Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal?
He is crazy asking $1,800.00 for a piece of Ourique, a very common H4 which normally sales for $1.00 /gram the last time some was put up on eBay. From: Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com To: Met-List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 9:07 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? I have a feeling that the fraudster from Portugal may be at it again. He is listing under the name nrscc and has some rare items for sale. No provenance, few details, ... Let me know your thoughts so we can stop this if in fact a fraud. http://www.ebay.com/sch/nrscc/m.html Mendy Ouzillou __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal?
Ourique has never sold for $1 gram, unless fake. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:14 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: He is crazy asking $1,800.00 for a piece of Ourique, a very common H4 which normally sales for $1.00 /gram the last time some was put up on eBay. From: Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com To: Met-List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 9:07 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? I have a feeling that the fraudster from Portugal may be at it again. He is listing under the name nrscc and has some rare items for sale. No provenance, few details, ... Let me know your thoughts so we can stop this if in fact a fraud. http://www.ebay.com/sch/nrscc/m.html Mendy Ouzillou __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Blood auctions: 2007 $10.00/gm 2010 $22.75/gm Dennis Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Ourique has never sold for $1 gram, unless fake. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:14 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: He is crazy asking $1,800.00 for a piece of Ourique, a very common H4 which normally sales for $1.00 /gram the last time some was put up on eBay. From: Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com To: Met-List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 9:07 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? I have a feeling that the fraudster from Portugal may be at it again. He is listing under the name nrscc and has some rare items for sale. No provenance, few details, ... Let me know your thoughts so we can stop this if in fact a fraud. http://www.ebay.com/sch/nrscc/m.html Mendy Ouzillou __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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I went to Portugal after the fall, got nearly 10 kg, 99% of what was ever sold, and sold nearly all at $10 gram. Anyone selling at $1 gram is either losing their shirt (easy on eBay) or pulling a scam. You decide which. Adam, stick with alien crap, you are clearly out of the meteorite loop these days. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 8:58 AM, Dennis Miller astror...@hotmail.com wrote: Blood auctions: 2007 $10.00/gm 2010 $22.75/gm Dennis Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Ourique has never sold for $1 gram, unless fake. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:14 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: He is crazy asking $1,800.00 for a piece of Ourique, a very common H4 which normally sales for $1.00 /gram the last time some was put up on eBay. From: Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com To: Met-List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 9:07 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? I have a feeling that the fraudster from Portugal may be at it again. He is listing under the name nrscc and has some rare items for sale. No provenance, few details, ... Let me know your thoughts so we can stop this if in fact a fraud. http://www.ebay.com/sch/nrscc/m.html Mendy Ouzillou __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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I have 2 small part slices of Ourique: $10 - $12 a gram. One has a bit of crust. Do you want them back Michael? Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Dennis Miller astror...@hotmail.com To: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:58 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? Blood auctions: 2007 $10.00/gm 2010 $22.75/gm Dennis Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Ourique has never sold for $1 gram, unless fake. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:14 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: He is crazy asking $1,800.00 for a piece of Ourique, a very common H4 which normally sales for $1.00 /gram the last time some was put up on eBay. From: Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com To: Met-List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 9:07 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? I have a feeling that the fraudster from Portugal may be at it again. He is listing under the name nrscc and has some rare items for sale. No provenance, few details, ... Let me know your thoughts so we can stop this if in fact a fraud. http://www.ebay.com/sch/nrscc/m.html Mendy Ouzillou __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal?
A piece of the alien crap realized the highest price at the Blood auction beating out every meteorite offering. It would have gone higher but most of the people into UFOology were attending a convention in Phoenix Arizona at the same time the auction was going. A lot of people were pretty subdued at the auction until the alien crap was put up for bid. Then the room was full of laughter and became animated.It added a lot to making the social auction fun. As far as meteorites go, I have a multimillion dollar inventory that I am sitting on until the economy gets better or the very limited market thickens. Until them, I will offer a limited amount of meteorites and diversify into much hotter markets like artifacts. Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Dennis Miller astror...@hotmail.com Cc: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com; Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? I went to Portugal after the fall, got nearly 10 kg, 99% of what was ever sold, and sold nearly all at $10 gram. Anyone selling at $1 gram is either losing their shirt (easy on eBay) or pulling a scam. You decide which. Adam, stick with alien crap, you are clearly out of the meteorite loop these days. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 8:58 AM, Dennis Miller astror...@hotmail.com wrote: Blood auctions: 2007 $10.00/gm 2010 $22.75/gm Dennis Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Ourique has never sold for $1 gram, unless fake. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:14 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: He is crazy asking $1,800.00 for a piece of Ourique, a very common H4 which normally sales for $1.00 /gram the last time some was put up on eBay. From: Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com To: Met-List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 9:07 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? I have a feeling that the fraudster from Portugal may be at it again. He is listing under the name nrscc and has some rare items for sale. No provenance, few details, ... Let me know your thoughts so we can stop this if in fact a fraud. http://www.ebay.com/sch/nrscc/m.html Mendy Ouzillou __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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I bought a chunk for $1.12/gram from a reputable dealer on eBay over two years ago according to my notes. Maybe I got a break but he states that 20 kilograms was claimed but there is well over 40 kilograms available. In any case, I do not collect falls partly because there is a lot of fraud and switches going on. Adam - Original Message - From: Dennis Miller astror...@hotmail.com To: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Cc: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com; Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? Blood auctions: 2007 $10.00/gm 2010 $22.75/gm Dennis Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Ourique has never sold for $1 gram, unless fake. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:14 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: He is crazy asking $1,800.00 for a piece of Ourique, a very common H4 which normally sales for $1.00 /gram the last time some was put up on eBay. From: Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com To: Met-List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 9:07 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? I have a feeling that the fraudster from Portugal may be at it again. He is listing under the name nrscc and has some rare items for sale. No provenance, few details, ... Let me know your thoughts so we can stop this if in fact a fraud. http://www.ebay.com/sch/nrscc/m.html Mendy Ouzillou __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal?
I will provide the provenance at the time of sale. Micheal, I will let the seller know that you think he is a scammer even though his reputation is excellent and he considers you a friend. For all I know, you probably provided him with the piece. That is the problem with falls, a few bad apples have ruined it for the rest of us by introducing doubt into the market. The meteorite fall bubble burst a few years ago and non-fall bubble a long time before that. It took me years to unload my North American find inventory, most of which came from TCU and I was lucky to break even. I was barely getting a dollar a gram for the material even though its provenance was spotless. I enjoy meteorites and still contribute to the community any chance I get. If I need some write-offs, I will be sure to flood the market. Best Wishes and Good Luck to all those selling at the Tucson Show. Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? Well there you go, less than 20 kg recovered and thus clearly a fraud. Please identify the scammer for us all. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 9:18 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: I bought a chunk for $1.12/gram from a reputable dealer on eBay over two years ago according to my notes. Maybe I got a break but he states that 20 kilograms was claimed but there is well over 40 kilograms available. In any case, I do not collect falls partly because there is a lot of fraud and switches going on. Adam - Original Message - From: Dennis Miller astror...@hotmail.com To: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Cc: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com; Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? Blood auctions: 2007 $10.00/gm 2010 $22.75/gm Dennis Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Ourique has never sold for $1 gram, unless fake. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:14 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: He is crazy asking $1,800.00 for a piece of Ourique, a very common H4 which normally sales for $1.00 /gram the last time some was put up on eBay. From: Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com To: Met-List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 9:07 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? I have a feeling that the fraudster from Portugal may be at it again. He is listing under the name nrscc and has some rare items for sale. No provenance, few details, ... Let me know your thoughts so we can stop this if in fact a fraud. http://www.ebay.com/sch/nrscc/m.html Mendy Ouzillou __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal?
Well there you go, less than 20 kg recovered and thus clearly a fraud. Please identify the scammer for us all. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 9:18 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: I bought a chunk for $1.12/gram from a reputable dealer on eBay over two years ago according to my notes. Maybe I got a break but he states that 20 kilograms was claimed but there is well over 40 kilograms available. In any case, I do not collect falls partly because there is a lot of fraud and switches going on. Adam - Original Message - From: Dennis Miller astror...@hotmail.com To: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Cc: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com; Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? Blood auctions: 2007 $10.00/gm 2010 $22.75/gm Dennis Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Ourique has never sold for $1 gram, unless fake. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:14 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: He is crazy asking $1,800.00 for a piece of Ourique, a very common H4 which normally sales for $1.00 /gram the last time some was put up on eBay. From: Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com To: Met-List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 9:07 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? I have a feeling that the fraudster from Portugal may be at it again. He is listing under the name nrscc and has some rare items for sale. No provenance, few details, ... Let me know your thoughts so we can stop this if in fact a fraud. http://www.ebay.com/sch/nrscc/m.html Mendy Ouzillou __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal?
Hello All, In all fairness, that Ourique does look ~ok. H-chondrites with similar regolith textures are around, but not common, and those pieces look fresh enough. The Chaves does look a bit funny, but it's also very small. If the seller says the specimen came from Corey, I'd double-check with Corey. If you check the Meteoritical Bulletin page's photos, you'll see at least one piece that was sold by Jorge Gonçalves, and which appears to be an L5 chondrite. I'd be worried, but Corey should know what he sold. Regards, Jason www.fallsandfinds.com On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: I will provide the provenance at the time of sale. Micheal, I will let the seller know that you think he is a scammer even though his reputation is excellent and he considers you a friend. For all I know, you probably provided him with the piece. That is the problem with falls, a few bad apples have ruined it for the rest of us by introducing doubt into the market. The meteorite fall bubble burst a few years ago and non-fall bubble a long time before that. It took me years to unload my North American find inventory, most of which came from TCU and I was lucky to break even. I was barely getting a dollar a gram for the material even though its provenance was spotless. I enjoy meteorites and still contribute to the community any chance I get. If I need some write-offs, I will be sure to flood the market. Best Wishes and Good Luck to all those selling at the Tucson Show. Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? Well there you go, less than 20 kg recovered and thus clearly a fraud. Please identify the scammer for us all. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 9:18 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: I bought a chunk for $1.12/gram from a reputable dealer on eBay over two years ago according to my notes. Maybe I got a break but he states that 20 kilograms was claimed but there is well over 40 kilograms available. In any case, I do not collect falls partly because there is a lot of fraud and switches going on. Adam - Original Message - From: Dennis Miller astror...@hotmail.com To: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Cc: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com; Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? Blood auctions: 2007 $10.00/gm 2010 $22.75/gm Dennis Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Ourique has never sold for $1 gram, unless fake. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:14 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: He is crazy asking $1,800.00 for a piece of Ourique, a very common H4 which normally sales for $1.00 /gram the last time some was put up on eBay. From: Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com To: Met-List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 9:07 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? I have a feeling that the fraudster from Portugal may be at it again. He is listing under the name nrscc and has some rare items for sale. No provenance, few details, ... Let me know your thoughts so we can stop this if in fact a fraud. http://www.ebay.com/sch/nrscc/m.html Mendy Ouzillou __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal?
Hi List. Just sent this Seller asking if any of their items come with a COA + Provenance + ID card and if they guarantee authenticity.. If the Seller says no Provenance, COA or ID card I will pressure them on how they can sell without these important documents. Will keep all of you posted. Cheers Don Merchant - Original Message - From: Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com To: Met-List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 12:07 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? I have a feeling that the fraudster from Portugal may be at it again. He is listing under the name nrscc and has some rare items for sale. No provenance, few details, ... Let me know your thoughts so we can stop this if in fact a fraud. http://www.ebay.com/sch/nrscc/m.html Mendy Ouzillou __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Frank, Can you be more specific as to why you believe they are a legitimate seller? Can you point to specific purchases you have made or report back what their real name is? Mendy Ouzillou From: Frank Salome fsal...@rocketmail.com To: Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com; Met-List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? A legit seller. On Monday, February 10, 2014 9:08 AM, Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com wrote: I have a feeling that the fraudster from Portugal may be at it again. He is listing under the name nrscc and has some rare items for sale. No provenance, few details, ... Let me know your thoughts so we can stop this if in fact a fraud. http://www.ebay.com/sch/nrscc/m.html Mendy Ouzillou __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal?
Hi List. The Seller responded back to me with this about the A Rare Chaves Howardite Meteorite * Hello, I have bought this specimen from Corey Kou, a well know collector of meteorites, i have the provenance card that we gave to me. Best regards nrscc * Cheers Don Merchant IMCA #0960 - Original Message - From: Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com To: Frank Salome fsal...@rocketmail.com; Met-List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? Frank, Can you be more specific as to why you believe they are a legitimate seller? Can you point to specific purchases you have made or report back what their real name is? Mendy Ouzillou From: Frank Salome fsal...@rocketmail.com To: Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com; Met-List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? A legit seller. On Monday, February 10, 2014 9:08 AM, Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com wrote: I have a feeling that the fraudster from Portugal may be at it again. He is listing under the name nrscc and has some rare items for sale. No provenance, few details, ... Let me know your thoughts so we can stop this if in fact a fraud. http://www.ebay.com/sch/nrscc/m.html Mendy Ouzillou __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal?
The brecciation with light colored clasts is consistent with Ourique, but without provenance it is difficult to substantiate. Same for Chaves, there are many NWAs that have similar characteristics. gary On Feb 10, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Don Merchant dmerc...@rochester.rr.com wrote: Hi List. Just sent this Seller asking if any of their items come with a COA + Provenance + ID card and if they guarantee authenticity.. If the Seller says no Provenance, COA or ID card I will pressure them on how they can sell without these important documents. Will keep all of you posted. Cheers Don Merchant - Original Message - From: Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com To: Met-List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 12:07 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? I have a feeling that the fraudster from Portugal may be at it again. He is listing under the name nrscc and has some rare items for sale. No provenance, few details, ... Let me know your thoughts so we can stop this if in fact a fraud. http://www.ebay.com/sch/nrscc/m.html Mendy Ouzillou __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites Inc. PO Box 4175, Hilo, HI 96720 (808) 640-9161 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://www.ebay.com/sch/fujmon/m.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list