Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Puzzle

2004-01-15 Thread David Freeman
Dear Sonny;
Congratulation on having a puzzle, for gosh sakes don't sell off parts 
of it...unless it it to a valued friend so you can compare pieces with 
at your annual Tucson  Show reunion.

I personally wouldn't glue it, would ruin the puzzle effect. If you want 
a whole gold basin, which would be the result of gluing, why not just 
buy a whole gold basin?

Save the glue for  repairing accidents, not puzzles.. But, do keep the 
family together...sort of like selling one's reference books and then 
begging answers from ones friends :-\
Best wishes,
Dave F.

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Hi,

I recently bought a Gold basin meteorite puzzle. Should this be put 
back together with a permanent glue or is there somthing else to use . 
It would be nice to put back together, but once it's glued thats it.
Thanks Sonny




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RE: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Puzzle

2004-01-15 Thread mark ford

Sonny,

 Maybe you could  glue some of it together but put plastic or wood
spacers on some of the pieces so that they are  held say half an inch
from each other so that the rock looks 'exploded'  ( so then you can see
inside too, and still get an idea of the original shape. I have seen
this done with fossils and similar.

Look here to see what I mean :

http://www.uke.uni-hamburg.de/zentren/experimentelle_medizin/informatik/
vm3dn/bs_exploded.html


Just a thought?

Mark


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Hi,

I recently bought a Gold basin meteorite puzzle. Should this be put back
together with a permanent glue or is there somthing else to use . It
would be nice to put back together, but once it's glued thats it.
Thanks Sonny




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RE: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Puzzle

2004-01-15 Thread M Taliento

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Hi,

I recently bought a Gold basin meteorite puzzle. Should this be put back
together with a permanent glue or is there somthing else to use . It
would be nice to put back together, but once it's glued thats it.
Thanks Sonny


This is just the personal opinion of a novice but if I were fortunate
enough to own a meteorite puzzle I think I'd display all the parts in a
single suitably sized tray of sand or something similar.  Just seeing it
like that would invite me or others to put it back together again over
and over.  It would certainly be the centerpiece of MY modest collection..Mike


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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Puzzle

2004-01-15 Thread Tom aka James Knudson
OR, Maybe glue small pieces of Velcro on the broken surfaces and you can
have the best of both worlds?
Thanks, Tom
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 Hi,
 
 I recently bought a Gold basin meteorite puzzle. Should this be put back
 together with a permanent glue or is there somthing else to use . It
 would be nice to put back together, but once it's glued thats it.
 Thanks Sonny
 

 This is just the personal opinion of a novice but if I were fortunate
 enough to own a meteorite puzzle I think I'd display all the parts in a
 single suitably sized tray of sand or something similar.  Just seeing it
 like that would invite me or others to put it back together again over
 and over.  It would certainly be the centerpiece of MY modest
collection..Mike


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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Puzzle

2004-01-15 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Hello Sonny and list,  Sonny wondered "I recently bought a Gold basin meteorite puzzle. Should this be put back together with a permanent glue or is there somthing else to use . It would be nice to put back together, but once it's glued thats it."  You could always remove the glue later if wanted, however, as a collector of meteorite puzzles I prefer them unglued. Iown maybe 20 meteorite puzzles, most of them Gold Basin, my favorite being a Bob Verish and team found 800g Nevada stone. The only bad thingis due to their nature, none of my puzzle meteorites are displayed. I know several other list members have a puzzle meteorite or two, so perhaps if there is interest(?), I will build a puzzle meteorite gallery on my website for everyone to share photos of puzzle meteorites in their collection.  I have a small meteorite puzzle webpage but could expand it quite a bit. http://www.meteoritearticles.com/goldbasinpuzzle.html  Most of the meteorite puzzles separated after impact and through the process of weathering, broke apart and moved away from each other. One has to wonder why in Gold Basin puzzles are quite common.  Puzzled, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com


RE: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Puzzle

2004-01-15 Thread Howard Wu
Is there a way that you could magnetize the pieces enough to stick together? our use little magnets inbetween the pieces.

Howard Wumark ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sonny,Maybe you could glue some of it together but put plastic or woodspacers on some of the pieces so that they are held say half an inchfrom each other so that the rock looks 'exploded' ( so then you can seeinside too, and still get an idea of the original shape. I have seenthis done with fossils and similar.Look here to see what I mean :http://www.uke.uni-hamburg.de/zentren/experimentelle_medizin/informatik/vm3dn/bs_exploded.htmlJust a thought?Mark-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 January 2004 16:52To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite PuzzleHi,I recently bought a Gold basin meteorite puzzle. Should this be put backtogether with a permanent glue or is there somthing else to use .
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Puzzle

2004-01-15 Thread MexicoDoug
Sonny, you are one fortunate person.  It really is a puzzle in the true sense of the word, so I hope you never lose or damage any of the pieces ... 

You have a lot of nice suggestions, I just felt the impulse to add my 2 centavos to the mix.  Personally, I would be concerned with all the handling the puzzle might get, and also the extra care and worry one might have depending on who was handling it ... kids, me, etc.

So I would just have some fun making a reproduction of each individual piece.  There must be some real experts on the list to do that.  I would probably put them carefully in warmed shrink wrap (Saran), maybe carefully gently and vigilently warming afterwards to release tension, coat it in Turtle Wax and let dry, and then buy some plaster at the hardware store, use it moderately difficient in water, in a slick container, set it half way buried, then lay another level of saran or wax paper girdling the precious original's equator, and build up with plaster to make the top mold, applying enough pressure.  Then I'd remove the original from the mold, and if all went well, paint the inside of the plaster mold with a sealant that can be waxed, an use clay or portland cement to make a copy.  Then I'd be very proud of my puzzle cast from extraterrestrial material and everyone could play with the puzzle as much as they wanted to, and the original could be held for special handling and displayed in a sandbox, etc.

If the meteorite could be magnitized, or put on a strong magnetic base (sounds like these are not the right things to do, but an idea to ponder anyway for a 3-D magnetic puzzle copy, for example), that would be a real conversation piece and you wouldn't even need velcro...

Reassembling it, even in a very attractive exploded view like the example, which I would definitely do with the second one if I had two original puzzles, would be restrictive for my tastes on my only piece, since I'd want to study and enjoy it's inside conveniently.  Actually, if it weren't my meteorite to study as long as I liked, I might even like to see it that way most.

There are probably experts here who will laugh at my thoughts on making the puzzle, if there would be a better way I'd like to be let in on it.  I just hope that it is not too risky and of course it is just as easy to practice on a piece of concrete and asphalt first to hone in on the best course for the original.

Hope this helps.  And if you become proficient and start selling copies, a signed puzzle for me would be great on an otherwise uneventful day:)

Saludos, Doug
Mexico


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Hi,

I recently bought a Gold basin meteorite puzzle. Should this be put back together with a permanent glue or is there somthing else to use . It would be nice to put back together, but once it's glued thats it.
Thanks Sonny 



Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Puzzle

2004-01-15 Thread Michel Franco
If you wish to be able to de-glue them later, you can use the wax which is
used for thin sections; You will find waxes that melt at 60 °C .

Put your meteorites in an owen at 65 ° C.  When they are in hot in mass,
Put wax fragments between pieces and make it tight. When cooled down, you
will have  anice meteorite. Most waxes solves in Alcohol or similar non
damageable liquid for meteorites.  Wax seller will give you the name of the
right liquid.
65 ° C will not affect you ordinary meteorites.

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 OR, Maybe glue small pieces of Velcro on the broken surfaces and you can
 have the best of both worlds?
 Thanks, Tom
 Peregrineflier 
 IMCA 6168

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  Hi,
  
  I recently bought a Gold basin meteorite puzzle. Should this be put
back
  together with a permanent glue or is there somthing else to use . It
  would be nice to put back together, but once it's glued thats it.
  Thanks Sonny
  
 
  This is just the personal opinion of a novice but if I were fortunate
  enough to own a meteorite puzzle I think I'd display all the parts in a
  single suitably sized tray of sand or something similar.  Just seeing it
  like that would invite me or others to put it back together again over
  and over.  It would certainly be the centerpiece of MY modest
 collection..Mike
 
 
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RE: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Puzzle

2004-01-15 Thread Rafael B. Torres
Hahahah I just checked Marck Bostick's page of a meteorite puzzle and I know 
now what is exactly a meteorite puzzle, I thought it was an ordinary 
picture, Im sorry, hahahahahaha well at least my point is the same...matter 
of opinions.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Puzzle

2004-01-15 Thread Rafael B. Torres
Im not an expert in this subject, but here in my city there is a shop 
dedicated to puzzles and the owner is a great collector of puzzles and all 
sutff like that and when you enter to his stores you can see hug puzzles 
glued together but very carefully, they are truly art work!, they look 
beautiful glued together and set in a frame with a nice glass or a 
protective stuff, it looks just great to me, cuz you can see always thats 
its a puzzle.

I guess its just a matter of opinons, some like them glued and some intact, 
is there a way you can get two of them???..that way you keep one original 
and youcan glue another to display, heheh I think that would be the best 
thing to do, but can you get two?

2001 Space Collection
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