Re: [meteorite-list] cleaning Millbillillie ?
Yes. So might msg, tsp, Dmso, and white vinegar. depending on a lot of conditions. Anything with HCL or flourine should be avoided, as well as Sulfuric acid. Steve P.S. But Don't clean them! they are like coins! --- On Sun, 11/2/08, mckinney trammell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: mckinney trammell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] cleaning Millbillillie ? To: Alexander Seidel [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED], tett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 7:14 PM would oxaclic acid work like is does when removing red clay stains form quartz crystals? --- On Sun, 11/2/08, tett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: tett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] cleaning Millbillillie ? To: Alexander Seidel [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 5:10 PM I now have a much deeper appreciation for Millbillillie. I will not attempt cleaning and will reflect on the subtle beauty these meteorites have. Many Thanks! Mike - Original Message - From: Alexander Seidel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tett [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] cleaning Millbillillie ? I agree that there is a special characteristic that would be lost if the red staining were to be removed from a Millbillillie individual. However, it is also great to have meteorites pristine with no terrestrial alteration. The priciest Millbillillies are those that with dark black glassy crusts. No, a meteorite like Millbillillie should be looked at in a much more subtle way! It fell in 1960, and was collected no earlier than 10 years later! Talking about Millbillillie is exciting in many respects, as it e. g. displays different textures on cut slices, but talking about exterior surface, I would always prefer a piece with natural (laterite) patina over a piece which was somehow cleaned (..if this were possible..) or has only got some more or less glossy black crust alone rather than the brownish-reddish surface stains that are so very *typical* for this meteorite, and are part of its character, so to say...! You are right insofar as, when we are talking about may be fresh Eucrites or fresh Howardites, we are looking and longing for fresh glossy black crust in the first place, as will be the case with e. g. the early collected pieces of a historical fall like Stannern, or some rare other finds and falls, but things are a quite a bit different with a fall like Millbillillie, even if it occured as late as 1960, considered a fresh fall Well, nothing but my two (Euro-)Cents, Alex Berlin/Germany __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] cleaning Millbillillie ?
Removing staining may give a meteorite a better visual appearance, but like with a valuable coin will remove valuable information. like age , original chemistry and possibly fusion crust. If you had a proof silver dollar from 1860 would you soak it in oxalic acid to make it look better? Have a great day! Steve Dunklee --- On Mon, 11/3/08, Steve Dunklee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Steve Dunklee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] cleaning Millbillillie ? To: Alexander Seidel [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED], tett [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 11:19 AM Yes. So might msg, tsp, Dmso, and white vinegar. depending on a lot of conditions. Anything with HCL or flourine should be avoided, as well as Sulfuric acid. Steve P.S. But Don't clean them! they are like coins! --- On Sun, 11/2/08, mckinney trammell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: mckinney trammell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] cleaning Millbillillie ? To: Alexander Seidel [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED], tett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 7:14 PM would oxaclic acid work like is does when removing red clay stains form quartz crystals? --- On Sun, 11/2/08, tett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: tett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] cleaning Millbillillie ? To: Alexander Seidel [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 5:10 PM I now have a much deeper appreciation for Millbillillie. I will not attempt cleaning and will reflect on the subtle beauty these meteorites have. Many Thanks! Mike - Original Message - From: Alexander Seidel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tett [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] cleaning Millbillillie ? I agree that there is a special characteristic that would be lost if the red staining were to be removed from a Millbillillie individual. However, it is also great to have meteorites pristine with no terrestrial alteration. The priciest Millbillillies are those that with dark black glassy crusts. No, a meteorite like Millbillillie should be looked at in a much more subtle way! It fell in 1960, and was collected no earlier than 10 years later! Talking about Millbillillie is exciting in many respects, as it e. g. displays different textures on cut slices, but talking about exterior surface, I would always prefer a piece with natural (laterite) patina over a piece which was somehow cleaned (..if this were possible..) or has only got some more or less glossy black crust alone rather than the brownish-reddish surface stains that are so very *typical* for this meteorite, and are part of its character, so to say...! You are right insofar as, when we are talking about may be fresh Eucrites or fresh Howardites, we are looking and longing for fresh glossy black crust in the first place, as will be the case with e. g. the early collected pieces of a historical fall like Stannern, or some rare other finds and falls, but things are a quite a bit different with a fall like Millbillillie, even if it occured as late as 1960, considered a fresh fall Well, nothing but my two (Euro-)Cents, Alex Berlin/Germany __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Cleaning Millbillillie (AD)
..Or you can just purchase one that doesn't require any cleaning ; ) I have a lovely 212g individual complete with regmaglyps, glossy black fusion crust, and just enough staining, which adds to it's aesthetic qualities. $3180, OBO. Looking to make a quick sale on this one. Please email for photos if interested. Paypal accepted for those who wish to go that route. Thanks for looking folks! Cheers, Ryan Pawelski __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Cleaning Millbillillie (AD)
just bought millb. on ebay for $5/g (red clay inc.). --- On Mon, 11/3/08, RJP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: RJP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Cleaning Millbillillie (AD) To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 1:31 PM ..Or you can just purchase one that doesn't require any cleaning ; ) I have a lovely 212g individual complete with regmaglyps, glossy black fusion crust, and just enough staining, which adds to it's aesthetic qualities. $3180, OBO. Looking to make a quick sale on this one. Please email for photos if interested. Paypal accepted for those who wish to go that route. Thanks for looking folks! Cheers, Ryan Pawelski __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Cleaning Millbillillie (AD)
Yeah.. I'm sure you did. Was it a broken weathered fragment or just a chunk of red clay? And I don't appreciate you responding to my AD through the list. Everyone knows that you obviously purchased a far lesser grade of meteorite than the one I have to offer. $5 per gram? C'mon now. Honestly. Ryan __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] cleaning Millbillillie ?
Steve#3 wrote: [not] Anything with HCL or flourine Harlan wrote: oxaclic acid work like is does when removing red clay stains form quartz crystals? Hi Friends, Just a few thoughts: Oxalic acid will probably clean some meteoritical residue off any quartz crystals you can find in meteorites. Oxaclic[sic] acid only gives a good vista with Meteorites for Windows. Flourine[sic], milk of magnesia and monocynical pigeonite eggs [cum grano salis] are useful in a pinch in the field for starving meteorite hunters trying to eke out a living off the land, so on this I agree with Steve#3.* Are quartz crystals porous in aqueous solutions? Are stony meteorites? Are quartz crystals uniform in composition? Are stony meteorites? Is silicon dioxide (=glass, quartz, etc.) inert to these reagents? Are stony meteorites? I agree it would be nice to be an alchemist, but I think this is far more profound of a science than these posts would suggest, without an academic evaluation of a broad range of chemistry and mineralization processes. I say this because I do not like many cleaning techniques I've seen used on metorites just to get some skin-deep aesthetics for a quick sale. In fact, some cleaning procedures are based on removing visually contaminated meteorite material and falsely refinishing the surface and representing it as something it is not (losing information on flight markings, etc, which has already been suggested). There are many degrees of misrepresentation and negligence by gurus in cleaning meteorites for personal use, but then passing them along to clueless enthusiastic buyers. Hopefully this is recognized for what it is, just as fake meteorite claims, or clarified with asociated label and hopefully a lower price. Sic transit gloria astra, but great health anyways Doug PS Ponce de Leon is reputed to have washed his meteorites in Boinca Fountain off Florida, which restored their youthful appearance. Other cynics believe there is no such thing as a fountain of youth, and we should just appreciate all stages of life as equally precious, especially when getting older as challenges become more and more impressive... *They are good ingredients for meteorite waffles and not good candidates for the next craze poisoning the eBay meteorite quarry. Steve#3's example of my 1860 proof dollar coin that was buried and impregnated in the outback for 30 years doesn't seem to remind me either of stony meteorites or even of a proof coin that has anything suggestive of having been struck on proof dies - so here I disagree with this off-base analogy. Way too many apples to oranges comparisons here (quartz crystals, etc.). Not saying that some insights on the science with merit wouldn't be very interesting, just, so far none have been offered. -Original Message- From: Steve Dunklee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Alexander Seidel [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; tett [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 11:19 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] cleaning Millbillillie ? Yes. So might msg, tsp, Dmso, and white vinegar. depending on a lot of conditions. Anything with HCL or flourine should be avoided, as well as Sulfuric acid. Steve P.S. But Don't clean them! they are like coins! --- On Sun, 11/2/08, mckinney trammell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: mckinney trammell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] cleaning Millbillillie ? To: Alexander Seidel [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED], tett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 7:14 PM would oxaclic acid work like is does when removing red clay stains form quartz crystals? --- On Sun, 11/2/08, tett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: tett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] cleaning Millbillillie ? To: Alexander Seidel [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 5:10 PM I now have a much deeper appreciation for Millbillillie. I will not attempt cleaning and will reflect on the subtle beauty these meteorites have. Many Thanks! Mike - Original Message - From: Alexander Seidel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tett [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] cleaning Millbillillie ? I agree that there is a special characteristic that would be lost if the red staining were to be removed from a Millbillillie individual. However, it is also great to have meteorites pristine with no terrestrial alteration. The priciest Millbillillies are those that with dark black glassy crusts. No, a meteorite like Millbillillie should be looked at in a much more subtle way! It fell in 1960, and was collected no earlier than 10 years later! Talking about Millbillillie is exciting
Re: [meteorite-list] cleaning Millbillillie ?
I agree that there is a special characteristic that would be lost if the red staining were to be removed from a Millbillillie individual. However, it is also great to have meteorites pristine with no terrestrial alteration. The priciest Millbillillies are those that with dark black glassy crusts. No, a meteorite like Millbillillie should be looked at in a much more subtle way! It fell in 1960, and was collected no earlier than 10 years later! Talking about Millbillillie is exciting in many respects, as it e. g. displays different textures on cut slices, but talking about exterior surface, I would always prefer a piece with natural (laterite) patina over a piece which was somehow cleaned (..if this were possible..) or has only got some more or less glossy black crust alone rather than the brownish-reddish surface stains that are so very *typical* for this meteorite, and are part of its character, so to say...! You are right insofar as, when we are talking about may be fresh Eucrites or fresh Howardites, we are looking and longing for fresh glossy black crust in the first place, as will be the case with e. g. the early collected pieces of a historical fall like Stannern, or some rare other finds and falls, but things are a quite a bit different with a fall like Millbillillie, even if it occured as late as 1960, considered a fresh fall Well, nothing but my two (Euro-)Cents, Alex Berlin/Germany __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] cleaning Millbillillie ?
Hello Alex, I completely agree with you. To continue with Australia'a laterite-red: would anyone like to clean this Henbury iron on Dr. Svend Buhl's website? http://www.niger-meteorite-recon.de/img_inventar/Meteorit%20Henbury.jpg Can't imagine. In any case, I wouldn't. Its time on the surface of our planet is definitely part of a meteorite's destiny. My best, Matthias - Original Message - From: Alexander Seidel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tett [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 5:24 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] cleaning Millbillillie ? I agree that there is a special characteristic that would be lost if the red staining were to be removed from a Millbillillie individual. However, it is also great to have meteorites pristine with no terrestrial alteration. The priciest Millbillillies are those that with dark black glassy crusts. No, a meteorite like Millbillillie should be looked at in a much more subtle way! It fell in 1960, and was collected no earlier than 10 years later! Talking about Millbillillie is exciting in many respects, as it e. g. displays different textures on cut slices, but talking about exterior surface, I would always prefer a piece with natural (laterite) patina over a piece which was somehow cleaned (..if this were possible..) or has only got some more or less glossy black crust alone rather than the brownish-reddish surface stains that are so very *typical* for this meteorite, and are part of its character, so to say...! You are right insofar as, when we are talking about may be fresh Eucrites or fresh Howardites, we are looking and longing for fresh glossy black crust in the first place, as will be the case with e. g. the early collected pieces of a historical fall like Stannern, or some rare other finds and falls, but things are a quite a bit different with a fall like Millbillillie, even if it occured as late as 1960, considered a fresh fall Well, nothing but my two (Euro-)Cents, Alex Berlin/Germany __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] cleaning Millbillillie ?
I now have a much deeper appreciation for Millbillillie. I will not attempt cleaning and will reflect on the subtle beauty these meteorites have. Many Thanks! Mike - Original Message - From: Alexander Seidel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tett [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] cleaning Millbillillie ? I agree that there is a special characteristic that would be lost if the red staining were to be removed from a Millbillillie individual. However, it is also great to have meteorites pristine with no terrestrial alteration. The priciest Millbillillies are those that with dark black glassy crusts. No, a meteorite like Millbillillie should be looked at in a much more subtle way! It fell in 1960, and was collected no earlier than 10 years later! Talking about Millbillillie is exciting in many respects, as it e. g. displays different textures on cut slices, but talking about exterior surface, I would always prefer a piece with natural (laterite) patina over a piece which was somehow cleaned (..if this were possible..) or has only got some more or less glossy black crust alone rather than the brownish-reddish surface stains that are so very *typical* for this meteorite, and are part of its character, so to say...! You are right insofar as, when we are talking about may be fresh Eucrites or fresh Howardites, we are looking and longing for fresh glossy black crust in the first place, as will be the case with e. g. the early collected pieces of a historical fall like Stannern, or some rare other finds and falls, but things are a quite a bit different with a fall like Millbillillie, even if it occured as late as 1960, considered a fresh fall Well, nothing but my two (Euro-)Cents, Alex Berlin/Germany __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] cleaning Millbillillie ?
would oxaclic acid work like is does when removing red clay stains form quartz crystals? --- On Sun, 11/2/08, tett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: tett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] cleaning Millbillillie ? To: Alexander Seidel [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 5:10 PM I now have a much deeper appreciation for Millbillillie. I will not attempt cleaning and will reflect on the subtle beauty these meteorites have. Many Thanks! Mike - Original Message - From: Alexander Seidel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tett [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] cleaning Millbillillie ? I agree that there is a special characteristic that would be lost if the red staining were to be removed from a Millbillillie individual. However, it is also great to have meteorites pristine with no terrestrial alteration. The priciest Millbillillies are those that with dark black glassy crusts. No, a meteorite like Millbillillie should be looked at in a much more subtle way! It fell in 1960, and was collected no earlier than 10 years later! Talking about Millbillillie is exciting in many respects, as it e. g. displays different textures on cut slices, but talking about exterior surface, I would always prefer a piece with natural (laterite) patina over a piece which was somehow cleaned (..if this were possible..) or has only got some more or less glossy black crust alone rather than the brownish-reddish surface stains that are so very *typical* for this meteorite, and are part of its character, so to say...! You are right insofar as, when we are talking about may be fresh Eucrites or fresh Howardites, we are looking and longing for fresh glossy black crust in the first place, as will be the case with e. g. the early collected pieces of a historical fall like Stannern, or some rare other finds and falls, but things are a quite a bit different with a fall like Millbillillie, even if it occured as late as 1960, considered a fresh fall Well, nothing but my two (Euro-)Cents, Alex Berlin/Germany __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] cleaning Millbillillie ?
Hi tett, I don't know how to remove that red staining safely, but I would not want to do it to my Millbillillie because the red stain is a uniquely identifying feature of Millbillillie's. When you or anyone sees the red stain on that eucrite, it's obviously a Millbillillie. If you remove the staining, then there is no way to know where it fell. Just my opinion. Regards, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tett Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 6:58 PM To: meteorite list Subject: [meteorite-list] cleaning Millbillillie ? List, Happy Halloween! Wondering if anyone has successfully cleaned Millibillillie indivduals. Can one remove some of the red staining to reveal the black glassy fusion crust without damaging that crust? Cheers, tett __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] cleaning Millbillillie ?
Bob, I agree that there is a special characteristic that would be lost if the red staining were to be removed from a Millbillillie individual. However, it is also great to have meteorites pristine with no terrestrial alteration. The priciest Millbillillies are those that with dark black glassy crusts. Best to have lots of these, some with the unique red staining and some with a pristine black crust. Cheers! tett - Original Message - From: Bob Loeffler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'meteorite list' meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] cleaning Millbillillie ? Hi tett, I don't know how to remove that red staining safely, but I would not want to do it to my Millbillillie because the red stain is a uniquely identifying feature of Millbillillie's. When you or anyone sees the red stain on that eucrite, it's obviously a Millbillillie. If you remove the staining, then there is no way to know where it fell. Just my opinion. Regards, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tett Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 6:58 PM To: meteorite list Subject: [meteorite-list] cleaning Millbillillie ? List, Happy Halloween! Wondering if anyone has successfully cleaned Millibillillie indivduals. Can one remove some of the red staining to reveal the black glassy fusion crust without damaging that crust? Cheers, tett __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] cleaning Millbillillie ?
List, Happy Halloween! Wondering if anyone has successfully cleaned Millibillillie indivduals. Can one remove some of the red staining to reveal the black glassy fusion crust without damaging that crust? Cheers, tett __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list