Re: [meteorite-list] Do BLM regulations apply to USFS land?
Hi Mark, No. Each district has it's own policies. USFS will have it's own policies. I imagine, with the BLM, these new GUIDELINES will be included in there Land Use Plans for various areas of responsibilities. Cheers! Jim On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Mark Bowling mina...@yahoo.com wrote: The policy states public lands - does this include National Forests? The BLM handles all mining claims on USFS, so I'm guessing the meteorite rules apply to USFS lands as well (?). Thanks, Mark Bowling Vail, AZ From: Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 10:47 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Confirmed September 2012 BLM Regulations. Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 10:48:27 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Subject: Fw: Meteorite Instructional Memo Hi All, In the process of planning new collecting trips in Arizona, Utah and Nevada, I confirmed with BLM the latest regulations concerning the collection of meteorites on Federal Land. (Private property and State owned land are subject to different law and regulations.). The attached message has a link to the current, nationally implimented, Federal regulations sent to me by Dan Erbes, Nevada Lands Manager, Carson City, Nevada - BLM. Metal detectors and magnets are an allowable device for aid in the casual collecting of meteorites. A limit of ten pounds PER PERSON annually. I was told that if you find a thirty pound individual, or individuals, just make sure you have three people involved. Permits are available for scientific collection and commercial activities. Amendments have already been discussed, but not approved, to take care of the obvious unworkability of some aspects of the commercial permit regs, especailly the fee based on the estimated value of the land to be hunted. http://www.blm.gov/wo/st/en/info/regulations/Instruction_Memos_and_Bulletins/national_instruction/2012/IM_2012-182.html Good hunting, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com/ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Jim Wooddell jimwoodd...@gmail.com 928-247-2675 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Do BLM regulations apply to USFS land?
I don't think the USFS allows for such activity in my area, so I was hoping that the BLM rules would open things a bit (at least in forest land that is recreation friendly). I will stick to BLM, Private land and sneak onto ranches in Mexico (turn about is fair play). ;-) Thanks Jim, see you soon. Mark From: Jim Wooddell jimwoodd...@gmail.com To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, February 8, 2013 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Do BLM regulations apply to USFS land? Hi Mark, No. Each district has it's own policies. USFS will have it's own policies. I imagine, with the BLM, these new GUIDELINES will be included in there Land Use Plans for various areas of responsibilities. Cheers! Jim On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Mark Bowling mina...@yahoo.com wrote: The policy states public lands - does this include National Forests? The BLM handles all mining claims on USFS, so I'm guessing the meteorite rules apply to USFS lands as well (?). Thanks, Mark Bowling Vail, AZ From: Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 10:47 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Confirmed September 2012 BLM Regulations. Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 10:48:27 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Subject: Fw: Meteorite Instructional Memo Hi All, In the process of planning new collecting trips in Arizona, Utah and Nevada, I confirmed with BLM the latest regulations concerning the collection of meteorites on Federal Land. (Private property and State owned land are subject to different law and regulations.). The attached message has a link to the current, nationally implimented, Federal regulations sent to me by Dan Erbes, Nevada Lands Manager, Carson City, Nevada - BLM. Metal detectors and magnets are an allowable device for aid in the casual collecting of meteorites. A limit of ten pounds PER PERSON annually. I was told that if you find a thirty pound individual, or individuals, just make sure you have three people involved. Permits are available for scientific collection and commercial activities. Amendments have already been discussed, but not approved, to take care of the obvious unworkability of some aspects of the commercial permit regs, especailly the fee based on the estimated value of the land to be hunted. http://www.blm.gov/wo/st/en/info/regulations/Instruction_Memos_and_Bulletins/national_instruction/2012/IM_2012-182.html Good hunting, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com/ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com/ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Jim Wooddell jimwoodd...@gmail.com 928-247-2675 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com/ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Do BLM regulations apply to USFS land?
Hello, Gang! Just a quick note to let folks know that each BLM districts have Resource Advisory Councils. Usually each district has a 10 member panel. These members are selected by the district field office from locals that send in an application for nomination, to a post that will serve as an advisor, to the BLM for a term of 3 years. If someone wants to have a say-so as to what happens in his or her district, might look at applying for one of these positions. You, also, can look at who is serving as an advisor in your district and when their term ends. For me in Northwest New Mexico, I went to www.blm.gov/nm/racs Our office has 3 positions opening soon. In any case one can submit an application or bend an ear of one of your district members. Hope everyone is fever free and having a Great time in Tucson! Happy B-Day Geoff and Steve!!! Dennis In NWNM Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 12:25:15 -0700 From: jimwoodd...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Do BLM regulations apply to USFS land? Hi Mark, No. Each district has it's own policies. USFS will have it's own policies. I imagine, with the BLM, these new GUIDELINES will be included in there Land Use Plans for various areas of responsibilities. Cheers! Jim On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Mark Bowling mina...@yahoo.com wrote: The policy states public lands - does this include National Forests? The BLM handles all mining claims on USFS, so I'm guessing the meteorite rules apply to USFS lands as well (?). Thanks, Mark Bowling Vail, AZ From: Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 10:47 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Confirmed September 2012 BLM Regulations. Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 10:48:27 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Subject: Fw: Meteorite Instructional Memo Hi All, In the process of planning new collecting trips in Arizona, Utah and Nevada, I confirmed with BLM the latest regulations concerning the collection of meteorites on Federal Land. (Private property and State owned land are subject to different law and regulations.). The attached message has a link to the current, nationally implimented, Federal regulations sent to me by Dan Erbes, Nevada Lands Manager, Carson City, Nevada - BLM. Metal detectors and magnets are an allowable device for aid in the casual collecting of meteorites. A limit of ten pounds PER PERSON annually. I was told that if you find a thirty pound individual, or individuals, just make sure you have three people involved. Permits are available for scientific collection and commercial activities. Amendments have already been discussed, but not approved, to take care of the obvious unworkability of some aspects of the commercial permit regs, especailly the fee based on the estimated value of the land to be hunted. http://www.blm.gov/wo/st/en/info/regulations/Instruction_Memos_and_Bulletins/national_instruction/2012/IM_2012-182.html Good hunting, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com/ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Jim Wooddell jimwoodd...@gmail.com 928-247-2675 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Do BLM regulations apply to USFS land?
That is very interesting info - thanks Dennis! Mark - Original Message - From: Dennis Miller astror...@hotmail.com To: Jim Wooddell jimwoodd...@gmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Friday, February 8, 2013 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Do BLM regulations apply to USFS land? Hello, Gang! Just a quick note to let folks know that each BLM districts have Resource Advisory Councils. Usually each district has a 10 member panel. These members are selected by the district field office from locals that send in an application for nomination, to a post that will serve as an advisor, to the BLM for a term of 3 years. If someone wants to have a say-so as to what happens in his or her district, might look at applying for one of these positions. You, also, can look at who is serving as an advisor in your district and when their term ends. For me in Northwest New Mexico, I went to www.blm.gov/nm/racs Our office has 3 positions opening soon. In any case one can submit an application or bend an ear of one of your district members. Hope everyone is fever free and having a Great time in Tucson! Happy B-Day Geoff and Steve!!! Dennis In NWNM Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 12:25:15 -0700 From: jimwoodd...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Do BLM regulations apply to USFS land? Hi Mark, No. Each district has it's own policies. USFS will have it's own policies. I imagine, with the BLM, these new GUIDELINES will be included in there Land Use Plans for various areas of responsibilities. Cheers! Jim On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Mark Bowling mina...@yahoo.com wrote: The policy states public lands - does this include National Forests? The BLM handles all mining claims on USFS, so I'm guessing the meteorite rules apply to USFS lands as well (?). Thanks, Mark Bowling Vail, AZ From: Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 10:47 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Confirmed September 2012 BLM Regulations. Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 10:48:27 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Subject: Fw: Meteorite Instructional Memo Hi All, In the process of planning new collecting trips in Arizona, Utah and Nevada, I confirmed with BLM the latest regulations concerning the collection of meteorites on Federal Land. (Private property and State owned land are subject to different law and regulations.). The attached message has a link to the current, nationally implimented, Federal regulations sent to me by Dan Erbes, Nevada Lands Manager, Carson City, Nevada - BLM. Metal detectors and magnets are an allowable device for aid in the casual collecting of meteorites. A limit of ten pounds PER PERSON annually. I was told that if you find a thirty pound individual, or individuals, just make sure you have three people involved. Permits are available for scientific collection and commercial activities. Amendments have already been discussed, but not approved, to take care of the obvious unworkability of some aspects of the commercial permit regs, especailly the fee based on the estimated value of the land to be hunted. http://www.blm.gov/wo/st/en/info/regulations/Instruction_Memos_and_Bulletins/national_instruction/2012/IM_2012-182.html Good hunting, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com/ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Jim Wooddell jimwoodd...@gmail.com 928-247-2675 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com/ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com/ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
