[meteorite-list] Stolen Meteorite Slice
Hello All; We have had a full slice of the Henbury Meteorite stolen from us at the Kansas City show yesterday. I am asking that everyone please keep an eye out for it and let us know if anyone contacts you attempting to sell it. Here is the info for the slice: Henbury Full Slice 180mm X 95mm X 6mm thick weighs approx 890 grams Stolen in Kansas City from the Shows of Integrity. I can't post a picture here but I can email a picture to anyone who wants one and I have posted it on all the meteorite sites on FB. Thank you Dana and Keith -- Keith and Dana Jenkerson kdmeteorites.com 39990 Bethel Church RD Osawatomie, KS., 66064 928-399-0140 __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen meteorite
This sucks. Let’s all keep eyes wide open. -Richard “Rick Bob” Montgomery From: Jim Baxter via Meteorite-list Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2017 1:11 PM To: Meteorite List Subject: [meteorite-list] Stolen meteorite Passing along a message from Blaine Reed at the Tucson show: Stolen an Odessa individual, uncleaned, approx. 960 grams, has a UNM painted number starting with K2.??? FYI Jim Baxter __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Stolen meteorite
Passing along a message from Blaine Reed at the Tucson show: Stolen an Odessa individual, uncleaned, approx. 960 grams, has a UNM painted number starting with K2.??? FYI Jim Baxter __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Stolen Meteorite
Hello, All; We are currently doing the Denver Coliseum Gem and Mineral show and today we had a small 11.5 gram end piece of Belly River stolen from its case. They did not take the label, just the meteorite from the case. The case had the name, weight, and the price of $1100 on it, so I would guess this person will try to sell it saying what it is and what the value we had on it. We had multiple pictures of it on our website - here is a link to them: http://kdmeteorites.com/BellyRiverMeteorite11.5gms.html We would like to ask everyone to please keep your eyes out in case whoever took it tries to sell it. Our phone number is 928-399-0140 Thank you, Keith and Dana Jenkerson Sent from my iPad __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Stolen Meteorite, NYSP SP Horseheads Case.
Please be on the lookout for a stolen meteorite as described by the New York State Police in the email below, any leads contact the investigator TPR A Y Heppner (607) 739-8796 SP Horseheads : Thank you, Michael Casper - Original Message - From: Angelique Heppner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Angelique Heppner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 5:11 PM Subject: Stolen Meteorite, NYSP SP Horseheads Case. Mr. Casper, This is the in best information and discription, I can provide regarding the stolen meteorite. Meteorite taken from private residence on Jay Rumsey Rd., T/Van Etten, between last week of July 2007, and first week of August 2007. Possible suspect, may be a son who lives in Long Island. Meteorite was in back yard of residence, and was used as a bird bath. Meteorite was approximately 20inches long, by 10 inches wide, by 12 inches high. Had curved indentation (use as bird bath), which was about 0.5 to 1inch deep on one side, and sloped to about 1- 1.5 inches deep. Meteorite had an oval shape, and was reddish brown in color. Compl. states that Cornell University verified it was a meteorite back in the early 1970's. Thanks for your help, TPR A Y Heppner (607) 739-8796 SP Horseheads. This e-mail, including any attachments, may contain highly sensitive and confidential information. It is intended only for the individual(s) named. If you received this e-mail in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, do not disseminate, copy or otherwise use this e-mail or its attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete the e-mail from your system. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen Meteorite, NYSP SP Horseheads Case.
On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 02:16:04 -0400, you wrote: Possible suspect, may be a son who lives in Long Island. Meteorite was in back yard of residence, and was used as a bird bath. had an oval shape, and was reddish brown in color. Compl. states that Cornell University verified it was a meteorite back in the early 1970's. Oky. So the guy has a verified real large meteorite, but continued to use the valuable item for a fracking BIRDBATH, and maybe his son stole it. Two bets here: the birdbath ain't a meteorite, and the complainant is mentally ill. If he IS using a real meteorite as a bird bath, I hope he never gets it back. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Stolen meteorite
Greenish brown with crystals and about $100 a gram. Some rare pallasite? http://www.wftv.com/news/15244324/detail.html SUMMERLAND KEY, Fla. -- A space rock is missing from the Florida Keys. The Monroe County Sheriff's Office says a meteorite was stolen sometime between Tuesday night and Wednesday morning from a display at a gathering of amateur astronomers on West Summerland Key. The meteorite is worth $10,000 and weighs about 99 grams. It's greenish-brown with crystals. One side of it has a cut. The meteorite was on display at the Winter Star Party by a vendor from Pennsylvania. Authorities say the vendor had it in an unlocked case covered with a tarp. The gathering is hosted by Miami's Southern Cross Astronomical Society. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Stolen meteorite part 2
Well, it seems that the $10,000 99 gram meteorite is an Imilac slice, but someone who wishes to remain anonymous guessed (correctly) the name of the meteorite owner before it came out, and it seems that he has a somewhat questionable reputation http://www.miamiherald.com/news/breaking_dade/story/410972.html Rare meteorite stolen in Keys SUMMERLAND KEY -- A rare meteorite was stolen this week during a star gazing party held at a Girl Scout camp in the Keys. ''It's just beautiful,'' said the meteorite's owner, Bob Summerfield of Melrose, Pa. ``I describe it as celestial stained glass. I'm devastated. It's like losing a child to me.'' Summerfield founded Astronomy To Go, a nonprofit organization that goes around the country with a mission to get children excited about science. One method is by letting the children touch rocks that have come from outer space. Summerfield has a personal collection of about 400 meteorites valued at nearly $2 million. He said the stolen piece, which is the size of a 3x5 post card and extremely rare, was worth $10,000. NOT INSURABLE It was also not insurable, Summerfield said, because he refused to keep it safely locked away. ''I wanted to share it with children,'' he said. ``I'm a museum that comes to you. And hundreds of thousands of kids, if not a million, have handled this meteorite.'' Out of his entire collection, the stolen piece was his No. 2 favorite, behind only a 65-pound meteorite from Africa. It came from the meteorites first discovered near Imilac, in the Atacama Desert of Chile in 1822. It features greenish brown olivine crystals embedded in a shiny silver matrix. The rock looks like stained glass when hit with light. Summerfield had displayed the meteorite at his vendor's booth during the 24th Annual Winter Star Party hosted by Miami's Southern Cross Astronomical Society. It's the fifth or sixth year he has brought that particular meteorite. NOT LOCKED At about 5:30 p.m. Tuesday, Summerfield closed his booth and left the meteorite in a display case that was not locked. He put a tarp over the case. ''There are millions of dollars worth of astronomical equipment, telescopes, eye pieces and computers and nobody thinks twice about leaving their stuff,'' Summerfield said. He discovered the theft at 9:45 a.m. Wednesday. Summerfield said it's the first theft in the 24-year history of the Keys' star party, one of the most prestigious in the country. It attracts about 600 people from nine countries to gaze at stars under dark skies not obscured from city lights. ''I'm just sick and heartbroken it has happened,'' Summerfield said. ``I hope I get it back.'' __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen meteorite for sale?
Hi Paul (Litig8n-shark), all - It's funny: you're worrying about the courts, while oblivious to what has been observed to be incidents of horrendous bad luck following upon the desecration of native american religious artifacts. (I'm sorry, but for the time being I'll have to leave that statement without rigourous documentation.) While some may have previously bought or sold Williamette while oblivous to its earlier religious use, if you now feel comfortable purchasing it at auction, go on ahead. We need some data on mache katet, and it should be easy enough to follow the fates of the auction's winners. E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good evening, Folks, I've not kept up with this thread, unfortunately. However, this post makes me think that what I am looking at is the possibility of another demand for reparations...25.50, or 100, or more years later. When will it end? For what special group, shall there be an unlimited statute of limitations? Shall causes-of-action be allowed to pass down through families, or special groups--as a result of nothing more than bloodline--in perpetuity? I sincerely hope not. Are there any among us who can't remotely align with a special group who has been discriminated against, under color of governmental authority, in the past few hundred years? In my opinion, no group should be entitled to multiple bites at the apple, over decades. Might your position on this issue change if suddenly, your country's laws changed, and all of a sudden you found your meteorite collection, or part thereof, being subject to confiscation? Just a thought. Best Regards, Paul Martyn Savannah, Georgia In a message dated 9/19/2007 8:53:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That is quite a condensed version of a very interesting story. Good place to start and follow the references. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willamette_Meteorite Rob Wesel http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 - Original Message - From: E.P. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen meteorite for sale? Hi Pete, all - If I remember correctly, the meteorite was considered a sacred relic by the local people, but the European settlers hacked off pieces, and then the bulk of it was hauled off by wagon and sold. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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this is offensive, and not just to me, but to native americans. how is it, exactly, that you're expert in how vengeful native american spirits will be---that is if they're vengeful at all? and might the measure of an honorable life mitigate the wrath you predict, or are you just making this into a nice little primitive fable? and just to be clear, trust me, if get suddenly drop, it's not because of a meteorite transaction; i've been pushing notions of good living for far too long. moreover, there exist countless objects in nature that have been venerated by previous cultures that we have no idea of---and that's a free pass?! is it tribe specific? just checking. Depth of Field Management 1501 Broadway Suite 1304 New York, New York 10036 212.302.9200 On Sep 20, 2007, at 1:49 PM, E.P. Grondine wrote: Hi Paul (Litig8n-shark), all - It's funny: you're worrying about the courts, while oblivious to what has been observed to be incidents of horrendous bad luck following upon the desecration of native american religious artifacts. (I'm sorry, but for the time being I'll have to leave that statement without rigourous documentation.) While some may have previously bought or sold Williamette while oblivous to its earlier religious use, if you now feel comfortable purchasing it at auction, go on ahead. We need some data on mache katet, and it should be easy enough to follow the fates of the auction's winners. E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good evening, Folks, I've not kept up with this thread, unfortunately. However, this post makes me think that what I am looking at is the possibility of another demand for reparations...25.50, or 100, or more years later. When will it end? For what special group, shall there be an unlimited statute of limitations? Shall causes-of-action be allowed to pass down through families, or special groups--as a result of nothing more than bloodline--in perpetuity? I sincerely hope not. Are there any among us who can't remotely align with a special group who has been discriminated against, under color of governmental authority, in the past few hundred years? In my opinion, no group should be entitled to multiple bites at the apple, over decades. Might your position on this issue change if suddenly, your country's laws changed, and all of a sudden you found your meteorite collection, or part thereof, being subject to confiscation? Just a thought. Best Regards, Paul Martyn Savannah, Georgia In a message dated 9/19/2007 8:53:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That is quite a condensed version of a very interesting story. Good place to start and follow the references. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willamette_Meteorite Rob Wesel http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 - Original Message - From: E.P. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen meteorite for sale? Hi Pete, all - If I remember correctly, the meteorite was considered a sacred relic by the local people, but the European settlers hacked off pieces, and then the bulk of it was hauled off by wagon and sold. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com __ __ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen meteorite for sale?
I'm torn-- is this a threat of murder by indian spirits or a threat of murder by EPG and friends? You might want to keep a gun close at hand, just in case. On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 14:08:48 -0400, you wrote: this is offensive, and not just to me, but to native americans. how is it, exactly, that you're expert in how vengeful native american spirits will be---that is if they're vengeful at all? and might the measure of an honorable life mitigate the wrath you predict, or are you just making this into a nice little primitive fable? and just to be clear, trust me, if get suddenly drop, it's not because of a meteorite transaction; i've been pushing notions of good living for far too long. moreover, there exist countless objects in nature that have been venerated by previous cultures that we have no idea of---and that's a free pass?! is it tribe specific? just checking. On Sep 20, 2007, at 1:49 PM, E.P. Grondine wrote: Hi Paul (Litig8n-shark), all - It's funny: you're worrying about the courts, while oblivious to what has been observed to be incidents of horrendous bad luck following upon the desecration of native american religious artifacts. (I'm sorry, but for the time being I'll have to leave that statement without rigourous documentation.) While some may have previously bought or sold Williamette while oblivous to its earlier religious use, if you now feel comfortable purchasing it at auction, go on ahead. We need some data on mache katet, and it should be easy enough to follow the fates of the auction's winners. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Darryl - I suppose my answers to your questions are we'll find out. If you really feel compelled to do so go on ahead and join the dataset. E.P. --- Darryl Pitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this is offensive, and not just to me, but to native americans. how is it, exactly, that you're expert in how vengeful native american spirits will be---that is if they're vengeful at all? and might the measure of an honorable life mitigate the wrath you predict, or are you just making this into a nice little primitive fable? and just to be clear, trust me, if get suddenly drop, it's not because of a meteorite transaction; i've been pushing notions of good living for far too long. moreover, there exist countless objects in nature that have been venerated by previous cultures that we have no idea of---and that's a free pass?! is it tribe specific? just checking. Depth of Field Management 1501 Broadway Suite 1304 New York, New York 10036 212.302.9200 On Sep 20, 2007, at 1:49 PM, E.P. Grondine wrote: Hi Paul (Litig8n-shark), all - It's funny: you're worrying about the courts, while oblivious to what has been observed to be incidents of horrendous bad luck following upon the desecration of native american religious artifacts. (I'm sorry, but for the time being I'll have to leave that statement without rigourous documentation.) While some may have previously bought or sold Williamette while oblivous to its earlier religious use, if you now feel comfortable purchasing it at auction, go on ahead. We need some data on mache katet, and it should be easy enough to follow the fates of the auction's winners. E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good evening, Folks, I've not kept up with this thread, unfortunately. However, this post makes me think that what I am looking at is the possibility of another demand for reparations...25.50, or 100, or more years later. When will it end? For what special group, shall there be an unlimited statute of limitations? Shall causes-of-action be allowed to pass down through families, or special groups--as a result of nothing more than bloodline--in perpetuity? I sincerely hope not. Are there any among us who can't remotely align with a special group who has been discriminated against, under color of governmental authority, in the past few hundred years? In my opinion, no group should be entitled to multiple bites at the apple, over decades. Might your position on this issue change if suddenly, your country's laws changed, and all of a sudden you found your meteorite collection, or part thereof, being subject to confiscation? Just a thought. Best Regards, Paul Martyn Savannah, Georgia In a message dated 9/19/2007 8:53:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That is quite a condensed version of a very interesting story. Good place to start and follow the references. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willamette_Meteorite Rob Wesel http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 - Original Message - From: E.P. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen meteorite for sale? Hi Pete, all - If I remember correctly, the meteorite was considered a sacred relic by the local people, but the European settlers hacked off pieces, and then the bulk of it was hauled off by wagon and sold. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com __ __ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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glad to see the scientific method still at work!! actually, come to think of it, yesterday i arrived at 5th/70th street just after a woman was tragically struck by a truck. and, get this, an hour or so ago, i happened upon a taxi around the corner from my office which was completely ablaze. maybe as you're the recipient of this email k. On Sep 20, 2007, at 3:03 PM, E.P. Grondine wrote: Hi Darryl - I suppose my answers to your questions are we'll find out. If you really feel compelled to do so go on ahead and join the dataset. E.P. --- Darryl Pitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this is offensive, and not just to me, but to native americans. how is it, exactly, that you're expert in how vengeful native american spirits will be---that is if they're vengeful at all? and might the measure of an honorable life mitigate the wrath you predict, or are you just making this into a nice little primitive fable? and just to be clear, trust me, if get suddenly drop, it's not because of a meteorite transaction; i've been pushing notions of good living for far too long. moreover, there exist countless objects in nature that have been venerated by previous cultures that we have no idea of---and that's a free pass?! is it tribe specific? just checking. Depth of Field Management 1501 Broadway Suite 1304 New York, New York 10036 212.302.9200 On Sep 20, 2007, at 1:49 PM, E.P. Grondine wrote: Hi Paul (Litig8n-shark), all - It's funny: you're worrying about the courts, while oblivious to what has been observed to be incidents of horrendous bad luck following upon the desecration of native american religious artifacts. (I'm sorry, but for the time being I'll have to leave that statement without rigourous documentation.) While some may have previously bought or sold Williamette while oblivous to its earlier religious use, if you now feel comfortable purchasing it at auction, go on ahead. We need some data on mache katet, and it should be easy enough to follow the fates of the auction's winners. E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good evening, Folks, I've not kept up with this thread, unfortunately. However, this post makes me think that what I am looking at is the possibility of another demand for reparations...25.50, or 100, or more years later. When will it end? For what special group, shall there be an unlimited statute of limitations? Shall causes-of-action be allowed to pass down through families, or special groups--as a result of nothing more than bloodline--in perpetuity? I sincerely hope not. Are there any among us who can't remotely align with a special group who has been discriminated against, under color of governmental authority, in the past few hundred years? In my opinion, no group should be entitled to multiple bites at the apple, over decades. Might your position on this issue change if suddenly, your country's laws changed, and all of a sudden you found your meteorite collection, or part thereof, being subject to confiscation? Just a thought. Best Regards, Paul Martyn Savannah, Georgia In a message dated 9/19/2007 8:53:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That is quite a condensed version of a very interesting story. Good place to start and follow the references. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willamette_Meteorite Rob Wesel http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 - Original Message - From: E.P. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen meteorite for sale? Hi Pete, all - If I remember correctly, the meteorite was considered a sacred relic by the local people, but the European settlers hacked off pieces, and then the bulk of it was hauled off by wagon and sold. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com __ __ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ __ Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen meteorite for sale?
Darryl, Maybe you can redeem yourself by gambling away the money from the sale of the meteorite at the noble, sacred casino. I wonder how all the shmucks that lose their familes and homes there will fit the dataset? The spirits will look favorably on them I suppose but not during the game of course. Are there spirits of the slot machine and blackjack table that one could entreat for good fortune? The sprawling Grand Ronde complex is a sin against the earth as defined by tradition, isn't it? Who will pay for that crime? Hypocrites don't hold any spritual water in my opinion. Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:26:07 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen meteorite for sale? glad to see the scientific method still at work!! actually, come to think of it, yesterday i arrived at 5th/70th street just after a woman was tragically struck by a truck. and, get this, an hour or so ago, i happened upon a taxi around the corner from my office which was completely ablaze. maybe as you're the recipient of this email k. On Sep 20, 2007, at 3:03 PM, E.P. Grondine wrote: Hi Darryl - I suppose my answers to your questions are we'll find out. If you really feel compelled to do so go on ahead and join the dataset. E.P. --- Darryl Pitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this is offensive, and not just to me, but to native americans. how is it, exactly, that you're expert in how vengeful native american spirits will be---that is if they're vengeful at all? and might the measure of an honorable life mitigate the wrath you predict, or are you just making this into a nice little primitive fable? and just to be clear, trust me, if get suddenly drop, it's not because of a meteorite transaction; i've been pushing notions of good living for far too long. moreover, there exist countless objects in nature that have been venerated by previous cultures that we have no idea of---and that's a free pass?! is it tribe specific? just checking. Depth of Field Management 1501 Broadway Suite 1304 New York, New York 10036 212.302.9200 On Sep 20, 2007, at 1:49 PM, E.P. Grondine wrote: Hi Paul (Litig8n-shark), all - It's funny: you're worrying about the courts, while oblivious to what has been observed to be incidents of horrendous bad luck following upon the desecration of native american religious artifacts. (I'm sorry, but for the time being I'll have to leave that statement without rigourous documentation.) While some may have previously bought or sold Williamette while oblivous to its earlier religious use, if you now feel comfortable purchasing it at auction, go on ahead. We need some data on mache katet, and it should be easy enough to follow the fates of the auction's winners. E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good evening, Folks, I've not kept up with this thread, unfortunately. However, this post makes me think that what I am looking at is the possibility of another demand for reparations...25.50, or 100, or more years later. When will it end? For what special group, shall there be an unlimited statute of limitations? Shall causes-of-action be allowed to pass down through families, or special groups--as a result of nothing more than bloodline--in perpetuity? I sincerely hope not. Are there any among us who can't remotely align with a special group who has been discriminated against, under color of governmental authority, in the past few hundred years? In my opinion, no group should be entitled to multiple bites at the apple, over decades. Might your position on this issue change if suddenly, your country's laws changed, and all of a sudden you found your meteorite collection, or part thereof, being subject to confiscation? Just a thought. Best Regards, Paul Martyn Savannah, Georgia In a message dated 9/19/2007 8:53:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That is quite a condensed version of a very interesting story. Good place to start and follow the references. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willamette_Meteorite Rob Wesel http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 - Original Message - From: E.P. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen meteorite for sale? Hi Pete, all - If I remember correctly, the meteorite was considered a sacred relic by the local people, but the European settlers hacked off pieces, and then the bulk of it was hauled off by wagon and sold
Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen meteorite for sale?
checking. Depth of Field Management 1501 Broadway Suite 1304 New York, New York 10036 212.302.9200 On Sep 20, 2007, at 1:49 PM, E.P. Grondine wrote: Hi Paul (Litig8n-shark), all - It's funny: you're worrying about the courts, while oblivious to what has been observed to be incidents of horrendous bad luck following upon the desecration of native american religious artifacts. (I'm sorry, but for the time being I'll have to leave that statement without rigourous documentation.) While some may have previously bought or sold Williamette while oblivous to its earlier religious use, if you now feel comfortable purchasing it at auction, go on ahead. We need some data on mache katet, and it should be easy enough to follow the fates of the auction's winners. E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good evening, Folks, I've not kept up with this thread, unfortunately. However, this post makes me think that what I am looking at is the possibility of another demand for reparations...25.50, or 100, or more years later. When will it end? For what special group, shall there be an unlimited statute of limitations? Shall causes-of-action be allowed to pass down through families, or special groups--as a result of nothing more than bloodline--in perpetuity? I sincerely hope not. Are there any among us who can't remotely align with a special group who has been discriminated against, under color of governmental authority, in the past few hundred years? In my opinion, no group should be entitled to multiple bites at the apple, over decades. Might your position on this issue change if suddenly, your country's laws changed, and all of a sudden you found your meteorite collection, or part thereof, being subject to confiscation? Just a thought. Best Regards, Paul Martyn Savannah, Georgia In a message dated 9/19/2007 8:53:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That is quite a condensed version of a very interesting story. Good place to start and follow the references. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willamette_Meteorite Rob Wesel http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 - Original Message - From: E.P. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen meteorite for sale? Hi Pete, all - If I remember correctly, the meteorite was considered a sacred relic by the local people, but the European settlers hacked off pieces, and then the bulk of it was hauled off by wagon and sold. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com __ __ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ __ Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Pete, all - If I remember correctly, the meteorite was considered a sacred relic by the local people, but the European settlers hacked off pieces, and then the bulk of it was hauled off by wagon and sold. E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas --- Pete Pete [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why would you suggest that this meteorite for sale is stolen?? Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:31:13 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Stolen meteorite for sale? Hi all - Was that 28 kg Williamette at auction a piece of the infamous meteorite in the Museum of Natural History in New York? E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmkt=en-us Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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I'm trying to read between the lines hear and figure out how E.P.'s statement suggests that a piece of the Williamette meteorite (available at auction soon) makes it stolen property. Could it be that he's trying to revive the issue that the meteorite originally belonged to the local (native) people because they were the REAL landowners? If that is the case, then everything between Manhattan Island and San Diego belongs to the native American Indians. Or, did they displace some other civilizations after they walked across the Bering Strait? Who really owns anything? Whoever the courts decide it belongs to, don't you think? Best, John Gwilliam At 08:58 AM 9/19/2007, E.P. Grondine wrote: Hi Pete, all - If I remember correctly, the meteorite was considered a sacred relic by the local people, but the European settlers hacked off pieces, and then the bulk of it was hauled off by wagon and sold. E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas --- Pete Pete [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why would you suggest that this meteorite for sale is stolen?? Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:31:13 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Stolen meteorite for sale? Hi all - Was that 28 kg Williamette at auction a piece of the infamous meteorite in the Museum of Natural History in New York? E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmkt=en-us Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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That is quite a condensed version of a very interesting story. Good place to start and follow the references. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willamette_Meteorite Rob Wesel http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 - Original Message - From: E.P. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen meteorite for sale? Hi Pete, all - If I remember correctly, the meteorite was considered a sacred relic by the local people, but the European settlers hacked off pieces, and then the bulk of it was hauled off by wagon and sold. E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas --- Pete Pete [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why would you suggest that this meteorite for sale is stolen?? Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:31:13 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Stolen meteorite for sale? Hi all - Was that 28 kg Williamette at auction a piece of the infamous meteorite in the Museum of Natural History in New York? E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmkt=en-us Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Stolen meteorite for sale?
Hi all - Was that 28 kg Williamette at auction a piece of the infamous meteorite in the Museum of Natural History in New York? E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Why would you suggest that this meteorite for sale is stolen?? Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:31:13 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Stolen meteorite for sale? Hi all - Was that 28 kg Williamette at auction a piece of the infamous meteorite in the Museum of Natural History in New York? E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmkt=en-us __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Stolen Meteorite
valued at $1 million by US collectors in 1996, then simply kept in an office cabinet of professional investigators? (not that this title necessarily gives them credibility for anything) ...I smell a rat! Cheers, Pete http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,20669940-5006009,00.html Rocked by $1m space theft By Andre Khoury October 30, 2006 12:00 A METEORITE worth a million dollars, once at the centre of an ownership dispute, has been stolen from a security business. The space rock, known as the Binya Meteorite, was taken from a cabinet in the office of professional investigators Austrace in Newcastle on Sunday night. The theft of the 11kg space debris follows a nasty dispute between its original owners and the Insolvency and Trustee Service of Australia before it was sold to a private collector in 2004. The meteorite, which is believed to have come from an asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter, was discovered in 1981 by Terry and Trish Myers when it landed on their wheat farm at Binya, in southwest NSW. The meteorite, valued at $1 million by US collectors in 1996, was used as a doorstop before its value was discovered. Mr and Mr Myers, who now live at Hervey Bay in Queensland, were shocked when The Daily Telegraph told them about the theft of the rock, which they claim was unfairly seized by ITSA. Oh my God,'' Mrs Myers said. You've just dropped a bomb. It was our girls' heritage.'' Overseas experts say the meteorite is coarse octathendrite from a cluster of iron meteorites, which are among the rarest known. Senior-Constable Tony Tamplin said several internal doors at Austrace had been forced open and rooms ransacked. _ Experience Live Search from your PC or mobile device today. http://www.live.com/?mkt=en-ca __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 22:18:51 -0500, you wrote: valued at $1 million by US collectors in 1996, then simply kept in an office cabinet of professional investigators? (not that this title necessarily gives them credibility for anything) snip The space rock, known as the Binya Meteorite, was taken from a cabinet in the office of professional investigators Austrace in Newcastle on Sunday night. The theft of the 11kg space debris follows a nasty dispute between its original owners and the Insolvency and Trustee Service of Australia before it was sold to a private collector in 2004. So how much did it sell for, in the 2004 auction? (I'm betting that it wasn't a mil). http://www.lexsimshauser.com.au/Meteorite/Meteorite.htm http://www.lexsimshauser.com.au/Meteorite/images_large/rock-(hires).jpg __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Stolen meteorite alert!!!!
A large meteorite has been stolen from Campo del Cielo (Chaco Province, Argentina) of Approx 5-6 tons (estimated). It has 1.84 cm in length (more than 5,5 feets). The meteorite, called Tañigo II or Santiago del Estero is the second mass in Campo del Cielo after de Chaco meteorite (37.200 kg). The piece was photgraphed, and well documented. You can see it at the following sites: http://www.chaco.com.ar/html/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=871 http://www.diarionorte.com/2003/mayo/030504/interior.htm The authorities of Argentina offer a reward for any information. This large meteorite is protected by laws. If anyone offers this meteorite for sale, or somebody know where the specimens is, please inform to: Dr. Carlos Clauter Judge of the cause Las Heras 45 (3720) Charata, Chaco, Argentina Telefax ++543731 420004 Diario Norte (newspaper) Pellegrino 144 (3500) Resistencia, Chaco, Argentina Tel ++543722 426047 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Director) Fiscalía de Estado Dr. Osvaldo José Simoni [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telefax (03722) 42-4727 44-8013 (Int. 8013) Gobernador de la Pcia. del Chaco Sr. Roy Nikisch Tel.: 054 (03722) 432786 - 448002 (Int. 8002 2619) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ministerio de Relaciones Internacionales y Comercio Exterior Arq. Alejandro Luis Pajor Tel.:(03722) 44-8096 44-8877 - Fax 44-3051 Internos: 8096 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Policía de la Pcia. del Chaco (03722) 463105-(Centrex 8532)-Fax: 463103 (Centrex 8530) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ MSN Amor: busca tu ½ naranja http://latam.msn.com/amor/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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According to the cringe-inducingly bad Babelfish translations, this was supposed to have happened around April 2003. Babelfish translations: http://www.chaco.com.ar/html/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=871 PROPRIETOR OFFERS COMPENSATES BY FIRM DATA ON THE ROBBERY OF THE METEORITE OF FIELD OF THE SKY CHARATA (Agency) the proprietor of the field where was the meteorite Taigo II, Vctor Hugo Conradi, offered one compensates that contributes firm information on those who robbed it, in the first days of April. One is the second greatest one found in the zone of Field of the Sky, where a meteorite rain at remote times seeded of extraterrestrial bodies a great strip of the province of Santiago of the Matting and the southwest of Chaco. The removed one, that officially does not have name, would have a weight approximated to the 6,000 kilos. According to Conradi, the precise date of the robbery could have been 9 or 10 of April; and the schedule, between the tardecita and the dawn, because at the moment for entering the vehicles that participated in the sustraccin not they see mud tracks and in the exit apparently the grass had dew and caused that small mud tracks and clear drawings of the tires had left. In a story to Network Television of Charata, it said that a motorcycle, an automobile, a truck would have participated in the fact and possibly a light truck. I know that, to do this, they must have involved several people. In the door of my lot one tracks are seen moto that or it could have acted of bell, and is verified that entered a truck, a car and later a great car the more or medium light truck. The denunciation I made Sunday 13 of April in the police station of Beautiful Field, after when with my lady we were in favor of the place and we realized lack of the meteorite and that in his place they left one identical one me but of cement and disguised his external part, according to commented people to me who know, with shavings similar to the remainders of High the Furnaces of Zapla, very used in the stuffed south of country as in plants of silos, so that it fulfills the same assignment that the debris that we used this way. At a first moment I did not realize and to my lady it called the attention to him that was very smooth and shining; for that reason I lowered to see better . It must stand out that, to accede to the place where it was Taigo II, it is necessary to enter a field seeded of soybean and by a narrow way approximately two kilometers until the exact place where it was deposited. In search of Taigo II It wanted that if some person saw or listened something informs to me, that will be gratificado. My data aim at a truck that would have a chassis more displaced than the normal thing; that is to say, more length of the habitual thing, by the form as it maneuvered in the place. Then, in the dual ones it used radial metallic tires with the drawing of the Good Year metallic; that is to say, of tacos or traction. Although I believe that this people already changed those rubbers, but of all ways always somebody could see. A person said to me that a white truck walked by this zone Thursday 10, although it could not at night give other details me to be. My telephone is 03735-15630429. I believe that the meteorite must be still in the province, because the denunciation was relatively fast and to the third day in which evaded it, although Justice is a little slower of which one wanted, I believe that we are going to recover the piece . In the police one inquired that important new features in the case and that do not exist they are continued making diverse managements in winch of the fact, directed by the judge of instruction of Charata, doctor Carlos Clauter. http://www.diarionorte.com/2003/mayo/030504/interior.htm CHARATA-El meteorite Taigo II, robbed in the middle of April of the 2003 of the field of Vctor Hugo Conradi, in the zone of Beautiful Field would have been found in in Great Buenos Aires in being able of a dealer. One is the second greatest one - it would have a weight approximated to the 6,000 kilos seen in the zone of Field of the Sky, where a meteorite rain at remote times, seeded of celestial bodies a great strip of the province of Santiago of the Matting and the southwest of Chaco. Taigo II would be in being able of a meteorite dealer of the zone of Great Buenos Aires and, according to the information of safe sources, it was prepared to be sold to the outside by extreme several times millionaire. The fact was denounced before the justice of Charata, that would have asked for to its pairs of Buenos Aires its seizure. An integrated commission traveled yesterday to that place, among others, by the proprietor of the meteorite, that maintained a relative optimism as far as its recovery. The same one was sold a North American collector, although it would be sent them in first term to Uruguay. The robbery could have happened
[meteorite-list] STOLEN METEORITE IMAGE
HI ALL! I'M WRITING ONCE AGAIN REMEMBERING ABOUT MY STOLEN METEORITE DURING DENVER SHOW. PLEASE SEE THE IMAGE ON MY SITE: http://www.meteorites21.com/285-2.jpg IF SOME ONE WILL KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT THIS SOMEWHERE, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE. ALL THE BEST. SERGE. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] STOLEN METEORITE!!!
HI ALL JUST FEW MOMENTS, JUST DURING THE DENVER SHOW FROM ME, FROM MY ROOM 291 HOLIDAY INN WAS STOLEN AN EXCELLENT METEORITE DHOFAR 285 THE MAIN MASS POLYMICT EUCRITE THE SAMPLE WAS FINE SHAPE -- REAL MUSEUM SPECIMENT. SURE MOST OF YOU SAW THIS SAMPLE WITH ME FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS. JUST IT WAS TOO EXPENCIVE TO BUY FAST. ANYWAY IT IS A BIG SHAME TO THE STEELER. I HAVE TO ASK ALL IF SOMEBODY WILL SEE THE SAMPLE TO KNOW THAT IT WAS STOLEN AND NOT PAYD! MAY DE I HAVE A CHANCE TO RETURN IT... THANK YOU ALL FOR PAYING ATTENTION HERE. ALL THE BEST. SERGE __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
