQ is irrelevant.  You claim to have an IQ of 165, yet 
you spell like a 6th grader and lack a knowledge of basic grammar? 
Something doesn't add up here.


Like Darren, I just can't let sleeping dogs lie.  I had a lot of fun with 
that guy selling the phony lunars.  He was a laugh a minute.


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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

There is no doubt that you and a few others here are, and I am sure that you 
will have to look it up, AGENTPROVOCATEUR'S!

- Original Message 
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 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 1:45:36 PM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

 Son, when your IQ approaches mine, then we will 
 argue.

.

Pops, When dealing with a 
 text book case of full blown delusional syndrome, I would think that IQ is 
 irrelevant.  You claim to have an IQ of 165, yet you spell like a 6th 
 grader and lack a knowledge of basic grammar? Something doesn't add up 
 here.

Like Darren, I just can't let sleeping dogs lie.  I had a lot 
 of fun with that guy selling the phony lunars.  He was a laugh a 
 minute.

Phil Whitmer 

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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

2010-05-22 Thread Meteorites USA

Hey Phil, not poking fun or being argumentative at all, but spelling 
honestly has zero to do with IQ... I'm certainly not supporting this 
idiotic hijacked thread either... I just wanted to clear up that 
grammer/spelling has nothing to do with IQ, logic, reasoning, and 
comprehension account for a most of an IQ score...


I apologize list for being so off topic!

Regards,
Eric



On 5/22/2010 11:45 AM, JoshuaTreeMuseum wrote:
You claim to have an IQ of 165, yet you spell like a 6th grader and 
lack a knowledge of basic grammar?

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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

2010-05-22 Thread countdeiro

Steve, James and Listees,

Steve and James mentioned intelligence. Very important. Interpreting Mars 
source data that might promote a vita hypothesis requires intelligence. 

Curious. With all the academics we have on List, how many are Mensans? The only 
criteria for membership is to have a demonstrated IQ in the top two percentile. 
If 100 adults took a Stanford-Binet, or Cattell, or the proctored Mensa 
Weschler exam...the prospective Mensan would score first, or second. An IQ of 
144 places one in the genius range. Only .013% of the world's population scores 
above 144.

Having a very high IQ does not guarantee you'll be smart about everything, or 
get rich, or make lasting relationships. In fact, it can be a real detriment to 
accomplishing anything. One of the pleasant things about having a genius level 
IQ is that people very seldom have to explain to you what their talking about.  
 

Count Deiro
IMCA 3536  

-Original Message-
From: James Balister balisterja...@att.net
Sent: May 22, 2010 2:34 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

Bout the same as mine Steve!



- Original Message 
 From: Steve Witt stelo...@yahoo.com
 To: James Balister balisterja...@att.net
 Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 1:33:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?
 
 James,

Mine is 165, is that close enough? Let's have at 
 it.

Steve


Steve Witt
IMCA 
 #9020
http://imca.cc/


--- On Sat, 5/22/10, James Balister  ymailto=mailto:balisterja...@att.net; 
 href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net 
 wrote:

 From: James Balister  ymailto=mailto:balisterja...@att.net; 
 href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net
 
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?
 To:  ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  
  
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 
 Date: Saturday, May 22, 2010, 1:29 PM
 Son, when your IQ approaches 
 mine,
 then we will argue. 
 
 
 
 - 
 Original Message 
  From: JoshuaTreeMuseum  ymailto=mailto:joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com; 
 href=mailto:joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com;joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com
 
  To:  
  href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 
  Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 1:24:19 PM
  Subject: [meteorite-list] 
 Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images:
 ET?
  
  Buildings on 
 Mars??!!??  Shades of Dr. Edgar
 Mitchell!  James, you're 
  
 sort of inviting abuse when you come on the metlist
 with such wacko 
 ideas.  
  I'm suprised at the restraint shown by all the 
 well
 mannered listoids! Also your 
  credibility would be 
 vastly improved if you invested
 in a dictionary, or used 
  
 any of the several available online.  How would NASA
 believe this 
 
  nuttiness, when they don't even believe in  the
 evidence 
 for magneto 
  bacterial micro fossils supposedly found in 
 Martian
 meteorites?
 
 Even 
  though I find 
 such delusional thinking highly
 entertaining,  (I love the 
  
 blood vessels in meteorites guy!), surely you can't be
 serious?
 
 
 
 Phil 
  Whitmer 
 
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[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

2010-05-22 Thread JoshuaTreeMuseum

Anybody remember the smiley faces found on the moon?  I wonder what the 
Lunarians are trying to tell us?  (^_^)



http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z126/tboswell/May2010c/smile.gif


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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

2010-05-22 Thread Dennis Miller

And Folks, You really don't want to mess with Phil  He is one of
the most eloquent bloggers you will ever witness!  Go get 'um Phil..
Dennis Miller

 From: joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 14:45:36 -0400
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

 Son, when your IQ approaches mine, then we will argue.

 .

 Pops, When dealing with a text book case of full blown delusional syndrome,
 I would think that IQ is irrelevant. You claim to have an IQ of 165, yet
 you spell like a 6th grader and lack a knowledge of basic grammar?
 Something doesn't add up here.

 Like Darren, I just can't let sleeping dogs lie. I had a lot of fun with
 that guy selling the phony lunars. He was a laugh a minute.

 Phil Whitmer

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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

On Sat, 22 May 2010 11:56:03 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:

There is no doubt that you and a few others here are, and I am sure that you 
will have to look it up, AGENTPROVOCATEUR'S!

Wow, thanks for the tip!

http://www.agentprovocateur.com/

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I agree Count!  I looked into Mensa about 40 years ago and the and their only 
interest was a better chess game!

- Original Message 
 From: countde...@earthlink.net countde...@earthlink.net
 To: James Balister balisterja...@att.net; 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 2:23:04 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

 Steve, James and Listees,

Steve and James mentioned intelligence. Very 
 important. Interpreting Mars source data that might promote a vita 
 hypothesis 
 requires intelligence. 

Curious. With all the academics we have on List, 
 how many are Mensans? The only criteria for membership is to have a 
 demonstrated 
 IQ in the top two percentile. If 100 adults took a Stanford-Binet, or 
 Cattell, 
 or the proctored Mensa Weschler exam...the prospective Mensan would score 
 first, 
 or second. An IQ of 144 places one in the genius range. Only .013% of the 
 world's population scores above 144.

Having a very high IQ does not 
 guarantee you'll be smart about everything, or get rich, or make lasting 
 relationships. In fact, it can be a real detriment to accomplishing anything. 
 One of the pleasant things about having a genius level IQ is that people very 
 seldom have to explain to you what their talking about.  

Count 
 Deiro
IMCA 3536  

-Original Message-
From: James 
 Balister  href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net
Sent: 
 May 22, 2010 2:34 PM
To:  ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: 
 Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

Bout the 
 same as mine Steve!

- Original Message 

 From: Steve Witt  href=mailto:stelo...@yahoo.com;stelo...@yahoo.com
 To: 
 James Balister  href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net

 Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 1:33:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 
 Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

 James,

Mine is 165, is that close enough? Let's have at 

 it.

Steve

Steve 
 Witt
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 ymailto=mailto:balisterja...@att.net; 
 href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net 

 wrote:

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 Date: Saturday, May 22, 2010, 1:29 PM
 Son, when your IQ 
 approaches 
 mine,
 then we will argue. 

 - 
 Original Message 

  From: JoshuaTreeMuseum  ymailto=mailto: 
  ymailto=mailto:joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com; 
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  Subject: 
 [meteorite-list] 
 Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images:

 ET?

  Buildings on 
 Mars??!!??  
 Shades of Dr. Edgar
 Mitchell!  James, you're 

 sort of inviting abuse when you come on the metlist

 with such wacko 
 ideas.  
  I'm suprised at the 
 restraint shown by all the 
 well
 mannered listoids! Also 
 your 
  credibility would be 
 vastly improved if you 
 invested
 in a dictionary, or used 

 any

Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

Darren, a little wrong, but wow is right!  How did we get ever so far from 
meteorites?

- Original Message 
 From: Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 3:38:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?
 
 On Sat, 22 May 2010 11:56:03 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:

There is no 
 doubt that you and a few others here are, and I am sure that you will have to 
 look it up, AGENTPROVOCATEUR'S!

Wow, thanks for the 
 tip!

http://www.agentprovocateur.com/

(Bookmarking 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!

2010-05-22 Thread Elizabeth Warner

Because you are using low res images from the Viking Mission!! Have you 
gone back and looked at the Mars images taken by the myriad new/current 
missions that have much higher resolution??


And I did look at the pictures but saw nothing, absolutely nothing of 
what you described.


Again, it is extremely easy to misinterpret shadows, particularly when 
you are zooming in on a low res, grainy image. The human mind likes 
patterns and will find patterns. And no matter how well you train your 
mind, you will be susceptible to optical illusions.

http://www.moillusions.com/  (the last video on the page, Wow!)
http://www.michaelbach.de/ot/

For example, you interpret deep shadows as being entryways, etc. But, 
those Viking pics didn't exactly have the greatest dynamic range. 
They're just shadows from boulders.


Look, it would be uber cool to see  incontrovertible proof, but the 
examples you provide don't even come close. If you are going to insist 
that there are buildings on Mars, you should at least catch up on the 
times and use the most recent images!


Clear Skies!
Elizabeth

James Balister wrote:
Mike, good idea!  But this posting is not about the book.  It is about the Mars structures.  They are real!  But no one, even here with inteligent higher then most places seems to care.  No one even made mention of the pictures.  They can only dwell on the book.  Are they scared to face the fact that there are buildings on Mars?  Or is every one blind to it?  Reminds me of the three monkeys.  One had his eyes covered, one his mouth, and one his ears.  Like in the movie The Planet of the Apes.  




- Original Message 

From: Michael Fowler mqfow...@mac.com
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc: Michael Fowler mqfow...@mac.com
Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 11:26:28 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

I forgot to mentionSomeone thought that 19 bucks was too high for a 
fiction book.  They sell for 25 bucks on average.  And we all know 
what meteorite books run!  I bought a book last year that ran me 100 
bucks!  So I think 19 is not too bad for a book! 


From: James 
Balister balisterjames at  href=http://att.net;att.net



James,

$19 may seem 
reasonable to you, but your sales figures speak volumes.  Apparently no one 
wants to gamble $19 on an unknown author who can't spell.


Maybe you 
should lower the price to stimulate demand.  If you lower it enough, maybe 
people will take a chance.  Wouldn't you rather have 5,000 sales at $2.00 a 
copy instead of none at $19 bucks a copy?


Sincerely,

Mike 

Fowler

Chicago
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

2010-05-22 Thread GeoZay

Son, when your IQ approaches mine, then  we will argue

I just hope its not a negative number.  :O)
geozay  

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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!

Remember that research was 10 years ago!  But yes I have also used the new 
higher res pics.  I found about 100 on that.  Also remember what I said, that 
some will be able to see them and some will not!  But none the less they are 
there!   There are pictures composed of dots etc ( I forgot the name for it)  
That work the same way.  You look at it and see nothing then suddenly a bird 
pops into view!  The trick there is to put the pic close to your nose then back 
off.  Why don't you try that with my pics?  Step back and you might see them!  
And since they are up close already that might be the best approach.  


- Original Message 
 From: Elizabeth Warner ewar...@umd.edu
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 3:14:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!
 
 Because you are using low res images from the Viking Mission!! Have you gone 
 back and looked at the Mars images taken by the myriad new/current missions 
 that 
 have much higher resolution??

And I did look at the pictures but saw 
 nothing, absolutely nothing of what you described.

Again, it is extremely 
 easy to misinterpret shadows, particularly when you are zooming in on a low 
 res, 
 grainy image. The human mind likes patterns and will find patterns. And no 
 matter how well you train your mind, you will be susceptible to optical 
 illusions.
http://www.moillusions.com/  (the last video on the page, 
 Wow!)
http://www.michaelbach.de/ot/

For example, you interpret deep 
 shadows as being entryways, etc. But, those Viking pics didn't exactly have 
 the 
 greatest dynamic range. They're just shadows from boulders.

Look, it 
 would be uber cool to see  incontrovertible proof, but the examples you 
 provide don't even come close. If you are going to insist that there are 
 buildings on Mars, you should at least catch up on the times and use the most 
 recent images!

Clear Skies!
Elizabeth

James Balister 
 wrote:
 Mike, good idea!  But this posting is not about the 
 book.  It is about the Mars structures.  They are real!  But no 
 one, even here with inteligent higher then most places seems to care.  No 
 one even made mention of the pictures.  They can only dwell on the 
 book.  Are they scared to face the fact that there are buildings on 
 Mars?  Or is every one blind to it?  Reminds me of the three 
 monkeys.  One had his eyes covered, one his mouth, and one his ears.  
 Like in the movie The Planet of the Apes.  
 
 
 - 
 Original Message 
 From: Michael Fowler  ymailto=mailto:mqfow...@mac.com; 
 href=mailto:mqfow...@mac.com;mqfow...@mac.com
 To:  ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 
 Cc: Michael Fowler  href=mailto:mqfow...@mac.com;mqfow...@mac.com
 Sent: Sat, 
 May 22, 2010 11:26:28 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey 
 THEMIS Images: ET?
 
 I forgot to mentionSomeone 
 thought that 19 bucks was too high for a 
 fiction book.  They 
 sell for 25 bucks on average.  And we all know what meteorite books 
 run!  I bought a book last year that ran me 100 bucks!  So I think 19 
 is not too bad for a book! 
 
 From: James Balister 
 balisterjames at  href=http://att.net; href=http://att.net;att.net
 
 
 James,
 
 
 $19 may seem 
 reasonable to you, but your sales figures 
 speak volumes.  Apparently no one wants to gamble $19 on an unknown author 
 who can't spell.
 
 Maybe you 
 should lower the price 
 to stimulate demand.  If you lower it enough, maybe people will take a 
 chance.  Wouldn't you rather have 5,000 sales at $2.00 a copy instead of 
 none at $19 bucks a copy?
 
 Sincerely,
 
 Mike 
 
 Fowler
 Chicago
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!

2010-05-22 Thread Notkin


James Balister wrote:


You look at it and see nothing then suddenly a bird pops into view!



Exactly!

http://4umi.com/escher/Another_world.jpg

: )



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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!

2010-05-22 Thread Martin Altmann

Yes, it works!!!

I clearly see a bird!

http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumb_0/10881448422Eq7CX.jpg

Amazing, isn't it?

Martin


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James Balister wrote:

 You look at it and see nothing then suddenly a bird pops into view!


Exactly!

http://4umi.com/escher/Another_world.jpg

: )



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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!

2010-05-22 Thread GeoZay

Yes, it works!!!

I clearly see a  bird!

http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumb_0/10881448422Eq7CX.jpg

Amazing,  isn't it?

Martin

Now isn't that just ducky? 
GeoZay  

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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!

2010-05-22 Thread Notkin


 Martin Altmann wrote:


http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumb_0/10881448422Eq7CX.jpg



Aaah, the rubber duck from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy!  
Definitely another one of my favorite space birds  : )




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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!

2010-05-22 Thread Matthias Bärmann


No, sorry Martin, that's never ever a bird. It's obviously an optical
illusion, caused by special Martian stone formations in special light.

Best regards,

Matthias


- Original Message - 
From: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de

To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 12:29 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!


Yes, it works!!!

I clearly see a bird!

http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumb_0/10881448422Eq7CX.jpg

Amazing, isn't it?

Martin


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Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!

James Balister wrote:


You look at it and see nothing then suddenly a bird pops into view!



Exactly!

http://4umi.com/escher/Another_world.jpg

: )



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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!

2010-05-22 Thread Starsinthedirt

Seeing things is NOT science!   You  must fight the temptation.  The wind 
blown surface of Mars is likely to  have many odd looking things.

In my micrographs I often see some weird  looking things.  Last night I saw 
a Scotty Dog.

Many other people  see things in my images (such as the blood vessels in 
Mars rocks guy).  So  many that I put this disclaimer on my micrograph 
gallery. These people are an  embarrassment that no scientist or scientific 
minded 
person wants to be  associated with.

My gallery can be found at   
http://www.meteorite.com/meteorite-gallery/meteorites-alpha_frame.htm



Welcome  to the Tom Phillips Meteorite Micrograph Gallery!

This gallery contains  microscopic images of meteorites.

While it is tempting to read into what  you might think you see, I have 
never found any evidence of past life or any  thing supernatural. I have read 
claims by people using my images to support  their ideas, theories and 
dogmas. The claims of muscle fibers and other  animal/people parts are the 
easiest 
to disprove as the size scale is off. Many  meteorites have various forms 
of barred chondrules which may be large or quite  small, almost fiber 
looking. These are not biological in nature. I can and have  found strikingly 
similar looking structures in fresh volcanic rock.

The  claims involving faith and much harder to address. All I can say is I 
have noted  no messages or hidden symbolism in any of my images. 

My images combine  some science and some art. I am concentrating on the 
visually pleasing. What  that means is I am often working with magnifications 
much higher than what is  typically useful in optical meteorite 
classification examinations and as such,  my images look Different than what 
many are 
accustomed to. This puts me in the  position of being sensitive to outrageous 
claims involving my images. I am  careful to say only what is accurate and 
I generally avoid analysis. I give the  meteorite name, type of material, 
magnification or field of view and the  microscope technique.

If you see any thing more than meteorite structures  in any of these 
images, have fun! But remember, this is no more scientific or  spiritual than 
seeing dogs in clouds.

Tom Phillips

In a message  dated 5/22/2010 3:44:30 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, 
balisterja...@att.net  writes:
Remember that research was 10 years ago!  But yes I have also  used the new 
higher res pics.  I found about 100 on that.  Also  remember what I said, 
that some will be able to see them and some will  not!  But none the less 
they are there!   There are pictures  composed of dots etc ( I forgot the name 
for it)  That work the same  way.  You look at it and see nothing then 
suddenly a bird pops into  view!  The trick there is to put the pic close to 
your 
nose then back  off.  Why don't you try that with my pics?  Step back and 
you might  see them!  And since they are up close already that might be the 
best  approach.  


- Original Message 
 From: Elizabeth  Warner ewar...@umd.edu
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com  
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010  3:14:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?  - NOT!!
 
 Because you are using low res images from the Viking  Mission!! Have you 
gone 
 back and looked at the Mars images taken by the  myriad new/current 
missions that 
 have much higher  resolution??

And I did look at the pictures but saw 
 nothing,  absolutely nothing of what you described.

Again, it is extremely 
  easy to misinterpret shadows, particularly when you are zooming in on a 
low res,  
 grainy image. The human mind likes patterns and will find patterns. And  
no 
 matter how well you train your mind, you will be susceptible to  optical 
 illusions.
http://www.moillusions.com/  (the last video  on the page, 
 Wow!)
http://www.michaelbach.de/ot/

For example,  you interpret deep 
 shadows as being entryways, etc. But, those Viking  pics didn't exactly 
have the 
 greatest dynamic range. They're just  shadows from boulders.

Look, it 
 would be uber cool to see   incontrovertible proof, but the examples you 
 provide don't even come  close. If you are going to insist that there are 
 buildings on Mars, you  should at least catch up on the times and use the 
most 
 recent  images!

Clear Skies!
Elizabeth

James Balister 
  wrote:
 Mike, good idea!  But this posting is not about the 
  book.  It is about the Mars structures.  They are real!  But no  
 one, even here with inteligent higher then most places seems to  care.  
No 
 one even made mention of the pictures.  They can  only dwell on the 
 book.  Are they scared to face the fact that  there are buildings on 
 Mars?  Or is every one blind to it?   Reminds me of the three 
 monkeys.  One had his eyes covered, one  his mouth, and one his ears.  
 Like in the movie The Planet of the  Apes.  
 
 
 - 
 Original Message  
 From: Michael Fowler  ymailto=mailto:mqfow

Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!

I was not going to post this but you asked for it.  You have to be trained!

http://www.123opticalillusions.com/



- Original Message 
 From: Matthias Bärmann majbaerm...@web.de
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 5:47:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!
 
 No, sorry Martin, that's never ever a bird. It's obviously an 
 optical
illusion, caused by special Martian stone formations in special 
 light.

Best regards,

Matthias


- Original Message 
 - From: Martin Altmann  
 href=mailto:altm...@meteorite-martin.de;altm...@meteorite-martin.de
To: 
  
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Sent: 
 Sunday, May 23, 2010 12:29 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey 
 THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!


Yes, it works!!!

I clearly see a 
 bird!

http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumb_0/10881448422Eq7CX.jpg

Amazing, 
 isn't it?

Martin


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James Balister wrote:

 You look at it and see nothing 
 then suddenly a bird pops into 
 view!


Exactly!

http://4umi.com/escher/Another_world.jpg

: 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!

2010-05-22 Thread Warren Sansoucie


So What I gather is that you want us to stare at the lo-res pictures that are 
almost as old as I am ( I pre-date Atari) and look and look until I can see a 
naked indian sweeping his front porch???
 
Ok... so say I do see this... how does that make it really there??
 
Why can't someone show me a picture that is clear. why do I have to eat funny 
mushrooms and focus until I see something.
 
 
Why are ALL U.F.O. pictures crap??? Uncle Ned at the wedding is crystal clear, 
but the next photo taken is so blury and shaky that you wonder if its a U.F.O. 
or a smashed tea kettle.
 
Show me da money. I don't have to be trained to see my house. I don't have to 
be trained to see the red spot on Jupiter. Why do I have to be trained to see 
low rent real estate in Mars  photos that were taken when C.H.i P.S. was on the 
air?
 
Warren
 
 

 Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 15:56:58 -0700
 From: balisterja...@att.net
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!
 
 I was not going to post this but you asked for it.  You have to be trained!
 
 http://www.123opticalillusions.com/
 
 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: Matthias Bärmann majbaerm...@web.de
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 5:47:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!
 
 No, sorry Martin, that's never ever a bird. It's obviously an 
 optical
 illusion, caused by special Martian stone formations in special 
 light.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Matthias
 
 
 - Original Message 
 - From: Martin Altmann  
 href=mailto:altm...@meteorite-martin.de;altm...@meteorite-martin.de
 To: 
  
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: 
 Sunday, May 23, 2010 12:29 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey 
 THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!
 
 
 Yes, it works!!!
 
 I clearly see a 
 bird!
 
 http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumb_0/10881448422Eq7CX.jpg
 
 Amazing, 
 isn't it?
 
 Martin
 
 
 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com; 
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 Im Auftrag von Notkin
 Gesendet: Samstag, 22. Mai 2010 23:58
 An: Meteorite 
 List
 Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - 
 NOT!!
 
 James Balister wrote:
 
 You look at it and see nothing 
 then suddenly a bird pops into 
 view!
 
 
 Exactly!
 
 http://4umi.com/escher/Another_world.jpg
 
 : 
 )
 
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!

Warren the answer might be the way our brains are trained to see things.  We 
are blind to some things.  Ever check traffic and see nothing?  But just before 
you pull out from a stop sign a car races by?  And you never saw it comming!  
We all see what we want to see!  Perhaps it is just out DNA.  As soo as I can 
dig up my original research project, I have so many that I am not sure where it 
is, I will post a photo direct from NASA/JPL's site PDS map a planet, the new 
one.  It is high res.  Maybe that will help.  Then you can see where all the 
good meteorites come from!



- Original Message 
 From: Warren Sansoucie warren3...@hotmail.com
 To: METEORITE LIST meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 9:57:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!
 
 
So What I gather is that you want us to stare at the lo-res pictures that 
 are almost as old as I am ( I pre-date Atari) and look and look until I can 
 see 
 a naked indian sweeping his front porch???

Ok... so say I do see this... 
 how does that make it really there??

Why can't someone show me a picture 
 that is clear. why do I have to eat funny mushrooms and focus until I see 
 something.


Why are ALL U.F.O. pictures crap??? Uncle Ned at the 
 wedding is crystal clear, but the next photo taken is so blury and shaky that 
 you wonder if its a U.F.O. or a smashed tea kettle.

Show me da money. I 
 don't have to be trained to see my house. I don't have to be trained to see 
 the 
 red spot on Jupiter. Why do I have to be trained to see low rent real estate 
 in 
 Mars  photos that were taken when C.H.i P.S. was on the air?

 
Warren



 Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 15:56:58 -0700
 
 From:  href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net
 To:  ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!
 
 
 I was not going to post this but you asked for it.  You have to be 
 trained!
 
 http://www.123opticalillusions.com/
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: Matthias Bärmann 
  href=mailto:majbaerm...@web.de;majbaerm...@web.de
 To:  ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 
 Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 5:47:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 
 Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!
 
 No, sorry 
 Martin, that's never ever a bird. It's obviously an 
 optical
 
 illusion, caused by special Martian stone formations in special 
 
 light.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Matthias
 
 
 
 - Original Message 
 - From: Martin Altmann 
  href=mailto: 
 href=mailto:altm...@meteorite-martin.de;altm...@meteorite-martin.de 
 ymailto=mailto:altm...@meteorite-martin.de; 
 href=mailto:altm...@meteorite-martin.de;altm...@meteorite-martin.de
 
 To: 
  href=mailto: ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 
 Sent: 
 Sunday, May 23, 2010 12:29 AM
 Subject: Re: 
 [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey 
 THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!
 
 
 
 Yes, it works!!!
 
 I clearly see a 
 
 bird!
 
 
 http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumb_0/10881448422Eq7CX.jpg
 
 
 Amazing, 
 isn't it?
 
 Martin
 
 
 
 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: ymailto=mailto: 
 ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com; 
 href=mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
  
 
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 Im Auftrag von Notkin
 Gesendet: Samstag, 22. Mai 2010 
 23:58
 An: Meteorite 
 List
 Betreff: Re: 
 [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - 
 NOT!!
 
 
 James Balister wrote:
 
 You look at it and see 
 nothing 
 then suddenly a bird pops into 
 view!
 
 
 
 Exactly!
 
 
 http://4umi.com/escher/Another_world.jpg
 
 : 
 
 )
 
 
 
 Geoff N.
 
 
 href=http

Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!

2010-05-22 Thread GERALD FLAHERTY

Sure ate up a lot of bandwidth
On May 22, 2010, at 10:57 PM, Warren Sansoucie wrote:

 
 So What I gather is that you want us to stare at the lo-res pictures that are 
 almost as old as I am ( I pre-date Atari) and look and look until I can see a 
 naked indian sweeping his front porch???
 
 Ok... so say I do see this... how does that make it really there??
 
 Why can't someone show me a picture that is clear. why do I have to eat funny 
 mushrooms and focus until I see something.
 
 
 Why are ALL U.F.O. pictures crap??? Uncle Ned at the wedding is crystal 
 clear, but the next photo taken is so blury and shaky that you wonder if its 
 a U.F.O. or a smashed tea kettle.
 
 Show me da money. I don't have to be trained to see my house. I don't have to 
 be trained to see the red spot on Jupiter. Why do I have to be trained to see 
 low rent real estate in Mars  photos that were taken when C.H.i P.S. was on 
 the air?
 
 Warren
 
 
 
 Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 15:56:58 -0700
 From: balisterja...@att.net
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!
 
 I was not going to post this but you asked for it.  You have to be trained!
 
 http://www.123opticalillusions.com/
 
 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: Matthias Bärmann majbaerm...@web.de
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 5:47:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!
 
 No, sorry Martin, that's never ever a bird. It's obviously an 
 optical
 illusion, caused by special Martian stone formations in special 
 light.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Matthias
 
 
 - Original Message 
 - From: Martin Altmann  
 href=mailto:altm...@meteorite-martin.de;altm...@meteorite-martin.de
 To: 
  
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: 
 Sunday, May 23, 2010 12:29 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey 
 THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!
 
 
 Yes, it works!!!
 
 I clearly see a 
 bird!
 
 http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumb_0/10881448422Eq7CX.jpg
 
 Amazing, 
 isn't it?
 
 Martin
 
 
 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com; 
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 Im Auftrag von Notkin
 Gesendet: Samstag, 22. Mai 2010 23:58
 An: Meteorite 
 List
 Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - 
 NOT!!
 
 James Balister wrote:
 
 You look at it and see nothing 
 then suddenly a bird pops into 
 view!
 
 
 Exactly!
 
 http://4umi.com/escher/Another_world.jpg
 
 : 
 )
 
 
 
 Geoff N.
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!

I found it on the new High Res. Pics.  Now this is direct from NASA/JPL.  If 
you cant see this then you never will!  I call this the Gray house, Dog and 
Half Human.   Check it out!

http://www.mapaplanet.org/explorer-bin/explorer.cgi?map=Marslayers=v2mars_viking_bwwest=192.84south=14.32east=190.53north=15.52center_lat=0center=191.69defaultcenter=ongrid=nonestretch=noneprojection=SIMPr=1g=1b=1advoption=NOinfo=NOresolution=256scale=0.46270imageTopX=-136833.5494101048imageTopY=955519.5573866367



- Original Message 
 From: James Balister balisterja...@att.net
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 10:33:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!
 
 Warren the answer might be the way our brains are trained to see things.  We 
 are 
 blind to some things.  Ever check traffic and see nothing?  But just before 
 you 
 pull out from a stop sign a car races by?  And you never saw it comming!  We 
 all 
 see what we want to see!  Perhaps it is just out DNA.  As soo as I can dig up 
 my 
 original research project, I have so many that I am not sure where it is, I 
 will 
 post a photo direct from NASA/JPL's site PDS map a planet, the new one.  It 
 is 
 high res.  Maybe that will help.  Then you can see where all the good 
 meteorites 
 come from!



- Original Message 
 From: Warren 
 Sansoucie  href=mailto:warren3...@hotmail.com;warren3...@hotmail.com
 To: 
 METEORITE LIST  
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 
 Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 9:57:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars 
 Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!
 
 
So What I gather is that 
 you want us to stare at the lo-res pictures that 
 are almost as old as I 
 am ( I pre-date Atari) and look and look until I can see 
 a naked indian 
 sweeping his front porch???

Ok... so say I do see this... 
 how 
 does that make it really there??

Why can't someone show me a picture 
 
 that is clear. why do I have to eat funny mushrooms and focus until I 
 see 
 something.


Why are ALL U.F.O. pictures crap??? Uncle Ned 
 at the 
 wedding is crystal clear, but the next photo taken is so blury 
 and shaky that 
 you wonder if its a U.F.O. or a smashed tea 
 kettle.

Show me da money. I 
 don't have to be trained to see my 
 house. I don't have to be trained to see the 
 red spot on Jupiter. Why 
 do I have to be trained to see low rent real estate in 
 Mars  photos 
 that were taken when C.H.i P.S. was on the air?

 
 
Warren



 Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 15:56:58 -0700
 
 
 From:  href=mailto: 
 href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net 
 ymailto=mailto:balisterja...@att.net; 
 href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net
 To:  
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 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  
 
 href=mailto: 
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 
 
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - 
 NOT!!
 
 
 I was not going to post this but you asked for 
 it.  You have to be 
 trained!
 
 
 http://www.123opticalillusions.com/
 
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: Matthias Bärmann 
  
 href=mailto: href=mailto:majbaerm...@web.de;majbaerm...@web.de 
 ymailto=mailto:majbaerm...@web.de; 
 href=mailto:majbaerm...@web.de;majbaerm...@web.de
 To:  
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 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  
 
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 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 
 
 Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 5:47:46 PM
 Subject: Re: 
 [meteorite-list] 
 Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!
 
 
 No, sorry 
 Martin, that's never ever a bird. It's obviously 
 an 
 optical
 
 illusion, caused by special Martian 
 stone formations in special 
 
 light.
 
 Best 
 regards,
 
 Matthias
 
 
 
 - 
 Original Message 
 - From: Martin Altmann 
  
 href=mailto: href=mailto: 
 href=mailto:altm...@meteorite-martin.de;altm...@meteorite-martin.de 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!

On Sat, 22 May 2010 21:09:24 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:

I found it on the new High Res. Pics.  Now this is direct from NASA/JPL.  If 
you cant see this then you never will!  I call this the Gray house, Dog and 
Half Human.   Check it out!

Wait!  I.. I... oh, God, I see it!  And below it there is a Space Cameo!  And
off to the right, a bust of Cobra Commander!  Now I know!  And knowing is half
the battle!

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/8471/wackyimages.jpg
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!

Wait-- I just realized why that other structure looked so familiar-- it is a
trilobite pygidium!  From a trilobite of such massive proportions that all of
Earth life is as nothing before it!  A leviathan that brought terror to all
living things 'neith the skys of Mars eons before the first worms twitched their
way across the muddy floors of Earth's sea! 

The horror!  The horror!

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/8135/marspygidium.jpg
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!

2010-05-22 Thread cdtucson

Okay James,

Here is a test for you.

Is this a Car or a ufo see what your mind sees.

http://tinypic.com/r/1zfsawn/6

--
Carl or Debbie Esparza
Meteoritemax


 James Balister balisterja...@att.net wrote: 
 Warren the answer might be the way our brains are trained to see things.  We 
 are blind to some things.  Ever check traffic and see nothing?  But just 
 before you pull out from a stop sign a car races by?  And you never saw it 
 comming!  We all see what we want to see!  Perhaps it is just out DNA.  As 
 soo as I can dig up my original research project, I have so many that I am 
 not sure where it is, I will post a photo direct from NASA/JPL's site PDS map 
 a planet, the new one.  It is high res.  Maybe that will help.  Then you can 
 see where all the good meteorites come from!
 
 
 
 - Original Message 
  From: Warren Sansoucie warren3...@hotmail.com
  To: METEORITE LIST meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 9:57:54 PM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!
  
  
 So What I gather is that you want us to stare at the lo-res pictures that 
  are almost as old as I am ( I pre-date Atari) and look and look until I can 
  see 
  a naked indian sweeping his front porch???
 
 Ok... so say I do see this... 
  how does that make it really there??
 
 Why can't someone show me a picture 
  that is clear. why do I have to eat funny mushrooms and focus until I see 
  something.
 
 
 Why are ALL U.F.O. pictures crap??? Uncle Ned at the 
  wedding is crystal clear, but the next photo taken is so blury and shaky 
  that 
  you wonder if its a U.F.O. or a smashed tea kettle.
 
 Show me da money. I 
  don't have to be trained to see my house. I don't have to be trained to see 
  the 
  red spot on Jupiter. Why do I have to be trained to see low rent real 
  estate in 
  Mars  photos that were taken when C.H.i P.S. was on the air?
 
  
 Warren
 
 
 
  Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 15:56:58 -0700
  
  From:  href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net
  To:  ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 
  href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!
  
  
  I was not going to post this but you asked for it.  You have to be 
  trained!
  
  http://www.123opticalillusions.com/
  
  
  
  
  - Original Message 
  From: Matthias Bärmann 
   href=mailto:majbaerm...@web.de;majbaerm...@web.de
  To:  ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 
  href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  
  Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 5:47:46 PM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 
  Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!
  
  No, sorry 
  Martin, that's never ever a bird. It's obviously an 
  optical
  
  illusion, caused by special Martian stone formations in special 
  
  light.
  
  Best regards,
  
  Matthias
  
  
  
  - Original Message 
  - From: Martin Altmann 
   href=mailto: 
  href=mailto:altm...@meteorite-martin.de;altm...@meteorite-martin.de 
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  Sent: 
  Sunday, May 23, 2010 12:29 AM
  Subject: Re: 
  [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey 
  THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!
  
  
  
  Yes, it works!!!
  
  I clearly see a 
  
  bird!
  
  
  http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumb_0/10881448422Eq7CX.jpg
  
  
  Amazing, 
  isn't it?
  
  Martin
  
  
  
  -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
  Von: ymailto=mailto: 
  ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com; 
  href=mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
   
  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

2010-05-21 Thread tracy latimer

I'm fairly sure the line would be 'Extraordinary claims require extraordinary
proof.' Are you asking whether NASA would endorse a claim that an image from
one of their Mars photos is proof of extraterrestrial intelligence? Several
people have pointed to details that they found on NASA photos and said that
they are structures or Stonehenge-like constructs or monuments or other proof
of ET. Each time, when the area can be scrutinized in more detail, the
'pyramids' or whatnot have been shown to be a natural formation, trick of
lighting, or other explanation. No aliens needed. Even the famous 'Face'
falls apart when examined more closely. Humans are pattern-seeking beasties;
it's a survival mechanism, but sometimes it backfires on us.

It would have to be a pretty obvious and verifiable alien artifact to get the
thumbs up from NASA or JPL as such, and so far, nothing even remotely like that
has been discovered.

My 2 shekels.
Best!
Tracy Latimer

Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 11:42:05 -0700
From: balisterja...@att.net
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: May 17-21, 2010

Attn Ron! First I want to say that I have a Big, Big respect for NASA/JPL!
And people like Patty Garsea who does grate work! But you never answered my
question.
How would NASA react if someone found faces on Mars that are like The Face on
Mars? Or other structures using NASA's own pictures? Would they be excited
and accepting? Or just the reverse? Just what would they do? I am sure we
would all like to know the the answer to that and the official stance of
NASA/JPL.

Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

Tracy, I agree with you! All I have seen from other people is just rocks and
shadows. But will NASA say the same of real good pictures that can be verafied
as actually comming from NASA. Or will they finaly admit to the et presence?

- Original Message
From: tracy latimer daist...@hotmail.com
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 1:56:27 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

I'm fairly sure the line would be 'Extraordinary claims require
extraordinary proof.' Are you asking whether NASA would endorse a claim
that an image from one of their Mars photos is proof of extraterrestrial
intelligence? Several people have pointed to details that they found on
NASA photos and said that they are structures or Stonehenge-like constructs
or
monuments or other proof of ET. Each time, when the area can be
scrutinized in more detail, the 'pyramids' or whatnot have been shown to be a
natural formation, trick of lighting, or other explanation. No aliens
needed. Even the famous 'Face' falls apart when examined more
closely. Humans are pattern-seeking beasties; it's a survival mechanism,
but sometimes it backfires on us.

It would have to be a pretty obvious
and verifiable alien artifact to get the thumbs up from NASA or JPL as such,
and
so far, nothing even remotely like that has been discovered.

My 2
shekels.
Best!
Tracy
Latimer

Date: Fri, 21
May 2010 11:42:05 -0700
From: href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net
To: ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;
href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: May 17-21,
2010

Attn Ron! First I want to say that I have a Big, Big
respect for NASA/JPL! And people like Patty Garsea who does grate work! But
you
never answered my question.
How would NASA react if someone found faces
on Mars that are like The Face on Mars? Or other structures using NASA's own
pictures? Would they be excited and accepting? Or just the reverse? Just what
would they do? I am sure we would all like to know the the answer to that and
the official stance of NASA/JPL.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

2010-05-21 Thread Steve Witt


--- On Fri, 5/21/10, James Balister balisterja...@att.net wrote:

 From: James Balister balisterja...@att.net

  Or will they finaly admit
 to the et presence?  


James,

What ET presence are you talking about?

Steve

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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

2010-05-21 Thread Warren Sansoucie

Hello All,

Has anyone bothered to ponder the fact that the very pictures discussed were
PROVIDED by NASA?

Do we think that if NASA were to find E.T.'s they would be foolish enough to
give YOU the photo proof and then deny it all???

Come on folks. Again conspiracy theories are scenarios that are more
difficult to execute and maintain than the truth they attempt to debunk.

Often times a mountain in a poor picture is just a mountain in a poor picture.

NASA can run the math on orbital insertion and actually achieve it take a
look at how hard that is to do and then think twice before you feel they would
be dumb enough to hand out photos of ET and then waste time denying it.

Warren Sansoucie
I.M.C.A. #3174
St. Louis MO

Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 12:02:09 -0700
From: balisterja...@att.net
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

Tracy, I agree with you! All I have seen from other people is just rocks and
shadows. But will NASA say the same of real good pictures that can be
verafied as actually comming from NASA. Or will they finaly admit to the et
presence?

- Original Message
From: tracy latimer daist...@hotmail.com
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 1:56:27 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

I'm fairly sure the line would be 'Extraordinary claims require
extraordinary proof.' Are you asking whether NASA would endorse a claim
that an image from one of their Mars photos is proof of extraterrestrial
intelligence? Several people have pointed to details that they found on
NASA photos and said that they are structures or Stonehenge-like constructs
or
monuments or other proof of ET. Each time, when the area can be
scrutinized in more detail, the 'pyramids' or whatnot have been shown to be
a
natural formation, trick of lighting, or other explanation. No aliens
needed. Even the famous 'Face' falls apart when examined more
closely. Humans are pattern-seeking beasties; it's a survival mechanism,
but sometimes it backfires on us.

It would have to be a pretty obvious
and verifiable alien artifact to get the thumbs up from NASA or JPL as such,
and
so far, nothing even remotely like that has been discovered.

My 2
shekels.
Best!
Tracy
Latimer

Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: May 17-21,
2010

Attn Ron! First I want to say that I have a Big, Big
respect for NASA/JPL! And people like Patty Garsea who does grate work! But
you
never answered my question.
How would NASA react if someone found faces
on Mars that are like The Face on Mars? Or other structures using NASA's own
pictures? Would they be excited and accepting? Or just the reverse? Just
what
would they do? I am sure we would all like to know the the answer to that
and
the official stance of NASA/JPL.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

Waren, then you are saying that if someone did discover a martian house that 
NASA could NOT deny it because all Mars pictures come from NASA?  After all you 
and I did not go there to take the pics.  So they must be NASA's.  And if they 
come from NASA's site, they must be NASA's.  Right?  

- Original Message 
 From: Warren Sansoucie warren3...@hotmail.com
 To: METEORITE LIST meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 3:32:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

Hello All,

Has anyone bothered to ponder the fact that the very 
 pictures discussed were PROVIDED by NASA? 

Do we think that if NASA were 
 to find E.T.'s they would be foolish enough to give YOU the photo proof and 
 then 
 deny it all???

Come on folks. Again conspiracy theories are 
 scenarios that are more difficult to execute and maintain than the truth they 
 attempt to debunk.

Often times a mountain in a poor picture is just 
 a mountain in a poor picture.

NASA can run the math on orbital insertion 
 and actually achieve it take a look at how hard that is to do and then 
 think 
 twice before you feel they would be dumb enough to hand out photos of ET and 
 then waste time denying it.

Warren Sansoucie
I.M.C.A. #3174
St. 
 Louis MO

 Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 12:02:09 -0700
 From:  ymailto=mailto:balisterja...@att.net; 
 href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net
 To:  ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

 Tracy, I agree with you!  All I have seen from other people is just rocks 
 and shadows.  But will NASA say the same of real good pictures that can be 
 verafied as actually comming from NASA.  Or will they finaly admit to the 
 et presence?  

 - Original Message 

 From: tracy latimer  ymailto=mailto:daist...@hotmail.com; 
 href=mailto:daist...@hotmail.com;daist...@hotmail.com
 To: 
  href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

 Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 1:56:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 
 Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

 I'm fairly 
 sure the line would be 'Extraordinary claims require 
 extraordinary 
 proof.'  Are you asking whether NASA would endorse a claim 

 that an image from one of their Mars photos is proof of extraterrestrial 

 intelligence?  Several people have pointed to details that 
 they found on 
 NASA photos and said that they are structures or 
 Stonehenge-like constructs or 
 monuments or other proof of ET.  
 Each time, when the area can be 
 scrutinized in more detail, the 
 'pyramids' or whatnot have been shown to be a 
 natural formation, 
 trick of lighting, or other explanation.  No aliens 

 needed.  Even the famous 'Face' falls apart when examined more 

 closely.  Humans are pattern-seeking beasties; it's a survival mechanism, 

 but sometimes it backfires on us.

 It would have to 
 be a pretty obvious 
 and verifiable alien artifact to get the thumbs 
 up from NASA or JPL as such, and 
 so far, nothing even remotely like 
 that has been discovered.

 My 2 
 shekels.

 Best!
 Tracy 
 Latimer

 Date: Fri, 21 

 May 2010 11:42:05 -0700
 From: href=mailto: ymailto=mailto:balisterja...@att.net; 
 href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net 
 ymailto=mailto:balisterja...@att.net; 
 href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net

 To: ymailto=mailto: 
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

 href=mailto: ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: May 
 17-21, 
 2010

 Attn Ron! First I want to say 
 that I have a Big, Big 
 respect for NASA/JPL! And people like Patty 
 Garsea who does grate work! But you 
 never answered my 
 question.
 How would NASA react if someone found faces 

 on Mars that are like The Face on Mars? Or other structures using NASA's own 

 pictures? Would they be excited and accepting? Or just the reverse? 
 Just what 
 would they do? I am sure we would all like to know the 
 the answer to that and 
 the official stance of 
 NASA/JPL.

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 New 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

No comment!  I want to hear what Ron has to say about pictures first!   I am 
sure that he is asking around.  So lets see what he says.  Then we can get 
started, or not.  

- Original Message 
 From: Warren Sansoucie warren3...@hotmail.com
 To: balisterja...@att.net
 Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 4:41:27 PM
 Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

So they must be NASA's. And if they come from NASA's site, they 
 must be NASA's. Right?

I'm not sure I follow what you are 
 implying. You claiming you have photo's from NASA's website that shows an 
 alien 
 house?

Warren

 Date: 
 Fri, 21 May 2010 14:26:27 -0700
 From:  ymailto=mailto:balisterja...@att.net; 
 href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net
 To:  ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

 Waren, then you are saying that if someone did discover a martian house 
 that
 NASA could NOT deny it because all Mars pictures come from NASA? 
 After all you and I did not go there to take the pics. So they must be 
 NASA's. 
 And if they come from NASA's site, they must be NASA's. 
 Right?

 - Original Message 
 From: 
 Warren Sansoucie 
 To: METEORITE LIST 
 Sent: Fri, May 21, 
 2010 3:32:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS 
 Images: ET?

 Hello All,

 Has 
 anyone bothered to ponder the fact that the very
 pictures discussed 
 were PROVIDED by NASA?

 Do we think that if NASA were

 to find E.T.'s they would be foolish enough to give YOU the photo proof and 
 then
 deny it all???

 Come on folks. Again 
 conspiracy theories are
 scenarios that are more difficult to execute 
 and maintain than the truth they
 attempt to 
 debunk.

 Often times a mountain in a poor picture is 
 just
 a mountain in a poor picture.

 NASA can run the 
 math on orbital insertion
 and actually achieve it take a look at 
 how hard that is to do and then think
 twice before you feel they 
 would be dumb enough to hand out photos of ET and
 then waste time 
 denying it.

 Warren Sansoucie
 I.M.C.A. #3174

 St.
 Louis MO

 Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 
 12:02:09 -0700
 From: ymailto=mailto: ymailto=mailto:balisterja...@att.net; 
 href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net

 href=mailto: href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net 
 ymailto=mailto:balisterja...@att.net; 
 href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net

 To: ymailto=mailto: 
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

 href=mailto: 
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: 
 ET?

 Tracy, I agree with you! All I have seen 
 from other people is just rocks
 and shadows. But will NASA say the 
 same of real good pictures that can be
 verafied as actually comming 
 from NASA. Or will they finaly admit to the
 et 
 presence?

 - Original 
 Message

 From: tracy latimer  
 ymailto=mailto: href=mailto:daist...@hotmail.com;daist...@hotmail.com

 href=mailto: href=mailto:daist...@hotmail.com;daist...@hotmail.com 
 ymailto=mailto:daist...@hotmail.com; 
 href=mailto:daist...@hotmail.com;daist...@hotmail.com

 To:
 href=mailto: ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

 Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 1:56:27 PM
 Subject: Re: 
 [meteorite-list]
 Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: 
 ET?

 I'm fairly
 sure the 
 line would be 'Extraordinary claims require

 extraordinary
 proof.' Are you asking whether NASA would endorse a 
 claim

 that an image from one of their Mars photos is 
 proof of extraterrestrial

 intelligence? Several 
 people have pointed to details that
 they found on

 NASA photos and said that they are structures or
 Stonehenge-like 
 constructs or
 monuments or other proof of ET.
 Each 
 time, when the area can be
 scrutinized in more detail, 
 the
 'pyramids' or whatnot have been shown to be a

 natural formation,
 trick of lighting, or other explanation. No 
 aliens

 needed. Even the famous 'Face' falls apart 
 when examined more

 closely. Humans are 
 pattern-seeking beasties; it's a survival mechanism,

 but sometimes it backfires on us.

 It would have 
 to
 be a pretty obvious
 and verifiable alien artifact 
 to get the thumbs
 up from NASA or JPL as such, and

 so far, nothing even remotely like
 that has been 
 discovered.

 My 2

 shekels.

 Best!
 Tracy

Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

2010-05-21 Thread Richard Kowalski

I don't want to speak for Ron, but I do not think he reads the lists he posts 
to. That's not his job. He posts press releases and in the 13 plus years I've 
been aware of his duties, I can't remember a single time he discussed any of 
them, even when asked.

As someone who's funding comes from NASA, I can tell you nothing would be 
better and more exciting for the agency and especially those working on Mars 
than to find incontrovertible proof that life existed (or better still) still 
exists on Mars. There's no way that would be kept secret. 


--
Richard Kowalski
Full Moon Photography
IMCA #1081


--- On Fri, 5/21/10, James Balister balisterja...@att.net wrote:

 From: James Balister balisterja...@att.net
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Friday, May 21, 2010, 2:48 PM
 No comment!  I want to hear what Ron
 has to say about pictures first!   I am sure that he is
 asking around.  So lets see what he says.  Then we can get
 started, or not.  
 
 
 
 - Original Message 
  From: Warren Sansoucie warren3...@hotmail.com
  To: balisterja...@att.net
  Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 4:41:27 PM
  Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS
 Images: ET?
  
  
 So they must be NASA's. And if they come from
 NASA's site, they 
  must be NASA's. Right?
 
 
 
 I'm not sure I follow what you are 
  implying. You claiming you have photo's from NASA's
 website that shows an alien 
  house?
 
  
 Warren
 
 
 
  Date: 
  Fri, 21 May 2010 14:26:27 -0700
  From:  ymailto=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;
 
  href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net
  To:  ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;
 
  href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS
 Images: ET?
 
  
  Waren, then you are saying that if someone did
 discover a martian house 
  that
  NASA could NOT deny it because all Mars pictures come
 from NASA? 
  After all you and I did not go there to take the pics.
 So they must be NASA's. 
  And if they come from NASA's site, they must be
 NASA's. 
  Right?
 
 
  - Original Message 
  From: 
  Warren Sansoucie 
  To: METEORITE LIST 
  Sent: Fri, May 21, 
  2010 3:32:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS
 
  Images: ET?
 
 
  Hello All,
 
  Has 
  anyone bothered to ponder the fact that the very
  pictures discussed 
  were PROVIDED by NASA?
 
  Do we think that if NASA were
  
  to find E.T.'s they would be foolish enough to give
 YOU the photo proof and 
  then
  deny it all???
 
 
  Come on folks. Again 
  conspiracy theories are
  scenarios that are more difficult to execute 
  and maintain than the truth they
  attempt to 
  debunk.
 
 
  Often times a mountain in a poor picture is 
  just
  a mountain in a poor picture.
 
  NASA can run the 
  math on orbital insertion
  and actually achieve it take a look at 
  how hard that is to do and then think
  twice before you feel they 
  would be dumb enough to hand out photos of ET and
  then waste time 
  denying it.
 
  Warren Sansoucie
  I.M.C.A. #3174
  
  St.
  Louis MO
 
 
  Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 
  12:02:09 -0700
  From: ymailto=mailto: ymailto=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;
 
  href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net
  
  href=mailto: href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net
 ymailto=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;
 
  href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net
  
  To: ymailto=mailto: 
  href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  
  href=mailto: 
  href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;
 
  href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 
  
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS
 Images: 
  ET?
 
 
  Tracy, I agree with you! All I have seen 
  from other people is just rocks
  and shadows. But will NASA say the 
  same of real good pictures that can be
  verafied as actually comming 
  from NASA. Or will they finaly admit to the
  et 
  presence?
 
 
 
  - Original 
  Message
  
  From: tracy latimer  
  ymailto=mailto: href=mailto:daist...@hotmail.com;daist...@hotmail.com
  
  href=mailto: href=mailto:daist...@hotmail.com;daist...@hotmail.com
 ymailto=mailto:daist...@hotmail.com;
 
  href=mailto:daist...@hotmail.com;daist...@hotmail.com
  
  To:
  href=mailto: ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;
 
  href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;
 
  href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 
  
  Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 1:56:27 PM
  Subject: Re: 
  [meteorite-list]
  Mars

Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

2010-05-21 Thread Warren Sansoucie


I really don't wish to get started on anything. You posting my reply that was 
made to you OFFLIST seems to imply that you are just trying to get an off topic 
ramble going again. That's not my intent. It is especially not my intent to 
have it on the METlist as it is off topic. 
 
 
 
Warren Sansoucie
I.M.C.A. #3174
St. Louis MO


 Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 14:48:27 -0700
 From: balisterja...@att.net
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

 No comment! I want to hear what Ron has to say about pictures first! I am 
 sure that he is asking around. So lets see what he says. Then we can get 
 started, or not.



 - Original Message 
 From: Warren Sansoucie 
 To: balisterja...@att.net
 Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 4:41:27 PM
 Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?


So they must be NASA's. And if they come from NASA's site, they
 must be NASA's. Right?



 I'm not sure I follow what you are
 implying. You claiming you have photo's from NASA's website that shows an 
 alien
 house?


 Warren


 
 Date:
 Fri, 21 May 2010 14:26:27 -0700
 From: ymailto=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;
 href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net
 To: ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?


 Waren, then you are saying that if someone did discover a martian house
 that
 NASA could NOT deny it because all Mars pictures come from NASA?
 After all you and I did not go there to take the pics. So they must be 
 NASA's.
 And if they come from NASA's site, they must be NASA's.
 Right?


 - Original Message 
 From:
 Warren Sansoucie
 To: METEORITE LIST
 Sent: Fri, May 21,
 2010 3:32:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS
 Images: ET?


 Hello All,

 Has
 anyone bothered to ponder the fact that the very
 pictures discussed
 were PROVIDED by NASA?

 Do we think that if NASA were

 to find E.T.'s they would be foolish enough to give YOU the photo proof and
 then
 deny it all???


 Come on folks. Again
 conspiracy theories are
 scenarios that are more difficult to execute
 and maintain than the truth they
 attempt to
 debunk.


 Often times a mountain in a poor picture is
 just
 a mountain in a poor picture.

 NASA can run the
 math on orbital insertion
 and actually achieve it take a look at
 how hard that is to do and then think
 twice before you feel they
 would be dumb enough to hand out photos of ET and
 then waste time
 denying it.

 Warren Sansoucie
 I.M.C.A. #3174

 St.
 Louis MO


 Date: Fri, 21 May 2010
 12:02:09 -0700
 From: ymailto=mailto: ymailto=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;
 href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net

 href=mailto: href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net 
 ymailto=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;
 href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net

 To: ymailto=mailto: 
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

 href=mailto: 
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com


 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images:
 ET?


 Tracy, I agree with you! All I have seen
 from other people is just rocks
 and shadows. But will NASA say the
 same of real good pictures that can be
 verafied as actually comming
 from NASA. Or will they finaly admit to the
 et
 presence?



 - Original
 Message
 
 From: tracy latimer 
 ymailto=mailto: href=mailto:daist...@hotmail.com;daist...@hotmail.com

 href=mailto: href=mailto:daist...@hotmail.com;daist...@hotmail.com 
 ymailto=mailto:daist...@hotmail.com;
 href=mailto:daist...@hotmail.com;daist...@hotmail.com

 To:
 href=mailto: ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com


 Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 1:56:27 PM
 Subject: Re:
 [meteorite-list]
 Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images:
 ET?


 I'm fairly
 sure the
 line would be 'Extraordinary claims require

 extraordinary
 proof.' Are you asking whether NASA would endorse a
 claim

 that an image from one of their Mars photos is
 proof of extraterrestrial

 intelligence? Several
 people have pointed to details that
 they found on

 NASA photos and said that they are structures or
 Stonehenge-like
 constructs or
 monuments or other proof of ET.
 Each
 time, when the area can be
 scrutinized in more detail,
 the
 'pyramids' or whatnot have been shown to be a

 natural formation,
 trick

Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

OK Richard, lets forget about Ron.  He no doubt won't reply to that question 
anyway.  And I would be surprised if he did!  Now I know that this thread is 
about meteorites, which I like just like the rest of you here.  But lets face 
it some meteorites come from Mars which makes Mars a good topic.
Four years ago I published a book,  The Adventures of Diana. An adventure 
fantasy that is fiction.  I did research for the book for over 30 years to get 
my facts right.  One project took about 10 years of 8 hours a day pouring over 
Mars pictures from NASA/JPL.  I  easly checked a million pictures.  I figured 
that if MCDonald (if I remember his name right)  found one face on Mars that 
perhaps there were more!  What I found on Mars I put the coordidates in the 
book as part of the story.  My book is for sale all over the world.  Yet I have 
not sold 1 coppy.  Which I find very strange.  The books spelling got screwed 
up and it would have taken a fortune to fix it, so I let it go.  Seeing that 
most can't spell anyway.  And On my site the data that I get says that a 
persentage who come there are redirected and another groupe are told that there 
is no such site and still another groupe is told that they are forbiden.  Only 
1 percent get to see
 the site.  Anyway,  Here is the site.   http://dianathebook.com/   At the 
bottom of the page are pictures that I got from NASA/JPL.  They are from 
Mars!    I enlarged them and no other changes were made. Now if you just decide 
to buy the book, please let me know so that I can figure out if you actualy can 
get the book.  And DO let me think just what you think about the picutres that 
I have found on Mars that show structures!  I have put the pictures on the net 
but no one seem to care!  
- Original Message 
 From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; James Balister balisterja...@att.net
 Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 4:59:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?
 
 I don't want to speak for Ron, but I do not think he reads the lists he posts 
 to. That's not his job. He posts press releases and in the 13 plus years I've 
 been aware of his duties, I can't remember a single time he discussed any of 
 them, even when asked.

As someone who's funding comes from NASA, I can 
 tell you nothing would be better and more exciting for the agency and 
 especially 
 those working on Mars than to find incontrovertible proof that life existed 
 (or 
 better still) still exists on Mars. There's no way that would be kept 
 secret. 


--
Richard Kowalski
Full Moon Photography
IMCA 
 #1081


--- On Fri, 5/21/10, James Balister  ymailto=mailto:balisterja...@att.net; 
 href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net 
 wrote:

 From: James Balister  ymailto=mailto:balisterja...@att.net; 
 href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net
 
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?
 To:  ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  
  
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 
 Date: Friday, May 21, 2010, 2:48 PM
 No comment!  I want to hear what 
 Ron
 has to say about pictures first!   I am sure that he is
 
 asking around.  So lets see what he says.  Then we can get
 started, or 
 not.  
 
 
 
 - Original Message 
 
  From: Warren Sansoucie  
  href=mailto:warren3...@hotmail.com;warren3...@hotmail.com
  
 To:  href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net
  Sent: 
 Fri, May 21, 2010 4:41:27 PM
  Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Mars 
 Odyssey THEMIS
 Images: ET?
  
  
 
 So they must be NASA's. And if they come from
 NASA's site, 
 they 
  must be NASA's. Right?
 
 
 
 
 I'm not sure I follow what you are 
  implying. You claiming you have 
 photo's from NASA's
 website that shows an alien 
  
 house?
 
  
 Warren
 
 
 
 
  Date: 
  Fri, 
 21 May 2010 14:26:27 -0700
  From:  ymailto=mailto: ymailto=mailto:balisterja...@att.net; 
 href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net
 
 
  href=mailto: href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net 
  ymailto=mailto:balisterja...@att.net; 
 href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net
  To: 
  ymailto=mailto: 
  href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 
 
  href=mailto: ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 
  
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS
 
 Images: ET?
 
  
  Waren, then you are saying 
 that if someone did
 discover a martian house 
  that
 
  NASA could NOT deny

Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

2010-05-21 Thread Richard Kowalski

I'll just say one thing.
I did a whois search on the cited domain and got the below result. It appears 
your domain had expired and got picked up by someone else.

You might try a new domain and site, since you can get them for just a few 
dollars per month.

Richard

~



Registrant:
   TAODESIGNS
   5305 South 6th St.
   Milwaukee, Wisconsin 53221
   United States

   Domain Name: DIANATHEBOOK.COM
  Created on: 13-Aug-09
  Expires on: 13-Aug-11
  Last Updated on: 13-Aug-09

   Administrative Contact:
  Grabowski, Karl  
  TAODESIGNS
  5305 South 6th St.
  Milwaukee, Wisconsin 53221
  United States
  (414) 769-9535  Fax -- (414) 769-9536

   Technical Contact:
  Grabowski, Karl  
  TAODESIGNS
  5305 South 6th St.
  Milwaukee, Wisconsin 53221
  United States
  (414) 769-9535  Fax -- (414) 769-9536

   Domain servers in listed order:
  NS1.IDLHOST.COM
  NS2.IDLHOST.COM



  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

On Fri, 21 May 2010 16:52:52 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:

My book is for sale all over the world.  Yet I have not sold 
1 coppy.  Which I find very strange.

A self-published book in paperback sold off a personal website at hardback
prices by a complete unknown?  There is not anything even remotely strange about
you not selling copies.  

A successful fiction book sells 5,000 copies.
A successful nonfiction book sells 7,500 copies.

http://www.humorwriters.org/startlingstats.html

That is for books published by a major publishing house, advertised, reviewed,
and sold by major retailers.  Your sales figures are probably directly in the
mainstream for books under your circumstances.

The profoundly insane nutbaggery below the book info doesn't help.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

Daren,  That is what I am trying to tell you.  I should have at least sold 5000 
books.  Try a google search on my name and you will see what I mean..

- Original Message 
 From: Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 8:17:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

 On Fri, 21 May 2010 16:52:52 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:

My book is for 
 sale all over the world.  Yet I have not sold 
1 coppy.  Which I find 
 very strange.

A self-published book in paperback sold off a personal 
 website at hardback
prices by a complete unknown?  There is not anything 
 even remotely strange about
you not selling copies.  

A 
 successful fiction book sells 5,000 copies.
A successful nonfiction book 
 sells 7,500 
 copies.

http://www.humorwriters.org/startlingstats.html

That is 
 for books published by a major publishing house, advertised, reviewed,
and 
 sold by major retailers.  Your sales figures are probably directly in 
 the
mainstream for books under your circumstances.

The profoundly 
 insane nutbaggery below the book info doesn't 
 help.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

Twice now I have posted a second site for the book to the list and both did not 
show up.  Can you say BAND BOOK!  It must be band all over the world!  Now who 
do you supose could do that?  



- Original Message 
 From: James Balister balisterja...@att.net
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 7:19:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?
 
 Daren,  That is what I am trying to tell you.  I should have at least sold 
 5000 
 books.  Try a google search on my name and you will see what I 
 mean..



- Original Message 
 From: Darren Garrison 
  href=mailto:cyna...@charter.net;cyna...@charter.net
 To:  ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 
 Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 8:17:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars 
 Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?
 
 On Fri, 21 May 2010 16:52:52 -0700 
 (PDT), you wrote:

My book is for 
 sale all over the world.  
 Yet I have not sold 
1 coppy.  Which I find 
 very 
 strange.

A self-published book in paperback sold off a personal 
 
 website at hardback
prices by a complete unknown?  There is not anything 
 
 even remotely strange about
you not selling copies.  

A 
 
 successful fiction book sells 5,000 copies.
A successful nonfiction 
 book 
 sells 7,500 
 
 copies.

http://www.humorwriters.org/startlingstats.html

That is 
 
 for books published by a major publishing house, advertised, 
 reviewed,
and 
 sold by major retailers.  Your sales figures are 
 probably directly in 
 the
mainstream for books under your 
 circumstances.

The profoundly 
 insane nutbaggery below the book 
 info doesn't 
 
 help.
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http://www.greatdreams.com/ufos/adventures-of-diana.htm



- Original Message 
 From: James Balister balisterja...@att.net
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 7:22:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?
 
 Twice now I have posted a second site for the book to the list and both did 
 not 
 show up.  Can you say BAND BOOK!  It must be band all over the world!  Now 
 who 
 do you supose could do that?  



- Original Message 
 
 From: James Balister  
 href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net
 To: 
  
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  
  
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 
 Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 7:19:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars 
 Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?
 
 Daren,  That is what I am trying to 
 tell you.  I should have at least sold 5000 
 books.  Try a google search 
 on my name and you will see what I 
 mean..



- Original 
 Message 
 From: Darren Garrison 
  href=mailto: ymailto=mailto:cyna...@charter.net; 
 href=mailto:cyna...@charter.net;cyna...@charter.net 
 ymailto=mailto:cyna...@charter.net; 
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 Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 8:17:27 PM
 Subject: Re: 
 [meteorite-list] Mars 
 Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?
 
 On 
 Fri, 21 May 2010 16:52:52 -0700 
 (PDT), you wrote:

My book is 
 for 
 sale all over the world.  
 Yet I have not sold 
1 
 coppy.  Which I find 
 very 
 strange.

A self-published 
 book in paperback sold off a personal 
 
 website at 
 hardback
prices by a complete unknown?  There is not anything 
 
 
 even remotely strange about
you not selling copies.  

A 
 
 
 successful fiction book sells 5,000 copies.
A successful 
 nonfiction 
 book 
 sells 7,500 
 
 
 copies.

http://www.humorwriters.org/startlingstats.html

That is 
 
 
 for books published by a major publishing house, advertised, 
 
 reviewed,
and 
 sold by major retailers.  Your sales figures 
 are 
 probably directly in 
 the
mainstream for books under 
 your 
 circumstances.

The profoundly 
 insane nutbaggery 
 below the book 
 info doesn't 
 
 
 help.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? -- Not!!

2010-05-21 Thread Elizabeth Warner

Zooming in on low res files of old Mars images until you see the pixels 
is not a good way to try to get others to see your point of view. I 
would be more understanding if you see a house in a jumble of boulders 
like someone might see a dragon shape in the clouds. But that's not 
what you mean is it?


Of course Ron won't respond.

Yes, pictures are worth a million words with 2 million being lies! 
Learning to interpret space imagery is an art. It is well known that 
various optical illusions occur when looking at images and you don't 
have the right context. Craters can look like raised domes... Alot has 
to do with shadows and how our eyes interpret (misinterpret) shadows in 
pictures.


Clear Skies!
Elizabeth

James Balister wrote:

OK Richard, lets forget about Ron.  He no doubt won't reply to that question 
anyway.  And I would be surprised if he did!  Now I know that this thread is 
about meteorites, which I like just like the rest of you here.  But lets face 
it some meteorites come from Mars which makes Mars a good topic.
Four years ago I published a book,  The Adventures of Diana. An adventure 
fantasy that is fiction.  I did research for the book for over 30 years to get 
my facts right.  One project took about 10 years of 8 hours a day pouring over 
Mars pictures from NASA/JPL.  I  easly checked a million pictures.  I figured 
that if MCDonald (if I remember his name right)  found one face on Mars that 
perhaps there were more!  What I found on Mars I put the coordidates in the 
book as part of the story.  My book is for sale all over the world.  Yet I have 
not sold 1 coppy.  Which I find very strange.  The books spelling got screwed 
up and it would have taken a fortune to fix it, so I let it go.  Seeing that 
most can't spell anyway.  And On my site the data that I get says that a 
persentage who come there are redirected and another groupe are told that there 
is no such site and still another groupe is told that they are forbiden.  Only 
1 percent get to see
 the site.  Anyway,  Here is the site.   http://dianathebook.com/   At the bottom of the page are pictures that I got from NASA/JPL.  They are from Mars!I enlarged them and no other changes were made. Now if you just decide to buy the book, please let me know so that I can figure out if you actualy can get the book.  And DO let me think just what you think about the picutres that I have found on Mars that show structures!  I have put the pictures on the net but no one seem to care!  
- Original Message 

From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 
James Balister balisterja...@att.net
Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 4:59:46 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

I don't want to speak for Ron, but I do not think he reads the lists he posts 
to. That's not his job. He posts press releases and in the 13 plus years I've 
been aware of his duties, I can't remember a single time he discussed any of 
them, even when asked.


As someone who's funding comes from NASA, I can 
tell you nothing would be better and more exciting for the agency and especially 
those working on Mars than to find incontrovertible proof that life existed (or 
better still) still exists on Mars. There's no way that would be kept 
secret. 



--
Richard Kowalski
Full Moon Photography
IMCA 

#1081



--- On Fri, 5/21/10, James Balister  ymailto=mailto:balisterja...@att.net; 
href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net 
wrote:


From: James Balister  ymailto=mailto:balisterja...@att.net; 
href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net


Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?
To:  ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 
href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com


Date: Friday, May 21, 2010, 2:48 PM
No comment!  I want to hear what 
Ron

has to say about pictures first!   I am sure that he is

asking around.  So lets see what he says.  Then we can get
started, or 
not.  




- Original Message 


From: Warren Sansoucie  
href=mailto:warren3...@hotmail.com;warren3...@hotmail.com


To:  href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net
Sent: 

Fri, May 21, 2010 4:41:27 PM
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Mars 

Odyssey THEMIS
Images: ET?



So they must be NASA's. And if they come from
NASA's site, 
they 

must be NASA's. Right?




I'm not sure I follow what you are 
implying. You claiming you have 

photo's from NASA's
website that shows an alien 
house?


Warren




Date: 
Fri, 

21 May 2010 14:26:27 -0700
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href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net


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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? -- Not!!

2010-05-21 Thread Starsinthedirt

  PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images:  ET?

 I don't want to speak for Ron, but I do not think he  reads the lists he 
posts 
 to. That's not his job. He posts press  releases and in the 13 plus 
years I've 
 been aware of his duties, I  can't remember a single time he discussed 
any of 
 them, even when  asked.
 
 As someone who's funding comes from NASA, I can  
 tell you nothing would be better and more exciting for the agency  and 
especially 
 those working on Mars than to find incontrovertible  proof that life 
existed (or 
 better still) still exists on Mars.  There's no way that would be kept 
 secret. 
 
  
 --
 Richard Kowalski
 Full Moon Photography
 IMCA  
 #1081
 
 
 --- On Fri, 5/21/10, James Balister   
ymailto=mailto:balisterja...@att.net; 
  href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net 
  wrote:
 
 From: James Balister   ymailto=mailto:balisterja...@att.net; 
  href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net

  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?
 To:   ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 
  
href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  
   
href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

  Date: Friday, May 21, 2010, 2:48 PM
 No comment!  I want to hear  what 
 Ron
 has to say about pictures first!   I  am sure that he is

 asking around.  So lets see what  he says.  Then we can get
 started, or 
 not.   



 - Original Message  

 From: Warren Sansoucie   
href=mailto:warren3...@hotmail.com;warren3...@hotmail.com

  To:   href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net
  Sent: 
 Fri, May 21, 2010 4:41:27 PM
 Subject: RE:  [meteorite-list] Mars 
 Odyssey THEMIS
 Images:  ET?

 So they must be NASA's. And if they  come from
 NASA's site, 
 they 
 must be  NASA's. Right?



 I'm not sure  I follow what you are 
 implying. You claiming you have  
 photo's from NASA's
 website that shows an alien  
 house?

  Warren



  
 Date: 
  Fri, 
 21 May 2010 14:26:27 -0700
 From:   ymailto=mailto: ymailto=mailto:balisterja...@att.net; 
  href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net


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href=mailto:balisterja...@att.net;balisterja...@att.net  
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 To:  
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  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS
 Images:  ET?

 Waren, then you are saying 
 that  if someone did
 discover a martian house 
  that
 NASA could NOT deny it because all Mars pictures  come
 from NASA? 

 After all you and I did  not go there to take the pics.
 So 
 they must be NASA's.  
 And if they come from NASA's site, they must 
  be
 NASA's. 
  Right?



 -  Original Message 
 From: 
 Warren  
 Sansoucie 
 To: METEORITE LIST  
 Sent: Fri, May 
 21, 
 2010  3:32:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 
 Mars  Odyssey THEMIS

 Images: ET?
 Hello  All,

 Has 

 anyone  bothered to ponder the fact that the very
 pictures  
 discussed 
 were PROVIDED by  NASA?

 Do we 
 think that if NASA  were
 to find E.T.'s they would 
 be foolish enough to  give
 YOU the photo proof and 
 then
  deny it all???

 Come 
 on folks.  Again 
 conspiracy theories are
 scenarios that  are more difficult to execute 
 and maintain than the  
 truth they
 attempt to 
  debunk.

 Often times a mountain in a poor picture  is 
 just
 a mountain in a poor  picture.
 NASA can run the 
 math on orbital  
 insertion
 and actually achieve it take a  look at 
 how hard that is to do and then  think
 twice before you 
 feel they  
 would be dumb enough to hand out photos of ET 
  and
 then waste time 
 denying  it.
 Warren Sansoucie
 I.M.C.A.  #3174

 St.
 Louis  MO

 Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 
  12:02:09 -0700
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? -- Not!!

On Fri, 21 May 2010 20:30:59 -0400, you wrote:

would be more understanding if you see a house in a jumble of boulders 
like someone might see a dragon shape in the clouds. But that's not 
what you mean is it?

The term for that is pareidolia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

On Fri, 21 May 2010 17:22:32 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:

Can you say BAND BOOK!  It must be band all over the world!  Now who do you 
supose could do that?  

Yes, I can say Band Book.  But unless your book is about Alyson Hannigan and
her creative use of a flute, I don't think band means what you think it means.

(And if your book is about that one time, in band camp, I'll take 37 copies.)
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

2010-05-21 Thread Brian Cox


Darren and James,

With all due respect, and I'm not picking sides here or trying to get in 
between either of you nor to correct anyone, but the article that Darren 
quoted from on books sales is an article by Robyn Jackson, from Copyright 
2003 Seven years ago. I thought the facts were rather odd and 
out of date, since no one listens to 3 hours of radio anymore, not even old 
me with my oldies, since everyone is on their ipod. If I see someone with a 
CD player attached to their arm it's only because they're running along the 
lake, and most have switched to ipods, and most people barely watch 4 hours 
of TV anymore. It didn't give any stats on computer use since 7 years ago 
not everyone had one.


The article from University of Dayton: Erma Bombeck's Writer's Workshop, is 
sorely outdated, since Erma, rest her soul has been Dead since April 22, 
1996.


I'm sure the book stats have changed, but with the computer and internet, 
which that ancient 2003 article Didn't even mention is where most people get 
their news these days (I haven't bought a newspaper in two years) and people 
read more online or with their kindle or their ipad than a real book. Then 
Darren's point is valid that books just don't sell like they used to unless 
someone is lying on a beach on vacation or takes one into a restaurant or 
coffee shop or on the train or bus going to work. Believe me, I live in 
downtown Chicago and I get a warm soft spot in my heart when I actually see 
someone with a book going to work or someplace. I love the smell of a book, 
nothing like that, brings back grade school, simpler times I guess. Everyone 
else is on their iphone or Crackberry reading, texting and web surfing.


Don't feel bad Darren, you were making a good point, and James, don't give 
up, there are ebooks and you may try that route with your book through an 
online publisher.


I wish you both the best.

Brian 


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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

Thanks Brian!  My book is also an E-Book. 
http://www.authorhouse.com/Bookstore/BookStoreSearchResults.aspx?SearchType=smplSearchTerm=james%20w%20balister 
 

But I am not trying to push my book.  I am only trying to get the so many 
intelegent people here to open their eyes and see.  There is too much denile.  
Folks onlysee what they belive!  And they don't belive what they see!  (Quote 
from me!)

- Original Message 
 From: Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net
 To: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 12:01:06 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?
 
 Darren and James,

With all due respect, and I'm not picking sides here or 
 trying to get in between either of you nor to correct anyone, but the article 
 that Darren quoted from on books sales is an article by Robyn Jackson, from 
 Copyright 2003 Seven years ago. I thought the facts were rather 
 odd 
 and out of date, since no one listens to 3 hours of radio anymore, not even 
 old 
 me with my oldies, since everyone is on their ipod. If I see someone with a 
 CD 
 player attached to their arm it's only because they're running along the 
 lake, 
 and most have switched to ipods, and most people barely watch 4 hours of TV 
 anymore. It didn't give any stats on computer use since 7 years ago not 
 everyone 
 had one.

The article from University of Dayton: Erma Bombeck's Writer's 
 Workshop, is sorely outdated, since Erma, rest her soul has been Dead since 
 April 22, 1996.

I'm sure the book stats 
 have changed, but with the computer and internet, which that ancient 2003 
 article Didn't even mention is where most people get their news these days (I 
 haven't bought a newspaper in two years) and people read more online or with 
 their kindle or their ipad than a real book. Then Darren's point is valid 
 that 
 books just don't sell like they used to unless someone is lying on a beach on 
 vacation or takes one into a restaurant or coffee shop or on the train or bus 
 going to work. Believe me, I live in downtown Chicago and I get a warm soft 
 spot 
 in my heart when I actually see someone with a book going to work or 
 someplace. 
 I love the smell of a book, nothing like that, brings back grade school, 
 simpler 
 times I guess. Everyone else is on their iphone or Crackberry reading, 
 texting 
 and web surfing.

Don't feel bad Darren, you were making a good point, and 
 James, don't give up, there are ebooks and you may try that route with your 
 book 
 through an online publisher.

I wish you both the best.

Brian 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

On Sat, 22 May 2010 00:01:06 -0500, you wrote:

read more online or with their kindle or their ipad than a real book. Then 
Darren's point is valid that books just don't sell like they used to unless 
someone is lying on a beach on vacation or takes one into a restaurant or 
coffee shop or on the train or bus going to work. Believe me, I live in 

I didn't realize the figure were that old, but the point remains that most books
do not sell many copies at all, and it has always been that way.  I'd bet that
the figures today are similar to those-- or worse.  And that is with backing.
Self published books by unknowns?  Almost nobody buys those.

Don't feel bad Darren, you were making a good point, and James, don't give 
up, there are ebooks and you may try that route with your book through an 
online publisher.

Already exists:

http://www.booksonboard.com/index.php?BODY=viewbookBOOK=567896v=buynow

Almost nobody pays for self-published ebooks from unknowns, either.

Sample pages from the book here.  Enjoy!

http://www.flipkart.com/book/adventures-diana-james-balister-underworld/1425940765#previewbook
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

I forgot to mentionSomeone thought that 19 bucks was too high for a fiction 
book.  They sell for 25 bucks on average.  And we all know what meteorite books 
run!  I bought a book last year that ran me 100 bucks!  So I think 19 is not 
too bad for a book!

- Original Message 
 From: James Balister balisterja...@att.net
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 12:11:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

 Thanks Brian!  My book is also an E-Book. 
 http://www.authorhouse.com/Bookstore/BookStoreSearchResults.aspx?SearchType=smplSearchTerm=james%20w%20balister 

But I am not trying to push my book.  I am only trying to get the so 
 many intelegent people here to open their eyes and see.  There is too much 
 denile.  Folks onlysee what they belive!  And they don't belive what they 
 see!  (Quote from me!)

- Original Message 
 From: Brian 
 Cox  
 href=mailto:searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net;searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net

 To: Meteorite-list  
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

 Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 12:01:06 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars 
 Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

 Darren and James,

With all 
 due respect, and I'm not picking sides here or 
 trying to get in between 
 either of you nor to correct anyone, but the article 
 that Darren quoted 
 from on books sales is an article by Robyn Jackson, from 
 Copyright 
 2003 Seven years ago. I thought the facts were rather odd 

 and out of date, since no one listens to 3 hours of radio anymore, not even 
 old 

 me with my oldies, since everyone is on their ipod. If I see someone 
 with a CD 
 player attached to their arm it's only because they're 
 running along the lake, 
 and most have switched to ipods, and most 
 people barely watch 4 hours of TV 
 anymore. It didn't give any stats on 
 computer use since 7 years ago not everyone 
 had one.

The article 
 from University of Dayton: Erma Bombeck's Writer's 
 Workshop, is sorely 
 outdated, since Erma, rest her soul has been Dead since 
 April 22, 
 1996.

I'm sure the book stats 

 have changed, but with the computer and internet, which that ancient 2003 

 article Didn't even mention is where most people get their news these 
 days (I 
 haven't bought a newspaper in two years) and people read more 
 online or with 
 their kindle or their ipad than a real book. Then 
 Darren's point is valid that 
 books just don't sell like they used to 
 unless someone is lying on a beach on 
 vacation or takes one into a 
 restaurant or coffee shop or on the train or bus 
 going to work. Believe 
 me, I live in downtown Chicago and I get a warm soft spot 
 in my heart 
 when I actually see someone with a book going to work or someplace. 
 I 
 love the smell of a book, nothing like that, brings back grade school, 
 simpler 

 times I guess. Everyone else is on their iphone or Crackberry reading, 
 texting 
 and web surfing.

Don't feel bad Darren, you were making 
 a good point, and 
 James, don't give up, there are ebooks and you may 
 try that route with your book 
 through an online publisher.

I 
 wish you both the best.

Brian 

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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?

On Fri, 21 May 2010 22:16:43 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:

Someone thought that 19 bucks was too high for 
a fiction book.  They sell for 25 bucks on average.  

Hardbacks of industry-published, widely marketed books have MSRPs in the $25
range-- most of which end up being sold for less than the cover price.  Most
books are not printed as hardbacks, and most hardbacks don't sell many copies.
Most books sales are for mass-market paperbacks that sell for under $10.

You are attempting to sell a self-published paperback for the price of a
hardback-- you are marketing a Yugo at Mercedes prices.
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